| 00:01.53 | [Rui] | vininim: no white screen of death for you? |
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| 00:04.20 | vininim | [Rui]: I got a dead screen when trying to restart frameworkd but not white screen |
| 00:04.58 | vininim | my .conf is not getting into suspend mode by timeout and now power key release is not setting my triggers (even though log shows them happening) |
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| 00:06.18 | vininim | btw |
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| 00:06.25 | vininim | Hardware: GTA02 |
| 00:06.27 | vininim | Revision: 0360 |
| 00:09.31 | [Rui] | vininim: GAH! Must I be doomed? |
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| 00:15.46 | vininim | Not sure, did you also flash new kernel or just root? |
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| 00:31.52 | [Rui] | vininim: I always flash both |
| 00:32.14 | [Rui] | vininim: I'm almost convinced it's a rev < 6 defect |
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| 00:32.41 | [Rui] | just wonders if he should ask for it's v5 to be replaced :( |
| 00:32.48 | [Rui] | going to bed. good night all! |
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| 00:34.19 | vininim | night |
| 00:34.43 | vininim | also... there is something wicked about zhone turning off devices it acquires |
| 00:35.28 | vininim | *releases |
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| 00:40.10 | johngay | I'm trying to set-up my new Apple BT keyboard, but I don't have hidd on my 2007.2? |
| 00:45.45 | johngay | I wanna try qtExt-4.4.2 but I don't wanna flash and I don't have the tools to extract from jffs2 )-: |
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| 00:48.52 | slaxxin | well i tried 4.4.2 an bt didnt work for me but it did on the earlier 1 |
| 00:49.28 | slaxxin | why not flash/ |
| 00:50.07 | johngay | 'cause I've got 2007.2 set-up the way I like. I wanna keep it till I find something else I like. |
| 00:50.20 | johngay | What's a good distro for BT? |
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| 00:57.59 | sicu | [Rui]: i have revision 0350 and have no problems with suspend and resume |
| 00:58.33 | sicu | [Rui]: and never had WSoD |
| 00:59.39 | mwester | thinks [Rui] didn't check the bug tracker... the suspend/resume problem is well known; replacing the device is no guarantee that the problem will be lessened or fixed; and it is not clear that there is any correlation between revision numbers and propensity to fail. |
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| 01:08.22 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.dev * r3259e8c97254 10/ (conf/enterprise.conf packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb): enterprise: Blacklist ffmpeg and mplayer too |
| 01:08.22 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.dev * r88d8ec825aef 10/packages/gnash/ (9 files): gnash: Build without ffmpeg |
| 01:08.23 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.dev * rd32413b05254 10/conf/bitbake.conf: bitbake.conf: Disable fortify for host tool builds |
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| 01:12.33 | mokel | in 2008.9 image is /etc/resolv.conf a symlink to /var/run/resolv.conf? |
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| 01:17.48 | Dave | :) |
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| 01:23.02 | Dave | THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! |
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| 01:23.51 | slaxxin | Debian is much improved |
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| 01:36.35 | johngay | Dave! |
| 01:37.56 | johngay | How do I fix BT in 2007.2?? |
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| 01:40.01 | mwester | You'll need a necro-technician. |
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| 01:41.38 | johngay | Hey mwester! Did I tell you I'm getting an extra hour or two since upgrading 2007.2 to your kernel and modules? |
| 01:42.04 | mwester | Cool. but does that qualify as "extra life" for a zombie? |
| 01:42.09 | mwester | :p |
| 01:42.52 | johngay | Considering it was only 4-5 hours before, that's a 25% increase! |
| 01:43.32 | mwester | ooof. |
| 01:43.50 | mwester | my gta01 with qt extended will do 18 to 24 hours |
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| 01:49.58 | slaxxin | yay |
| 01:50.11 | slaxxin | u need qt extended |
| 01:50.45 | Dave | John, what's to fix? |
| 01:50.47 | slaxxin | why dont u use dfu to backup your 2007.2 onto your hd |
| 01:51.30 | Dave | why don't you just hook up your hdd up to your fr? |
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| 02:01.31 | Dave | fuck yeah, shr! |
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| 02:06.13 | vininim_ | I wonder if this is a feature or bug. |
| 02:07.18 | vininim_ | here we go again for a gps fix... |
| 02:08.22 | Dave | good luck! |
| 02:08.22 | Dave | :D |
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| 02:16.21 | johngay | I don't have hidd )-: |
| 02:17.07 | johngay | Therefore, I can't pair with my new Apple BT keybaord )-= |
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| 02:32.03 | pjz | can get like 2 days of standby using some old mwester kernel :) |
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| 02:33.10 | kd8ikt | my moko is broko |
| 02:33.37 | kd8ikt | need hidd |
| 02:33.50 | kd8ikt | still having hidd probs |
| 02:33.58 | kd8ikt | ? |
| 02:34.23 | slaxxin | shr is good |
| 02:35.06 | kd8ikt | dunno why but i though the WSOD stuff was fixed i know i have a kernel around here somewhere that kicks it |
| 02:35.25 | kd8ikt | i love its icons |
| 02:36.03 | slaxxin | kd8 do u always get the wsod error? |
| 02:36.27 | kd8ikt | pretty mutch |
| 02:36.34 | slaxxin | i never have |
| 02:36.48 | kd8ikt | i leave it alone for like 30sec+ it wakes up wsod |
| 02:36.51 | slaxxin | on any distro |
| 02:36.59 | slaxxin | ? |
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| 02:37.13 | kd8ikt | i think my hardware is craped |
| 02:37.23 | pjz | is FDOM usable as a daily phone yet? |
| 02:37.24 | slaxxin | sounds thata way |
| 02:37.34 | pjz | er, as usable as Qtopia, anyway? |
| 02:37.41 | slaxxin | haha |
| 02:37.53 | kd8ikt | maybe i can beg pulitz to hook meh up with a new pho e |
| 02:38.18 | kd8ikt | beg and plead |
| 02:38.19 | slaxxin | i think as soon as 20008.11 gets here that fdom will have yet another release i hope |
| 02:38.44 | slaxxin | woo |
| 02:38.49 | slaxxin | 2008 |
| 02:47.48 | Dave | woo. |
| 02:53.46 | slaxxin | wat ya think about shr dave |
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| 02:59.36 | esthar | So what's this about MP3 issues? |
| 02:59.40 | esthar | Where can I read about this? |
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| 03:22.05 | pjz | anylone know how to work the Qtopia Pictures app? |
| 03:22.11 | pjz | like... where to put pictures for it? |
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| 03:28.59 | pjz | anyone? anyone? |
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| 03:43.36 | mwester | pjz: mailing list has the answer... create a "Docs" or "Documents" subdir on your sd card, and put the stuff there, then force a rescan. |
| 03:44.36 | pjz | thanks - I eventually reverse engineered it by making a note via the gui and then searching for where on the filesystem it wrote it :) |
| 03:45.20 | mwester | That's creative - and I think original too! |
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| 05:09.02 | LostInspace | hello |
| 05:10.22 | slaxxin | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-A-female-to-5-pin-mini-B-Converter-Cable-Lead-Cord_W0QQitemZ310093787484QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20081021?IMSfp=TL081021116003r21780 |
| 05:10.56 | LostInspace | I have a system (no an openmoko) that uses an s3c2410...has a built in hd that uses a ata to usb controllers...since switching from 2.4.x to 2.6.x I get a similar error (error -62) when loading usb-storage and i've found a few people having same issue with openmoko in host mode? |
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| 05:25.00 | aggtrfrad | <slaxxin> http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/21/picture002vd6.jpg |
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| 05:34.58 | slaxxin | is that a neopwn |
| 05:35.02 | slaxxin | ? |
| 05:35.17 | slaxxin | adapter has cable? |
| 05:35.24 | gurugentoo | ooo shiny new zhone theme...interesting |
| 05:35.59 | slaxxin | is that the only thing that works? |
| 05:40.00 | LostInspace | hey guys gotta quick question for you |
| 05:40.56 | LostInspace | i'm working on a s3c2410 device...for usb host side (so that I can connect a usb flash stick to my device for example) can the s3c2410 use any gpio for usb?? coudl that explain why default smdk2410 is giving me error -62? |
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| 05:46.04 | aggtrfrad | yes it is, and no it has no cable, but it can switch angles, its pretty cool |
| 05:46.46 | slaxxin | whats the dongle? |
| 05:47.22 | aggtrfrad | it's an rt73 chipset based wifi card, used for monitor mode/injection |
| 05:48.27 | gurugentoo | I'm guessing th onboard wifi doesn't support that? |
| 05:48.58 | aggtrfrad | but you can connect anything you want... i also use it with a usb-to-serial converter so i can flash my satelite-box with the phone |
| 05:49.05 | slaxxin | what modle dlink is it |
| 05:49.37 | aggtrfrad | no it doesn't, and firmware is close-source |
| 05:50.24 | aggtrfrad | u can visit aircrack-ng.org and see which chipsets support monitor mode, and which models have what chipsets |
| 05:51.18 | aggtrfrad | http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=9de05899aeb42d1d991fbf99ce5f30c0 |
| 05:53.48 | gurugentoo | interesting |
| 05:54.42 | gurugentoo | I have an rt73 usb dongle as well, but it seems a bit finicky |
| 05:56.15 | LostInspace | where does one download the current openmoko kernel source? |
| 05:57.41 | aggtrfrad | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#Obtaining_the_kernel_source |
| 05:57.49 | LostInspace | thanks |
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| 06:00.33 | LostInspace | hoepfully that will help me find out why my 2.6.21 ain't detecting my usb correctly =) |
| 06:00.57 | slaxxin | maybe the grounds are backwards |
| 06:01.06 | LostInspace | ?? |
| 06:01.18 | LostInspace | this is a hacked gps took me a while to find the JTAG pin out etc etc |
| 06:01.28 | LostInspace | the 2.4.x kernel used to detect the usb to PATA chip |
| 06:01.44 | LostInspace | now it doesn't even finish detecting and gives error -62 lol |
| 06:02.34 | LostInspace | detects the 2 usb port hub then that's it lol error -62 etc |
| 06:03.13 | LostInspace | where it should get usb usb1: Product: S3C24XX OHCI it doesn't lol |
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| 06:09.38 | Torikun | On QTopia Extended, how can I play music off a SD card |
| 06:09.39 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: Ok - you were taking anti-static precautions? |
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| 06:10.05 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: and what GPS is it? |
| 06:13.19 | LostInspace | SpeedEvil a macvision |
| 06:13.26 | Torikun |  On QTopia Extended, how can I play music off a SD card |
| 06:13.37 | LostInspace | SpeedEvil yes I took ESD precautions |
| 06:13.53 | Aciid | Torikun: browse to /media/card ? |
| 06:13.58 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: 2.4 still detects the USB? |
| 06:14.02 | Torikun | Where do you browswe |
| 06:14.36 | gurugentoo | man, that default ringtone scares the crap out of me every time |
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| 06:14.43 | LostInspace | SpeedEvil can't check right now 2.4.x used a module that was on a yaffs partition on mtd....and that unfortunetly was erased by me typing bon part nifo instead of bon part info in vivi |
| 06:14.56 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: oops |
| 06:15.06 | LostInspace | i'd have to use OE to rebuild an 2.4.x kernel image with built in usb-storage to see if that helps |
| 06:15.06 | LostInspace | lol |
| 06:15.22 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: I don't happen to know what error -68 means - USB errors tend to be obscure. |
| 06:15.31 | LostInspace | SpeedEvil -62 |
| 06:15.36 | LostInspace | i believe it's a timeout |
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| 06:16.16 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: the USB portion may need enabled. Or there may be a seperate bit which controls USB voltage - the USB-PATA converter has no voltage unless it's turned on, for example. |
| 06:16.50 | LostInspace | SpeedEvil gonna be hard to figure that one out |
| 06:16.52 | SpeedEvil | LostInspace: there is what connected to the USB busses of the SOC? |
| 06:17.18 | LostInspace | AFAIK the usb host only has a ALI usb to pata controller |
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| 06:19.54 | LostInspace | mind you technically i have 3 usb port (one inside for the usb2pata controller) |
| 06:19.54 | LostInspace | 1 outside for usb devices! (usb sticks etce etc) |
| 06:19.54 | LostInspace | and a 3rd one to browse the hdd from a pc when the kernel is fully booted (using UDC i suppose) |
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| 06:19.56 | SpeedEvil | Tehre are two USB hosts |
| 06:19.56 | SpeedEvil | and one host/device controller |
| 06:19.56 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 06:19.56 | SpeedEvil | one of which can be switched to a device controller |
| 06:19.56 | SpeedEvil | AFK - bath. |
| 06:19.56 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.43 | LostInspace | yes |
| 06:21.41 | LostInspace | If i power up the device my flash stick plugged into what i believe to be a 2nd usb host port |
| 06:21.45 | LostInspace | the led flashes on |
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| 06:22.30 | LostInspace | mind you I have never plugged it in a just power usb connector so I guess this is normal or maybe not |
| 06:22.52 | LostInspace | but as far as i remembre unless the usb stick is detected the light doesn't stay on |
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| 06:23.46 | LostInspace | SpeedEvil any suggestion on if there is a special register/bit to turn on USB? |
| 06:24.37 | LostInspace | http://pastebin.com/m3320f301 <-- technically this is what I should see |
| 06:24.58 | LostInspace | but after the 2 ports are detected I don't see any of this |
| 06:27.19 | LostInspace | the weird part is that only when I load usb-storage is when I see errors |
| 06:29.27 | LostInspace | oh well time to go to bed |
| 06:29.36 | LostInspace | thanks for the info speedevil |
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| 06:43.17 | gurugentoo | are there any images that are known to have gps support? |
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| 06:44.16 | gurugentoo | it doesn't appear to work in fso 4 |
| 06:44.44 | gurugentoo | same with current SHR |
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| 07:00.08 | SpeedEvil | What do you mean by GPS support? |
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| 07:04.07 | slaxxin | same here |
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| 07:05.15 | slaxxin | shr -gps dont work out of the box |
| 07:07.35 | mwester | mickey|zzZZzz: GTA01 updated kernel with GPS/SD card fixes and a GTA01 battery class driver: http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels (Sources at http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/openmoko-kernel/knife-kernel.git?a=commit;h=4bad04eed1999b08090a395cc67da33b54bb38c6) |
| 07:08.42 | mwester | mickey|zzZZzz: Sources for the GPS/SD patches: http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/openmoko-kernel/knife-kernel.git?a=commit;h=a83f4719a438b3127da6cde243111193fbf767f9 and http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/openmoko-kernel/knife-kernel.git?a=commit;h=65b8d276d4f35262a721f66e08bf347ff4029c54 |
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| 07:15.37 | CM_work | mwester: Nice :) |
| 07:15.50 | gurugentoo | mwester: this is different than the kernel installed by opkg on fso 4? |
| 07:16.02 | SpeedEvil | mwester: does it make any difference at all? (to GPS) |
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| 07:24.08 | mwester | SpeedEvil: it certainly seem to for me. |
| 07:24.18 | mwester | gurugentoo: yes |
| 07:24.18 | SpeedEvil | from what to what? |
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| 07:24.55 | gurugentoo | I'm trying the "stable" |
| 07:25.34 | mwester | SpeedEvil: I don't know how to measure anything specific; but during testing it managed to get a fix while lying on my desk... which has never happened before. |
| 07:25.41 | SpeedEvil | mwester: k |
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| 07:26.14 | SpeedEvil | mew: if you have logs, I found the average of the GPGSVs dbs to be useful. |
| 07:26.53 | SpeedEvil | I would here post a script, but I have to unscrew the floor and get my GTA01 out. |
| 07:27.03 | mwester | rebooting with the sd card clock running all the time resulted in no fix... but that's as far as I went with testing. I need someone with time and equipment to do that, I think. Should be many in the community who can do that. |
| 07:27.22 | mwester | unscrew the floor? |
| 07:27.31 | SpeedEvil | I'm working on insulating my walls. |
| 07:27.41 | SpeedEvil | I placed it on the windowsill to get a fix before going out. |
| 07:27.57 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r54472a2e7b6b 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/mediator.py: |
| 07:27.57 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] send %CBHZ if told to listen for home zone channel broadcasts |
| 07:27.57 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: NOTE: Does not survive a suspend/resume cycle yet. Need to enhance the channel's |
| 07:27.57 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: suspend/resume command handling a bit beforehand (allow sending a callable |
| 07:27.59 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: in addition to a static string). |
| 07:28.00 | SpeedEvil | It fell down behind the insulation, and is now under teh floor. |
| 07:28.15 | mwester | Ouch. |
| 07:29.01 | mwester | That'll hurt the battery. |
| 07:29.26 | mickey|ICE972 | what? |
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| 07:31.04 | mwester | Good morning, mickey|ICE972 |
| 07:31.09 | mickey|ICE972 | hugs Neo's GPRS |
| 07:31.29 | mickey|ICE972 | morning mwester |
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| 07:33.16 | mwester | notes that, according to the tourist site google sent him to, mickey|ICE972 is going to the zoo. |
| 07:33.28 | mickey|ICE972 | hahah |
| 07:33.41 | mickey|ICE972 | travelling to Braunschweig for FSO meeting |
| 07:35.04 | mwester | I just posted a few URLs for you on this channel, a few minutes before you dropped in. |
| 07:36.48 | mickey|ICE972 | will get them when I login from home |
| 07:36.58 | mickey|ICE972 | alternatively you could repost 'em :) |
| 07:37.32 | mwester | ;) I'm not sure what you would do with them on the train, so travel safely and have a good meeting... |
| 07:37.52 | mickey|ICE972 | thanks :) |
| 07:38.10 | mickey|ICE972 | two more hours |
| 07:38.12 | mwester | The GTA01 battery class driver patch, and urls to the two GTA01 GPS/SD card patches. |
| 07:39.24 | mickey|ICE972 | whew! |
| 07:39.25 | mickey|ICE972 | good news |
| 07:40.07 | mwester | Must get some sleep now, back in the morning. |
| 07:40.16 | mickey|ICE972 | minus the power leaks 01 should almost be usable now, right? |
| 07:40.28 | mickey|ICE972 | ok, good night, sleep well |
| 07:40.31 | mwester | very much. In fact, I think it's more stable than the 02. |
| 07:40.58 | mickey|ICE972 | *nod* ~lart glamo |
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| 07:50.49 | gurugentoo | never got a gps lock :-/, it must be something with fso |
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| 08:30.13 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r323 10/trunk/python-elementary/ (TODO elementary/elementary.c_elementary.pyx tests/test01.py): Add canvas support |
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| 08:34.45 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:35.05 | [Rui] | mwester: I didn't find a bug about the white screen of death that had a description equivalent to what I registered. |
| 08:35.14 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis * r324 10/trunk/python-elementary/setup.py: Fix setup.py |
| 08:35.50 | [Rui] | mwester: I still place my bets in the damned graphics card driver |
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| 09:33.18 | henk | how do i tell if a package will work fine with Om2008.9? there are a hell of a lot of packages in opkg list and some of the opmoko-* applications seem to be made for matchbox versions, but Om2008.9 uses Enlightenment, doesn't it? |
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| 09:35.19 | mbuf | what do I need to unscrew to connect the debug board v3 to FreeRunner? is there any documentation/pictures? |
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| 09:39.37 | mbuf | sees http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo1973 |
| 09:39.50 | mbuf | and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Connecting_Neo_1973_with_Debug_Board_v2 |
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| 10:22.56 | mmu_man | mp3 sux... |
| 10:25.16 | mmu_man | couldn't it just put a warning "Software patents are illegal here, you may have other regulation in your country and have to pay MPEGLA some patent taxes, complain to your local MP to have those stupid laws removed" ? |
| 10:25.19 | mmu_man | :) |
| 10:26.16 | lindi- | mmu_man: illegal? |
| 10:26.33 | mmu_man | lindi- they are in europe |
| 10:26.39 | lindi- | mmu_man: you mean not valid? |
| 10:26.41 | mmu_man | and probably other countries |
| 10:26.44 | mmu_man | indeed |
| 10:26.59 | mmu_man | (that doesn't stop the EU patent office to grant many though) |
| 10:27.04 | mmu_man | (knowingly) |
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| 10:27.48 | mmu_man | http://ec.europa.eu/research/headlines/news/article_05_07_20_en.html |
| 10:28.42 | mmu_man | some US companies (need names ?) have been pushing the bill through the Windows(tm) after it's been rejected at the door, but we are holding |
| 10:28.56 | mmu_man | and it seems the openmoko servers are located in germany, so... |
| 10:30.49 | mmu_man | hopefully some ppl in US are discovering how evil they are and trying to get them down |
| 10:31.41 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03julian_chu * r4783 10/trunk/src/target/themes/illume-theme-asu/misc-data/asu/freerunner.edc: Hiding the name of GSM network operator in illume slipshelf as Sean's request |
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| 11:08.28 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03charlie * r4784 10/developers/charlie/Wiki/ (9 files): Updated personal wiki |
| 11:16.48 | SpeedEvil | Does anyone happen to have an iphone-3g? |
| 11:17.02 | SpeedEvil | I'm asking as I've been editing on the a-gps page for a while on wikipedia, and someone just commented that it can't fallback to non agps |
| 11:17.29 | SpeedEvil | This seems ratehr unlikely, as it's based on the hammerhead chip - same as GTA01 |
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| 12:31.50 | Dave | møø |
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| 12:49.11 | gfather | hello guys |
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| 12:49.49 | gfather | what devices other than neo support openmeko |
| 12:51.13 | gfather | *openmoko |
| 12:57.34 | SpeedEvil | Pretty much none. |
| 12:57.45 | SpeedEvil | It's quite arguable if it's even supported on the neo :/ |
| 12:57.49 | SpeedEvil | Though it's improving. |
| 12:58.08 | SpeedEvil | At the moment, there is essentially no work officially being done on other platforms. |
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| 13:11.36 | zoobab | hi |
| 13:11.56 | zoobab | which part of the source code sisvel is going after? |
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| 13:18.20 | XorA | zoobab: mp3 decoding |
| 13:19.20 | Dave | rut roh! |
| 13:20.24 | pb__ | XorA: you don't actually ship an mp3 decoder, though, right? |
| 13:20.55 | XorA | pb__: no |
| 13:21.10 | pb__ | so, hopefully you have nothing to worry about :-} |
| 13:21.26 | XorA | pb__: seems the germans just cant control their own government |
| 13:21.45 | pb__ | ah, that old problem |
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| 13:22.13 | pb__ | sisvel are indeed a nuisance |
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| 13:28.23 | emacsen | Anyone from France online at the moment? |
| 13:28.55 | gromez | emacsen: yes |
| 13:29.25 | emacsen | gromez, So I'm gonna be in Paris for about a week, I'm bringing my phone. Is there a good (ie cheap) way to get a SIM card for my stay? |
| 13:30.24 | gromez | emacsen: there's some prepaid card for about 15⬠|
| 13:30.27 | Dave | Mwester - have you looked at #1841 ? |
| 13:30.46 | Dave | and xora, yes, pesky germans. |
| 13:32.03 | Dave | Man, you should jump on this, Joerg! |
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| 13:33.15 | Dave | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035490.html |
| 13:35.56 | laen | Dave! |
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| 13:38.52 | Dave | haha, fuck you, openmoko |
| 13:38.54 | Zorkman | lo everyone |
| 13:38.58 | Zorkman | i have a stupd question |
| 13:39.08 | Zorkman | how do i powerdown wifi (using fso ms4) |
| 13:39.13 | Zorkman | ifdown eth0 doesn't work |
| 13:39.13 | Dave | Xora, once again, it sucks that many wiki entries are now invalidated due to this "releases" catastrophe. |
| 13:39.19 | Zorkman | DAVEOID |
| 13:39.25 | Dave | "doesn't work" ? |
| 13:39.27 | Dave | ELABORATE |
| 13:39.38 | Dave | ifconfig eth0 down //what doesn't work with this? |
| 13:39.55 | Dave | power down the hardware device? :D |
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| 13:41.47 | sicu | ifconfig eth0 die_painfully_and_be_loud_about_it |
| 13:41.56 | Zorkman | :D |
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| 13:42.13 | sicu | DAVE! |
| 13:42.25 | Zorkman | it's an offtopic party in here :) |
| 13:42.31 | sicu | =] |
| 13:42.54 | Zorkman | lpaying xwlogical on fr at the moment |
| 13:43.41 | sicu | nice =] |
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| 13:44.21 | sicu | sigh, if only dave could finish the android keyboard already |
| 13:44.35 | sicu | it would be the solution to all our problems |
| 13:45.34 | smhar | are the freerunner distros similar to linux distros in regards to data structures? for instances do all the freerunner distros use the same database structure for storing contact addresses? |
| 13:45.37 | Dave | zorkman, yeah I just downloaded that - how is it? |
| 13:45.39 | Dave | what is it? :p |
| 13:45.48 | Dave | sicu - quiet you! :P |
| 13:45.49 | SpeedEvil | smhar: no |
| 13:46.04 | sicu | Dave: lazy lulu would be grateful u know |
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| 13:46.46 | Zorkman | it's playing with balls |
| 13:46.48 | sicu | store zeh kontakts on zeh sim |
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| 13:49.33 | laen | Dave! |
| 13:50.00 | Dave | :p |
| 13:50.03 | Zorkman | how can i check if wifi isn't drawing power anymore? |
| 13:50.06 | Dave | Yes, hi, I see you there laen :] |
| 13:50.12 | Dave | gives laen a cookie |
| 13:50.14 | Zorkman | chaking that ass |
| 13:50.17 | Zorkman | *sh |
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| 13:50.23 | Dave | Zorkman, dude, disconnect the antenna? |
| 13:50.26 | Dave | :D |
| 13:50.29 | Zorkman | :) |
| 13:50.31 | Zorkman | no seriously |
| 13:50.31 | ajuonline | lol |
| 13:50.46 | Zorkman | because this fso thing returns blank lines when i apm it |
| 13:50.46 | Dave | rip that bitch off the board, yo! |
| 13:50.51 | Dave | I see... |
| 13:50.58 | Dave | MYSTERIOUS WIFI |
| 13:51.02 | Dave | ¬_¬ |
| 13:51.09 | Dave | Drawing power, it should not. |
| 13:51.10 | Zorkman | people ,reeport that even with ifconfig eth0 down it still drains battery |
| 13:51.15 | Dave | Yet draw power, it does. |
| 13:51.17 | henk | what packages does the Om2008.9 installer (started by the bottom panel in the display) display? it's a lot less than what opkg list returns. what filter is used there? |
| 13:51.18 | Zorkman | iwconfig eth0 power on txpower off is a way to minimise it |
| 13:51.40 | Dave | right, that makes sense |
| 13:51.49 | Dave | Man, we didn't have this problem on 2007, did we? |
| 13:51.49 | SpeedEvil | txpower is a small component of total power |
| 13:52.03 | Zorkman | yeah but how to cut off power to wifi completely? |
| 13:52.14 | SpeedEvil | wiresnips |
| 13:52.43 | Zorkman | ist here an equivalent of echo 0 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron |
| 13:52.53 | Dave | speedevil, will a 16GB µSD work on a GTA02v5? |
| 13:53.00 | Dave | (once booted) |
| 13:53.01 | Zorkman | dave: somebody reported it does |
| 13:53.05 | Dave | hrm |
| 13:53.06 | SpeedEvil | Dave: no idea |
| 13:53.12 | Dave | Damn |
| 13:53.15 | SpeedEvil | Dave: I expect it should |
| 13:53.20 | SpeedEvil | Dave: I have no 02 |
| 13:53.33 | Dave | I suspect it may not, didn't I need the hardware upgrade? |
| 13:53.36 | Dave | (modification) |
| 13:53.53 | SpeedEvil | I would see no sane hardware reason for any size of microSD not to work. |
| 13:54.04 | SpeedEvil | Even >32G - when they release the patch to the strandead |
| 13:54.05 | Dave | It's funny how most of the freerunner hw problems can be solved by, "throw a bigger cap on it!" |
| 13:54.29 | Zorkman | dave: mailing lsit with topic Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success] |
| 13:54.31 | Dave | (in the end) |
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| 13:56.09 | Dave | How come we still have this line on the top of the SD card wiki page then? --> "The Neo FreeRunner supports up to 8GB SDHC cards." |
| 13:56.37 | ajuonline | the 512 Mb i got .. doesnt get detected with the fso ms4 i am running. |
| 13:56.37 | Cervajz | Hello, please help me. I restarted my NFR and now it has only black screen :( |
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| 13:57.17 | Dave | Cervajz, a white blank screen? |
| 13:57.20 | Cervajz | I have been working last 3 hours on it and now everything is gone |
| 13:57.26 | SpeedEvil | smacks dave with the a large fish with 'It's a wiki, it's supposed to be outdated' written in lava on it. |
| 13:57.32 | pooze | where can I find some more or less recent version of 2008.x ? |
| 13:57.39 | pooze | I find some dead-links on the wiki pages. |
| 13:57.44 | Cervajz | Dave: No, it's black screen. And the leds are lighting |
| 13:57.46 | Dave | o_O |
| 13:57.59 | pooze | like here ? http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/ |
| 13:58.08 | Dave | Cervajz, ah, it probably went to sleep, but will never wake up. |
| 13:58.23 | pooze | what's in the daily builds? |
| 13:58.36 | Dave | pooze, older releases are gone temporarily or forever, due to the licensing issue. |
| 13:58.38 | pooze | just enough to boot the phone? no phone apps? |
| 13:58.41 | Cervajz | Dave: Ha! It's working now! |
| 13:58.51 | SpeedEvil | licensing issue? |
| 13:58.55 | Cervajz | Dave: it's problem of startup screen |
| 13:59.18 | Cervajz | Dave: I have wrong xsplash-vga.ppm probably |
| 13:59.26 | Zorkman | SpeedEvil: mp3 licensing, read all about that boring stuff on mailing list |
| 13:59.30 | pooze | Dave: what about the daily builds then? does it include phone apps? or what would I need to install additionally? |
| 14:00.07 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 14:00.11 | Cervajz | Dave: I'm sorry for annoying |
| 14:00.41 | ajuonline | isnt mp3 open source ;) |
| 14:00.43 | ajuonline | runs |
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| 14:01.38 | pooze | so what's the suggested way of getting an OM2008 image then? |
| 14:01.45 | pooze | or... rather a tar actually |
| 14:02.02 | Zorkman | wtf |
| 14:02.08 | Zorkman | my openmoko-calucaltor pictogram |
| 14:02.13 | Zorkman | has transformed into a battery icon |
| 14:02.17 | Zorkman | and it's animated |
| 14:02.34 | Zorkman | some weird shit going on here |
| 14:03.11 | Zorkman | also: how come openmoko stil has a calculator that can't do simlple calculations |
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| 14:03.27 | Zorkman | try 6-3*2 on openmoko-calculator and it will give you 6 |
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| 14:03.55 | Cervajz | Do you know how can I refresh screen? When I change direction of display (xrandr -o 1), the screen has black borders. |
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| 14:04.07 | Daramarak | Zorkman: That is hillarious! |
| 14:04.25 | gromgull | i take it noone here either knows anything about making icons appear in illume on debian? |
| 14:05.26 | pooze | Zorkman: how does the calculator work? Does it display the entire calculation, then calculates the whole thing when you press equal? or does it calculate only two numbers at a time? |
| 14:05.49 | pooze | if the latter is the case, then I would say 6- 3 is actually 3, and that multiplied by 2 is indeed 6. |
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| 14:06.46 | pooze | but you could just download the x48 thing though. to get a real calculator. ;) |
| 14:08.09 | Cervajz | One more question - Does numptyphysics works for you? |
| 14:08.18 | pooze | anyway.. could anybody guide me into how to get a clean 2008 image? |
| 14:09.40 | Daramarak | nah for me Carvajz |
| 14:09.45 | pooze | like... a link to somewhere on the wiki or somewhere with an image (since what I could find on the wiki was dead links), or a list of applications I would need to install using the daily builds? |
| 14:09.48 | Daramarak | or Cervajz |
| 14:09.58 | Daramarak | pooze, I have the 2008.9 images |
| 14:10.13 | Cervajz | Daramarak: Excuse me, but what means "nah" ? :) |
| 14:10.27 | Dave | zorkman, what's wrong with that? |
| 14:10.34 | Daramarak | nah is a very lax form of no |
| 14:10.55 | pooze | Daramarak: you know where to get it from the web? or you got it before the mp3-thingy started? |
| 14:10.57 | Dave | zorkman, it works fine |
| 14:11.07 | Daramarak | pooze: Yes |
| 14:11.13 | Dave | We all have images saved locally before the mp3 scandal. |
| 14:11.15 | Dave | :P |
| 14:11.16 | pooze | Daramarak: yes to what? ;) |
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| 14:11.36 | Daramarak | pooze: I got them before the mp3 thingy started |
| 14:11.54 | pooze | Daramarak: mmh... :-/ |
| 14:12.15 | pooze | anybody knows anything about how long it will take for some images to appear online again? |
| 14:12.19 | Daramarak | Is there any place to host such files? |
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| 14:13.23 | Cervajz | I can give a space on my server |
| 14:13.36 | laen | Does anyone have the news on it? |
| 14:13.43 | laen | Website, or something. |
| 14:13.45 | Cervajz | But I have only 1Mb/s upload (from server) |
| 14:13.48 | pooze | Daramarak: you have the tar btw? or the jffs2 ? |
| 14:13.49 | laen | I mean.. DAVE! :D |
| 14:14.53 | Daramarak | All files that was hosted on the 2008.9, I downloaded all. |
| 14:15.39 | Dave | What what |
| 14:15.50 | Daramarak | Give me a ftp host and ill upload |
| 14:16.08 | Dave | Direct my wrath. |
| 14:16.31 | pooze | hmm.. thanks.. |
| 14:16.37 | pooze | not that I have access to any ftp though. |
| 14:16.44 | Cervajz | Daramarak: Do you want mine? |
| 14:16.47 | pooze | let me think. |
| 14:17.09 | pooze | Cervajz: that would be cool |
| 14:17.31 | Cervajz | But, As i told - I have only 1Mb/s upload |
| 14:17.48 | pooze | would take a few minutes then. |
| 14:18.05 | Cervajz | Wait a moment |
| 14:18.10 | Cervajz | I will create an user |
| 14:18.17 | pooze | I'm at work, so no hurry for me... depends on Daramarak. ;) |
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| 14:20.10 | pooze | I'm stuck with a settings app that doesn't start. :( |
| 14:20.29 | pooze | which means I can't change the setting for auto-suspend. |
| 14:20.55 | pooze | and I have a small script that throws an xmessage in my face every 20 seconds, reminding me to touch the screen of the phone to be able to stay connected via ssh. :( |
| 14:21.29 | SpeedEvil | pooze: does putting an apple on the phone screen work? |
| 14:21.30 | pooze | god, I hate that shit. :-P |
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| 14:21.42 | pooze | SpeedEvil: hmm... good question |
| 14:21.55 | pooze | depends on if it reacts on pressure, or change of pressure. |
| 14:22.01 | pooze | I'll try to put something on it to see. |
| 14:22.10 | SpeedEvil | a weight will trigger the touchscreen |
| 14:22.23 | SpeedEvil | if the suspend only looks at edges is another question |
| 14:23.05 | Cervajz | Ok, here is access |
| 14:23.10 | Cervajz | Server: cervajz.com |
| 14:23.16 | Cervajz | User: neo |
| 14:23.20 | Cervajz | Pass: openmoko |
| 14:23.34 | pooze | SpeedEvil: I put my lighter on it... now it suspended :( |
| 14:23.49 | Cervajz | Address for downloading thru http is: http://download.cervajz.com/om/<file name> |
| 14:23.52 | Dave | Speedevil, why have you never obtained a freerunner, this still puzzles me. |
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| 14:23.59 | SpeedEvil | Dave: I have no idea. |
| 14:24.09 | Dave | Unless your position is, I didn't want to waste the money. |
| 14:24.15 | Dave | You have no idea? |
| 14:24.15 | SpeedEvil | Dave: I have no cash to buy one as I barely did for the neo. |
| 14:24.28 | SpeedEvil | I'm currently on a very small disability allowance from the government. |
| 14:24.32 | Dave | So if you had the money, would you have? |
| 14:24.35 | Dave | Aha |
| 14:24.44 | SpeedEvil | I'm only able to do productive stuff a very small fraction of the time. |
| 14:24.49 | Daramarak | Cervajz: Ill use your ftp if i may. |
| 14:25.01 | pooze | Cervajz: Thanks.. ;) |
| 14:25.03 | Cervajz | Daramarak: Yes, you can ;) |
| 14:25.05 | Dave | speedevil, and the other part of the time? |
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| 14:25.14 | SpeedEvil | Dave: just existing. |
| 14:25.21 | Dave | not doing anything? :( |
| 14:25.40 | SpeedEvil | Dave: lurking on IRC, not doing anything physical or mental really. |
| 14:25.45 | Dave | aw |
| 14:25.49 | pooze | Ok, i'll be off for 10 minutes.. I'll try to catch up with the log when I'm back. |
| 14:25.50 | Cervajz | I have some root images too (2008.9, Qtopia, 2007, android) but on my notebook. I can put them on to the server at night |
| 14:26.04 | pooze | Daramarak: tell me how it's going with the upload.. and thanks for the effort. |
| 14:26.09 | Cervajz | (now i'm in work) |
| 14:26.12 | pooze | I need the .tar and the kernel btw.. |
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| 14:28.48 | Dave | haha... libmatthew |
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| 14:32.22 | Daramarak | Ok, it is on its way up |
| 14:32.42 | Daramarak | pooze: want kernel too? |
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| 14:33.10 | Daramarak | ill take that afterwards |
| 14:35.49 | pooze | Daramarak: actually I don't think I need the kernel. |
| 14:36.44 | Daramarak | Perhaps ill just upload it anyhow, so there is an full image available online |
| 14:37.44 | Cervajz | You can browse files - http://download.cervajz.com/om/ |
| 14:37.52 | Cervajz | (.htaccess) |
| 14:37.58 | Dave | heh |
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| 14:38.05 | Cervajz | I uploaded a kernel and splash |
| 14:38.28 | Dave | What, no 20080927? |
| 14:38.35 | Daramarak | It is on its way |
| 14:38.38 | Dave | I heard that was the best one. |
| 14:39.02 | pooze | what's a splash btw? |
| 14:39.07 | pooze | just the boot-up splash-screen? |
| 14:39.13 | Daramarak | yep |
| 14:39.16 | Dave | :p |
| 14:39.19 | Dave | fucking boots... :P |
| 14:39.22 | pooze | hmm... don't really need that.. ;) |
| 14:39.26 | Dave | we hateses them |
| 14:39.28 | pooze | I have my own boots. |
| 14:39.32 | NineX | http://1percent.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/apple_infection-1.jpg |
| 14:39.35 | Cervajz | Now dfu-util |
| 14:43.01 | Dave | While we're at it, I should setup my own repo :p |
| 14:43.10 | Daramarak | all up! |
| 14:43.42 | Dave | ¬_¬ |
| 14:44.13 | Cervajz | I;m uploading jffs2 |
| 14:44.13 | Dave | We should set up a community archive for images, if om is going to continually fuck us. |
| 14:44.38 | mmu_man | ugh |
| 14:44.51 | mmu_man | turns up the oven to put all those apples in a tatin pie |
| 14:45.15 | mmu_man | I think the few PC users might have felt quite alone |
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| 14:53.19 | pooze | Daramarak and Cervajz: thanks... downloading now. |
| 14:53.50 | Cervajz | pooze: You're welcome |
| 14:54.08 | Cervajz | Do you have any nice icon for Doom? :) |
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| 14:56.05 | Daramarak | NoProblem pooze |
| 14:58.28 | SpeedEvil | passes Cervajz a cacodemon. |
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| 14:59.24 | SpeedEvil | http://ultravioletbat.deviantart.com/art/A-Cacodemon-Christmas-26777868 |
| 14:59.26 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 15:00.54 | SpeedEvil | http://philgullett.deviantart.com/art/Cacodemon-2851723 genius. |
| 15:01.42 | Cervajz | SpeedEvil: Nice ;) |
| 15:02.27 | SpeedEvil | (neither mine alas) |
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| 15:07.51 | Zorkman | Cervajz: the doom ipk has an icon |
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| 15:08.53 | alephnull | Is there a way to send an SMS on milestone4 ? |
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| 15:13.00 | pjz | is there a pointer to 'common fixups' or somesuch for Qt Extended? I need the sound defs |
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| 15:14.23 | Cervajz | Zorkman: yes, but In my opinion it's not nice (bacause of black background) |
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| 15:18.50 | pjz | where's the sound settings file that always needs tweaking? |
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| 15:22.56 | DocScrutinizer2 | pjz: /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/* |
| 15:23.38 | DocScrutinizer2 | pjz: mainly gsmhandset.state there |
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| 15:26.39 | pjz | DocScrutinizer2: thanks. is there a wikipage on good settings for it? |
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| 15:27.36 | DocScrutinizer2 | nah, there's simply not one set of best settings. that's the problem |
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| 15:28.44 | DocScrutinizer2 | pjz: anyway, today I seen at least some detail in wiki regarding which controls are involved |
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| 15:34.48 | slaxxin | shr :) |
| 15:38.20 | vininim_ | gah |
| 15:38.37 | vininim_ | empty battery in 15 hours with GPS, GSM and WiFi on =3 |
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| 15:39.02 | Daramarak | That is good |
| 15:39.25 | vininim_ | suspend could increase it (although I suspect you can't suspend with GPS on or something) |
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| 15:44.06 | slaxxin | vininim is that shr? |
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| 15:48.40 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r29d42ea332ae 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/channel.py: ogsmd: add support for callbacks in addition to static strings |
| 15:48.40 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r497d9feef7d7 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/ (channel.py mediator.py): ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] use callbacks for sending +CNMI and %CBHZ |
| 15:48.40 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * rd68130c6c63d 10/framework/subsystems/odeviced/input.py: |
| 15:48.41 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: odeviced: use gobject.timeout_add instead of timeout_add_seconds, since |
| 15:48.43 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: we need the granularity here. This fixes the power button (hence suspend) |
| 15:48.45 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: seemingly not working always. |
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| 15:55.32 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: odeviced: use gobject.timeout_add instead of timeout_add_seconds, since |
| 15:55.32 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: we need the granularity here. This fixes the power button (hence suspend) |
| 15:55.32 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: seemingly not working always. |
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| 16:01.46 | Zorkman | can zhone use midi file as ringtone? |
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| 16:03.03 | mickey|meeting | iirc there's no OPL synthesizer for gstreamer |
| 16:03.16 | mickey|meeting | and no general MIDI plugin |
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| 16:03.36 | Zorkman | too bad, but thanks |
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| 16:03.48 | Zorkman | is there a place where i can see all supported audio formats? |
| 16:04.16 | Zorkman | it can play *.sid files which seemed more not-mainstream to me :) |
| 16:04.25 | salman | greetings |
| 16:04.36 | Zorkman | hello salman |
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| 16:05.17 | Zorkman | salman, please send me your midi plugin for gstreamer |
| 16:05.51 | slaxxin | sometimes i can answer a call in shr tjhen requires a reboot |
| 16:06.02 | mickey|meeting | well .sid files are backed up by a huge fan community ;) |
| 16:06.28 | slaxxin | i got to hear to ringtone song in its entireity |
| 16:06.38 | cjb_ie | were you able to get it to stop? |
| 16:06.46 | slaxxin | nope |
| 16:06.51 | slaxxin | reboot |
| 16:07.09 | Zorkman | mickey|meeting: seems like there is one: http://www.nabble.com/gstreamer-midi-plugin-to8905871.html , is this included in fso? |
| 16:07.11 | slaxxin | 3rd time its happened |
| 16:07.37 | salman | I am trying to connect to freerunner using usb cable to ssh and install/test new software. I tried the instructions in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking but got an error saying can not find device usb0usb0 |
| 16:07.46 | slaxxin | i recieved a call ok 5 minuits before |
| 16:07.50 | salman | Zorkman: how? |
| 16:08.38 | Zorkman | salman: i was joking |
| 16:08.49 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.51 | Zorkman | i was trying to find out how to make zhone play midi's |
| 16:08.56 | salman | oops, fr was off |
| 16:09.08 | Zorkman | but it seems there is already a midi plugin, but i'm to noob to get it to work :) |
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| 16:09.42 | slaxxin | turn off suspend for now |
| 16:10.50 | salman | still the same |
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| 16:13.18 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * r0acb7cdfb382 10/data/themes/toby/ (zhone.edc zhone_suspend.edc): remove suspend part from new theme |
| 16:13.27 | mickey|meeting | Zorkman: no, it's not, please open a ticket |
| 16:13.46 | Zorkman | ok, thank you |
| 16:14.11 | Zorkman | i also added a *.yaml file and it doesn't appear in the profile list in zhone, i'll also open one about that |
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| 16:18.02 | mickey|meeting | ok, cool |
| 16:18.03 | mickey|meeting | thanks |
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| 16:23.34 | salman | I am running debian on my computer and I am trying to connect to freerunner via usb following http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking . but when I issue ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 I got an error saying: can not find device usb0. |
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| 16:33.48 | GNUtoo | hello, youtube videos are ok,some transcoded videos(with mencoder matrixbench_normdivx_vbrmp3.avi -oac none -ovc lavc -lavcopts |
| 16:33.48 | GNUtoo | vcodec=mpeg2video -of mpeg -o matrix_openmoko.mpeg2) are ok...and some not...why? |
| 16:33.54 | GNUtoo | as ok i mean bad coulors |
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| 16:34.32 | GNUtoo | mencoder big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video -vf scale=320:-2,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr -of mpeg -O bbb_om_4.mpeg2 is not ok |
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| 16:37.05 | Sargun | iDoes anyone know of any vector graphics library which is easy to use? It needs to be able to do clipping, area propogation, and inversion? basically the vector data works like this: you dump polygon a polygon, you look at the previous polygons you've painted, and if any of the painted area is within the current polygon, invert that area. Does anyone know of a library, or methodology to do that? |
| 16:39.02 | GNUtoo | found the reason...it's the 02 |
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| 16:42.24 | bricode | Does anyone know if the FR supports SIM cards with multiple phone numbers? |
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| 16:43.56 | mwester | bricode: it does not. |
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| 16:44.34 | bricode | mwester: Is that thanks to the Clypso? |
| 16:44.41 | mwester | I think so. |
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| 16:44.49 | mwester | The Calypso is the only thing that talks to the SIM |
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| 16:48.03 | borg_ | Sargun: cairo? |
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| 16:55.42 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * r4c1025772d6e 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/channel.py: ogsmd: add support for callbacks in addition to static strings |
| 16:55.43 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07stabilization/milestone4 * rb94ad3ceab15 10framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/ (channel.py mediator.py): ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] use callbacks for sending +CNMI and %CBHZ |
| 16:57.20 | Sargun | BobOfDoom, Everyone says Cairo, but I find it fairly difficult to use. |
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| 16:59.13 | gfather | hello guys |
| 16:59.22 | Sargun | hey guy. |
| 16:59.33 | gfather | i asked if there is other devices supported by openmoko |
| 16:59.33 | Sargun | how do you know we're not girls?! |
| 16:59.44 | gfather | lool |
| 16:59.47 | Sargun | what do you mean? |
| 16:59.48 | gfather | hello girls ;) |
| 16:59.57 | Sargun | for the record: We're not girls |
| 16:59.59 | gfather | hello everynody |
| 17:00.21 | Sargun | better. |
| 17:00.24 | Sargun | being PC there |
| 17:00.30 | Sargun | what do you mean? |
| 17:00.38 | Sargun | I mean debian can run on your toaster |
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| 17:01.01 | gfather | lool , thats true |
| 17:01.14 | gfather | can we use custome boards ? |
| 17:04.00 | Sargun | for what? |
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| 17:05.21 | Zorkman | sargun are you a king? |
| 17:05.30 | Zorkman | cause you keep talking "we" |
| 17:05.57 | Sargun | Close, I'm actually god. |
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| 17:06.27 | Zorkman | i didn't know god had a sex |
| 17:06.46 | Sargun | He's male.. I'm definitely male. |
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| 17:08.00 | pooze | what's the terminal package called in Om2008.x ? |
| 17:08.05 | pooze | wasn't it openmoko-terminal2 or something? |
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| 17:08.42 | pooze | I'm quite surprised to not find any related matches when typing 'opkg list | grep term' |
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| 17:10.35 | Zorkman | pooze: opkg update |
| 17:11.00 | pooze | Zorkman: done that. |
| 17:11.15 | Zorkman | pooze; check error messages, because i get a lot of results |
| 17:11.27 | Zorkman | connected to the internet? |
| 17:11.36 | pooze | Zorkman: is it called openmoko-terminal2 ? |
| 17:11.46 | pooze | I'm using testing repository, and I have internet connection |
| 17:11.48 | Zorkman | one of the terminals is |
| 17:11.56 | pooze | only the .sig files err at my place. |
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| 17:12.00 | Zorkman | you also have xterm |
| 17:12.20 | pooze | oh... |
| 17:12.28 | Zorkman | mickeyterm also |
| 17:12.31 | Zorkman | vte and screen |
| 17:12.31 | pooze | seems my last opkg upgrade has changed my opkg config files. |
| 17:12.43 | pooze | I need to have a closer look at that. |
| 17:13.06 | pooze | mohaha... Multiverse-feed.conf and arch.conf are the only ones left in the /etc/opkg directory :-P |
| 17:13.11 | pooze | no wonder I get so few hits. |
| 17:13.23 | pooze | but damn... why did it remove those? |
| 17:13.56 | pooze | funny opkg... "ok, ok I'll upgrade for you... but consider this a onetime favour" |
| 17:13.57 | pooze | :( |
| 17:14.05 | pooze | I wish I had less moodsick software |
| 17:14.51 | Daramarak | Yeah, the FR should have a female name ;) |
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| 17:14.58 | pooze | ;) |
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| 17:18.55 | pooze | hmm.... |
| 17:19.00 | pooze | ok, so I have restored the opkg config files. |
| 17:19.13 | pooze | now I did: "opkg search openmoko-terminal2" with no results. |
| 17:19.25 | pooze | then I did: "opkg list | grep openmoko-terminal2" and I found it. |
| 17:19.27 | pooze | howcome? |
| 17:19.45 | pooze | what does search actually do? |
| 17:20.12 | pooze | I thought the difference would be weather the filtering would happen locally or on the repository servers. |
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| 17:23.29 | Zorkman | don't know pooze |
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| 18:13.32 | ajuonline | is it possible to enable USB networking to the FR from Windows desktop? |
| 18:14.00 | qhartman | Ok, so I got a GTA02 right when they came out, played with it for a bit, and then shelved it because I didn't have time to ticnker, and it wasn't usable (in my oipinion) as a daily use phone yet. Of the current crop of images, are any of them approaching the point where they are usable day-to-day? |
| 18:14.24 | ajuonline | qhartman: Qtopia? |
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| 18:15.31 | gurugentoo | where are the files that describe the icons on the illume home screen? |
| 18:16.14 | vininim_ | slaxxin: fso |
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| 18:19.01 | qhartman | ajuonline: Are you using that yourself? |
| 18:19.13 | slaxxin | debian works for me but u need atleast a 1 gig sdcard |
| 18:19.36 | slaxxin | really simple to install |
| 18:19.53 | slaxxin | shr on flash |
| 18:20.03 | ajuonline | qhartman: it was installed when i receieved the phone last week. and it works as a *normal* phone |
| 18:20.14 | ajuonline | the only problem i faced was suspend/resume thing |
| 18:20.19 | slaxxin | fdom is full but still has problems |
| 18:20.22 | ajuonline | which can be turned off in the settings |
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| 18:21.34 | slaxxin | does bluetooth still work in qt extended? |
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| 18:24.10 | gurugentoo | ah found 'em /usr/share/applications/ |
| 18:24.29 | qhartman | I'll try that out this weekend then. I'm really hoping that I'll be able to get some use out of this thing some day. My wife keeps giving me crap for spending $400 on a device that I have been able to exactly nothing with. |
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| 18:28.13 | Dave | challenges Sargun |
| 18:28.37 | gurugentoo | bwah?!? last night I could never get GPS to show anything, and when I look now it has a lock |
| 18:29.05 | Dave | GPSurprise! |
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| 18:32.24 | gurugentoo | indeed |
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| 18:42.30 | sylar | hi, anybody used successfully adb? |
| 18:42.45 | JaMa | What happen with this patch? Its not in any *-tracking patchset http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=d238d3347d19a6df97670624bd0712e61b83b666 |
| 18:42.51 | JaMa | sylar: yes |
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| 18:44.14 | sylar | JaMa: could you help me please? I get always error: device not found |
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| 18:52.08 | JaMa | sylar: you have to setup your host like for usb-networking ie ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 on your pc while neo will have 192.168.0.202 |
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| 18:52.33 | JaMa | if you can ping to neo ip, then also adb should work |
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| 18:53.00 | JaMa | at least for me, on wiki is written that you should boot your android while usb cable plugged in.. |
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| 18:54.32 | sylar | I made like you... I can ping 192.168.0.202 but... adb doesn't work.... |
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| 19:05.02 | JaMa | sylar: what doesit do or say? |
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| 19:05.32 | JaMa | sylar: do you have ADBHOST=neo_ip before ./adb command? |
| 19:05.43 | sylar | yes |
| 19:05.53 | JaMa | and do you have adb running on your system (check in ps aux | grep adb) |
| 19:05.55 | sylar | $ ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 sudo ./adb get-state |
| 19:05.56 | sylar | unknown |
| 19:06.18 | sylar | sisi |
| 19:06.21 | sylar | *yes |
| 19:06.23 | sylar | (lol) |
| 19:06.47 | skbohra | hi everybody |
| 19:06.49 | JaMa | what? |
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| 19:07.03 | sylar | $ ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 sudo ./adb shell* daemon not running. starting it now ** daemon started successfully * error: device not found |
| 19:07.52 | sylar | JaMa: do you know why I get this error? |
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| 19:24.11 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r9b86c00f22f4 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/ (channel.py unsolicited.py): ogsmd: [TI CALYPSO] prepare for sending org.freesmartphone.GSM.CipherIndication |
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| 19:25.04 | sylar | JaMa: do you know why I get this error? |
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| 19:37.04 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rf1eb74a963ec 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: ogsmd: fix SendUssdRequest to use UCS2 encoding |
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| 19:37.04 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rba7db159ca13 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/ (mediator.py unsolicited.py): ogsmd: detect forwarding for incoming calls |
| 19:37.05 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * r6dd79cd0b1b3 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py: Merge branch 'stabilization/milestone4' |
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| 19:53.57 | Zorkman | anyone tried changing themes in fso ms4? |
| 19:54.06 | Zorkman | don't change it to default or you lose the top bar |
| 19:54.37 | Zorkman | but there is also an option to get themes from the web (the most right button) |
| 19:54.39 | Zorkman | anyone tried it? |
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| 20:07.58 | Dave | zorkman, pyneo? :p |
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| 20:10.14 | Zorkman | neigh, i mean enlightenment themes |
| 20:10.37 | Zorkman | backgrounds from the web work fine |
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| 20:10.44 | Zorkman | my fr is playing pong as wallpaper |
| 20:10.50 | Zorkman | i slows everything down :) |
| 20:12.12 | spydon | cool |
| 20:14.08 | laen | lol |
| 20:14.11 | laen | awesome |
| 20:14.19 | laen | it's feeling hot hot hot! |
| 20:14.33 | Zorkman | my eightball says it isn't worth the resources :) |
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| 20:14.38 | laen | rofl |
| 20:15.04 | laen | i wish i had an idea how long it would take till milestone 4 software would be out |
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| 20:15.24 | laen | and i wish i knew if Qi could boot from ext2/3. |
| 20:15.42 | Zorkman | laen: ms4 is out... |
| 20:16.06 | Zorkman | i think qi can boot ext2/3 not 100% sure though |
| 20:16.15 | laen | Yeah but there's no ms4 for debian yet :P |
| 20:16.32 | Zorkman | aha |
| 20:16.33 | laen | I mean.. OM on the freerunner? You must be non-geek! :P |
| 20:16.39 | laen | J/k :) |
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| 20:16.51 | Zorkman | i'm über noob :) |
| 20:17.12 | Zorkman | I find the normal openmoko distro's non-working enough :) |
| 20:17.13 | laen | Nice, can i has your freerunner yes! |
| 20:17.21 | Zorkman | nope aaai laaik |
| 20:17.25 | laen | haha |
| 20:17.36 | Zorkman | chicks digg my FR |
| 20:17.41 | laen | False! |
| 20:17.45 | Zorkman | ^^ |
| 20:17.55 | Zorkman | at least three do |
| 20:17.59 | Zorkman | and one hates it to the bone |
| 20:18.05 | Zorkman | too bad that last one is my gf :) |
| 20:18.22 | laen | Well my ex went "COOOOOOOOL!!! What are you running on it?". |
| 20:18.34 | Zorkman | ??? you had a nerd as gf? :p |
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| 20:18.40 | laen | But my gf went "Errrr.. whatever your thing is.. :S" |
| 20:18.45 | laen | Kinda yeah :) |
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| 20:20.16 | Zorkman | mine is "goddamn, i can hear the buzzing and an echo, you are using your freerunnerthingy again ain't you? i can't understand what you're saying damn you!" and "what the hell can you do with it" and "does some people FR's actually work?" |
| 20:20.30 | laen | lol yeah |
| 20:21.11 | spydon | Zorkman, sounds kind of like my gf ^^ |
| 20:21.19 | Zorkman | but when the FSO ringtone keeps ringing in an endless loop (when the person calling you hangs up before you can pick up) we danced to the tunes :) |
| 20:21.43 | laen | My collegues said the same at first. Till i said: "Heh, i recorded the exact GPS way we just walked". College#1: "I'm thinking about getting the GTA03!". College#2 "Wooah let me see!". Me: "No!" |
| 20:21.46 | Zorkman | that's some really spaced out tune they have standard on it :) |
| 20:21.57 | laen | Arkanoid roxxors :) |
| 20:22.34 | Zorkman | yeah, but my gf screamed that my FR was acting weird and sounded like the speaker was broken or something when she first heard it :) |
| 20:23.18 | laen | Oh mine got used to it's non-working state. It's not "I'll call you" anymore but "I'll try to call you" now :) |
| 20:23.26 | Zorkman | now i have the song from http://www.e4.com/wtf/animations/we-love-the-internet.html |
| 20:23.45 | Zorkman | mine refused to call me for months when i was testing my fr |
| 20:24.05 | Zorkman | but with fso ms4 the echo is doable, the buzz is buzzing, but she can understand me |
| 20:25.15 | Zorkman | kinda strange because it uses the same state file as FDOM (I think) and with FDOM call quality sucked |
| 20:27.23 | laen | roxxor at that tune you posted |
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| 20:33.24 | Zorkman | mmm where is lbreakout2? |
| 20:33.34 | Zorkman | months ago it was opkg installable |
| 20:34.46 | Zorkman | maybe in the rabenfrost |
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| 20:47.33 | laen | Hm, just flashed the fr with Qi.. but uh, it still says uBoot? |
| 20:48.00 | Zorkman | you flashed it hot enough? |
| 20:48.45 | laen | lol, seriously.. |
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| 20:48.59 | laen | So you think i need the pong screensaver? :P |
| 20:49.28 | spydon | definitely |
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| 20:50.15 | Zorkman | :D |
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| 20:50.39 | laen | Awww.. WSOD! |
| 20:50.49 | Zorkman | downloading some backgrounds (especially static ones) doesn't work on my fr |
| 20:51.02 | Zorkman | damn, i'm glad i've never seen a WSOD |
| 20:51.19 | laen | I don't get the WSOD problem.. i just held AUX and pressed POWER, and it was gone :P |
| 20:51.59 | laen | ANyway, when i get to the boot menu it still says U-Boot 1.2.3-moko12 (May 9.. |
| 20:53.04 | laen | It seems a hell of a lot quicker then uBoot though hehe |
| 20:55.37 | laen | And i do have sound. |
| 20:55.39 | laen | Weeeeird. |
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| 20:57.29 | Zorkman | you didn't have sound? |
| 20:57.43 | laen | No there's a bug that if you boot with Qi you don't have sound. |
| 20:57.48 | Zorkman | aah |
| 20:57.53 | laen | BUT |
| 20:58.00 | laen | with 1 T |
| 20:58.14 | laen | There are 2 Qi in http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ |
| 20:58.22 | Zorkman | take the most sexy one |
| 20:58.37 | Zorkman | ah no |
| 20:58.42 | Zorkman | there for different soc it seems |
| 20:58.58 | Zorkman | s3c6410 is for gta03 i think |
| 20:59.09 | laen | Ow, indeed, but that one is working well :P |
| 20:59.38 | Zorkman | btw: have you tried that last fm app? |
| 20:59.42 | Zorkman | vagathingy |
| 20:59.45 | Zorkman | it works great |
| 20:59.46 | laen | On OM? |
| 20:59.52 | Zorkman | fso |
| 20:59.57 | laen | don't have fso |
| 20:59.59 | Zorkman | it's da bomb |
| 21:00.06 | Zorkman | displays cover art |
| 21:00.08 | laen | What is it? |
| 21:00.17 | laen | Tell me more! Please do! Omg quick! |
| 21:00.20 | Zorkman | last.fm is a kind of music-social site |
| 21:00.32 | Zorkman | and when you play music it logs it |
| 21:00.40 | Zorkman | there are also tons of free "radio"s |
| 21:00.50 | mwester | wants a music-antisocial site. :( |
| 21:00.55 | laen | Oh that.. i don't want last.fm, i have a nice amount of Creative Commons music :) |
| 21:00.55 | Zorkman | with you music, or your friends music, or strangers music |
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| 21:01.33 | Zorkman | laen, it's just nice to be able to acces your mp3's wireless withouth the need for a server, and it plays better than other mediaplayers... |
| 21:01.46 | Zorkman | it's only missing some icons |
| 21:02.50 | Zorkman | i really hate most of the mediaplayers on the fr :( |
| 21:03.13 | laen | on the fr-distro's you mean |
| 21:03.29 | Zorkman | seems none of them have good intuitive controlls, easy to add to playlist, good volume controll... all those things you expect from a 10$ portable musicplayer |
| 21:03.32 | Zorkman | yeah on fr-distro's |
| 21:04.57 | TAsn | Zorkman, for some reasons the pixmaps path isn't set. |
| 21:05.17 | TAsn | i actually manually changed all the /usr/share/applications/*.desktop files to have full path ;] |
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| 21:08.12 | laen | Just booted the correct Qi, i has sound. |
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| 21:16.56 | Lost1nSpace | SpeedEvil, you there? |
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| 21:19.56 | sicu | mutes laen |
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| 21:20.04 | sicu | hrrr |
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| 21:24.18 | laen | slaps sicu with a ire [n=hire@host218-233-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has j |
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| 21:24.22 | laen | huw? |
| 21:24.33 | laen | wth ;) |
| 21:25.01 | sicu | heh, never been slapped with one of those before ;p |
| 21:25.09 | sicu | is it meant to hurt ? |
| 21:25.24 | laen | Offcourse not :) |
| 21:25.59 | sicu | still rather disturbing though ;p |
| 21:26.10 | laen | I'm sorry :( |
| 21:26.58 | sicu | i did mute you, so prob well deserved |
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| 21:38.24 | laen | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Laen ehehh |
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| 21:40.53 | slaxxin | where is IT |
| 21:41.20 | slaxxin | dave must have the hammer out again |
| 21:41.29 | laen | Dave! |
| 21:41.43 | slaxxin | ~ Dave |
| 21:41.44 | apt | [dave] the renowned inventor of the FR-clapper |
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| 21:44.34 | davi | Could I buy the Google phone and install the free software used buy OpenMoko? |
| 21:44.41 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:45.15 | Zorkman | davi: it's running on a newer arm |
| 21:45.25 | mjr | they actively limit what you can install on it |
| 21:45.31 | mjr | don't know how effectively, but they do |
| 21:45.43 | mwester | davi: not yet. |
| 21:46.37 | mwester | but... it's only a matter of time before someone gets it all working. |
| 21:46.37 | davi | I see. So I can not install software on it, as I do it on an OpenMoko hardware? |
| 21:46.37 | Zorkman | dfoes anybody know of an equivalent of apm in fso? |
| 21:46.43 | Zorkman | apm returns a blank line |
| 21:47.16 | davi | Is there any Android hardware specification out there? |
| 21:47.45 | Kensan | mwester: hi there |
| 21:47.45 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.55 | Kensan | mwester: saw your battery patch, awesome work. |
| 21:47.59 | Kensan | mwester: once again :) |
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| 21:48.02 | mwester | Greetings |
| 21:48.11 | laen | Oh no Zorkman, i have bad news. |
| 21:48.33 | mwester | uhoh |
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| 21:48.53 | mwester | Zorkman: what does cat /proc/apm say? |
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| 21:49.48 | mwester | davi: Android is somewhat like the iPhone's apple store -- you can only install applications on it that are specifically written for the phone. |
| 21:50.25 | davi | mwester, So I can not install my own Linux kernel on it? |
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| 21:51.06 | laen | No on the software he means. |
| 21:51.28 | [Rui] | waves... it was nice meeting Marcus Bauer |
| 21:51.52 | mwester | davi: If you had a kernel to run on it, you could do so (I presume that somebody has already broken into the phone and found out how to reflash it). However, as I understand it, the t-mobile phone itself is signature-protected and it will not run if you change the kernel or change any of the signed software. |
| 21:52.01 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03werner * r4785 10/developers/werner/samsung/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Material for communication with Samsung. |
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| 21:52.16 | mwester | So you would need to replace the entire kernel and user-space with somethign like FSO -- but nobody has ported that to the hardware yet. |
| 21:53.00 | davi | mwester, signed? :P |
| 21:53.16 | Kensan | mwester: I guess the bootloader does some signature checking? if that's correct one would need to break that particular "functionality". |
| 21:53.34 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.43 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.52 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.52 | davi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.53 | davi | [feedback]: I would love an OpenMoko with keyboard and camera. |
| 21:54.53 | spydon | I hate all those lies |
| 21:55.38 | spydon | Have they even released all of the source yet? |
| 21:55.48 | sicu | nooo, no camera, we don't need more hardware that needs fixing :p |
| 21:55.56 | sicu | let's fix what we've got first |
| 21:56.00 | piko | Hi, I would like to try openmoko in qemu image, so I downloaded the Makefile as presented in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_QEMU_with_MokoMakefile nevertheless it does not boot (nor enter nor space helps). Could anyone help |
| 21:56.04 | davi | [feedback]: and an slightly bigger screen. The current one is great, but a little bigger would rock even more. |
| 21:56.04 | piko | ? |
| 21:56.48 | TAsn | davi, aye to that (bigger screen) |
| 21:57.01 | davi | :D |
| 21:57.32 | TAsn | and i still can't decide whether a capacitive (iphone) is better than a regular (moko) touch screen |
| 21:58.17 | piko | BTW, how what is current performance of om antennas? Is there any program for GPS? |
| 21:58.40 | TAsn | i mean, the capacity is easier to handle though doesn't support a pen (only costume ones that have large "heads") on the other hand, the moko can handle a pen and feels more accurate. |
| 21:59.05 | TAsn | the iphone touch screen actually feels clumsy and not where you click is where it clicks ;] |
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| 22:01.43 | gurugentoo | piko: it takes appx 2 minutes for me to get a fix, but works quite well after that, look up tangoGPS |
| 22:01.49 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07framework * rad6119a9ca57 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py: ogsmd: add another %CCCN example |
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| 22:04.02 | piko | gurugentoo: oh, great, opensource application and opensource maps, my dream comes true :-) |
| 22:04.30 | piko | gurugentoo: how about that qemu, could you comment? |
| 22:05.12 | piko | I really does not like some problems I have with my mio like impossibility to save predefined tracks |
| 22:05.44 | gurugentoo | I haven't sucessfully gotten it to work, but i'm on gentoo which seems to have some dependency complications |
| 22:05.59 | laen | gurugentoo: could be a stupid question, but do you have gentoo running on the fr? |
| 22:06.25 | gurugentoo | laen: not currently but I tried it briefly |
| 22:06.36 | laen | Interesting. |
| 22:06.47 | laen | Why didn't you keep it on it? |
| 22:07.36 | gurugentoo | it takes a massive amount of space relative to even debian, I just wanted something more supported |
| 22:07.56 | laen | But it does run like Debian runs? |
| 22:08.08 | gurugentoo | yep |
| 22:08.19 | laen | Hm, might try that on my 8GB sd card then. |
| 22:08.36 | laen | Or, first look into the Gentoo embedded guide etc. |
| 22:08.43 | piko | gurugentoo: well, it is running, but the openmoko does not like to be booted |
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| 22:12.05 | laen | gurugentoo: Oh well, i see the torindel binary mirror still has framework milestone 2.. guess i do need a load of reading to create some binpackages myself. |
| 22:13.51 | gurugentoo | laen: ya that was the main annoyance |
| 22:14.29 | laen | Well, i do hope i'm gonna be able enough to bring all that in the future. |
| 22:14.43 | laen | Motivation i has. |
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| 22:20.19 | Zorkman | is there a way to get a report when your sms has arrived in fso? |
| 22:20.22 | Zorkman | or in another distro? |
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| 22:23.13 | spydon | Zorkman, yes |
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| 22:24.37 | Zorkman | spydon: how? |
| 22:24.59 | spydon | call the person you texted and asked if it got there ofc... |
| 22:25.12 | Zorkman | ..... |
| 22:25.29 | spydon | ask* :P |
| 22:25.57 | Zorkman | slaps spydon with a ire [n=hire@host218-233-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has j |
| 22:26.28 | spydon | Wtf is an ire? :P |
| 22:26.29 | Hire | why always me? :( |
| 22:26.36 | Hire | it is HIRE |
| 22:26.41 | Zorkman | laen started it :) |
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| 22:27.12 | spydon | hehe ^^ |
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| 22:55.28 | qknight | huhu |
| 22:55.49 | qknight | i would like to have qt-extended 4.4.x tar for my microsd card |
| 22:55.54 | qknight | any link? |
| 22:56.22 | Zorkman | qknight: i don't think qtopia works when booting from sd |
| 22:56.47 | qknight | Zorkman: with OM it is working very nce |
| 22:56.49 | qknight | nice |
| 22:58.56 | Zorkman | OM? you mean the 2008.x releases? i know those work from sd, just like FSO, debian, SHR and FDOM |
| 22:59.02 | Zorkman | but i don't think qtopia does |
| 23:00.26 | qknight | ok thanks |
| 23:00.30 | qknight | btw |
| 23:00.47 | qknight | do you know a link for qt extended 4.4 |
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| 23:04.27 | Zorkman | qknight> http://code.google.com/p/qtopia-ezx/wiki/QtopiaOnSD |
| 23:04.54 | Zorkman | maybe that can help |
| 23:05.52 | sicu | qknight: and the regular images can be found here: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 |
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| 23:11.32 | Dave | Hire: IT'S YOU! |
| 23:11.42 | Zorkman | dave |
| 23:11.44 | Zorkman | watchout |
| 23:11.52 | Zorkman | there slapping everybody with Hire/ire |
| 23:11.53 | Hire | it's me |
| 23:11.57 | Hire | so it seems |
| 23:11.58 | Hire | :D |
| 23:12.00 | Hire | HIRE |
| 23:12.06 | Zorkman | a while ago: |
| 23:12.07 | Zorkman | * laen slaps sicu with a ire [n=hire@host218-233-dynamic.52-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has j |
| 23:12.12 | Hire | .... |
| 23:12.13 | Hire | HIRE |
| 23:12.16 | Hire | HIRE HIRE HIRE |
| 23:12.18 | Hire | HIRE HIRE H.. |
| 23:12.23 | Zorkman | hire more able people at OM! |
| 23:12.31 | Zorkman | an ire'n more shirts at home |
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| 23:13.41 | Dave | Fucking Hire. |
| 23:13.41 | Dave | needs more laen |
| 23:13.45 | Dave | rolls his eyes |
| 23:13.50 | Hire | uh? |
| 23:13.53 | sicu | hehe |
| 23:14.04 | Hire | i am not gay |
| 23:14.15 | Pander | anyone here involved in dictionaries for illume and other keyboards? |
| 23:14.17 | Dave | Man, I'm about to go all 2007 on that motherfucking scap. |
| 23:14.24 | Hire | but if you are a nice blonde womand ... |
| 23:14.38 | Hire | Dave: you are doing it wrong |
| 23:14.39 | Hire | as always |
| 23:15.22 | Zorkman | pander i have dutch dictionaries |
| 23:15.28 | Zorkman | i don't know what you mean with involved |
| 23:15.38 | Zorkman | womand, is that a FSO service? |
| 23:15.44 | Pander | nice |
| 23:15.50 | Dave | apt kill Hire |
| 23:15.51 | apt | ACTION shoots a excited anti-quark gun at Hire |
| 23:15.57 | Dave | >:) |
| 23:16.14 | Pander | today i requested opentaal.org for adictionary of their words with histogram, just like http://blog.1407.org/2008/10/13/portuguese-dictionary-for-openmokos-illume-keyboard/ |
| 23:16.21 | Hire | is eternal |
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| 23:17.27 | Pander | they said (with proper source reference because of its license) it would be possible to use data from opentaal.org |
| 23:17.27 | Zorkman | ah lol, didn't even know you were dutch pander |
| 23:17.27 | Pander | what kind of dictionary do you have? |
| 23:17.27 | Pander | idem |
| 23:17.28 | Zorkman | pander i have a words.dawg file and a dutch.dic |
| 23:17.41 | Pander | with or without histogram and what is the source? |
| 23:18.02 | Zorkman | Pander: withouth histogram, just grabbed them from the net |
| 23:18.16 | Zorkman | http://alasal.be/openmoko/keyboard/ has a lot of words.dawg files |
| 23:18.26 | Zorkman | that is for qtopia though |
| 23:18.34 | Zorkman | fso uses *.dic files |
| 23:18.55 | Pander | oke, the opentaal version will be much more extensive |
| 23:19.02 | Zorkman | got the dic from http://www.duikforum.nl/downloads/Dutch.zip |
| 23:19.16 | Pander | interested in combining effort in this? |
| 23:19.19 | Zorkman | yeah opentaal would be much better |
| 23:19.31 | Zorkman | Pander: sure, but you have to know I know nothing about linux :) |
| 23:19.39 | Zorkman | i'm still learning everything |
| 23:20.08 | Pander | excuse my French: do you know PHP? |
| 23:21.40 | Pander | 'cause they offered to provide access to their interface. I hope to write the requirements as clear as possible so they will offer the file with each release |
| 23:22.34 | Zorkman | i guess you're not referring to the scripting language? |
| 23:22.59 | qknight | Zorkman, sicu: thanks for the hints |
| 23:23.15 | Pander | yeah, PHP for websites and stuff. we could take this discussion offline, my emailaddress is pander@users.sourceforge.net , send me an email |
| 23:25.27 | Zorkman | Pander, i will, but don't count much on me :) |
| 23:26.25 | Pander | thanks, just for the references you already gave me, you were helpful. I need to have an overview of all the dictionaries etc openmoko needs so I can request them at opentaal.org |
| 23:27.11 | Pander | we'll talk about this later, file formats and keyboard, I'll do the grunt work ;) |
| 23:27.52 | Zorkman | check |
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| 23:42.50 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: any progress? Or life still getting in the way? |
| 23:43.21 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: in fact, it's gotten even worse... Haven't checked my email properly in months |
| 23:43.43 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: I'd like to be able to castigate you, but know exactly what you mean. |
| 23:44.18 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 23:44.26 | Zorkman | you're gonna have like a million om mails cesarb :) |
| 23:46.02 | cesarb | Zorkman: actually, 9865 only on the community list |
| 23:46.03 | SpeedEvil | cesarb: at one time I'd hoped to be looking at your stuff, but house maintainance and other worse stuff has gotten in the way. |
| 23:46.37 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * rb2f48bef7d64 10/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/sms.py: |
| 23:46.37 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: Add support for supplying PDUs in a file on stand-alone operation |
| 23:46.37 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: Put PDUs separated by newlines in two files, one for MO and one for MT |
| 23:46.37 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: messages then call sms.py with the filenames for MO and MT PDUs as |
| 23:46.39 | CIA-51 | freesmartphone.org: parameter. |
| 23:51.38 | Dave | cesarb, you're alive? |
| 23:51.59 | cesarb | Dave: :-) |
| 23:52.02 | Zorkman | omg |
| 23:52.04 | Zorkman | he's a zombie |
| 23:52.09 | Dave | Aaaaaaaaah |
| 23:52.17 | SpeedEvil | tests. |
| 23:52.20 | Dave | Furthermore, if that's the case, why wasn't I invited to the funeral? |
| 23:52.23 | Dave | :| |
| 23:52.25 | mwester | They don't allow those in S. America. |
| 23:52.27 | SpeedEvil | holds a stick covered in brains in front of cesarb. |
| 23:52.49 | Dave | :D |
| 23:53.16 | Dave | Mwester, did you see the post I made earlier? |
| 23:53.29 | mwester | Dunno... what was it about? |
| 23:53.44 | mwester | will have to check with another of his personalities to see... |
| 23:55.07 | Dave | I hope you do :) |
| 23:55.13 | Dave | That reminds me, Joerg, are you awake yet? |
| 23:57.42 | DocScrutinizer2 | yup, Dave. just thinking to prepare my morning coffee |
| 23:58.13 | Dave | :D |
| 23:58.33 | Dave | Joerg, did you see my message to you earlier? |
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| 23:59.04 | DocScrutinizer2 | where? obviously didn't see it |
| 23:59.16 | Dave | oh -_- |
| 23:59.20 | Dave | Let me see if I can find it :) |
| 23:59.51 | DocScrutinizer | ok. My IRC history borked :-/ |
