| 00:00.10 | Fougner | what is nodm? =P |
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| 00:01.23 | Wonka | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.23 | Wonka | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.23 | Wonka | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.37 | Fougner | ah |
| 00:01.38 | Fougner | okay |
| 00:01.39 | Dave | ooh la la |
| 00:01.48 | Fougner | Dave, touch my trala-la |
| 00:01.51 | Fougner | ;D |
| 00:01.52 | Dave | o_O |
| 00:01.54 | johngay | Hey Dave! |
| 00:01.55 | Fougner | haha |
| 00:01.56 | Dave | drit it det! |
| 00:01.59 | Dave | >:o |
| 00:02.01 | Fougner | drit? |
| 00:02.12 | Dave | fittegrubbe! |
| 00:02.16 | Fougner | :o |
| 00:02.18 | Dave | fittegubbe |
| 00:02.20 | Fougner | vad säger du? =( |
| 00:02.27 | Dave | ja >:o |
| 00:02.40 | gurugentoo | hmm except contacts and SMS don't seem to run...odd |
| 00:02.51 | Dave | guru, they should run together? |
| 00:02.54 | Fougner | Dave, don't get angry ;) |
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| 00:03.00 | Dave | oke |
| 00:03.07 | Fougner | hehe |
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| 00:03.20 | Dave | jeg liker deg... din hestkuk ;D |
| 00:03.20 | Fougner | what does "fittegubbe" mean anyway? =P |
| 00:03.25 | Wonka | *sing* paul sine honur |
| 00:03.26 | Fougner | Hahahhaha |
| 00:03.33 | Dave | :) |
| 00:03.36 | Fougner | xD |
| 00:03.41 | Fougner | hestk*k |
| 00:03.46 | Dave | jaja |
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| 00:04.08 | Fougner | muhaah xD |
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| 00:04.44 | Dave | apt liker du davekuk? ;p |
| 00:04.50 | Dave | apt, snakker! |
| 00:05.05 | Dave | pokes apt |
| 00:05.13 | Fougner | apt! |
| 00:05.21 | Fougner | ~_~ |
| 00:05.22 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 00:05.24 | Fougner | :D |
| 00:05.32 | Fougner | he was asleep |
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| 00:05.50 | Fougner | pokes Dave |
| 00:08.57 | Dave | :o |
| 00:09.17 | Dave | slapen? |
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| 00:10.33 | Fougner | Dave, va? |
| 00:10.42 | Dave | ~_~ |
| 00:10.43 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 00:11.06 | gurugentoo | bwah? now contacts are working, maybe it was firsh boot silliness |
| 00:11.16 | Dave | guru, I hope so! |
| 00:12.11 | Dave | Fougner, hva gjør du? |
| 00:12.39 | Dave | runker? :P |
| 00:13.24 | Fougner | Dave, äckel =P |
| 00:13.34 | Fougner | jag sitter å fixar med min Freerunner |
| 00:13.52 | Dave | ah |
| 00:13.54 | Dave | :p |
| 00:14.00 | sicu | he's doing what to his freerunner ?? |
| 00:14.06 | Dave | HAHAHA |
| 00:14.11 | Dave | That's what I thought at first too, Sicu :p |
| 00:14.15 | Fougner | Dave, don't tell him :P |
| 00:14.25 | Dave | Like I want to know? |
| 00:14.39 | Fougner | no, sicu wants to know =D |
| 00:14.41 | sicu | haha .. sounded like you already knew :p |
| 00:14.50 | Dave | O_O |
| 00:14.52 | Fougner | Wonka, how can I change the default background? |
| 00:15.10 | Wonka | no idea. i just don't. |
| 00:15.27 | Fougner | as for now, it's this panel, and the rest of the screen is greyish |
| 00:15.29 | Fougner | ugly |
| 00:15.32 | Fougner | haha |
| 00:15.50 | Fougner | then... how do I make a call on this ? o.O |
| 00:16.23 | Wonka | start hone via fbpanel's menu or button |
| 00:16.28 | Wonka | zhone, even |
| 00:16.34 | Dave | zhone it! |
| 00:16.35 | Wonka | and use it to make your call |
| 00:17.01 | Dave | jeg forstår |
| 00:20.01 | [Rui] | hey... powertop actually complains about lot's of useful energy saving options that aren't compiled in... |
| 00:20.10 | [Rui] | do they simply not work on arm4v? |
| 00:20.44 | Dave | hides from Rui |
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| 00:21.07 | [Rui] | CONFIG_HPET_TIMER, CONFIG_NO_HZ, ... |
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| 00:21.25 | [Rui] | sleep... nighty night |
| 00:23.04 | balrog-k1n | [Rui]: HPET is a PC thing, |
| 00:23.22 | balrog-k1n | [Rui]: and CONFIG_NO_HZ is not currently supported on the samsung cpus, |
| 00:23.23 | Dave | Balrogkun! |
| 00:23.27 | [Rui] | dang |
| 00:23.42 | balrog-k1n | but there's a patch that adds CONFIG_NO_HZ support |
| 00:23.47 | balrog-k1n | you can give it a try |
| 00:24.09 | balrog-k1n | Dave: o/ ! |
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| 00:24.29 | balrog-k1n | [Rui]: want a link? |
| 00:24.50 | [Rui] | balrog-k1n: if you can send it to rms@1407.org I'd appreciate that, but I won't touch it before the weekend... |
| 00:24.58 | [Rui] | gotta go. nite! |
| 00:25.03 | [Rui] | idles |
| 00:25.37 | balrog-k1n | okays, i'll see about it |
| 00:26.09 | balrog-k1n | the patch was against 2.6.27 rather than 2.6.26 (no real difference but it won't apply) |
| 00:26.14 | Dave | Bye rui :) |
| 00:26.22 | Dave | kernel wars! |
| 00:27.13 | balrog-k1n | the dark side of the fork() |
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| 00:27.27 | Dave | :P |
| 00:28.47 | Fougner | hhaa |
| 00:30.06 | Fougner | Wonka, I can't see zhone in the menu =P |
| 00:30.29 | Wonka | bad... |
| 00:30.47 | Fougner | haha |
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| 00:30.50 | Fougner | why? =P |
| 00:31.06 | Wonka | i have it under "Office" |
| 00:31.29 | Fougner | just the openmoko-panel-plugin there |
| 00:31.40 | gurugentoo | yay tangoGPS is amazing, screw debian |
| 00:31.59 | balrog-k1n | HE SAID SCREW DEBIAN! |
| 00:32.29 | Fougner | :o |
| 00:32.30 | gurugentoo | balrog-k1n: on the phone at least |
| 00:32.39 | evolux | argh. isn't there any page where you can simply download a database with coordinates and corresponding wikipedia page names? |
| 00:32.45 | evolux | it can't be so uncommon... |
| 00:32.54 | balrog-k1n | points his finger at gurugentoo |
| 00:33.12 | gurugentoo | balrog-k1n: gasp! |
| 00:33.44 | balrog-k1n | :p |
| 00:37.18 | yabo | hai |
| 00:37.23 | Fougner | hi! |
| 00:37.24 | yabo | i want an audio-player for my 2008.9 |
| 00:37.30 | yabo | halp! |
| 00:41.28 | evolux | ah, there is a .kmz. I hope it contains everything... |
| 00:42.02 | yabo | when i try to install mplayer |
| 00:42.20 | yabo | opkg cant find some dependencies: mplayer-common and libmp3lame0 |
| 00:42.27 | yabo | what do i do? |
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| 00:45.48 | slaxxin | what did the wiki say to do? |
| 00:46.09 | evolux | hm, it's not complete |
| 00:48.13 | slaxxin | hackage |
| 00:50.45 | yabo | slaxxin, the wiki doesnt say anything |
| 00:50.53 | yabo | not about the missing dependencies anyway |
| 00:53.12 | yabo | tar doesnt work either.. |
| 00:53.29 | yabo | tar zxf aids.tar.gz |
| 00:53.32 | yabo | tar: invalid tar magic |
| 00:55.18 | slaxxin | http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk/armv4t/ |
| 00:55.55 | slaxxin | 80% down |
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| 00:56.33 | yabo | oooh thanks! |
| 00:56.39 | slaxxin | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories |
| 00:57.17 | yabo | thanks a bunch |
| 00:58.06 | slaxxin | u might check compatibility with your distro though |
| 00:59.08 | yabo | how do i do that? |
| 00:59.30 | slaxxin | which u have? |
| 01:00.20 | yabo | 2008.9 |
| 01:01.50 | TAsn | Dave, here? |
| 01:02.11 | TAsn | anyway, if anyone wants, i hacked away a nice fso gui control script |
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| 01:02.59 | TAsn | it allows you to run/close bt, wifi, gprs usbhost and has a hidden option for gsm (cannot turn gsm back on yet) |
| 01:03.01 | TAsn | http://stosb.com/openmoko/fso-settings_0.2_armv4t.ipk |
| 01:03.05 | Dave | No |
| 01:05.13 | TAsn | anyhow, i packed the python script if you want ;] |
| 01:05.29 | TAsn | adds a "desktop" launcher |
| 01:05.44 | TAsn | and you can read the source at /usr/bin/fso-settings.py |
| 01:06.11 | TAsn | just read and edit the correct parts for gprs data. |
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| 01:06.20 | TAsn | usbhost, wifi and bt are on by default |
| 01:06.55 | TAsn | and you can always uncomment the part in the gui for gsm, though i disabled that since it does not come back after shutdown ;] |
| 01:06.55 | Wonka | but why? why is wifi on by default? |
| 01:07.02 | TAsn | Wonka, where? |
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| 01:07.19 | TAsn | the script does not change anything on default |
| 01:07.26 | TAsn | what you see is your current settings |
| 01:07.51 | TAsn | and if eth0 is down wifi isn't supposed to transmit anything, just listen to WoWs |
| 01:08.02 | TAsn | or something like that. |
| 01:08.02 | TAsn | ;] |
| 01:08.13 | slaxxin | what are the correct paths for gprs data |
| 01:08.21 | Dave | Tasn, it's finished!? |
| 01:08.35 | TAsn | Dave, it's a gui for you the control what i stated above |
| 01:08.46 | TAsn | for that, it's an ugly gui that works ;] |
| 01:09.07 | TAsn | though i should really ask mickey about resource suspend versus resource disable |
| 01:09.13 | slaxxin | can i has debian ? |
| 01:09.17 | TAsn | slaxxin, i don't get you question. |
| 01:09.23 | TAsn | slaxxin, it works on debian... |
| 01:09.29 | slaxxin | ok |
| 01:09.42 | TAsn | as the package states, it depends only on frameworkd |
| 01:09.44 | Dave | I know! |
| 01:09.48 | Dave | I was here this afternoon :P |
| 01:09.50 | Dave | I remember |
| 01:09.52 | slaxxin | i know now |
| 01:10.06 | Dave | now he knows1 |
| 01:10.07 | Dave | ! |
| 01:10.14 | TAsn | btw, iirc, ipk's are debs with a different name so i think you can apt install it after you rename it. |
| 01:10.15 | TAsn | ;] |
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| 01:10.28 | slaxxin | ok |
| 01:10.40 | TAsn | Dave, let's just hope people will find good use for it. |
| 01:10.41 | slaxxin | thats funny |
| 01:10.47 | TAsn | slaxxin, ? |
| 01:11.06 | slaxxin | hidden debian |
| 01:11.31 | TAsn | slaxxin, the package system? yeah. ;] |
| 01:11.40 | TAsn | it's debian packs version 2 or something like that. |
| 01:12.21 | TAsn | Dave, anyhow, i will be more than glad if people will polish it and maybe add features. |
| 01:12.26 | TAsn | next thing is sound control... |
| 01:12.59 | TAsn | building a settings application for fso is easy, i can finish it in a flash... |
| 01:13.03 | TAsn | (ugly but works) |
| 01:13.25 | Dave | :D |
| 01:13.28 | Dave | gimme gimme gimme |
| 01:13.32 | Dave | I'll break it! |
| 01:13.36 | TAsn | download it. |
| 01:13.55 | TAsn | actually it's mostly written late at night, i think i will clean the code for a sec ;] |
| 01:14.01 | TAsn | it's actually ugly as hell now. ;] |
| 01:15.39 | TAsn | hehe now it's improving a lot. |
| 01:15.40 | TAsn | ;] |
| 01:26.40 | TAsn | Dave, 0.3 is out, it has a bit cleaner code, same link, though 0.3 instead of 0.2 |
| 01:26.43 | TAsn | hack as you like |
| 01:26.45 | TAsn | night ;] |
| 01:27.51 | evolux | night |
| 01:28.05 | slaxxin | Dave bears down |
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| 01:44.48 | jonkristian | What's this? angstrom-version_P1-Snapshot-20081107-r1_om-gta02.opk |
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| 01:50.09 | yabo | good night |
| 01:50.36 | slaxxin | its your new stuff |
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| 01:52.50 | jonkristian | slaxxin: what is contained in it? |
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| 01:53.38 | jonkristian | I couldn't find any info |
| 01:53.49 | jonkristian | Is it like the base system, wrapped up in that pkg |
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| 01:54.51 | slaxxin | the latest from the looks of it |
| 01:55.58 | jonkristian | yeah, i just upgraded, is there a changelog or something with it somewhere? |
| 01:57.36 | slaxxin | this isnt slackware |
| 01:57.46 | slaxxin | sorry |
| 01:58.01 | slaxxin | there migfht be somewhere though |
| 01:58.24 | slaxxin | if theres not its a real problem |
| 02:01.42 | jonkristian | Does this line look ok to you? wep, iwconfig eth0 key 3a4e765a634d744d246d4f7a6f essid speedtouch |
| 02:02.10 | jonkristian | Doesn't seem to work, alternatively i have :NvZcMtM$mOzo |
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| 02:06.00 | SpeedEvil | hacks jonkristians router. |
| 02:06.33 | SpeedEvil | Have you tried it without WEP? |
| 02:06.39 | SpeedEvil | And what messages do youg et? |
| 02:06.56 | jonkristian | SpeedEvil: barely, not manually without wep. |
| 02:07.55 | jonkristian | I don't want to change my router setup, so i'll do some testing tomorrow at my parents house, without encryption. |
| 02:08.00 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
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| 02:08.19 | SpeedEvil | Umm. |
| 02:08.23 | SpeedEvil | Might it be key0 ? |
| 02:08.24 | jonkristian | setting essid and key works, i also got lease for 10.0.0.2 from the router, so something is working |
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| 02:08.39 | jonkristian | however afterwards, it doesn't really do much, hehe. |
| 02:09.06 | SpeedEvil | I don't know what the software installed does. |
| 02:09.21 | jonkristian | tried pinging |
| 02:09.24 | jonkristian | no response |
| 02:09.43 | SpeedEvil | Is there a route? |
| 02:09.55 | jonkristian | i just wanted to know if the key im using looks alright, i heard something about hex vs. ascii etc, not sure. |
| 02:10.10 | SpeedEvil | 26 hex digits |
| 02:10.19 | SpeedEvil | For a 'long' WEP key. |
| 02:12.08 | jonkristian | it definatley finds the router, but it's getting some weird ip instead of the usual 10.x.x.x |
| 02:13.10 | SpeedEvil | Tell it static? |
| 02:13.40 | jonkristian | ill try |
| 02:13.58 | Dave | :o |
| 02:14.30 | SpeedEvil | Also - have a look on the wiki. |
| 02:14.56 | SpeedEvil | It may well have some totally outdated information that will utterly confuse you that you can fix later when you get it working. |
| 02:15.08 | jonkristian | :D |
| 02:16.00 | jonkristian | SpeedEvil: thanks:) |
| 02:16.07 | SpeedEvil | Good luck. |
| 02:18.20 | gurugentoo | so...no missed call screen on SHR? |
| 02:18.50 | gurugentoo | who the heck just called me |
| 02:20.53 | phobie | What is the difference between the fso-testing and the om-daily images? |
| 02:21.03 | gurugentoo | is there a log file anywhere? |
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| 02:27.48 | phobie | Oh please too much feedback |
| 02:27.50 | phobie | ;) |
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| 02:48.42 | gurugentoo | mmm delicious echo |
| 02:50.09 | Dave | bleh :p |
| 02:51.56 | gurugentoo | is there an imagge with a working fix available? |
| 02:51.59 | gurugentoo | image |
| 02:58.25 | Dave | probably not |
| 02:58.35 | gurugentoo | rats |
| 02:59.27 | gurugentoo | I thought the echo cancellation command worked...not so much? |
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| 03:20.42 | daMaestro | ok ok ok ok |
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| 03:25.33 | daMaestro | the wiki has improved 100 fold since the last time i've done reading |
| 03:25.40 | daMaestro | good work to anyone here that has helped with that |
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| 03:39.55 | Dave | KenYoung! |
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| 03:42.38 | KenYoung | Hi Dave. |
| 03:43.54 | KenYoung | Dave - what distribution do you run on your Freerunner? |
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| 04:07.22 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r4766 10/developers/werner/wlan-perf/pingh: |
| 04:07.22 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - for better readability, output filled areas, not just lines |
| 04:07.22 | CIA-52 | openmoko: - added option -o file.png to output the plot to a file |
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| 04:13.08 | gurugentoo | ok I retract my echo complaint, I fixed it with gsmhandset.state |
| 04:21.42 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03tick 07org.openmoko.dev * r608273b69f73 10/packages/ncurses/ (ncurses.inc ncurses_5.4.bb): ncurses: Let ncurses replaces libncurses5 |
| 04:22.27 | daMaestro | wonders if the gta02 doesn't need to be nand cleaned when flashing images |
| 04:27.32 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03tick 07org.openmoko.dev * r88fcd320b2f0 10/packages/dbus/dbus.inc: dbus: adding RPROVIDES and let dbus-1 becomes a virtual package |
| 04:32.19 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03tick 07org.openmoko.dev * r75404caf5c98 10/packages/dbus/dbus_1.2.1.bb: dbus: Bump up PR for last RPROVIDES change |
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| 04:33.42 | daMaestro | so yeah, does anyone know if the nand needs to be cleaned? i just tried flashing the rootfs and kernel and my old ASU image still boots |
| 04:33.53 | daMaestro | the new spash screen flashed ok |
| 04:34.56 | daMaestro | http://fpaste.org/paste/8670 |
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| 04:44.59 | CIA-52 | openmoko: 03werner * r4767 10/developers/werner/wlan-perf/pingh: - reduce the initial bin to avoid cluttering the output |
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| 05:08.43 | daMaestro | gah, and i just tried again and it's still booting the ASU |
| 05:08.48 | daMaestro | this is shitty odd |
| 05:09.11 | mwester | What are you trying to do? booting from SD? |
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| 05:12.32 | AntonTakk | android on the fr would be useable if it had an on screen kb and a touch screen ui for answering calls :) |
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| 05:15.58 | rhkfin | This morning my FR had paniced: red aux blinking, and no response over USB and it was hot. When I restarted, I think the vibra went twice off for a second or so. Weird. |
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| 06:20.31 | gurugentoo | is there a log file for fso debug messages? |
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| 06:21.55 | gurugentoo | like frameworkd messages for what state it's in |
| 06:22.15 | JCC | morning |
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| 06:32.57 | ChandleWEi | how to restart x server in openmoko 2008.9 |
| 06:33.22 | gurugentoo | try /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart |
| 06:33.32 | ChandleWEi | thx |
| 06:34.04 | ChandleWEi | I can't use fdisk -l to find my dev ? how to use fdisk? |
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| 06:34.53 | cjb_ie | cat /proc/partitions maybe? |
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| 06:42.01 | ChandleWEi | I just would fdisk my micro sd card |
| 06:43.43 | tomboy64 | fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 |
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| 06:48.51 | ChandleWEi | tomboy64: I think fdisk have some problem , I can't use fdisk -l and fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 nothing show me |
| 06:49.23 | tomboy64 | ChandleWEi: have you ever used fdisk before? |
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| 06:51.36 | ChandleWEi | I just use fdisk in my debian notebook, not use in openmoko |
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| 06:54.47 | tomboy64 | it gives errors when you do fdisk /dev/mmcblk0? |
| 06:55.53 | ChandleWEi | tomboy64: yes , I type fdisk -l nothing show me , and i type fdisk /dev/mmcblk0 it show me fdisk: cannot read from /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 06:56.15 | tomboy64 | then your sd-card isn't installed probably. |
| 06:56.30 | tomboy64 | open your fr, and make sure it's put in properly |
| 06:56.50 | mwester | Kensan: http://pastebin.ca/1247616 |
| 06:57.05 | mwester | Kensan: sorry for the delay :( My mistake. |
| 06:57.11 | ChandleWEi | tomboy64: I'll try again ,thx your advice |
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| 07:16.43 | ChandleWEi | http://www.pastie.org/309360 It's my micro sd dmesg how to fix it ? |
| 07:18.49 | beni_ | ChandleWEi: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards |
| 07:19.21 | beni_ | especially the link to ticket 1743 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1743 |
| 07:21.30 | ChandleWEi | beni_: thx |
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| 07:30.16 | beni_ | ChandleWEi: hope it helps |
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| 07:48.53 | methril | morning |
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| 08:00.42 | CIA-50 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4768 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-today2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): applied patch for bug#1109: Translations for openmoko-today are not possible |
| 08:02.26 | ChandleWEi | beni_: thx Now I formted ext3 ,but how to format fat32 ,I can't find mkfs.vfat, whichi package I need to install |
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| 08:14.12 | paulproteus | dosfstools I think? |
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| 08:16.59 | ChandleWEi | have anyone know which package can format fat32 ? |
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| 08:19.15 | beni_ | ChandleWEi: format it on yopur linux host |
| 08:20.05 | beni_ | that should most probably have mkfs.vfat |
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| 08:27.56 | ChandleWEi | beni_: My computer not micro sd read socket,openmoko no package to format fat32? |
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| 09:27.31 | Daramarak | top of the mornin everyone! |
| 09:28.14 | gurugentoo | so...anyone use vpnc? |
| 09:28.32 | gurugentoo | Daramarak: ya...I should sleep |
| 09:29.25 | ChandleWEi | who flash android ok ? |
| 09:29.43 | ChandleWEi | I flashed just get black screen. |
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| 09:33.08 | Daramarak | I hear that many encounters that. |
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| 09:37.01 | gurugentoo | ChandleWEi: you have to have a fat and ext3 partition set up on your sd card, you'll have to dig around for the instructions |
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| 09:37.59 | F4t | ChandleWEi, you also should have a working sim card, and let it boot for a while first time, it takes a while before logo appears |
| 09:39.34 | ChandleWEi | f4t:thx ,I never input my sim card |
| 09:40.00 | ChandleWEi | gurugentoo: thx ,I alread have fat and ext3 |
| 09:40.25 | F4t | ChandleWEi, my android managed to boot without sim after first time, but i hear people having trouble booting it without the sim |
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| 09:40.54 | F4t | ChandleWEi, btw, both fat and ext3 must be primary partitions... |
| 09:41.23 | F4t | ChandleWEi, and both of them empty for te first boot |
| 09:41.42 | ChandleWEi | f4t: need to set boot flag? |
| 09:42.01 | ChandleWEi | in ext3 and fat partition? |
| 09:42.30 | ChandleWEi | f4t: I alread set two partitions as primary |
| 09:44.02 | ChandleWEi | f4t:thx again |
| 09:44.18 | F4t | ChandleWEi, i didnt need to set boot flag on any of them... |
| 09:44.59 | F4t | ChandleWEi, anyway, when at last i used sim and paritioned sd card, it still took alot of time to boot from the black screen, and i was ready to shut it down when the logo appeared :) |
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| 09:46.24 | ChandleWEi | F4t:very important information ,thx |
| 09:46.55 | F4t | good luck |
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| 09:48.10 | ChandleWEi | F4t:thx |
| 09:48.36 | ChandleWEi | F4t:^_^ |
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| 10:08.04 | Daramarak | Is there an estimate on when milestone 4 will be released? (apart from 7 days ago) |
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| 10:17.37 | Shlee | When its done. |
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| 11:16.49 | CIA-50 | openmoko: 03charlie * r4770 10/developers/charlie/Wiki/ (11 files): Update personal wiki |
| 11:22.39 | `pwgen` | leinir: hello |
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| 11:32.36 | F4t | hey all, did anyone toy with wicd? i need to figure out how to make it stop messing with the wired connection, dont want it to touch it at all... |
| 11:34.00 | dario | there's a new kernel on mwester download page, does anyone know something about it? it is been put there on november 4th |
| 11:34.58 | Kensan_ | dario: which one are you talking about? |
| 11:36.17 | dario | http://moko.mwester.net/download/uImage-gta02-gc7283981_mwester-stable.bin |
| 11:36.44 | Kensan_ | dario: it contains the top three patches: http://repo.or.cz/w/linux-2.6/openmoko-kernel/knife-kernel.git?a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/mwester-stable |
| 11:37.15 | Kensan_ | dario: basically the touchscreen patch and two minor things. |
| 11:37.52 | dario | Kensan_ is it all? why mwester hasn't updated the kernel page? |
| 11:37.59 | Daramarak | ohhh, my openmoko alarmclock just rang, it is 12:37 here now, the alarm was set for 06:30, looks like my FR is having a bad day :) |
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| 11:38.51 | dario | Daramarak: it's just 367 minutes late... not bad |
| 11:38.54 | F4t | which touchscreen path? the jitter? or the rightclick? |
| 11:39.17 | dario | F4t it seems to be the jitter one |
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| 11:39.26 | Kensan_ | dario: well I don't know when he built the previous patch so I can't tell if that's the whole diff but it seems like it. I assume since these aren't major patches and he is busy with other stuff he didn't update his website. |
| 11:39.27 | Daramarak | dario: Yeah, I am glad it didn't ring later, then I might have been late for work. |
| 11:39.33 | dario | judging from the webpage sent cy Kensan_ |
| 11:40.07 | Kensan_ | Daramarak: it's the jitter patch from Tick. |
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| 11:56.32 | laen | Darn, Zhone is one buggy app. |
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| 12:28.29 | sledgeas | hello |
| 12:29.09 | sledgeas | i am to write a component for Zimbra for my study course. I would like to write something for openmoko (better developing on FSO i think?) could you guys say what would be most wanted, or at least to start with? thanks |
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| 12:32.13 | quickdev | sledgeas, there are many things to do :) |
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| 12:32.23 | quickdev | what are you most interested in? |
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| 12:32.53 | qknight_ | hey |
| 12:33.08 | qknight_ | i want to sync my qtopia based openmoko with kaddressbook |
| 12:33.11 | qknight_ | how to do that? |
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| 12:42.37 | F4t | can anyone help me understand why i have no sound using debian? |
| 12:42.50 | F4t | i already resored alsa state, and still no sound... |
| 12:43.31 | chaos__ | hi! |
| 12:44.19 | chaos__ | has anyone tryed to get gestures running? i always get the following error when i start gesd2-neo2: ** ERROR **: Got result code 2 from requesting name |
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| 13:00.03 | F4t | okay, /dev/dsp belongs to alsa? or some other sound system? |
| 13:00.47 | lindi- | F4t: /dev/dsp is OSS |
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| 13:04.25 | F4t | lindi-, thank you |
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| 13:22.55 | peter_ | hi there, trying to install Android on the FR, anyone having success with it? |
| 13:23.57 | chaos__ | peter_: yes |
| 13:24.28 | peter_ | oh, great, it seems I am stuck somewhere after the Android kernel writing down all the Android files into the ext3 partition |
| 13:24.40 | peter_ | then it stops booting and the red AUX LED flashes |
| 13:24.53 | dolf1074 | peter_: Did you everything listed on http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/11/getting-started-with-android-on-neo.html? |
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| 13:26.15 | peter_ | well, the only thing I have not done is to disable PIN security. Could that be it or would I not at least see the first graphic screen? |
| 13:26.22 | dolf1074 | Normally not |
| 13:26.30 | sledgeas | quickdev: anything to start with then? :) |
| 13:26.46 | dolf1074 | You should see an loader and a screen asking for your pin |
| 13:27.23 | chaos__ | peter_:make sure you have formatted the sd-card with the partitions (ext3 and fat) und then with dfu-util flash it like here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 |
| 13:27.35 | dolf1074 | The red led indicates, you have a fatal kernel error. But if you did everything listed on that blogpost, I cannot help you. |
| 13:27.46 | peter_ | yeah, did that, even upgraded uboot to the latest build |
| 13:28.37 | dolf1074 | You already tried to mount the two partitions when you on another distro? |
| 13:28.41 | peter_ | could there be something wrong in flashing? booted into NOR boot menu, then flashed the kernel, then booted into NAND menu and started |
| 13:29.02 | dolf1074 | did you flash the filesystem? |
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| 13:29.37 | F4t | how should i configure vlc to manage to play video on the moko? what device to use, etc...? |
| 13:29.59 | peter_ | yes, from Ubuntu, I actually created the partitions (SD Card, 200M FAT - 6, rest ext3) and after the crash, I see the Android files like dalvik-cache etc written to the ext3 partition when I mount the SD card in Linux again |
| 13:30.12 | peter_ | so it seems it is starting quite far |
| 13:30.41 | dolf1074 | Do you have r5 or r6 of the Neo FreeRunner? |
| 13:31.16 | peter_ | how can I tell? |
| 13:31.26 | dolf1074 | when did you get your freerunner? |
| 13:31.35 | peter_ | september, Sweden |
| 13:31.45 | dolf1074 | Than it is r6 |
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| 13:32.27 | peter_ | backside DATE CODE: 20080721 |
| 13:32.30 | sylar | hi, what's new with the new mwester kernel of 4 nov? oO |
| 13:33.03 | dolf1074 | Sorry can't help you. If it is r6, with good formatted sd, you have the same setup as me. And mine FreeRunner is working |
| 13:33.16 | chaos__ | F4t: where did you get the vlc player from? is there a precompiled package? |
| 13:33.25 | peter_ | strange. Debian, FDOM etc are working great |
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| 13:34.01 | dolf1074 | yeah, I know |
| 13:34.34 | F4t | chaos__, debian, apt-get install vlc |
| 13:34.46 | peter_ | could it be that there is some problem with the flashing? could the system start partly that long then? |
| 13:34.59 | F4t | got audio working, once i switched to oss, alsa seems not to work... |
| 13:35.03 | F4t | but still no video |
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| 13:36.22 | chaos__ | peter_: try to partition and format the sdcard again, first delete the partitions with cfdisk (cfdisk /dev/mmcblk0), next step is to part the sd-card with with fdisk (fdisk /dev/mmcblko) and the last step is to format it with mkfs.ext3 and mkfs.vfat (for me it worked!!!) |
| 13:37.02 | peter_ | do I need to do that on the FR or can I use ubuntu with /dev/sdb etc? |
| 13:37.40 | chaos__ | peter_: i did all these steps from om2008.9 and then i restarted into NOR-boot menu and flashed the kernel and the jffs2 file-system |
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| 13:37.59 | jonkristian | Does android require a sim in the phone at all times? |
| 13:38.07 | dolf1074 | no |
| 13:38.19 | dolf1074 | most people can boot it whitout sim card |
| 13:38.24 | jonkristian | cool |
| 13:38.28 | chaos__ | "most" ;) |
| 13:38.33 | peter_ | ok, thanks for the help, will try that, thanks for the help! |
| 13:38.36 | jonkristian | How about the sd thing, where you have to re-partition |
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| 13:39.13 | dolf1074 | You must have a sd card inserted and partitioned that way. Else android will not boot |
| 13:39.25 | jonkristian | Ok |
| 13:39.30 | jonkristian | dolf1074: using android now? |
| 13:39.34 | chaos__ | dolf1074: did you habe success with suspend mode? |
| 13:39.53 | dolf1074 | jonkristian: Not right now |
| 13:39.55 | jonkristian | I wish i could use it with another system on the sd though |
| 13:40.10 | lindi- | ril does not even mention suspend |
| 13:40.37 | dolf1074 | chaos__: yes, but it was very unreliable. If I had a sim card inserted and manually suspended it, I could unsuspend it. In all other situations, it didn't work |
| 13:40.39 | F4t | did someone think of overclocking the arm4? |
| 13:41.29 | chaos__ | dolf1074: me too ... android is an nice os, but the battery life is too short : / |
| 13:41.55 | dolf1074 | jonkristian: Normally, you can do that. You can make 4 partitions and than flash another system to the third and fourth partition and set uboot in multiboot |
| 13:42.07 | lindi- | any idea why they used C for parsing AT commands? |
| 13:42.39 | dolf1074 | chaos__: yes, and without a virtual keyboard, it is rather not useful |
| 13:42.50 | Dave | hoi o/ |
| 13:43.41 | dolf1074 | hey, |
| 13:44.41 | chaos__ | dolf1074: you are right! i found an interessting project here: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ ---> it's a android port to the htc vogue and a virtual keyboard is compiled into the kernel |
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| 13:45.43 | jonkristian | dolf1074: I only have the 512 card |
| 13:45.43 | jonkristian | Im waiting for my paycheck, to buy a larger card, maybe sdhc:) |
| 13:45.43 | jonkristian | ping |
| 13:46.06 | jonkristian | ouch, every time i connect my fr i lose wireless on the laptop, lol |
| 13:46.51 | dolf1074 | nice, hope it will be ported to opendroid (openmoko + android) :p |
| 13:46.51 | chaos__ | lol |
| 13:47.08 | chaos__ | muhaha, nice name ; ) |
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| 13:48.20 | peter_ | flashing 2008.09 ... |
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| 13:49.27 | jonkristian | Hm, did calling/sms recently update in android? |
| 13:49.35 | dolf1074 | no |
| 13:49.37 | dolf1074 | why |
| 13:49.38 | jonkristian | Or has it been functional since the first image |
| 13:49.48 | dolf1074 | yeah, it was functional |
| 13:49.52 | jonkristian | I just don't remember seeing it as a feature when the first image came out |
| 13:49.55 | jonkristian | ah, alright |
| 13:50.16 | dolf1074 | (expect for the stupid people like me who put there sim card the wrong way around in his freerunner) |
| 13:50.39 | jonkristian | LOL |
| 13:50.52 | jonkristian | I did that one time, scratched my head for a bit |
| 13:51.29 | dolf1074 | And I told everybody my Android was thumb because he said I didn't have a Sim card inserted :( |
| 13:52.18 | jonkristian | I guess you were relieved to find out what was wrong then:) |
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| 13:52.34 | dolf1074 | yeah |
| 13:52.50 | dolf1074 | but that was after I already flashed om2008.9 |
| 13:53.07 | jonkristian | ah |
| 13:53.09 | dolf1074 | I found it weird, that my SIM wasn't working there either |
| 13:53.12 | jonkristian | that sucks |
| 13:53.16 | jonkristian | hehe |
| 13:53.27 | jonkristian | Ouch, it's always those stupid little things |
| 13:53.44 | dolf1074 | yeah |
| 13:55.40 | jonkristian | hm, what's adb? http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ |
| 13:56.01 | dolf1074 | some script for communicating with the android |
| 13:56.17 | gromez | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3#Tools |
| 13:56.25 | jonkristian | thanks |
| 13:56.27 | dolf1074 | 'adb install blablab.apk' installs a andoird app |
| 13:56.32 | jonkristian | ah |
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| 14:01.32 | jonkristian | can i force an umount of the sd card, it doesn't want to umount, says drive or rescourse busy |
| 14:02.08 | gromez | jonkristian: try to kill qpe |
| 14:02.21 | jonkristian | thanks |
| 14:03.32 | DocScrutinizer2 | fuser or lsof |
| 14:05.19 | DocScrutinizer2 | jonkristian: fuser even has an option to kill all processes occupying a particular file/dir |
| 14:05.26 | jonkristian | DocScrutinizer2: sweet |
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| 14:18.17 | F4t | did anyone manage to make mplayer with glamo driver work for him? |
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| 14:37.48 | jonkristian | anybody able to ssh into android? |
| 14:38.52 | jonkristian | usb |
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| 14:52.59 | bricode | jonkristian: Not at the moment. Same with adb. |
| 14:53.24 | bricode | jonkristian: Currently I'm running it in a chroot under Debian for debugging purposes. |
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| 14:59.50 | phobie | what package is missing? |
| 14:59.51 | phobie | dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freesmartphone.ogpsd was not provided by any .service files |
| 15:00.16 | jonkristian | hmz |
| 15:00.27 | jonkristian | My micro sd card adapter doesn't seem to wrk:/ |
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| 15:01.51 | mwester | jonkristian: how so? |
| 15:02.12 | jonkristian | nvmd, just had to insert it a couple of 15 times |
| 15:02.13 | sicu | ~scream |
| 15:02.14 | apt | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 15:02.15 | jonkristian | :D |
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| 15:02.47 | jonkristian | time to populate some media:) |
| 15:03.22 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | hi i have a neo 1973 |
| 15:03.30 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | and I need to install a working distro to it |
| 15:03.50 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, you got the device? |
| 15:04.11 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: no its lawgon's 1973 |
| 15:04.19 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | i am with him |
| 15:04.35 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: you used this phone right? |
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| 15:04.37 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, where? |
| 15:04.40 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, yeah |
| 15:04.55 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, i was playing it with for a while |
| 15:04.55 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: he is asking me to make it working for him.. |
| 15:05.04 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: he has come over for a workshop near my city.. so i joined in to conduct a Sahana workshop |
| 15:05.10 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: he said, he bought it for you :P |
| 15:05.15 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, :D |
| 15:05.16 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: its not charging up or what |
| 15:05.44 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, the battery must be completely drained..connect it to the USB and let it be there for a few hours |
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| 15:05.52 | sudharsh_ | then switch it on to charge |
| 15:06.05 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: does it show any light or activity on charging ? |
| 15:06.34 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, no, afaik..since it doesnt have LEDs as the freerunner |
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| 15:07.03 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: tell me what do i need to make it a working phone |
| 15:07.07 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | he will leave tomorrow |
| 15:07.13 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | so |
| 15:08.03 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, i think, the latest qtopia images should give him a working phone...am not sure about OM2008 on the neo1973..maybe someone here can enlighten us on that |
| 15:09.45 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: ok looking.. can you link me to the page to install those images> i am on a slow connection at the moment |
| 15:09.54 | jonkristian | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973 |
| 15:10.15 | jonkristian | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973#Flashing_the_Neo1973_GTA01Bv4 |
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| 15:10.26 | sudharsh_ | thanks jonkristian |
| 15:10.30 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, ^^ |
| 15:10.35 | jonkristian | hmz |
| 15:10.48 | jonkristian | anybody got sd card error on android? |
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| 15:10.54 | jonkristian | when accessing video/music etc.. |
| 15:10.58 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | ok thanks |
| 15:11.16 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | android working on FR ? |
| 15:11.27 | jonkristian | ya |
| 15:11.30 | jonkristian | barely |
| 15:12.43 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, "It is likely it will be some months before any 2008.x release works on the 1973. In the mean time, users are encouraged to use 2008.2 or FSO." from the wiki |
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| 15:12.58 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | bah ok :P |
| 15:13.25 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: i hope you have me and know him well.. so tell me what shall i install for him :P |
| 15:13.48 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | met him* |
| 15:14.11 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, he is too old to have neo1973 (but dont tell him this) |
| 15:14.59 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, flash qtopia then |
| 15:15.19 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: link to download? |
| 15:15.48 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: and your a bitch :P i will tell him that you said so.. he is a nice person :P and didnt he give you this phone ;) |
| 15:16.14 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, hehe |
| 15:17.16 | sudharsh_ | AJuOnLiNE|sh, just a sec |
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| 15:25.28 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | sudharsh_: leaving for dinner |
| 15:25.41 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | pm on lawgon's irc nick the link |
| 15:25.47 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | we are at a college |
| 15:25.49 | AJuOnLiNE|sh | ok? |
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| 15:26.00 | Ainulindale | Any C/gcc/makefile expert around to help me solve cc1: error: .libs/myfile.d: No such file or directory ? |
| 15:26.03 | Ainulindale | (this file should be generated) |
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| 15:27.35 | Ke | not automake? |
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| 15:28.18 | prosoft | bricode: How's things coming along with the porting of android? |
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| 15:31.24 | Ainulindale | Ke: autotools were used |
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| 15:35.01 | bricode | prosoft: It's coming along. I've got a flesystem image building. Am doing kernel work. |
| 15:35.57 | F4t | bricode, this is a different port from the one avalible? |
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| 15:36.19 | bricode | Different kernel yes. Slightly different filesystem image. |
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| 15:37.08 | bricode | Getting a build system up and running was a bit of a challenge. |
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| 15:38.52 | jonkristian | anybody running fdom? Just wondering how it is compared to qtextended/2008.9 in functionality. |
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| 15:50.13 | phobie | on the current fso the gps does not work how to fix that? |
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| 15:51.29 | slaxxin | fdom is more usable |
| 15:51.37 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:51.50 | phobie | jonkristian: read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions and add something if you know more |
| 15:52.14 | phobie | slaxxin: fdom is badly slow and I want to develop stuff |
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| 15:53.05 | simond | bricode: beep |
| 15:53.21 | bricode | simond: bop |
| 15:53.37 | phobie | the ogpsd_methods.py from git shows: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freesmartphone.ogpsd was not provided by any .service files |
| 15:54.05 | duffolonious | can the phone receive calls when in sleep (standby) mode? |
| 15:55.22 | mwester | duffolonious: if its working correctly, yes. |
| 15:57.15 | duffolonious | mwester: ok, cool. thanks |
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| 16:06.06 | phobie | Is the current dbus-tree documented somewhere? |
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| 16:08.40 | PBeck | ahoi |
| 16:08.43 | Torikun | QTOPIA Extended has the best batterly life in the world |
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| 16:08.51 | Torikun | I phone has been in my bag for days |
| 16:08.54 | Torikun | and fully charged |
| 16:09.10 | Torikun | never mind |
| 16:09.15 | Torikun | 30% left |
| 16:09.21 | Torikun | Still a big improvement |
| 16:10.31 | alphaone | yeah, noticed that as well |
| 16:10.48 | quickdev | what's the difference? |
| 16:10.50 | Torikun | GOod Job WT |
| 16:10.52 | Torikun | *QT |
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| 16:13.33 | quickdev | alphaone, Torikun, but the kernel is the same? Userland improvements? |
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| 16:13.45 | Torikun | TThey use a modified kernel |
| 16:14.03 | alphaone | quickdev: I always flash the latest kernel |
| 16:14.25 | alphaone | Actually I am using fso-image |
| 16:14.27 | alphaone | not qt |
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| 16:33.47 | quickdev | alphaone, could you imagine why the battery life is much longer on qt extended? |
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| 16:34.40 | alphaone | quickdev: We need "extended" in our name? |
| 16:34.43 | alphaone | :-) |
| 16:34.50 | alphaone | No, sorry, no plan |
| 16:34.51 | quickdev | no, seriously ;) |
| 16:35.18 | alphaone | I didn't even know that their battery life was so much longer until a couple minutes ago |
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| 16:42.28 | Ainulindale | quickdev: because it doesn't boot ? |
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| 16:47.46 | break_free | i have two partitions on my uSD card. mmcblk0p1 (8mb) and mmcblk0p2 (480mb), how do I delete them so I can put in paritions for android? |
| 16:48.13 | break_free | in fdisk it asks for parition number when I want to delete, but fdisk -l doesn't show the partition numbers |
| 16:48.25 | techiem2-r | try cfdisk |
| 16:48.27 | Dave | cfdisk? |
| 16:48.31 | Dave | techy ;D |
| 16:48.34 | techiem2-r | assuming it's there |
| 16:48.39 | Dave | you can install it! |
| 16:48.58 | break_free | what does cfdisk do better than fdisk? |
| 16:49.42 | Dave | just try it and see :p |
| 16:49.55 | break_free | I shall |
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| 16:50.45 | Dave | Good! |
| 16:52.13 | F4t | Dave, wheres the fully ported android? |
| 16:52.41 | Dave | Please be patient! |
| 16:52.46 | dolf1074 | F4t: fully ported android? |
| 16:52.48 | Dave | While we convert the heathens! |
| 16:53.40 | Dave | Dolf, I think he meant, have everything working. |
| 16:53.46 | Dave | Which presently, it is not, I'm afraid. |
| 16:54.09 | Kensan_ | go spank bricode and Sean *hehe* |
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| 16:54.13 | dolf1074 | ah zo |
| 16:54.23 | Dave | better yet, lock them in a closet together |
| 16:54.32 | Dave | ;p |
| 16:54.49 | break_free | Dave, I heart cfdisk |
| 16:55.03 | techiem2-r | :) |
| 16:57.00 | bricode | break_free: what does fdisk -l /dev/whatever give you? |
| 16:57.23 | bricode | break_free: You don't need to delete the partitions on the sdcard. Android creates a directory called /data on there. |
| 16:58.13 | mwester | Dave is porting android for us, too? Excellent! |
| 16:58.22 | Kensan_ | see, just mention his name and voilà : prime support. :) |
| 16:58.27 | break_free | bricode, it gave me mmcblk0p1 and mmcblk0p2, but i deleted those |
| 16:58.51 | Kensan_ | bricode: sorry about the joking... I have no intention keeping you away from work ;) |
| 16:59.03 | break_free | now I'm just making two partitions, one 256mb FAT32 and one 256mb ext3 |
| 17:00.10 | bricode | break_free: That should do it. |
| 17:00.25 | break_free | in cfdisk when I'm choosing type, is "extended" for ext3? |
| 17:00.28 | bricode | Kensan: No worries. Just waiting for a a fresh kernel compile |
| 17:00.37 | bricode | break_free: nope, both should be priary |
| 17:00.56 | Kensan_ | bricode: oh cool. 2.6.26? |
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| 17:01.25 | bricode | Kensan_: Yes 2.6.26 with some cherry picked patches. |
| 17:01.29 | Dave | Mwester, apparently. |
| 17:01.32 | break_free | bricode, no I mean when i'm choosing the filesystem type |
| 17:01.33 | Dave | By popular demand! |
| 17:01.51 | Kensan_ | bricode: nice. Keep me posted how that works out. |
| 17:01.59 | bricode | Kensan_: Some of the stuff was irritating to backport to 2.6.24. |
| 17:02.21 | mwester | notes that *everyone* seems to be working on 2.6.26 or higher, when 2.6.24 is the only version that actually can resume from a suspend still... how curous. |
| 17:02.28 | Dave | yeah |
| 17:02.36 | Dave | I was just about to inquire about 2.6.27 |
| 17:02.40 | Dave | heh |
| 17:03.09 | mwester | If android requires 2.6.26, then Om will do 2.6.26. Otherwise, I suspect Om will jump to 2.6.28 |
| 17:03.11 | Dave | Mwester, yeah, it seems some stuff was broken or overlooked... |
| 17:03.15 | Kensan_ | mwester: did you see the new repos at git.openmoko.org? The gta03-test-suite? Seems like full steam ahead with gta03... |
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| 17:03.21 | Dave | mwester - gah! |
| 17:03.41 | mwester | Kensan_: I try not to watch that any more. It raises my blood pressure too much. |
| 17:03.42 | Dave | Kensan, and negative steam ahead with gta02 :*( |
| 17:03.48 | Dave | Mwester - yeah :| |
| 17:03.51 | Dave | I'm with you. |
| 17:03.51 | Kensan_ | Dave: 2.6.27 is awesome! *hehe* |
| 17:04.00 | Dave | (less the mmHg) |
| 17:04.00 | break_free | anyone? in cfdisk when I'm choosing the filesystem type, is "extended" equivalent to ext3? |
| 17:04.05 | mwester | break_free: no |
| 17:04.12 | Dave | throws a bricked freerunner at kensan |
| 17:04.20 | Dave | might as well be a brick :p |
| 17:04.22 | break_free | mwester, I don't see a ext3 in the list |
| 17:04.31 | mwester | break_free: avoid extended whenever possible, because not all systems support that. |
| 17:04.33 | Kensan_ | catches it and sells it to some unsuspecting customer |
| 17:04.35 | Dave | 83? |
| 17:04.41 | mwester | break_free: partitions are not filesystem types. |
| 17:04.48 | Dave | Kensan, how DARE you profit from your beating!! |
| 17:04.51 | break_free | my bad |
| 17:04.57 | break_free | Dave, ah 83... thanks |
| 17:05.04 | Dave | :) |
| 17:05.10 | Kensan_ | Dave: well how should I put it... "you gotta feed zee monkey" |
| 17:05.25 | Dave | in this case, that would be... your significant other? |
| 17:05.28 | Dave | ;p |
| 17:05.47 | Kensan_ | Dave: touché that one goes to you. |
| 17:06.05 | Kensan_ | bows to Dave |
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| 17:06.59 | Dave | :] |
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| 17:07.43 | mwester | still needs a FR that shows the WSoD problem. |
| 17:07.56 | mwester | Dave: you have loads of FRs -- got any with the WSoD problem? |
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| 17:08.00 | mwester | :p |
| 17:08.08 | Dave | Mwester, I thought be discussed this before. |
| 17:08.15 | Dave | Mwester, I believe I've experienced it twice. |
| 17:08.21 | Dave | but only when trying 2008 |
| 17:08.27 | Dave | then I stopped trying it. :p |
| 17:08.41 | Dave | I've gotten the OMSoD a few times though. :\ |
| 17:08.51 | Dave | Though I think that was the result of a former kernel bug |
| 17:08.53 | mwester | Well, I can understand that. One attempt at 2008.x is bad enough. |
| 17:09.17 | Dave | Mwester, I believe I made three, two ended up in aggravation so I trashed it. |
| 17:09.39 | Dave | Like 1/6-7 boots was WSoD or some shit, and I couldn't tolerate that. |
| 17:09.42 | bricode | I only tried 2008.x when it was formerly known as ASU. |
| 17:09.52 | Dave | formerly known as the artist... |
| 17:10.05 | Kensan_ | formerly known as WTFBBQoD |
| 17:10.07 | Dave | formerly known as ... stinky cheese. |
| 17:10.20 | Dave | Kensan, that's where you'll be cremated. |
| 17:10.27 | mwester | Kensan_: your debug board? |
| 17:10.33 | Dave | hah! |
| 17:10.34 | Kensan_ | mwester: at home |
| 17:10.38 | Dave | Is that still fucked up? |
| 17:10.49 | Kensan_ | mwester: will give it another shot later |
| 17:10.51 | mwester | ah, hence the "_" on your nick. |
| 17:10.53 | Kensan_ | mwester: are you around? |
| 17:10.57 | Kensan_ | mwester: indeed |
| 17:12.03 | mwester | I are around - right now. Got more meetings this afternoon, and then the weekend. And for some reason, three customer visits next week, followed by three more the week after, all in different cities. So my time to work on this stuff will be limited a bit. |
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| 17:12.34 | Kensan|work-supp | mwester: yeah, that sentence was not very clear. Are you around in 2-3 hours? |
| 17:13.04 | mwester | For a short while. |
| 17:13.24 | Dave | Mwester, by the way, just to give you a little info - The main thing to note is that OM2007 or some variant has always been my primary distro on the devices, hence, I did not experience much of the same issues "moving forward". |
| 17:13.27 | mwester | Then I'll be around again in about 5 hours. |
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| 17:14.55 | nemik | anyone does Qt dev here? i'm confused about it |
| 17:14.56 | Kensan|work-supp | mwester: ok 5 hrs sounds ok. |
| 17:14.59 | mwester | Dave: I'm just kidding you, really -- IMO either Om needs to focus on fixing the GTA02 glamo resume problem, or if they truely are going to leave that dangle for the community to fix, then they should provide a recent GTA02 with the problem to some volunteers to work on. |
| 17:15.25 | mwester | I'm not saying "give", more like "loan" |
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| 17:16.16 | Kensan|work-supp | mwester: more like: do something about this... please. |
| 17:16.22 | kobh | hello |
| 17:16.29 | kobh | i am on 2008.9 |
| 17:16.45 | kobh | how do i register to the gsm-network? |
| 17:16.51 | kobh | scratch that |
| 17:17.06 | kobh | what do i do to enable sms/calling? |
| 17:18.21 | Dave | Yeah. |
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| 17:18.29 | Dave | Mwester, I'll see what I can do :) |
| 17:18.53 | Dave | kobh: haha. good question! |
| 17:19.02 | Dave | Though I'm guessing you really weren't joking. |
| 17:19.03 | mwester | Kensan|work: I guess I'll send an email to the kernel list to see if Andy did commit (or will commit) a hack to do a full hardware reset of the glamo on unblank and resume so that the 2.6.26 stuff is somewhat usable. It isn't going to get any easier to migrate to newer kernels by waiting, and since Android is already 2.6.26 we're going to have to split support efforts, which is pointless. |
| 17:20.07 | Kensan|work | mwester: well the longer om waits the more man-power the upstreaming effort will consume... |
| 17:20.24 | toggles_w | hmm android will bet ready on 2/6/26? Im not sure I can wait |
| 17:20.33 | toggles_w | Dave: fix me a keyboard |
| 17:20.36 | Kensan|work | mwester: at least Werner is running his stuff by Ben... |
| 17:20.40 | Dave | Toggles, first things first! |
| 17:20.45 | kobh | no funnehs, all serious. When i try to dial numbers, i am told to shoo, because i am not connected to gsm |
| 17:21.13 | Dave | God, the OM team is what seems to be nothing more than a soap opera these days. :) |
| 17:21.16 | mwester | There's also distro issues to consider -- the /sys naming conventions will change with 2.6.26, so FSO and Qtx will need updates too. |
| 17:21.34 | Dave | yeah, qtx, get with the program. |
| 17:21.41 | mwester | Dave: did you see the latest Testing Report email ;) |
| 17:21.48 | Dave | Oh geeze, no... |
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| 17:22.08 | Dave | Dude, I'm telling you, reading the ml these days is better than daytime television! |
| 17:22.39 | mwester | 1 new bug opened, three closed. Good ratio, but the absolute numbers are, um, concerning. |
| 17:23.03 | Kensan|work | mwester: I am not so worried about fso. Things will get fixed there quite quickly I believe. |
| 17:23.15 | Dave | Disturbing. |
| 17:23.19 | Kensan|work | mwester: as long as the kernel work moves forward... back-to-basics remember? |
| 17:23.21 | Kensan|work | *sigh* |
| 17:23.24 | mwester | Yep. QTx is well-abstracted, so that will be an easy update too. |
| 17:23.42 | Dave | Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't seem like there's enough b2b going on in here and now. |
| 17:23.43 | mwester | But it will take some time and there will be Great Confusion(tm) |
| 17:23.48 | Dave | It concerns me greatly. |
| 17:24.08 | Dave | It frequently seems that progress and time with OM are nearly inversely proportional. |
| 17:24.33 | Dave | They are undoing themselves in some areas. -_- |
| 17:24.42 | Kensan|work | mwester: well as past discussion have shown, userspace breakage is not on the top of the list of concerns I fear... |
| 17:25.01 | Dave | Kensan, I just hope it's still ON the list! :x |
| 17:25.25 | mwester | Kensan|work: :) there's a bright spot of light -- Werner seems to be very well organized and focused on the troublesome wifi -- it now works as a module (which was the gating issue preventing it from being powered on/off properly) and he's on the latency problem. All good. |
| 17:25.54 | Kensan|work | mwester: yes, he's been focused on his share of issues all along. |
| 17:26.25 | Kensan|work | mwester: and he has uttered some concerns about sending patches mainline and that if they don't change their workflow it will (again) eat up a ton of time. |
| 17:26.52 | Kensan|work | mwester: it's because he knows ho it's supposed to work. |
| 17:26.55 | Kensan|work | imho |
| 17:26.56 | mwester | :) |
| 17:27.30 | Kensan|work | but there does not seem to be enough momentum to finally crush the suspendresume stuff |
| 17:27.59 | mwester | The charging logic is broken; I'm afraid I don't share Andy's optimism that it will end up fixed as a side-effect of the reorg of the code for upstream, but it does seem reasonable to not bother to fix it on the 2.6.24 kernel... |
| 17:28.19 | mwester | So overall, I agree with the direction, except for the suspend/resume focus. |
| 17:29.30 | mwester | heh - and the decaying video data issue -- that's rather intruiging. I suspect that if someone "pulls on that thread" we might find another clue to the glamo's internal behavior. |
| 17:29.59 | Kensan|work | yeah, that was a rather puzzling read :) |
| 17:31.36 | Dave | SEKRETZ |
| 17:31.55 | Dave | Mwester, I hope I can help :) |
| 17:32.14 | Dave | Seeing how I always seem to have time, when it comes to breaking the freerunner. |
| 17:32.21 | Dave | haha oh great |
| 17:32.53 | Dave | just picked up a pile of papers and found another freerunner lying in a box of extra spearmint |
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| 17:37.10 | break_free | so I tried flashing the android images... but now my phone won't boot past the splash... should I wait or is something wrong |
| 17:37.52 | F4t | break_free, you see the splash image? |
| 17:38.00 | Wonka | np: The Clash - Should I Wai^W Stay Or Should I Go |
| 17:38.03 | F4t | break_free, i mean the android logo? |
| 17:38.09 | break_free | F4t, the openmoko one, not the android logo |
| 17:38.33 | F4t | break_free, wokring sim inserted? sd card partitioned with 2 partitions fat and ext3 both primary? |
| 17:38.40 | Dave | haha |
| 17:38.41 | break_free | F4t, yes |
| 17:38.57 | Dave | at least it's not the blank screen, right? ;p |
| 17:39.03 | break_free | haha, yeah |
| 17:39.07 | F4t | break_free, black screen? or back-lit back screen? |
| 17:39.12 | F4t | black* |
| 17:39.14 | break_free | it's just stuck at the openmoko splash screen |
| 17:39.17 | break_free | backlit |
| 17:39.21 | Dave | o_O |
| 17:39.34 | F4t | so stuck on black or stuck on openmoko splash screen? |
| 17:39.36 | Dave | CONFLICTING INFORMATION DETECTED; ABORTING ASSISTANCE |
| 17:39.40 | F4t | LOL |
| 17:39.54 | break_free | F4t, i'm stuck at the openmoko splash screen |
| 17:40.22 | F4t | break_free, never happened to me, i got stuck in black screen a while, but never on the openmoko logo... |
| 17:40.30 | F4t | break_free, did you try to boot from the nand? |
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| 17:40.30 | break_free | weird, should I reflash? |
| 17:40.38 | break_free | from uboot? |
| 17:40.51 | F4t | btw, did you flash kernel AND the rootfs? |
| 17:41.06 | break_free | F4t, yeah, i believe so :) |
| 17:41.23 | F4t | try booting from nand... (did you ever update your uboot?) |
| 17:41.56 | break_free | i haven't updated the uboot... but booting from nand i get a backlit blank screen which looks more promising |
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| 17:43.00 | F4t | break_free, wait about 5 minutes in the back-lit black screen, see if android logo appears |
| 17:43.39 | break_free | F4t, got the android logo and pulsing dude |
| 17:44.24 | break_free | F4t, it worked, thanks |
| 17:44.57 | mwester | wishes he had some idea what his android "make" is doing... :D |
| 17:45.00 | F4t | break_free, np, have fun, and dont discharge the batery too much (dont think android is capable of charging from usb) |
| 17:45.20 | toggles_w | mwester: looking for the keyboard |
| 17:45.30 | break_free | oh... that sucks |
| 17:45.42 | break_free | F4t, it's showing the charging icon |
| 17:45.47 | mwester | target thumb C++: libwebcore <= external/webkit/WebCore/html/HTMLButtonElement.cpp |
| 17:46.08 | mwester | I'd like to know where it found a C++ compiler... or if it built it's own toolchain already... :D |
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| 17:46.27 | F4t | break_free, it also lit the orange led in the power button for me, but watch the battery power level, mine never raised |
| 17:46.51 | mwester | The orange led suffers a bit from lack of information. |
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| 17:47.27 | mwester | I'd like to see it "pulse" in a pattern that would indicate if it's the 100ma low charge, the 500ma USB charge, or the 1A charge. |
| 17:47.47 | mwester | I just haven't gotten around to actually writing any patches to do that. :) |
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| 17:47.49 | F4t | would you like it to bring you cofee? |
| 17:47.53 | mwester | Yes. |
| 17:47.58 | mwester | Tick has one with legs. |
| 17:48.01 | F4t | and patch its own code... |
| 17:48.02 | mwester | That's a start. |
| 17:48.07 | F4t | hehe |
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| 17:48.37 | mwester | The led is a kernel thing, so that's independent of user-space. |
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| 17:51.36 | break_free | anyone working on a on-screen keyboard for android? |
| 17:52.08 | toggles_w | break_free: Dave is |
| 17:52.12 | break_free | nice |
| 17:52.26 | toggles_w | break_free: kidding |
| 17:52.39 | toggles_w | but he takes all android questions for noone pesters mwester |
| 17:52.47 | F4t | Dave is also working on a real downloadable sliding keyboard, to make it like the G1 device... |
| 17:52.57 | toggles_w | and the camera drivers |
| 17:53.07 | Dave | and a cup holder |
| 17:53.23 | F4t | sun-bed? |
| 17:53.30 | Kensan|work | Dave: we should call mwesters clients and tell them that he is busy ;) |
| 17:53.32 | toggles_w | after the kitchen sink |
| 17:53.46 | break_free | haha |
| 17:54.08 | Dave | :p |
| 17:54.27 | toggles_w | dammit where did the debina packages go? |
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| 18:16.14 | bricode | mwester: beware the Android toolchain is broken for ARMv4. |
| 18:16.35 | Dave | \o/ |
| 18:16.59 | Dave | Beware, the coming droid army... |
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| 18:17.22 | mwester | bricode: Does it build to completion, or does the build fail? |
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| 18:19.02 | bricode | mwester: Oh, it builds to completion. But when you run it, it just crashes with an illegal instruction. |
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| 18:19.06 | bricode | Super handy. |
| 18:19.14 | Dave | hot |
| 18:19.29 | Dave | that's almost as good as trap error -13 |
| 18:19.51 | bricode | I've been cursing so uch in the last week as I had to build a new toolchain, patch the tree (with patches from Sean and Ben), and build. |
| 18:19.56 | bricode | Ditto with kernel. |
| 18:20.14 | mwester | Ah, ok. Well, it'll do for my 9-5 job. (it turns out that one of my customers will be working with Android, so I need to do a little work to support them -- kinda nice when your real job and your hobby intersect (even though I really don't like Java at all)) |
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| 18:21.43 | bricode | I've got a toolchain should you like it. |
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| 18:30.44 | Dave | Mwester :) |
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| 18:35.12 | muhxe | my debian installation alwasy exits because unmount fails, because "device is busy", but i cant tell which programm blocks the card |
| 18:35.28 | muhxe | does someone knows a solution? |
| 18:35.41 | F4t | /etc/init.d/qpe stop |
| 18:35.47 | muhxe | i did that |
| 18:35.52 | F4t | killall qpe |
| 18:36.08 | muhxe | in fact the second one is what i did ;) |
| 18:36.17 | muhxe | the first one didnt work afterwards |
| 18:36.19 | F4t | not much else should be accessing the sd card... :- |
| 18:36.20 | cjb_ie | see if you have fuser or lsof to tell you what's keeping stuff open |
| 18:36.21 | F4t | :-/ |
| 18:38.05 | muhxe | mhh sh |
| 18:38.29 | muhxe | fuser /media/card tells me a pid which should be sh |
| 18:38.51 | muhxe | :) |
| 18:39.21 | jonkristian | splash-write not found in qte, any ideas? |
| 18:39.53 | jonkristian | nvmnd, hehe |
| 18:41.20 | peter___ | hi there, I am wondering if there is any possiblity to get some output or boot log from the Android kernel on the SD card where the other stuff is written (ext3 partition) or console? |
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| 18:45.28 | muhxe | ok i rebooted and now nothing blocks my SD, thanks |
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| 18:47.40 | bricode | peter___: Android is fairly difficult to get into and debug at the moment. I've been running it in a chroot environment under Debian for debugging. |
| 18:47.45 | nemik | so...qt for embedded, is that different from qt-extended? |
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| 18:52.36 | peter___ | bricode: thanks! so, if I am getting the red flashing LED, data is written to the ext3 partition on the SD card, I am basically out of luck and have to wait until something more verbose is available to track this down? |
| 18:53.18 | bricode | Red flashing LED usually means kernel panic from what I've seen. |
| 18:53.48 | peter___ | yeah, question is why, the SD card is clearly ok, there is the android data on it, dalvik cache etc |
| 18:54.06 | bricode | What type of sd card are you using? |
| 18:54.15 | peter___ | 1 GB SD, not HC |
| 18:54.36 | peter___ | FAT 200M, rest ext3 |
| 18:54.50 | bricode | Humm. Weird. |
| 18:55.04 | bricode | Did you flash the rootfs and kernel to the internal nand/ |
| 18:55.16 | F4t | I have 4GB SDHC, android boots aswell |
| 18:56.26 | peter___ | well, I flashed after booting into NOR mode, but I am not too sure about exactly what the difference between NOR and DFU mode is, seems dfu-util reports more stuff in DFU mode than in simple NOR mode? |
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| 18:56.49 | peter___ | adn after that I started from the NOR menu, and after that from the NAND menu |
| 18:57.03 | bricode | peter___: I've had some problems with NOR and almost exclusively use NAND booting. |
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| 18:57.32 | peter___ | so, you get into NAND menu, flash, and start from NAND? |
| 18:57.51 | bricode | No. NOR menu, flash, nand menu, boot. |
| 18:58.31 | peter___ | ok, will try that ... |
| 19:01.18 | peter___ | thanks for the help guys! |
| 19:01.40 | peter___ | not that it is working but for trying :) |
| 19:02.15 | bricode | I've had problems with a 2GB and a 4GB card. |
| 19:05.19 | peter___ | if the card doesn't work, then there would not be any data on the partitions right? it is in my case so I guess that part is working |
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| 19:05.44 | peter___ | there are the apps deployed under /data, the /dalvik-cache is there and a bunch of other stuff |
| 19:05.55 | bricode | peter___: Android is pretty fussy. If it can't open/change a file, it dies. |
| 19:06.02 | bricode | Also, it takes a fiar while to boot up. |
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| 19:13.10 | mwester | wonders when somebody is going to edit that totally bogus wiki page that encourages everyone to use NOR u-boot when flashing --- rather like telling skydivers to use the reserve chute first. |
| 19:13.44 | Fougner | wonders when mwester will fix the wiki |
| 19:14.00 | Fougner | Hi mwester :D |
| 19:14.58 | toggles_w | hates it when he has to use the reserve |
| 19:15.35 | Fougner | haha toggles_w |
| 19:16.00 | toggles_w | i'm serious, its $60 + a bottle of whiskey plus the wait for the repack |
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| 19:16.45 | toggles_w | luckily for me, it's only happend once and i had a stu on the front of me, so the biz covered all but the whiskey ;-) |
| 19:16.49 | mwester | Whatever you do, do NOT rush the guy or gal packing your reserve. |
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| 19:17.01 | toggles_w | mwester: it was my x wife |
| 19:17.03 | mwester | I jumped once. And only once. |
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| 19:17.34 | cjb_ie | so would you recommend giving them the whiskey after the repack, then? |
| 19:17.50 | mwester | A week after I jumped, one of the instructors (the one who packed the chutes for us) was killed when her chute wouldn't open correctly, couldn't be cut away for some reason, and tangled the reserve. |
| 19:18.00 | toggles_w | yeah, it's part of the tradition, you give them a bottle for saving your life |
| 19:18.02 | mwester | I decided once was enough. |
| 19:18.11 | jonkristian | any sort of gps app for qte atm? looking at tangogps but it doesn't say anything about qte. |
| 19:18.37 | toggles_w | mwester: that sucks, i've been in the sport over 10 years, i loose a friend about once every 3 |
| 19:18.51 | mwester | It's a dangerous sport. A heck of a rush, though. |
| 19:19.13 | toggles_w | most deaths have resulted from their other "fun" activities though |
| 19:19.43 | toggles_w | a typical satuday http://www.tommywatson.com/phlog/060624/ |
| 19:21.56 | toggles_w | mwester: skydive chicago? |
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| 19:30.20 | mwester | toggles_w: Not sure. It was a place near Ottawa, IL I think they closed some time ago. |
| 19:31.39 | toggles_w | nope, chicago is still in buisiness.. |
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| 19:33.04 | mwester | And it was longer than 18 years ago, too, now that I think about it... (dang, I'm old!) |
| 19:33.20 | SpeedEvil | passes mwester some slippers. |
| 19:34.11 | mwester | Got some right here, beside the little table with my bifocals and the glass for my false teeth. ;) |
| 19:34.18 | jonkristian | oh skydiving:) |
| 19:34.40 | jonkristian | My sister skydives, I've only tried tandem, but it's amazing:D |
| 19:35.39 | Kensan | mwester: ping |
| 19:36.06 | mwester | splat |
| 19:36.24 | holycow | i found skydiving horribly boring |
| 19:36.39 | Kensan | mwester: are you busy or could you help me get the debugboard going? |
| 19:37.00 | mwester | I have 15 or 20 minutes before I need to leave for my next meeting. |
| 19:37.15 | Kensan | oh k |
| 19:37.29 | mwester | Did you see my pastebin? |
| 19:37.42 | neldoreth | no |
| 19:38.03 | Kensan | mwester: err no, which one? |
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| 19:38.17 | mwester | From yesterday (late) with the env info |
| 19:38.52 | Kensan | found it |
| 19:39.07 | nemik | any of you guys tried the new qt 4.5 snapshots? |
| 19:39.13 | neldoreth | yeah |
| 19:39.23 | nemik | how is it? |
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| 19:41.14 | jonkristian | qt or qte? |
| 19:41.58 | nemik | see, i don't get that, what's the difference? there's a qt-embedded i'm trying now. so that's not qte? |
| 19:42.04 | nemik | i don't get their naming things |
| 19:42.10 | jonkristian | nemik: got an url? |
| 19:42.23 | jonkristian | qt-embedded, never heard of, im running qte 4.4.2 |
| 19:42.36 | nemik | http://trolltech.com/products/products/device-creation/embedded-linux |
| 19:42.53 | jonkristian | on your fr?? |
| 19:43.27 | nemik | i'm just compiling it now, haven't tried running it |
| 19:46.20 | Kensan | mwester: have you seen such a message when connecting to uboot? "Unrecognized hardware revision 0x305. Defaulting to GTA02v6." |
| 19:46.49 | mwester | No. I wonder if your u-boot is a bit old, though. |
| 19:47.10 | jonkristian | qt for embedded linux |
| 19:47.10 | jonkristian | hm, no idea |
| 19:48.21 | Kensan | aug 26 2008 |
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| 19:54.23 | nemik | jonkristian: is wifi and bluetooth working for you on 4.4.2? and are you using mwester's kernel? |
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| 20:08.35 | jonkristian | nemik: yes and yes |
| 20:09.08 | jonkristian | nemik: actually, i haven't tested wifi yet, but i can scan and stuff, so i guess it should work |
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| 20:09.20 | nemik | hmm i'm doing somehting wrong then. tells me BT is off and not found |
| 20:09.39 | jonkristian | nemik: there's a new image for 4.4.2 |
| 20:09.44 | jonkristian | nemik: which as bt |
| 20:09.59 | nemik | ah, got a link? |
| 20:10.16 | jonkristian | http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2 |
| 20:10.30 | jonkristian | that's the one im using, wit mwester's kernel, working very well i think |
| 20:10.48 | nemik | nice! thank you |
| 20:11.17 | jonkristian | at least 'til now, yeah no problem |
| 20:11.18 | jonkristian | goes to watch the final episode of the wire |
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| 20:22.44 | Fougner | =D |
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| 20:36.10 | toggles_w | does fso daily support suspend at all? |
| 20:36.37 | Basheri | vois mennä-> |
| 20:36.49 | Basheri | sorry, wrong channel |
| 20:39.20 | dent | anybody looked into the FSO terminal issue? (http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/196) |
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| 20:43.25 | samgee | dent, I've been trying to for the past few days, but I can't figure out how to get started |
| 20:43.38 | samgee | where is the source for that? |
| 20:43.57 | dent | lol similar here :) |
| 20:44.09 | dent | well, look into the bitbake recipe I guess |
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| 20:45.40 | samgee | why can't there be any easy instructions on where to get the source and how to work with it? :( |
| 20:45.56 | Sargun | samgee, there aren't |
| 20:46.01 | Sargun | what are you trying to develop with? |
| 20:46.17 | mwester | samgee: because building entire distros is not an easy thing? |
| 20:46.35 | samgee | Sargun, I can't even figure that out |
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| 20:46.59 | samgee | mwester, I get that, but openmoko seems to be all over the place |
| 20:47.20 | dent | I guess the thing it to grasp OE/bitbake.. then it should be easier |
| 20:47.30 | Sargun | samgee, I would say easiest development methodology: install Debian + FSO, then develop in Python |
| 20:47.33 | dent | pity that whatever I read a month ago I forgot again |
| 20:47.37 | mwester | samgee: Yes, because the bits for Linux are all over the place. |
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| 20:49.09 | samgee | ok, but I want to fix the terminal bug, how would I do that? |
| 20:49.21 | samgee | that specific to OM, isn't it? |
| 20:50.44 | dent | I'd say... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO |
| 20:50.46 | dent | get the environment set up |
| 20:50.58 | dent | (but I'm also a noob, so...) |
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| 20:52.22 | mwester | I think dent is right. Step one is to get the environment right. As a side effect of that, the environment will know where the bits all come from, and that question too will be answered. |
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| 20:53.27 | samgee | ah, ok, I thought it was possible to get started with just one (or a few) packages and gcc |
| 20:53.36 | samgee | I'll do some more experimenting later |
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| 20:53.46 | dent | well, ypou could get the toolchain... |
| 20:53.53 | samgee | gotta go now, but you're not rid of me that easy :) |
| 20:54.00 | dent | but that somehow didn't work for me |
| 20:54.04 | dent | samgee :)_ |
| 20:54.20 | dent | I'm also trying to poke around that terminal issue, as it's annoying :) |
| 20:54.51 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03werner * r4772 10/developers/werner/ttcp/ (. Makefile README stderr.patch): Build process for old SGI ttcp. |
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| 21:03.02 | sepultina | hello |
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| 21:07.11 | q0b | hi! .. is it possible to save the pin on the fr? (om2008/09) |
| 21:08.25 | dolf1074 | Do you mean that you want to disable the PIN security on your SIM ? |
| 21:08.59 | dolf1074 | That can you do with Qt extended and only with that distribution |
| 21:09.02 | q0b | yes .. or just store my gsm pin on the device, that it can be automatically used |
| 21:09.25 | dolf1074 | You cannot store it on the device |
| 21:10.03 | dolf1074 | but you can disable the pin security by putting you SIM into another worikng phone and disable PIN security |
| 21:11.19 | q0b | dolf1074: when you're talking aboutn pin security.. it is already possible for me.. to just not enter the pin and use the my fr .. |
| 21:12.08 | dolf1074 | yes (but you can't call or sms) |
| 21:12.29 | dolf1074 | just close the application that ask for the PIN |
| 21:12.30 | q0b | dolf1074: i want to "auto"-enable gsm .. since i've testing and programming around the keyboard interfacing .. it's kind of tricky to use the phone in the progress |
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| 21:13.04 | q0b | dolf1074: or is there a way to start the pin-entry programm later? |
| 21:13.35 | dolf1074 | probably yes |
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| 21:13.39 | dolf1074 | but I don't know how |
| 21:17.36 | q0b | dolf1074: thanks anyhow.. |
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| 21:40.19 | sepultina | Can i use "dfu-util" in debian sid or is it only for ubuntu? |
| 21:41.15 | yabo | sid? |
| 21:41.23 | F4t | sid = unstable |
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| 21:41.40 | Ke | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=dfu&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 21:41.41 | BluesLee | sepultina: use it with whatever you want |
| 21:41.44 | yabo | i think dfu-util works on all distros |
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| 21:41.49 | yabo | worked for me on slackware |
| 21:42.07 | Ke | learn to use packages.debian.org |
| 21:42.44 | Moniker42 | someone talk me out of buying an android G1 :P |
| 21:42.55 | Ke | you suck |
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| 21:43.55 | sepultina | Ke: Ah yes, now i can see it. Thanks |
| 21:45.02 | jonkristian | :D |
| 21:45.57 | Moniker42 | heh... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3174/2961546255_29d9fbec38.jpg |
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| 21:46.31 | Moniker42 | ah, seriously though, i'm not looking to troll -- has anyone here considered a G1 and decided against in favour of the freerunner? :P |
| 21:47.53 | F4t | g1 could be cool, but its a pretty limited system unless you "root" it.. |
| 21:47.55 | Wonka | when i bought my FR, the G1 was not out yet |
| 21:48.00 | F4t | and no usb-host capabilities :) |
| 21:48.03 | Wonka | but i'd still take the FR |
| 21:48.16 | F4t | i agree with wonka :) |
| 21:48.21 | jonkristian | Yeah |
| 21:48.29 | sepultina | Sorry again, first update the kernel and then the rootfs? or no reason? |
| 21:48.33 | dolf1074 | With the G1, you have a working system. Who wants that :p |
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| 21:48.52 | jonkristian | Yeah, it doesn't really tickle my brain |
| 21:48.58 | Wonka | dolf1074: the rest of the Android port won't take very long, i think |
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| 21:49.10 | mwester | Wonka: but it still won't make a working phone. |
| 21:49.11 | dolf1074 | Wonka: it will take a long time |
| 21:49.13 | Wonka | sepultina: should make no difference |
| 21:49.19 | Ke | Moniker42: android has practically nothing to with openmoko |
| 21:49.23 | Wonka | sepultina: especially with neotool |
| 21:49.27 | dolf1074 | Wonka: because an onscreen keyboard isn't made that quick |
| 21:49.29 | Moniker42 | yes |
| 21:49.44 | jonkristian | Who said anything about a non-working phone? My FR works great |
| 21:49.50 | Moniker42 | but openmoko was firmly on my christmas shopping list until a few weeks ago ;) |
| 21:49.52 | Wonka | dolf1074: "aptitude install xvkbd matchbox-keyboard" and you got two :) |
| 21:49.52 | m0nt0 | yeah, may be also the WSoD solution wouldn't take too long, so you'll got a fully functional phone also with the FR |
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| 21:50.06 | dolf1074 | Wonka: not on android |
| 21:50.18 | Moniker42 | will Android ever be able to run on the freerunner? |
| 21:50.20 | toggles_w | jonkristian: as a paper weight? |
| 21:50.22 | mwester | jonkristian: Please share! Do you have patches? |
| 21:50.26 | Wonka | mwester: hm, i made one call yet, and that one worked perfectly... ;) |
| 21:50.36 | dolf1074 | Moniker42: It already does |
| 21:51.07 | Ke | btw with gta03 have holder for the touchscreen stylus? |
| 21:51.15 | Ke | will |
| 21:51.35 | mwester | Wonka: ah. well if that's the measure of "working"... |
| 21:51.40 | CIA-51 | openmoko: 03werner * r4773 10/developers/werner/poke/Makefile: Add standard make targets "clean" and "spotless". |
| 21:51.41 | jonkristian | mwester: No, im using qte-4.4.2 with bt fix and your kernel |
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| 21:52.07 | Wonka | mwester: i meant, i don't remember any echo or other bad voice quality |
| 21:52.22 | mwester | jonkristian: IMO that's probably the closest to working, but there's a looooong list of prtty basic things that are non-functional or missing altogether. :( |
| 21:53.16 | mwester | bluetooth, battery life, wifi, bugs 666 and 1024,... just to name a few of the big ones we (or Om) still need to fix. |
| 21:53.32 | jonkristian | Yeah |
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| 21:54.10 | jonkristian | mwester: what's wrong with bluetooth? |
| 21:54.26 | jonkristian | Seems to work pretty well here, i can search devices and pair them aswell. |
| 21:54.57 | drscream | mwester: i've heard that you are searching an openmoko freerunner that has the wtod (white screen of death) problem? |
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| 21:55.55 | Kensan | mwester: did you see werners commit? I wonder what he is up to, poke sounds like a funny tool :) |
| 21:56.55 | Ke | btw how far are typical openmoko kernels from mainline linux? |
| 21:57.27 | Kensan | Ke: what do you mean by far? The current stable is 2.6.24 so |
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| 21:57.52 | Ke | how much of the code has been merged into mainline linux |
| 21:58.07 | Ke | judging by that number, not much |
| 21:58.35 | Kensan | Ke: yeah pretty much. |
| 22:00.36 | Ke | that's sad =o( |
| 22:01.28 | Kensan | Ke: see here for the current patchset against 2.6.28-rc3: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=mokopatches-tracking |
| 22:01.47 | Ke | yay, there is some effort then |
| 22:01.49 | Kensan | Ke: obviously that's not working |
| 22:02.07 | Kensan | Ke: hmm... not as much as would be needed. |
| 22:02.23 | Kensan | Ke: I think except for the resume issue it is pretty close on 2.6.26 |
| 22:03.11 | Kensan | Ke: simply having a git-branch which tracks upstream does not automatically mean the amount of work to get the patches upstream will get any less... |
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| 22:03.45 | Ke | wouldn't that still be the proper thing to do |
| 22:03.47 | Fougner_ | mwester, jonkristian said his phone worked well with your kernel and a bt-patch? |
| 22:03.57 | yabo | hai, I'm using om2008.9. when i try to extract files with tar (zxf) i get tar: invalid tar magic |
| 22:03.59 | yabo | what is wrong? |
| 22:04.02 | Kensan | Ke: if (and that's a big if) someone were to at least test-compile the tracking branch one would get a heads up on compile breakage but thats about it. |
| 22:04.07 | Kensan | Ke: of course |
| 22:04.26 | Kensan | Ke: the goal must be to get everything (well almost) upstream. |
| 22:04.42 | Ke | yes |
| 22:05.28 | mwester | Somebody has bluetooth headset working with Qtx? |
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| 22:09.28 | mwester | Ke: Om has a kernel dev they hired to get the working bits cleaned up and submitted upstream to the kernel. For the GTA03 they proactively hired the kernel manager for the Samsung SoCs to write the support for the processor, so that support will be part of the mainstream kernel from day 1. |
| 22:10.04 | Kensan | mwester: is balaji doing the cleaning/submitting? |
| 22:10.25 | mwester | yabo: There should be a package you can install to provide the full "tar" binary; IIRC the problem is that the busybox version of tar that's part of the base install was missing an option when it was built, so it cannot handle certain types of tar files. |
| 22:10.29 | Ke | hugs mwester |
| 22:10.29 | mwester | Kensan: Yep. |
| 22:10.34 | nemik | mwester: i'll try a BT headset when i get home; have to flash new Qtx with bt fix first |
| 22:10.49 | mwester | Kensan: BTW, I need to take back something I said earlier today. |
| 22:10.52 | Kensan | mwester: is the stable-2.6.26 not kept up to date? It does not contain all patches on stable |
| 22:11.09 | Kensan | mwester: what's that? |
| 22:11.12 | mwester | Balaji found the charging problem already. |
| 22:11.33 | Kensan | mwester: charging problem? |
| 22:11.47 | mwester | Yeah, the one where the GTA02 won't charge when plugged into USB. |
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| 22:12.35 | mwester | Turns out it was a simple defconfig option, it needed a new config item to tell it what the max current was, and without it, it defaulted to zero charge current. |
| 22:13.29 | Fougner_ | nemik, what's Qtx? =) |
| 22:13.29 | Kensan | mwester: yeah just read the mail :) |
| 22:13.30 | mwester | Stable-2.6.26 is supposed to be current; it will be missing patches that do not apply or are not relevant to that kernel release. |
| 22:13.30 | Kensan | mwester: well to "2" *hehe* |
| 22:13.38 | Kensan | mwester: well the jitter patch is not in there. and also the jffs2-gc one. |
| 22:13.43 | mwester | Since that's what Android is based on, I would expect that Andy should be keeping close watch on it. |
| 22:14.05 | mwester | Hmmm... Ok. good point on the two patches. |
| 22:14.35 | mwester | Perhaps Andy just needs a reminder to apply those... |
| 22:14.35 | Kensan | mwester: well jffs2 is neglectable but I imagine the jitter is of more interest. |
| 22:15.29 | yabo | oh thanks, mwester |
| 22:15.55 | Kensan | mwester: do you have the bug# of the resume-bug handy? |
| 22:16.08 | mwester | WSoD bug? |
| 22:16.31 | mwester | 1841 |
| 22:16.41 | Kensan | mwester: yeah, thanks. |
| 22:17.31 | Kensan | mwester: I wanted to try so many things this weekend but now other stuff with higher prio has come up :( |
| 22:17.41 | mwester | uh-oh. |
| 22:18.25 | mwester | Ok. I'm still working to get an updated rootfs and toolchain for Qtx that's been taking all my free time. |
| 22:18.52 | mwester | But it just built - finally. And the rootfs is mostly good. :) |
| 22:19.11 | mwester | So if there's something we need to do to fix the Bluetooth, I'm really interested to know! |
| 22:19.14 | yabo | mwester, where can i find the package of which you spoke? i looked in rabenfrost.net/celtune and downloads.openmoko.org and i could not find it |
| 22:19.49 | mwester | It would be something like "opkg install tar", and should be in your standard feeds, I would expect. |
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| 22:20.23 | yabo | oh okay |
| 22:20.24 | yabo | thanks |
| 22:20.30 | Kensan | mwester: Qtx? |
| 22:20.35 | Kensan | mwester: how come? |
| 22:21.01 | mwester | how come what? |
| 22:21.20 | mwester | how come I'm building a toolchain and rootfs for Qtx? |
| 22:21.35 | mwester | because nobody else would. |
| 22:21.37 | mwester | :(* |
| 22:21.41 | mwester | er, :( |
| 22:22.00 | drscream | mwester: i could mail you a freerunner with a wsod bug, if you interessted please contact me :-) |
| 22:22.33 | mwester | drscream: Cool. are you in the US somewhere? |
| 22:22.50 | Kensan | mwester: yeah, I didn't know you were working on Qtx too :) |
| 22:22.53 | drscream | nope in germany |
| 22:23.06 | Kensan | drscream: even better :) |
| 22:23.37 | yabo | so i have this open wlan-network here |
| 22:23.46 | yabo | what do i do to connect? :| |
| 22:24.04 | yabo | i dont get linux and wlans |
| 22:24.36 | mwester | drscream: Ok. Thanks - I'll keep that in mind; I'm going to bug Michael Shiloh (Om) a bit first to see if Om can loan one here in the US. If that doesn't work, I'll ping you! |
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| 22:25.42 | drscream | ok no problem, if you are interessted you can contact me via mail: openmoko@cyber-tec.org |
| 22:27.00 | mwester | Kensan: I believe in the concept of FSO -- and I think that making it easy for Qtx to be based on an FSO (i.e. non-Openmoko) rootfs and kernel is going to be the long-term best solution. Mickey agrees, but nobody has had time to create the trimmed-down rootfs, or the toolchain. So I decided to do it. |
| 22:27.33 | mwester | I thought it would be a lot simpler than it turned out to be... in a lot of ways, kernels are a lot easier :) |
| 22:28.09 | Kensan | mwester: seriously, where do you take all that energy? You put so much hard work into this it makes everybody else look like fscking freeloaders |
| 22:28.09 | mwester | anyway, 2 minutes to my last meeting of the day -- and then the weekend. Back a bit later! |
| 22:28.12 | Kensan | :) |
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| 22:30.52 | dent | yabo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi |
| 22:31.02 | yabo | thanks |
| 22:31.21 | dent | n/p |
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| 22:39.50 | yabo | DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 |
| 22:40.16 | yabo | i take it i need to make it dhcprequest to 192.168.1.1 or whatever is the dhcp-server right? |
| 22:40.26 | duffolonious | yabo: if dhclient doesn't work for you, just set your ip manually |
| 22:40.35 | duffolonious | ... and set the route manually (kind of sucks) |
| 22:40.56 | Kensan | yabo: no, the dhcp request goes out to broadcast: the dhcp server should reply |
| 22:41.07 | duffolonious | I have to do that because dhclient appears to not like the dhcp offer from my router |
| 22:41.24 | Kensan | duffolonious: how come? what does it say? |
| 22:41.35 | duffolonious | yabo: oh, if you aren't getting an offer than you have a different problem |
| 22:41.56 | yabo | oh, so DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 means it looks through 255.255.255.255 for a dhcp-server? |
| 22:41.57 | duffolonious | Kensan: it does DHCPREQUEST on eth0 |
| 22:42.12 | duffolonious | then I get an offer "DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1" or some such thing |
| 22:42.30 | duffolonious | and then the phone sends a DHCPDECLINE |
| 22:42.33 | yabo | i didnt get DHCPIFFER |
| 22:42.36 | yabo | offer* |
| 22:42.37 | yabo | but i got |
| 22:42.44 | duffolonious | and is goes on like this for ... ever |
| 22:42.46 | yabo | DHCPACK from 192.168.2.1 |
| 22:43.10 | yabo | i also got DHCPDECLINE on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 |
| 22:43.18 | Kensan | duffolonious: hm, maybe you can raise the log level? It should say why it is declining. |
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| 22:43.53 | yabo | how do i set my ip manually? |
| 22:43.58 | duffolonious | Kensan: ok, will do. |
| 22:44.05 | Kensan | oh wait |
| 22:44.25 | Kensan | it means that the phone believes the ip address that was offered is already taken |
| 22:46.51 | yabo | pokes |
| 22:46.58 | yabo | so what do i do? i want to get online :| |
| 22:47.28 | Kensan | duffolonious: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1082155 |
| 22:47.33 | Kensan | yabo: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1082155 |
| 22:47.57 | Kensan | yabo: Use udhcpc instead of dhclient |
| 22:48.13 | Kensan | udhcpc eth0 |
| 22:48.39 | yabo | thanks! |
| 22:49.12 | yabo | wohoo |
| 22:49.16 | yabo | thanks a bunch, kensan! |
| 22:49.30 | Kensan | :) |
| 22:49.32 | yabo | maybe someone could add that to the wiki? |
| 22:49.41 | yabo | the wiki tells you to |
| 22:49.41 | yabo | root@om-gta02:~# ifup eth0 |
| 22:49.41 | yabo | root@om-gta02:~# wpa_supplicant -ieth0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -B |
| 22:49.41 | yabo | root@om-gta02:~# udhcpc eth0 |
| 22:49.47 | yabo | wait |
| 22:49.50 | yabo | facepalms |
| 22:49.53 | yabo | headdesks |
| 22:49.55 | Kensan | heh |
| 22:49.55 | yabo | headwalls |
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| 22:50.41 | duffolonious | btw, the openmoko does work on at&t 71234 O |
| 22:50.48 | duffolonious | (sim card) |
| 22:52.07 | yabo | mwester, are you still here? |
| 22:52.39 | yabo | opkg install tar does not work.. i tried opkg list | grep tar, but i couldnt find anything that looks like what i need |
| 22:53.07 | duffolonious | Kensan: so use udhcpc. I wonder where I set that so the GUI will use that instead of dhclient. |
| 22:53.45 | yabo | by the way, to get the make command. do i need to opkg install automake? is that correct? |
| 22:54.03 | Kensan | duffolonious: what distro are you using? |
| 22:54.19 | duffolonious | Kensan: openmoko |
| 22:54.34 | Kensan | duffolonious: as a quick workaround you could soflink dhclient to udhcpc |
| 22:54.46 | duffolonious | Kensan: sure |
| 22:54.55 | duffolonious | I'll do that. |
| 22:55.52 | Kensan | yabo: what do you want to compile? |
| 22:56.07 | Kensan | yabo: do you really want to compile on the phone? |
| 22:56.17 | Kensan | s/want/need/ |
| 22:56.37 | yabo | yes |
| 22:56.50 | yabo | i think so? |
| 22:56.55 | yabo | to install stuff that is not ipk |
| 22:57.48 | dent | yabo: there's a bitbake recipe for tar in openembedded |
| 22:57.50 | Kensan | yabo: you could cross-compile which would be a lot faster. |
| 22:58.07 | Kensan | yabo: there's a lot of software in openembedded... |
| 22:58.12 | yabo | i dont know how, Kensan |
| 22:58.30 | yabo | to cross-compile, that is |
| 22:58.33 | yabo | i never figured it out |
| 22:58.55 | Kensan | yabo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain |
| 22:59.39 | yabo | alright thanks, ill take a look |
| 22:59.43 | yabo | but i still want make on my phone |
| 22:59.48 | yabo | what can i do? |
| 22:59.59 | yabo | i have installed gcc |
| 23:00.44 | Kensan | yabo: install automake and friends |
| 23:01.03 | Kensan | there's packages for those |
| 23:01.13 | Kensan | you should be able to ipk/opkg them |
| 23:01.39 | yabo | root@om-gta02:~# opkg install automake |
| 23:01.39 | yabo | Installing automake (1.9.6-r0) to root... |
| 23:01.39 | yabo | Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/automake_1.9.6-r0_armv4t.opk |
| 23:01.39 | yabo | Collected errors: |
| 23:01.39 | yabo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.41 | yabo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.52 | yabo | let me know if i should stop pasting stuff like that.. |
| 23:02.02 | Kensan | yabo: did you "opkg update"? |
| 23:02.14 | Kensan | yabo: can you ping downloads.openmoko.org from the phone? |
| 23:02.23 | yabo | yes and yes |
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| 23:03.05 | Kensan | yabo: hm. |
| 23:03.13 | Kensan | yabo: can you wget the opk? |
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| 23:04.27 | yabo | no |
| 23:04.38 | yabo | but that reminds me i can download it in a browser and scp |
| 23:05.05 | Kensan | yabo: somebody else had a similar issue if I remember correctly but I don't remember what the real reason was. |
| 23:05.50 | yabo | wget did not work at all |
| 23:05.52 | yabo | it stopped at |
| 23:06.08 | yabo | Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org (88.198.93.219:80) |
| 23:06.11 | yabo | then nothing more |
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| 23:07.19 | slaxxin | YABO DID U PUTan ip in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 23:07.41 | Kensan | slaxxin: I assume so otherwise he would no be able to ping downloads.openmoko.org |
| 23:07.46 | yabo | yeah dns is configured, (note the Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org (88.198.93.219:80)) |
| 23:07.58 | yabo | and opkg usually works |
| 23:08.25 | yabo | what more than automake do i need to get the make -command? |
| 23:08.32 | yabo | or must i reboot or something? |
| 23:08.53 | yabo | it is installed now, but i still get -sh: make: not found |
| 23:09.19 | Kensan | yabo: how about make ;) |
| 23:09.38 | yabo | grins |
| 23:10.04 | Kensan | yabo: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/make_3.81-r0_armv4t.opk |
| 23:10.35 | yabo | sorry.. i try not to be the lazy and annoying noob, but every now and then i fail.. |
| 23:10.51 | yabo | now i got |
| 23:11.07 | yabo | ./bin/sh: gcc: not found |
| 23:11.20 | yabo | but i thought i installed gcc.. |
| 23:11.34 | nemik | isn't easier to just cross-compile than do all this on phone? |
| 23:11.40 | Kensan | nemik: it is |
| 23:11.47 | yabo | Package gcc (4.1.2-r12) installed in root is up to date. |
| 23:12.07 | nemik | maybe it uses cc instead of gcc? |
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| 23:12.15 | Kensan | nemik: but yabo wants make on his phone |
| 23:12.29 | Kensan | yabo: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gcc_4.1.2-r12_armv4t.opk |
| 23:12.29 | nemik | with OM, anything is possible |
| 23:12.32 | Kensan | ehm |
| 23:12.33 | Kensan | wait |
| 23:12.40 | Kensan | yabo: http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gcc-symlinks_4.1.2-r12_armv4t.opk |
| 23:12.46 | Kensan | maybe? |
| 23:13.08 | yabo | installing |
| 23:13.19 | dent | also maybe "opkg files gcc" might be useful, to see what it actually installed |
| 23:13.55 | yabo | gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 23:15.16 | Kensan | well I am off. need to get some sleep |
| 23:15.22 | Kensan | yabo: good luck |
| 23:15.31 | yabo | thanks for all your help, Kensan! |
| 23:15.49 | dent | on my ubuntu box there's cc1 in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.2/cc1 |
| 23:15.58 | Kensan | sure |
| 23:15.59 | dent | cc1 is some gcc's internasl helper |
| 23:16.10 | Kensan | night all |
| 23:16.19 | dent | night |
| 23:16.44 | dent | yabo: try find /usr -name cc1 |
| 23:16.50 | dent | if it's really missing |
| 23:17.01 | dent | or just gcc can't find it for some reason |
| 23:18.39 | yabo | dent, i got no output |
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| 23:18.58 | dent | then it's really missing |
| 23:19.13 | dent | maybe the gcc package is broken, I'd guess not many ppl tried it :) |
| 23:19.35 | lindi- | hides and points out to apt-get install gcc :) |
| 23:19.57 | dent | btw I get |
| 23:19.59 | yabo | 2008.9, lindi- :-R |
| 23:20.00 | dent | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.07 | dent | too, when I try to install gcc |
| 23:20.22 | yabo | yeah dent, i got problems with opkg earlier too "failed to download" |
| 23:20.31 | dent | I noticed |
| 23:20.39 | dent | while from pc I can d/l it without problems |
| 23:21.03 | dent | nah, my dns is broken... didn't notice :) |
| 23:21.36 | yabo | oh |
| 23:21.40 | yabo | so |
| 23:21.52 | yabo | im out of options and have to cross-compile? :R |
| 23:22.19 | dent | I'trying to install gcc to see what happens :) |
| 23:22.28 | yabo | okidoki |
| 23:22.33 | dent | but as everyone suggested crosscompile anyway... :-P |
| 23:22.56 | yabo | i wont have access to a desktop for much longer, so i need it on mah phone :-| |
| 23:23.48 | dent | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory |
| 23:23.52 | dent | the same... |
| 23:23.55 | yabo | muh :| |
| 23:24.33 | yabo | i have to go now |
| 23:24.41 | yabo | bai |
| 23:24.47 | yabo | thanks for all the help! |
| 23:24.58 | balrog-k1n | dent: i did download some .ipk's from some openmoko.org site once and had a working gcc |
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| 23:25.58 | dent | yeah I guess that's the secret |
| 23:26.09 | dent | I'm trying to install g++ now to see what happens |
| 23:26.59 | dent | hm... the final frontier: crosscompile on the FR for the PC :)) |
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| 23:37.40 | trains | hi |
| 23:37.51 | trains | openmoko tichy wiki says "Unfortunately tichy won't work yet, because of a bug in python-pygame in openmoko feeds. " |
| 23:38.11 | trains | does anybody know where i can get a working version of pygame |
| 23:38.12 | trains | ? |
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| 23:59.48 | Tetracomm | Hello |
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