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| 00:10.23 | Martix | Openmoko (D) |
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| 00:25.34 | Xqo | hello, how can i remove all files installed by a package? |
| 00:27.37 | Martix | maybe, remove whole package? |
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| 00:31.17 | Xqo | how? |
| 00:31.30 | mick_home | ok, how do i upgrade to the latest stable? (Om_2008.8). I'm connected via usb networking |
| 00:32.38 | Xqo | i installed task-openmoko-games, but it added like 20 shortcuts so i want it gone. opkg remove task-openmoko-games didnt work, neither did opkg remove task-openmoko-games -recursive |
| 00:36.32 | mick_home | shit - i guess i ned to flash it |
| 00:36.36 | mick_home | need* |
| 00:37.00 | Xqo | yep |
| 00:38.42 | Xqo | with dfu-util and all that. dont worry though, you'll know it by hand after the first couple of times. it is not very hard. also: if dfu-util gives you an error, just try again |
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| 01:04.51 | brian__ | for me its ./dfu |
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| 02:26.06 | brian__ | we have all these packages that need mplayer so wheres it at/ |
| 02:27.05 | raster | i ate it |
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| 02:28.22 | brian__ | :) |
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| 03:03.02 | openfree | which file should i edit, when i want to automatic load on kernel module |
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| 03:31.24 | mmontour | openfree: look at /etc/modules and the /etc/modutils/ directory |
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| 03:36.41 | mnagy | hi |
| 03:37.06 | mnagy | how do I enable writing to the NOR flash with the debugging board? |
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| 03:47.56 | mmontour | mnagy: the "Flashing NOR" wiki page has some info. Also see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-May/002710.html |
| 03:49.51 | mnagy | the wiki pages don't seem to have enough info.. but thanks for that email, I'll check it out |
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| 04:26.37 | mnagy | hm, and what file from http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ should I use for flashing NOR? |
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| 04:32.20 | Shlee | mnagy: Why do you want to flash nor? |
| 04:32.44 | mnagy | Shlee: I've been hit by http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1568 |
| 04:40.37 | Slaxxer | wonder how many of those made it through? |
| 04:48.13 | mbuf | anyone has had a recent successful build with MokoMakefile? |
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| 05:45.48 | gargoyle-grin | Hey, all. Is the default root password for 2008.12 still blank? I'm not having any luck ssh-ing via the usb interface, and I'm pretty sure I'm doing it just like I did on 2008.9. |
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| 05:46.46 | balrog-kun | gargoyle-grin: afaik it's not blank.. it acceptas any password (i.e. there's no checking) |
| 05:48.40 | gargoyle-grin | Hmm. "ssh root@192.168.0.202" results in a "no route to host." "ssh root@192.168.0.200" prompts me for a password, but no password I try (including blank) works. |
| 05:48.59 | gargoyle-grin | Hmm. It's starting to sound like a host machine issue, isn't it? |
| 05:49.40 | balrog-kun | gargoyle-grin: "ssh root@192.168.0.200" would log you in to your own pc i think :p |
| 05:50.20 | gargoyle-grin | Not on my network. My net mask is 172.16.255.255 |
| 05:50.45 | balrog-kun | gargoyle-grin: then you will need to set your ip to 192.168.0.200 for usb0 |
| 05:51.51 | gargoyle-grin | Ah. Ok... So on that interface, I'm 192.168.0.200. I gotcha. Yeah. 192.16.0.200 is my machine. |
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| 05:56.17 | gargoyle-grin | Hmm. Not getting a password prompt for 192.168.0.202, though. I did configure the subnet, though. "ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0" |
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| 06:28.16 | balrog-kun | gargoyle-grin: what do you get instead? |
| 06:32.29 | gargoyle-grin | "ssh: connect to host openmoko port 22: No route to host" |
| 06:34.10 | balrog-kun | gargoyle-grin: do you have a terminal on the phone? |
| 06:34.55 | gargoyle-grin | Nope. Can't install it without ssh access either. |
| 06:35.29 | balrog-kun | that sucks |
| 06:35.42 | balrog-kun | earlier version had one by default |
| 06:35.53 | balrog-kun | versions* |
| 06:36.04 | gargoyle-grin | Indeed. There's no Wifi item in settings any more either. 2008.9 had it. If I had that, I wouldn't need to bother with USB networking anyway. |
| 06:36.28 | gargoyle-grin | I could SSH in via the wifi connection. |
| 06:37.14 | gargoyle-grin | Majorly sucks. I finally find a distro which recognizes my SIM card and works as a phone, and I can't do anything else with it. :P |
| 06:37.54 | balrog-kun | are you using the build from the release? |
| 06:38.23 | balrog-kun | if you build yourself, you could probably add a terminal and other stuff to the image |
| 06:39.00 | gargoyle-grin | Yeah, I used the images at http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ |
| 06:39.00 | gargoyle-grin | Hmm. That's true. Haven't had any luck building OM so far, though. |
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| 06:43.31 | gargoyle-grin | Dang. Oh well. I guess I'll fix it tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Good night, and happy new year. :) |
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| 08:38.36 | rooly | whew |
| 08:38.38 | rooly | first base |
| 08:39.06 | rooly | Dave, where yat |
| 08:39.14 | Digital_Pioneer | Is there a way to kill a locked up app? |
| 08:39.31 | rooly | pop into a terminal and killall it |
| 08:39.54 | Digital_Pioneer | That assumes you know the name. |
| 08:40.40 | Digital_Pioneer | What's the app that alerts you when you get an SMS? |
| 08:40.50 | rooly | qpe |
| 08:40.55 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahhh, OK. |
| 08:40.57 | rooly | killall qpe |
| 08:41.17 | rooly | then you'll get an enlightenment error saying the phone server has crashed, just reboot it and you'll be fine |
| 08:41.29 | Digital_Pioneer | Reboot the phone? |
| 08:41.49 | Digital_Pioneer | There's no program named qpe on my system, it seems. |
| 08:41.58 | rooly | no |
| 08:42.00 | Digital_Pioneer | Just did a find / -name qpe with no results. |
| 08:42.09 | rooly | did you do killall qpe? |
| 08:42.19 | rooly | and no, enlightenment will give you an error |
| 08:42.32 | Digital_Pioneer | No, I already restarted X. |
| 08:42.39 | rooly | oh...welll... |
| 08:43.04 | rooly | cat out /usr/share/applications/"dailer".desktop |
| 08:43.17 | rooly | not sure what the dialer's desktop file name is |
| 08:43.29 | Digital_Pioneer | openmoko-dialer |
| 08:43.39 | rooly | oh...what stack are you using |
| 08:43.51 | Digital_Pioneer | Whatever SHR uses. |
| 08:43.57 | rooly | oic |
| 08:44.12 | rooly | then killall openmoko-messages2 iirc |
| 08:44.25 | Digital_Pioneer | I pgrepped for messages, got nothing. |
| 08:44.41 | Digital_Pioneer | Though openmoko-messages is the SMS program. |
| 08:44.54 | rooly | yeah, no 2...thats the package name, my bad |
| 08:45.22 | rooly | anywho |
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| 08:45.27 | rooly | restart x...that works too |
| 08:45.29 | Digital_Pioneer | BTW... Even though the alert shows me the SMS when I receive it, it would seem the carrier isn't charging me. Almost as if I didn't ever actually look at it. |
| 08:48.20 | rooly | you sad about that? |
| 08:48.30 | Digital_Pioneer | Not in the least. :P |
| 08:48.32 | Digital_Pioneer | Just curious. |
| 08:48.43 | Digital_Pioneer | (For .20/SMS, I'm ecstatic) |
| 08:48.59 | rooly | well, try and pester it like a pimple |
| 08:49.06 | rooly | cause the more you mess with it, the longer it stays |
| 08:49.09 | rooly | right? |
| 08:49.31 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheheh, I don't like texting. I don't want to encourage their business model. |
| 08:49.48 | rooly | most carrier phones have specific sms implementations |
| 08:49.58 | rooly | they send information back on opened messages |
| 08:50.05 | Digital_Pioneer | That being "It's free to provide, but we charge a crapload for you to use it" |
| 08:50.16 | rooly | openmoko's old pim apps probably don't do that |
| 08:50.27 | Digital_Pioneer | The new ones do? |
| 08:50.46 | rooly | well, qtopia seems to, since my phone company properly registers it |
| 08:50.46 | Digital_Pioneer | And oddly enough, they have detected one SMS I received and charged me. |
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| 08:51.06 | Digital_Pioneer | But that's only one in about 4 received. |
| 08:51.23 | rooly | i'll send you one, pm me your number |
| 08:51.26 | rooly | see how that works |
| 08:51.32 | rooly | is probably gonna get charged an arm and a leg |
| 08:51.52 | Digital_Pioneer | rooly: Well don't then. :P |
| 08:51.58 | rooly | lol |
| 08:52.04 | rooly | i've got credit to my account |
| 08:52.06 | rooly | don't worry |
| 08:52.16 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh, OK. |
| 08:52.54 | Digital_Pioneer | Can I make the phone vibe when I recv SMS in silent mode? |
| 08:54.26 | Digital_Pioneer | Got it. |
| 08:54.32 | rooly | i don't know |
| 08:54.41 | rooly | you may have to modify the application |
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| 08:54.48 | rooly | but it wouldn't be too hard |
| 08:55.14 | rooly | just echo # >> /sys/path/to/vibration/motor |
| 08:55.38 | rooly | a couple times |
| 08:55.56 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah. |
| 08:56.20 | Digital_Pioneer | rooly: They're rather expensive. Virtual apples just cost me .20. :( |
| 08:56.28 | Digital_Pioneer | Carrier picked up on it, I guess. |
| 08:56.30 | rooly | lol |
| 08:56.52 | rooly | send one to yourself |
| 08:57.09 | Digital_Pioneer | I'd rather not keep wasting money. |
| 08:57.24 | rooly | i know what you mean |
| 08:57.33 | rooly | they charged you to recieve it? |
| 08:57.37 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah. |
| 08:57.46 | rooly | that's not how that should work |
| 08:58.25 | rooly | anywho |
| 08:58.37 | rooly | first base man |
| 08:58.38 | Digital_Pioneer | Except the phone opens it upon arrival. |
| 08:58.56 | rooly | met me a pretty little girl not but 2 days ago. |
| 08:59.15 | Digital_Pioneer | Congratulations. |
| 08:59.19 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
| 08:59.26 | Tm_T | kids |
| 08:59.31 | rooly | and better yet, she's nice and 16 |
| 08:59.48 | rooly | i'm only 20, but still |
| 08:59.49 | rooly | aint to bad |
| 09:00.01 | Digital_Pioneer | rooly: Send her here, I just turned 17 three hours ago. |
| 09:00.07 | Digital_Pioneer | LOL |
| 09:00.09 | rooly | fuck you |
| 09:00.11 | rooly | mine bitch |
| 09:00.25 | Digital_Pioneer | Hey, OK, mind the language. |
| 09:00.37 | rooly | excuse the harsh language, but nobody messes with me on that |
| 09:00.50 | Digital_Pioneer | Your underage girlfriends? |
| 09:01.00 | rooly | nah, just my girlfriend in general |
| 09:01.14 | rooly | anywho |
| 09:01.18 | rooly | first base on first date |
| 09:01.52 | Digital_Pioneer | Riiight, well, I think i'm gonna hit the sack. |
| 09:01.55 | rooly | mind you, i don't want you guys to think i'm into floozies or anything. |
| 09:02.04 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
| 09:02.16 | rooly | but i think its kinda cool |
| 09:02.24 | rooly | i mean, i dated 1 girl in high school |
| 09:02.40 | rooly | and i picked up this one (with a little help) in a matter of 2 days |
| 09:02.48 | Digital_Pioneer | Woot. |
| 09:03.33 | rooly | but maaaaan i'm gonna get made fun of on the job tomorrow |
| 09:03.40 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
| 09:03.56 | rooly | but to hell with them, i have a 16 y/o girlfriend |
| 09:04.07 | Digital_Pioneer | Isn't that illegal? |
| 09:04.10 | Digital_Pioneer | Heheh |
| 09:04.19 | rooly | no, sex is illigal |
| 09:04.38 | Digital_Pioneer | Ohhhh, of course. You're looking for moral support. |
| 09:05.00 | rooly | but right up to before i add part a to part b, its all fine and dandy |
| 09:05.20 | rooly | and in this state i'm in, age of consent is 16 |
| 09:05.55 | rooly | anywho |
| 09:05.59 | rooly | i'm screwing myself over |
| 09:06.04 | rooly | gotta be at work in a few hours |
| 09:06.12 | rooly | you guys have fun now, ya hear? |
| 09:06.16 | rooly | nighty new year |
| 09:06.18 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, sure. |
| 09:06.22 | Digital_Pioneer | Later. |
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| 11:36.46 | mnagy | what file from http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ should I use for flashing NOR? |
| 11:38.02 | JaMa | you have debug board or why want you to flash that? |
| 11:40.09 | JaMa | you probably want to flash only NAND bootloader.. |
| 11:40.48 | JaMa | and its this file gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin if you have gta02 device |
| 11:41.20 | mnagy | JaMa: thank you |
| 11:41.42 | mnagy | JaMa: and I have a debug board. I'm flashing it because of this bug: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1568 |
| 11:43.16 | mnagy | do you know what the gta02v5-lowlevel.bin file is for? |
| 11:44.54 | JaMa | no :( I dont even have debug board.. |
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| 11:48.26 | king | I am using SHR on my openmoko, the latest images. GSM is not working for me. Would someone help me? |
| 11:48.57 | mnagy | JaMa: I don't have it either. Just borrowed it from a friend because of this bug |
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| 12:04.31 | rwhitby | mnagy: lowlevel.bin is used if you need to reload the bootloader on a GTA01. Dunno if it's used at all for a GTA02, unless you use a modified debug board to reflash the NOR (which no end-user should ever need to do) |
| 12:05.10 | rwhitby | oh, you said you need to flash NOR. |
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| 12:49.13 | mnagy | rwhitby: yeah, I need it or else I can't update, I still have 2007.2.. as I understand it now, to flash NOR, I should use norwp to enable writing to NOR and then execute the flashnor script, giving him the bin file |
| 12:49.44 | mnagy | I just hope I only need gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin for that |
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| 13:49.04 | viq | anyone knows what is the difference between pyneo "zad" and "epydial" images? |
| 13:53.51 | king | I installed zhone and rebooted. Now the zhone screen schows no icons. It is just a plain wallpaper, nothing happens on tapping. |
| 13:57.23 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * rc8209c1b2719 10/ (configure.ac src/dbus-hlid.vala): cosmetics |
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| 14:00.56 | leachim_dot_eu | good new year |
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| 14:13.14 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * ra10b337e8421 10/configure.ac: yank dependency on gtk+, this is not a GUI app |
| 14:15.12 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r103e9148c9ab 10/po/Makefile.in.in: add po/Makefile.in.in |
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| 14:20.27 | xqo | hai, is it possible to remove all files installed by a package? I installed task-openmoko-games, but it added 20 shortcuts so i dont want it anymore. opkg remove or opkg remove -recursive does not remove the shortcuts |
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| 14:26.46 | jonkristian | xqo: /usr/share/applications/ , maybe just remove the shortcuts |
| 14:27.29 | xqo | alright, ill try that! thank you |
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| 14:28.35 | feitingen | xqo: if you want to remove the packages installed by task-games, you have to remove each game package |
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| 14:29.59 | xqo | i tried that, but they dont seem to be packages removable by opkg remove |
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| 14:43.50 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * ra8d46ae2769b 10/ (Makefile.am src/dbus-hlid.vala src/main.vala src/obj.vala): split source files, start service only once |
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| 14:50.06 | mnagy | uhm, ok.. |
| 14:50.14 | mnagy | so I connected the debug board |
| 14:50.31 | mnagy | norwp says rw |
| 14:50.36 | mnagy | but flashing still fails :( |
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| 15:10.27 | xqo | in 2008.8 there was a wrench-symbol in the dropdown-bar with settings. this seems to have disappeared in 2008.12, is it any way i can bring it back? I quite liked it |
| 15:10.40 | xqo | the wrench opened a settings-menu |
| 15:11.19 | feitingen | xqo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume |
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| 15:12.28 | feitingen | opkg install illume-config and edit /etc/enlightenment/default_profile to say illume instead of asu |
| 15:12.56 | xqo | alright cool, thanks a bunch! |
| 15:13.37 | xqo | do i need to restart X or reboot? |
| 15:14.02 | moritz | i think, restarting X is enough |
| 15:14.40 | xqo | usj how do you do that? |
| 15:14.43 | xqo | init.d something |
| 15:15.34 | feitingen | /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart |
| 15:15.40 | xqo | thanks |
| 15:15.48 | feitingen | np ^^ |
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| 15:17.59 | brian__ | yea that workjed |
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| 15:28.02 | brian__ | worked for a few then reverted back to qtopia keyboard |
| 15:28.52 | brian__ | i like the color of the qtopia keyboard but i need a terminal |
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| 15:58.55 | jonkristian | scap is sloooooow |
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| 16:23.17 | seameat | happy new year |
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| 16:23.32 | rooly | feels sorta like crap |
| 16:23.38 | seameat | oh? |
| 16:23.42 | rooly | yeah |
| 16:23.48 | rooly | it could be because of the 3am bedtime |
| 16:23.53 | seameat | too much drinking or what? |
| 16:23.59 | seameat | ah heh |
| 16:24.07 | rooly | no, didn't drink at all |
| 16:24.15 | seameat | yeah i stayed up too late playing WoW |
| 16:24.30 | rooly | i stayed up late with a girl i met |
| 16:24.35 | seameat | cool |
| 16:24.36 | rooly | but not like that |
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| 16:24.56 | xqo | feitingen, Illume sure crashes alot... :-R |
| 16:25.10 | xqo | "This is bad, illume segv'd" |
| 16:25.11 | rooly | snickers |
| 16:25.20 | rooly | anyone have a screenshot of SHR? |
| 16:25.30 | xqo | shr? |
| 16:26.07 | rooly | stable hybrid release |
| 16:26.13 | seameat | no screenshot... i need to flash SHR again |
| 16:26.15 | rooly | the community-driven om distro |
| 16:27.48 | xqo | oh |
| 16:27.50 | xqo | "FSO is never intended on its own to be a full image, it's just the infrastructure and a demo app. " |
| 16:28.41 | seameat | is there a way to flash the hackable1 distro? the instructions on the hackable1 site says to remove the sd card and do it all on the desktop comp, but that's frustrating |
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| 16:34.55 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07dbus-hlid * r57f536746f8a 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): add const file |
| 16:35.24 | xqo | How can i add a qwerty-button on the dropdown-menu to toggle the keyboard? |
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| 16:58.35 | SpeedEvil | \ |
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| 17:00.31 | Mortak | happy new year everyone :) |
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| 17:13.45 | mnagy | hi, sorry for asking again, but I'm pretty desparate.. I need to flash my NOR because of bug http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1568 |
| 17:13.51 | mnagy | norwp says my nor is rw |
| 17:13.57 | mnagy | but ./flashnor gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin doesn't work |
| 17:14.02 | mnagy | cat: write error: Input/output error |
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| 17:20.26 | tuju__ | how do i start a shell in 2008.12 image? |
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| 17:39.11 | xqo | what is Dropbear? |
| 17:39.58 | Defiant- | tiny ssh daemon |
| 17:40.44 | xqo | alright |
| 17:41.52 | SpeedEvil | Or a deadly marsupial. |
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| 18:23.12 | king | How do I erase / backspace a character in default keyboard on SHR? |
| 18:25.10 | Tig| | drag your finger left on the keyboard |
| 18:25.30 | Tig| | anywhere on the keyboard it does not matter |
| 18:25.50 | Tig| | and if you drag your finger right you get a space |
| 18:25.56 | Tig| | etc |
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| 19:07.26 | feitingen | oh, the phone crashed or something |
| 19:08.30 | azaghal | Hm... When screen fades away (to black) under SHR, tapping the display doesn't bring back the brightness. Any suggestions? |
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| 19:17.07 | spydon | azaghal, press the powerbutton once and then tap the screen |
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| 19:17.42 | spydon | feitingen, if it blinks red you probably have a kernel panic :P |
| 19:17.53 | azaghal | spydon: Are you talking about suspend? |
| 19:18.31 | spydon | yes |
| 19:18.51 | feitingen | spydon: thanks, i expected i would get something like that, never seen it before though |
| 19:19.20 | azaghal | spydon: Nope, this is more like the "idle" state is not reset when tapping the screen (I've disabled suspend) |
| 19:19.33 | azaghal | Hm... Ok, after reboot it works ok again. |
| 19:19.50 | spydon | weird |
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| 19:20.42 | azaghal | spydon: I think that it's something related to http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/136 |
| 19:20.56 | azaghal | (although I haven't played LiquidWar) |
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| 20:42.00 | rooly | sighs |
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| 21:08.04 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03mirko 07org.openmoko.dev * r9afa9d11386f 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: changed version if tichy to be used in daily-build |
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| 21:08.07 | CIA-7 | openmoko: 03mirko 07org.openmoko.dev * rebab572f2935 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): removing paroli-gui && paroli-dialer |
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| 21:24.37 | rooly | yarr |
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| 21:35.05 | emsyr | Happy new year to everyone!!! |
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| 21:41.37 | emsyr | Does anyone have problem with suspend with OM 2008.12? |
| 21:42.09 | emsyr | After FR getting into suspend mode never wakes up... |
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| 21:47.00 | almien | yes, others have that problem also emsyr |
| 21:47.52 | emsyr | Well. I've found something interesting about it. |
| 21:48.02 | emsyr | Something that at least works for me. |
| 21:48.14 | Tig| | Flashing SHR? :) |
| 21:48.45 | emsyr | It has to do with the rotate application |
| 21:50.26 | emsyr | When someone installs the rotate application, it puts a scripti in init.d folder to start the application during booting |
| 21:51.23 | emsyr | If I live this app running suspend mode has problems (the FR never comes back) |
| 21:51.49 | emsyr | If I terminate this app, suspend mode works perfectly |
| 21:52.11 | emsyr | How does this sound to you? |
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| 22:09.28 | almien | post to mailing list, in case anyone missed it on IRC? |
| 22:09.46 | almien | (is rather quiet today isn't it, in IRC?) |
| 22:09.57 | Tig| | also you could bung it on the wiki |
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| 22:12.56 | emsyr | I would but I wanted first to have a second opinion\ |
| 22:13.29 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r332 10/trunk/python-elementary/ (elementary/elementary.c_elementary.pyx tests/test.py): Fixed the problem with the state get/set methods of the toggle widget |
| 22:14.03 | emsyr | I also want to send this to the fellow who has written the app in order to have it in mind |
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| 22:28.44 | emsyr | Does anyone knows which image format does omview support? |
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| 22:38.10 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r333 10/trunk/python-elementary/tests/test.py: Extends test.py |
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| 22:39.03 | jonkristian | i wonder if the fr will have enough battery life to last a 2hr movie |
| 22:39.30 | Tm_T | does |
| 22:40.52 | jonkristian | if not i will be dead bored on the train tomorrow |
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| 22:41.37 | almien | some trains have power sockets? |
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| 22:42.08 | CIA-7 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r334 10/trunk/python-elementary/elementary/elementary.c_elementary.pyx: Implement missing Icon.file_set method |
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| 22:43.41 | jonkristian | almien: yeah, im uncertain if this one does |
| 22:43.58 | jonkristian | it's a cheap ticket, so guess it won't |
| 22:44.49 | jonkristian | ill run a test tonight i guess, gotta fill up the fr with goodies now:) |
| 22:45.48 | Tig| | almien, in the UK the Virgin Trains main line ones do if you are at a table |
| 22:46.20 | Tig| | they are specifically for laptops and mobile phone chargers |
| 22:48.18 | jonkristian | anybody know any interesting podcasts i should watch |
| 22:48.49 | Tm_T | jonkristian: linucast, finnish radio show about FLOSS |
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| 22:49.24 | Tig| | watch, nope but listen then the usual lot from BBC R4 :) |
| 22:49.31 | jonkristian | :) |
| 22:49.35 | jonkristian | Tm_T: in english? |
| 22:49.59 | Tm_T | jonkristian: well you didn't mention that requirement at first (;) |
| 22:50.19 | jonkristian | hehe |
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| 22:51.01 | viq | jonkristian: I like Security Now, The CommandLine, BSDTalk is a bit specific, those are those often updated |
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| 22:51.22 | jonkristian | thanks, i'll take a look at those |
| 22:51.47 | viq | There's also Run Your Own Server that's fun |
| 22:54.03 | rooly | sighs over here then |
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| 22:54.44 | Tig| | rooly, you are sighing more than usual this evening :) |
| 22:56.08 | brian__ | me 2008.12 smoked |
| 22:56.35 | rooly | yeah...well... |
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| 23:01.46 | jonkristian | yuk, browsing in pythm sucks |
| 23:01.55 | Tig| | happy new year rooly :) |
| 23:02.09 | rooly | meh |
| 23:02.22 | rooly | its still the same week as last year |
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| 23:04.48 | brian__ | look its 2009.1:) |
| 23:05.37 | viq | 2009::1 ;) |
| 23:06.06 | almien | have to start changing the copyright dates again when modifying files now :( |
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| 23:08.50 | rooly | could just pipe it all into sed |
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| 23:23.05 | jonkristian | grrr, mencoder is being dumb:/ |
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| 23:27.22 | Tig| | wassup |
| 23:27.44 | Tig| | btw did you get the network working? |
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| 23:30.04 | jonkristian | Tig|: :/ |
| 23:30.10 | jonkristian | Nopes |
| 23:30.17 | Digital_Pioneer | lindi-: So how's Kapula coming? |
| 23:30.28 | jonkristian | I wanted to rip lords of dogtown, guess the dvd had too many scratches. |
| 23:33.02 | Tig| | lots of read errors? |
| 23:34.14 | jonkristian | for mencoder? nah, it just hung, kept making some pretty strange noises. |
| 23:34.36 | jonkristian | ripping ironman instead:D |
| 23:35.06 | jonkristian | Tig|: as for wlan, i tried several networks, all other networks except for my own, made mofi lock up. |
| 23:35.29 | Tig| | I have not tried mofi on an open network here yet |
| 23:35.36 | jonkristian | at least in my own network, it even get's an ip. |
| 23:35.54 | jonkristian | ah, maybe that made it hang, it being open |
| 23:35.56 | Tig| | I will give it a whirl next time I visit civilisation |
| 23:36.24 | jonkristian | well i gave it up for now, gotta prepare the phone with some goodies for a long trainride tomorrow. |
| 23:36.30 | jonkristian | cool |
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| 23:37.21 | Tig| | just wait it will magically work after an update at some point :) |
| 23:37.39 | jonkristian | yeah, that's what im hoping:D |
| 23:38.18 | Tig| | if we could work out the problem it would speed it up though :) until we can work out if it is your FR or your router there is not an easy way to procede |
| 23:38.35 | Tig| | or proceed :) |
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| 23:39.01 | jonkristian | Yes, i will report if i get it working. |
| 23:39.17 | Tig| | don't tell me! tell the mofi people! |
| 23:39.52 | jonkristian | well, you mentioned it worked right out of the box, and i haven't touched any settings after flashing so, could just aswell be my router. |
| 23:41.06 | Tig| | well it worked here with a linksys WAG200G adsl/router/wifi box and worked with an WRT54G |
| 23:42.26 | almien | jonkristian: I saw that too (mofi locking-up for networks other than my home one) - any idea why? |
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| 23:42.51 | Tig| | but a router should be punting out standard protocols that the FR should understand so if we could find out why we can probably make it work on networks that are not playing by the rules |
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| 23:43.46 | jonkristian | almien: no ideas there:/ |
| 23:44.32 | Slaxxer | mofi has never worked out of the box for me on an open home network |
| 23:45.21 | almien | Slaxxer: open networks seem to be fine whenever I tried |
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| 23:46.42 | jonkristian | hm |
| 23:46.55 | jonkristian | well my problem on the home network is strange |
| 23:47.12 | Tig| | I suspect the router |
| 23:47.32 | jonkristian | Tig|: yeah, me too, I've had other issues with those models |
| 23:48.02 | Tig| | but I have never liked alcatel / thomson kit but mainly from a bad experience about 9 years ago so not really rational :) |
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| 23:48.55 | almien | it would be nice to have some sort of "connected to internet" icon on titlebar (e.g. occasional ping to a reliable server) like the "connected to phone network" icon |
| 23:49.27 | jonkristian | yeah, i think my isp might be persuaded to send me another, but probably the same mark |
| 23:49.39 | jonkristian | s/mark/brand/ |
| 23:50.20 | Tig| | jonkristian, where are you based? |
| 23:50.35 | jonkristian | Norway |
| 23:51.48 | Tig| | there will be a way of making it work as your laptop can talk to the damn thing :) |
| 23:52.02 | Tig| | and it gived the FR and address |
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| 23:52.43 | jonkristian | it sure did, it gave the fr adress and correct dns, but it fails to see that it's active. |
| 23:53.15 | Tig| | when you say it fails to see if it is active what do you mean |
| 23:53.20 | Tig| | is it a status page |
| 23:53.25 | jonkristian | yes |
| 23:54.08 | Tig| | this is why I am thinking it is a router security thing |
| 23:54.23 | Tig| | as wifi is working as you get an IP |
| 23:54.28 | Tig| | etc |
| 23:54.54 | Tig| | and the lan works as you can ping your laptop |
| 23:55.19 | Tig| | ah, does your ISP require you to use a proxy server? |
| 23:55.49 | jonkristian | hm |
| 23:56.17 | jonkristian | i am not sure |
| 23:56.17 | jonkristian | any where i could find out? |
| 23:56.25 | Tig| | wait I am talking bollocks |
| 23:56.40 | Tig| | otherwise your laptop would not be working |
| 23:58.06 | Tig| | we tried tcp window scaling the other night didn't we |
| 23:58.15 | jonkristian | yeah |
| 23:58.26 | jonkristian | turned it off on the fr |
| 23:58.49 | tuju_ | puuuh, that SHR image is big. |
| 23:58.58 | jonkristian | but i didn't really do much other than a re-connect on mofi |
| 23:59.03 | jonkristian | before i turned it back on |
| 23:59.06 | Tig| | jonkristian, congratulations you have found a new bug that is an utter pain in the arse :) |
| 23:59.16 | jonkristian | lol! |
| 23:59.50 | Tig| | jonkristian, do you know anyone else with a WPA network you could try and connect to ? |