| 00:02.42 | quatrox | mwester: I don't know how to add something to a bug report |
| 00:03.54 | quatrox | mwester: I logged in and I can view the report (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1841) |
| 00:04.09 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4828 10/developers/werner/wlan-spi/patches-tracking/experiment-s3cmci-suspend-softly.patch: Final backup before splitting it. |
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| 00:11.55 | quatrox | ahh - missed the e-mail validation because of my filters... |
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| 00:27.22 | nomeata | Hi. Has anyone here used mumpot before? |
| 00:33.27 | kd8ikt | pot? |
| 00:35.00 | slaxxin | welp fso up a running zhone |
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| 01:30.42 | kd8ikt | just installed debian |
| 01:31.25 | slaxxin | from shr? |
| 01:31.29 | kd8ikt | nice but its wsoding me on backlight resume |
| 01:31.38 | kd8ikt | ugh fso actually |
| 01:31.54 | kd8ikt | m41 |
| 01:32.13 | kd8ikt | both are wsoding me ;( |
| 01:32.46 | kd8ikt | so i'm going to... edit some configs and possibly change kernels and see how that works |
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| 01:37.00 | kd8ikt | like the lil "topshelf" it has |
| 01:37.06 | kd8ikt | (debian) |
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| 01:47.52 | kd8ikt | rootfs 1.9G 321M 1.5G 18% / ;D |
| 01:48.21 | kd8ikt | melike having space |
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| 01:58.07 | raster | god debian is still fat |
| 01:59.08 | kd8ikt | and getting bigger |
| 01:59.24 | kd8ikt | i installed nano ;) |
| 02:00.15 | kd8ikt | and told frameworkd to forget about idle_lock idle idle_dim |
| 02:00.19 | kd8ikt | etc |
| 02:00.33 | raster | :( |
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| 02:03.31 | jonkristian | I must say, debian with xfce and escpecially tangogps feels smoother than on shr. |
| 02:03.45 | jonkristian | Well, I mustn't, but I did. |
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| 02:07.14 | kd8ikt | (raster)illumme ? |
| 02:09.01 | kd8ikt | whats the jffs2 partition? mtd6? |
| 02:09.10 | raster | ? |
| 02:09.17 | kd8ikt | i vant to mount it |
| 02:09.31 | raster | check mount |
| 02:09.57 | kd8ikt | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.59 | kd8ikt | yay |
| 02:10.16 | kd8ikt | i hardly had to do anything ;) |
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| 02:12.38 | jonkristian | kd8ikt: what u running on deb? |
| 02:13.27 | kd8ikt | fresh install |
| 02:13.43 | kd8ikt | like 20min ago |
| 02:13.51 | slaxxin | Because dpkg, the Debian package manager, does not support non-POSIX |
| 02:13.51 | slaxxin | filesystems, the Debian kernel package can not be installed. More |
| 02:13.51 | slaxxin | information are available at http://bugs.debian.org/315493. |
| 02:14.06 | jonkristian | ah, me too |
| 02:14.06 | KenYoung | raster, Do you have time for a question? |
| 02:14.21 | raster | KenYoung: sure |
| 02:14.47 | slaxxin | yea the top shelf in debian is too cool |
| 02:15.09 | KenYoung | raster, Thanks. On the Freerunner, what would be the fastest way to move a small number (9) of small images (roughly 25x25 pixels) around the display? |
| 02:15.42 | kd8ikt | orrery? |
| 02:15.49 | KenYoung | kd8ikt, Yup. |
| 02:15.56 | kd8ikt | :) |
| 02:16.18 | raster | KenYoung: solid rectangles |
| 02:16.28 | raster | with alpha? |
| 02:16.37 | KenYoung | raster, Dirty rectangles method? |
| 02:16.57 | raster | do they overlap? |
| 02:17.05 | raster | are the images solid |
| 02:17.11 | raster | or do they have an alpha channel |
| 02:17.15 | raster | that was my q |
| 02:17.16 | raster | :) |
| 02:17.20 | KenYoung | raster, No, no overlas, solid rectangles. |
| 02:17.28 | KenYoung | (no overlaps) |
| 02:17.32 | raster | if you want the absolute fastest way i need to find your constraints |
| 02:17.37 | raster | ok |
| 02:17.42 | raster | do the images ever overlap eachother? |
| 02:17.54 | KenYoung | raster, Nope, never. |
| 02:18.02 | raster | then XCopyArea |
| 02:18.12 | raster | draw them to the window once |
| 02:18.27 | raster | the XCopyArea rectangles of the window around |
| 02:18.32 | KenYoung | raster, OK, that's straight-forward and I understand it. Thanks! |
| 02:18.48 | kd8ikt | but alpha blending snds pretty cool |
| 02:18.49 | raster | wont get too much faster than that - on the glamo |
| 02:18.52 | raster | as that will be accelerated |
| 02:19.02 | raster | if you had them overlap |
| 02:19.23 | raster | then you'd want to just draw to a backing pixmap with dirty rects covering all the "Changed regions" |
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| 02:19.32 | raster | and then xcopyarea to the frontbuffer |
| 02:19.36 | KenYoung | raster, OK, I thought there might be some way to load them into glamo memory and have it move them around, or some other exotic thing. |
| 02:19.37 | raster | (window) |
| 02:19.45 | raster | yes |
| 02:19.46 | raster | pixmaps |
| 02:19.50 | raster | thats what pixmaps are |
| 02:19.59 | raster | but the window is in video ram anyway |
| 02:20.08 | raster | so you copy from video raom to video ram |
| 02:20.11 | raster | with an xcopyarea |
| 02:20.18 | raster | no intermediate copies or draws |
| 02:20.28 | raster | no temporary buffers |
| 02:20.41 | KenYoung | raster, Great - I didn't realiz]e the pixmaps resided there. |
| 02:21.31 | KenYoung | What happens if the glamo runs out of memory for pixmaps. That certainly won't happen with my tiny images, but what if a lot of clients request big pixmaps and the glamo runs out of memory? |
| 02:22.13 | raster | pixmaps reside in video ram if: |
| 02:22.35 | slaxxin | ./install.sh all |
| 02:22.52 | raster | 1. you have enough spare video ram for them. x will keep what it thinks is the most "commonly used" pixmaps in video ram - ones that dont fit will move to system ram (and move back to video ram) as/when/if needed and x decides its a good idea |
| 02:23.30 | raster | 2. nothing else has stolen video ram (eg opengl) and forces the pixmaps to move out |
| 02:23.53 | raster | so if it runs out - x will try its best to keep a working set in there |
| 02:23.57 | raster | but you're out of video ram |
| 02:23.58 | raster | too bad |
| 02:24.05 | raster | you suffer the perfromance penalties |
| 02:24.06 | raster | like |
| 02:24.13 | raster | "what happoens if i'm out of ram" |
| 02:24.17 | raster | you swap to disk |
| 02:24.20 | raster | and get slow |
| 02:24.21 | raster | :) |
| 02:24.36 | raster | any number of x clients can be using video ram |
| 02:24.39 | raster | so its not just up to you |
| 02:26.26 | raster | it all depends on what you do, the constraints and your desire for doing more stuff in future |
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| 02:28.13 | KenYoung | raster, Thanks again for the info. |
| 02:28.19 | raster | np |
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| 02:34.00 | kd8ikt | i bet i know what slaxxin is doing |
| 02:34.20 | kd8ikt | :D |
| 02:35.30 | slaxxin | trying to do |
| 02:36.19 | slaxxin | so when i did install.sh all i didnt get the error |
| 02:36.44 | slaxxin | Because dpkg, the Debian package manager, does not support non-POSIX |
| 02:36.44 | slaxxin | <slaxxin> filesystems, the Debian kernel package can not be installed. More |
| 02:36.44 | slaxxin | <slaxxin> information are available at http://bugs.debian.org/315493. |
| 02:37.38 | kd8ikt | oh |
| 02:37.51 | kd8ikt | mkfs.ext2 |
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| 02:37.59 | Sargun | Dave. |
| 02:38.43 | kd8ikt | SD_PART1_FS=ext2 ./install.sh |
| 02:38.57 | slaxxin | yea but i get those errors |
| 02:39.09 | kd8ikt | shouldnt this time |
| 02:39.20 | slaxxin | oo |
| 02:39.53 | kd8ikt | later go back and copy/backup then reformat it to vfat to boot it |
| 02:40.04 | jonkristian | i just did ./install.sh all |
| 02:40.25 | kd8ikt | funny cause when i did that it made both partitions ext |
| 02:40.40 | jonkristian | and that is bad because? |
| 02:41.08 | kd8ikt | u-boot recognises vfat+ext |
| 02:41.16 | kd8ikt | on my bootloader prompt atleast |
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| 02:46.19 | jonkristian | ah, i added ext2 |
| 02:52.02 | slaxxin | how to add et2 jonkristion |
| 02:52.09 | slaxxin | ext2? |
| 03:05.02 | kd8ikt | wow and debians missing a crapload |
| 03:05.15 | kd8ikt | ntp wireless-tools wpa_supplicant |
| 03:07.05 | slaxxin | upgrade yet? |
| 03:07.16 | slaxxin | might be dangerous |
| 03:07.29 | kd8ikt | everything is already newest |
| 03:07.36 | slaxxin | o |
| 03:08.41 | slaxxin | navit on there? |
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| 03:16.22 | slaxxin | tried hackable1 yet? |
| 03:16.41 | slaxxin | debian with polish |
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| 04:28.05 | slaxxin | latest testing om wont boot at all |
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| 04:53.26 | slaxxin | latest shr? |
| 04:53.50 | slaxxin | the time was 2100 |
| 04:54.13 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:00.13 | slaxxin | well it was daily rootfs an a testing kernel |
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| 06:23.11 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03john_lee 07org.openmoko.dev * r725254e88702 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs.inc: update to the latest stable kernel |
| 06:23.11 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03john_lee 07org.openmoko.dev * r6c07171823f3 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs.inc: update to latest qtopia for #1610 |
| 06:25.13 | Dave | Sarguns. |
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| 08:03.55 | Gromgull | Does anyone know their way around bitbake? Seems the smeg package is broken, smpeg has moved from CVS to SVN |
| 08:04.08 | Gromgull | i've updated the URL but the folder now ends up named trunk and not smpeg |
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| 08:14.44 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:16.54 | viq | Gromgull: I think that's a subversion question. If you have url "http://some/project" that will check out to project. "http://some/project/trunk" will check out to trunk. "http://some/project/trunk somename" will check out to somename. |
| 08:17.29 | kd8ikt | yea |
| 08:17.34 | Gromgull | viq: it is, and if it was just svn you can do svn co path folder |
| 08:17.43 | Gromgull | and it would check it out to a differnet name |
| 08:17.48 | Gromgull | but how to I amke bitbake do this? |
| 08:17.54 | Gromgull | anyway - it was fixed in testing |
| 08:18.02 | Gromgull | so now I just have to rebuild everything and it should be ok :) |
| 08:18.25 | viq | I know nothing about bitbake, but I would expect if you put in URL you could use that trick |
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| 08:28.44 | Gromgull | How long does it take some people here to do a clean openembedded build? |
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| 08:35.25 | Inc_Vega | hi all |
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| 08:37.09 | Inc_Vega | I want to update env for kerenel regardfing 2Gb Transend card. Just who can give me normal how-to ? |
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| 09:13.38 | dent | Anybody got TangoGPS working with SHR, using GPS? |
| 09:13.55 | dent | I tested agpsgui, it can get a fix in ~ 50 sec, quite reliably |
| 09:14.17 | dent | but with tangogps, it keeps saying my geo pos is 0, 0 (i.e. no fix I guess) |
| 09:14.21 | FilipLinux4 | dent: I've been using tangogps on shr |
| 09:14.35 | dent | BUT is kees saying: number of sattelites: n/0, with n anything from 1 to 9 |
| 09:14.39 | dent | (changing) |
| 09:14.54 | dent | and the GPS time is updated to something which probably is not the FR time |
| 09:14.57 | dent | so something is going on |
| 09:15.08 | dent | FilipLinux4: just launching tangogps, and you can see your GPS pos? |
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| 09:15.37 | Sargun | We have AGPS? |
| 09:15.40 | FilipLinux4 | yes, I mad some OSM tracks yesterday using it |
| 09:15.46 | Sargun | Neat. |
| 09:15.51 | Sargun | I didn't know that |
| 09:15.52 | dent | hmm... lucky you :) |
| 09:16.14 | FilipLinux4 | but the neo needs to sit next to the window if i want a fix inside |
| 09:16.19 | dent | Sargun: ? agpsgui has nothing to do with agps I guess :) - although I noticed some agps info on the wiki |
| 09:17.13 | dent | FilipLinux4: well, I managed to "fool" tango by running agpsgui, getting fix, then launching tango - then tango showed correct position, but this resulted in the gps pos not being updated any more |
| 09:17.21 | dent | I guess it confused both agpsgui and tango :) |
| 09:18.25 | FilipLinux4 | I've been looking at NavIt, because OSM coverage in my area is rather poor |
| 09:18.39 | FilipLinux4 | navit can use commercial maps |
| 09:19.26 | SpeedEvil | f;li: where are yoy? |
| 09:19.36 | dent | hm, I was positively surprised by OSM in areas I'm interested in :) |
| 09:21.03 | dent | anybody knows what do the numbers "Satellites: x/y" in tango, tab "Trip" mean? |
| 09:21.09 | dent | I always get n/0 |
| 09:22.50 | DocScrutinizer2 | dent: number of sats seen/used? |
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| 09:23.12 | dent | I thought so, thx |
| 09:23.23 | DocScrutinizer2 | "x/0" means no fix yet |
| 09:23.29 | dent | yeah :-( |
| 09:24.05 | dent | no idea about GPS details... so, does a reasonable value in GPS Time field mean it was something obtained from some of the sattelites? |
| 09:24.29 | dent | or is it FR time until a fix is obtained? |
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| 09:24.43 | lindi- | which GPS time field? |
| 09:24.50 | DocScrutinizer2 | never used tango, so a wild guess, and no idea about your last question |
| 09:25.19 | dent | lindi-: in tangogps, tab "Trip", there's "GPS time: ..." |
| 09:25.47 | lindi- | dent: yeah, if you have that right then you have received something from the satellites |
| 09:25.50 | devdas | system time |
| 09:26.01 | DocScrutinizer2 | but yeah, probably time is from sat |
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| 09:27.36 | dent | it's different from what ntpdate keeps in my box, and seems it might be the FR time |
| 09:27.48 | dent | I was jsut curious - if it means at least something is received by GPS |
| 09:27.53 | dent | sigh |
| 09:27.57 | dent | thanks anyway :) |
| 09:28.02 | lindi- | dent: how different? |
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| 09:28.46 | lindi- | dent: it should be 19 seconds off |
| 09:28.54 | dent | really? |
| 09:29.08 | dent | I'll try to set completely off FR time, to see what tango says :) |
| 09:29.09 | lindi- | dent: since it has no leap seconds |
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| 09:29.10 | DocScrutinizer2 | nah, wasn't that 13sec |
| 09:29.19 | lindi- | something in that order anyway ;) |
| 09:29.34 | dent | now my FR time is too close to the correct time :) |
| 09:30.04 | henk | is qwo in any repository available? |
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| 09:30.25 | DocScrutinizer2 | i'd assume this display is just blank until some info from sat is seen |
| 09:31.11 | DocScrutinizer2 | would be really stupid to fill system time in there |
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| 09:34.09 | dent | hm, staring TangoGPS and quickly changing to that tab yields some "1999" date |
| 09:34.28 | dent | BUT changing time to some nonsense revelas it gets updated to FR time:-( |
| 09:34.40 | dent | actually, GMT/UTC/something like that |
| 09:34.50 | dent | not local time (I somehow missed the one hr difference) |
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| 09:57.00 | xMDKx | morning |
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| 09:59.27 | mokel | hi, is there an image of the kernel patched with the "no_deep_sleep_patch"? |
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| 10:00.38 | kd8ikt | http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=conf/example/frameworkd.conf |
| 10:00.53 | kd8ikt | [odeviced.kernel26] |
| 10:01.21 | mokel | with which kernel does it work? |
| 10:01.26 | kd8ikt | all |
| 10:01.37 | kd8ikt | its the /etc/frameworkd.conf |
| 10:01.42 | kd8ikt | FSO stuff |
| 10:01.45 | kd8ikt | config |
| 10:01.59 | mokel | but the patch is added only 31h ago |
| 10:02.03 | mokel | submitted |
| 10:02.18 | kd8ikt | well... |
| 10:04.58 | kd8ikt | compile it yourself |
| 10:05.10 | mokel | thats what i did not want to do :) |
| 10:06.35 | kd8ikt | tsk tsk |
| 10:06.45 | mokel | :) |
| 10:06.56 | kd8ikt | wsod? |
| 10:07.07 | mokel | shoukd fb_blank bs 0 or 1 when i have problems |
| 10:07.09 | mokel | yes |
| 10:07.37 | mokel | i got the trick, but its not handy: you have to wear the fr in your pockets - display faced to your body |
| 10:07.50 | mokel | no wsod. display other way round - wsod ^^ |
| 10:08.01 | mokel | but thats not the fine way |
| 10:08.39 | kd8ikt | i changed idlenotifier stuff |
| 10:08.43 | kd8ikt | and nomore wsod |
| 10:08.50 | mokel | i changed it, too |
| 10:09.14 | mokel | 10, 50, 1 |
| 10:09.52 | kd8ikt | i have zero's across the board |
| 10:10.06 | kd8ikt | except idle_dim = 20 |
| 10:10.29 | kd8ikt | still blanks the screen but.. no wsod |
| 10:10.58 | mokel | do you use suspend? |
| 10:11.06 | kd8ikt | no |
| 10:11.10 | mokel | thats is |
| 10:11.11 | mokel | it |
| 10:11.17 | mokel | i only have wsod after suspend |
| 10:11.18 | kd8ikt | suspend = 0 |
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| 10:13.39 | mokel | the order in frameworkd.conf doesn't matter? |
| 10:14.57 | kd8ikt | doubt it (there just settings under the headers [odeviced.input] |
| 10:15.09 | kd8ikt | [odeviced.idlenotifier] |
| 10:15.11 | kd8ikt | etc |
| 10:15.18 | mokel | ok |
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| 10:29.11 | henk | whats the difference between 'accel-rotate-qte' and 'accel-rotate'? qte = qtopia extended? |
| 10:31.57 | methril | morning |
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| 12:37.00 | gromgull | Can anyone help me writing a bb file for a python module? |
| 12:37.06 | gromgull | I get ImportError: No module named setuptools |
| 12:37.09 | gromgull | when make runs setup.py ... |
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| 12:57.38 | gromgull | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.41 | gromgull | ahem |
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| 13:01.52 | effbiai | using SHR. does Mofi only support secured networks? the "Connect to selected" buttun hangs as it is pushed down, and nothing happens. I've also checked /var/log/messages on the dhcp server, no dhcp discover from the phone there eather. using latest image - but i've seen this earlier on an different open network before. i connected a WEP network at work today.. and that worked flawlessly. |
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| 13:20.39 | Zorkman | anyone know a good music player for SHR? |
| 13:20.44 | Zorkman | starling keeps segfaulting on me |
| 13:21.04 | valos[fr] | Zorkman: mokoko? |
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| 13:21.42 | Zorkman | it isn't in the feeds for shr, where can i find it? |
| 13:22.13 | valos[fr] | http://code.google.com/p/om-mediaplayer/ |
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| 13:22.33 | valos[fr] | http://code.google.com/p/om-mediaplayer/wiki/Mokoko_0_1 |
| 13:22.39 | Zorkman | thanks valos[fr], i'll try it out |
| 13:24.19 | Zorkman | valos[fr]: how do i add songs? can't find the info on their wiki page |
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| 13:26.10 | valos[fr] | http://code.google.com/p/om-mediaplayer/wiki/Mokoko_0_1 |
| 13:26.22 | valos[fr] | You must create a mokoko.conf file |
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| 13:30.12 | gromgull | One other question: What is the difference between depends and rdepends on the bb file? |
| 13:30.42 | gromgull | 50% wrong window... |
| 13:46.34 | Zorkman | valos[fr]: i've created that file, and made it point to my mp3's but it still doesn't show them, anyspecial hints? |
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| 13:52.41 | balrog-k1n | gromgull: rdepends lists packages needed for running the program |
| 13:52.52 | balrog-k1n | but not necessarily needed for building |
| 13:53.03 | balrog-k1n | or the other way |
| 13:53.37 | gromgull | thanks! |
| 13:54.01 | gromgull | I already got the answer in the openmoko-devel (i.e. the other 50% of the right window) |
| 13:54.11 | gromgull | but it was hard to find from bitbake docs |
| 13:55.39 | balrog-k1n | oh ok :p |
| 14:09.00 | Zorkman | mokoko doesn't show the files it has detected (when i run it over ssh i can see it detects the songs) anybody else has seen this behaviour? |
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| 14:24.50 | valos[fr] | Zorkman: have you click on playing list? |
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| 14:30.20 | Zorkman | valos[fr]: when i click playing list it does nothing |
| 14:30.22 | valos[fr] | Zorkman: it's a strange behaviour, but you must click on text "Playing list" to see mp3 |
| 14:30.48 | Zorkman | i'll try again (i'm restransferring mmy mp3's first) |
| 14:32.17 | valos[fr] | http://code.google.com/p/om-mediaplayer/wiki/Trac |
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| 14:53.20 | Fougner | :D |
| 14:53.22 | Fougner | Dave! |
| 14:55.48 | alephnull | _ajuonline|sh: My apologies. Did you all meet ? |
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| 15:03.26 | Fougner | jonkristian, ! |
| 15:04.43 | jonkristian | :) |
| 15:05.38 | jonkristian | PIZZA! |
| 15:05.48 | balrog-k1n | wakes up |
| 15:07.14 | Fougner | hahah |
| 15:07.18 | Fougner | balrog-k1n, what up? :D |
| 15:08.11 | Zorkman | i'll take that pizza thanks |
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| 15:21.56 | budfive5 | Does anybody know how to turn on GSM debugging in qtextended? My freerunner registers to the network in qtopia, but not in anything using FSO and I'm trying to figure out why. |
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| 15:34.49 | igor321 | bonjour! |
| 15:34.56 | igor321 | where can i find the daily kernel builds? |
| 15:35.12 | Zorkman | downloads.openmoko.org |
| 15:36.04 | igor321 | thanks... the kernels here, are they stable or stable-tracking? |
| 15:36.31 | igor321 | cause i'd like to get stable-tracking |
| 15:37.46 | Weiss | if you want stable-tracking, at the moment you have to build yourself (or i think andy had some preview images somewhere, but they'll be out of date by now) |
| 15:38.39 | Weiss | but compiling the kernel for OM isn't that hard (especially if you're brave enough to be trying stable-tracking) |
| 15:38.50 | igor321 | -tracking works with u-boot? |
| 15:38.54 | igor321 | or only wit qi? |
| 15:39.52 | Weiss | AIUI, you only need qi if your kernel is big (-moredrivers type of build), because uBoot can't cope with images over a certain size |
| 15:40.13 | Weiss | but my information may be inaccurate.. |
| 15:40.27 | Weiss | i haven't been keeping up with the kernel list as much as i shoul |
| 15:40.28 | Weiss | +d |
| 15:40.30 | igor321 | it think it isn't, i read somewhere something like that |
| 15:40.54 | igor321 | one more questions, are there instructions to compiling anywhere? |
| 15:41.01 | igor321 | *question |
| 15:41.26 | Weiss | not as much as there should be. some pointers on http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=summary |
| 15:41.30 | Weiss | i think there's a wiki page somewhere |
| 15:42.08 | Dave | uh oh, you have awoken the Balrogkun, you fools! |
| 15:42.12 | Weiss | basically, git clone, git checkout, edit "build.sh" to point at your toolchain directory, cp ./arch/arm/configs/gta02_defconfig .config, then "./build dummy" |
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| 15:42.35 | igor321 | Weiss: thanks a lot man, i'll go look around :) |
| 15:42.42 | Dave | gobble-gobble? |
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| 15:43.03 | Weiss | igor321: no problem |
| 15:44.45 | slaxxin | maybe i was confused but i dont think so |
| 15:45.14 | slaxxin | im sure i read that 2008,11 would arrive shortly |
| 15:45.20 | Fougner | Dave, hahahm, gobble-gobble? :D |
| 15:45.31 | slaxxin | pie piepie |
| 15:45.31 | Dave | moo? |
| 15:47.47 | Fougner | Dave, hha |
| 15:47.54 | Fougner | where's the "gobble-gobble" from? |
| 15:48.24 | Dave | Where do you think, motherfucker? |
| 15:48.40 | Dave | hurls a twenty pound turkey at fougner |
| 15:48.46 | Tm_T | Dave: that wasn't nice things to say |
| 15:49.00 | slaxxin | frozen of course |
| 15:49.03 | Dave | Tm_T, you want to be next? :p |
| 15:49.10 | igor321 | downloading the snapshot from git is like 6 times faster than my connection... |
| 15:49.21 | igor321 | interesting |
| 15:49.23 | Tm_T | Dave: next for what, sir? |
| 15:49.31 | slaxxin | flogging |
| 15:49.39 | Dave | readies his arsenal |
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| 15:50.12 | slaxxin | better u than me tm_T |
| 15:50.37 | Tm_T | slaxxin: if you say so (;) |
| 15:50.52 | Fougner | Hah |
| 15:50.56 | Fougner | you're crazy |
| 15:51.06 | Dave | Hahahahaha |
| 15:51.13 | Dave | Fougner, I believe you're describing yourself. |
| 15:51.23 | Tm_T | Fougner: I think I have heard that last 200 years or so |
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| 15:52.48 | Fougner | yeah, but it's still true |
| 15:52.55 | walkie | naming scheme of daily buids changes? does openmoko-asu-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz match testing-om-gta02-20081127.uImage.bin? |
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| 15:53.51 | slaxxin | yes it does |
| 15:54.12 | walkie | thanks |
| 15:54.23 | slaxxin | u gonna try it? |
| 15:54.45 | slaxxin | i dl it but havent used it yet |
| 15:56.16 | walkie | yes, want to try |
| 15:56.56 | walkie | but last time i tried daily build i was not able to ssh into it |
| 15:57.28 | walkie | and there was no apps to fix it |
| 15:57.40 | slaxxin | i did yesterday an i couldnt get to the gui |
| 15:57.54 | slaxxin | hanged at boot |
| 15:58.10 | walkie | through it is possible what i messed something with network config |
| 15:58.11 | slaxxin | i may had the wrong kernel |
| 15:58.46 | walkie | i was trying 20081121 |
| 15:58.49 | slaxxin | dave is eating turkey right noe i bet |
| 15:59.08 | slaxxin | shr? |
| 15:59.09 | Dave | om nom nom nom |
| 15:59.24 | slaxxin | lol |
| 15:59.30 | Dave | Ooh a turkey app for SHR would be a nice complement to openmoocow :D |
| 15:59.35 | Dave | shake it and it gobbles! |
| 15:59.36 | slaxxin | banna pudding |
| 15:59.42 | Dave | :D |
| 15:59.49 | walkie | it impressed me by successful boot with from 8gb sdhc without updating u-boot |
| 16:00.26 | slaxxin | debian? |
| 16:00.49 | slaxxin | i guess i gotta upgrade me u boot |
| 16:01.24 | walkie | no, daily build 20081121 |
| 16:02.11 | slaxxin | i ad 20081127 |
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| 16:02.23 | slaxxin | last night |
| 16:02.58 | slaxxin | 67 megs ----it must have some apps |
| 16:03.05 | walkie | i don't want to update anything on internal flash ram without strong need |
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| 16:04.03 | walkie | the policy is not to provide any GUI apps except Setting and Installer on daily builds |
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| 16:07.13 | Dave | :) |
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| 16:07.32 | walkie | and i'am trying everything on sd card - i made backups of factory image, but there was reports that with this method (dfu-util upload) factory u-boot make broken images |
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| 16:10.04 | ronny | walkie: why do you need those backups, just flash the latest uboot and a recent image, done |
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| 16:12.50 | Dave | hey ronny |
| 16:14.15 | walkie | factory 2007.2 already help me to identify weak electric contact in loudspeaker after i spent two days trying to get sound from there in 2008.9, and i want keep it |
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| 16:18.41 | Dave | :D |
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| 16:27.38 | Dave | zomg pyneo v2?? |
| 16:27.58 | Fougner | Dave! |
| 16:28.06 | Fougner | what's zomg pyneo v2? =) |
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| 16:29.51 | freerunnerlive | is there a downloadable android image ? |
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| 16:34.53 | Dave | yes |
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| 16:36.35 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * re9b54e833f84 10framework/tests/org.freesmartphone.GSM.py: tests: org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.[ListProviders|RegisterWithProvider] done |
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| 16:36.46 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r458c30317a69 10/tests/org.freesmartphone.GSM.py: Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' |
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| 16:40.51 | walkie | just tried daily 20081127 - not booting to GUI not connecting via ssh :( |
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| 16:43.11 | Weiss | walkie: OM-testing? |
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| 17:12.34 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03mail * r1819dc7a500d 10/src/libraries/qtopia/ (qphoneprofile.cpp qphoneprofile.h): The qtopia phone profile supported only the Volume setting |
| 17:12.35 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03mail * rc196ccd98e0f 10/src/server/phone/callscreen/semithemed/callscreen.cpp: Update the callscreen volume slider according to the new |
| 17:12.35 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03mail * rc0de3a76bc40 10/etc/default/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf: Add the CallVolume setting to configuration (set by default at 4). |
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| 17:16.20 | white_gecko | hello, i try to compile libgnomevfs with the toolchain and get this error: http://paste.debian.net/22390/ at running ./configure |
| 17:16.58 | white_gecko | but "pkg-config gnome-mime-data-2.0 && echo $?" tells me "0" |
| 17:18.51 | Elleo | you need to isntall the gnome-mime-data package into the tool chain: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Installing_additional_libraries_into_the_toolchain |
| 17:19.02 | Elleo | it's not enough to just have it installed on your host system |
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| 17:23.07 | white_gecko | i have installed it into the toolchaein |
| 17:23.12 | white_gecko | toolchain |
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| 17:28.10 | white_gecko | $ opkg-target install gnome-mime-data |
| 17:28.11 | white_gecko | Package gnome-mime-data (2.18.0-r0) installed in root is up to date. |
| 17:28.17 | white_gecko | this is what i've done |
| 17:29.14 | slaxxin | file:///home/brian/Desktop/openmoko-asu-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 17:31.02 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rcd90c97cbc7f 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (modems/abstract/mediator.py objects.py): ogsmd: fix unimplemented method org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetNetworkCountryCode() -> ss |
| 17:31.03 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r8805db9320d2 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/error.py: otapi: fix bogus error namespaces |
| 17:31.04 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rbeadf3939ddd 10framework/tests/ (org.freesmartphone.GSM.py test.py): tests: org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetNetworkCountryCode() done |
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| 17:33.04 | TAsn | man, I hate my isp. |
| 17:33.14 | Elleo | white_gecko: no idea then, sorry |
| 17:34.14 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rde2f5ce2f837 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 17:34.14 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' |
| 17:34.14 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: Conflicts: |
| 17:34.14 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: framework/subsystems/ogsmd/device.py |
| 17:34.14 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py |
| 17:35.37 | Fougner_ | TAsn, why? =D |
| 17:35.59 | TAsn | too many disconnects. ;[ |
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| 17:36.16 | merlyn | hi |
| 17:36.34 | TAsn | merlyn, hey. do you hate my isp? |
| 17:36.59 | merlyn | TAsn, no, nothing against your internet service provider, why? |
| 17:37.11 | TAsn | because I do ;\ |
| 17:37.36 | merlyn | thats bad for you :-( |
| 17:37.39 | TAsn | yeah. |
| 17:37.49 | TAsn | I think I should change. ;] |
| 17:38.07 | white_gecko | TAsn: :-( |
| 17:38.17 | merlyn | i am looking for androidfs.jffs2, but nowhere to find, on sean_mcneil it is now deleted |
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| 17:38.34 | TAsn | well im off working out. |
| 17:38.36 | TAsn | cya. |
| 17:39.23 | merlyn | have anyone that image, to upload it somewhere please? |
| 17:39.27 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03tick * r4829 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/pkg.c: opkg: mark the pkg SF as !SF_FILELIST_CHANGED after write back. |
| 17:39.41 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03tick * r4830 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/hash_table.c: |
| 17:39.41 | CIA-24 | openmoko: opkg: making hash_table_insert works as real hash_table. |
| 17:39.41 | CIA-24 | openmoko: solving the update_file_ownership misbehaviour issue, and redundent installed files issue. |
| 17:39.55 | rooly | its practically worthless anyway, merlyn |
| 17:40.24 | merlyn | rooly: I thought, the main problem (with dialogs) is fixed now, isn't it? |
| 17:40.44 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r5fc078057dc7 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): otapi: fix crossreference in org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS.IncomingMessage |
| 17:40.46 | rooly | no suspend and no keyboard |
| 17:41.19 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07specs * r9a448c5cff5f 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): otapi: fix name for org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetNetworkCountryCode() |
| 17:41.50 | merlyn | missing keyboard is bad :-( |
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| 18:02.10 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rc832bb514cba 10framework/tests/org.freesmartphone.GSM.py: tests: org.freesmartphone.[Get|Set]CallingIdentification() done |
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| 18:11.22 | Dave | so, mwester, how about that fridge, huh? ;) |
| 18:11.29 | Dave | How'd it work out? |
| 18:14.24 | vininim | And freerunners keeps flashing on... |
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| 18:25.36 | tuxi | do i need an > 512 mb sdcard for Om_2008.9_Update? |
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| 18:28.08 | eric_j | is there a kernel source package? |
| 18:30.19 | mwester-laptop | Dave: Conclusion: my FR works fine at 34 F, as well as approx 100 F, suspending and resuming without WSoD. Conclusion #2: FR's wrapped in plastic along with a debug board in refrigerator are, apparently, not worthy of comment in my house anymore. |
| 18:30.39 | mwester-laptop | eric_j: git.openmoko.org |
| 18:30.44 | eric_j | thanks |
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| 18:40.50 | sicu | wraps his FR in tinfoil, places it in the refrigerator and patiently waits for a GPS fix |
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| 18:41.48 | bumbl | hahahaha |
| 18:41.51 | henk | hm? gps is broken? |
| 18:43.54 | tuxi | do i need to flash uboot, from shipped os to 2008.9 update ? |
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| 18:44.42 | henk | tuxi: does it work? then no... |
| 18:44.55 | tuxi | well i havent tried... |
| 18:44.59 | tuxi | but it can boot the old one |
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| 18:47.59 | DocScrutinizer2 | new uboot needed for propagating resume-reason to kernel |
| 18:48.18 | tuxi | means? |
| 18:48.34 | DocScrutinizer2 | nobody makes use of resume reason so far, afaik |
| 18:49.17 | DocScrutinizer2 | basically, if all works, no need to update ;-D |
| 18:51.13 | tuxi | k |
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| 18:52.20 | Zorkman | DocScrutinizer: "if all works", I would like to see that freerunner ;) |
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| 18:54.09 | bumbl | Zorkman: it is said that there is one behind the seven mountains. I think Snow White got one without problems |
| 18:54.12 | henk | is connman actually useful? |
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| 18:54.27 | DocScrutinizer2 | if you have an app to make, say, a gps-snapshot every minute, and you find your FR doesn't suspend but stays awake for half the time, then you might want to update uboot for sure |
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| 19:02.00 | tuxi | file:///home/checkob/download/Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 19:02.07 | tuxi | ... sorry wrong content |
| 19:02.17 | tuxi | Starting download: [######dfu_download error -71 |
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| 19:05.04 | tuxi | trying to flash from shipped os to 2008.9 |
| 19:05.09 | tuxi | anyone knows whats wrong here? |
| 19:05.23 | merlyn | google may know |
| 19:06.09 | bumbl | tuxi: try again |
| 19:06.14 | bumbl | then it should work |
| 19:06.27 | tuxi | k, lets see |
| 19:07.03 | DocScrutinizer2 | use correct -a and file |
| 19:07.43 | tuxi | sudo ./dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2 should be correct i think |
| 19:08.14 | DocScrutinizer2 | yup |
| 19:09.07 | gena2x | You should take look to code of dfu to find out that is the meaning of that cryptic 71 |
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| 19:10.59 | tuxi | where can i find the code, flashing of the uimage file worked by the way |
| 19:11.24 | SpeedEvil | It's an error from the USB stack I think |
| 19:13.48 | tuxi | [ 2419.877169] usb 4-2: device not accepting address 26, error -71 |
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| 19:17.40 | tuxi | perhaps the http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/dfu-util is broken? |
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| 19:18.16 | laen | are you in nor? |
| 19:18.47 | tuxi | yes |
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| 19:19.46 | laen | good ^^ |
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| 19:22.15 | tuxi | now it dont even finds the freerunner in dfu util |
| 19:22.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4831 10/developers/werner/neobin/envi: Allow setting of editor through environment variable EDITOR. |
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| 19:23.12 | gena2x | replug usb? |
| 19:23.23 | gena2x | reload usb module on host? |
| 19:24.09 | tuxi | k i'm trying |
| 19:26.52 | mwester | Why is NOR good? Are you trying to flash the NAND u-boot, then? |
| 19:27.18 | tuxi | no i'm not trying to flash uboot |
| 19:27.30 | mwester | Then use NAND u-boot. |
| 19:27.36 | tuxi | yeha i do |
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| 19:29.14 | sicu | wiki certainly causes confusion about NOR vs NAND |
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| 19:30.08 | md2k7 | hello, how do i get a GTK theme on SHR? preferably the "orange" Om2007 one |
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| 19:30.24 | md2k7 | Building_FSO in wiki suggests installing an icon theme, which I have |
| 19:30.41 | mwester | wiki page needs to be totally rewritten to correct the NOR vs NAND (and add Qi info as well) |
| 19:30.52 | md2k7 | and /usr/share/themes/Moko doesn't exist |
| 19:31.42 | henk | in shr: whats the difference between jffs2 and jffs2.summary? |
| 19:32.15 | tuxi | mwester, if i try to flash the jffs file i need nand uboot? |
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| 19:38.29 | mwester | tuxi: Use NAND u-boot for *everything* (the one and only time you EVER should use NOR uboot is to reflash uboot itself. All other times use NAND) |
| 19:38.49 | tuxi | how to get into nand u-boot? |
| 19:39.43 | gena2x | tuxi: hold power + then hold aux |
| 19:40.06 | tuxi | ah.. k |
| 19:40.13 | tuxi | but the wiki describes nor |
| 19:40.16 | tuxi | afaik |
| 19:41.18 | henk | mwester: why? i don't even have uboot in nand... what's bad about the nor uboot? |
| 19:41.19 | mwester | tuxi: The wiki is WRONG. It has been for a long long time, yet nobody fixes it. I tried once, and someone added more text that just made it even more confusing. |
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| 19:42.11 | gena2x | So, at least is good to white in head of wiki "I am wrong, fixme" |
| 19:42.18 | tuxi | -_- well so theres no good communication about the wiki |
| 19:42.25 | mwester | henk: You can use NOR and NAND u-boots interchangeably ONLY if it is the case that the two u-boots are IDENTICAL. This is very seldom the case; the u-boot in NAND is most always newer than the one in NOR. |
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| 19:43.21 | tuxi | hell how do i power off the neo in kernel panic? |
| 19:43.50 | nio_ | hold the power button for ten or so seconds |
| 19:44.02 | henk | mwester: that doesn't answer the question, does it? |
| 19:44.07 | vininim | okay, giving fdom a try. |
| 19:44.11 | mwester | When Om selected the version of u-boot to burn into NOR at the factory, it was selected with the criteria that it must be functional enough to flash a new u-boot to NAND -- anything beyond that was less important. So if you have any problems (bugs, changes, etc), ONLY the u-boot in NAND will have the fixes. |
| 19:44.26 | mwester | henk: I think it answers the quesiton quite well? What part do you not understand? |
| 19:44.31 | henk | mwester: ah that does it :) |
| 19:44.40 | henk | i'm just too impatient, sorry :) |
| 19:45.01 | mwester | tuxi: pull the battery. |
| 19:45.33 | henk | mwester: how about qi? how does it compare to uboot regarding such bugs? |
| 19:46.35 | mwester | :-) Right now, Qi does not compare well, as it is not as functional as it needs to be! |
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| 19:47.34 | mwester | Qi works (bumbl found the reason it sometimes won't power up the phone -- you have to remove the SIM card (!!!!))... but it would be only suited for those who really want to play with the advanced (somewhat buggy and incomplete) stuff. |
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| 19:47.42 | mwester | Qi is a lot faster, though.... |
| 19:50.11 | bumbl | qi rocks |
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| 19:51.22 | tuxi | O_o seems like i broke my usb port |
| 19:51.24 | SpeedEvil | Oops. |
| 19:51.29 | gena2x | On that side? |
| 19:51.47 | tuxi | ? the usb port on the right of my laptop |
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| 19:51.55 | tuxi | if i pull my neo there it will not be found |
| 19:52.14 | gena2x | just reload module |
| 19:52.19 | tuxi | i rebooted |
| 19:52.20 | tuxi | ... |
| 19:52.25 | bumbl | but if you be on the save side I would wait flashing qi |
| 19:52.35 | tuxi | lets see if my mouse works there but first lets flash |
| 19:52.52 | gena2x | gl |
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| 19:55.49 | gena2x | Is anybody here aware of the state of SD-card issue? |
| 19:56.04 | gena2x | Is something is fixed in recent kernels? |
| 19:56.16 | mwester | You'll have to be more specific on the issue you are encountering. |
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| 19:56.36 | mwester | (there have been many, and many fixes) |
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| 19:57.16 | bumbl | gena2x: I hadn't any problems with an overwritten partition table lately |
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| 20:00.42 | henk | bumbl: i'm already using it and it seemed to work fine so far. just om2008.9 won't resume and sometimes the background light in shr is fscked up in relation with suspend, but as well without it sometimes, but i doubt that has anything to do with the boot loader... |
| 20:01.38 | gena2x | Ok. I have 2Gb card - no partitions overwrite. I want to use it :). With stable kernel and no change in command-line, I can see that device ...p1 is created, so kernel succesully read partition table, but fdisk can't. Suspend off. If I add parameter glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=5000000, i can do fdisk, but after that getting same kernel errors of dd-ing block device. |
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| 20:02.22 | gena2x | My English is not the best one. Hope it is understandable. |
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| 20:03.54 | Inc_Vega | ) I have same problem |
| 20:04.10 | bumbl | henk: I don't have any problems with qi |
| 20:04.16 | bumbl | everything works perfect |
| 20:04.20 | bumbl | and is damn fast |
| 20:04.25 | Inc_Vega | Just I have 2Gb trancend card and in log I can see I/O error |
| 20:04.27 | bumbl | comparing to u-boot |
| 20:04.41 | bumbl | even suspend and resume is faster with qi |
| 20:04.47 | gena2x | I want just to ask if I have a change that this is fixed in some kernel. |
| 20:05.03 | md2k7 | I have 8 GB sdHC card and I have lowered the SD clock to like 1,3 MHz |
| 20:05.13 | gena2x | Or this issue is good candidate to try my knowledge of C :) |
| 20:05.13 | henk | bumbl: and it works without any problems? suspend and resume i mean. |
| 20:05.15 | md2k7 | still suffices for listening to mp3... not much more though |
| 20:06.15 | md2k7 | :) your knowledge of C is probably not enough for om hacking |
| 20:06.22 | md2k7 | at least mine isn't |
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| 20:06.47 | Inc_Vega | Who can help regarding I/O issue |
| 20:06.55 | tuxi | wohoo flashing worked under nand uboot |
| 20:07.04 | Inc_Vega | regarding Trancend 2Gb SD card |
| 20:07.06 | md2k7 | Inc_Vega: lower your SD clock... |
| 20:07.11 | gena2x | No change to find out except giving it a try :) |
| 20:07.21 | md2k7 | is somewhere in bugtracker |
| 20:07.24 | gena2x | s/change/chance/ |
| 20:07.29 | Inc_Vega | can you send me link to how to |
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| 20:08.25 | tuxi | and well usb port works ... |
| 20:08.30 | gena2x | apt: Sed daemon? |
| 20:08.54 | Inc_Vega | According some doc from google I need to chage ENV boot kernel |
| 20:09.03 | vininim | awesome, I just flashed half of a fdom image. |
| 20:09.27 | Inc_Vega | Is it true ? |
| 20:09.34 | md2k7 | Inc_Vega: was https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 |
| 20:09.35 | gena2x | What happens with other part? |
| 20:09.50 | Inc_Vega | 10x md2k7 |
| 20:10.14 | vininim | firefox is not good at detecting bad downloads, kernel is hang at some jffs2 warning |
| 20:10.39 | vininim | and then I checked the size, 75MB. Heh |
| 20:10.40 | bumbl | henk: s&r works flawlessly |
| 20:10.45 | bumbl | it worked today |
| 20:10.54 | bumbl | and today the moko was in heavy use |
| 20:11.00 | gena2x | mwester: I know, you have some kernels ready, can't you help me with my question? |
| 20:11.09 | bumbl | some friends of mine were really fond of openmoko eightball |
| 20:11.16 | henk | bumbl: with which distribution? |
| 20:11.25 | bumbl | in between it got suspendend and resumed quite often |
| 20:11.26 | bumbl | shr |
| 20:11.32 | bumbl | from yesterday |
| 20:11.38 | mwester | gena2x: you can try the latest stable kernels on my site -- there are no SD card patches newer than those. |
| 20:11.38 | henk | ok |
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| 20:12.05 | Fougner_ | someone awake now? :D |
| 20:12.07 | elserpiente | gentlemans, how fight with WSOD in FSO? I get tired with it |
| 20:12.14 | henk | bumbl: know anything about that backlight issue? there is a bug open in the trac |
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| 20:12.42 | mwester | elserpiente: Don't suspend, and don't let the screen blank -- only choices for fix. |
| 20:12.51 | Inc_Vega | md2k7 just quck question regarding change u-boot env. Can I use dfu-util for this issue ? |
| 20:12.52 | gena2x | mwester: That is the source of that kernels? Plain git stable or stable+something? |
| 20:13.18 | elserpiente | already don't suspend, how don't let screen back? |
| 20:13.24 | mwester | right now, there is only some debugging stuff different from the latest Om "stable" branch. |
| 20:15.41 | gena2x | mwester: So, home-build 'stable' will be similar? |
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| 20:16.41 | bumbl | henk: what backlight issu? |
| 20:16.42 | mwester | gena2x: yes |
| 20:16.54 | gena2x | mwester: Thanks. |
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| 20:21.29 | henk | bumbl: http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/136 that one. and the comment... |
| 20:21.52 | tuxi | what to do if the neo does'nt react anymore? |
| 20:22.21 | gena2x | Your port is alive? |
| 20:22.26 | tuxi | i mean pressing power doesnt work |
| 20:22.30 | elserpiente | how disable screen blank? |
| 20:22.38 | tuxi | gena2x: usb port? |
| 20:22.48 | gena2x | yes |
| 20:23.23 | tuxi | you mean the broken one or which is plugged in at the neo at the moment? |
| 20:23.24 | bumbl | henk: as I have autosuspend disabled |
| 20:23.33 | bumbl | I don't suffer from this bug |
| 20:23.36 | gena2x | yes |
| 20:23.46 | tuxi | yes??? |
| 20:23.47 | henk | ah good to know |
| 20:24.03 | gena2x | broken one :) |
| 20:24.23 | gena2x | Ok, you already answered. |
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| 20:24.48 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rc2f981e44113 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (gsm/const.py modems/freescale_neptune/mediator.py): |
| 20:24.48 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] fix PDU patterns for +CGML and +CGMR |
| 20:24.48 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: This fixes org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessagebook and |
| 20:24.48 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessage |
| 20:24.50 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r90d42d546ae7 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: ogsmd: improve standard compliance in org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.GetAuthCodeRequired() |
| 20:24.54 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r618cc1ea5376 10framework/docs/ogsmd/freescale_neptune/modem: document some new neptune quirks |
| 20:24.57 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r0f385d322734 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/mediator.py: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE] add custom mediators for org.freesmartphone.GSM.CB.[Get|Set]CellBroadcastSubscriptions |
| 20:25.05 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rbd214ae2f96c 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' |
| 20:25.20 | tuxi | but now my freerunner is dead, means i cant boot anything no bootloader nor os |
| 20:25.37 | Inc_Vega | ) |
| 20:25.42 | jonkristian | : |
| 20:25.48 | gena2x | Seem you out of luck today |
| 20:26.04 | Inc_Vega | so tuxi can you go to shop for another phone ? ) |
| 20:26.18 | gena2x | and desktop |
| 20:26.31 | Inc_Vega | wellcome to openmoko ) |
| 20:26.34 | bumbl | tuxi: remove battery and sim card |
| 20:26.37 | elserpiente | )) |
| 20:26.43 | bumbl | and wait |
| 20:26.56 | tuxi | what should happen in this state? |
| 20:26.56 | elserpiente | i throw it from window |
| 20:26.56 | gena2x | Yes. just remove usb power and battery. |
| 20:26.58 | elserpiente | )) |
| 20:27.06 | elserpiente | and* |
| 20:27.07 | elserpiente | sorry |
| 20:27.25 | gena2x | Throw it into my window please. |
| 20:27.35 | tuxi | no too far away |
| 20:27.42 | gena2x | I will do cluster. |
| 20:28.33 | tuxi | oh.. its reacting |
| 20:28.34 | tuxi | ... |
| 20:28.35 | tuxi | thanks |
| 20:28.46 | henk | bumbl: whats the difference between the .jffs2 and the .jffs2.summary image files? |
| 20:29.00 | bumbl | .summary flashes faster |
| 20:29.10 | bumbl | afaik |
| 20:29.17 | henk | hm interesting... |
| 20:29.55 | bumbl | i always use summary |
| 20:30.07 | henk | ok thanks |
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| 20:31.07 | dent | why would it flash faster? .summary is larger |
| 20:31.54 | cjb | I think it actually *mounts* faster, not flashes faster |
| 20:32.26 | md2k7 | btw: did someone actually manage to get a GPRS connection with FSO? |
| 20:32.26 | md2k7 | or SHR anyway, because that's what I have |
| 20:32.28 | Zorkman | i think the same as cjb |
| 20:32.30 | cjb | jffs'2 an odd format, you have to read the entire FS to finish ounting it properly.. |
| 20:33.08 | bumbl | at least .summary is more efficiant in some way or another |
| 20:33.41 | bumbl | dent: this does not mean that everything is flashed *it could be that the difference is used for instructions how to flash faster* |
| 20:33.53 | elserpiente | how restrict fr go to screen blank? |
| 20:35.01 | dent | bumbl: it could, but I wouldn't trust that untill you show point me to the source + mine where I can see it:)) |
| 20:35.11 | bumbl | elserpiente: illume wrench power |
| 20:35.12 | dent | I assume dfu-util doesn't interpret the data... |
| 20:35.25 | dent | s/mine/line/ |
| 20:35.27 | dent | sigh... |
| 20:35.52 | vininim | wow, fdom mirrors are kind of unstable. should make a torrent for it |
| 20:35.53 | bumbl | dent: but yes i think it was as cjb says faster mounting and not flashing |
| 20:36.02 | bumbl | anyway jfss2 sucks |
| 20:36.22 | dent | http://www.inf.u-szeged.hu/jffs2/mount.php |
| 20:36.25 | dent | yeah mounting |
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| 20:39.32 | vininim | could someone hash a fdom image? |
| 20:40.00 | vininim | err, specifically Fat_and_Dirty_OM.200809_20081023.rootfs.jffs2' |
| 20:41.21 | bumbl | hmm as openmoko wants to switch to mainline kernel |
| 20:41.34 | bumbl | a switch to ubifs might be a good choice |
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| 20:44.28 | gena2x | Give me that mainline kernel to switch to. |
| 20:46.11 | vininim | Why ubifs and not logfs? |
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| 20:47.19 | bumbl | gena2x: you will find builds somewhere @ people.openmoko.org |
| 20:47.48 | gena2x | bumbl: _Working_ builds? |
| 20:47.52 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r3a6dbaf92717 10framework/tests/org.freesmartphone.GSM.py: tests: org.freesmartphone.GSM.CB.[Get|Set]CellBroadcastSubscriptions done |
| 20:48.07 | bumbl | i think yes |
| 20:48.50 | Inc_Vega | where is man who can help me wiht SD issue |
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| 20:54.54 | mwester | Inc_Vega: just describe your problem, and ask your question -- if someone can help, they will respond. |
| 20:55.18 | henkie_ | hi, are there already ppl who can call without an echo? |
| 20:55.26 | elserpiente | is it possible boot via qi from nand? |
| 20:55.30 | henkie_ | (on both sides that is) |
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| 20:55.53 | gena2x | Is where any live on Mars? |
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| 20:56.13 | Fougner_ | gena2x, I live there, so yes |
| 20:56.49 | gena2x | Fougner_: Ok, thanks, this solves my problem. |
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| 20:57.17 | Fougner_ | tihi |
| 20:57.18 | Fougner_ | yeah |
| 20:58.12 | henk | what settings panel should i use in shr? the one in the shelf from illume (i guess), or the application? |
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| 21:00.01 | mwester | elserpiente: yes, you can flash qi in place of u-boot in NAND on the FR. (but don't do that on the neo!) |
| 21:01.12 | elserpiente | why? |
| 21:02.07 | mwester | The neo does not have u-boot in NOR, so if something goes wrong it will be a brick. The FR (gta02) is designed to be recoverable even if NAND is corrupted or bad. |
| 21:02.43 | elserpiente | i have FR |
| 21:03.14 | mwester | Then the worst that can happen is that you will have to remove the SIM card, and boot to NOR to repair Qi or to put u-boot back into NAND. |
| 21:03.17 | pb_ | mwester: what are the intended advantages of qi compared to u-boot? |
| 21:04.06 | mwester | pb_: for users - faster. for developers, less work as they won't have to deal with a complicated boot-loader with all the drivers it needs. |
| 21:05.30 | pb_ | ah right, very good |
| 21:05.34 | pb_ | yeah, u-boot is annoyingly slow |
| 21:05.44 | elserpiente | just flashed qi but u-boot still appears in NAND menu |
| 21:06.08 | elserpiente | how it can be? |
| 21:06.26 | elserpiente | oh sorry just noticed error |
| 21:07.12 | elserpiente | state(10) = dfuERROR, status(1) = File is not targeted for use by this device |
| 21:09.27 | pb_ | what file exactly did you try to flash? |
| 21:09.38 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r766b0e2d5b66 10/tests/org.freesmartphone.GSM.py: Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' |
| 21:09.56 | elserpiente | qi-s3c2410-andy_*.udf |
| 21:10.16 | pb_ | I don't think that's the right one for freerunner. |
| 21:10.43 | elserpiente | guess too. which i shoul flash |
| 21:10.48 | elserpiente | should* |
| 21:11.19 | pb_ | presumably the one that mentions the s3c2442 |
| 21:11.22 | pb_ | that's the cpu in FR, right? |
| 21:11.57 | pb_ | s3c2410 would be for gta01 |
| 21:12.36 | elserpiente | will try 2442 |
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| 21:14.14 | elserpiente | pb_ : thanks, you was right |
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| 21:16.37 | pb_ | it does seem a bit odd that andy is bothering to build s3c2410 images, given that using qi on gta01 seems to be disrecommended, but I guess he has his reasons. |
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| 21:19.41 | disco-sorcerer | hello, i've compiled stable-tracking, and uboot complains about bad crc, should i use qi or is it something else? |
| 21:23.14 | mwester-laptop | disco-sorcerer: if u-boot complains, then the kernel is corrupted, or you are not flashing the correct file. |
| 21:23.17 | henk | hm in shr everything in the settings panel is 'unknown'. what is that? |
| 21:24.03 | disco-sorcerer | mwester-laptop: since i compiled it myself it's probably the former |
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| 21:27.55 | Dave | Mwester |
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| 21:31.29 | vininim_ | pig is booting! |
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| 21:35.17 | vininim_ | ok, the dancing green block is kind of lame =P |
| 21:37.30 | disco-sorcerer | hm i've compiled my kernel by-the-book :) , and uboot still complains of crc errors, any ideas as to what i might be doing wroing |
| 21:38.39 | tuxi | is 2008.9 that buggy that it crashes every 5 minutes or is there any patch i should apply first? |
| 21:39.57 | tuxi | i mean i can't get it back if its in sleep mode |
| 21:41.12 | Inc_Vega | after update # cat /proc/cmdline |
| 21:41.14 | Inc_Vega | glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=10000000 |
| 21:41.32 | Inc_Vega | still problem with 2Gb SD card |
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| 21:42.00 | Inc_Vega | : glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x20 |
| 21:42.00 | Inc_Vega | Dec 8 23:54:49 om-gta02 user.err kernel: mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command |
| 21:42.00 | Inc_Vega | Dec 8 23:54:49 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 |
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| 21:43.33 | Inc_Vega | so ... any coments |
| 21:44.00 | swc|666 | !turkey |
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| 21:47.13 | white_gecko | hello |
| 21:47.44 | white_gecko | i have a problem with the linking in the toolchain |
| 21:48.16 | white_gecko | the linker searchs some libs in /usr/lib/ and some in /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/ |
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| 21:52.16 | tuxi | how to delete a typed character in 2008.9? |
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| 21:53.39 | lindi- | tuxi: in xterm and xvkbd you press backspace |
| 21:53.55 | tuxi | i mean in the sim pin dialog |
| 21:54.06 | tuxi | through the touchscreen keyboard |
| 21:54.19 | lindi- | tuxi: xvkbd is a touchscreen keyboard program |
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| 21:54.33 | tuxi | ah.. k is it the default one= |
| 21:54.51 | lindi- | tuxi: i doubt it |
| 21:55.18 | tuxi | and where the heck is there an backspace key |
| 21:56.20 | lindi- | tuxi: where's the source code of your touchreen keyboard program? i'm sure it can be found by just searching for "backspace" in the source |
| 21:56.48 | tuxi | well perhaps but i dont know i got my neo today... dont even know where the svn is yet |
| 21:57.17 | Inc_Vega | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.17 | lindi- | Inc_Vega: not really |
| 21:58.27 | Inc_Vega | ) |
| 21:58.34 | Inc_Vega | so lucky |
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| 22:03.30 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4832 10/developers/werner/myroot/myroot: |
| 22:03.30 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot/myroot: auto-detect if opkg-cl supports --cache and try to find the |
| 22:03.30 | CIA-24 | openmoko: cache directory |
| 22:03.30 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot/myroot: use opkg's new --cache option |
| 22:04.43 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4833 10/developers/werner/myroot2/ (. myroot werner.init werner.myroot): Branch of myroot/ for conversion to rootfs-builder. |
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| 22:11.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4834 10/developers/werner/myroot2/ (myroot werner.myroot): (log message trimmed) |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot2/myroot: retrieve rootfs-builder from gta03-test-suite.git |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot2/myroot: replace "opkg" with "rbld" |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot2/myroot: instead of populating /dev, use rbld --device-minimal |
| 22:11.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: (still need to get rid of udev start or this doesn't really help) |
| 22:12.00 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot2/myroot: rbld creates /dev/, /etc/ and /usr/lib/opkg for us |
| 22:12.02 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - myroot2/myroot: do we need opkg.conf ? Consider not installing it. |
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| 22:18.45 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4835 10/developers/werner/wlan-trial/ (. Makefile wlan-trial.init wlan-trial.myroot): Branch myroot customization for WLAN trial images. |
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| 22:29.33 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r095edae77cbc 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/unsolicited.py: |
| 22:29.33 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [FREESCALE NEPTUNE]: prepare +CESS handler and fix +CSSU handler |
| 22:29.33 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: Why's this special for the neptune? |
| 22:29.45 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rac7d1b1df1b8 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/freescale_neptune/unsolicited.py: Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' |
| 22:32.17 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03werner * r4836 10/developers/werner/wlan-trial/wlan-trial.myroot: (log message trimmed) |
| 22:32.17 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Adapt rootfs for public WLAN trial. |
| 22:32.17 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - wlan-trial.myroot: use customized init script |
| 22:32.17 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - wlan-trial.myroot: remove all the GSM, audio, X, and programming stuff |
| 22:32.18 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - wlan-trial.myroot: don't grant Werner passwordless entry to the Neos of the |
| 22:32.21 | CIA-24 | openmoko: world |
| 22:32.23 | CIA-24 | openmoko: - wlan-trial.myroot: don't globally share his hosts file either |
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| 22:39.16 | anttna | i flashed yesterday with shr081126 on my fr. TangoGPS wouldn't get a fix. I'm now flashing 081127. Anyone else have a problem with it? |
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| 22:49.30 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rafa83bf037dc 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (helpers.py modems/ti_calypso/modem.py): |
| 22:49.30 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: use proper function to kill a process. |
| 22:49.31 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: This fixes FSO ticket #260 |
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| 22:51.15 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r33cb38aceda7 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/ (helpers.py modems/ti_calypso/modem.py): |
| 22:51.15 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: Merge commit 'origin/stabilization/milestone4' |
| 22:51.15 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: Conflicts: |
| 22:51.15 | CIA-24 | freesmartphone.org: framework/subsystems/ogsmd/helpers.py |
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| 22:57.39 | vininim | heh, is fdom really receiving phone calls or people are lucky enough to only call when I'm rebooting or reflashing? |
| 22:58.27 | anttna | hi folks, flashed shr20081127 erm still no GPS fix. It worked under FDOM, I had heard shr was much better for running tangoGPS so am I doing something wrong? Do i need to activate GPS in the terminal? |
| 22:58.51 | Tig| | anttna: there was a messup |
| 22:58.59 | vininim | uh, fdom seems better overall tbh |
| 22:59.14 | Tig| | anttna: opkg remove gpds |
| 22:59.24 | sicu | *gpsd |
| 22:59.28 | Tig| | anttna: opkg install fso-gpsd |
| 22:59.28 | anttna | good its not me bad it doesn't run |
| 23:00.34 | Tig| | if you remove gpsd then install fso-gpsd it will work |
| 23:00.44 | Tig| | I have it working here :) |
| 23:01.04 | Tig| | if you have problems come back here :) |
| 23:01.31 | Tig| | ta sicu btw must not make typos when helping :) |
| 23:02.07 | sicu | and SHR isn't released yet, so there's bound to be quirks here and there, that's what the trac is for =] |
| 23:02.27 | sicu | Tig|: hehe, typos make for interesting debugging ;p |
| 23:02.51 | Tig| | sorry! |
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| 23:03.11 | Wonka | hrm. gpsd is removed, fso-gpsd is installed, frameworkd and fso-gpsd are both running. no fix. "lsof /dev/ttySAC1" returns nothing. |
| 23:03.13 | anttna | many thanks I'm just getting into this I'm sure you are answering the same questions time and time again |
| 23:03.27 | Tig| | I normally check before hitting enter but had a few beers and was trying to convey a point etc :) |
| 23:04.53 | Tig| | anttna: we are all learing here :) just don't ask a question that is in the topic message as those are the that have been answered lots :) |
| 23:06.20 | anttna | Tig|: where is the topic message? |
| 23:06.50 | Tig| | The one it should be at the top of the screen: " Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | Freerunner is in stock in some resellers. | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Quickstart | See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems | Keyboard numbers for 2008.8 : slide finger up on the keyboard" |
| 23:07.05 | anttna | gotcha |
| 23:07.46 | Tig| | a bit out of date now but SHR is a new thing and there will probably a few people around who can help you with it :) |
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| 23:09.07 | sicu | anttna: i will reflash with shr20081127 and see if i get a fix |
| 23:09.28 | anttna | i connected to the neo from my laptop when using 081126, now when I log on under 081127 I get a host key verification failed |
| 23:09.59 | sicu | ssh key ? |
| 23:09.59 | anttna | hold it i misses the error message |
| 23:10.03 | Tig| | anttna: each time you flash your phone creates a new key |
| 23:10.05 | anttna | yes sorry |
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| 23:11.04 | anttna | just a thought can the contents of a chat be saved for later? |
| 23:11.45 | Tig| | if you know you have done this then on your desktop you can just pop into /etc/known_hosts and delete teh relevant line, you will get this after each reflashing |
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| 23:13.30 | sicu | anttna: depends on your IRC client, but many of them support saving chat-logs (if that's what you meant?) |
| 23:13.53 | sicu | anttna: and if you're looking for logs for #openmoko, you can find them here: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/openmoko/ |
| 23:15.53 | anttna | sicu: i should never have doubted it :) |
| 23:17.32 | sicu | anttna: and if you flash often and want to save yourself the trouble of editing /etc/known_hosts everytime you flash, then try this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking#Changing_host_keys |
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| 23:25.21 | sicu | ok, stomping my FR into the snow now, we'll see if we get a fix in a few mins |
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| 23:36.53 | anttna | Hi again, easy sicu. I guess the known_hosts file is the encrypted, so how can I enter the new key |
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| 23:42.01 | anttna | sorry again i will rtm |
| 23:42.05 | Wonka | it is not encrypted. only the part representing the target host's IP is hashed. |
| 23:42.23 | sicu | anttna: mine isnt encrypted ... i have mine located at: ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 23:43.36 | sicu | anttna: if you just delete your old key from there, it will automatically ask you if you want to add the new one next time you try to ssh into the FR |
| 23:43.56 | lindi- | it's not encryption, just hashing |
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| 23:46.52 | sicu | anttna: btw .. i get a fix with latest SHR without any problems |
| 23:47.10 | sicu | anttna: are you trying to get a fix inside or outside ? |
| 23:50.54 | anttna | good deleted it and it worked (that was the first time I edited a file from bash) oh the shame :) sicu: who have you been talking to that knows me :D, outside:| thanks |
| 23:52.09 | sicu | anttna: haha ... just checking ;p |
| 23:53.04 | anttna | root@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg remove gpds gave the message " No packages removed " |
| 23:53.30 | sicu | anttna: so still no fix? even after you did: opkg remove gpsd; opkg update; opkg install fso-gpsd |
| 23:53.48 | sicu | anttna: gpsd NOT gpds |
| 23:54.21 | anttna | oh the shame on top of the shame |
| 23:54.57 | sicu | shame + shame nullifies the shame |
| 23:54.59 | sicu | erhm ;p |
| 23:55.21 | anttna | still No packages removed |
| 23:55.26 | anttna | ? |
| 23:55.40 | sicu | ah, that means they fixed it in latest image |
| 23:56.14 | anttna | so what now? how long should I wait for a fix~? |
| 23:56.19 | sicu | do the update and then install as i said above ... and then try again to get a fix |
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| 23:57.10 | sicu | anttna: it varies, everything between 2 mins and 40 mins has been the case for me |
| 23:57.17 | anttna | Package fso-gpsd (0.7+gitr26+898d7ae0a41df483d32ca010732d912436986fdd-r1.1) installed in root is up to date. Going out side |
| 23:57.38 | anttna | 40 mins are you serious |
| 23:57.48 | sicu | just put it in an upright position (in a cup or a shoe or whatever) and leave it there |
| 23:58.06 | sicu | anttna: and make sure you have turned off suspend ? |
| 23:58.26 | anttna | I was holding it flat screen up |
| 23:59.13 | anttna | no I hadn't suspend off does shame+shame+shame =shame? |
| 23:59.40 | sicu | ok, try standing it up instead |