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| 01:21.05 | Dave | echo |
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| 01:27.08 | Dave | Sargun. |
| 01:28.19 | Dave | Mwester. |
| 01:28.23 | Dave | Ieatlint. |
| 01:28.30 | Sargun | Dave..... |
| 01:28.36 | Sargun | I can't let you say that |
| 01:28.40 | Dave | >:o |
| 01:28.42 | Sargun | wraps his robotic arm around dave and kills him |
| 01:28.57 | Sargun | you should change your name really. |
| 01:29.02 | Dave | Hey, I'm back. |
| 01:29.22 | Dave | I had another guy :P |
| 01:30.35 | Dave | Sargun, what's new in your neck of the woods? |
| 01:31.40 | Sargun | nothing much |
| 01:31.44 | Sargun | its boring california |
| 01:31.48 | Sargun | we're in debt like no other. |
| 01:31.51 | Dave | hah! |
| 01:31.53 | Sargun | running out of money |
| 01:32.03 | Sargun | nobody is buying our paper. |
| 01:32.09 | Dave | I hope the Collectinator doesn't make a sequel... |
| 01:32.19 | Dave | ¬_¬ |
| 01:33.36 | mwester | is glad that Dave has learned NOT to annoy apt by using tildes. |
| 01:34.24 | Dave | Fuck that. |
| 01:34.34 | Dave | I'm better than that, Mwester :P |
| 01:34.38 | Dave | Fucking tildes... |
| 01:34.47 | Dave | ~_~ |
| 01:34.47 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 01:34.54 | Dave | uh oh, did that count? |
| 01:35.11 | Dave | Anyway, Mwester, bad news nobody... |
| 01:35.14 | Dave | The browser blows |
| 01:35.25 | Dave | the [qwerty] keyboard in qtopia is TERRIBLE |
| 01:35.37 | Dave | Honestly, the matchbox-keyboard from 2007 was BETTER and even THAT was shitty. |
| 01:35.46 | Dave | There are some blatant usability issues with alerts |
| 01:36.25 | mwester | So you prefer 2008.9, then? |
| 01:36.30 | Dave | also the sound scheme is funky and there seems to be no simple way to control it from the preferences menu which is rather unintuitive (plus you can't specify a message ringtone - why is it permanently grayed out?) |
| 01:36.48 | Dave | Mwester, the browser doesn't allow you to activate the keyboard in a password field |
| 01:36.56 | Dave | in fact it explicitly CLOSES it - what the fuck? |
| 01:37.18 | Dave | I know 2007 had something stupid like this too, but at least then you could manually trigger it (via taskbar) |
| 01:37.30 | Dave | but qtopia removes the fucking sticky button for it |
| 01:37.32 | Dave | (retarded) |
| 01:37.46 | Dave | so I was unable to even use the browser since I couldn't login to authenticate |
| 01:37.53 | mwester | shrugs, and wonders why people are complaining to him. |
| 01:38.14 | mwester | Did someone promise you that it would have a fully functional browser? |
| 01:38.34 | Dave | Yes, Lorn did :P |
| 01:38.34 | mwester | Or did someone just say that it worked better as a phone than other images? |
| 01:38.40 | Dave | aha |
| 01:38.48 | Dave | actually noone made any promises about anything |
| 01:39.06 | Dave | Hey, don't you start hating on me mister wester, YOU were the one ranting earlier! :P |
| 01:39.17 | mwester | On a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is the most basic Moto RAZR, and 1 is two tin cans and some string, where do the various images rate? |
| 01:39.18 | Dave | I remember specifically because you ended it with </RANT> :P |
| 01:39.28 | Dave | Wow |
| 01:39.33 | Dave | We should totally poll the community! |
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| 01:40.01 | Dave | Personally, I'm more partial to the styrofoam cups and yarn |
| 01:40.08 | Dave | That was just so cool! :P |
| 01:40.23 | mwester | I like my Treo -- rates 100 on the aforementioned scale. |
| 01:40.29 | Dave | haha |
| 01:40.31 | Dave | cheater :P |
| 01:40.46 | mwester | I said 10 for the most basic RAZR... not even a smart phone. |
| 01:40.53 | Dave | man, I'm sad to say, qtopia 4.3 was far better than this current crap they're trying to pass off |
| 01:41.06 | Dave | but CLEARLY it's like an alpha of the latest branch their going onto |
| 01:41.10 | Dave | it looks terrible too |
| 01:41.27 | Dave | a la you mentionings from earlier |
| 01:41.35 | mwester | If you put the "geek" factor aside (not too many people think that being able to ssh into your phone qualifies as "smart"), not a single image we have comes anywhere close to being on the scale. |
| 01:41.54 | Dave | WE DON'T NEED FUCKING MYSPACE/FACEBOOK INTEGRATION ON OUR FUCKING IMAGE... When simple things don't even work correctly!!! |
| 01:41.55 | mwester | 4.3 is still about. |
| 01:41.57 | Dave | ugggh |
| 01:42.09 | mwester | (unlike 2007.2) |
| 01:42.15 | Dave | yeah :p |
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| 01:42.22 | Dave | man, it's all coming back to 2007.2 |
| 01:42.32 | Dave | I hope more people than just us are seeing this... |
| 01:42.40 | Dave | What happened ohand... :( |
| 01:42.43 | Dave | You were so cool. |
| 01:42.54 | mwester | Ohand either quit, or got booted. |
| 01:43.02 | mwester | they were contracted by om |
| 01:43.27 | Dave | My understanding is they were fired. |
| 01:43.30 | mwester | I suppose it is possible that they finished the contract, but if so then that was one very strange contract. |
| 01:43.41 | Dave | Because OM decided that their visonary path diverged |
| 01:43.49 | Dave | hahaha |
| 01:44.00 | Dave | Mwester, even if that were so, it wouldn't surprise me the least. |
| 01:44.01 | Dave | :p |
| 01:44.08 | mwester | Yeah, Om has a great visionary at the helm, but I bet he doesn't use his own product. |
| 01:44.30 | Dave | doubtful |
| 01:44.33 | Dave | that fucker |
| 01:44.44 | mwester | There's a real simple fix. |
| 01:44.49 | mwester | Other companies have done it. |
| 01:45.06 | Dave | I'm going to fucking hunt him down, break into his house, and while he's sleeping... INSTALL DR-DOS ON ALL HIS COMPUTERS! |
| 01:45.14 | mwester | The order is issued that while on company time, all employees MUST use the company's product. |
| 01:45.37 | mwester | It's not necessary to install DR-DOS -- just make them all use the GTA02 with whatever image they choose... |
| 01:45.44 | Dave | Mwester, I'm not sure, that sounds good, but there is always the old mantra, Don't get high on your own supply ;) |
| 01:45.55 | Dave | Mwester, dude, we should make them use 2007.2 |
| 01:45.59 | Dave | and go from there :) |
| 01:46.01 | mwester | After the execs miss the 10th call from spouse or significant other, they'll start getting real. |
| 01:46.05 | Dave | I think it's sad we might see a replapse |
| 01:46.19 | ljp | last i recall 2007.2 was haaardly usable at all |
| 01:46.20 | Dave | honestly, I kind of do wish some of the various distros will go "Back to basics" |
| 01:46.29 | Dave | Hey, fuck you, Lorn! |
| 01:46.39 | mwester | If they are honest, then the "lost community" thread got someone's attention. But they'll soon forget. |
| 01:46.46 | Dave | Honestly, I can do more on my 2007 install than I can on qtopia, by far. |
| 01:46.48 | ljp | what crawled up your ass? |
| 01:46.56 | Dave | Lorn, qtx :) |
| 01:47.04 | mwester | anyway, got work to do. |
| 01:47.16 | ljp | the source is open, so grab an editor and start hackin |
| 01:47.19 | Dave | Mwester, I like your style. |
| 01:47.27 | ljp | and stop your complaining |
| 01:47.35 | ljp | and rudeness |
| 01:47.44 | ColdFyre | rrr i still have no sound on my freerunner |
| 01:47.50 | Dave | Lorn, give me an interface, and I'll reformat my various rants, complaints and general whining into coherent bug reports :) |
| 01:47.59 | ColdFyre | alsactl won't find any ards |
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| 01:48.06 | Dave | Coldfyre, uh oh |
| 01:48.18 | ColdFyre | yeah.. |
| 01:48.27 | ColdFyre | it worked at one point |
| 01:48.28 | ljp | http://trolltech.com/bugreport-form |
| 01:48.34 | Dave | hooray! |
| 01:48.45 | Dave | Just for informational purposes, who owns "qtopia" now? |
| 01:48.54 | Staticwave_Ace | there is no qtopia |
| 01:48.56 | Dave | since trolltech is no more, as far as I last understood? |
| 01:49.01 | Dave | staticwavec, yeah yeah |
| 01:49.03 | Staticwave_Ace | qtextended is owned by nokia |
| 01:49.09 | Dave | oh |
| 01:49.15 | Dave | so they sold out to nokia now? |
| 01:49.27 | Staticwave_Ace | nokia bought trolltech |
| 01:49.31 | Dave | oh - haha |
| 01:49.38 | Dave | maybe now we'll see some decent software? :P |
| 01:49.43 | slaxxin | i think yesterday when i said that qt extended wasgrteat dave somehoe skipped or lost continuity to ground or something |
| 01:49.45 | ljp | actually trolltech lives on as qtextended.org |
| 01:49.56 | Dave | slaxin, something like that. |
| 01:49.59 | slaxxin | sorry dave |
| 01:50.01 | Dave | Lorn, yes, thank you for that. |
| 01:50.07 | ljp | Dave: seems you have been living under a rock since january |
| 01:50.09 | Dave | Slaxin, don't worry, I wasn't swayed by your words. |
| 01:50.23 | Dave | Lorn, living on 2007.2 -- is that the same? :) |
| 01:50.46 | Staticwave_Ace | Dave: is 2007.2 updated and usable? I really liked it when I did use it |
| 01:50.47 | ljp | how can you even think 2007.2 is remotely usable |
| 01:51.05 | Dave | Yeah! |
| 01:51.26 | Dave | Need I publish an article? |
| 01:51.31 | Staticwave_Ace | please do |
| 01:51.44 | Dave | Also, qtopia isn't like linux |
| 01:51.47 | Dave | it's more of a mac |
| 01:51.56 | Dave | if that |
| 01:52.01 | slaxxin | thats a real problem |
| 01:52.02 | ljp | ummm linux is a kernel |
| 01:52.09 | Dave | (I'm not hating, just trying to draw some sort of usability similarity) |
| 01:53.08 | slaxxin | if this is the case why are everyone butting heads? |
| 01:53.10 | ljp | quite actually, a os x is more usable thant gnu/linux |
| 01:53.34 | Dave | :p |
| 01:53.45 | Dave | Yeah, it's too bad qtopia doesn't at least come in fruity colors then :P |
| 01:53.55 | Staticwave_Ace | lol |
| 01:54.11 | slaxxin | it appears that some things that should be complete arn't ? |
| 01:54.19 | Staticwave_Ace | I had to change back to qtopia 4.3.2 today |
| 01:54.21 | ljp | dave qtextended from Qt Software is not a finished product, it is a reference design |
| 01:54.30 | Staticwave_Ace | because I was missing SMSs |
| 01:54.46 | ljp | 4.4.2 will be more stable |
| 01:54.55 | Staticwave_Ace | I look forward to it |
| 01:55.03 | Staticwave_Ace | qtopia has impressed me thus far |
| 01:55.10 | slaxxin | me too |
| 01:55.11 | Dave | Lorn, I like where it's headed, as far as I can tell in my mind... |
| 01:55.14 | Staticwave_Ace | however, it still doesn't notify me about voicemail |
| 01:55.17 | Dave | I just hope it eventually *gets there* |
| 01:55.20 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.32 | Dave | Since thus far, the track record for openmoko distributions is like 0 and 7 |
| 01:56.04 | ljp | keep in mind qtextended is not meant to be a polished product |
| 01:56.12 | Staticwave_Ace | ljp: is qtopia *supposed* to inform me of voice mail? |
| 01:56.14 | slaxxin | but openmoko is what i use |
| 01:56.19 | Staticwave_Ace | ljp: more llike an SDK correct? |
| 01:57.05 | ljp | Staticwave_Ace: your provider does that usually by sending a message to you, which qtext sees and provides notification |
| 01:57.19 | Staticwave_Ace | hrm, because it works on other phones |
| 01:57.26 | Dave | Lorn, well, you've been doing a good job in whatever capacities you've been acting in, ... I hope no one fires you ;) |
| 01:57.42 | ljp | i doubt they will |
| 01:57.48 | ljp | they tend not to fire people |
| 01:57.56 | Dave | I guess |
| 01:58.12 | Dave | Just go in other directions? |
| 01:58.42 | Staticwave_Ace | anyone see welte's post re: openmoko today/yesteraday? |
| 01:59.01 | slaxxin | link us |
| 01:59.02 | Dave | haha |
| 01:59.06 | Dave | openmoko-yesterday? |
| 01:59.09 | Dave | hi-larious! |
| 01:59.26 | Dave | The real question being... would it leak worse than openmoko-today :P |
| 01:59.46 | Staticwave_Ace | http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2008/10/07/#20081007-uboot |
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| 02:02.23 | slaxxin | that pretty much is what i see |
| 02:02.50 | slaxxin | need to start working together BETTER |
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| 03:39.29 | slaxxin | http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS6221651914.html |
| 03:39.58 | slaxxin | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5091920579.html |
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| 04:47.41 | mickey|tw | ~seen abraxa_ |
| 04:47.43 | apt | abraxa_ <n=abraxa@nv-76-0-206-49.dhcp.embarqhsd.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 35d 12h 38m 53s ago, saying: 'thebishop: Well, there are no "variants" manufactured, so no variants to buy. You'd have to get a complete phone and toss the parts you don't want'. |
| 04:48.11 | mickey|tw | ~seen TimRiker |
| 04:48.12 | apt | timriker <n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker> was last seen on IRC in channel #android, 1d 7h 56m 48s ago, saying: 'they could just wait and see, but it would be useful to have some more information.'. |
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| 04:52.37 | JC | hi all. |
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| 05:08.08 | gurugentoo | hi all, is there support for actually making calls when debian or gentoo are installed on the freerunner? |
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| 05:15.48 | rpx__ | God morning, |
| 05:16.13 | rpx__ | I was wondering if the WSOD is hardware or software? |
| 05:17.45 | xiangfu__ | what is WSOD? |
| 05:18.31 | rpx__ | Sorry, it is the white screen of death, happens on my phone after resume, described in 1841 |
| 05:18.54 | rpx__ | After reading the bugreport I can't really tell |
| 05:19.29 | xiangfu__ | i think it's software problem |
| 05:19.54 | rpx__ | I really hope so, since my phone is less than 1 week old :( |
| 05:19.56 | mwester | It's in that wonderful boundary area where you can't tell which it is. |
| 05:20.13 | mwester | Clearly the hardware and software don't get along. |
| 05:20.13 | rpx__ | But is it common? |
| 05:20.16 | mwester | Yes. |
| 05:20.44 | rpx__ | But is there any kernel version that "fixes" the problems |
| 05:20.51 | rpx__ | or hides it |
| 05:21.04 | mwester | There doesn't seem to be. |
| 05:21.15 | gurugentoo | is there a home page for zhone? what exactly is it? |
| 05:21.21 | mattl | rpx__: which distro/kernel? |
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| 05:21.36 | mattl | gurugentoo: zhone is the dialer for debian/fso iirc |
| 05:21.39 | rpx__ | I am using the kernel that is in the 2008.9 |
| 05:22.08 | gurugentoo | mattl: ahh |
| 05:22.44 | rpx__ | mattl: I was trying to checkout and build the latest kernel from andy but I didn't get it to work |
| 05:22.54 | rpx__ | mattl: the build that is |
| 05:23.12 | mattl | i've not seen a WSOD yet, over 10 phones. |
| 05:23.36 | rpx__ | mattl: so I guess I am one of the unlucky once |
| 05:23.49 | mattl | i'd hope it is software. |
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| 05:24.42 | rpx__ | I actually saw something strange behavior in the pre-installed software. When the phone was in stand-by it sort of rebooted . . . |
| 05:25.31 | rpx__ | not a full reboot but it flashed and I think I saw the boot-up text rolling for 2 secs or so |
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| 05:26.12 | rpx__ | Maybe the is something wrong with my "glamo" |
| 05:29.43 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r364bb033682f 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ogsmd: validate parameters for org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call.Initiate |
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| 05:31.36 | rpx__ | mattl: Is there anything special one have to do to compile the kernal from git (ex origin/stable) |
| 05:32.12 | rpx__ | mattl: I copy the defconf-gta02 to .config |
| 05:32.44 | rpx__ | mattl: but I still get a lot of questions about modules and stuff, and when I build it doesn't compile |
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| 05:34.58 | wildnux | hi i am lost here |
| 05:36.13 | wildnux | i just got my openmoko today and am trying to update my moko and learn stuffs ( i am novice) i am able to ssh to my device but cannot connect to internet thro my laptop running opensuse11 |
| 05:36.42 | wildnux | i could not enable ip forwarding in opensuse11 as it is greyed out |
| 05:36.49 | wildnux | can anyone help me plz |
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| 05:38.37 | zash | wildnux: greyed out? |
| 05:38.55 | wildnux | yes it seems to be disabled. I could not check it |
| 05:39.20 | zash | firestarter? |
| 05:39.25 | zash | or some other gui |
| 05:39.33 | xiangfu_ | sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 05:40.09 | zash | echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 05:40.43 | zash | sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o interface -j MASQUERADE |
| 05:42.12 | wildnux | even after i do that , when i run opkg update in ssh, it says failed to download |
| 05:42.23 | wildnux | error 0 |
| 05:42.28 | zash | wildnux: can you ping stuff? |
| 05:42.45 | gurugentoo | is there any documentation for getting the FSO apps running on gentoo (on a freerunner)? |
| 05:42.47 | wildnux | i can ping to my laptop from my moko |
| 05:43.07 | zash | wildnux: but, can you ping like www.google.com or 64.233.187.99 |
| 05:43.47 | zash | wildnux: copy your /etc/resolv.conf to the neo also |
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| 05:44.29 | zash | and, setup the neo to use your ws as gateway |
| 05:44.31 | xiangfu_ | wildnux: may be you should modify /etc/resolv.conf |
| 05:45.05 | zash | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 05:45.54 | rpx__ | Anyone that can help me compile the kernel check out from git? |
| 05:46.11 | wildnux | zash: i just pinged 74.125.19.147 from the device and it seems ok |
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| 05:46.50 | zash | wildnux: then i guess routing works |
| 05:46.59 | wildnux | zash: how do i copy the /etc/resolv.conf into my neo? |
| 05:47.36 | zash | wildnux: scp /etc/resolv.conf root@neo:/etc/ |
| 05:47.43 | zash | wildnux: or, copy and paste |
| 05:47.57 | wildnux | let me try the first one |
| 05:48.15 | zash | wildnux: or, butterflies! ;) |
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| 05:49.43 | wildnux | zash: it gave me some warnings "warning: ignoring unknown argument 'x' " and some some and |
| 05:49.44 | wildnux | /usr/bin/dbclient: exited: Error resolving: Temporary failure in name resolution |
| 05:49.44 | wildnux | lost connection |
| 05:50.49 | zash | wildnux: what |
| 05:51.26 | zash | wildnux: you@yourworkstation:~$ scp /etc/resolv.conf root@192.168.0.202:/etc/ |
| 05:51.33 | wildnux | zash: while copying |
| 05:51.41 | zash | okay? |
| 05:51.43 | zash | weird |
| 05:52.18 | wildnux | zash: while i ping it never stops it goes on without any summary of packets sent and received. but it shows the time. is that okay |
| 05:52.35 | zash | wildnux: Ctrl + C to stop ping |
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| 05:53.00 | wildnux | zash: ok |
| 05:53.16 | zash | wildnux: the default is to ping some unlimited times, unlike the windows ping |
| 05:53.29 | wildnux | zash: the copying problem was due to my typo error. sorry about that |
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| 05:54.09 | wildnux | zash: so now how do i do opkg update. it says dowloading foo and signature failed |
| 05:54.34 | zash | wildnux: check the wiki |
| 05:55.09 | zash | my generic linux knowledge doesn't cover opkg |
| 05:55.25 | wildnux | zash: i am lost in wiki..... :P i got my moko today and am surfing around the wiki all the day i am completely lost |
| 05:56.02 | wildnux | zash: i have nothing in my moko only "contacts, message , terminal, screencapture, and dialer" |
| 05:56.22 | wildnux | zash: are those only things we get in neo? |
| 05:56.54 | zash | wildnux: i guess you have the old 2007.something? |
| 05:57.47 | wildnux | zash: may be yes |
| 05:57.57 | wildnux | zash: i want to use the om08 |
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| 05:58.43 | zash | wildnux: then you need to flash it |
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| 05:59.05 | wildnux | zash: but first i wanted to backup everything, but it asks to install some files (the neotool asks for some packages) thats why i am trying to update |
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| 06:02.22 | wildnux | zash: i found something i can ping the ip address but not the address by itself i cannot ping "www.google.com |
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| 06:03.03 | zash | wildnux: i dont have any first hand experience with om exept poking with the emulator, so i cant help you with that :( |
| 06:03.22 | zash | wildnux: resolv.conf |
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| 06:04.40 | zash | wildnux: try "host www.something.com" or "dig www.blauu" |
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| 06:08.02 | zash | wildnux: and check that there is a "nameserver <ipaddr>" in /etc/resolv.conf, and that you can ping that |
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| 06:22.59 | wildnux | zash: it was the resolv.conf |
| 06:23.03 | wildnux | i fixed it now |
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| 06:24.39 | wildnux | zash: i found out the problem of the signature error, but i am not sure about solving it. The error is because they moved the repository to a new location and the .conf file in the device have the old address |
| 06:24.53 | wildnux | i dont know if i can solve it or not. i will try though |
| 06:25.08 | zash | wildnux: the signature error might be that they dont generate signature files |
| 06:26.28 | wildnux | zash: i found that there is no signature files in repo |
| 06:26.52 | zash | precisly |
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| 06:28.16 | wildnux | zash: how do i find out what version of openmoko i am using |
| 06:28.26 | zash | wildnux: i have no idea |
| 06:28.52 | zash | wildnux: does it look like this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Openmoko2007.2_home_screen.png |
| 06:30.09 | gurugentoo | so...how does one unlock the screen in 2008.8? |
| 06:30.28 | gurugentoo | I hit the AUX button...what's the secret? |
| 06:32.43 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * r382317ae43f2 10/framework/subsystems/oeventsd/fso_actions.py: oeventsd: fix super() call in SetAudioScenarioAction. Should fix FSO #174 |
| 06:34.59 | wildnux | zash: i got it i figured it out |
| 06:35.11 | zash | :D |
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| 06:36.17 | wildnux | zash: i edited 3 .conf files and it updated some packages but some of the repo is still pointing to the old repo. i have no idea where they have those .conf file |
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| 06:39.16 | wildnux | zash: its backing up kernels and filesystem |
| 06:39.25 | wildnux | i will flash my moko now... :P |
| 06:41.37 | wildnux | Any body know how long will it take to back up openmoko using the neotool? |
| 06:42.42 | zash | guess: size / speed of usb |
| 06:44.32 | ColdFyre | odd, the contacts only shows about half of the contents of my sim |
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| 06:52.29 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.dev * rd30824c2cbff 10/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb: [task-openmoko-feed] Add gpe-scap into openmoko feed. |
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| 06:55.53 | wildnux | zash: man i have done the backinup thingy and now flashing my moko. |
| 06:56.05 | wildnux | zash: thanks for your support man |
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| 06:56.57 | zash | :D |
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| 07:18.33 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey 07framework * ra1326490dc4d 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: move ListObjectsByInterface from org.freesmartphone.Objects to org.freesmartphone.Framework |
| 07:19.23 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: Warning: API Change, please adjust. |
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| 09:29.01 | CM_work | Ghiottone: :) |
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| 09:41.27 | Ghiottone | CM_work, hey CM! |
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| 09:50.20 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03tick 07org.openmoko.dev * rd3ec92ab12a1 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [assassin] Bump up the version of Assassin to 265. |
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| 10:32.41 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03laforge * r4706 10/trunk/src/target/debug/input/input-stat.c: add input event rate statistics program |
| 10:34.55 | khorben | beginning of documentation for the webcam: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam |
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| 10:41.17 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03zecke * r4707 10/trunk/src/host/devirginator/config.gta02v5: |
| 10:41.17 | CIA-22 | openmoko: [devirginator] Fix the config.gta02v5 |
| 10:41.17 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - Get the bootloader and low level foo from the daily build |
| 10:41.17 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - Kernel and rootfs from the release |
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| 11:01.42 | CIA-22 | openmoko: [devirginator] Upgrade config.gta01bv4 |
| 11:01.42 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - u-boot and lowlevel are the proper versions |
| 11:01.42 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - kernel and rootfs are unlikely to work... this is an ongoing challenge |
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| 11:52.25 | deever | mwester_: you said that i needed some modules...where can i get them and how can i mount the rootfs for adding? |
| 11:53.11 | gromez | deever: you can get it on mwester's website |
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| 11:54.05 | gromez | deever: http://moko.mwester.net/download/modules-all-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.tgz |
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| 12:10.03 | deever | gromez: oh thank you! didn't know that they're so "official" that already a qtopia 4.4.x release exists from them... |
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| 12:25.11 | Dave | qtx |
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| 12:53.28 | deever | there is no /lib/modules/2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 on the qtextended-4.4.1 rootfs...does it suffice unpacking http://moko.mwester.net/download/modules-min-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.tgz to it? |
| 12:54.01 | Dave | I think you just have to unpack the modules tarball to / |
| 12:54.11 | deever | ok |
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| 12:55.06 | deever | and is there a simple way to modify the rootfs image so i don't need to do the unpacking after each reflashing? |
| 12:56.31 | Dave | yes |
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| 12:59.46 | deever | Dave: and...? 'mount -oloop -tjffs2 rootfs.jffs2 /mnt/rootfs' only prints the usual mount error message "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0" |
| 13:00.17 | Dave | heh |
| 13:00.27 | Dave | are you tring to mount it on pc in order to modify it? |
| 13:00.39 | deever | yes |
| 13:03.11 | Dave | uhh |
| 13:03.18 | Dave | can't you just uncompress it? |
| 13:03.54 | deever | and how? |
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| 13:05.11 | Wonka | deever: normal. jffs2 can only be mounted from MTDs. you need to use mtdblock or something. |
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| 13:06.13 | deever | the file command prints "Linux jffs2 filesystem data little endian", so thought it was a plain image... |
| 13:06.26 | Dave | ~_~ |
| 13:06.26 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 13:06.39 | deever | apt? |
| 13:06.43 | Dave | It's a trap! |
| 13:07.14 | deever | Dave: ? |
| 13:07.27 | Wonka | deever: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Userspace_root_image |
| 13:07.50 | Wonka | deever: don't care about apt and Dave, they're just fooling around |
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| 13:08.15 | FilipLinux4 | deever: about the modules: those are related to the kernel version, not the rootfs version. (kernel & modules need to match), that's why they are no in rootfs |
| 13:08.40 | FilipLinux4 | whenever you install a new kernel, you need to grab the corresponding modules as well |
| 13:09.46 | deever | FilipLinux4: i know this, but mwesters kernel is provided on the qtopia/qtextended site, so i thought the modules being included in the rootfs too...;) |
| 13:10.30 | BDo | The thing to know behind : jffs2 is indeed a mtd-based file system, where as ext2, ext3 and al. are block device based |
| 13:10.49 | sicu | ~detain Dave |
| 13:10.50 | apt | ACTION forces Dave to repair and maintain the general woe of a 1024 winders b0xen with only an M$DOS boot floppy |
| 13:11.19 | sicu | oooooh .... the pain! |
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| 13:18.13 | deever | BDo: ok, thanks for this info! :) |
| 13:18.40 | deever | but i can mount this rw? |
| 13:18.53 | deever | because i want to add the modules... |
| 13:19.14 | BDo | You need to flash it, or to put it on a Flash simulator. |
| 13:19.29 | BDo | Well... emulator. |
| 13:19.43 | DPThought | has anyone yet found out if and what needs to be changed on fso to make it run the new gllin? |
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| 13:20.31 | deever | BDo: yes, i've mounted it already rw, but does a write actually do some damage? |
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| 13:23.18 | Dave | Gee, thanks, Wonka. |
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| 13:25.30 | BDo | Well, a write *does* some damage, even though I guess through wear levelling the original data is still somewhere. |
| 13:27.00 | Dave | That's not exactly reassuring :\ |
| 13:27.01 | deever | BDo: so how can i add the modules directorie to the image? |
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| 13:30.10 | BDo | deever, I am probably missing a point somewhere... If you're using true Flash then the filesystem gets altered, and getting the image back means you need to get the image from the chip back. |
| 13:30.46 | BDo | However bear in mind there ought to be some buffering. Umount it first. |
| 13:30.52 | BDo | Or remount it ro. |
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| 13:33.05 | Dave | nordmann! |
| 13:36.09 | deever | BDo: but how can i modify a jffs2 without a real flash? |
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| 13:59.13 | Dave | Brian. |
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| 14:07.21 | bricode | Dave-o |
| 14:07.34 | bricode | Don't you ever sleep? Eat? Or otherwise? |
| 14:08.17 | bipak_ | its an intelligent bot |
| 14:09.05 | deever | what a pity! #1841: "white screen of death (WSOD) after resume" still there with the newest mwester kernel...! :( |
| 14:09.24 | bipak_ | hmm |
| 14:09.38 | bipak_ | never had this prob |
| 14:12.46 | Dave | Affirmative |
| 14:13.00 | Dave | deever, awesome! |
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| 14:17.35 | deever | Dave: can you also narrate useful things? |
| 14:17.57 | Dave | Affirmative! |
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| 14:21.57 | Tanuva | slaps Dave around a bit with a huge trout |
| 14:21.59 | finger | Hi all |
| 14:22.05 | Tanuva | hey finger |
| 14:22.50 | Dave | Hey Tanuva :p |
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| 14:22.58 | Dave | Lion King! |
| 14:23.06 | finger | All openmoko users here? Good to see that ;) |
| 14:23.24 | Dave | s/users/abusers/ |
| 14:23.27 | Dave | >:) |
| 14:23.30 | Tanuva | ! |
| 14:23.39 | finger | yeah, well that's what this thing is for right ? ;-) |
| 14:23.44 | Tanuva | btw, where's apt gone? |
| 14:24.00 | LionKMP | :-D |
| 14:24.03 | Tanuva | oh, apt's there |
| 14:24.04 | Tanuva | hm |
| 14:24.40 | LionKMP | apt is not replacing in others comments, only in your own, isn't it? |
| 14:24.46 | Tanuva | finally realizes why dave couldn't s/modify/ finger's text.. |
| 14:24.50 | Tanuva | thats it |
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| 14:25.23 | Dave | :D |
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| 14:25.45 | Dave | Tanuva, because I'm not on their keyboard? |
| 14:26.05 | Tanuva | because you're not THEM! HARRHARRRR |
| 14:26.10 | Tanuva | hides |
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| 14:28.05 | Dave | -_- |
| 14:28.16 | Dave | goes after Tanuva with a musty cod |
| 14:28.53 | Tanuva | :D |
| 14:29.08 | Tanuva | runs away kwickly |
| 14:29.13 | Dave | Damn right! |
| 14:29.16 | Dave | You better! |
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| 14:32.22 | bricode | Dave: With your FR parallel imaging using a massive USB hub, do you notice a slow-down because of shared b/w? |
| 14:32.42 | Dave | Uhh |
| 14:32.51 | Dave | I accept that it's generally slow |
| 14:33.01 | Dave | I also do them ten at a time at most |
| 14:33.04 | Dave | and no I don't |
| 14:33.39 | Tanuva | wants to see a cluster of FR's running some impressive demo xD |
| 14:33.39 | sicu | hummmm, still don't get what you're doing with 10 toasters ... |
| 14:33.53 | Dave | okay |
| 14:33.58 | Dave | I'll try to set that up. |
| 14:34.49 | Tanuva | I really gotta look at zhone to get functional screen lock into it.. |
| 14:35.11 | Dave | :| |
| 14:35.39 | Tanuva | but on the other hand - who needs a good screen lock if its suspended anyway? |
| 14:35.49 | Tanuva | but for the sake of coding... |
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| 14:37.46 | Dave | huhuhu |
| 14:37.49 | Dave | dude |
| 14:37.50 | Dave | I swear |
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| 14:38.05 | Dave | bring back the fucking 1994 HOLD switch! |
| 14:38.11 | Dave | motherfucking design noobs. |
| 14:38.25 | Tanuva | that would be awsom |
| 14:38.33 | lindi- | please don't swear |
| 14:38.45 | Dave | Please don't endorse terrible design ideas. |
| 14:38.54 | Tanuva | *g* |
| 14:39.06 | Tanuva | that's why every touch device needs at least one hardware button |
| 14:39.32 | Tanuva | or you could just draw a circle on it with the display still turned off... |
| 14:39.37 | Tanuva | gestures, to me! |
| 14:40.17 | Tanuva | provided the touchscreen doesn't get turned off together with the display. does it? |
| 14:40.27 | Tanuva | ah no, it cannot |
| 14:43.13 | Dave | yeah |
| 14:43.16 | Dave | but it doesn't even have that |
| 14:43.20 | Dave | uggh |
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| 14:46.23 | Dave | leinir. |
| 14:46.57 | bricode | Dave: So hostile :) |
| 14:48.32 | leinir | curtsies :) |
| 14:48.58 | Dave | Brian - hardly! |
| 14:49.09 | Dave | Look at yourself, sheesh ;p |
| 14:49.13 | Dave | smirks |
| 14:49.16 | Tanuva | Dave: I already had gestures on fsom2 IIRC |
| 14:49.26 | Tanuva | think that would be possible with gestures... |
| 14:49.40 | Tanuva | giggles about his breathtaking idea |
| 14:49.42 | Tanuva | :> |
| 14:49.45 | bricode | gives a double handed gesture. |
| 14:50.58 | Dave | :D |
| 14:51.03 | Dave | haha |
| 14:51.14 | Dave | that's just the kind of thing I use with leinir ;) |
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| 14:55.46 | bricode | Dave: That gesture could have been two thumbs up too... |
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| 14:58.49 | Dave | :) |
| 14:58.59 | Dave | Brian, though I find that highly dubious... coming from you ;) |
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| 15:36.04 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03agreen 07stable * rfe809118262b 10/board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c: |
| 15:36.05 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03andy 07stable * r69f7dbbbf62c 10/board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c: u-boot-clean-batt-charge-patch.patch |
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| 15:37.06 | bricode | goes to check andy's latest u-boot patch. |
| 15:37.18 | Dave | Yes! |
| 15:37.23 | Dave | Brian, I'll race ya ;p |
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| 15:38.26 | sicu | You both lose =D |
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| 15:40.47 | bricode | I suppose I should dedicate some time to the neglected u-boot. |
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| 15:44.05 | Dave | :| |
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| 15:44.50 | bricode | I would really love to see some u-boot charging. |
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| 15:47.40 | bricode | Constants all over the place in that patch. |
| 15:47.46 | bricode | Makes it a little more difficult to read. |
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| 15:57.54 | bipak_ | hmm, what is gllin good for? |
| 15:58.08 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03debian 07stable * rd9daa95bffa9 10/board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c: Fixes for U-Boot charging |
| 15:58.12 | igor321 | i think it's for gta01 gps |
| 15:58.18 | bipak_ | ah ok |
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| 15:58.35 | Blastur | bipak_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gllin |
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| 15:59.20 | bipak_ | yes.. but i asked me why I would need a userspace driver if the kernel driver works fine |
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| 16:02.35 | Dave | bipak, you don't. |
| 16:05.04 | bipak_ | i know ;) |
| 16:07.33 | Dave | :) |
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| 16:09.14 | bipak_ | did anyone of you build zecke's qtopia repo? |
| 16:10.01 | bipak_ | i get a very strange error when trying to crosscompile |
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| 16:37.59 | ieatlint | i pity anyone who uses (or has tried to use) the xmlrpc c library |
| 16:38.16 | ieatlint | it's api is so poorly written and documented that it looks like something i wrote |
| 16:39.46 | TeNoVi | Hi! When I try to start roadmap and test things, I just get an error. "s== roadmap_gps.c, line 919: cannot access GPS source gpsd2://localhost" Anyone familiar with it, or knows how to fix it? Thanks. |
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| 16:46.31 | Dave | lint |
| 16:46.35 | Dave | I've used it before |
| 16:46.41 | ieatlint | hey dave |
| 16:46.56 | Dave | It wasn't very fun. |
| 16:47.01 | Dave | Let's leave it at that. |
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| 16:47.20 | ieatlint | hehe, indeed, i think i finally have it figured out ... well enough to use, at least |
| 16:48.54 | Dave | I sure hope so :| |
| 16:48.57 | Dave | for your sake |
| 16:49.35 | Dave | let alone whatever new and exciting craptacular software you may be writing :) |
| 16:49.39 | Dave | or concocting |
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| 16:51.31 | ieatlint | hah, thanks |
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| 16:52.19 | ieatlint | but yeah, some of their api docs just give you function names and 5 words, often explanations like "yeah, this works similar to ____ function" -- not even a fucking prototype, i'm here going through header files so i know what to pass to it and get back |
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| 16:52.57 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03seeseekey * r303 10/trunk/umaf concepts/: umaf concepts |
| 16:57.54 | Dave | Lint, yeah, it's worse than doxygen jargon |
| 16:58.05 | Dave | sounds like some of my earlier code :D |
| 16:58.26 | Dave | like, "oh yeah, this does this" "same as <blah>" no need to comment ;D |
| 16:58.37 | Dave | no one will ever bother reading my code anyway... :P |
| 16:58.41 | Dave | that mantra |
| 16:59.39 | ieatlint | yeah... c just isn't good for this |
| 16:59.49 | Dave | ;) |
| 16:59.51 | Dave | no kidding |
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| 17:00.02 | Dave | well, it's certainly not as easy... or fun! |
| 17:00.19 | yabo | qtopia doesnt come with gcc? |
| 17:01.46 | ieatlint | yeah, i'm going to do this in c, but i will actively avoid xmlrpc and c hereon |
| 17:02.01 | Dave | Good man. |
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| 17:06.00 | Tanuva | is there some repository known compatible with fsom3? or should they all work one way or another? |
| 17:11.12 | yabo | does qtopia 4.4.1 have gcc? |
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| 17:11.34 | deever | BDo: how can i modify a jffs2 without a real flash? |
| 17:12.16 | mjr | the wiki has instructions on mapping it into a virtual mmd device |
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| 17:17.59 | zogg_ | evening |
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| 17:18.08 | deever | mjr: but is the fs writable with this? |
| 17:18.47 | mjr | afaik |
| 17:19.06 | mjr | but anyway you can read it out and re-mkjffs2 |
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| 17:19.16 | mjr | which is probably what you want to do anyway |
| 17:20.34 | Dave | man |
| 17:20.40 | Dave | I should maintain a public 2007 repo |
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| 17:23.50 | yabo | the wiki has changed |
| 17:23.50 | yabo | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 17:23.50 | yabo | why |
| 17:23.50 | yabo | ip addr add 192.168.0.200/24 dev usb0 |
| 17:23.50 | yabo | instead of |
| 17:23.50 | yabo | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 |
| 17:23.50 | yabo | ? |
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| 17:26.22 | yabo | oh nv |
| 17:26.23 | yabo | m |
| 17:26.24 | yabo | anyway |
| 17:26.34 | Tanuva | yabo: its a smaller ip range, don't know exactly :) |
| 17:26.40 | yabo | How can i get gcc on my freerunner with qtopia 4.4.1? |
| 17:26.44 | yabo | seems like more work to me |
| 17:26.56 | yabo | and after that you have to ifconfig usb0 up |
| 17:27.04 | yabo | anyway |
| 17:27.07 | yabo | gcc on qtopia anyone? |
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| 17:27.12 | Tanuva | rather ifup usb0 |
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| 17:32.23 | yabo | Tanuva, thats not what the wiki says |
| 17:33.44 | deever | mjr: no, actually the only thing i'd like to do is unpacking the mwester modules to a qtextended roofs image... |
| 17:33.51 | Tanuva | yabo: which page? |
| 17:33.57 | yabo | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 17:34.19 | mwester | deever: why do that the rootfs image, why not just scp the tar file to the freerunner and extract it there? |
| 17:34.47 | deever | mjr: but if remkjffs2ing is the simplest (or only) way to do it... |
| 17:35.16 | deever | mwester: because i have to do this after each reflashing... |
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| 17:37.12 | Tanuva | yabo: yes, thats ment without further setup in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:37.26 | Tanuva | yabo: if you have configured the interfaces in that file you need to use ifup afaik |
| 17:37.34 | Tanuva | (to have that settings be applied) |
| 17:37.52 | Tanuva | s/that/the/ |
| 17:38.11 | Tanuva | (although that sentence may be still grammatically incorrect...) |
| 17:38.32 | mwester | deever: to copy and extract the modules from a running freerunner is a one-line shell script. |
| 17:38.50 | mwester | seems easier to me, than to figure out how to extract and repackage the jffs2 image. |
| 17:39.19 | yabo | mwester |
| 17:39.24 | yabo | how can i get gcc on qtopia 4.4.1? :-S |
| 17:39.34 | mwester | install the ipkgs, of course. |
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| 17:39.43 | SamuraiDio | hi all |
| 17:39.51 | mwester | But where to get those, and which exactly those are, I cannot say. |
| 17:39.58 | SamuraiDio | is there brazilians comming by? |
| 17:40.07 | yabo | oh.. |
| 17:40.29 | Tanuva | yabo: you most likely want "gcc-symlinks" |
| 17:40.39 | Tanuva | (which pulls gcc as a dependency) |
| 17:40.55 | yabo | do i get that from rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk or? |
| 17:41.06 | Tanuva | if its there |
| 17:41.24 | Tanuva | is really confused of the masses of repositories atm |
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| 17:41.46 | yabo | me too |
| 17:41.47 | yabo | by the way |
| 17:41.49 | mwester | me too |
| 17:41.51 | yabo | in qtopia |
| 17:42.03 | yabo | settings - software packages |
| 17:42.30 | yabo | i cant connect to neither the standard qtextended-server there. nor rabenfrost |
| 17:43.00 | Tanuva | is internet working at all? |
| 17:43.07 | deever | mwester: the idea behind it is that i only want to do it _once_ and not after each reflash! ;) |
| 17:43.08 | yabo | yeah i can ping openmoko.org just fine |
| 17:44.05 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03seeseekey * r304 10/trunk/ (umaf concepts/ umaf-concepts/): |
| 17:44.27 | gurugentoo | what does a constant red led mean on the freerunner? |
| 17:44.35 | Tanuva | gurugentoo: distro? |
| 17:44.38 | yabo | anyway, Tanuva |
| 17:44.50 | mwester | deever: I understand that. So... asume a day - 8 hours - to do the jffs2 patchup. Assume 30 seconds to do the copy and untar solution. That would mean that the jffs2 patchup solution would only be a time-saver if you reflash the same rootfs 960 times. |
| 17:44.53 | yabo | there are 4 gcc-symlinkpackages |
| 17:44.56 | yabo | which do i want? |
| 17:44.56 | Tanuva | gurugentoo: on qtopia its "charging" |
| 17:45.01 | mwester | That's a lot of reflashing, deever |
| 17:45.04 | gurugentoo | Tanuva: 2008.9 (FDOM) |
| 17:45.04 | Tanuva | yabo: depends on what they contain |
| 17:45.13 | yabo | gcc-symlink_4.1.2-r11_armv4t.ipk |
| 17:45.15 | yabo | gcc-symlink_4.1.2-r12_armv4t.ipk |
| 17:45.23 | yabo | + 13 and 14 |
| 17:45.25 | Tanuva | gurugentoo: that contains the qtopia base afaik, so it should mean "charging" |
| 17:45.37 | Tanuva | gurugentoo: try pulling the plug and see if it gets turned off |
| 17:45.45 | gurugentoo | Tanuva: ah! that would make sense |
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| 17:45.49 | Tanuva | yabo: the most recent one I'd guess |
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| 17:46.02 | yabo | r14 means release 14 or something? |
| 17:46.07 | Tanuva | yabo: yep |
| 17:46.11 | gurugentoo | Tanuva: yes you are correct, I hadn't tried that |
| 17:46.12 | yabo | okay thank you very much |
| 17:47.12 | yabo | * ERROR * cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gcc-symlinks: |
| 17:47.16 | yabo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.17 | Dave | Hi Mwester :) |
| 17:47.41 | yabo | what is symlinks anyway? |
| 17:47.47 | Dave | flash it like it's hot |
| 17:48.51 | deever | mwester: why one day 8 hours for the jffs2? |
| 17:49.17 | mwester | You're right -- it could be several days. |
| 17:49.35 | mwester | perhaps even 4 hours |
| 17:49.46 | deever | and why? |
| 17:50.46 | mwester | I'm assuming from your questions that you don't have the tools installed to do this, and that you've not previously done work with jffs2 loopbacks and such. |
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| 17:51.24 | mwester | It is a fairly complicated process to set this up, as a jffs2 filesystem is not a proper block device. |
| 17:51.58 | mwester | er, the mtd driver does not present the flash as a proper block device, is a better way to say it. |
| 17:52.33 | mwester | But in any case, you need to google jffs2 loopbacks to find the right tools to do the job, install same, do your fixup to the image, repackage the image, and test. |
| 17:53.02 | mwester | I suspect 4 hours is a minimum amount of time, and more if you have to go back and fix anything. |
| 17:53.45 | deever | ah, ok! if i count the time for getting familiar with this to the time of rebuilding the actual rootfs, it's not worth the effort, yes... |
| 17:54.54 | deever | ...but it seems useful to me if i learn these jffs2 tools for general...;) |
| 17:55.16 | deever | what do you mean with testing? |
| 17:55.31 | Dave | Deever, are you going to be selling homemade images to kids on the street? |
| 17:55.37 | deever | after repackaging, i mean |
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| 17:57.54 | mwester | deever: you need to reflash the jffs2 image you modified, and make sure that it can be used, i.e. the kernel doesn't puke because of broken checksums or wrong size... also that pehaps the modules ended up in the wrong place, or the permissions got messed up in the translation process, etc. |
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| 17:58.55 | mwester | It's like taking the boot disk from a system, mounting on another, messing with it as an ordinary user, then putting it back -- there's a certain amount of "hope" that goes into assuming it will boot correctly! :D |
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| 18:02.50 | gurugentoo | has anyone had trouble with the microSD card that came with the freerunner? mine appears to be unreadable |
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| 18:07.34 | Dave | Joerg, are you around? |
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| 18:12.25 | Don | hi of all |
| 18:12.25 | Don | have someone motorola z6?? |
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| 18:30.47 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03daniel 07framework * r84889521c375 10/ChangeLog: |
| 18:30.47 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: Update ChangeLog |
| 18:30.47 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: * Mention gllin support for GTA01 and SBAS for GTA02 |
| 18:31.49 | yabo | on rabenfrost |
| 18:31.53 | yabo | in the repository |
| 18:32.02 | yabo | what does ml10 mean? |
| 18:32.04 | yabo | ml1, ml2 |
| 18:32.04 | yabo | etc |
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| 18:34.20 | yabo | specifically the libpython-packages, libpython2.5.2-1.0_2.5.2-ml4_armv4t.ipk |
| 18:34.26 | yabo | which one do i want? |
| 18:38.10 | yabo | nvm |
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| 18:48.50 | Tanuva | oO... was upgrading fsom3 from the celtune repository a bad idea? I got the impression its upgrading the whole system *g* |
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| 18:59.05 | Guilt | i discovered that qtopia's busybox is missing splash-write |
| 18:59.09 | Guilt | any fixes for that? |
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| 19:03.42 | GNUtoo | hello, I use FSO testing with the git of zhone and frameworkd...but there is no ringtone...how do I add it(i've also others issues but i'll see that after the ring) |
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| 19:05.14 | yabo | Is java an assembly-generator? |
| 19:05.26 | yabo | like c? |
| 19:05.33 | Hire | GNUtoo http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_ringtones |
| 19:05.42 | yabo | Java -> assembly -> Machine-code? |
| 19:05.42 | Tanuva | no, javac generates bytecode which is interpreted by the java vm |
| 19:05.43 | GNUtoo | Hire, thanks |
| 19:06.02 | Tanuva | and if nessecary compiled to machine code by the vm |
| 19:06.05 | yabo | so when one compiles java |
| 19:06.09 | yabo | it goes |
| 19:06.15 | yabo | java -> ? -> ? |
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| 19:06.46 | Tanuva | java --javac-> bytecode --java-vm-> execution, sometimes machine code |
| 19:07.06 | Tanuva | I don't know exactly when code gets compiled natively |
| 19:07.16 | Tanuva | maybe java6 does this permanently to be faster |
| 19:08.11 | yabo | oh |
| 19:09.31 | yabo | javac is compiled java? like pyc? |
| 19:11.38 | Tanuva | uh? I don't know which language javac is written in - "javac" is just the name of the java compiler |
| 19:12.10 | Tanuva | "compiled java" like pyc is the .class file you get from javac |
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| 19:15.12 | xt | and .pyc isnt compiled, it's just less size |
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| 19:16.26 | GNUtoo | Hire, mmm...i have the 2 ringtones... |
| 19:16.42 | Hire | mm |
| 19:16.50 | Hire | and? :asd: |
| 19:18.30 | GNUtoo | Hire, and it doesn't play...mabe i'm missing a dep...i don't understand how zhone works...for what keyword should i look in the code in order to find how it plays ringtones? |
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| 19:18.41 | GNUtoo | s/look/look for/ |
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| 19:19.08 | gurugentoo | has anyone gotten 'mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card' in your dmesg ? |
| 19:19.12 | Hire | well well |
| 19:20.10 | Hire | you can replace Arkanoid_PSID.sid with your ringstone |
| 19:20.21 | Hire | and try this way |
| 19:20.33 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 19:21.10 | Hire | or edit /etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/phone/default.yaml |
| 19:21.23 | Hire | and put the name of the ringstone into this file |
| 19:21.34 | Hire | next |
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| 19:21.47 | Hire | you copy your ringstone into /usr/share/sounds/ |
| 19:21.58 | Dave | o_o |
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| 19:22.17 | Hire | however... zhone is a test program :) |
| 19:22.42 | Hire | very very very soon we get an full basic phone image of SHR |
| 19:23.46 | GNUtoo | Hire, i'll look if gst-plugin-sid is installed... |
| 19:24.13 | Hire | what image do you using now? |
| 19:24.18 | GNUtoo | mmm.Status: install user installed |
| 19:24.23 | GNUtoo | testing FSO |
| 19:24.23 | Hire | testing? fso3? |
| 19:24.28 | Hire | ahm eh... |
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| 19:25.05 | Hire | i know that images has problem with incoming calls ( no ring no vibrate ) |
| 19:25.16 | Hire | you need to get a less recent testing image |
| 19:25.20 | Hire | as 6 october |
| 19:25.37 | yabo | crap |
| 19:25.41 | yabo | i just lost the game |
| 19:25.53 | gurugentoo | bah! |
| 19:26.10 | yabo | worth it though |
| 19:26.10 | yabo | http://qdb.us/239100 |
| 19:26.13 | yabo | check that out haha |
| 19:26.15 | Hire | http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ |
| 19:26.18 | Hire | very well |
| 19:26.23 | Hire | new image from SHR |
| 19:26.33 | GNUtoo | Hire, ok...but i wanted to test the differents phonebooks like "missed" |
| 19:26.57 | GNUtoo | Hire, i think i uderstood the problem...i'll try something |
| 19:27.17 | Hire | you can talk about it with quickdev and Ainulindale :D |
| 19:27.28 | Hire | i don't have tested so much FSO |
| 19:27.35 | Tanuva | can SHR be called "S" yet? |
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| 19:28.57 | GNUtoo | Hire, mabe the issue is that it doesn't switch alsa profile on call or ring... |
| 19:29.29 | j4p13j0 | Just got my FR today, and want to reflash. Trying to make a backup image of my jffs2 rootfs, it ended with an error -84. And the FR rebooted so I did not see any errors in uboot. Resulting file is 258076672 bytes. Is this OK ? |
| 19:29.37 | Hire | I know is a bug into the framework |
| 19:29.54 | Hire | I don't know if michey has fixed it .. |
| 19:30.05 | GNUtoo | ah ok... |
| 19:30.10 | Hire | j4p13j0: yes :D |
| 19:30.19 | GNUtoo | Hire, thanks a lot |
| 19:30.45 | Ainulindale | Don't install the SHR image |
| 19:30.48 | Ainulindale | It probably won't work |
| 19:30.51 | Ainulindale | It hasn't been tested at all |
| 19:30.57 | Ainulindale | And I purposely didn't talk about that here |
| 19:30.59 | Tanuva | ah |
| 19:30.59 | Dave | Ainu! |
| 19:31.05 | j4p13j0 | Hire: Thx.. no need to spend another 30 min to retry then ;-) |
| 19:31.11 | Ainulindale | We're in the process of finalizing the first dialer and the image |
| 19:31.26 | Ainulindale | We will test that first, if you want to try bleeding edge, I'm not responsible for any hair loss |
| 19:31.54 | Ainulindale | And latest fso images don't have problem with incoming calls |
| 19:31.59 | Ainulindale | It hasn't been corrected by mickey|tw|zzZZzz |
| 19:32.03 | Ainulindale | s/hasn't/has/ |
| 19:32.20 | Hire | mmm |
| 19:32.27 | Ainulindale | Regarding SHR as a stable distribution |
| 19:32.35 | Ainulindale | There will be an announcement when we think it is so |
| 19:33.05 | baze | what ui does shr use? |
| 19:33.18 | Ainulindale | Hire: Don't be over-extactic regarding this image, I think it may lead you only to disappointment |
| 19:33.23 | Ainulindale | baze: illume |
| 19:33.31 | Gromgull | So - say I have a super simple qt4 program... and i have the openmoko makefile thingy setup ... what would I do to compile my own prog for the FR? |
| 19:33.33 | baze | ncie |
| 19:33.35 | Hire | don't worry Ainulindale :D |
| 19:33.37 | baze | nice |
| 19:33.37 | Ainulindale | And for dialer a custom dialer based on libframeworkd-glib developed by quickdev |
| 19:33.41 | Hire | i will test it for fun |
| 19:33.47 | Ainulindale | And some people are porting the gtk one |
| 19:33.56 | Ainulindale | (for ages now :-p) |
| 19:34.34 | Dave | :D |
| 19:34.34 | baze | hm, i'm still not sure if i'm going to buy a freerunner or wait for the gta03 |
| 19:34.35 | Dave | yes |
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| 19:35.01 | Tanuva | baze: if you wait for 03 you could also say you first wait for 04 then |
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| 19:35.15 | baze | yep |
| 19:35.29 | baze | sa 04 will be the first with nice hardware inside ;) |
| 19:35.30 | Tanuva | if you WANT the fr, buy it. :) |
| 19:35.47 | baze | hehe, it's just i'm a bit short of money atm ;) |
| 19:36.04 | Ainulindale | baze: well |
| 19:36.06 | Tanuva | provided the right moment is the only thing to worry about :D |
| 19:36.10 | Ainulindale | If you want to be able to be really free |
| 19:36.14 | Ainulindale | At the cost of some integration |
| 19:36.20 | Ainulindale | Buy it |
| 19:36.24 | Ainulindale | If you want a finalized product |
| 19:36.31 | Ainulindale | Go hide in some cavern |
| 19:36.35 | baze | :) |
| 19:36.36 | Ainulindale | Because this kind of device doesn't exist |
| 19:36.49 | Tanuva | I mean - I cannot use the fr as my daily phone, its simply unreliable. but its such a nice toy :) |
| 19:36.54 | baze | no, i need some new toy to play with and break it |
| 19:37.01 | baze | so the fr would be good ;) |
| 19:37.03 | Ainulindale | Tanuva: I had no problem using it as a daily phone with ASU |
| 19:37.12 | Ainulindale | And an old version of FSO |
| 19:37.27 | Ainulindale | And I'll use it as a daily phone with SHR |
| 19:37.34 | baze | i think sometime in the next 2 months or so i might get one |
| 19:37.38 | baze | maybe earlier |
| 19:37.39 | Ainulindale | Because there's no point developing software without actually using it ... |
| 19:37.40 | Tanuva | Ainulindale: I'm still not convinced that calls are reliable in combination with suspend, but I'll see |
| 19:37.50 | Ainulindale | Tanuva: on AU ? |
| 19:37.51 | Ainulindale | +S |
| 19:38.24 | Gromgull | ok, screw the qt part - how can I compile helloworld.c for the moko? |
| 19:38.25 | Tanuva | Ainulindale: and fso, yes... zhone is a bit mean sometimes, and I havent fiddled with asu so much yet |
| 19:38.37 | Ainulindale | Tanuva: FSO isn't supposed to be fully usable |
| 19:38.43 | Tanuva | sure it is not |
| 19:38.45 | Ainulindale | When you want basic telephony (this is my case), it's great |
| 19:38.55 | Ainulindale | I had problems, this is true |
| 19:39.13 | Ainulindale | But no problem is truly keeping me away from using it as a phone |
| 19:39.41 | GNUtoo | baze, I tried to use the Freerunner as a phone too...but or Zhone doesn't have vibration+missed calls or ASU doesn't work well....but what bother me the most is the battery life... |
| 19:39.45 | Ainulindale | Gromgull: either you use bitbake, or mokomakefile, or a toolchain |
| 19:39.55 | Ainulindale | GNUtoo: zhone has vibration |
| 19:39.58 | Gromgull | i already have mokomakefile |
| 19:40.02 | GNUtoo | Ainulindale, wow...where? |
| 19:40.04 | sicu | and the phone is truly not keeping me away from problems =] |
| 19:40.05 | Ainulindale | And in fact it isn't zhone which has vibration |
| 19:40.06 | Ainulindale | but frameworkd |
| 19:40.07 | toggles_w | GNUtoo: not a problem for me, i don't like the people that call me |
| 19:40.10 | Ainulindale | there is rules |
| 19:40.14 | Ainulindale | s/is/are/ |
| 19:40.18 | Dave | Hey Toggles :) |
| 19:40.19 | GNUtoo | toggles_w, lol |
| 19:40.20 | Ainulindale | Under hmmm |
| 19:40.24 | toggles_w | it vibrates on ring and messages for me |
| 19:40.25 | Ainulindale | Something like /etc/frameworkd/oeventsd |
| 19:40.27 | toggles_w | i love my zhone |
| 19:40.42 | Dave | :p |
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| 19:40.47 | Dave | sounds kinky |
| 19:40.48 | Gromgull | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomakefile#Developing_with_MokoMakefile will tell me how to change an existing package |
| 19:41.02 | DocScrutinizer | Dave: what's up? |
| 19:41.11 | Gromgull | oh hang on |
| 19:41.14 | Gromgull | reading further down :) |
| 19:41.19 | toggles_w | i would make love to fso-testing images if i was tron |
| 19:41.35 | Ainulindale | toggles_w: latest images where a bit buggy though :-) |
| 19:41.40 | Ainulindale | Charlie broke oeventsd |
| 19:41.43 | Ainulindale | so no sound here whatsoever |
| 19:41.56 | Dave | Hey Joerg :) |
| 19:42.01 | Ainulindale | But mickey|tw|zzZZzz came on his black stallion and killed the bastard bug |
| 19:42.05 | toggles_w | Ainulindale: did you try milesotne 3? |
| 19:42.15 | Ainulindale | toggles_w: I'm using bleeding edge |
| 19:42.41 | toggles_w | Ainulindale: milestone 3 has ring and vibrate, i've been using it for weeks as my sole image |
| 19:42.47 | Ainulindale | I know |
| 19:42.48 | GNUtoo | Ainulindale, i saw only silent and default... |
| 19:42.55 | Ainulindale | But MS3 does not handle GSMALPHABET properly |
| 19:42.56 | toggles_w | i just installed testing, having a few issued |
| 19:43.05 | Ainulindale | So I had to use an ulterior version |
| 19:43.11 | Ainulindale | And kept doing it that way |
| 19:43.16 | Ainulindale | GNUtoo: that's the profiles |
| 19:43.20 | Ainulindale | there are two things |
| 19:43.25 | Ainulindale | profiles (which AFAIK don't work) |
| 19:43.27 | Ainulindale | and events |
| 19:43.29 | Ainulindale | which work |
| 19:43.42 | Ainulindale | As soon as my rootfs is flashed I'll tell you where they are |
| 19:44.01 | Ainulindale | GNUtoo: but there's no interface for that |
| 19:44.06 | Ainulindale | it's pretty simple though |
| 19:44.15 | GNUtoo | Ainulindale, ah ok...so i use cli-framework? |
| 19:44.23 | Ainulindale | cli-framework ? |
| 19:44.25 | Ainulindale | What is that ? |
| 19:44.46 | GNUtoo | Ainulindale, it's a special terminal for accessing the famework from dbus... |
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| 19:44.48 | Ainulindale | If it's some graphical tool, I don't know it and I feel better just not knowing it :-p |
| 19:45.03 | Ainulindale | GNUtoo: no, you have to manually edit the rules in etc |
| 19:45.09 | GNUtoo | Ainulindale, ah ok |
| 19:45.17 | hipitihop | waves good morning |
| 19:45.29 | GNUtoo | so i can't use events via dbus... |
| 19:45.37 | Ainulindale | Yes you can |
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| 19:45.44 | Ainulindale | But defaults are defined in etdc |
| 19:45.45 | Ainulindale | -d |
| 19:45.49 | Ainulindale | to be persistent |
| 19:47.12 | GNUtoo | Ainulindale, ok thanks a lot |
| 19:47.19 | Ainulindale | You're welcome |
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| 19:50.16 | edje | hi all, i have "profile unknown" and the freerunner does not ring when called. how can i restore it to ring+vibrate ( without rebooting) |
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| 19:59.16 | bipak_ | edje: on OM2008? |
| 19:59.24 | edje | yup |
| 19:59.45 | bipak_ | on the settings menu you have "profile unknown"? |
| 19:59.48 | bipak_ | strange |
| 19:59.53 | edje | perhaps i shoulkd explain some more: |
| 19:59.59 | gurugentoo | is gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin the newest uBoot ( http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ ) |
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| 20:00.23 | edje | if i want to make a gprs connection i kill qpe, it would otherwise holds the modem locked. |
| 20:00.48 | edje | after restarting qpe, my freerunner seems confused and does not ring anymore |
| 20:01.49 | zogg_ | night night |
| 20:01.59 | edje | i can make outgoing calls however |
| 20:02.08 | edje | night zogg_ |
| 20:02.32 | bipak_ | really? hmm strange.. thought only one process can access the gsm tty device at a time |
| 20:03.05 | bipak_ | maybe you should try it with gsm0710muxd |
| 20:03.13 | edje | that is why i kill qpe, wait until i am finished with the gprs connection, and restart qpe again |
| 20:04.09 | edje | well, i don't mind beeing unable to place or receive a call when using gprs, but i woul like it restored to a sane state after i am done |
| 20:04.46 | edje | ( rebooting fixes it, but takes flaming forever....) |
| 20:04.52 | bipak_ | hehe yes |
| 20:05.17 | bipak_ | looked with lsof /dev/ttySAC0 if anything is still using the device after closing the gprs conn? |
| 20:05.55 | edje | hmm, no not yet, it might be an idea. but i can make outgoing calls, so i think it is free for qte to use it |
| 20:06.18 | bipak_ | yes, it should... but that was my last idea *g* |
| 20:07.09 | bipak_ | you start qpe with "/etc/init.d/xserver...nodm start" after doing the gprs stuff? |
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| 20:08.27 | bipak_ | or is there still some X stuff running after killing qpe |
| 20:09.20 | edje | i leave the xserver runnning |
| 20:10.04 | bipak_ | do you need it? |
| 20:10.17 | bipak_ | otherweise i would say to stop the whol x server |
| 20:10.24 | edje | yes, i would like to be able to see if the gprs connection is made or not |
| 20:10.49 | edje | restarting the xserver does help ! |
| 20:10.57 | bipak_ | aha :) |
| 20:11.05 | bipak_ | so now see at the init script what it does |
| 20:11.09 | bipak_ | before it starts qpe |
| 20:11.11 | edje | at leaset it says "ring and vibrate" |
| 20:11.36 | edje | let me check if i can call the FR too |
| 20:13.51 | edje | yup! |
| 20:14.01 | edje | so let's dig in the init scripts ! |
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| 20:16.24 | bipak_ | hurray :D |
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| 20:18.22 | LionKMP | is the default mplayer on FR not xglamo accelerated? |
| 20:18.26 | LionKMP | om 2008.9 |
| 20:18.52 | bipak_ | mplayer -vo help |
| 20:18.58 | LionKMP | then no |
| 20:19.15 | bipak_ | i think so |
| 20:19.20 | LionKMP | should I see "glamo" there? |
| 20:19.41 | LionKMP | fbdev, fbdev2, v42l, mpegpes, yuv4mpeg, nulll, png, jpg |
| 20:19.46 | gurugentoo | where can I find compiled kernel modules (2.6.24 kernel)? |
| 20:20.00 | bipak_ | LionKMP: iirc yes |
| 20:20.07 | gurugentoo | I seem to be missing my SD/mmc card driver |
| 20:20.23 | bipak_ | LionKMP: there is a howto somewhere how to set it up |
| 20:20.45 | LionKMP | bipak_: :-) will it be faster? is it worth the hassle? |
| 20:21.04 | bipak_ | well somebody was able to watch a movie with it |
| 20:21.09 | bipak_ | but i haven't tried it |
| 20:21.11 | LionKMP | will om 2009.10 provide it, you think? I'd rather wait if yes. |
| 20:21.21 | bipak_ | no idea |
| 20:21.32 | edje | LionKMP: i tried it last week and it would only play in the top half of the screen. there is an mplayer with the glamo driver on the internet |
| 20:21.38 | LionKMP | ok, thanks anyway. :) I saw a binary link in the mailing list, I'll try that maybe. |
| 20:21.55 | bipak_ | yes why not :) |
| 20:22.02 | LionKMP | edje: play top half, which version? my non-glamo one plays full screen. |
| 20:22.03 | bipak_ | wouldnt hurt :> |
| 20:22.47 | techiem2-r | I played a min of BBB the other night on mine |
| 20:23.11 | techiem2-r | didn't do anything special other than reencoding down to 320x240 rotated with the command in the wiki |
| 20:23.12 | edje | LionKMP: i don;t know the versiion, i removed the package. but please try, and report succes or failure |
| 20:23.38 | LionKMP | edje: ok :) |
| 20:23.38 | techiem2-r | seemed to play fine other than the vertical line distortion and such as mentioned on the wiki |
| 20:23.53 | LionKMP | techiem2-r: define "fine" :) |
| 20:24.02 | techiem2-r | it played, sound was good |
| 20:24.06 | techiem2-r | seemed in sync |
| 20:24.27 | LionKMP | my one surely does not play right framerate. especially when something else takes a little 5% CPU too. |
| 20:24.28 | techiem2-r | just color off a bit and vertical distortion lines |
| 20:24.46 | techiem2-r | but I kinda expected that from readin the wiki |
| 20:24.47 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 20:24.54 | LionKMP | I would expect it to be perfect if hw acceleration for mpg4 is present :) |
| 20:25.04 | LionKMP | 320x200 that is |
| 20:25.13 | LionKMP | s/200/240/ |
| 20:25.18 | techiem2-r | yeah |
| 20:25.19 | techiem2-r | whatever |
| 20:25.20 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 20:25.51 | techiem2-r | actually it's 320x180 |
| 20:26.04 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 20:26.13 | techiem2-r | at least mine is |
| 20:26.32 | LionKMP | smething installed "pulseaudio", I think before that playback was much faster. |
| 20:26.39 | techiem2-r | but I used the 1080p source vid |
| 20:26.47 | techiem2-r | yeah, pulse has issues on the FR |
| 20:26.53 | techiem2-r | unfortunately |
| 20:27.12 | LionKMP | hm, killall pulseaudio also helps a lot |
| 20:27.16 | techiem2-r | lol |
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| 20:30.25 | kirun | killall is one of my favourite commands: for when you want to be sure :) |
| 20:30.45 | techiem2-r | mhm |
| 20:30.51 | techiem2-r | nothin like a good killall -9 |
| 20:30.52 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 20:31.31 | kirun | For some reason*, firefox bears the brunt of my killalls |
| 20:31.35 | kirun | * Flash |
| 20:31.51 | techiem2-r | hehe |
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| 20:32.02 | techiem2-r | I tend to nuke it every few days or so |
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| 20:32.27 | techiem2-r | for some reason once it's been up for a few days wtih 20+ tabs open it starts eating my ram..... |
| 20:32.30 | techiem2-r | lol |
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| 20:37.11 | bipak_ | edje: are you lost in the init file? *g* |
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| 20:38.56 | edje | haha, no but there is nothing there that givers any idea on why restarting the xserver makes things work. perhaps i need to get some sleep and have a fresh look tommorow |
| 20:39.34 | bipak_ | hehe yes. need also some sleep now.. |
| 20:39.53 | edje | goodnight, and thanks for the help ! |
| 20:40.07 | bipak_ | np |
| 20:40.11 | bipak_ | gnight |
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| 20:42.43 | andrew2325 | hi, i can't connect to my freerunner via usb |
| 20:43.33 | sicu | andrew2325: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 20:43.38 | lindi- | andrew2325: ifconfig; uname -r; lsmod on both sides please |
| 20:43.41 | andrew2325 | i did that |
| 20:43.47 | XorA | this on first boot? |
| 20:43.57 | andrew2325 | no, i installed the latest software |
| 20:44.01 | andrew2325 | now there is no terminal |
| 20:44.08 | andrew2325 | so i can't run any commands on it |
| 20:44.40 | lindi- | hard to do any development with that |
| 20:45.04 | andrew2325 | agreed, i thought it would be a good idea to upgrade. anyway, it wasn't. |
| 20:45.24 | andrew2325 | so i guess i should downgrade to the original openmoko kernel? |
| 20:45.40 | lindi- | andrew2325: terminal surely has nothing to do with kernel |
| 20:45.59 | andrew2325 | i mean the software, ass fucker |
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| 20:46.14 | techiem2-r | mmk... |
| 20:46.22 | lindi- | ? |
| 20:46.50 | sigi | To fill in the awkward silence ..... When making a call with my openmoko the receiving end gets an appaling sound quality (loud buzzing noise). I have tried 2007.2 and qtextended and both have the problem. Is this a known problem ? Is it a bad microphone ? Do i need a particular kernel ? |
| 20:46.54 | sicu | uhmm... |
| 20:47.25 | nyu | can live with that |
| 20:47.25 | lindi- | sigi: kernel surely can't have anything to do with that |
| 20:47.29 | techiem2-r | I thought I read something somewhere about tweaking the mixer settings to help with that |
| 20:47.34 | lindi- | sigi: how could kernel influence that? |
| 20:47.47 | sigi | lindi- , a particular driver ? |
| 20:48.02 | lindi- | sigi: but the audio goes from GSM chip to speakers, kernel does not see it |
| 20:48.20 | lindi- | sigi: kernel can crash and you can keep talking |
| 20:48.22 | nyu | lindi-: sigi mentioned the reverse path |
| 20:48.36 | lindi- | reverse path? |
| 20:48.43 | nyu | from mic to gsm chip |
| 20:48.52 | lindi- | but kernel does not see that either |
| 20:48.53 | sigi | lindi-, Oh ok, i was thinking maybe driver for the adc in the microphone |
| 20:49.16 | lindi- | sigi: nope it's not a kernel thing at all afaik |
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| 20:52.51 | sigi | techiem2-r, Ok thanks I'll go and try google for mixer settings |
| 20:53.04 | techiem2-r | I think the wiki mentioned something about it |
| 20:53.07 | techiem2-r | *shrug* |
| 20:53.20 | techiem2-r | mine hasn't been a prob I don't think |
| 20:53.32 | techiem2-r | fam said there's a little hiss but not much |
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| 21:08.32 | just_asking_a_qu | i have followed these http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8/ru instructions, and i still can't access the repositories to install software. |
| 21:09.16 | just_asking_a_qu | i'm sharing my internet connection on my desktop with the freerunner |
| 21:09.35 | LionKMP | is it working? can you ssh to the FR, and ping www.google.com from there? |
| 21:09.59 | LionKMP | wow, i can read the russian article :) |
| 21:10.12 | just_asking_a_qu | i can ssh into it, but i can't ping anything |
| 21:10.25 | just_asking_a_qu | i can ping this computer just fine |
| 21:10.32 | max_posedon | just_asking_a_qu, first of all, check dns |
| 21:10.57 | max_posedon | hm, read USB Networking manual, (и вÑÑ Ð·Ð°ÑабоÑÐ°ÐµÑ :)) |
| 21:12.41 | just_asking_a_qu | lol, i think i just fixed it |
| 21:13.04 | LionKMP | great :) |
| 21:13.33 | just_asking_a_qu | i made a stupid mistake |
| 21:13.48 | just_asking_a_qu | i forgot to add the dns-nameservers to the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 21:13.59 | LionKMP | cool |
| 21:14.09 | Gromgull | Roughly how long does it take to run make toolchain? |
| 21:14.31 | just_asking_a_qu | i just got mine yesterday, so you are asking the wrong person |
| 21:14.36 | just_asking_a_qu | lol |
| 21:14.58 | LionKMP | I downloaded it in binary form, didn't make. :) |
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| 21:17.27 | just_asking_a_qu | it still can't access the repos, but it's definitely a dns error. not sure how to go about configuring it though |
| 21:18.01 | LionKMP | if you added it to interfaces, you need to restart the interface I think. |
| 21:18.38 | LionKMP | or add to /etc/resolv.conf too. can you ping www.google.com now? |
| 21:19.41 | just_asking_a_qu | restarting the interface |
| 21:20.20 | just_asking_a_qu | actually, i restarted the whole thing |
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| 21:20.50 | LionKMP | coffeebreak :) |
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| 21:25.37 | just_asking_a_qu | it's a no go |
| 21:25.44 | just_asking_a_qu | the phone won't quit ringing |
| 21:26.07 | LionKMP | wow, you should be happy. my one does not ring, not even on calls. |
| 21:26.26 | wurp2|working | LionKMP: So you prefer a phone that is constantly ringing to one that never does? |
| 21:26.38 | LionKMP | wurp2|working: :-DDD ok, let me think again |
| 21:26.50 | wurp2|working | ;-) |
| 21:27.02 | just_asking_a_qu | g2g i'll be back |
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| 21:44.19 | timur_ | is there any reason iwconfig eth0 power off does not disable power management on the free runner? |
| 21:52.19 | ColdFyre | does 2.5G intrawebz work yet? i can't find any discussions on it |
| 21:52.40 | mwester | timur_: not sure what you mean? |
| 21:52.50 | viq | EDGE. |
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| 21:53.11 | timur_ | mwester, i do iwconfig eth0 power off |
| 21:53.20 | timur_ | but iwconfig still reports power management is enabled |
| 21:53.38 | mwester | then it's not supported by the driver, or possibly the chip |
| 21:53.39 | ColdFyre | i thought edge != 2.5/3g |
| 21:54.03 | mwester | It certainly is not possible to power off the wifi chip yet. |
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| 21:54.25 | Gromgull | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.27 | Gromgull | :( |
| 21:54.32 | timur_ | mwester, i would think power management would be disabled by default then |
| 21:56.04 | Gromgull | What openmakefile target do i need to run to get it to generate openmoko-libs.pc for pk-gconfig? For this to work: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_a_hello_world_application#GDK_the_Wrong_.2F_Easy_Way? |
| 21:58.42 | mwester | timur_: perhaps it can do some form of power management on its own, but one cannot change that power managment? Semantics... |
| 21:59.35 | mwester | At the moment the concern, I think, is more along the lines that one cannot do gross power management such as turning off the wifi for airplane mode at all. :D |
| 21:59.39 | gromez | just upgraded from fso unstable repos and it would not boot anymore, the progress bar of the boot screen doesn't start |
| 21:59.47 | mwester | Not to mention battery life problems caused by that... |
| 22:00.48 | timur_ | mwester, yea, i understand :) just was wondering if other people ran into that. how come the thing doesn't have a hardware RF switch? |
| 22:01.09 | mwester | Sigh. |
| 22:01.13 | timur_ | that seems like it'd be a good idea... :) |
| 22:01.17 | mwester | Yeah. |
| 22:01.33 | mwester | I've complained about that from the GTA01 days. |
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| 22:02.07 | timur_ | heh or they could at least ship it with a faraday cage carrying case, so you can drag it on the airplane with no complaints :) |
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| 22:02.09 | mwester | The GTA01 doesn't even have a way for the linux kernel to power off the GSM |
| 22:02.26 | timur_ | ooh, well, i'm glad i got into this now |
| 22:02.41 | mwester | So once the GSM is running, it stays running. Rumor has it that some software stacks will power off the GSM from software, if they shut down orderly. |
| 22:03.09 | timur_ | gotcha |
| 22:03.12 | *** part/#openmoko goingUp (n=gray@193.43.249.169) |
| 22:03.13 | mwester | In any case, the kernel can pull the plug on the wifi chip, but if it does that, it'll not come back software-wise unless you reboot. |
| 22:03.32 | mwester | So there is no control to turn that off right now. |
| 22:03.38 | timur_ | gotcha... that kinda sucks |
| 22:03.54 | timur_ | the wifi antenna seems kinda bad too... oh well, i'll stop complaining |
| 22:04.21 | mwester | What antenna would that be? The one that's nowhere to be found? :D |
| 22:04.26 | timur_ | yep |
| 22:04.29 | timur_ | the one that's on the chip |
| 22:04.51 | mwester | Yeah, at least the GPS antenna is where it's suppsoed to be. |
| 22:05.08 | vinicius | guys stop complainig, I ordered my last week and have still to go through customs hell |
| 22:05.13 | timur_ | i get like 50 for signal quality on the thing, when with my laptop i manage 90+... |
| 22:05.29 | timur_ | vinicius, ooops, i meant to say FR is the best thing that happened to me since ice cream :) |
| 22:06.17 | vinicius | lol, don't worry I supposedly know what I'm getting =P |
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| 22:07.53 | mwester | vinicius: It's like a broken leg -- you can read about it, and see others hobble about with it, but until you end up on crutches yourself, you really don't know what you're getting ;) |
| 22:09.20 | LionKMP | :-D |
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| 22:16.17 | raster | meep |
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| 22:29.30 | frojnd | hello there |
| 22:29.43 | frojnd | Will the prices of openmoko went down ? |
| 22:29.55 | frojnd | so I know when to buy it :D |
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| 22:30.18 | LionKMP | buy a used one |
| 22:30.34 | LionKMP | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/032442.html |
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| 22:32.03 | gromez | did anybody upgraded from fso unstable repo ? it seems broken with the latest big e upgrade, boot screen hangs |
| 22:32.31 | just_asking_a_qu | has anyone gotten the internet to work on 2008.9? |
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| 22:32.52 | LionKMP | just_asking_a_qu: of course (if you mean USB Netowrking) |
| 22:33.16 | just_asking_a_qu | i've followed all of the instructions, and it still does not work |
| 22:33.29 | LionKMP | can you ping IP if your rotuer? |
| 22:33.39 | LionKMP | or google's IP? |
| 22:33.55 | LionKMP | 74.125.39.147 |
| 22:33.55 | just_asking_a_qu | i haven't tried an ip, but i have tried pinging www.google.com |
| 22:34.08 | just_asking_a_qu | PING 74.125.39.147 (74.125.39.147): 56 data bytes |
| 22:34.08 | just_asking_a_qu | ping: sendto: Network is unreachable |
| 22:34.24 | LionKMP | wow, does the same work from your PC, from which you SSH to Neo? |
| 22:34.41 | gromez | did you enable ip_forward ? |
| 22:34.56 | just_asking_a_qu | it works |
| 22:35.14 | just_asking_a_qu | i guess not |
| 22:35.31 | LionKMP | hehe, you should. that's why I asked "can you ping your rotuer"? |
| 22:35.47 | just_asking_a_qu | what router? |
| 22:35.53 | just_asking_a_qu | lol |
| 22:35.54 | LionKMP | I used Mandriva's internet sharing wizard, shared the internet to usb0 network. |
| 22:36.09 | just_asking_a_qu | i used firestarter to share the internet connection with it |
| 22:36.21 | LionKMP | my router is 192.168.0.1, i guess you know yours? |
| 22:36.30 | just_asking_a_qu | i don't have a router |
| 22:36.34 | techiem2-r | I used iptables and sysctl commands |
| 22:36.35 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 22:37.07 | LionKMP | I don't know firestarter. yes, the iptables and sysctl commands are listed on the USB_Networking page. |
| 22:37.17 | LionKMP | oh, and I needed to temporarily disable my PC's fire wall. |
| 22:37.23 | gromez | just_asking_a_qu: sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward |
| 22:37.39 | gromez | it returns 0 or 1 ? |
| 22:37.47 | just_asking_a_qu | 1 |
| 22:37.51 | techiem2-r | mmk |
| 22:38.28 | techiem2-r | what's route say on the fr? |
| 22:38.38 | just_asking_a_qu | huh? |
| 22:38.47 | just_asking_a_qu | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 22:38.47 | just_asking_a_qu | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:38.58 | LionKMP | wtf is "gnueabi" ? |
| 22:39.19 | techiem2-r | erm...that all route's giving you? |
| 22:39.24 | just_asking_a_qu | yep |
| 22:39.29 | LionKMP | can you ping your PC? 192.168.0.200? |
| 22:39.41 | LionKMP | (I assume your ssh'd to 192.168.0.202) |
| 22:39.44 | techiem2-r | probably need to add default route |
| 22:39.51 | DocScrutinizer | bviously not, no route ;-) |
| 22:39.54 | just_asking_a_qu | yea, it pings the computer |
| 22:40.05 | *** part/#openmoko leachim_dot_eu_ (n=Leachim@78.43.158.113) |
| 22:40.07 | just_asking_a_qu | well, tell me how one would go about doing such a thing |
| 22:40.12 | just_asking_a_qu | networking is not my forte |
| 22:40.20 | frojnd | LionKMP: I'm from slovenia. Don't think I'll profit any money becose ship costs :S |
| 22:40.21 | techiem2-r | route add default gw 192.168.0.200 |
| 22:40.24 | techiem2-r | I believe it is |
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| 22:41.00 | just_asking_a_qu | will i need to restart the freerunner? |
| 22:41.08 | techiem2-r | nope |
| 22:41.12 | LionKMP | frojnd: hm, I see (hi neightbour :) ). If you wait a few weeks, mabye someone will want to sell near here too ;-) |
| 22:41.34 | just_asking_a_qu | i still can't ping anything outside of my network |
| 22:41.38 | frojnd | LionKMP: hi :) where u from |
| 22:41.47 | techiem2-r | hmm |
| 22:41.48 | LionKMP | frojnd: hungary |
| 22:42.03 | techiem2-r | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.09 | frojnd | LionKMP: nice I study near you in Maribor :P |
| 22:42.24 | frojnd | Maybe u know Pohorje |
| 22:42.26 | just_asking_a_qu | it is empty |
| 22:42.43 | techiem2-r | ok |
| 22:42.47 | LionKMP | frojnd: :-) (I am far from that border, at Budapest). no, sorry, I don't know that. |
| 22:42.48 | techiem2-r | you need |
| 22:42.59 | techiem2-r | nameserver ip-of-your-dns-server |
| 22:42.59 | techiem2-r | in it |
| 22:43.04 | frojnd | LionKMP: Now you know :). |
| 22:43.07 | just_asking_a_qu | i worship thee oh techiem2 |
| 22:43.07 | *** part/#openmoko FilipLinux4BE (n=Filip@77.109.122.187) |
| 22:43.17 | frojnd | Does wifi supports wpa enterprise ? |
| 22:43.25 | frojnd | support |
| 22:43.30 | techiem2-r | so cat /etc/resolv.conf on the sharing box to see what you're using |
| 22:44.40 | just_asking_a_qu | okay |
| 22:44.52 | techiem2-r | then |
| 22:44.55 | LionKMP | wow I made an IPK! |
| 22:45.08 | techiem2-r | echo "nameserver blah-blah">/etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:45.11 | techiem2-r | on the fr |
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| 22:45.36 | LionKMP | default 192.168.0.200 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:45.36 | techiem2-r | and if you do it right and all else is well you should have inet |
| 22:45.37 | mwester | frojnd: I presume that it will, eventually. But right now it doesn't support WPA hardly at all, and ordinary WEP or open connections are rather poor... |
| 22:45.55 | LionKMP | just_asking_a_qu: see above for my "default" line in output of "route" you should have that now, do you? |
| 22:46.07 | techiem2-r | hopefully... |
| 22:46.08 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 22:46.29 | techiem2-r | I have mine running on a couple wep networks and a wpa-psk network |
| 22:46.29 | just_asking_a_qu | root@om-gta02:~# route |
| 22:46.30 | just_asking_a_qu | Kernel IP routing table |
| 22:46.30 | just_asking_a_qu | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 22:46.30 | just_asking_a_qu | 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:46.30 | just_asking_a_qu | default 192.168.0.128 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:46.40 | LionKMP | mwester: oh, no WPA yet? So that's why I never get it connecting! :-( |
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| 22:46.58 | frojnd | mwester: 'eventually' whom do I have to donate money so it will becom pretty soon ? |
| 22:47.10 | frojnd | there should be a list where u wanna donate money |
| 22:47.19 | frojnd | in what development |
| 22:47.20 | techiem2-r | coders for hire |
| 22:47.22 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 22:47.32 | just_asking_a_qu | it still doesn't access the net. |
| 22:47.47 | just_asking_a_qu | this thing is the devil |
| 22:48.25 | just_asking_a_qu | sent a ping and it just hangs |
| 22:48.31 | just_asking_a_qu | ctrl+c |
| 22:48.39 | Tig| | LionKMP: I have had WPA running on all official OM stacks |
| 22:48.47 | techiem2-r | 128 is your desktop machine? |
| 22:49.06 | LionKMP | Tig|: cool, hopefully it will connect sometime. Om 2008.9 here too. |
| 22:49.13 | just_asking_a_qu | i would assume it is |
| 22:49.25 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 22:49.34 | just_asking_a_qu | lol |
| 22:49.34 | techiem2-r | k, since that's what you're routing through |
| 22:49.36 | just_asking_a_qu | no it's not |
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| 22:49.46 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 22:49.48 | LionKMP | 128 on USB8 I mean |
| 22:49.50 | LionKMP | he means |
| 22:49.54 | techiem2-r | yeah |
| 22:49.57 | LionKMP | ifconfig's usb0 on the PC |
| 22:50.16 | just_asking_a_qu | debian:/home/andrew# ifconfig usb0 |
| 22:50.16 | just_asking_a_qu | usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr a6:8b:7e:4a:4f:09 |
| 22:50.16 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.16 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.16 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.17 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.19 | Tig| | LionKMP: you want something like lintwifi, don't use the bundled app as it does not work |
| 22:50.19 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.21 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.31 | LionKMP | hehe, there was a typo on the route add |
| 22:50.34 | techiem2-r | what's eth0 on the desktop? |
| 22:50.39 | Tig| | you may need to create your own wpasupplicant.conf file too |
| 22:50.57 | techiem2-r | direct inet link? or router or some such? |
| 22:51.12 | just_asking_a_qu | debian:/home/andrew# ifconfig eth0 |
| 22:51.12 | just_asking_a_qu | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:f3:ac:df:ca |
| 22:51.12 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.12 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.12 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.13 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.15 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.16 | techiem2-r | ok |
| 22:51.17 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.19 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.21 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.22 | LionKMP | Tig|: I tried many many variants of wpasupplicant.conf files and also many GUIs, Wiki Mofi, Lint too I think. |
| 22:51.22 | techiem2-r | so should be good |
| 22:51.24 | just_asking_a_qu | i'm connected directly to a dsl modem |
| 22:51.29 | techiem2-r | yeah |
| 22:51.32 | LionKMP | FFS paste only the IP address line :D |
| 22:51.34 | mwester | LionKMP: THere's no working GUI support for WPA anywhere that I've found, and once you get it working manually, I've found it just locks up, or drops the connection and then you need to reboot to get it back. |
| 22:51.42 | techiem2-r | so you need to fix the route |
| 22:51.43 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 22:51.49 | just_asking_a_qu | lol |
| 22:51.54 | techiem2-r | um... |
| 22:51.56 | just_asking_a_qu | what did i type wrong.... |
| 22:51.58 | techiem2-r | route del something..... |
| 22:52.01 | techiem2-r | hmm |
| 22:52.07 | techiem2-r | how did that work |
| 22:52.15 | just_asking_a_qu | i forgot to fucking put a period |
| 22:52.18 | just_asking_a_qu | jeez |
| 22:52.25 | LionKMP | techiem2-r> route add default gw 192.168.0.200 |
| 22:52.29 | techiem2-r | yeah |
| 22:52.40 | techiem2-r | but will that overridt the broken one? |
| 22:52.44 | techiem2-r | or does he need to delete first? |
| 22:52.46 | LionKMP | I think you wrote 128 there, isntead 200. |
| 22:52.51 | techiem2-r | yeah |
| 22:52.51 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 22:52.54 | just_asking_a_qu | the broken one is still there |
| 22:53.05 | just_asking_a_qu | so that's in /etc/resolv.conf right? |
| 22:53.08 | just_asking_a_qu | i can just take it out |
| 22:53.13 | just_asking_a_qu | or is there a command |
| 22:53.22 | techiem2-r | route del something... |
| 22:53.31 | techiem2-r | been a while since I've used it |
| 22:53.42 | LionKMP | mwester: ok, thanks, I'll try that later when it's announced to be supported. :-) |
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| 22:53.47 | just_asking_a_qu | dude, i've never messed with linux networking |
| 22:53.49 | techiem2-r | well, route del default will delete it |
| 22:53.51 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 22:53.56 | techiem2-r | might delete both... |
| 22:54.06 | LionKMP | just_asking_a_qu: the strange thing is that this worked for us out of the box. I think. |
| 22:55.01 | just_asking_a_qu | route still takes seven forevers to load, but it's set to the 200 one |
| 22:55.06 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 22:55.12 | techiem2-r | you do route del default? |
| 22:55.16 | just_asking_a_qu | yea |
| 22:55.19 | techiem2-r | mmk |
| 22:55.19 | LionKMP | route -n |
| 22:55.21 | LionKMP | next time |
| 22:55.23 | just_asking_a_qu | trice |
| 22:55.24 | just_asking_a_qu | lol |
| 22:55.26 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 22:55.27 | techiem2-r | ok |
| 22:55.29 | just_asking_a_qu | twice i mean |
| 22:55.33 | techiem2-r | so there should be no default routes listed |
| 22:55.40 | techiem2-r | hopefully... |
| 22:55.45 | techiem2-r | then you can add the right one |
| 22:55.48 | just_asking_a_qu | still can't access the repository |
| 22:55.59 | LionKMP | u are not listening |
| 22:56.19 | just_asking_a_qu | Kernel IP routing table |
| 22:56.19 | just_asking_a_qu | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 22:56.19 | just_asking_a_qu | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:56.19 | just_asking_a_qu | 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 22:56.29 | just_asking_a_qu | sorry, i hate chat rooms |
| 22:57.30 | just_asking_a_qu | at least i can send and receive phone calls |
| 22:57.41 | Tig| | just_asking_a_qu: erm sorry just popped in, have you enabled ip forwarding on the desktop /laptop? |
| 22:57.50 | just_asking_a_qu | yep |
| 22:57.57 | just_asking_a_qu | i've had some invisible text messages |
| 22:58.00 | techiem2-r | erm... |
| 22:58.07 | techiem2-r | 0.0.0.0? |
| 22:58.13 | techiem2-r | might want to delete that route too.... |
| 22:58.15 | LionKMP | mwester: is there a description of the repository directory names "arm4vt" "all" "gta02", what goes in where? |
| 22:58.17 | just_asking_a_qu | ? |
| 22:58.23 | techiem2-r | route del 0.0.0.0 I think |
| 22:58.41 | techiem2-r | then do the route add default gw 192.168.0.200 |
| 22:58.41 | aggtrfrad | lol |
| 22:59.00 | just_asking_a_qu | that's default |
| 22:59.27 | techiem2-r | can you ping outside? |
| 23:00.02 | aggtrfrad | r u sure your neo and your pc interface have the same netmask? also u could use wireshark to see the trafic |
| 23:00.05 | just_asking_a_qu | hell yea |
| 23:00.09 | just_asking_a_qu | it's pinging google |
| 23:00.15 | just_asking_a_qu | wtf? |
| 23:00.24 | mwester | LionKMP: Nope, no descriptions. Those are developer distinctions, and probably should be removed at some point. |
| 23:00.25 | just_asking_a_qu | i added the same exact thing to it twice |
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| 23:01.06 | LionKMP | mwester: ok. actually I built two packages (fbreader and enca) and they went to different directories. If gonna be removed, I don't need to know more, thanks :) |
| 23:01.08 | just_asking_a_qu | but it pings |
| 23:01.34 | techiem2-r | lol |
| 23:01.46 | just_asking_a_qu | now i don't think the installer thing has anything in the repos |
| 23:01.55 | techiem2-r | the gui installer? |
| 23:01.59 | just_asking_a_qu | yea |
| 23:02.01 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 23:02.04 | just_asking_a_qu | it's probably garbage |
| 23:02.06 | techiem2-r | it doesn't seem to list much.... |
| 23:02.28 | techiem2-r | I use it for the few things it lists that I want then use cli after that |
| 23:02.42 | just_asking_a_qu | i tried to install illume-config |
| 23:02.53 | just_asking_a_qu | an error ocurred, return value 2? |
| 23:03.03 | techiem2-r | hmm |
| 23:03.08 | techiem2-r | opkg install illume-config? |
| 23:03.27 | just_asking_a_qu | that qtopia keyboard milks bulls |
| 23:03.50 | techiem2-r | might want to opkg update first |
| 23:03.59 | just_asking_a_qu | that could be the problem |
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| 23:04.16 | just_asking_a_qu | kinda like apt-get |
| 23:05.10 | LionKMP | ok, have fun, bye all |
| 23:05.10 | just_asking_a_qu | root@om-gta02:~# opkg update |
| 23:05.10 | just_asking_a_qu | Collected errors: |
| 23:05.10 | just_asking_a_qu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.17 | LionKMP | killall packagekitd |
| 23:06.06 | Tig| | -o_ |
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| 23:06.41 | just_asking_a_qu | yay |
| 23:06.46 | just_asking_a_qu | it's downloading the repos |
| 23:06.54 | just_asking_a_qu | the package lists |
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| 23:08.27 | just_asking_a_qu | are the signature checks supposed to fail? |
| 23:11.00 | aggtrfrad | could my u-boot entries cause the device to not load the usb acm support on the nand u-boot menu? |
| 23:12.05 | aggtrfrad | i just flashed u-boot using dfu-util but my problem remains, acm does not work in the nand u-boot menu, while it works in nor |
| 23:12.10 | just_asking_a_qu | something is still wrong with my networking |
| 23:12.30 | just_asking_a_qu | i think it's the dns |
| 23:12.39 | just_asking_a_qu | well, it couldn't be |
| 23:13.16 | just_asking_a_qu | it pings fine, now it just fails to install packages/check signatures |
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| 23:16.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03laforge * r4709 10/trunk/src/target/input-filter/ (. input-filter.c): |
| 23:16.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: Add a small (written in C) helper program that filters /dev/input/event |
| 23:16.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: file and removes all ABS and REL type events from the event stream. |
| 23:16.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: This is to be used as a quick fix to solve performance problems with |
| 23:16.25 | CIA-22 | openmoko: current FSO related to FSO processing each and every individual ABS_X/ABS_Y |
| 23:16.27 | CIA-22 | openmoko: event from s3c2410_ts |
| 23:16.35 | techiem2-r | erm... |
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| 23:24.02 | Toaster` | Anyone out there willing to help me with a (I think) wpa_supplicant issue? I can connect to open APs, but not to encrypted (WPA/WPA2) APs. |
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| 23:32.32 | techiem2-r | do you have wpa_supplicant.conf written? |
| 23:32.47 | Toaster` | I do |
| 23:33.14 | techiem2-r | and /etc/network/interfaces tweaked? |
| 23:33.15 | Toaster` | I'll post it to pastebin in a minute |
| 23:33.44 | Toaster` | yes, both as per the wiki, adn tweaked to my setup |
| 23:33.55 | techiem2-r | mmk |
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| 23:35.26 | CIA-22 | openmoko: 03laforge * r4710 10/trunk/src/target/input-filter/README: add README for input-filter |
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| 23:36.29 | Dave | summon raster |
| 23:36.46 | raster | COMPLY! |
| 23:37.11 | Dave | Acknowledged. |
| 23:37.52 | Dave | So, Mr. Raster... |
| 23:37.58 | Dave | What have you been working on lately? |
| 23:38.23 | Dave | The last illume build was a while ago, so I suppose you're busy with other things :) |
| 23:38.31 | raster | i'm always busy |
| 23:38.33 | raster | with other things |
| 23:39.39 | Toaster` | techiem2-r, et al.: http://pastebin.com/d5351b9ff |
| 23:40.24 | techiem2-r | mmk |
| 23:40.41 | Dave | yeah yeah |
| 23:40.51 | Toaster` | techiem2-r: it seems to connect, but then fails to get an IP |
| 23:40.55 | Dave | Raster can we expect anything new in the coming weeks? |
| 23:41.27 | raster | dunno |
| 23:41.33 | raster | not working opn illume |
| 23:41.34 | Dave | Depends on your mood? |
| 23:41.41 | Toaster` | just cycles through "Sending discover" et infinium |
| 23:42.01 | Toaster` | With an open network, it pulls an IP on the first try |
| 23:42.33 | Dave | uh huh |
| 23:42.41 | Dave | This might be an indication something is wrong :) |
| 23:43.13 | Toaster` | Quite true, what I seek to discover it what that something is! |
| 23:43.48 | Dave | your configuration most likely |
| 23:43.49 | Dave | :p |
| 23:43.58 | Dave | It's unable to successfully connect to the AP |
| 23:44.02 | Toaster` | ... |
| 23:44.07 | Dave | or rather, pull an IP |
| 23:44.11 | Dave | but I'm assuming you knew that :P |
| 23:44.20 | techiem2-r | http://pastebin.com/m370956ca |
| 23:44.23 | techiem2-r | there's mine |
| 23:45.02 | Toaster` | techiem2-r: and it works fine? |
| 23:45.11 | techiem2-r | yeah |
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| 23:46.05 | techiem2-r | wep network, wpa-psk network |
| 23:46.39 | techiem2-r | killing the usb routes good idea though |
| 23:46.39 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 23:47.03 | techiem2-r | I usually just down usb0 |
| 23:47.03 | Toaster` | yeah, I saw that in one of the working setup reports |
| 23:47.05 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 23:47.24 | raster | Dave: no. i am not paid to work on it. i am paid to do other things. i have no time |
| 23:47.50 | techiem2-r | time? what's time? |
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| 23:52.38 | Dave | Raster, what if we were to pay you? |
| 23:53.25 | slaxxin | yummy |
| 23:53.44 | slaxxin | dave he said theres no time |
| 23:53.58 | raster | Dave: i'd have to find time to slot it in wiht my other clients |
| 23:54.07 | raster | ie - it'd have to pay better than them |
| 23:54.26 | Dave | How well do they pay? |
| 23:54.26 | slaxxin | open source is not about the money |
| 23:54.29 | techiem2-r | gives raster a cookie |
| 23:55.34 | raster | slaxxin: but my bank account is :) |
| 23:55.53 | Dave | :D |
| 23:56.04 | Dave | touché |
| 23:56.09 | Toaster` | slaxxin: Tell that to Red Hat, Novell, etc |
| 23:56.15 | Dave | haha |
| 23:56.25 | raster | think about it |
| 23:57.04 | raster | "i can take 10 hours on something and earn $500 or i can earn $100 or i can earn $2000" |
| 23:57.12 | Dave | time to put raster's image on this phone |
| 23:57.14 | raster | either way all of them invovle fun stuff |
| 23:57.23 | raster | whihc do you choose? |
| 23:57.24 | raster | :) |
| 23:57.39 | techiem2-r | hehe |
| 23:57.41 | Dave | Raster, depends on what it is, and the fringe benefits. |
| 23:57.45 | mattl | raster: is your image based on Om2008 or FDOM or FSO or what? :) |
| 23:57.53 | raster | Dave: all are fun :) |
| 23:57.58 | raster | mattl: fso |
| 23:58.01 | Toaster` | raster: the flashy phone stuff that gets all the girls... yeah, that's the ticket |
| 23:58.02 | raster | but minus all the fso packages |
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| 23:58.21 | raster | to unnecessary fringe benefits there |
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| 23:58.30 | raster | and all of them invole flashy phone stuff |
| 23:58.31 | raster | :) |
| 23:58.35 | raster | thus all of them are fun |
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| 23:58.46 | mattl | i really wish i knew what to put on my phone. i really want to make calls/sms and have gps/maps and gprs data working. |
| 23:58.50 | Toaster` | raster: point |
| 23:59.38 | Toaster` | mattl: the first four are easy, the last I don't use it so I don't know |
| 23:59.42 | slaxxin | point is that greed causes distruction |
