| 00:00.08 | raster | work at home@! |
| 00:00.08 | raster | :) |
| 00:00.12 | raster | yeah |
| 00:00.17 | raster | internude still works |
| 00:00.18 | raster | laptosp work |
| 00:00.20 | raster | work! |
| 00:00.20 | raster | :) |
| 00:00.27 | jOERG_rw | and last one was lame (oops actually was before last I guess) |
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| 00:01.15 | jOERG_rw | btw: is there any real suspend mode on N810? |
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| 00:01.57 | jOERG_rw | or is that always only "dim, clockdown, and flash the nice LED"? |
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| 00:03.51 | mwester | It uses the OMAP, doesn't it? I think the OMAP suspend is rather different than the Samsung, and I think it could actually power down almost everything except the core, and clock that down really low. But I don't know how they actually do it. |
| 00:04.43 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: it's more like dim and stop the clocks until there's something to do |
| 00:04.52 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: there's suspend too, but maemo doesn't use it |
| 00:04.59 | jOERG_rw | well, samsung 64xx should be able to power down in function blocks as well, no? |
| 00:05.02 | balrog-k1n | it has a gui to enter suspend though |
| 00:05.20 | raster | jo some people worked on "real suspend" for n800 |
| 00:05.22 | jOERG_rw | what's that called |
| 00:05.26 | raster | but i dont think they ever got it working well |
| 00:05.37 | balrog-k1n | raster: it worked out of the box for me |
| 00:05.40 | bricode | jOERG_rw: mwester: if you want N810 suspend traces, let me know. |
| 00:05.40 | raster | joas such the n800 never suspends as it coems from nokia |
| 00:05.46 | balrog-k1n | with the default kernel |
| 00:06.02 | raster | balrog-k1n: i rememebr reading about it a year ago or so and people having problems |
| 00:06.06 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: how to do it? |
| 00:06.13 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: do you have the R&D maemo image installeD? |
| 00:06.26 | jOERG_rw | probably not |
| 00:06.34 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: i suppose just echo mem > /sys/power/state would work too |
| 00:06.47 | balrog-k1n | the R&D images have a program named Field Test Monitor |
| 00:06.53 | jOERG_rw | will try that, mompl... |
| 00:07.14 | balrog-k1n | it does all kiinds of maintenance stuff, very nice, draws graphs of the voltages on different pins in time etc |
| 00:09.34 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: gnnn, rw-r--r--, and I don't have root-pw (*blush*) |
| 00:10.23 | balrog-k1n | ah |
| 00:10.27 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: where to get R&D? some repository to add to progmanager? |
| 00:11.01 | balrog-k1n | you could try "sudo gainroot" but it may work or not.. to gain root |
| 00:11.14 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: i don't know, i had to download it from and internal vpn |
| 00:11.18 | balrog-k1n | *an |
| 00:11.39 | balrog-k1n | because the device had no serial number so i could even download anything official :p |
| 00:11.40 | jOERG_rw | yup, worked (root) |
| 00:13.11 | jOERG_rw | echo mem > /sys/power/state blanks screen (=dims) but comes up 2sec later again |
| 00:13.35 | jOERG_rw | now it's frozen :D |
| 00:13.47 | balrog-k1n | hmm :p |
| 00:14.02 | balrog-k1n | i had some touchscreen issues after resume iirc |
| 00:14.07 | jOERG_rw | actually the shell where I issued cmd only |
| 00:14.23 | balrog-k1n | oh and i think and i had to release the enter key really quickly for it to stay in suspend |
| 00:14.24 | jOERG_rw | rest of device is well and up |
| 00:15.02 | raster | jOERG_rw: might want to change root password while u're at it :) |
| 00:15.26 | jOERG_rw | ATM KBD is dead |
| 00:15.34 | jOERG_rw | TS alive |
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| 00:17.06 | jOERG_rw | gnhnnnhnhn, will have to boot :-/ |
| 00:17.11 | raster | as i said |
| 00:17.14 | raster | i read peole have problems |
| 00:17.15 | raster | :) |
| 00:17.19 | jOERG_rw | lol |
| 00:17.19 | raster | dont remember the details |
| 00:17.22 | raster | :) |
| 00:17.24 | MnemonicPunk | raster? Any progress with that patch? |
| 00:17.29 | raster | but why bother with suspend |
| 00:17.37 | raster | u get says of time on "zero clock" |
| 00:17.40 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: suspending again may fix it |
| 00:17.46 | jOERG_rw | just out of curiosity |
| 00:17.52 | raster | MnemonicPunk: Receiving objects: 28% (48826/172648), 37.05 MiB | 9 KiB/s |
| 00:18.01 | raster | (feck git is being slow) |
| 00:18.11 | MnemonicPunk | Okay. ^^ |
| 00:18.16 | raster | btw |
| 00:18.17 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: lol, how should I do that??? |
| 00:18.38 | MnemonicPunk | Is there any way to make gpe look less ugly? |
| 00:19.07 | raster | http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/TMP/oe |
| 00:19.09 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: good question... on-screen kbd :p |
| 00:19.12 | balrog-k1n | or ssh in |
| 00:19.17 | jOERG_rw | WTF 9KiB/s?!!?? |
| 00:19.30 | raster | svn co http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/oe |
| 00:19.39 | raster | for my "oe setup" tree |
| 00:19.41 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: guide me to the menu entry to open it! |
| 00:19.42 | raster | and utils |
| 00:20.00 | raster | jOERG_rw: beats me. yes. wonderfully fast openembedded.org git |
| 00:20.04 | raster | and it definitely not my end |
| 00:20.09 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: if you slide the keyboard back in... it shoudl appear automagically.. in theory |
| 00:20.11 | raster | i got 24mbit to play with |
| 00:20.47 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: never seen this on my device |
| 00:21.14 | jOERG_rw | haaah, there it is, I just tapped to the screen randomly |
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| 00:21.45 | balrog-k1n | :-) |
| 00:22.57 | jOERG_rw | there seems a big difference between tapping by finger and tapping by stylus... :-/ |
| 00:23.43 | raster | MnemonicPunk: gpe.. yes. don't use it.. use e! :) |
| 00:23.45 | raster | muahhhahaha |
| 00:23.46 | raster | :) |
| 00:24.58 | aggtrfrad | can i get uboot-envedit into om2008.9? |
| 00:25.52 | MnemonicPunk | It does look good, yes. xD |
| 00:26.10 | MnemonicPunk | Which one does FSO use? |
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| 00:33.46 | raster | bugger it |
| 00:33.49 | raster | MnemonicPunk: ... |
| 00:33.53 | raster | svn co http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/oe |
| 00:33.56 | raster | patches in there |
| 00:35.10 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: suspended pretty, resumed k (on power button only) - alas KBD still broken |
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| 00:37.33 | playya | raster, there is a mistake in oe-flash-gta02.sh. last line should be $ROOTFS not $KERNEL |
| 00:39.16 | raster | oh yeah |
| 00:39.50 | jOERG_rw | :) reboot works with root priv |
| 00:42.33 | cjb | hm |
| 00:42.41 | cjb | I want my FR to beep at me when the battery's getting low |
| 00:42.51 | cjb | has anyone worked on that? are (FSO) patches welcome? |
| 00:43.29 | mwester_ | Yes, FSO patches are welcomed in my experience. |
| 00:43.42 | mwester_ | And I don't think there's been any serious work on the batt. low issue. |
| 00:44.17 | mwester_ | (IMO, that's a direct result of letting all the core devs use bench supplies) |
| 00:44.23 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: sleep 5 && echo mem > /sys/power/state actually works pretty (I closed the KBD before suspend) |
| 00:44.24 | MnemonicPunk | Alright, it works. =) Thanks raster |
| 00:45.22 | Dave | Joerg! :D |
| 00:45.48 | Dave | hey cjb :) |
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| 00:57.48 | Dave | What if any packages provide the cacerts? |
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| 00:59.06 | Dave | TORIKUNS |
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| 01:09.07 | Dave | :\ |
| 01:31.16 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: ah, so the keyboard driver sucks |
| 01:31.36 | balrog-k1n | jOERG_rw: an interesting question is whether it actually uses less power when suspended than running and idle |
| 01:31.49 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: seems your hint with "fast release of return key" is related |
| 01:32.17 | jOERG_rw | yup, but I guess it's at least saving power for the LED |
| 01:32.48 | balrog-k1n | true |
| 01:32.54 | jOERG_rw | I'd be interested in a "suspend to disk" ;-) |
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| 01:33.33 | balrog-k1n | although iirc it's one of those led chips that have a tiny memory that stores a "program" for the leds and can loop even when everything else is off |
| 01:33.43 | jOERG_rw | btw: it really sucks I got no micro->mini SD-adapter :-( |
| 01:34.08 | jOERG_rw | you have a pointer to schematics? |
| 01:35.25 | balrog-k1n | nope, i've only seen the driver |
| 01:36.14 | jOERG_rw | balrog-k1n: actually I did a second test right now, not "closing" the KBD, now it's stuck again |
| 01:36.20 | balrog-k1n | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/leds/leds-pca9532.c;h=4064d4f6b33b41a99d093d3e05c65f281ed60588;hb=HEAD <-- might be this one (there's a link to datasheet) |
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| 01:39.56 | balrog-k1n | nope, it's not |
| 01:40.14 | balrog-k1n | the n810 has the LP5521 |
| 01:42.19 | Dave | Joerg, any progress? |
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| 02:00.20 | Dave | ~_~ |
| 02:00.21 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 02:00.27 | Dave | -_- |
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| 02:29.03 | raster | mne does the oe tree i set up work? |
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| 03:22.41 | prjktdtnt | FSO users, would you say testing or unstable is better for regular use? |
| 03:22.51 | prjktdtnt | also how easy is it to install FSO to the SD Card? |
| 03:22.56 | prjktdtnt | without using debian |
| 03:28.26 | arquebus | does anyone know if its possible to install an open mobile linux OS on the Nokia 810? |
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| 03:32.20 | arquebus | another time |
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| 03:33.12 | prjktdtnt | Is there instructions on installing the base version of FSO-testing to the SD card (instead of using debian)? |
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| 03:38.45 | slaxxin | why not use debian? |
| 03:40.06 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: doesn't have the illume top bar by default which I actually kinda like about FSO, whatever is installed will default to SD card anyway since I want to keep my working 2008.8 on the flash |
| 03:40.12 | prjktdtnt | err well FDOM rather |
| 03:41.06 | slaxxin | ya fdom works ok except for duke nukem |
| 03:41.27 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: I don't use the games anyway lol |
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| 03:41.33 | sicu | prjktdtnt: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD |
| 03:41.48 | prjktdtnt | sicu: thanks |
| 03:42.06 | slaxxin | an something weird about the settings/services when one says wifi is off,,, its on in reality |
| 03:42.41 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: I know, I don't worry about it, spends most of the day in suspend anyway |
| 03:42.59 | slaxxin | what houers u getting? |
| 03:43.16 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: about 10-12 if I make a few phone calls through the day |
| 03:43.21 | slaxxin | time on vbatteriey |
| 03:43.45 | prjktdtnt | ? |
| 03:43.49 | slaxxin | yay |
| 03:43.56 | slaxxin | thats better |
| 03:44.16 | prjktdtnt | vbatteriey? |
| 03:44.39 | slaxxin | misspelled:) |
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| 03:44.51 | slaxxin | blind an cant type |
| 03:45.00 | prjktdtnt | right but are you talking the battery app on FDOM or a different app? |
| 03:45.32 | slaxxin | asking time frame on battery but u answered the ? |
| 03:46.17 | sicu | predicts confusion ;p |
| 03:46.18 | slaxxin | so is source avaliable for fdom? i heard talk of no-source ? |
| 03:46.35 | slaxxin | late prediction |
| 03:46.43 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: it's prebuilt, just a copy of 2008.9 that has modified configs IIRC |
| 03:47.00 | sicu | hehe ... all my predictions are late ... that makes them more accurate ;p |
| 03:47.11 | slaxxin | 100 % |
| 03:47.20 | sicu | ^^ |
| 03:47.39 | slaxxin | things ar looking better |
| 03:47.51 | sicu | yeh ... no source for fdom .. kinda violates gpl ... but meh |
| 03:47.54 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.22 | slaxxin | they just need to provide it is all correct? |
| 03:48.23 | prjktdtnt | sicu: technically, maybe someone should let the dev of FDOM know |
| 03:48.46 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: yes so long as it is available for download then their portion is fulfilled |
| 03:49.13 | sicu | i think they know already ... the way he does it is just install stuff on the phone and make a backup-image ... which is the one made available to us |
| 03:49.23 | prjktdtnt | sicu: correct |
| 03:49.24 | slaxxin | just has to be from their site an not openmokos site? |
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| 03:49.33 | prjktdtnt | slaxxin: that I'm not sure |
| 03:49.39 | sicu | i doubt that they will ever make source available to us ... it would require too much work on their part |
| 03:49.57 | prjktdtnt | sicu: if he grabbed the original source and dropped his modified files in it then his portion would be done |
| 03:51.43 | sicu | yeh .. i guess |
| 03:54.54 | prjktdtnt | so when trying to run the debian install.sh format I get this error, which program usually forces this to stay open I can never remember umount: /media/card: device is busy |
| 03:55.18 | prjktdtnt | nm |
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| 03:55.38 | prjktdtnt | got it, hadn't killed all the instances of qpe |
| 03:56.11 | prjktdtnt | did they ever fix the problem with partitions on large SD cards? |
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| 03:56.24 | prjktdtnt | right now I'm still using the 512 just because I've been being cheap |
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| 04:00.56 | sicu | nothing that's made its way into stable yet i think :/ |
| 04:01.13 | sicu | (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802) and (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/19154/focus=19281|) |
| 04:01.20 | prjktdtnt | sicu: ok I'll wait then, no point in upgrading and breaking it at the same time |
| 04:01.50 | sicu | hehe .. now where's the fun in playing it safe .. huh ? ;p |
| 04:02.25 | prjktdtnt | sicu: sadly when you just want things to work you sometimes have to play it safe |
| 04:02.39 | prjktdtnt | luckily things work for the most part so :) |
| 04:03.14 | sicu | true ... but if i just wanted things to work, i wouldnt have bought the FR |
| 04:03.24 | sicu | not for a while yet anyways |
| 04:03.46 | prjktdtnt | sicu: for what the primary purpose is for me it works daily |
| 04:03.47 | sicu | but it's fun being part of the work in progress |
| 04:03.59 | prjktdtnt | I SMS and make calls and I have been able to do that since day one without major issues |
| 04:04.19 | prjktdtnt | I did have a tough time finding the correct value for gsmhandset file but other than that it's been working great |
| 04:05.08 | sicu | same here actually ... i still have an updated 2007.2 image in flash that i use as my everyday phone |
| 04:05.47 | sicu | all other images are for testing and playing |
| 04:05.50 | prjktdtnt | sicu: i use FDOM primarily |
| 04:06.11 | sicu | hmm .. and u find that reliable as your everyday phone? |
| 04:06.17 | prjktdtnt | 2007.2 gave me issues when trying to SMS and was a little clunky for my taste |
| 04:06.26 | sicu | might have to give it another go |
| 04:06.38 | prjktdtnt | sicu: it is my everyday phone and has been for about a month now |
| 04:06.56 | prjktdtnt | qtopia dialer is clunky but otherwise all is good :) |
| 04:07.00 | sicu | cool =] |
| 04:07.36 | sicu | i'm sure the qtopia image would be reliable too ... but i just didnt like it |
| 04:07.38 | prjktdtnt | oh and qtmail sucks for sure (slow and the keyboard can bug out |
| 04:07.52 | prjktdtnt | sicu: same, was the most reliable but the biggest pain to get volume set right |
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| 04:08.22 | prjktdtnt | will be back in a few, feel like stretching for a moment |
| 04:08.44 | sicu | do you have a copy of the gsmhandset file you're using for fdom ? |
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| 04:09.01 | sicu | in case i decide to give it another go =] |
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| 04:11.52 | sicu | dunno why they dont work these tweaked gsmhandset files into the various stable images .... kinda annoying having to fix it everytime i flash |
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| 04:16.52 | prjktdtnt | sicu: agreed, sadly handset volume is already up so the biggest thing is turning up the mic (Mono Sidetone to full does the trick) |
| 04:18.12 | sicu | k ... thx |
| 04:18.26 | sicu | i'm off to bed ... it's 6am ;] |
| 04:18.38 | prjktdtnt | it's 9pm here so I'm just getting started lol |
| 04:18.42 | prjktdtnt | goodnight |
| 04:18.53 | sicu | good luck .... nite |
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| 04:39.07 | prjktdtnt | well I think I found another reason not to install debian to SD |
| 04:39.09 | prjktdtnt | it's broken |
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| 04:48.27 | ljp | the SD or debian? |
| 04:48.57 | prjktdtnt | ljp: debian, the repos are currently broken |
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| 04:51.05 | prjktdtnt | one of the dependencies for gstreamer has a problem (this would make it day two actually according to the lists) |
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| 04:52.46 | CIA-22 | openmoko: improve enum handling |
| 04:52.46 | CIA-22 | openmoko: ignore win32 only functions |
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| 05:16.48 | prjktdtnt | crosses fingers that he set up FSO on SD card properly |
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| 05:17.31 | prjktdtnt | Yes, got it right :) |
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| 05:28.23 | mbuf | IIRC, we cannot publish cell tower location coordinates on the web? |
| 05:28.48 | mbuf | there was some discussion regarding the same in the ML, I believe, not able to find the link |
| 05:29.21 | raster | why not? |
| 05:30.26 | mbuf | raster: giving away network operator infrastructure details? |
| 05:30.47 | raster | how did u get them? |
| 05:31.45 | mbuf | raster: all cell towers provide API that mobile phones can use to get the information; i am only not sure if one can publish them on the web |
| 05:32.28 | raster | then technically that dat amay be copyright to the telco |
| 05:32.28 | raster | BUT |
| 05:32.29 | raster | if u found out by 1. walkign aorund and looking at all cell tower i'd u have |
| 05:32.34 | raster | find the one with greatest strength |
| 05:32.45 | raster | and then use your own gps to get its location |
| 05:33.01 | raster | (ie you SEE the tower/antenna and walk to it and note the gps-coords) |
| 05:33.08 | raster | then its your info to publish as u see fit |
| 05:33.18 | raster | ie a "cell tower map" gathered independently |
| 05:33.58 | mbuf | raster: ok |
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| 06:10.17 | mickey|tw | charlie137: woot! |
| 06:10.20 | mickey|tw | that's cool |
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| 06:13.54 | charlie137 | mickey: yep |
| 06:13.57 | charlie137 | meeting ? |
| 06:14.11 | charlie137 | ah no |
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| 06:14.21 | charlie137 | just commented on the commit :) |
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| 06:21.13 | ieatlint | heh... so if you're on a bus, and a homeless guy with a cane (who very clearly needs it) seems out of breath and randomly has a nice looking bicycle with him... would you be suspicious? |
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| 06:27.24 | mwester | That's less the issue than if you are permitted in our screwed up society to take any action based on the incongruity. |
| 06:28.50 | ieatlint | i'm not, and didn't |
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| 06:30.15 | mwester | I'm rather less worried that someone will steal my beat-up Saturn as I am that they'll crash it into a tree when running from the police -- and then sue me because I didn't get the steering fixed before they stole it. |
| 06:31.15 | mwester | And some stupid useless judge will rule for the crook, because I need to ensure that my vehicle is safe for thieves at all times. |
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| 06:35.29 | ieatlint | mwester, 6th amendment states ""In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law." |
| 06:35.45 | ieatlint | so get a jury, no jury would give a theif damages |
| 06:35.56 | ieatlint | unless he sues for $19.99... then you're screwed |
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| 06:37.38 | SpeedEvil | Mantraps are illegal. |
| 06:37.53 | ieatlint | maybe in the UK they are |
| 06:38.03 | SpeedEvil | If you set it up so it's likely to be stolen - keys in - engine running - on the street - then you're gonna be liable. |
| 06:38.18 | SpeedEvil | If they've stolen it, it's really unlikely. |
| 06:38.24 | SpeedEvil | In the US too. |
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| 06:38.25 | doc|home | the point is, you shouldn't be |
| 06:38.25 | ieatlint | nope, there are other laws governing that |
| 06:38.39 | SpeedEvil | You can't setup booby-traps on your own land. |
| 06:38.49 | doc|home | SpeedEvil: you should be allowed to |
| 06:39.08 | ieatlint | lots of people leave their cars running unattended to warm them up in cold places, and many are stolen each year as such |
| 06:39.26 | doc|home | SpeedEvil: there was a case in the UK where a well known criminal stabbed a plain clothes police officer to death who was on his property. He was found not guilty of murder. |
| 06:39.43 | doc|home | it was his property after all. |
| 06:39.51 | FilipLinux4 | there are even places in this world where people have to leave the engines running while inside the shop or else they can't start it any longer |
| 06:40.31 | ieatlint | and booby trapping a house is legal, but certain traps break other laws |
| 06:40.44 | ieatlint | eg, setting up a weapon to fire at a door when it opens is another law you're breaking |
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| 06:41.06 | ieatlint | home alone style buckets of paint swining at them is legal, albeit inadvised |
| 06:41.31 | jitu3485 | I am not able to compile simple gtk application error_log is at URL: http://rafb.net/p/YONiY521.html |
| 06:41.39 | jitu3485 | code and makefile at URL: http://rafb.net/p/DDkUyA73.html |
| 06:41.56 | ieatlint | as to who you can kill on your property and what they need to be doing in order for you to be allowed to varies |
| 06:42.13 | ieatlint | in california, the rules are very strict... someone's life needs to be in imminent danger |
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| 06:42.31 | ieatlint | (so that guy running out with your tv... illegal to shoot him in the back) |
| 06:42.35 | mwester | In Illinois, it depends on who you know. |
| 06:42.40 | doc|home | unless you're a cop of course |
| 06:43.50 | ieatlint | probably... oakland cops are known for their itchy fingers |
| 06:44.15 | ieatlint | but then, they're also known for being shot at... so one could argue it's a self preservation issue |
| 06:44.31 | mwester | Drew Peterson - case in point. |
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| 07:11.17 | kraemate | hello everyone |
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| 07:12.39 | methril | morning |
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| 07:12.41 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: ogpsd: GTA02Device: Sleep after turning on the chip |
| 07:12.41 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: Make sure the GPS is ready to accept commands after powering it on |
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| 07:14.03 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:28.20 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.RetrieveMessagebook -- instead send an empty list. |
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| 07:39.10 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: ogsmd: sms.py: Don't encode the last 7 bit if they are padding |
| 07:39.10 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: This fixes a bug where the end of the message had a '@' character |
| 07:39.10 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: appended to it. This would always happen when the message was of such a |
| 07:39.12 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: length that the last bit of the character was encoded in a new byte. The |
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| 08:48.07 | CIA-22 | openmoko: [pye17] Do not hardcode paths |
| 08:48.07 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - use pkg-config and python-config to get the required paths |
| 08:48.07 | CIA-22 | openmoko: - For dependencies E_PATH still needs to be set |
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| 09:21.13 | Toutoug | how can I switch from 2008.09 stable to testing? |
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| 09:26.09 | Wonka | maaan... has freenode turned stock market node or why does it split like a splatter movie? |
| 09:29.04 | leinir | It's just being true to form ;) |
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| 09:43.29 | Tupeco | how do I disable the splash screen? |
| 09:43.58 | torpor | duct tape? |
| 09:44.49 | Tupeco | ...no |
| 09:45.12 | leinir | That disables the screen, not the splash screen ;) |
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| 09:50.21 | Tupeco | I'm not sure if the one I want to disable is in the kernel or if it's the psplash mentioned somewhere |
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| 10:02.19 | jitu3485 | can someone tell how can I build a simple gtk helloworld (creating a simple window) program on openmoko asu build? |
| 10:02.58 | jitu3485 | or some link?? |
| 10:04.40 | ieatlint | the same way you would on any linux computer |
| 10:05.01 | ieatlint | if you're asking how to cross compile, then that's an entirely different game... the wiki has info on building a toolchain |
| 10:06.21 | Tig|_ | jitu3485: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Python#Simple_Example_Scripts |
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| 10:10.23 | Ainulindale | quickdev: patch will be applied after my lunch :-p |
| 10:10.28 | quickdev | Ainulindale, ah, great :) |
| 10:11.01 | Ainulindale | Had to work this morning, |
| 10:11.06 | Ainulindale | I'll be available this afternoon |
| 10:11.09 | Tupeco | whoa.. qpe eats up nearly 75% of my cpu time |
| 10:11.14 | quickdev | Ainulindale, could you implement two functions of ousaged? RequestResource and ReleaseResource? Would be great :) |
| 10:11.21 | quickdev | Ainulindale, no problem |
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| 10:13.11 | quickdev | Ainulindale, I try to implement those two functions and inform you this afternoon if it was a success |
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| 10:15.21 | lindi- | AJuOnLiNE: how about just using /away? ;) |
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| 10:36.21 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07framework * r09ac291c8885 10/framework/patterns/tasklet.py: tasklet: Cleaned code a little |
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| 14:14.30 | jitu3485 | what is Debian image on openmoko |
| 14:14.39 | jitu3485 | i know about ASU |
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| 14:16.23 | slaxxin | wassa iceman |
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| 14:18.29 | lindi- | jitu3485: debian image? |
| 14:19.10 | jitu3485 | i mean debian arm package on freerunner |
| 14:19.54 | [df] | I don't believe there's an image you can flash, but you can install it to SD from another distro |
| 14:20.25 | [df] | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner |
| 14:20.31 | slaxxin | very weird the noise that my speakers make as the freerunner is drasticly reduced when i pick the device up off the table while holding the same proximity to the speakers |
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| 14:21.31 | slaxxin | could it be that the accelerometers are some how tied to this problemm in that they are idle? |
| 14:21.57 | slaxxin | nope |
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| 14:22.53 | pthorin | could probably be something to do with the fact that the table reflects the sound of the speakers |
| 14:23.03 | slaxxin | tea |
| 14:23.08 | slaxxin | yea |
| 14:24.21 | slaxxin | seems to continually pole the phone company |
| 14:24.41 | arquebus | does anyone know if its possible to install an open mobile linux OS on the Nokia N810? |
| 14:24.52 | slaxxin | may be something different though |
| 14:25.17 | slaxxin | i guess google told u nothing? |
| 14:25.23 | pthorin | slaxxin: oh, I think I misunderstood your question, ignore my previous comment |
| 14:25.45 | slaxxin | well no |
| 14:26.40 | slaxxin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.19 | pthorin | slaxxin: I thought you meant the sound from the freerunner speakers, not the interference the freerunner causes in other speakers |
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| 14:28.39 | slaxxin | whats really weird is if i hold the freerunner up ,,,when the sounds starts it is audible but if it is laying down an it starts making the noise an i pick it up the sounds almost goes away |
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| 14:29.53 | slaxxin | its different every time |
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| 14:30.16 | slaxxin | has to be eating my battery though |
| 14:31.06 | slaxxin | ok ic |
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| 14:49.33 | torpor | w00t! openpandora here i come! |
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| 15:51.18 | MnemonicPunk | Anyone want Openmoko images for the HTC Magician? xD (besides me) |
| 15:51.41 | flavior | show us |
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| 15:52.21 | MnemonicPunk | http://mnemonic.kilu.de/images/magician/ |
| 15:53.29 | MnemonicPunk | (Last one, the fso .tar version, is still uploading, rest is done.) |
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| 16:19.59 | Dave | It's quiet... too quiet... |
| 16:20.39 | Tm_T | Dave: calm before storm, Qtopia^H^H Qt-extended 4.4 released |
| 16:21.12 | Dave | eh? |
| 16:21.29 | Tm_T | http://trolltech.com/about/news/qt-extended-4.4-released |
| 16:21.34 | Dave | wtf? |
| 16:21.43 | MnemonicPunk | Is there any difference between Qtopia and qt-extended? |
| 16:21.51 | Tm_T | MnemonicPunk: new name |
| 16:22.05 | Tm_T | MnemonicPunk: aand new feature-update release |
| 16:22.07 | MnemonicPunk | Or is it just "last release was epic fail, let marketing come up with a new name"? |
| 16:22.14 | Tm_T | nah |
| 16:22.14 | Dave | :D |
| 16:22.20 | Dave | Sounds about right |
| 16:22.24 | Tm_T | prolly the Nokia-transition |
| 16:22.46 | max_posedon | "...renamed and launched as Qt Extended 4.4." |
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| 16:23.36 | Dave | haw |
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| 16:26.46 | soundar1 | configuration for WEP encryption.. |
| 16:27.32 | soundar1 | anybody know how to connect WEP enabled wireles AP? |
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| 16:28.57 | Dave | soundar1, iwconfig? |
| 16:29.54 | CIA-22 | freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * rbc9567781f3d 10/fsod/src/subsystems/Device/display/Makefile.am: Fix makefile |
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| 16:38.30 | TAsn | Dave, that was TOP SECRET! The non secret solutions are in the wiki. |
| 16:38.30 | TAsn | ;] |
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| 16:40.13 | Dave | :P |
| 16:41.14 | retracile | Does the FR charge while it is suspended? |
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| 16:42.23 | wurp2|working | retracile: Doesn't it wake if you plug it in? |
| 16:42.49 | Weiss | retracile: yes, you can set it charging then put it to sleep |
| 16:42.56 | mwester | Yes, it charges while suspended, but I don't think that it charges at the full rate IIRC. |
| 16:43.00 | wurp2|working | I only have a gta01, but if it's really suspended correctly, I think it always wakes (& stays awake) when plugged in |
| 16:43.17 | mwester | Yes, it wakes on insertion of the usb |
| 16:43.21 | retracile | wurp2|working: didn't seem to... |
| 16:43.23 | wurp2|working | Of course, that may just be the images I'm using |
| 16:43.30 | retracile | is using debian |
| 16:43.37 | wurp2|working | If you plugged it in and it didn't wake, you may... oh, nm :-) |
| 16:43.48 | mwester | wonders why people don't say when they use a non-standard distro... |
| 16:43.48 | Dave | :D |
| 16:43.50 | wurp2|working | I have no idea how apm is set up for debian |
| 16:44.06 | retracile | mwester: what's the standard distro? |
| 16:44.09 | retracile | :) |
| 16:44.22 | mwester | If you want standard and broken, it's 2008.9 |
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| 16:44.30 | mwester | If you want standard and working, it's Qtopia |
| 16:44.35 | mwester | Or FSO |
| 16:44.36 | Dave | haw |
| 16:44.38 | mwester | :) |
| 16:44.41 | Dave | FSO original recipe |
| 16:44.46 | Dave | mmm... it's the best! ;) |
| 16:45.07 | retracile | I understood the FSO software was what was on debian... |
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| 16:45.42 | Dave | sense you make not |
| 16:45.43 | mwester | Ok, so I should be more clear in that I refer to the FSO image, not just the FSO components :) |
| 16:46.00 | retracile | heh. |
| 16:46.01 | Dave | bah |
| 16:46.42 | retracile | At one time, if the battery was dead, you had to jump-start it. I thought that was fixed 1.5 months ago... or is there still an issue with that? |
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| 16:46.54 | mwester | Yes. |
| 16:46.57 | retracile | (And I understood it was a bootloader change, not in the distro) |
| 16:47.02 | mwester | Yes. |
| 16:47.04 | mwester | But also kernel |
| 16:47.27 | mwester | But all that work only made it "mostly" better; there are still cases where you need to jump-start it. |
| 16:47.45 | Dave | heh |
| 16:47.49 | retracile | Bother. Ok, what are those cases? (there a wiki page?) |
| 16:47.50 | Dave | Get the jumper cables! |
| 16:47.56 | mwester | And it's still easy to get into that case, because nobody seems to interested in writing the code to handle "battery low" to avoid this. |
| 16:48.02 | Dave | takes a freerunner out to his car |
| 16:48.04 | mwester | looks at himself, too |
| 16:48.13 | retracile | heh. understood. |
| 16:48.20 | Dave | Mwester, and it seems so simple, too! |
| 16:48.21 | mwester | Dave: somebody tried that; 12V does not help. |
| 16:48.26 | Dave | What the fuck is wrong with people :D |
| 16:48.34 | Dave | Mwester, IT NEEDS MORE VOLTS! |
| 16:48.43 | Dave | 2GHz here I come! :D |
| 16:48.56 | mwester | "But Cap'n she's gonna blow!" |
| 16:48.56 | Dave | (for probably a fraction of a second...) |
| 16:49.00 | Dave | ;p |
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| 16:49.05 | Dave | or melt, in this case. |
| 16:49.08 | Dave | and catch on fire |
| 16:49.29 | retracile | Dave: be sure to dunk it in motor oil first. ;) |
| 16:49.30 | mwester | "110% on the reactor is possible, but not recommended, Captain" |
| 16:49.37 | Dave | :D |
| 16:49.41 | Dave | high-fives mwester |
| 16:49.46 | Weiss | when the space shuttle takes off, it throttles up to 106% thrust |
| 16:49.58 | Dave | Sweet |
| 16:50.03 | mwester | That's like "11" on the volume dial, though. |
| 16:50.07 | Dave | Do they go forward in time? |
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| 16:50.29 | Dave | Needs more flux capacitors. |
| 16:51.45 | Weiss | my bad, 104.5% apparently |
| 16:52.01 | Dave | ooh la la |
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| 17:43.17 | Dave | Mwester |
| 17:44.45 | Dave | Mwester, something else odd I noticed, after having the phone on for two days or more, it becomes permanently deregistered sometimes, and nothing you do will reregister it (if you check the modem status, it shows the network info), but if you attempt to contact the device via gsm, it fails. |
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| 17:47.04 | dfoley | Is this where I can discuss a problem opkg with OE ? |
| 17:47.26 | dfoley | or #oe ? |
| 17:48.22 | toggles_w | dfoley: ttf-liberation_0.2. ? |
| 17:48.57 | dfoley | toggles_w: no, glibc detected *** opkg-cl: free(): invalid next size (normal):.... |
| 17:49.15 | toggles_w | dfoley: sorry.. |
| 17:49.49 | Dave | :P |
| 17:50.03 | dfoley | toggles_w: happens in svn:4640 and svn:4684 |
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| 17:50.27 | toggles_w | dfoley: i got past that, issue is with ttf |
| 17:50.31 | toggles_w | atleast for me |
| 17:51.22 | dfoley | pretty sure this is a new bug. only seems to happen when I try to put a package with -dev in an image |
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| 17:52.50 | dfoley | I could send a patch to reproduce in for the latest openembedded.org.dev |
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| 18:02.53 | toggles_w | ls |
| 18:03.18 | Tm_T | toggles_w: als! |
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| 18:26.59 | Dave | Mwester - ZOMG |
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| 18:27.12 | Dave | It stops reading from the SIM altogether, periodically! |
| 18:27.15 | Dave | :o |
| 18:27.24 | mwester | What image? |
| 18:27.37 | Dave | 2007 :p |
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| 18:28.01 | mwester | Oh. yeah, gsmd on 2007 has never been completely stable. |
| 18:28.15 | Dave | I noticed this because, the sms are apparently stored on the SIM |
| 18:28.33 | Dave | and when I was changing Sms read directories and it "deregistered" it held up |
| 18:28.50 | Dave | hung for five seconds or so, then they displayed, and this was in addition to the usual lag. |
| 18:29.02 | Dave | maybe this was one of the reasons for such a large push for ogsmd :p |
| 18:29.14 | Dave | and o<everything>d |
| 18:29.15 | Dave | :p |
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| 18:29.31 | sicu | Dave: are you sure the sms are stored on sim for 2007.2? cause i cant seem to find them there...? |
| 18:29.40 | Dave | in the SIM? |
| 18:29.51 | Dave | dude they're definitely NOT on the phone |
| 18:29.56 | Dave | at least on mine |
| 18:30.17 | Dave | I know because I got so fucking tired of looking I just ran an exhaustive find, parsing every goddamn file on the phone looking for one of my messages. |
| 18:30.34 | Dave | It's terrible though because if you gsm -l or whatever, it still segfaults :P |
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| 18:30.40 | Dave | What an awesome program, phone, thing. |
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| 18:33.16 | mwester__ | is now enjoying the benefit of paying ISPs for internet connections each month. |
| 18:33.25 | Dave | :) |
| 18:33.29 | mwester__ | er, paying two ISPs |
| 18:33.31 | mwester__ | I mean. |
| 18:33.53 | mwester__ | Of course, the backup connection is only half the speed... |
| 18:34.10 | Dave | assrape? |
| 18:34.49 | mwester__ | I figure I chose where to live, I shouldn't complain about poor cell phone coverage or poor internet access. |
| 18:35.07 | Dave | :p |
| 18:35.08 | Dave | true |
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| 18:41.33 | mwester__ | Gaah! And now I see something else that reviewers of this firewall complained of; it doesn't switch back to the primary WAN connection when it comes back. So I'm stuck on the backup link until I physically get to the LAN. |
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| 18:44.33 | baba_melone | Hi, I have Om2008.9 installed, totally updated. Now I just want to compile simple C programs for my Neo. So I dowlnoaded the toolchain, but then noticed that compiling inst possible with it. Even glibc isnt installled to it |
| 18:44.48 | baba_melone | nor libstdc++ |
| 18:44.57 | baba_melone | so I tried opkg install g++ on my neo |
| 18:45.08 | baba_melone | but it doesnt seem to install anything |
| 18:45.27 | baba_melone | opkg install gcc doesnt make gcc available either |
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| 18:46.05 | baba_melone | Do I need to isntall glibc to the toolchain to compile the most simple programs? I mean compiling glibc Is quite a hard job |
| 18:47.58 | edistar | baba_melone: yes.. glibc is quite essential |
| 18:48.12 | peter-b | <baba_melone> depends on how simple your programs are :-) |
| 18:48.34 | baba_melone | very simple |
| 18:48.37 | baba_melone | read a file |
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| 18:48.39 | baba_melone | ^^ |
| 18:48.49 | baba_melone | but I have to do it manually |
| 18:48.57 | peter-b | then you will need glibc |
| 18:49.03 | baba_melone | why doesnt the binary toolchain contain glibc |
| 18:49.10 | thrashold | baba_melone: You could, but your programs won't be usable for anything. And they might not compile, unless you are building a kernel or something |
| 18:49.20 | peter-b | without you dont hav system calls or any other library stuff |
| 18:49.32 | thrashold | baba_melone: And have implemented the memcpy and mem* functions |
| 18:49.37 | baba_melone | yeah i know |
| 18:50.07 | baba_melone | but I just dont see why the binary toolchain doesnt contain glibc |
| 18:50.18 | baba_melone | What glib version do I need |
| 18:50.21 | peter-b | why dont you try to build the toolchain with the makefile ? |
| 18:50.21 | baba_melone | ls |
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| 18:50.53 | peter-b | never tried a binary toolchain |
| 18:51.08 | baba_melone | why would i want to |
| 18:51.15 | baba_melone | what glibc version do I need now |
| 18:51.45 | lindi- | baba_melone: alternative you can install debian to chroot and have 'apt-get install build-essential' work :) |
| 18:51.52 | lindi- | s/ve/vely/ |
| 18:52.08 | edistar | apt isn't bad at all |
| 18:52.48 | baba_melone | yeah, thx, but this doest help me now |
| 18:53.07 | baba_melone | I only have the 512 mb sd card till now |
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| 18:53.46 | baba_melone | I just want to compile really small progs, just play a bit around with the accelerometers |
| 18:54.33 | baba_melone | hm |
| 18:54.55 | baba_melone | when trying to compile glibc I get this while 'om-confing' : configure.in:843: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_PROG_VER |
| 18:55.16 | peter-b | in fso-unstable there is glibc 2.6.1 |
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| 18:56.02 | baba_melone | 2.6.1? kind of...retro |
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| 18:57.12 | peter-b | ffell free to try 2.7 :-) |
| 18:57.14 | stinkytoe | does anyone know why i keep getting sms messages from number 129? i have a freerunner with tmobile. it happens in om2008.8, fso and qtopia |
| 18:58.41 | balrog-kun | 129 is the address type for national numbers iirc |
| 18:59.38 | _Bill_ | hmh.. fdom has lately started to lag horribly |
| 18:59.59 | _Bill_ | logger and qpe are taking up all the CPU... |
| 19:00.08 | _Bill_ | load is over 3 at all times. |
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| 19:06.01 | jrei | hi is there a way to sync contacts etc from the freerunner with evolution or kpim? |
| 19:07.29 | SpeedEvil | Kids today. |
| 19:07.40 | SpeedEvil | Arn't content with rsync. |
| 19:08.12 | SpeedEvil | As I understand it no, but I've not been keeping up with that area. |
| 19:08.24 | jrei | k |
| 19:08.34 | _Bill_ | SpeedEvil: rsync doesn't really cut it :) |
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| 19:08.45 | _Bill_ | altho i'd be thrilled, if it would |
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| 19:10.38 | faltantornillos | hi there. I keep getting "unkown error" when trying to get my gmail email using the messages app. what can I do? is there any other email client available? pls |
| 19:10.46 | SpeedEvil | rsync over GPRS! It's the way of the future! |
| 19:10.48 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 19:11.00 | jrei | oh boy |
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| 19:11.56 | SpeedEvil | fan: I'd try tcpdump on the gateway, to see what it's doing. |
| 19:11.59 | jrei | i am affraid that will never address the iPhone boys and girls. ;) |
| 19:12.49 | SpeedEvil | I know! |
| 19:12.54 | SpeedEvil | Call it iRsync. |
| 19:12.55 | _Bill_ | SpeedEvil: what? rsync? we should reanimate usenet before all is lost. I'm ready to set up a node on my FR :P |
| 19:13.22 | _Bill_ | uucp for teh win! |
| 19:13.42 | _Bill_ | feels old |
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| 19:17.55 | mwester__ | *is* old |
| 19:18.15 | Tm_T | kids... |
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| 19:23.09 | Dave | :p |
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| 19:24.20 | bernt | going back to fidonet? |
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| 19:58.10 | peter-b | anyone knows why ttf-liberation fails to build with bitbake in fso-unstable ? |
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| 20:04.06 | jrei | anyone arrived who knows a way to sync contacts and calendars between openmoko and something else |
| 20:06.26 | peter-b | iirc the 2008x qtopia addressbook can import vcards |
| 20:06.46 | jrei | i know |
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| 20:07.08 | jrei | that is not syncing ;) |
| 20:07.38 | peter-b | i know |
| 20:07.51 | peter-b | but im only using sim contacts atm |
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| 20:09.34 | uhsf | is vcard a proprietary format ? |
| 20:09.45 | jrei | no |
| 20:10.02 | jrei | its a standard |
| 20:10.02 | uhsf | is it the very best format for contacts ? |
| 20:10.14 | bernt | perhaps you could try multisync |
| 20:11.40 | uhsf | i read somewhere that cardDAV is going to replace vcard is that correct? |
| 20:12.05 | jrei | shoult it work with syncml? |
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| 20:12.46 | uhsf | is it better to use one vcard file for each contact or all contacts in the same vcard file? |
| 20:14.49 | jrei | there is an example on openmoko.org that you can import all contacts in one bundled vcard |
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| 20:49.26 | dfoley | peter-b: I see ttf-liberation fails and I can see why |
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| 21:17.51 | Weiss | made a cunning handy stylus by fixing a guitar plectrum to the end of his pouch string, having first removed the hook thing (which had broken anyway) |
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| 21:33.11 | yabo | Hello |
| 21:33.21 | yabo | Python on qtopia anyone? |
| 21:33.27 | yabo | ive managed to install the python core |
| 21:33.48 | yabo | but i also want the most common modules (ie the ones that come in the python.org-package) |
| 21:34.04 | yabo | i reckon i could probably just copy the .py-modules to the lib-folder |
| 21:34.26 | yabo | but how would that work with the extended modules? (c-wrappers) |
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| 21:38.50 | CM | yabo: You might have more luck asking in #openmoko-cdevel |
| 21:39.16 | CM | Or earlier, it's almost midnight here in Europe, or later to catch the .tw guys |
| 21:39.34 | CM | Mesh-moko: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9852477088.html |
| 21:41.25 | yabo | alright, thank you |
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| 23:58.01 | uzytkownik | Hello. I downloaded celtune image (well - I've tried 2) + daily kernel. However the usb0 is not created. How to fix it? |
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