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| 00:10.21 | Ark1 | big file |
| 00:10.40 | rooly|away | so...thi is rather annnoying at best |
| 00:12.21 | slaxxin | so is fat the format for the sdcard if im going to store music an orher stuff? |
| 00:13.30 | slaxxin | still on the bluetooth headset? |
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| 00:13.37 | Dave | heh |
| 00:13.48 | slaxxin | did u get a linux compatible device? |
| 00:14.08 | slaxxin | wintooth |
| 00:15.40 | slaxxin | whats the maximum size file u can use as a ringtone? |
| 00:16.12 | slaxxin | all kinda stupid questions |
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| 00:32.12 | Daenyth | I get `dfu_upload error -62' when I try to back up my rootfs with dfu-util |
| 00:32.25 | Daenyth | New phone, just got it yesterday. Pretty much default everything |
| 00:32.34 | alphabeat | what computer are you on Daenyth? |
| 00:32.45 | Daenyth | archlinux i686 |
| 00:33.02 | alphabeat | can you upload stuff? |
| 00:33.11 | Daenyth | I uploaded the kernel |
| 00:33.22 | Daenyth | try again? |
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| 00:33.39 | Daenyth | it took 20-30+ minutes for it to error out |
| 00:34.46 | alphabeat | hmm. dfu-util is broken on big-endian systems. i wonder if that's it... |
| 00:35.04 | Daenyth | I thought x86 was little-endian |
| 00:36.21 | mmontour | dfu-util -U is broken. Check Trac for details (#676 and some other, more recent bug) |
| 00:36.27 | Daenyth | hrm |
| 00:36.37 | Daenyth | if -U is broken then how did I get the kernel uploaded 0.o |
| 00:37.06 | mmontour | broken = data corruption, even if it reports succes |
| 00:37.11 | Daenyth | oof |
| 00:37.16 | Daenyth | so I can't back up then |
| 00:37.16 | Daenyth | hrm |
| 00:37.26 | Daenyth | but I can get images of the default 2007.2? |
| 00:37.32 | Daenyth | if I need to restore? |
| 00:37.46 | mmontour | should still be on downloads.openmoko.org |
| 00:37.53 | Daenyth | alright |
| 00:38.10 | Daenyth | is there any particular build I should try? |
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| 00:39.33 | mmontour | not really - just pick one (or try a few of them) |
| 00:39.37 | Daenyth | mmk |
| 00:41.48 | torindel | Daenyth: if you want to backup either dd your flash to file on sd and send it back afterward (full flash image) to pc or use tar + netcat on moko and netcat on pc (tar.bz2/tar.gz file) |
| 00:42.13 | Daenyth | hrm |
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| 00:46.35 | Daenyth | torindel: how can I do that while it's booted though? dd I mean |
| 00:46.39 | Daenyth | I guess I could just tar / |
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| 00:47.47 | torindel | dd if=/dev/mtdblk4 of=/media/card/system.bin (or something like that) |
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| 00:48.27 | torindel | you can use tar + nc too |
| 00:49.10 | torindel | or dd + nc |
| 00:49.38 | torindel | in general netcat is preffered |
| 00:49.58 | torindel | as it speeds things up since you wont have to write to sd |
| 00:50.03 | Daenyth | right |
| 00:50.21 | Daenyth | er, nc -L -p > backup.img? |
| 00:50.33 | Daenyth | assuming dd | nc |
| 00:50.36 | Daenyth | -p port^ |
| 00:51.20 | torindel | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.43 | torindel | dd if=blabla | nc -w 3 othermachine 1234 on other |
| 00:52.00 | torindel | (of=- might be required for dd, i dunno) |
| 00:52.20 | Daenyth | mmk |
| 00:52.51 | Ark1 | why are FSO and ASU not merged? |
| 00:59.26 | Ark1 | and which one has a future? |
| 00:59.57 | torindel | FSO if you mean backend |
| 01:02.40 | Ark1 | why arent they put together? |
| 01:03.58 | torindel | why arent you helping putting them together yet? |
| 01:04.15 | Ark1 | >.< |
| 01:04.47 | Ark1 | my coding skills are all in java nad even those leave a ton to be desired |
| 01:05.42 | torindel | well you can always learn something new ;] |
| 01:07.10 | Ark1 | but seriously, wouldnt it save a lot of time and effort to consolidate the two projects into one instead of just killing ASU |
| 01:09.42 | torindel | seriously there was plan to switch asu to use fso stuff |
| 01:10.04 | Ark1 | was? |
| 01:10.17 | torindel | is |
| 01:10.37 | Issac-S | is? |
| 01:10.40 | Issac-S | Where? |
| 01:10.51 | Issac-S | unlike the SHR, I don |
| 01:11.30 | Issac-S | unlike the SHR, I don't see much in the way of organization. |
| 01:11.56 | Issac-S | Unless there has been a project page for ASU that I didn't know of. |
| 01:12.09 | Daenyth | When I try to start mofi it crashes and says that it can't load the cairo module, but I have python-pycairo installed |
| 01:14.28 | Daenyth | How can I get it working? |
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| 01:25.04 | slaxxin | haaa my desktop is now missing |
| 01:25.36 | slaxxin | ima going to put well i dont know |
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| 01:43.40 | slaxxin | i need a new image |
| 01:43.44 | Dave | Don't we all. |
| 01:43.54 | slaxxin | whats the suggestion |
| 01:44.14 | slaxxin | im putting rasters on now |
| 01:44.33 | Dave | heh |
| 01:44.34 | slaxxin | dave i have 2008.8? |
| 01:44.36 | Dave | good luck |
| 01:44.42 | Dave | I don't know what you have. |
| 01:44.48 | Dave | but 2008.8 sucks |
| 01:44.51 | Dave | (still) :P |
| 01:45.01 | slaxxin | wat u have/ |
| 01:45.18 | slaxxin | qtopia? |
| 01:45.51 | slaxxin | dave what are u running on |
| 01:46.29 | slaxxin | im thinking something will happen soon |
| 01:47.11 | slaxxin | im thinking a qtopia daily maybe |
| 01:48.38 | slaxxin | yea i have had 2008.8 for a while now an it does suck |
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| 01:51.06 | Dave | yeah yeah |
| 01:51.09 | Dave | it will get better |
| 01:51.18 | Dave | fso is supposedly going to have a milestone 3 soon |
| 01:51.20 | Dave | *shrugs* |
| 01:51.33 | Dave | qtopia should be updating soon and have a browser, whenever that day comes |
| 01:51.42 | Dave | My primary freerunner runs 2007.2 |
| 01:51.57 | Dave | I'm using the latest openmoko buildhost image for that |
| 01:52.03 | Dave | It works well, as far as I'm concerned. |
| 01:52.14 | Dave | and I do prefer it over ASU, and it's fugly friends, still. |
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| 01:59.18 | Daenyth | I'm looking for an image also |
| 01:59.36 | Daenyth | I have been reading the wiki but when I go to the url with the image files, there's so many and i don't know which one to take |
| 01:59.42 | Daenyth | any advice? |
| 02:00.16 | johngay | How many FreeRunners do you have, Dave? |
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| 02:05.40 | johngay | beats Dave up and takes his extra FreeRunners. |
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| 02:09.25 | lloyd_fedora | Daenyth: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download |
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| 02:14.09 | Daenyth | thanks.. |
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| 02:14.31 | Daenyth | I'm trying to install the qtopia image to my sd card and I'm horribly confused |
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| 02:15.00 | Daenyth | I'm stuck at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia#Unpacking_the_Qtopia_Root_Filesystem_Image |
| 02:15.12 | Daenyth | specifically, mounting the jffs2 part |
| 02:16.19 | Daenyth | do I run that on my desktop? The freerunner seems to have a 2.6.24 kernel, and that says the instructions are for .25 |
| 02:18.14 | Daenyth | maybe I'll skip it |
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| 02:21.41 | alphabeat | Daenyth: run it on your desktop |
| 02:21.54 | alphabeat | think of it as an iso image of a cd you wish to mount on your computer to get to the files |
| 02:23.22 | Daenyth | eh, already removed the files :< |
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| 02:27.44 | slaxxin | should gsm,wifi,bluetooth be shut down during opkg upgrade? |
| 02:30.26 | Dave | It doesn't matter. |
| 02:30.31 | slaxxin | http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/ |
| 02:30.41 | Dave | woo, go xora |
| 02:30.45 | Dave | heh |
| 02:30.47 | slaxxin | i thought rasters stuff was 2007.2 |
| 02:32.25 | Dave | bah, I broke google again |
| 02:32.26 | Dave | :x |
| 02:32.39 | Dave | raster's stuff is illume in fso or asu or something |
| 02:32.46 | slaxxin | ok |
| 02:32.51 | Dave | I'm pretty sure it's FSO2 |
| 02:33.00 | slaxxin | ok |
| 02:33.07 | slaxxin | i try it |
| 02:35.29 | slaxxin | well it might be borked now |
| 02:35.39 | Dave | heh |
| 02:35.41 | Dave | Whatever |
| 02:35.49 | Dave | All I can say is I favor 2007.2 |
| 02:36.15 | slaxxin | some kind of e17 error mess ge |
| 02:37.34 | Dave | o_O |
| 02:39.08 | slaxxin | pong |
| 02:42.14 | Dave | dong |
| 02:42.19 | rooly|away | whats going on again? |
| 02:42.45 | rooly|away | likes 2007.2 also |
| 02:42.49 | rooly|away | more spartan |
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| 02:43.41 | rooly|away | i don't USE 2007.2 however |
| 02:45.13 | Daenyth | I just did an opkg upgrade and now the icons for bluetooth, wifi, battery, etc are all gone |
| 02:45.27 | Daenyth | oh wait, kernel update, should probably reboot.. |
| 02:47.08 | Dave | :) |
| 02:47.25 | Dave | daenyth, yeah you should |
| 02:47.37 | Dave | Daenyth, and in the future you just have to restart X for the icons to return :) |
| 02:47.43 | Daenyth | ah, thanks |
| 02:47.47 | Daenyth | sigh |
| 02:47.50 | Daenyth | wish it had pacman.. |
| 02:47.55 | Dave | though if the kernel actually upgrades, yeah you probably would want to reboot if you wanted to use it :) |
| 02:47.59 | Dave | oh man |
| 02:48.01 | Dave | :D |
| 02:48.03 | Dave | pacman using accelerometers! |
| 02:48.04 | Dave | :D |
| 02:48.08 | alphabeat | haha |
| 02:48.15 | rooly|away | has found a rather simple method to make sure new program icons show up first |
| 02:48.16 | Dave | \o/ |
| 02:48.16 | Daenyth | noo |
| 02:48.21 | Daenyth | pacman the package manager |
| 02:48.23 | Daenyth | from archlinux :P |
| 02:48.26 | Dave | OH |
| 02:48.27 | Dave | bah! |
| 02:48.41 | Dave | :P |
| 02:48.44 | alphabeat | well, both would be good :) |
| 02:49.08 | Dave | :) |
| 02:49.11 | Dave | True enough :D |
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| 02:50.22 | Dave | SKITTLES |
| 02:50.25 | Daenyth | damnit |
| 02:50.29 | Daenyth | I still can't start mofi |
| 02:50.38 | Daenyth | can't import the cairo module |
| 02:50.43 | Daenyth | I have python-pycairo installed... |
| 02:51.03 | Daenyth | anyone? |
| 02:51.33 | Daenyth | bah, and I still can't connect to my wep network anyway |
| 02:51.37 | Dave | aww |
| 02:52.57 | rooly | yay |
| 02:53.00 | rooly | school starts tomorrow |
| 02:53.03 | rooly | at 9 am |
| 02:53.05 | rooly | w00t |
| 02:54.04 | CVirus | is stuck with his summer makeup exams |
| 02:54.14 | ShellEvil | CVirus: eyeliner? |
| 02:54.32 | CVirus | lol |
| 02:56.24 | Daenyth | is there anything special I have to do to get gps working? using the test software I get all fails for my fixes |
| 02:56.44 | ShellEvil | Daenyth: freerunner? And have you put a recentish kernel on it? |
| 02:56.50 | rooly | Daenyth, do this: "cat /etc/default/gpsd" |
| 02:56.52 | Daenyth | ShellEvil: I did opkg upgrade |
| 02:57.07 | Daenyth | GPS_DEV="/dev/ttySAC1" |
| 02:57.10 | rooly | kk |
| 02:57.16 | rooly | well... |
| 02:57.31 | rooly | does it recognize your gps exists but just takes forever to get a lock |
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| 02:57.37 | rooly | or does it not even recognize it |
| 02:57.41 | Daenyth | I haven't gotten a lock yet |
| 02:58.05 | Daenyth | ShellEvil: apart from the opkg thing, I haven't flashed it or anything... so I don't know |
| 02:58.11 | Daenyth | I'm not yet familiar with the internals |
| 02:58.45 | ShellEvil | Daenyth: you need a recent kernel - a couple of weeks or so - for the GPS SD interference reduction patches |
| 02:58.50 | Daenyth | hrm |
| 02:58.53 | Daenyth | so I need to flash it? |
| 02:59.00 | rooly | yeah |
| 02:59.04 | Daenyth | ok |
| 02:59.14 | rooly | dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage.bin |
| 02:59.24 | Daenyth | yeah, just gotta figure out which image to download |
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| 03:00.39 | Daenyth | I'm at http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/ but I have no clue what to get |
| 03:00.57 | rooly | Daenyth, uImage.*****.bin |
| 03:01.43 | Daenyth | rootfs? |
| 03:01.46 | Daenyth | do I need to? |
| 03:02.19 | rooly | not if you don't really need to |
| 03:02.41 | Daenyth | ok.. |
| 03:05.02 | Daenyth | booting |
| 03:07.14 | Daenyth | hopefully this will fix my wireless issues too |
| 03:08.42 | Daenyth | nothing at all looks changed |
| 03:08.50 | slaxxin | mee too |
| 03:09.46 | slaxxin | why cant a terminal be included in an image jeez\ |
| 03:10.01 | rooly | lol |
| 03:10.29 | Daenyth | ohhhh |
| 03:10.33 | Daenyth | I can connect to wifi now |
| 03:10.40 | CVirus | cool :-) |
| 03:11.36 | slaxxin | which image did u do? |
| 03:11.42 | Daenyth | udhcpc eth0 doesn't seem to want to work |
| 03:11.51 | Daenyth | slaxxin: the only one from that link I posted above |
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| 03:12.05 | Daenyth | sends a bunch of dhcp discover packets but no response... |
| 03:12.21 | slaxxin | latest.bin/ |
| 03:13.41 | slaxxin | ok cvirus tell us watodo |
| 03:14.01 | CVirus | doesn't even own a FreeRunner |
| 03:14.05 | Daenyth | hrm |
| 03:14.11 | slaxxin | dangit man |
| 03:14.15 | Daenyth | it doesn't give me an error anymore when I try to set the key |
| 03:14.19 | Daenyth | but neither does it seem to work.. |
| 03:14.29 | eliasp | what's the reason for the slowness of the current 200808 GUI? bandwith of the graphics bus? usage of X11? usage of not-yet optimized apps? |
| 03:14.54 | slaxxin | aalll of the above? |
| 03:15.33 | eliasp | hehe, ok... but is any of them the real bottleneck where a lot of performance improvements could be done? |
| 03:15.44 | Daenyth | oh shit |
| 03:15.47 | Daenyth | usb0 is gone |
| 03:15.50 | Daenyth | wth? |
| 03:16.01 | Daenyth | lemme try replugging... |
| 03:17.39 | Daenyth | did the usb0 interface get renamed? |
| 03:17.44 | Daenyth | this is bad, I can't connect to wifi |
| 03:17.50 | Daenyth | and now I can't connect over usb either |
| 03:17.54 | eliasp | it was still usb0 on 20080820 |
| 03:18.14 | eliasp | Daenyth: but probably it's just your desktop/laptop which has lost it's usb0 interface... |
| 03:18.17 | rooly | Daenyth, try booting with the usb out |
| 03:18.21 | eliasp | happened to me sometimes on unplugging |
| 03:18.27 | rooly | and then plugging it in after |
| 03:18.34 | Daenyth | eliasp: that makes no sense, I'm running ifconfig on the FR |
| 03:18.39 | eliasp | ah, ok |
| 03:18.52 | Daenyth | rooly: ok.. |
| 03:18.53 | eliasp | then try what rooly suggests... worked here too |
| 03:19.13 | rooly | it should only have to happen once if it works at all |
| 03:19.21 | Daenyth | ok.. |
| 03:20.16 | rooly | jesus |
| 03:20.24 | rooly | who throws a party the night before school starts |
| 03:20.37 | Daenyth | people who aren't in school anymore? :p |
| 03:20.48 | eliasp | ;-) |
| 03:21.12 | rooly | i dunno...these are mostly school appartments |
| 03:21.38 | rooly | of course...at these prices, i guess most of these people are still on their parents' income |
| 03:22.12 | Daenyth | it's gone |
| 03:22.13 | Daenyth | :/ |
| 03:22.17 | rooly | what is |
| 03:22.17 | Daenyth | even after a reboot like you said |
| 03:22.20 | Daenyth | usb0 |
| 03:22.23 | Daenyth | hrm |
| 03:22.35 | eliasp | Daenyth: check lsmod, whether it lists usbnet |
| 03:23.04 | Daenyth | eliasp: aha! if I try to modprobe it, it doesn't exist |
| 03:23.36 | Daenyth | so uh |
| 03:23.39 | Daenyth | now what :| |
| 03:23.56 | eliasp | Daenyth: WLAN doesn't work too? |
| 03:24.10 | Daenyth | eliasp: can't get it to connect |
| 03:24.10 | eliasp | so no change getting the usbnet module package on your FR? |
| 03:24.15 | Daenyth | hmm |
| 03:24.20 | Daenyth | I can try again |
| 03:24.23 | rooly | you err...may want to flash your rootfs then |
| 03:24.40 | eliasp | uhm, stop... |
| 03:24.42 | eliasp | sorry... |
| 03:24.45 | eliasp | there is not usbnet module |
| 03:24.50 | eliasp | seems to be builtin |
| 03:26.06 | Daenyth | ok |
| 03:26.19 | Daenyth | I can iwconfig eth0 essid mynet; iwconfig eth0 key blahblah |
| 03:26.30 | Daenyth | udhcpc eth0 just keeps sending discover packets, no reply |
| 03:26.39 | eliasp | Daenyth: this will probably only work with WEP WLANs |
| 03:26.42 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03tick * r4605 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/ (opkg.c opkg_error.h opkg_install.c): |
| 03:26.42 | CIA-48 | openmoko: remove build error on gcc 3.4 |
| 03:26.42 | CIA-48 | openmoko: Thanks for jserv found and fix this. |
| 03:26.46 | Daenyth | eliasp: it is wep |
| 03:26.49 | eliasp | ok |
| 03:27.07 | eliasp | wow, there is still GCC 3.4 used for builds? |
| 03:27.48 | rooly | gcc 3.4 is probably like the 2.4 kernel in slackware |
| 03:28.01 | rooly | it's there because it's "stable" and "reliable" |
| 03:28.31 | Daenyth | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/openmoko-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk--20080824-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz <<-- is this the rootfs I want? |
| 03:29.00 | Daenyth | or the jffs2 |
| 03:29.07 | rooly | the jffs2 |
| 03:29.10 | Daenyth | the other yeah |
| 03:29.49 | rooly | sighs |
| 03:29.56 | rooly | why is everything written in python |
| 03:30.00 | Daenyth | yeah :/ |
| 03:30.27 | Daenyth | I'm gonna flash this then go to bed |
| 03:30.37 | torindel | rooly: because it sucks ;] |
| 03:30.43 | slaxxin | how about flashplayer on openmoko browser? |
| 03:31.07 | torindel | rooly: so you can fix bugs faster without recompiling, and you can do it with vi on moko |
| 03:31.10 | rooly | nah, they'd probably write it in python |
| 03:31.20 | rooly | i know, torindel |
| 03:31.31 | rooly | but it has the problem of being terribly slow |
| 03:32.50 | eliasp | slaxxin: i don't knwo whether there is a flash player for ARM available... AFAIK the flash-player bases on a lot of x86 assembler code |
| 03:33.19 | torindel | rooly: fso plans to rewrite parts in c, after stabilizing |
| 03:33.35 | eliasp | what kind of Arch does the iPhone use? IIRC there's now a flashplayer available for it.. if it's ARM too, it could probably be hacked up to be used on the FR too |
| 03:33.48 | rooly | eliasp, it's arm, iirc |
| 03:33.51 | torindel | eliasp: arm too |
| 03:33.54 | eliasp | slaxxin: another possibility... try Gnash or swfdec |
| 03:34.11 | raster | there is a flashplayer for the n800 |
| 03:34.20 | torindel | eliasp: and it wont be so easy since iphone uses newer arm |
| 03:34.24 | raster | thats a much easier bet if u want to go binary hacking |
| 03:34.28 | torindel | same with n800 |
| 03:34.28 | Daenyth | how does aircrack work? does the wlan support monitor mode? |
| 03:34.29 | eliasp | ah, it's ARM5, right? |
| 03:34.33 | Daenyth | injection? |
| 03:34.33 | raster | yes |
| 03:34.49 | torindel | eliasp: armv5 |
| 03:35.01 | torindel | and armv5 != arm5 |
| 03:35.02 | raster | in all reality |
| 03:35.11 | rooly | goddamit! |
| 03:35.17 | raster | anything u get workign with a binary flashplayer will last as longas that particular binary is around |
| 03:35.19 | rooly | i want me freakin gtk interface back |
| 03:35.21 | raster | and then break for a new release |
| 03:35.23 | raster | most likely |
| 03:35.25 | rooly | it's so much easier |
| 03:35.25 | torindel | eliasp: armv5 is arm9 |
| 03:35.29 | raster | it wil be a never-ending cat and mouse game |
| 03:35.36 | raster | if someone wants to sink their lives into it |
| 03:35.37 | raster | fine |
| 03:35.43 | raster | but its probably a fairly big waste |
| 03:36.17 | torindel | better play with gnash and stuff ;] |
| 03:37.13 | rooly | wtf... |
| 03:37.17 | rooly | sighs |
| 03:37.28 | rooly | i've lost my dfu connection somehow |
| 03:37.28 | Daenyth | sigh@usb1.1 |
| 03:37.34 | Daenyth | brings back memories... |
| 03:38.12 | rooly | woops |
| 03:38.13 | rooly | tee hee |
| 03:40.36 | rooly | i was plugged into the wrong miniusb cable |
| 03:41.03 | rooly | note to self, the ac adapter does not form a connection to the laptop... |
| 03:41.17 | CVirus | hahaha |
| 03:42.51 | torindel | rooly: well you could make charger laptop usb cable (external charger+laptop usb cable) as on wiki ;] |
| 03:43.25 | rooly | or howbout a double usb-cable thingy |
| 03:43.36 | rooly | that sucks up a whole amp |
| 03:43.53 | torindel | better get charger+cable |
| 03:44.19 | rooly | hell, i could convert it so that all 4 of my usb ports act as a charger |
| 03:44.25 | torindel | it will give you 1+ amp for sure and you wont be useing X usb ports |
| 03:44.26 | rooly | whew, that would be some POWER |
| 03:44.52 | torindel | rooly: your usb controller might not be up to it ;] |
| 03:45.17 | torindel | as its not power plant and it have limited power output ;] |
| 03:45.28 | rooly | i think this machine might have 2 usb controllers, since the two on the left have more output than the two on the right |
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| 03:47.24 | Daenyth | god the mailing lists are horrid here :< |
| 03:47.49 | Daenyth | mixed top, bottom, inline posts, people quoting 50-line mails to send a 1-2line reply |
| 03:48.00 | Daenyth | people don't know how to be polite on mls anymore :< |
| 03:49.01 | rooly | sighs |
| 03:49.08 | rooly | why is my uboot stuck to nor? |
| 03:49.21 | Daenyth | I like the boot screen |
| 03:49.23 | Daenyth | boots :p |
| 03:49.24 | mmontour | aux button stuck? |
| 03:49.29 | rooly | no |
| 03:49.36 | rooly | i can't get it to boot from nand |
| 03:49.41 | rooly | i mean uboot itself |
| 03:49.46 | rooly | i've flashed it a dozen times now |
| 03:50.15 | mmontour | aux button determines (in hardware) whether NAND or NOR u-boot is loaded when the device boots |
| 03:50.32 | rooly | oh does it |
| 03:50.49 | rooly | because, iirc, aux + pow loads up uboot |
| 03:51.12 | Daenyth | urk |
| 03:51.17 | Daenyth | multipad keyboard, ick |
| 03:51.59 | mmontour | u-boot is loaded whenever the device powers on. If you press only the power button, you use the NAND copy of u-boot and it will automatically execute the "bootcmd" environment variable without displaying a menu |
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| 03:52.34 | rooly | right |
| 03:52.40 | mmontour | If you hold power then aux you get NAND u-boot and it will display its menu. If you hold aux then power you get NOR (with a menu) |
| 03:52.49 | rooly | sometimes, the nand loads |
| 03:52.49 | Daenyth | mmontour: ahh interesting |
| 03:53.20 | rooly | that does make a difference |
| 03:53.21 | rooly | right |
| 03:53.23 | rooly | kk |
| 03:53.25 | rooly | now knows |
| 03:54.06 | Daenyth | still can't get my dhcp on my wireless network |
| 03:54.32 | Daenyth | ahh, I can't set essid and key in the same line |
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| 04:00.43 | slaxxin | where do i find software for 2008.8? |
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| 04:11.30 | torindel | fights with distcc |
| 04:11.43 | UndrWater | fight the good fight |
| 04:12.15 | UndrWater | you're not attempting distcc to arm are you? |
| 04:12.38 | torindel | why? |
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| 04:13.31 | UndrWater | i hear that's a bear |
| 04:13.45 | UndrWater | probably why you're fighting ;) |
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| 04:17.48 | Daenyth | I keep getting notifications over and over saying that the gsm modem is powering down |
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| 04:18.11 | Daenyth | I tried launching this game and it seemed to crash, so I restarted X |
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| 04:27.52 | mmontour | does a happy-dance |
| 04:28.52 | raster | does a happy moon |
| 04:28.54 | mmontour | Fixed some low-battery / charging bugs in u-boot |
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| 04:30.36 | torindel | ;] |
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| 04:31.52 | torindel | points |
| 04:31.54 | torindel | "i'm with the bear" |
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| 04:34.06 | rooly | wow |
| 04:34.07 | rooly | man |
| 04:34.17 | rooly | each time i use it i wish they had never gotten away from it |
| 04:34.24 | rooly | om2007.2's interface is so fast and clean |
| 04:34.34 | rooly | ugly it may be, it's also spartan |
| 04:34.43 | rooly | it has an endearing quality |
| 04:35.09 | torindel | distcc is evil |
| 04:35.40 | torindel | ok well it works, but like, it isnt used most of the time -__- |
| 04:36.12 | torindel | and if im thinking right it didnt even connect to half of distcc hosts |
| 04:38.12 | torindel | goes to sleep |
| 04:38.15 | torindel | night all |
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| 04:39.14 | Torikun | This podcast reviews the new openmoko neo freerunner http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_and_Open_Source_Technology_Podcast_Episode_8 |
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| 05:03.27 | Torikun | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_and_Open_Source_Technology_Podcast_Episode_8 |
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| 05:47.21 | newb_ | hi my touchscreen is not responding. any tips on how to fix it? |
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| 05:50.43 | AntonTakk | rebooted yet? |
| 05:51.10 | newb_ | AntonTakk: ? no |
| 05:51.28 | AntonTakk | :) |
| 05:53.11 | newb_ | AntonTakk: i rebooted the phone |
| 05:53.14 | newb_ | still no response |
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| 06:02.41 | cb22 | newb_, can you ssh into the phone? |
| 06:02.55 | newb_ | cb22: yes i can :) |
| 06:03.25 | cb22 | what distro are you running? |
| 06:03.33 | newb_ | cb22: om2007.2 |
| 06:04.02 | cb22 | hmmm, did it just stop working or has it never worked? |
| 06:04.11 | newb_ | cb22: stopped working :( |
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| 06:05.22 | kvk | when im flashing my build image into neo1973, i have flashed uImage successfully into the device. but when im flashing kernal image im getting the error like this " dfu-download error -110" . can anybody help me? |
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| 06:05.43 | cb22 | hmm, i don't have a freerunner yet, but maybe try run xev and see if you get anything |
| 06:06.16 | newb_ | cb22: that's for me? |
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| 06:06.23 | cb22 | newb_, yep |
| 06:06.44 | cb22 | you'll probably have to export DISPLAY=":0.0" first |
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| 06:10.01 | newb_ | cb22: i'm getting button press and release events |
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| 06:11.10 | cb22 | newb_, hmm, your touch screen could just be miscalibrated, try run tscal (i think) |
| 06:12.07 | newb_ | cb22: ok |
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| 06:16.11 | newb_ | cb22: ts_calibrate: determinant is too small -- 0.000000 |
| 06:16.21 | newb_ | cb22: calibration failed |
| 06:16.55 | cb22 | newb_, hmmm, read the wiki page about debian, there is something you can copy over, i gotta run, sorry |
| 06:17.09 | newb_ | cb22: i think it's a h/w prob |
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| 06:56.33 | newb_ | has anyone had h/w issues with the touch screen? |
| 06:58.17 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 06:58.50 | KenYoung | Hopscotch, good morning! |
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| 07:00.42 | newb_ | has anyone has h/w issues with the tscreen? i want to know how i can DIY and fix it |
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| 07:01.29 | KenYoung | newb_, I have not, but I think the community-list has a thread from someone who cracked their screen. You might check that out. |
| 07:02.01 | newb_ | KenYoung: how? |
| 07:02.35 | KenYoung | newb, Do you mean how did he crack the screen, or how to check the community-list, or how something else? |
| 07:03.54 | swc|666 | i'm still trying to figure out how my usb power switch / boost converter fried :s |
| 07:04.59 | newb_ | KenYoung: let me check the community list |
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| 07:06.15 | newb_ | KenYoung: can't find the list |
| 07:07.00 | KenYoung | newb_, Check the August list, the thread is entitled "A very sad story..." I didn't read the whole thread, but I know the guy was trying to find out how to replace a broken screen. |
| 07:07.13 | cga`work | hi folks |
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| 07:07.34 | KenYoung | newb_, http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/thread.html |
| 07:07.48 | Zoup | i suspend that my vibrator isnt working , how can i manually force device to vibrate ( by shell ? ) |
| 07:07.50 | KenYoung | newb_, Search for "sad". |
| 07:09.00 | newb_ | KenYoung: ok |
| 07:09.08 | newb_ | KenYoung: can't find anything with sad |
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| 07:10.10 | KenYoung | newb_, It's there, here's the first entry: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-August/025729.html |
| 07:11.38 | newb_ | KenYoung: i haven't cracked my LCD. it's just not responding correctly. |
| 07:12.41 | KenYoung | newb_, Sorry, that's as close as I can get to being helpful. I thought you wanted info on how to replace the LCD screen. I think that thread has a discussion of that. |
| 07:12.58 | XorA | newb_: have you dismantled the phone? |
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| 07:13.58 | newb_ | XorA no. i have not |
| 07:14.04 | XorA | newb_: also does your screen work in X and not Y or vice versa? |
| 07:14.49 | XorA | ts_test_raw will print the raw value returned from touchscreen |
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| 07:14.53 | newb_ | XorA: just gimme a minute i'll tell u |
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| 07:29.18 | ljp | XorA: do you if there is anyway to tell if a headset is plugged in before boot up? |
| 07:29.58 | ljp | XorA: only way I know os from input device and when the headset is plugged in prior to booting, it never gets an input generated |
| 07:30.10 | XorA | ljp: I think you would have to use the interrupt pin as a general IO and test |
| 07:30.24 | ljp | ouch |
| 07:30.40 | Wonka | by the way, the FS of my microsdhc card was eaten again... |
| 07:31.01 | Wonka | fsck running for 5 minutes now and spitting messages like wild |
| 07:31.05 | XorA | ljp: probably something for the kernel list, I think it wont generate an IRQ to indicate insertion in that state so we should probably test on boot and set some flag |
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| 07:35.35 | hipitihop | hiho all |
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| 07:36.19 | hipitihop | Anyone know a decent PDF viewer that I can run on fso-testing ? |
| 07:36.57 | newb_ | XoraA: the screen works only in X. the Y values are STUCK |
| 07:36.58 | beni_ | is interested in pdf too |
| 07:37.10 | newb_ | XorA: the screen works only in X not in Y |
| 07:37.28 | beni_ | hipitihop: i would try xpdf, but i dont know if it is available for ARM |
| 07:37.37 | ieatlint | http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk/armv4t/epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk |
| 07:37.49 | beni_ | ieatlint: thanks |
| 07:37.59 | ieatlint | if it says you've missing dependencies, they'll be in that directory |
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| 07:38.24 | ieatlint | that's a decent small pdf viewer... 4mb graphical pdf takes ~40s to load, but then navigates smoothly |
| 07:39.14 | beni_ | nice |
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| 07:40.38 | hipitihop | ieatlint, I'll have a look thnaks |
| 07:41.01 | beni_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Epdfview |
| 07:41.03 | newb_ | XorA: :( |
| 07:41.05 | beni_ | describes it a bit |
| 07:41.50 | hipitihop | beni_, ieatlint will it show up on the ilume desktop ? |
| 07:42.02 | ieatlint | yeah, it creates an icon for illume |
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| 07:42.08 | newb_ | XorA: ? |
| 07:42.20 | ieatlint | well... not a graphical one, just a blank icon with the subtitle "epdfviewer" |
| 07:42.21 | hipitihop | ieatlint, cool, will install shortly |
| 07:42.58 | hipitihop | while we are at it, is there a clean file manager ui app also ? |
| 07:43.09 | ieatlint | hmmm, should i order a pizza? |
| 07:44.05 | hipitihop | pepperoni and mushroom for me |
| 07:45.08 | ieatlint | there's an "openmoko-filebrowser" for 2007.2 ... not sure what it consists of |
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| 07:50.38 | newb_ | XorA: my Y values aren't working right |
| 07:51.01 | newb_ | XorA: hope u can help me fix this. will b willing to open up the case. |
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| 07:55.32 | Zoup | which packages contain libficgta01vendor.so ? |
| 07:56.18 | XorA | newb_: it sounds like cable/connector damage |
| 07:56.20 | Wonka | yeah, super. fsck segfaults while repairing my corrupted microsdhc |
| 07:56.47 | XorA | newb_: the cables are quite tricky from what I remeber |
| 07:57.22 | newb_ | XorA: best suggestion? |
| 07:57.25 | XorA | newb_: did you get it from a reseller? |
| 07:57.33 | newb_ | XorA: yea i got it from a reseller |
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| 07:57.53 | kinneh | anybody tried any of the snapshots of fso, i tried 20080824 but it has "no debus" |
| 07:57.55 | XorA | newb_: contact them and see if they have capability to look for you |
| 07:58.06 | XorA | I know some of the resellers are doing minor repairs |
| 07:58.37 | newb_ | XorA: ok i will do that. i think at my workplace we have good enough expertise to fix all these touch screens. we make mobile devices too. |
| 07:59.24 | XorA | newb_: cool, I suspect that one of the pins used for X is not making connection |
| 07:59.34 | XorA | newb_: as otherwise the screen seems to be working |
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| 08:06.00 | newb_ | XorA: is there a good video where they show how to open up the device without damaging it? :) |
| 08:07.26 | evolux | is there some package for cisco vpns for openmoko? If not, can someone give me a starting hint how to cross-compile it? |
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| 08:08.28 | XorA | newb_: there are detailed instructions in wiki somewhere |
| 08:08.36 | XorA | newb_: we use guitar picks :-) |
| 08:08.48 | Zoup | sorry , anyone knows which packages contain libficgta01vendor.so ? or where i can find the packages name ( packages.debian.org like web page ) |
| 08:08.53 | newb_ | XorA: yikes! |
| 08:09.09 | XorA | Zoup: its in qtopia-x11-*.ipk somewhere |
| 08:09.21 | XorA | Zoup: the package name should be self explanatory |
| 08:09.54 | XorA | newb_: basically you unscrew the two screws, run something soft and plastic around the join until all the catches pop, then it just comes apart |
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| 08:10.50 | newb_ | XorA: ok sounds VERY INTERESTING |
| 08:11.04 | newb_ | XorA: I HAVE TO TAKE IT APART NOW!!! :) |
| 08:14.49 | newb_ | gets busy looking for a guitar pick |
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| 08:15.05 | XorA | newb_: corner of a credit card works as well |
| 08:15.27 | newb_ | XorA: yes it's just like a guitar pick. :) |
| 08:15.30 | XorA | newb_: just as long as its soft enough it doesnt scratch the phone |
| 08:15.34 | hipitihop | ieatlint, hmmm epdf showed the images but struggles to shwo any text and also managed to crash it. is there another ? |
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| 08:17.31 | Russia_Bozz_ | sucht jemand bande ??? |
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| 08:27.38 | Zoup | where there are lots of packages in opkg list that are not available in installer ? |
| 08:28.26 | Zoup | why there are i mean :) |
| 08:28.59 | marcinsoo | are you talking about 2008.8 ? |
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| 08:31.05 | marcinsoo | i assume - these ones in installer might be "stable" ( or less unstable ;P) |
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| 08:33.40 | Zoup | marcinsoo: i see |
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| 08:38.53 | marcinsoo | Zoup : can you see your contacts from SIM ? yesterday i could, it disapeared by itself :/ |
| 08:39.39 | Zoup | marcinsoo: i can , still! |
| 08:40.47 | marcinsoo | i'll try to reinstall contacts |
| 08:42.09 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07zhone * re93a835df742 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added profiles applications |
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| 08:45.07 | hipitihop | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.52 | DocScrutinizer | newb_: FR still alive ? ;-) |
| 08:48.02 | hipitihop | someone here a coupl eof days ago mentioned another distribution they were about to release, anyone rember or have a link |
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| 08:49.14 | hipitihop | anyone have an evince package suitable for fso-testing ? |
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| 08:51.36 | hipitihop | what is the best viewer available for the fr ? I have a PDF but epdf seems flaky. Happy to convert to another format if the viewer is good |
| 08:52.02 | hipitihop | assuming there is an easy pdf -> whatever converter |
| 08:52.46 | XorA | epdfview is quite good, Ill have to see about making it appear in the feeds |
| 08:53.00 | leinir | Hmm... There's opiereader which is supposedly quite good - never used it myself, though :) |
| 08:53.59 | hipitihop | XorA, just tried epdfview and could not get it to show text, images seemed ok and could not get out of full screen mode. Do you have link to ipk you are using ? |
| 08:54.23 | XorA | hipitihop: hmm, sounds like we dont install enough fonts |
| 08:54.32 | XorA | hipitihop: I dont have a .ipk handy |
| 08:54.58 | XorA | I used it for years on my zaurus |
| 08:55.26 | hipitihop | XorA, ieatlint suggested this one http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk/armv4t/epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk but I have no idea what or how to install sufficient fonts |
| 08:55.52 | BDo | I'm trying to find out a bug I suspect |
| 08:56.00 | XorA | hipitihop: Ill try and remeber to give it a look |
| 08:56.09 | BDo | It seems that the automatic time update has a flaw |
| 08:56.24 | BDo | (at least it has had this night for me) |
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| 09:14.55 | lindi- | Zoup: are you using debian? |
| 09:15.59 | Zoup | lindi-: yes |
| 09:16.10 | Zoup | lindi-: aem no , om2008 on moko :)) |
| 09:17.33 | lindi- | Zoup: since with debian you can see the packages in http://pkg-fso.nomeata.de/ |
| 09:17.58 | lindi- | Zoup: (for the pkg-fso packages that are not in debian yet) |
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| 09:18.11 | Zoup | lindi-: are you using debian on moko ? i have few questions |
| 09:18.18 | lindi- | Zoup: yes |
| 09:18.34 | lindi- | Zoup: mailing list works much better for questions, i am at work right now |
| 09:18.51 | Zoup | lindi-: just few question , is this stable and working as a phone ? |
| 09:19.02 | lindi- | for me yes |
| 09:19.08 | Zoup | lindi-:well , is this better than 0m's ? |
| 09:19.22 | lindi- | for development at least |
| 09:19.37 | lindi- | i had trouble compiling other distros |
| 09:19.52 | Zoup | lindi-: its only possible to install debian on ssd card ,right ? |
| 09:20.27 | lindi- | Zoup: more or less true, somebody posted instructions to make it fit on nand flash though. but you don't have much room for development then |
| 09:20.44 | lindi- | that might happen with emdebian in the future but not now |
| 09:21.16 | Zoup | lindi-: thanks , last question , i need to run my own X and windows managers right ? where will be dialer and other free runner specific applications ? |
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| 09:34.45 | newb_ | DocScrutinizer: i was out for lunch |
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| 09:38.23 | lindi- | hm, he /parted |
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| 09:43.21 | Zoup | running om2008 here , can anyone guide my how can i upgrade to latest testing release ? |
| 09:43.39 | Zorkman | you'll have to add zecke's feeds |
| 09:43.47 | Zorkman | note: these are not "official" |
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| 09:44.06 | Zoup | Zorkman: i really wonder how to do that , and choose which directory |
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| 09:44.29 | Zorkman | it's soemwher eon the ML, give me a sec and I'll find it for you |
| 09:44.37 | Zoup | Zorkman: something like this ? : src/gz daily-om-gta02 http://people.openmoko.org/~zecke/qtopia-testing/ |
| 09:44.40 | Zoup | Zorkman: thank you very much |
| 09:45.00 | Zorkman | ok Zoup, there are two feeds: development/unstable and testing feeds |
| 09:45.10 | Zorkman | if you're not a developper I would suggest the testing feeds |
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| 09:45.34 | Zorkman | you'll have to edit your /etc/opkg/ files |
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| 09:46.16 | Zorkman | sorry wrong copy-paste |
| 09:46.27 | Zorkman | i'll PM you |
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| 10:04.33 | ike | Morning people. |
| 10:04.44 | vatts | morning |
| 10:04.56 | Zorkman | morning |
| 10:04.57 | vatts | Software status - NOT a stable or usable phone yet. |
| 10:05.01 | vatts | haha ;) |
| 10:06.27 | Zoup | do i need gpsd to use gps under om2008 ? |
| 10:06.48 | Shlee | Milestone 3 is due in afew weeks... Hopefully should be stable ;) |
| 10:07.21 | Bill_ | Zorkman: how does your testing correlate to http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ if at all? |
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| 10:07.45 | gromez | Zoup: Locations seems to work without gpsd |
| 10:08.23 | Zorkman | a day or 4 ago Mickey sayd that 7-10days was realistic :) |
| 10:08.33 | Zorkman | so lets hope it doesn't become "in a few weeks":) |
| 10:10.46 | Shlee | The commits have slowed but I'll hopefully recieve my OM by the release and ready for debugging :) |
| 10:10.58 | Shlee | I assume they are testing inhouse. |
| 10:11.41 | Zoup | opkg says " Could not obtain administrative lock |
| 10:11.52 | Zoup | there is no opkg process or file under /tmp |
| 10:12.26 | vatts | zoup-> i you run apt-get in terminal, synaptic will tell you that there is apt runing |
| 10:12.36 | vatts | it is not necesary zhat there is opkg running |
| 10:12.57 | vatts | maybe opkg is program wich uses another program wich uses administrative lock |
| 10:13.10 | Zoup | vatts: aaaaha , i really wonder what other application can make that lock |
| 10:13.15 | vatts | or that "another program" is still runing |
| 10:13.31 | vatts | Zoup, reboot and try again or ctrl + alt + backspace =P |
| 10:13.53 | vatts | stabs openwindows |
| 10:13.59 | vatts | ^^it is closed |
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| 10:18.21 | vatts | ja Wohl, General ;) |
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| 10:20.40 | Zorkman | Zoup: killall packagekit |
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| 10:28.09 | methril | morning |
| 10:30.12 | Zorkman | llo |
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| 10:34.44 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03charlie 07zhone * r2c5f288cf0ba 10/data/themes/zhone.edc: Forgot to commit zhone.edc |
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| 10:36.29 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.dev * r006f053c0dcd 10/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb: [openmoko-feed] add epdfview nice small pdf viewer |
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| 10:40.01 | dns53 | anyone know how to configure a matchbox panel? |
| 10:42.26 | Shlee | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues Are these problems still current? |
| 10:42.41 | Bill_ | mostly, yes |
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| 10:58.36 | dns53 | we have any debian users here? |
| 10:59.46 | madwoota | in general, or on a FR? :) |
| 11:00.28 | dns53 | i'm trying to set up a matchbox based gui |
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| 11:05.58 | dns53 | anyone know where the gnome channel is? |
| 11:06.43 | Zoup | when i switch in headset, internal speacker are not stoped |
| 11:07.17 | Zorkman | dns53: #gnome seems like a good guess :) |
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| 11:08.28 | ronny | also note that the gnome people got their own irc server |
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| 11:53.44 | hipitihop | anyone have evince running on fso-testing, alternatively what fonts do I need for epdfview ? |
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| 12:06.25 | treb0r | hello |
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| 12:06.55 | treb0r | anybody running debian on their freerunner? anyboody in the uk? |
| 12:07.22 | treb0r | trying to decide if I should jump in or just wait.. |
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| 12:11.11 | bumbl | treb0r: wait |
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| 12:11.15 | Dave | yeah |
| 12:11.30 | bumbl | i'm not in the uk though |
| 12:12.59 | Toaster` | question, my signal and battery icons have become very small relative to my clock in the top bar (OM2008.8). I've played with ilume-config to no avail. Any ideas? |
| 12:13.44 | Dave | Toaster, very small? |
| 12:13.57 | Dave | In the newer upgrades/images the taskbar icons have become smaller |
| 12:14.04 | Dave | I'm not sure if that's what you're getting at. |
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| 12:14.50 | Toaster` | Dave: extremly small (maybe 5-8 pixals?) |
| 12:15.03 | bumbl | Dave: already at work? it must be ~8:14 in new jersey? |
| 12:16.42 | bumbl | Toaster`: rm -r ~/.e |
| 12:16.50 | Dave | yep |
| 12:16.57 | Dave | bumble, about to leave ;) |
| 12:17.04 | bumbl | or mv ~/.e /.e.bak |
| 12:17.28 | bumbl | ah then |
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| 12:18.45 | bumbl | have fun at work |
| 12:19.36 | Toaster` | bumbl: then restart X right? |
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| 12:19.52 | bumbl | Toaster`: yes |
| 12:20.24 | Toaster` | much better. Thanks bumbl, Dave. |
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| 12:22.35 | dns53 | icewesel takes too much memory for a phone |
| 12:22.44 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.dev * rd18e249f70db 10/packages/libsdl/libsdl-image_1.2.6.bb: [libsdl-image] new version 1.2.6, doesnt need autotools.patch |
| 12:22.44 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.dev * r1bac640a51bf 10/packages/python/ (python-pygame-1.7.1/Setup python-pygame_1.7.1.bb): [python-pygame] it seems libSDL-* stuff changed name sometime, catching |
| 12:24.54 | beni_ | dns53: unfortunately. |
| 12:25.08 | bumbl | dns53: firefox is kind of bloated ... you might try epiphany; I don't like it but it should be not that fat |
| 12:26.20 | dns53 | the webkit version or the geko version? |
| 12:26.47 | bumbl | webkit |
| 12:27.06 | bumbl | is much lighter than gecko (look at the iphone) |
| 12:27.45 | dns53 | you know how to configure the matchbox panel and menu? |
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| 12:29.43 | bumbl | dns53: you either look at the text config files |
| 12:29.52 | bumbl | or you get the right click working |
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| 12:31.38 | Dave | eh? |
| 12:32.02 | Dave | heh, iceweasel |
| 12:32.12 | hipitihop | rwhitby, you about ? |
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| 12:34.25 | dns53 | goxboxlive interesting nick |
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| 12:34.40 | goxboxlive | dns53: yes isent it |
| 12:34.46 | Dave | s'kjera? |
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| 12:35.06 | Zorkman | :) |
| 12:35.14 | Dave | Zorkman! \o/ |
| 12:35.18 | Zorkman | for teh win! |
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| 12:36.06 | erl_ | When I try to test some software on the Freerunner from an ssh session, I get the following error. How do work around it? I've tried setting DISPLAY to :0.0, but it doesn't help: dbus-launch failed to autolaunch D-Bus session: Autolaunch requested, but X11 support not compiled in. |
| 12:36.31 | Dave | zorkman, wanneer is jouw verjaardag? |
| 12:36.43 | Zorkman | november 19, why? |
| 12:36.54 | Dave | ga jij dit jaar een feestje geven? |
| 12:36.59 | Zorkman | probably :) |
| 12:37.03 | Dave | :D |
| 12:37.03 | dns53 | try display=localhost:0 |
| 12:37.05 | Zorkman | with lots of booze! |
| 12:37.09 | Dave | hehe |
| 12:37.32 | Zorkman | if you're around... everyone with a FR gets a geek-cap :) |
| 12:37.39 | Dave | :D! |
| 12:37.45 | Dave | Am I invited? :P |
| 12:37.49 | Zorkman | sure |
| 12:37.56 | Dave | \o/ |
| 12:38.09 | Zorkman | you can check my current location with tangogps :) |
| 12:38.23 | Zorkman | the party will be in ghent though |
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| 12:38.30 | Dave | :P |
| 12:38.35 | erl_ | dns53: Doesn't help. I think it works from the terminal on the phone, so it's probably related to some environment variable. |
| 12:38.36 | Dave | oh, okay :) |
| 12:38.49 | Dave | does the tango |
| 12:39.00 | hipitihop | can someone point to a ipk file for epdf or xpdf, I'm using fso-testing and need something usable |
| 12:39.12 | Zorkman | there are only two people being displayed in belgium, so it shouldn't be too hard to find me :) |
| 12:39.21 | Dave | :D |
| 12:40.00 | Dave | Ah, I forgot about that... |
| 12:40.05 | Dave | Where is that cool display page, anyway? |
| 12:40.26 | Zorkman | display page? |
| 12:41.18 | Dave | People |
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| 12:42.00 | Zorkman | click on friends |
| 12:42.05 | Zorkman | on the uttom |
| 12:42.27 | Zorkman | then there is a section "getting other's position" |
| 12:43.08 | bumbl | big [insert insane minister/agency here] is watching you |
| 12:43.09 | Zorkman | Dave: "lazy lulu" is relatively close to you :) |
| 12:44.28 | Zorkman | lol, on august 13 wurp was floating aroun on the west coast of afrika :) |
| 12:44.28 | Zorkman | wurp2|working: what were you doing there? :p |
| 12:44.36 | Zorkman | (together with bazz and elleo :)) |
| 12:44.40 | Dave | o_O |
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| 12:44.43 | Dave | what what!? |
| 12:44.57 | Dave | wtf!? |
| 12:45.38 | Zorkman | stong and hexer look like the rescue party sent out to recover his body |
| 12:45.47 | Zorkman | (august 21 and 23) |
| 12:46.07 | Zorkman | if wurp2|working is really working, I think he is a zombie (probably working at taking over the world...) |
| 12:47.51 | Zorkman | rwhitby is also visible |
| 12:48.51 | Dave | haha |
| 12:49.01 | Dave | I should have made my exploits visible... |
| 12:49.06 | Dave | good thing I've got all the GPS records! |
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| 12:49.12 | Dave | I can make my own map :) |
| 12:49.36 | Elleo | Zorkman: yeah, tango should probably disregard 0,0 as a position ;) |
| 12:49.49 | Zorkman | :) |
| 12:50.37 | Zorkman | first one on antarctica (withough cheating) wins THE PRIZE! |
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| 12:51.24 | Bill_ | whats the prize? :P |
| 12:51.29 | Dave | AFRICA PARTY! |
| 12:51.32 | Dave | Everyone's there! :P |
| 12:51.33 | Dave | haw |
| 12:52.13 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.dev * reb5c937290bd 10/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-feed.bb: [openmoko-feed] add python-pygame |
| 12:52.13 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03graeme 07org.openmoko.dev * r2af69bd40d9e 10/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: [prefferred-om-versions] use the newer libSDL-image |
| 12:53.07 | Zorkman | it's rasters last week @openmoko |
| 12:53.14 | Zorkman | we should throw him a party! |
| 12:55.07 | Zorkman | if only tangoGPS could do routing... |
| 12:55.16 | Dave | really? |
| 12:55.24 | Dave | Did he get voted off the island? |
| 12:55.39 | Zorkman | don't know how it went, but he's quitting |
| 12:55.46 | Dave | :O |
| 12:55.49 | Zorkman | he said so some weeks ago (also wrote it in a mail) |
| 12:55.57 | Dave | RASTER, BRING US THE GLAMO DOCS ON YOUR WAY OUT, PLEASE. |
| 12:56.05 | Zorkman | :D :D :D |
| 12:56.06 | Dave | \o/ |
| 12:56.09 | Dave | >:) |
| 12:56.15 | Dave | That's the best way to go out! |
| 12:56.16 | Dave | :) |
| 12:56.17 | Zorkman | that would be the day |
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| 12:57.27 | ronny | hmm, does the freerunner gpu already work with mesa (for opengl) ? |
| 12:57.49 | Dave | I doubt it |
| 12:57.54 | opendeep | Is it "opkg remove <package-name> " is right way to uninstall? |
| 12:58.28 | Zorkman | jup |
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| 13:00.21 | Dave | grawr |
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| 13:04.17 | fursund | Hi... |
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| 13:05.00 | fursund | I accidentally entered my sim pin too many times... I rebooted and now it does not give me the option of entering the puk-code |
| 13:05.35 | fursund | is there any way I can enter the puk-code or make the pin entering app start again? |
| 13:05.44 | Zorkman | fursund: file a bug report |
| 13:06.00 | Zorkman | fursund: and insert your sim in another phone and enter the puk code |
| 13:06.00 | fursund | sure |
| 13:06.13 | Zorkman | i don't think puk is implemented yet |
| 13:07.00 | Zorkman | fursund: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1084 |
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| 13:07.31 | fursund | hmm ok... actually it asked for the puk... but then I rebooted because I thought that might give me the possibility of entering the pin again (I know it doesn't really, I was just too fast)... when I rebooted the pin app does not show up again |
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| 13:08.10 | Zorkman | seems like dbus has something for puk: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mdbus |
| 13:08.15 | Zorkman | org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM.Unlock( s:puk, s:new_pin ) |
| 13:08.28 | Dave | fursund, yes, you can manually trigger the PIN dialog |
| 13:09.31 | fursund | Dave, how? |
| 13:09.53 | Dave | I don't remember specifically, but I'm pretty sure it's on the wiki |
| 13:10.03 | Dave | There's a whole second about the PIN dialog issue :) |
| 13:10.13 | fursund | Zorkman how would I use that command? |
| 13:10.25 | fursund | can you point me to it? |
| 13:10.31 | Zorkman | forsund: that is only implemented in FSO I think |
| 13:10.37 | fursund | because I could not find it... |
| 13:10.44 | fursund | ok thanks Zorkman |
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| 13:12.27 | mbuf | MMS support is available on the Neo? |
| 13:12.58 | Zorkman | ronny: you're on television |
| 13:13.01 | Zorkman | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqO0wTmn9o |
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| 13:13.17 | Zorkman | at 1:53 |
| 13:13.45 | ronny | oO |
| 13:13.49 | ronny | omg, they got me |
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| 13:16.53 | Zorkman | i was still using tangogps 0.9.2-r1 |
| 13:17.41 | bumbl | Dave: raster quitted because sean promised him that he could bring in his ideas for the moko and that he is allowed to implement features he and the community want after he has done some basics of illume |
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| 13:25.47 | hipitihop | I'm running tangogps on fso-testing and keep seeing "GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running" in my terminal. suggestions ? |
| 13:25.48 | newb_ | has anyone managed to conk out their touchscreen over here? |
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| 13:28.01 | hari | newb_, i managed to scratch the touchscreen with a HP Ipaq pen... |
| 13:28.12 | hari | newb_, the HP pens tip is too hard |
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| 13:28.29 | newb_ | hari: my touch screen died today. it doesn't register clicks in the Y Axis :) |
| 13:28.42 | newb_ | hari: u ever opened up ur neo? |
| 13:28.47 | hari | mine works, but the display has two small scratches now.. idiot me |
| 13:28.54 | hari | opened yes, disassembled, no |
| 13:29.52 | newb_ | hari: how did u open it up? |
| 13:30.10 | newb_ | hari: is it a good idea at all to open it up? |
| 13:30.14 | hari | you can open the shell when you grab it on top of the phone |
| 13:30.29 | hari | you have access to the battery, sim, SD card and GPS antenna then |
| 13:30.40 | hari | i've not been farther than that.. |
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| 13:38.34 | Zorkman | Dave, you still here? |
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| 13:41.58 | newb_ | hari: how did u open up the phone? |
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| 13:42.15 | newb_ | oh! |
| 13:42.20 | newb_ | u haven't dismantled it :P |
| 13:42.27 | newb_ | when i said open i meant dismantling |
| 13:42.37 | hari | no |
| 13:42.39 | newb_ | removing the back cover isn't my idea of opening a phone |
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| 13:44.00 | newb_ | how come there is no wiki instructions on how to open up the phone :(? |
| 13:45.23 | |Marco| | well, you need a screwdriver of a spesial sort for it to fit so you can pop the covers |
| 13:45.34 | XorA | newb_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Disassembling_Neo_1973 |
| 13:45.52 | almien | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Installing_the_Micro-SD_card.2C_the_SIM_card.2C_and_the_Battery |
| 13:46.14 | newb_ | XorA: yay!! ur still here. i fell asleep |
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| 13:46.29 | XorA | newb_: heh, Im tired as well, must be catching |
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| 13:49.38 | hipitihop | can someone point me to latest ipk file for epdfview I'm using fso-testing and its not included in the feeds |
| 13:49.45 | Dave | Xora! |
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| 13:50.38 | Dave | bumble? |
| 13:50.45 | Dave | and? |
| 13:50.47 | Dave | Zorkman, yes. |
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| 13:51.26 | Zorkman | you have, or know anyojne with a sony e-book reader? |
| 13:51.57 | Zorkman | http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665245739 |
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| 13:52.12 | Zorkman | they're still not available in europe :(:(: |
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| 13:52.26 | Zorkman | although i've seen an english site where we can pre-oder |
| 13:52.27 | Dave | Hmm? |
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| 13:52.44 | Dave | Zorkman, want one? |
| 13:53.01 | Zorkman | yeah I'm thinking of buying one since I learned about it |
| 13:53.07 | munga2 | how can I change the packagekit fonts ? to make the smaller ? |
| 13:53.53 | Zorkman | there's a dutch alternative (illiad), but that one has all kind of stuf I don't need and costs too much (for a mere student :-)) |
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| 13:54.14 | bumbl | Zorkman: if it is the one I mean (also a sony) it is available at a german distributor |
| 13:54.43 | Zorkman | it is? for how much? and do you know the name fo the distributor? |
| 13:55.35 | Dave | heh |
| 13:55.42 | Dave | Zorkman, show me? :D |
| 13:55.53 | Dave | German knockoffs? |
| 13:55.54 | Dave | :D |
| 13:55.55 | Zorkman | show you what Dave? |
| 13:56.01 | Dave | The Illiad? |
| 13:56.31 | bumbl | Zorkman: I am looking for the link myself - I have "lost" it |
| 13:56.40 | Dave | :[ |
| 13:56.47 | Zorkman | Dave: http://www.ebookreaders.nl/irex_iliad_2nd_edition |
| 13:56.51 | Dave | :o |
| 13:56.53 | Zorkman | Dave: http://www.ebookreaders.nl/iliad_book_edition |
| 13:56.55 | Dave | oh it's an irex product |
| 13:57.01 | Zorkman | yes it is |
| 13:57.08 | Zorkman | http://www.irextechnologies.com/products/iliad |
| 13:57.46 | Zorkman | butr it's a bit too costly for me because i don't need wifi or touchscreen on such a device |
| 13:57.48 | bumbl | Zorkman: I read the link at heise |
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| 13:58.58 | Zorkman | bumbl: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Sony-bringt-elektronisches-Buch-mit-E-Ink-Display--/meldung/68001 but this is a very old message |
| 13:59.05 | retracile | Dave: What have you found to be good games for the FR? |
| 13:59.10 | Zorkman | so Dave, do you know someone in the states that has one? |
| 13:59.16 | Dave | woot |
| 13:59.21 | Zorkman | hehe, someone to join our club :) |
| 13:59.24 | retracile | (I seem to recall you messing with a number of those, right?) |
| 13:59.24 | Dave | sure |
| 13:59.26 | XorA | hipitihop: I just built an epdfview seems to be working fine on buildhost builds |
| 13:59.31 | Dave | epdfview works |
| 13:59.36 | Dave | I have it on my freerunner |
| 13:59.36 | XorA | hipitihop: buildhost will make an epdfview package tomorrow |
| 13:59.59 | XorA | is pleasently suprised how fast epdview works on FR |
| 14:00.13 | Dave | yeah :) |
| 14:00.16 | Dave | pleasantly so |
| 14:00.25 | Dave | though it taxes hard with some mega pdfs |
| 14:00.28 | Dave | :p |
| 14:00.34 | hipitihop | XorA is that rwhitby's builds for fsotesting and fs-unstable or something else ? |
| 14:00.39 | Dave | What version do you have, Xora? |
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| 14:00.55 | XorA | Dave: epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk |
| 14:01.04 | bumbl | Zorkman: no it is hidden in the comments to a story about kindle |
| 14:01.14 | Dave | okay :) |
| 14:01.16 | XorA | hipitihop: get rwhitby to add it to his builds |
| 14:01.42 | Zorkman | to get it running, what do we have to do? install every ipk from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/21 ? |
| 14:01.46 | hipitihop | XorA, will do, can I have you ipk or is it not compatible ? |
| 14:02.17 | XorA | hipitihop: I think it should work with FSO, gimme a few mins to push to a site you can grab from |
| 14:02.45 | hipitihop | XorA, appreciate it |
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| 14:04.20 | Dave | Zorkman :( |
| 14:04.35 | XorA | hipitihop: https://people.openmoko.org/~graeme/epdfview/ |
| 14:05.03 | Dave | Is the only way presently to get/view friends/people on tangogps is on the tangogps app? |
| 14:05.21 | Dave | I would have thought there's be a decent web app/map by now :| |
| 14:05.26 | hipitihop | XorA, thanks will try and and install and advise |
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| 14:07.56 | Zorkman | opkg: https://people.openmoko.org/~graeme/epdfview/epdfview_0.1.6-r3_armv4t.ipk: No such file or directory |
| 14:07.56 | Zorkman | An error ocurred, return value: 2. |
| 14:08.34 | Zorkman | ah i see, i need to download from http:// |
| 14:08.50 | bumbl | Dave: http://www.tangogps.org/friends/ |
| 14:08.54 | ike | I need power! |
| 14:08.55 | ike | root@hackofon:~# apm |
| 14:08.55 | ike | On-line, battery status critical: 2% (45d+12:15:00) |
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| 14:09.27 | Zorkman | plug it in ike :) |
| 14:09.31 | TAsn-orderedmoko | bumbl, friend finder isn't that cool. |
| 14:09.54 | TAsn-orderedmoko | i prefer his development time spent on better things. |
| 14:10.22 | Zorkman | like ROUTING! |
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| 14:10.31 | XorA | should tie that into something like facebook |
| 14:10.37 | Zorkman | are there planns to make tangogps being able to do routing? |
| 14:10.41 | XorA | make it a whole lot more fun |
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| 14:12.11 | white_gecko | hello |
| 14:12.27 | white_gecko | how can i check if python cairo is installed correctly? |
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| 14:12.46 | TAsn-orderedmoko | Zorkman, routing is for geeks. ;0 |
| 14:13.05 | ike | Zorkman: it's ALIVE! |
| 14:13.06 | ike | ;-) |
| 14:13.09 | Zorkman | :) |
| 14:13.24 | white_gecko | because i get "ImportError: No module named cairo" when i run pyPenNotes.py |
| 14:13.38 | Zorkman | good Ike! now comes the hard part: keeping it alive :) |
| 14:13.57 | white_gecko | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyPenNotes |
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| 14:14.04 | ike | I'm trying. I'm trying. |
| 14:14.24 | ike | But it's so ungrateful baby. |
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| 14:14.58 | Zorkman | smack it! |
| 14:15.39 | ike | w00t? :-) are you mad? |
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| 14:16.30 | Zoup | if i install debian in fr , how can i see dialer , sms , etc ? |
| 14:17.10 | bumbl | Zoup: zhone |
| 14:17.12 | Zoup | are these FSO packages ? |
| 14:17.24 | bumbl | yes |
| 14:17.39 | bumbl | zhone is the fso testing gui |
| 14:17.46 | Zoup | bumbl: then how will i noticed if someone calls ? |
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| 14:17.53 | bumbl | start zhone |
| 14:17.59 | ike | Yup.It will ring. |
| 14:18.01 | hipitihop | XorA, :-( wants gtk+ (>= 2.12.11) |
| 14:18.18 | CVirus | Any progress on the White screen of death ? |
| 14:18.20 | Zoup | bumbl: so , under debian , for example XFCE , this zhone always had to be run , right ? |
| 14:18.55 | Zorkman | XorA: it's nice |
| 14:18.59 | XorA | hipitihop: crap, didnt I merge that back to OE yet :-( |
| 14:19.05 | Zoup | i running debian on FR has better performance than om's ? |
| 14:19.12 | bumbl | Zoup: unless you have another app which implements the fso specs, yes |
| 14:19.33 | Dave | How are you gentlemen? |
| 14:19.35 | Zoup | bumbl: i mean is this faster than Oms ? lighter ? |
| 14:20.09 | Dave | bumble, have you BEEN to friends? |
| 14:20.16 | bumbl | that was the answer to [16:18:19] <Zoup> bumbl: so , under debian , for example XFCE , this zhone always had to be run , right ? |
| 14:20.16 | Dave | it's COMING SOON |
| 14:20.17 | Dave | :P |
| 14:20.26 | bumbl | Dave: yes I was there |
| 14:20.26 | Dave | Who's using zhone? |
| 14:20.31 | Dave | yeah, it's nothing |
| 14:20.38 | Dave | so the answer to my question must be 'yes' |
| 14:20.38 | bumbl | yeah |
| 14:20.45 | Dave | Furthermore, why am I asking you guys :P |
| 14:20.48 | hipitihop | XorA, opkg list *gtk+* on my fso-testing lists gtk+-fascaling* only |
| 14:20.53 | bumbl | that's what I want to tell you |
| 14:20.59 | Arcnet | hm... can anyone recommend the current daily release for the gta02? (I'm using 20080819 right now and had some problems with suspend)? |
| 14:21.04 | bumbl | it's there but not finished yet |
| 14:21.04 | XorA | hipitihop: hmm, looks like Ill have to sync back to OE the gtk+ changesw |
| 14:21.16 | white_gecko | i have a problem with python an cairo |
| 14:21.22 | XorA | hipitihop: OM.dev is ahead of OE.dev in this respect then |
| 14:21.23 | white_gecko | where can i get more information about this? |
| 14:21.30 | hipitihop | XorA, don't want to create work for you, I'm sure you have better things to do |
| 14:21.49 | XorA | hipitihop: well a merge is due this week anyway, but not today |
| 14:22.01 | XorA | probably tomorrow |
| 14:22.04 | hipitihop | XorA, I'll have to be patient then I guess |
| 14:22.22 | Dave | Xora, who keeps playing with the buildhost layout? :p |
| 14:22.35 | Zorkman | XorA: when going to fullscreen there is no option to exit fullscreen :) |
| 14:22.36 | hipitihop | XorA, so I geuss rwhitby can't do much until the merge either |
| 14:22.47 | XorA | Dave: it hasnt changed for months |
| 14:23.14 | XorA | Zorkman: well it is a desktop app that just happens to work well on PDA |
| 14:23.22 | XorA | Zorkman: the author used to be receptive to patches |
| 14:23.32 | XorA | Zorkman: I get them to change some stuff for us before :-) |
| 14:23.53 | Dave | cough |
| 14:24.04 | Daenyth | Can someone help me get mofi running |
| 14:24.07 | Dave | Xora, then someone's changing the dist package |
| 14:24.21 | Daenyth | I install the 0.02 ipkg, but I can't start it. When I try, it dies saying it can't load the cairo module |
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| 14:24.36 | Dave | (for om) |
| 14:24.43 | Zorkman | Daenyth; I only had to instal the app and it worked... I can even connect to WPA2 withough making my own wpa_sup |
| 14:24.45 | XorA | Dave: explain |
| 14:24.46 | Dave | Daenath, still that? |
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| 14:24.58 | Zorkman | Daenyth: thre is a version 0 |
| 14:25.01 | hipitihop | XorA, thanks for trying, will call it a day then. |
| 14:25.03 | Zorkman | 0.3 availbale i think |
| 14:25.06 | Torikun | Check out the openmoko discussed at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_and_Open_Source_Technology_Podcast_Episode_8 |
| 14:25.10 | Daenyth | Zorkman: I'll try that |
| 14:25.13 | Dave | Xora, there's a dist feed package which REPLACES your opkg feed conf |
| 14:25.16 | Dave | It keeps changing |
| 14:25.32 | Dave | and every two weeks or so when there appears to be an update for it, there are bad / fuckedup feeds in it |
| 14:25.33 | XorA | I changed it a couple of weeks back to fix the my-distribution.org problem |
| 14:25.41 | Dave | yeah, that was retarded :) |
| 14:25.51 | XorA | blames FSO people for that one |
| 14:26.08 | Dave | but the most recent one thinks there's a fic-* dir in daily-feed, which there (no longer?) is not |
| 14:26.09 | XorA | but I havent changed it since then |
| 14:26.11 | Dave | haha |
| 14:26.26 | Dave | well there's one or two non-existant feeds in it |
| 14:26.31 | Dave | :) |
| 14:26.43 | Dave | though that my.distribution.com was terrible |
| 14:26.52 | XorA | yeah, the fic-gta02 is a valid arch, but not a feed |
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| 14:26.59 | Dave | right |
| 14:27.00 | XorA | does it make opkg bail, or just a warning? |
| 14:27.14 | Dave | well it fails to get packages |
| 14:27.24 | hipitihop | waves goodnight |
| 14:27.24 | Dave | opkg still works but it's rather disconcerting |
| 14:27.30 | Dave | By Hippityhop :) |
| 14:27.38 | XorA | well if its just a warning Im inclined to ignore it |
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| 14:28.03 | Dave | Okay |
| 14:28.08 | white_gecko | how can i unpack a .ipkg? |
| 14:28.18 | white_gecko | i've tried .ipkg.tar.gz |
| 14:28.27 | white_gecko | but i doesn't seam to work |
| 14:28.29 | Dave | bumble I like how in this room my HDOP is 23.0 :D |
| 14:28.43 | bumbl | XorA: is it planned that opkg gets error messages that make sense? |
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| 14:28.57 | XorA | bumbl: I hope so |
| 14:29.03 | Dave | Very little about opkg makes sense. |
| 14:29.04 | XorA | bumbl: file bugs if you feel they are wrong |
| 14:29.13 | Dave | Xora, who maintains opkg anyway? |
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| 14:29.19 | Dave | I sent complaints, is anyone alive there? |
| 14:29.53 | Dave | It's been months, and I'm ready to come after them with pitchforks and torches :) |
| 14:29.57 | Daenyth | I still can't do it |
| 14:30.00 | Daenyth | cairo error still |
| 14:30.16 | Dave | :\ |
| 14:30.19 | Daenyth | let me just install python-pycairo* |
| 14:30.25 | Daenyth | maybe I need the -dev or something |
| 14:30.41 | Dave | Daenyth, what is this all about anyway? |
| 14:30.49 | Daenyth | Dave: I can't start mofi |
| 14:31.05 | white_gecko | Daenyth: i have the same problem with pyPenNotes |
| 14:31.09 | white_gecko | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/PyPenNotes |
| 14:31.15 | Daenyth | white_gecko: I'll let you know if I get it up |
| 14:31.15 | Dave | oh, right :p |
| 14:31.23 | Dave | oh yeah, xournal |
| 14:31.28 | Dave | Has that been merged yet? |
| 14:31.35 | white_gecko | cool |
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| 14:31.46 | Torikun | Dave ! |
| 14:31.51 | Dave | \o/ |
| 14:31.57 | Dave | Welcome... back :P |
| 14:32.02 | Torikun | ty =) |
| 14:32.11 | Dave | join #openmoko-offtopic :P |
| 14:32.23 | Torikun | I discussed the phone on my show this weekend....not so good reviews for the poor phone |
| 14:32.34 | Dave | aww |
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| 14:32.36 | Zorkman | your show? |
| 14:32.39 | Dave | That's depressing. |
| 14:32.44 | Dave | Zorkman, yeah, see, he's cooler than you! |
| 14:32.44 | Dave | :P |
| 14:32.53 | Torikun | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Linux_and_Open_Source_Technology_Podcast_Episode_8 |
| 14:33.16 | Dave | Episode Eight!? |
| 14:33.26 | Torikun | Yup |
| 14:33.30 | Torikun | Alarm is crashing my dam phone |
| 14:33.57 | Dave | uh oh |
| 14:34.05 | Dave | That can't be good for publicity :p |
| 14:34.21 | Torikun | I am gonna buy the dam android |
| 14:34.21 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:34.24 | Dave | I should make a reality show. |
| 14:34.28 | Torikun | hahaah |
| 14:34.29 | Dave | Openmoko Exposure |
| 14:34.31 | Torikun | Live with Moko |
| 14:34.34 | Dave | I've already tried it 3 times |
| 14:34.35 | Torikun | *Life with moko |
| 14:34.47 | Dave | Give some random noob a freerunner and a set of instructions (I wrote) |
| 14:34.51 | Torikun | In SF, they are starting a openmoko group |
| 14:35.00 | Dave | Then watch them squirm and struggle, and then go insane. |
| 14:35.01 | Dave | :D |
| 14:35.10 | Torikun | i joined |
| 14:35.10 | Dave | From flashing, to uboot, to opkg, to upgrades |
| 14:35.11 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:35.11 | Dave | :D |
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| 14:35.24 | Torikun | The instinct looks good |
| 14:35.29 | Dave | Torikun, yeah, there's a meeting the second or something |
| 14:35.34 | Dave | I hope to attend :) |
| 14:35.38 | Torikun | your in SF? |
| 14:35.41 | Dave | since I'll be in the city on the first |
| 14:35.48 | Dave | I will be, in a week :P |
| 14:35.53 | Torikun | what you doing in my town |
| 14:35.54 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:35.58 | Dave | YOUR town!? |
| 14:36.05 | Torikun | I just moved here lol not my town |
| 14:36.05 | Dave | actually, SF isn't my town, PA is >:) |
| 14:36.08 | Dave | :p |
| 14:36.10 | Dave | noob :D |
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| 14:36.33 | Torikun | Lets do lunch dave |
| 14:36.58 | Zorkman | awww, nobody ever comes to belgium :( :-D |
| 14:37.00 | Torikun | I work between the homless man and the homeless man with a funny sign |
| 14:37.10 | Dave | hehe |
| 14:37.20 | Dave | :D |
| 14:37.22 | XorA | Zorkman: what do you mean, we were all there for FOSDEM |
| 14:37.23 | Dave | wow, SO specific |
| 14:37.30 | Dave | hah |
| 14:38.00 | Torikun | Zorkman: I ate some imported Belgium Chocolate yesterday |
| 14:38.08 | Torikun | delicious |
| 14:38.14 | Zorkman | :) |
| 14:38.23 | XorA | prefers the beer |
| 14:38.38 | Dave | :) |
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| 14:38.47 | Zorkman | is on the phone |
| 14:38.56 | Zorkman | the beer is indeed better |
| 14:38.59 | Zorkman | :) |
| 14:39.02 | Dave | better than waffles? |
| 14:39.05 | Dave | :p |
| 14:39.29 | Torikun | Belgium Chocolate covered Belguim Waffles |
| 14:39.41 | Dave | :D~~ |
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| 14:40.11 | TAsn-orderedmoko | what does moko stand for? |
| 14:40.27 | TAsn-orderedmoko | mobile what? |
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| 14:40.53 | white_gecko | Daenyth: this is my error output: http://paste.debian.net/15556/ |
| 14:40.56 | Dave | mokomofos |
| 14:41.16 | Daenyth | white_gecko: same |
| 14:41.20 | Dave | Torikun do we have an acronym for openmoko meeting groups yet? |
| 14:41.22 | Daenyth | ok |
| 14:41.22 | Dave | like LUG :p |
| 14:41.26 | Daenyth | I installed pycairo and -dev |
| 14:41.29 | Daenyth | let's see.. |
| 14:41.34 | Torikun | Dunno |
| 14:41.36 | Dave | MUG? |
| 14:41.39 | Dave | hah |
| 14:41.41 | Daenyth | fails still |
| 14:41.41 | Torikun | Dave: Are you moving to SF ? |
| 14:41.45 | Dave | No |
| 14:41.46 | Torikun | or visiting |
| 14:41.49 | Dave | eh? |
| 14:41.50 | Sargun_screen | SF is decent. |
| 14:41.56 | Torikun | SF = scary |
| 14:41.56 | Dave | It's nice |
| 14:41.59 | Dave | haha |
| 14:42.00 | Daenyth | white_gecko: the fact that pycairo is installed but not working makes me think that it's python's version of @INC |
| 14:42.04 | Dave | Scary if you're straight ;p |
| 14:42.05 | Sargun_screen | Torikun: How is SF Scary? |
| 14:42.08 | Dave | giggles |
| 14:42.14 | Torikun | do you live here in SF Sargun_screen |
| 14:42.20 | Dave | Pesky Sarguns |
| 14:42.22 | Sargun_screen | Torikun: nearby. |
| 14:42.36 | Torikun | I live in Walnut Creek and work in S |
| 14:42.38 | Dave | We should all have a BBQ at my place sometime. |
| 14:42.39 | Torikun | F |
| 14:42.40 | Sargun_screen | East Bay |
| 14:42.43 | white_gecko | Daenyth: aha what is @INC? i did never write in python |
| 14:42.52 | Sargun_screen | Dave: Ok, you pay for Beer, BBQ, etc... |
| 14:43.01 | Daenyth | white_gecko: it's like $PATH for modules (in perl). python must have something similar |
| 14:43.03 | Dave | uhhh, no |
| 14:43.04 | Torikun | I don't know any good bars |
| 14:43.10 | Dave | You guys have to contribute SOMETHING |
| 14:43.13 | Torikun | where in the easyt bay Sargun_screen? |
| 14:43.17 | Dave | other than your wonderful presence and freerunners |
| 14:43.18 | Dave | :P |
| 14:43.22 | Sargun_screen | Dave: What about our livers? |
| 14:43.26 | Dave | haha |
| 14:43.30 | Dave | Are they belgian? |
| 14:43.34 | Sargun_screen | Torikun: Uhm, tri-valley. |
| 14:43.35 | Torikun | We can go to starbucs Dave Sargun_screen |
| 14:43.42 | Dave | fuck that |
| 14:43.52 | Sargun_screen | I work in SJC. |
| 14:43.59 | Torikun | SJC? |
| 14:44.00 | Dave | oh snaps : |
| 14:44.01 | Torikun | what is that |
| 14:44.02 | Dave | :p |
| 14:44.06 | Dave | The airport... |
| 14:44.07 | Sargun_screen | San Jose City? |
| 14:44.07 | Torikun | <--new to CA |
| 14:44.11 | Dave | ;p |
| 14:44.19 | Sargun_screen | Downstown San Jose |
| 14:44.22 | Dave | Torikun, where did you move from, I forget |
| 14:44.29 | Torikun | Longmont, CO |
| 14:44.30 | Dave | Sargun, do you like planes? |
| 14:44.36 | Dave | Torikun MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 14:44.40 | Torikun | San Jose City ? |
| 14:44.42 | white_gecko | Daenyth: |
| 14:44.43 | white_gecko | # opkg list_installed |�grep -e cairo |
| 14:44.43 | Sargun_screen | Dave: they are alright, why? |
| 14:44.45 | white_gecko | -sh: �grep: not found |
| 14:44.48 | Torikun | not just SJ ? |
| 14:44.56 | Dave | Sargun, we have a RC group in SJ |
| 14:45.04 | Daenyth | white_gecko: you have some unicode in there ;P |
| 14:45.08 | Dave | meets occasionally, I like going down there to watch some friends fly :) |
| 14:45.23 | Dave | and occasionally watch something explode :p |
| 14:45.25 | white_gecko | Deanyth i thougt i use only unicode |
| 14:45.32 | Dave | speaking of explosions... |
| 14:45.35 | Dave | rescues his freerunner |
| 14:45.40 | Daenyth | sorry, I misspoke |
| 14:45.41 | Torikun | Dave the meeting for openmoko is tommorow night right? |
| 14:45.43 | Daenyth | .grep isn't a command |
| 14:45.48 | Dave | Tomorrow? |
| 14:45.50 | Dave | I have no clue |
| 14:46.14 | Sargun_screen | Dave: RC? Remote control? |
| 14:46.31 | white_gecko | Daenyth: http://paste.debian.net/15557/ |
| 14:46.33 | Torikun | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.33 | Torikun | >> PariSoma.com |
| 14:46.33 | Torikun | >> 1436 Howard St. @ 10th St |
| 14:46.33 | Torikun | >> (SF SOMA district, near Civic Center BART) |
| 14:46.37 | Sargun_screen | SOMA! |
| 14:46.56 | Dave | Sargun, yes |
| 14:47.03 | Dave | Yeah I thought it was the second |
| 14:47.04 | Torikun | Sargun_screen: Is civic center safe area? |
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| 14:47.13 | Dave | haha, yes |
| 14:47.23 | Dave | Torikun, why don't you just go outside and find out for yourself :P |
| 14:47.24 | Dave | ;) |
| 14:47.26 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:47.29 | Dave | sissy |
| 14:47.31 | ieatlint | today is aug 25 |
| 14:47.32 | Torikun | most of this city has high crime Dave |
| 14:47.33 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:47.35 | Dave | LINT |
| 14:47.35 | Torikun | I want to live |
| 14:47.36 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:47.37 | ieatlint | it's a week from tomorrow |
| 14:47.40 | Sargun_screen | Torikun: Downtown oakland is the safest area. |
| 14:47.44 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:47.45 | ieatlint | and civic centre is reasonably safe |
| 14:47.45 | Dave | Torikun, then don't go down to EPA |
| 14:47.46 | Dave | :P |
| 14:47.53 | Dave | smirks at ieatlint |
| 14:48.00 | ieatlint | Torikun, sargun is right, especially in the southern parts on international avenue |
| 14:48.03 | Sargun_screen | You should just hang out there, roll down your windows, wear some bling, etc... |
| 14:48.03 | ieatlint | hey dave :) |
| 14:48.11 | Torikun | by a reputation for being one of the more popular parts of the city for the homeless and the drug addicted |
| 14:48.21 | ieatlint | wear red |
| 14:48.27 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:48.30 | Sargun_screen | A red scarf. |
| 14:48.32 | Dave | don't get got, yo! |
| 14:48.41 | Sargun_screen | Cover your face. |
| 14:48.48 | ieatlint | yeah, civic center is pretty damned safe |
| 14:48.49 | Torikun | ha ah a |
| 14:48.56 | Sargun_screen | put your .45 on the dash. |
| 14:48.58 | Dave | unless you're crippin' it up? |
| 14:48.59 | ieatlint | the federal building is there, and city hall is half a block away |
| 14:49.00 | Torikun | WIki says different |
| 14:49.15 | Sargun_screen | Torikun: Oh, Wiki is wrong. |
| 14:49.16 | Dave | and Ieatlint is pretty close too :P |
| 14:49.26 | ieatlint | i live in sf, but on the other side of the city |
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| 14:49.34 | Dave | >:) |
| 14:49.38 | Torikun | <--accross the bay for safety |
| 14:49.39 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:49.40 | Dave | Watch out, I might show up. |
| 14:49.41 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03texitoi 07zhone * r4a13c7491709 10/src/zhone: set self.willSuspend to False at the creation of the class |
| 14:49.41 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03info 07zhone * rc78809baf07f 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Inserted a new menu on the bottom left icon. There you can find the exit button, where you can shutdown the system. |
| 14:49.42 | Dave | haha |
| 14:49.42 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03info 07zhone * r54ffd730136a 10/src/zhone: Add a link for taking a screenshot and uploading it to scap. You have 5 seconds to go to the page you want a screenshot of. |
| 14:49.43 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe 07zhone * r9b62f2867303 10/src/zhone: (log message trimmed) |
| 14:49.45 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: the python edje bindings already encode to utf-8 |
| 14:49.47 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: The old code breaks on systems where the python default encoding is not utf-8 |
| 14:49.49 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: (check the default encoding with sys.getdefaultencoding()). Debian and Gentoo |
| 14:49.51 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: have acsii as the default codec. So we need do explicitly encode and decode, |
| 14:49.53 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: but at the right place (which is in the python bindings for edje in this case). |
| 14:49.55 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: In OE we have a patch for python-edje which handles this, i'm trying to get |
| 14:49.58 | ieatlint | Torikun, you actually in oakland? hehe |
| 14:50.07 | Torikun | walnut crek ieatlint, hell no oakland |
| 14:50.08 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:50.14 | Dave | LAWL |
| 14:50.14 | ieatlint | ah, hehe, ok |
| 14:50.14 | Sargun_screen | Torikun: What do you think? |
| 14:50.25 | Torikun | Sargun_screen: about? |
| 14:50.42 | Dave | I wonder if we can get an openmoko group together in NYC.. |
| 14:51.02 | ieatlint | the places of sf to avoid are in the southeastern part of the city |
| 14:51.06 | ieatlint | bayview, for instance |
| 14:51.11 | Torikun | HP |
| 14:51.12 | ieatlint | mission is sketchy at night |
| 14:51.14 | Torikun | SOMA |
| 14:51.14 | Dave | lint, but they're the FUN parts! |
| 14:51.17 | wurp2|working | Was someone looking for me? My irssi session was flagged, but I don't see my nick in the last 10 pages or so :-) |
| 14:51.17 | Torikun | HP SOMA |
| 14:51.20 | ieatlint | tenderloin you'll get mugged, but not killed |
| 14:51.23 | ieatlint | (at night) |
| 14:51.27 | Torikun | Most of SF is bad lol |
| 14:51.34 | ieatlint | Torikun, hardly |
| 14:51.38 | Dave | wurp2, we were just tracking you via tangogps and laughing |
| 14:51.45 | Dave | you had several frequent trips to africa ;) |
| 14:51.45 | ieatlint | i live in probably one of the safest neighbourhoods in the country |
| 14:51.54 | Torikun | pacifica? |
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| 14:51.58 | Dave | ieatlint, it's not irvine ;) |
| 14:52.00 | ieatlint | if you're north of geary, you're in a safe place |
| 14:52.10 | ieatlint | sunset is safe, richmond safe |
| 14:52.18 | Torikun | Richmond is bad 2 I hear |
| 14:52.19 | ieatlint | (note city of richmond != the richmond) |
| 14:52.26 | Dave | :P |
| 14:52.42 | Dave | So, come to EPA and you won't get mugged, but you will get shot (and then possibly mugged) :P |
| 14:52.48 | Dave | laughs |
| 14:52.51 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:52.51 | ieatlint | castro is safe... large parts of soma sketchy a night... hehe |
| 14:52.57 | Dave | Castro \o/ |
| 14:53.04 | Dave | castro is nice |
| 14:53.16 | Zorkman | :) |
| 14:53.28 | ieatlint | it is, but it gets fucking hot during the summer |
| 14:53.34 | Dave | yeah so |
| 14:53.40 | Dave | IT IS FUCKING HOT, IT'S SUMMER |
| 14:53.40 | Torikun | anyone work near the Giants stadium? |
| 14:53.42 | ieatlint | anyway, most of san francisco is safe :P |
| 14:53.53 | Dave | Lint, come down south |
| 14:53.57 | ieatlint | there are some bad places, of course, but they're easy to avoid |
| 14:53.59 | Dave | we'll play on a different territory >:) |
| 14:54.08 | ieatlint | Dave, i'm familiar enough with epa ;) |
| 14:54.14 | Dave | heh heh |
| 14:54.24 | Dave | I'm trying to convince torikun to come down there :P |
| 14:54.32 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:54.37 | ieatlint | i love how you cross the freeway and go from ghetto to middle class |
| 14:54.42 | Dave | you're going down the 101 and like OH SHIT, I TOOK THE WRONG EXIT |
| 14:54.42 | Torikun | lmfao |
| 14:54.45 | Dave | (I hope I don't die) |
| 14:54.48 | Torikun | i did that in oaklnd |
| 14:54.48 | white_gecko | Daenyth: doesn't everybody with openmoko have this problem? |
| 14:54.49 | Dave | :D |
| 14:54.52 | ieatlint | and when i say ghetto, i mean really ghetto |
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| 14:55.03 | ieatlint | like hearing gunshots every night |
| 14:55.08 | nomeata | kristian-m: ping |
| 14:55.08 | Dave | huhu |
| 14:55.12 | Dave | dude |
| 14:55.19 | ieatlint | and seeing a bunch of people driving around in old cadillacs that they've tried to mod |
| 14:55.24 | rwhitby-tokyo | morning |
| 14:55.27 | Dave | you can't live in EPA and NOT own several guns, I think it's a rule... |
| 14:55.32 | Torikun | Going from montgomery to Japan town is a trip |
| 14:55.33 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:55.38 | Dave | haha or bicycles, lint :P |
| 14:55.46 | Dave | Hello Rod :) |
| 14:56.11 | ieatlint | japan town is on the edge of the western addition... that's a sketchy place at night |
| 14:56.14 | ieatlint | fine during the day |
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| 14:56.24 | ieatlint | falls into the mugged but not killed category |
| 14:56.26 | Dave | this kid roles up next to my ride on his bike with the tall handlebars, his foh-five flashin from his belt... |
| 14:56.43 | Dave | I just smirk at him, and drive off, after an awkward two minute red |
| 14:56.48 | Dave | :p |
| 14:57.15 | ieatlint | anyway, the trick to not getting killed is to not piss them off :P |
| 14:57.18 | Daenyth | white_gecko: apparantly not? I don't know. I have a buildhost 2007.2 daily from yesterday, kernel and rootfs |
| 14:57.44 | ceda | are the mailing lists down? |
| 14:57.46 | Dave | ieatlint, well, I'm sure driving a cheaper car might help :P |
| 14:57.58 | Dave | It's a bit uncomfortable when you're driving a 45k ride :p |
| 14:58.04 | Torikun | lol |
| 14:58.04 | ieatlint | Dave, it helps you from getting car jacked :P |
| 14:58.05 | Dave | and you've got the top down |
| 14:58.12 | Dave | yeh |
| 14:58.20 | Dave | but hey, I'm down with 'em, right? |
| 14:58.20 | ieatlint | but they're not going to want to shoot you and get blood all over a car they want to steal |
| 14:58.21 | white_gecko | hm i've just made a opkg upgrade, but have theproblem since i have the phone ;-) (last thursday) |
| 14:58.21 | Dave | (down on the ground?) :x |
| 14:58.28 | Dave | hahaha, true, true |
| 14:58.32 | Dave | they'd make me get out, first |
| 14:58.33 | Dave | :P |
| 14:58.40 | Torikun | Dave Sargun_screen ieatlint lets all have lunch September 2nd |
| 14:58.41 | Dave | hey, at least I had the doors locked, right? :P |
| 14:58.44 | Torikun | before the metting |
| 14:58.52 | Dave | Let's get met! |
| 14:59.03 | ieatlint | hah, ok |
| 14:59.08 | Dave | I *may* be able to make it. |
| 14:59.11 | rwhitby-tokyo | So there really is no GSM available at all in Tokyo. Treo 650 can't get a signal. |
| 14:59.16 | Torikun | any good location? I go to lunch at 11 |
| 14:59.19 | ieatlint | but you'd best feel regret that i've been pulled from programming for this conversation :P |
| 14:59.21 | rwhitby-tokyo | (therefore no Neo can get a signal either) |
| 14:59.23 | Dave | rwhitby-tokyo, of course |
| 14:59.31 | Dave | CDMA 4 realz, yo |
| 14:59.34 | Torikun | rwhitby-tokyo: You live in Tokyo? I used to live there, miss it =( |
| 14:59.41 | rwhitby-tokyo | DoCoMo rules here |
| 14:59.46 | Dave | ieatlint, oh noes! |
| 14:59.48 | rwhitby-tokyo | Torikun: just visiting |
| 14:59.55 | Torikun | rwhitby-tokyo: Softbank = fail |
| 15:00.00 | Dave | heh |
| 15:00.06 | Torikun | Docomo really is the best |
| 15:00.07 | *** join/#openmoko bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-85-70.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 15:00.13 | Torikun | or AU |
| 15:00.15 | Dave | :) |
| 15:00.16 | Torikun | Docomo was more expensive |
| 15:00.18 | Dave | hah AU |
| 15:00.25 | Dave | But win |
| 15:00.34 | Dave | silly torikun |
| 15:00.38 | Dave | want to have dinner in tokyo? |
| 15:00.46 | *** join/#openmoko Zoup_ (n=Zoup@91.98.73.168) |
| 15:00.46 | Dave | I'll be there in october :P |
| 15:00.46 | rwhitby-tokyo | Torikun: is AU a pun on "Hey You" ? |
| 15:00.49 | ieatlint | well, i retreat to my code |
| 15:00.52 | Torikun | I am not going ot japan untill next summer |
| 15:00.52 | Torikun | lol |
| 15:00.54 | Zoup_ | any has any screenshot of Zhone ? |
| 15:00.56 | Dave | boo |
| 15:01.01 | Dave | zoup, there's some on scap |
| 15:01.08 | Dave | ieatlint: excellent. |
| 15:01.19 | Dave | cracks his whip, Indiana Jones style |
| 15:01.20 | rwhitby-tokyo | Dave: I'm here for 3 nights only |
| 15:01.25 | Dave | Rod :( |
| 15:01.28 | Zoup_ | Dave: Security Certification and Authorization Package ? :) |
| 15:01.34 | Dave | Oh well, hope you enjoy yourself, nonetheless. |
| 15:01.46 | Dave | scap.linuxtogo.org ? |
| 15:01.50 | Dave | :p |
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| 15:01.55 | rwhitby-tokyo | s'ok, I've been here a number of times before for longer periods. |
| 15:01.58 | ceda | weird, evolution just started feeling like marking all incoming mail as read :P |
| 15:02.13 | Dave | I actually no longer prefer the city, unless I'm visitng friends/family. |
| 15:02.25 | Dave | I guess I miss the countryside more. |
| 15:02.37 | Dave | :( |
| 15:02.39 | Torikun | I wish I lived in the city |
| 15:02.46 | Torikun | 1:20 min toget to work sucks |
| 15:03.05 | Torikun | walk, BART, walk |
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| 15:04.06 | Dave | hehee |
| 15:04.10 | Zoup_ | is there anyway to turn word guessing of om2008 off ? |
| 15:04.13 | Dave | Torikun, oh, in SF |
| 15:04.19 | Torikun | yup |
| 15:04.25 | Dave | one hour twenty minutes? |
| 15:04.28 | Dave | shit, that sucks :( |
| 15:04.28 | Torikun | yup |
| 15:04.34 | Torikun | I do it for my daughter |
| 15:04.36 | Torikun | =) |
| 15:04.39 | Dave | I was so glad after they made a Bullet that went from PA to SF |
| 15:04.42 | Dave | aww :) |
| 15:04.53 | Dave | Good for you! |
| 15:04.59 | Dave | and for Openmoko, right? ;) |
| 15:05.03 | Torikun | huh? |
| 15:05.04 | Torikun | lol |
| 15:05.04 | Dave | giggles |
| 15:05.12 | Dave | For the Freerunner! |
| 15:05.45 | Dave | Man, I totally had a vision of attending an openmoko convention and killing/absorbing all the freerunners, for THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! |
| 15:05.53 | Dave | With each addition I gain more power? |
| 15:06.01 | Dave | Man, I wonder what that would do to my clock speed... |
| 15:06.29 | Dave | hides from himself. |
| 15:07.21 | *** join/#openmoko qknight (n=joachim@serverkommune.de) |
| 15:07.46 | swc|666 | what is the URI for openstreetmap.org for map downloads? |
| 15:08.07 | Dave | huwahahahaha I can totally see it now... |
| 15:08.08 | wurp2|working | swc|666: Did you search the wiki? |
| 15:08.11 | Dave | swc, it's on the tango site |
| 15:08.12 | qknight | swc|666: see the wiki |
| 15:08.12 | swc|666 | yep |
| 15:08.13 | Torikun | anyone in SF want to be a guest star on my podcast? |
| 15:08.18 | Torikun | talk about openmoko |
| 15:08.20 | Torikun | or linux |
| 15:08.21 | Dave | torikun, you're SO lame... |
| 15:08.35 | wurp2|working | swc|666: Did you use google "site:wiki.openmoko.org term1 term2 ..." |
| 15:08.35 | Dave | PLANE CRASH CAUSED BY NEO FREERUNNER |
| 15:08.36 | *** join/#openmoko t_s_o (n=tso@173.84-49-129.nextgentel.com) |
| 15:08.38 | wurp2|working | ? |
| 15:08.39 | *** join/#openmoko qhartman (n=qhartman@74.93.188.113) |
| 15:08.39 | swc|666 | i tried - http://a.tah.openstreetmap.org/Tiles/tile.php/%d/%d/%d.png and get a 404 error(???) |
| 15:08.44 | munga2 | what is better mofi , lint-wifi or the stock wifi config aplication (that I haven't managed to configure yet...) |
| 15:08.45 | wurp2|working | 'cause the wiki search page is teh suck |
| 15:08.50 | Dave | Take that, TI! |
| 15:08.56 | Dave | wurp, yeah it is |
| 15:09.04 | wurp2|working | swc|666: replace %ds with lat/long min & max |
| 15:09.05 | Dave | heh |
| 15:09.12 | swc|666 | i did.. nada |
| 15:09.17 | Dave | it works fine |
| 15:09.19 | qknight | what microSD card should i buy? i want 8GB |
| 15:09.29 | Dave | a.tah? |
| 15:09.43 | wurp2|working | Dave: so you guys were tracking my tango loc and mocking my gps-turned-offedness? |
| 15:09.55 | bumbl | ./install debian exits with the error message E: Internal error: install |
| 15:10.01 | bumbl | how can I resolve this |
| 15:10.05 | swc|666 | Dave: thats the URI on tango's site |
| 15:10.52 | Torikun | wants to put archlinux on the openmoko |
| 15:11.12 | Dave | swc, tango works with osm by default (that is, you don't have to add the respository manually) |
| 15:11.27 | *** join/#openmoko rcxdude (n=rcxdude@host86-144-204-236.range86-144.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:11.29 | Dave | wurp2, something like that, yeah - Well, more accurately, Zorkman was |
| 15:11.35 | Zorkman | swc|666: the url is http://tile.openstreetmaps.org/%d/%d/%d.png |
| 15:11.35 | fish_ | why? "DO NOT USE buildhost.openmoko.org TO UPGRADE 2008.8 IT WILL NEVER EVER WORK" |
| 15:11.37 | ceda | qknight: there's a list on the wiki with known working manufacturers |
| 15:11.43 | *** join/#openmoko hanez (n=hanez@d088030.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 15:11.46 | Dave | wurp2, we basically just used it as a position to argue that 0,0 should be an invalid point |
| 15:11.53 | swc|666 | Zorkman: thanks! |
| 15:12.13 | Dave | Who here lives in the desert? or a warzone in the african congo? |
| 15:12.14 | |Marco| | is qte-mt-static EVER going to get fixed for bitbake ? |
| 15:12.17 | Dave | heh heh |
| 15:13.06 | rwhitby-tokyo | fish_: cause it builds from org.openmoko.dev instead of org.openmoko.asu.* |
| 15:13.07 | |Marco| | it's the ONLY package that's killing every atempt at compiling anythong whatsoever |
| 15:13.15 | |Marco| | GAH |
| 15:13.43 | fish_ | rwhitby-tokyo: so "http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080824/openmoko-devel-image-om-gta02.jffs2" is FSO? |
| 15:13.46 | munga2 | how can I check if my gps has locked a position ? |
| 15:13.53 | rwhitby-tokyo | fish_: correct. |
| 15:14.03 | Dave | wtf? |
| 15:14.09 | Torikun | I am thinking about putting debian |
| 15:14.10 | Dave | that's FSO? |
| 15:14.15 | Torikun | I here goo things |
| 15:14.24 | rwhitby-tokyo | fish_: sorry, not FSO, not ASU either |
| 15:14.28 | Dave | I hear dead people. |
| 15:14.29 | fish_ | rwhitby-tokyo: uhm.. i dont get that.. so is FSO the _official_ future of openmoko?! |
| 15:14.34 | Dave | rwhitby, that's what I thought! |
| 15:14.36 | fish_ | rwhitby-tokyo: ah okay |
| 15:14.41 | Bill_ | um.. that looke like 2007.2 last time i flashed it |
| 15:14.43 | rwhitby-tokyo | fish_: I misread your question |
| 15:14.44 | Dave | it is |
| 15:14.45 | Torikun | I thought ASU is the future |
| 15:14.47 | Bill_ | and that was about an hour ago ) |
| 15:14.49 | Bill_ | :) |
| 15:14.51 | Dave | fuck ASU |
| 15:14.56 | rwhitby-tokyo | buildhost has *no* useful images or updates for FSO or ASU |
| 15:15.03 | Torikun | how much space is needed for debian |
| 15:15.06 | Dave | someone should combine our 7 1/2 images and create a monster mash image! |
| 15:15.12 | Dave | torikun a million megabytes! |
| 15:15.16 | Torikun | lol |
| 15:15.18 | rwhitby-tokyo | Dave: why the hostility towards a piece of software? |
| 15:15.19 | *** join/#openmoko daMaestro (n=jon@fedora/damaestro) |
| 15:15.28 | Dave | Come on, my name is Dave, right? ;) |
| 15:15.30 | Torikun | dave is having fun rwhitby-tokyo |
| 15:15.42 | Dave | I hate compute programs that try to ruin my life :P |
| 15:15.46 | fish_ | rwhitby-tokyo: so what images are those?! |
| 15:15.49 | Dave | Particularly those starting with hal. |
| 15:15.56 | Torikun | lol |
| 15:15.57 | rwhitby-tokyo | fish_: builds of org.openmoko.dev |
| 15:16.01 | Zorkman | Torikun: someone was able to put it on internal flash |
| 15:16.06 | ShellEvil | Anyone happen to have dimensions of the |
| 15:16.07 | Torikun | I want kde 4.1 !!! |
| 15:16.09 | ShellEvil | FR battery around? |
| 15:16.13 | Bill_ | dave probably has a painful and universe altering experience with dselect from days way back |
| 15:16.18 | Bill_ | i know.. i do.. |
| 15:16.18 | Zorkman | Torikun: it also fits on the 512 SD |
| 15:16.22 | Torikun | sweet |
| 15:16.23 | ShellEvil | I'd guess 9mm*37mm*50mm? |
| 15:16.24 | Dave | evil, want me to take measurements right now? |
| 15:16.31 | fish_ | rwhitby-tokyo: well, i thought org.openmoko.dev would be the FSO image |
| 15:16.33 | XorA | ~curse google |
| 15:16.34 | apt | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, google ! |
| 15:16.34 | Torikun | Zorkman: is it a desktop? |
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| 15:16.42 | Dave | eww |
| 15:16.45 | XorA | why is google maps mobile latest version a massive downgrade |
| 15:16.45 | Dave | Xora :p |
| 15:16.50 | Dave | haha |
| 15:17.10 | rwhitby-tokyo | wonders when google will have tokyo maps with english translations ... |
| 15:17.20 | Dave | aww |
| 15:17.23 | Dave | poor rod |
| 15:17.35 | XorA | well now Im pissed off, there seems to be no way to use GPS on latest GMM :-( |
| 15:17.40 | rwhitby-tokyo | luckily OSM has some major roads, but far less than I expected as far as OSM coverage goes |
| 15:17.45 | Dave | Boohoo |
| 15:17.56 | bumbl | Torikun: the why don't you go and grab kde4.1 |
| 15:18.00 | Dave | Go forth minions of opensource. |
| 15:18.09 | Dave | bumble: scary |
| 15:18.25 | Dave | KDE5 - So cool it takes 5 days to build! |
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| 15:19.09 | Torikun | How can I use wifi on my openmoko? I can connect fine but not browse the web. Internet only works when I ssh in |
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| 15:19.40 | bumbl | yeah kde5 and gnome 2.54 |
| 15:19.44 | Dave | Build a browser? |
| 15:19.49 | Dave | bumble :) |
| 15:19.57 | Dave | toriken hope you have enough resources? |
| 15:20.01 | Dave | or install lynx |
| 15:20.02 | Dave | :D |
| 15:20.09 | Torikun | lol |
| 15:20.20 | Torikun | <--installs debian now |
| 15:20.27 | Torikun | gimp was crappy on the freerunner |
| 15:20.28 | Torikun | so small |
| 15:20.52 | Dave | uhh |
| 15:20.57 | Dave | GIMP is crappy on anything. |
| 15:21.03 | Dave | It's a gimp, for crying out loud. |
| 15:23.31 | Daenyth | How do I lock my screen? |
| 15:24.00 | Torikun | Daenyth: In soviet russia, screen locks you |
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| 15:24.12 | swc|666 | heh |
| 15:24.12 | Daenyth | Torikun: don't I know you? :o |
| 15:24.16 | fish_ | what do you call 2008.8? a release? --> all bugs are getting fixed. or is it more a snapshot: we don't get fixes for 2008.8, every issue will be fixed in the next snapshot or in trunk? |
| 15:24.25 | Torikun | Daenyth: do youi? |
| 15:24.26 | Torikun | lol |
| 15:24.30 | Daenyth | name looks familiar |
| 15:24.39 | Torikun | linuxaction show archlinux my podcast |
| 15:24.40 | Zorkman | he performs in pr0n |
| 15:24.42 | Torikun | linuxoutlaws |
| 15:24.48 | Daenyth | archlinux forums :p |
| 15:25.00 | malik1972 | fish_ are there bugs? |
| 15:25.00 | Daenyth | and irc |
| 15:25.03 | Daenyth | ok |
| 15:25.07 | Daenyth | time to test my sim :D |
| 15:25.34 | Torikun | Arch FTW Daenyth |
| 15:26.03 | fish_ | malik1972: nooo of course not ;) just in case there are bugs ;) |
| 15:26.25 | Daenyth | let's see how this goes :D |
| 15:26.34 | Torikun | I want arch for my freerunner |
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| 15:26.43 | Daenyth | yeah man I was thinking that |
| 15:26.50 | Daenyth | but we'd have to port pacman & co to arm |
| 15:26.51 | Torikun | how hard would it be |
| 15:26.55 | Torikun | yeagh |
| 15:27.04 | malik1972 | fish_ there is an official updated image http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ |
| 15:27.07 | Zorkman | btw:is it normal that the red led (auw key) only illuminates half of the auw key? |
| 15:27.08 | Daenyth | also it needs bash, there must be a reason it's not on the fic images |
| 15:27.17 | Torikun | I am installing debian now |
| 15:27.20 | Daenyth | Zorkman: I think mine does also |
| 15:27.23 | Daenyth | Torikun: bastard |
| 15:27.24 | Daenyth | ew |
| 15:27.36 | Daenyth | I love the new boot screen |
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| 15:27.38 | Daenyth | with the boots :p |
| 15:27.49 | malik1972 | fish_: but it doesnt change anything in general |
| 15:27.58 | Daenyth | how do I set the hostname? |
| 15:28.07 | Daenyth | to persist across reboots |
| 15:28.11 | fish_ | malik1972: :/ |
| 15:28.23 | Daenyth | om has no rc.conf :< |
| 15:28.23 | lindi- | Daenyth: grep -r `hostname` /etc |
| 15:28.27 | fish_ | malik1972: well, i just ask because i want to know the release strategy |
| 15:28.29 | Daenyth | lindi-: smart |
| 15:28.44 | fish_ | malik1972: everything looks pretty chaostic to me |
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| 15:29.22 | Daenyth | GAH wtf |
| 15:29.29 | Daenyth | my old phone won't let me do anything without the sim card |
| 15:29.32 | malik1972 | fish_: i guess everything on downloads.openmoko.org is official |
| 15:29.35 | Daenyth | not even the phone-stored address book |
| 15:29.35 | malik1972 | fish_: |
| 15:29.37 | Daenyth | what bs is that |
| 15:29.46 | fish_ | malik1972: we have all those images, there are some 'releases' for the images but everything older than 3 days is obsolete and so one.. |
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| 15:30.52 | Daenyth | where can I get unicode fonts for SMS? |
| 15:31.04 | Daenyth | some I recieved have the little boxes |
| 15:31.09 | malik1972 | fish_: yeah thats the situation |
| 15:31.10 | fish_ | malik1972: i have my freerunner since the first day of selling in .de (acctualy i had it the friday before ;)) and i didn't do anything with it beside flashing it |
| 15:31.34 | malik1972 | fish_ dont do that |
| 15:31.55 | Daenyth | how do I import contacts from my SIM card? |
| 15:31.57 | malik1972 | fish_ whats your aim? |
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| 15:32.33 | ssweeny | anyone successfully download a mms message on T-Mobile using the QTopia image? |
| 15:33.27 | fish_ | malik1972: yes, flashing it. the first thing i do every time i take out the dusty corner of my desk is flashing it with another type of image. and after playing around for about half an hour i'm so demotivated that i put it away again |
| 15:33.28 | *** part/#openmoko hernia (n=chatzill@189.120.152.161) |
| 15:33.28 | XorA | does it have GPRS support, otherwise that just wont work |
| 15:33.33 | Daenyth | anyone? I can't find it on the wiki |
| 15:34.24 | malik1972 | fish_: what do you expect of your mobile phone? |
| 15:34.51 | fish_ | malik1972: if i choose ASU/2008.8 as my platform i allways think 'well, if you put in some work here no it probably will be obsolete in the next release' because i think FSO is the future.. |
| 15:35.13 | malik1972 | fish_: are you from germany? |
| 15:35.19 | fish_ | malik1972: yep |
| 15:35.42 | Daenyth | so.. |
| 15:35.50 | Daenyth | is it not possible to import contacts from SIM? |
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| 15:37.02 | retracile | Daenyth: I've read that it 'just works', so at least in one image it's possible. |
| 15:37.06 | Daenyth | hrm |
| 15:37.16 | retracile | ... which image, and how to get it to do it, can't help ya. :/ |
| 15:37.16 | Daenyth | it doesn't work with the buildhost daily from yesterday |
| 15:37.29 | Daenyth | I can't access my old phone without the sim card in it :/ |
| 15:37.37 | Daenyth | even the phone-stored address book |
| 15:37.38 | Daenyth | so sucky |
| 15:37.51 | retracile | Daenyth: yet another reason to use an OpenSource phone.... |
| 15:37.56 | Daenyth | yup |
| 15:38.16 | Zorkman | when I'm scp'ing something to my phone over wifi the speed is onlu 45kb/s... isn't this waaay too slow? |
| 15:38.31 | Daenyth | seems so |
| 15:38.48 | Daenyth | I get at least 400, which is about the limit of my nic |
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| 15:38.55 | Zorkman | now 80kb/Sec... |
| 15:39.41 | Zorkman | does anyboy know what can cause this? |
| 15:39.48 | Daenyth | network congestion? |
| 15:39.51 | Daenyth | QOS? |
| 15:39.58 | Zorkman | no, it's the only wireless device connected |
| 15:40.10 | Zorkman | and on my host I can download up to 1.9MB/sec |
| 15:40.51 | bumbl | Daenyth: don't use the buildhost images, they are screwed |
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| 15:42.10 | Daenyth | oh |
| 15:42.11 | Daenyth | blah |
| 15:42.15 | Daenyth | what should I use then |
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| 15:44.15 | Daenyth | the download page doesn't list any other 2007 images except buildhost |
| 15:44.42 | XorA | bumbl: still screwed? I built one today seems to be working cool |
| 15:44.50 | Daenyth | yeah so far most things are working |
| 15:45.13 | bumbl | XorA: really, no the last one I tried was from last week |
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| 15:45.25 | Daenyth | bumbl: what wasn't working? |
| 15:45.26 | Daenyth | I can call out |
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| 15:47.50 | bumbl | Daenyth: nearly everything |
| 15:47.59 | bumbl | I am using fso unstable at the moment |
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| 15:49.07 | Daenyth | meh |
| 15:49.16 | Daenyth | I just want a working 2007.2 image |
| 15:49.42 | nomeata | Hi. What is Sebastian Ohlâs nickname? |
| 15:49.55 | nomeata | (if he is on IRC anywasy) |
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| 15:51.40 | Daenyth | what about the buildhost "stable" release |
| 15:51.50 | Daenyth | from april it seems |
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| 15:55.06 | flexd | wow |
| 15:55.13 | flexd | im on the phone with a Fr right now |
| 15:55.15 | flexd | and its smoking hot. |
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| 15:58.11 | theocrite | got his own neo freerunner with a personalized note saying "thanks for your efforts for to free a phone" o/ |
| 15:58.16 | theocrite | feels really special now |
| 15:58.52 | Weiss | 's FR is in the post.. |
| 15:59.44 | phrozen77 | theocrite, "for to free a phone" ?? |
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| 16:00.16 | Daenyth | which image is the most usable if buildhost images are all broken? |
| 16:00.22 | Daenyth | that leaves... debian, fso, qtopia? |
| 16:00.36 | theocrite | phrozen77: s/for to/to/ |
| 16:00.57 | XorA | heh, first time Ive dropped my FR :-) |
| 16:01.23 | Bill_ | hmh. new asu stable image out today.. but still not able to register with gsm network |
| 16:03.34 | xt | Bill_: there's an updated .so-file on the mailing list that fixed that for me |
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| 16:03.57 | Bill_ | and there is also zeckes comment not to install it :) |
| 16:04.05 | white_gecko | Daenyth: did you figure out the python thing? |
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| 16:06.33 | Bill_ | hmmh.. it just took a looooong time |
| 16:06.59 | Bill_ | http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ seems to be working 2008.8 |
| 16:07.02 | lindi- | Daenyth: images are not nice |
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| 16:15.58 | white_gecko | is it possible to upgrade to 2008.8 with opkg upgrade, or do i have to flash? |
| 16:17.12 | Bill_ | the testing and devel repos are not done yet so no |
| 16:17.53 | white_gecko | ok |
| 16:18.07 | white_gecko | and how stable is the image, wich i can flash? |
| 16:18.13 | white_gecko | on my phone |
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| 16:18.43 | lindi- | white_gecko: which image? |
| 16:18.55 | white_gecko | http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/ |
| 16:19.00 | white_gecko | the asu thing |
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| 16:20.26 | DaveOffice | moko moko moko |
| 16:20.49 | nomeata | DaveOffice: you sound like a spanish child trying to anger adults :-) |
| 16:20.51 | lindi- | white_gecko: haven't managed to build it yet :/ |
| 16:22.46 | DaveOffice | Excuse me? |
| 16:23.14 | DaveOffice | beats nomeata with a bunch of monads |
| 16:23.16 | Zorkman | Dave, what er you ding in the office? |
| 16:23.19 | Zorkman | they need you in the LAB |
| 16:23.24 | DaveOffice | I know, I know :( |
| 16:23.35 | DaveOffice | I needed to get some web work done, and I had a meeting. |
| 16:23.35 | Chox | bitches |
| 16:23.39 | DaveOffice | CHOXES |
| 16:23.44 | Chox | work to do, bbl |
| 16:24.25 | DaveOffice | bbq |
| 16:25.20 | white_gecko | lindi-: ok |
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| 16:28.48 | nicfer | with the iPhone selling at U$S200, I think that the freerunner at U$S400 can't compete |
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| 16:29.23 | DaveOffice | they aren't in competition |
| 16:29.27 | DaveOffice | and likely never will be |
| 16:29.29 | ceda | nicfer: how can non-freedom compete with freedom? |
| 16:29.29 | mickeyl | thankfully this is irrelevant :) |
| 16:29.48 | mjr | yes, irrelevant. Also, $200 my ass. But anyway. |
| 16:29.48 | nicfer | I mean, people will buy an iphone instead of the freerunner |
| 16:29.51 | Bill_ | nicfer: with 24 month lockin at 35-60¤ a month |
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| 16:30.20 | mickeyl | sure, and that's good. |
| 16:30.23 | Zorkman | nicfer: I think you do not really understand what the freerunner is about... |
| 16:30.25 | DaveOffice | heh |
| 16:30.25 | ceda | mickeyl: fso-testing at shr.bear.... should things work on that one or is that just a less unstable unstable? |
| 16:30.25 | newb | hi i want to know if anyone has had a touchscreen which stopped responding. any reason why this happens? |
| 16:30.27 | nullpuppy | yeah, the iphone isn't $200, its $200 and 2yrs |
| 16:30.28 | DaveOffice | $800 |
| 16:30.30 | nicfer | with freerunner, you'll also need to pay bills |
| 16:30.49 | mickeyl | ceda: hmm, i don't know. how is that usually on debian? |
| 16:30.54 | mickeyl | testing more unstable than unstable? |
| 16:31.10 | DaveOffice | mickel, impossible |
| 16:31.12 | mickeyl | i forgot how rwhitby-tokyo builds these things |
| 16:31.12 | nullpuppy | nicfer: sure, but with a carrier of your choice (as long its a gsm network) |
| 16:31.12 | DaveOffice | :P |
| 16:31.23 | ceda | mickeyl: stable > testing > unstable |
| 16:31.28 | nullpuppy | and no contract requirements for the phone |
| 16:31.29 | mickeyl | but right now fso goes towards stabilization again |
| 16:31.30 | DaveOffice | forgot experimental :P |
| 16:31.32 | Bill_ | nicfer: yeah.. but you can choose what and how much you use |
| 16:31.34 | mickeyl | as we're close to ms3 |
| 16:31.38 | ceda | testing has 2 weeks of "quiet time" from unstable |
| 16:31.43 | nicfer | and how can I get it in Argentina? |
| 16:31.45 | DaveOffice | mickeyl: GO GO GO |
| 16:31.46 | Zorkman | mickeyl: still on shedule? |
| 16:31.55 | mickeyl | so so |
| 16:31.56 | DaveOffice | pays mickeyl in zorkmids |
| 16:31.59 | DaveOffice | :D |
| 16:32.00 | ceda | mickeyl: ok, bluetooth will have support in kernel again then? :) |
| 16:32.01 | ceda | "Failed to open control socket: Address family not supported by protocol |
| 16:32.02 | ceda | " |
| 16:32.06 | DaveOffice | wah wah |
| 16:32.07 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 16:32.11 | mickeyl | never seen that |
| 16:32.16 | mickeyl | but i have yet to use BT on any FR |
| 16:32.21 | mickeyl | what is missing in kernel? |
| 16:32.23 | ceda | mickeyl: just run pand |
| 16:32.25 | nicfer | I don't think the providers will bring it here |
| 16:32.37 | ceda | mickeyl: or strace pand |
| 16:32.38 | mickeyl | thankfully, providers are also irrelevant |
| 16:33.22 | mickeyl | (pand) k, will do |
| 16:33.36 | ceda | it worked in MS2 |
| 16:33.36 | mickeyl | ceda: feel free to open a ticket @ trac.freesmartphone.org |
| 16:33.38 | mickeyl | oh |
| 16:33.40 | nicfer | it wouldn't be even be selled contract-free |
| 16:33.44 | ceda | will do that right away |
| 16:33.47 | mickeyl | then i'm confused |
| 16:33.54 | mickeyl | i did hardly touch any kernel config since ms2 |
| 16:33.58 | mickeyl | but ok, will take a look |
| 16:34.10 | Zorkman | nicfer: you can buy from a reseller |
| 16:34.22 | nicfer | here they call 'freed phone' to phones without contract |
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| 16:36.02 | ceda | mickeyl: hmm, am I missing modules then? |
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| 16:37.27 | nicfer | here if I bought something outside I have to pay taxes for it |
| 16:39.05 | nicfer | so, it'll result even expensiver than purchasing an iphone 3g + the 2 year contract |
| 16:39.27 | lindi- | nicfer: probably. so what? ;) |
| 16:39.58 | nicfer | here everybody will choose the iphone... |
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| 16:41.10 | Zorkman | nicfer, there are already south american FreeRunner users... |
| 16:41.32 | Zorkman | if they want the phone and can afford it they will get it; if they want an iphone, they will get an iphone, we don't care about that |
| 16:41.43 | mickeyl | frankly, if the iphone is an alternative for you, then you are not the target audience for the freerunner in the first place |
| 16:41.49 | ceda | nicfer: so let them? linux is cheaper than windows and it's not the software quality that keeps the great public paying all those money each year |
| 16:41.51 | mickeyl | right, exactly what Zorkman said |
| 16:41.57 | Zorkman | you don't hear ferari complaining about the fact that people buy more lada's than ferari's |
| 16:42.27 | DaveOffice | :p |
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| 16:44.40 | Zorkman | DaveOffice: when booted from the SD card, where can I find the internal memory? |
| 16:44.47 | DaveOffice | huh? |
| 16:44.50 | DaveOffice | Internal memory? o_O |
| 16:44.52 | DaveOffice | of what? |
| 16:45.07 | mjr | the internal nand flash, methinks |
| 16:45.10 | Zorkman | the flash of the FR |
| 16:45.15 | mjr | it was /dev/mmc* |
| 16:46.04 | Zorkman | that doesn't work mjr.. |
| 16:46.17 | Zorkman | -sh: cd: can't cd to /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 16:47.30 | Sargun | If you hypothetically didn't have NOR, how would you edit the root flash partition? |
| 16:47.41 | Zorkman | anybody: when booted from SD, how can you acces the filestructure that is on the internal flash? |
| 16:48.13 | DaveOffice | OH |
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| 16:48.26 | DaveOffice | sargun, it KNOWS |
| 16:48.31 | DaveOffice | (upb) |
| 16:48.40 | Sargun | UPB? |
| 16:48.41 | DaveOffice | Zorkman, you're on it, right? |
| 16:49.09 | Zorkman | I'm booted from the SD |
| 16:49.18 | bricode | boots up from SD card. |
| 16:49.28 | Sargun | Can you boot from SD? |
| 16:49.32 | Sargun | err, boot from USB? |
| 16:51.07 | Kurisutian | I'm considering to buy a Freerunner. But now I got stuck with the fact that android is also coming along and there might be a larger userbase there and more apps. Could somebody help me sorting out which one is actually superior? |
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| 16:51.18 | Sargun | Kurisutian, Are you a developer? |
| 16:51.57 | mjr | Zorkman, umm, you don't cd to /dev/mmcblk0. You mount /dev/mmcblk0p[something]. |
| 16:52.03 | mjr | as jffs2 |
| 16:52.03 | Kurisutian | Not really. Computer scientist but not really into developing.... |
| 16:52.15 | mjr | don't recall the partition number off hand |
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| 16:52.28 | Sargun | Kurisutian, OM is far superior for hardcore developers |
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| 16:53.18 | mjr | Kurisutian, if you want a free linux platform, get a freerunner. If you want a semi-open VM platform that happens to run Linux at the bottom, get some Android phone |
| 16:53.28 | Kurisutian | I kinda prefer to work and modify the things out there. You know taking things onto new levels of ideas. But when it comes into programming I'm kinda lost. |
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| 16:53.47 | Kurisutian | So you're saying that android is not really becoming free |
| 16:54.00 | mjr | (also, Android VM should be able to be ported on the FR _if_ the platform is ever freed enough) |
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| 16:54.14 | Kurisutian | I use Linux only here so the Linux thing was the reason that ruled out the others and left android and the freerunner |
| 16:54.28 | mjr | well, I'm saying the Android people encourage manufacturers to close up the actual android devices |
| 16:54.33 | DaveOffice | mjr, too many tentacools. |
| 16:54.42 | DaveOffice | mjr, that's assy. |
| 16:54.51 | mjr | and the Android code isn't free for now - may be later, *shrug* |
| 16:55.25 | DaveOffice | coderape |
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| 16:56.00 | DaveOffice | sweet |
| 16:56.19 | Weiss | as i understood it, for Android you get to develop applications and see the source code for the OS bits (such as the kernel, because it's GPL so they have to), but Google's core phone apps will be closed source |
| 16:56.27 | Kurisutian | my major concern is if freerunner and openmonko will survive on the market. Google has drmendous financial resources. So I would rather stick with something that has a future.... and I wasn't sure about that |
| 16:56.40 | Weiss | so you don't get to hack about with the underlying stuff and customise the core applications, and that's important to me.. |
| 16:58.02 | Kurisutian | especially if it comes to PR the freerunner kinda seems to be way below the android. At least from my subjective perspective.... that's what kinda makes me struggle with the decision... |
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| 16:58.50 | mjr | as said, if Android ever gets free enough, you can port the VM and leverage Android stuff on FR. If not, well, it's even less interesting |
| 16:59.31 | bricode | Zorkman: /dev/mtdblock6 contains my nand jffs2 filesystem. |
| 16:59.44 | DaveOffice | right |
| 16:59.52 | DaveOffice | bricode, nice |
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| 17:00.17 | Kurisutian | So what's the status of the FR right now. I've been reading a lot about the switsch to Qtopia and the development of other possible platforms. Kinda confusing right now where things gonna be at... |
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| 17:00.47 | Kurisutian | also things like the missing QWERTY or in my case a needed QWERTZ keyboard layout were mentioned... |
| 17:01.05 | ceda | Kurisutian: the hardware is set, the software isn't |
| 17:01.18 | Kurisutian | OK, I see... |
| 17:01.54 | ceda | Kurisutian: I suggest you subscribe to the devel and community lists and read them for a week |
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| 17:02.16 | ceda | it gives you a pretty good idea of what's working and what's being worked on |
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| 17:03.32 | Kurisutian | And the hardware is open as I have seen. But are there also plans for improvements in future. Just to keep up with the technology development? Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of the freerunner, I'm just concerned if it will survive and grow in future |
| 17:04.26 | mjr | there are plans for a future hardware revision; nothing major, but many small improvements |
| 17:04.42 | mjr | don't ask when |
| 17:05.27 | Kurisutian | Well, I know they're done when they're done. I won't ask that. It's great to see that there are plans. And that is what is important to me.... ;-) |
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| 17:06.37 | ceda | Kurisutian: ok. I'm not part of OM, but it looks like FSO is what everyone want's to see finished |
| 17:07.03 | Kurisutian | yeah, seemed to me like that, too |
| 17:07.47 | ceda | OM's part goal (have an open phone available to the average joe) will probably be very qtopia influenced |
| 17:07.52 | Kurisutian | Like I said my tendency was always towards the Freerunner. Even considered to get myself a NEO 1973. But the development status was kinda drawing me back |
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| 17:09.14 | ceda | mickeyl: I've run into an ISP (the largest in Sweden, TeliaSonera) that I can't get to work with FSO_GPRS |
| 17:09.35 | ceda | I have complete wvdial config scripts that I've used with two other devices |
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| 17:09.57 | ceda | (I never really got things working when starting pppd manually on the FR) |
| 17:10.08 | ceda | mickeyl: should I file a bug for that too? |
| 17:10.56 | ceda | three devices actually |
| 17:12.25 | ceda | TeliaSonera is the company that has the iPhone contract for Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark and Estonio, Latvia + Lithuania |
| 17:12.50 | ceda | it's basically two lines in a wvdial-config that separates them from the other operators: |
| 17:12.53 | ceda | Init5 = AT+CGDCONT=1,,"online.telia.se" |
| 17:12.55 | mickeyl | ceda: yes, please file a bug |
| 17:12.55 | ceda | Phone = *99***1# |
| 17:13.00 | mickeyl | ceda: please include fso logs if possible |
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| 17:15.08 | ceda | mickeyl: is logread enough? mdbus -s -l? |
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| 17:16.19 | Kurisutian | Alright, thanks for your input! I really appreciate it... kinda helps me with the decision.... ;-) |
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| 17:18.07 | mickeyl | ceda: no, better would be adding log_level=DEBUG to the subsystems |
| 17:18.25 | mickeyl | and changing log destination to syslog |
| 17:18.29 | mickeyl | or running it from the console |
| 17:18.36 | mickeyl | i need to simplify getting me logs... |
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| 17:21.00 | Torikun | wb Sargun |
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| 17:21.50 | Sargun | yup. |
| 17:23.10 | bricode | Slick. GPS fix indoors running on sdcard. |
| 17:23.27 | ceda | mickeyl: seems like a good idea. changing destination is hacking /etc/framework* ? |
| 17:23.41 | mickeyl | let me lookup a wiki page |
| 17:23.44 | mickeyl | i wrote something on that |
| 17:24.07 | ceda | changing level is documented on a mdbus page |
| 17:24.11 | mickeyl | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mdbus |
| 17:24.18 | mickeyl | there you can see how to move destination to syslog |
| 17:24.46 | ceda | ah, didn't see the last line before |
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| 17:30.03 | jucs | Hey =) |
| 17:30.26 | Torikun | Anyone in SF? Goign to the Openmoko meeting? |
| 17:31.31 | *** join/#openmoko DaveLab (n=dave@pool-141-153-244-67.mad.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:32.06 | Chox | mooses |
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| 17:32.27 | CM | saw a moose last week |
| 17:32.32 | Chox | http://www.linuxhints.info/index.php/Roku_Netflix_Player |
| 17:32.42 | Chox | in case someone is interested in Linux haxx0ring :p |
| 17:32.57 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh 07openmoko-gsoc2008 * rfe1545c0b449 10/odeviced/src/plugins/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:32.57 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 1.) Make idlenotifier low priority |
| 17:32.57 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: 2.) Input: refactor the event_q as a public member of Input class |
| 17:32.57 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: (better gc) |
| 17:32.57 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: FIXME: idlenotifer state machine transition seems to be too fast for |
| 17:32.57 | DaveLab | \o/ |
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| 17:33.01 | CIA-48 | freesmartphone.org: input plugin to handle |
| 17:33.06 | Torikun | Dave |
| 17:33.06 | Torikun | ! |
| 17:33.10 | DaveLab | Chox, and here I thought it was moose porn :( |
| 17:33.14 | Chox | aw. |
| 17:33.15 | DaveLab | Disappointment. |
| 17:33.19 | DaveLab | Torikun, hallowed. |
| 17:33.21 | Chox | more like JTAG pr0n |
| 17:33.26 | Torikun | lol |
| 17:33.26 | DaveLab | Yeah yeah, I'm back in my fucking lab now. |
| 17:33.30 | DaveLab | Are you all happy? |
| 17:33.33 | DaveLab | :p |
| 17:33.35 | CM | We are :P |
| 17:33.37 | Chox | a fucking lab? |
| 17:33.40 | DaveLab | YES |
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| 17:33.47 | ceda | hehe :) |
| 17:33.47 | DaveLab | FREERUNNER PORN |
| 17:33.59 | Chox | does it need a horny pit bull? |
| 17:34.32 | Torikun | freerunner needs to work with wifi! |
| 17:34.39 | Chox | anyway, anyone else have a Roku player? |
| 17:34.49 | ceda | Torikun: well, it does? |
| 17:35.01 | Torikun | It connetcs |
| 17:35.05 | Torikun | can not surf websites |
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| 17:35.49 | DaveLab | hlagh |
| 17:35.57 | Chox | ze Germans |
| 17:36.03 | DaveLab | Indeed |
| 17:36.20 | DaveLab | hails ieatlint |
| 17:36.22 | ceda | Torikun: on FSO M2 I've been able to do that with the minimo browser |
| 17:36.31 | DaveLab | FORCE |
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| 17:36.57 | Chox | money force alpha one power! go go! |
| 17:37.19 | Chox | er, monkey |
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| 17:39.43 | DaveLab | ~_~ |
| 17:39.44 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 17:39.45 | DaveLab | man |
| 17:39.59 | DaveLab | pesky freerunners |
| 17:40.08 | CM | Hehe |
| 17:40.38 | OMZ_Zepher | peeks back here |
| 17:40.51 | CM | ~seen ScaredyCat |
| 17:40.54 | apt | scaredycat <n=andy@net-pbx.demon.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 46d 8h 2m 15s ago, saying: 'igo stowaway polz'. |
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| 17:44.53 | Chox | ok, you bitches. see you later. |
| 17:45.00 | Chox | (bbq) |
| 17:45.27 | DaveLab | It'd be nice if we had some way to emulate a double-click |
| 17:45.37 | DaveLab | or a double click keyboard button or something |
| 17:45.38 | DaveLab | ~_~ |
| 17:45.39 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 17:45.43 | Zorkman | DaveLab: why not just doubleclick? |
| 17:45.49 | DaveLab | oops |
| 17:45.52 | DaveLab | I meant right-click ;D |
| 17:45.54 | DaveLab | heehee |
| 17:45.56 | DaveLab | silly me |
| 17:45.57 | Zorkman | :) |
| 17:46.07 | Zorkman | there are ways to do that, like in the "mines" game |
| 17:46.08 | DaveLab | or even... *shudder* a shell-toolbar button :P |
| 17:46.09 | CM | Yeah, or aux + click on the screen |
| 17:46.15 | DaveLab | wtf? |
| 17:46.21 | Zorkman | aux+click is not very handy imo |
| 17:46.32 | DaveLab | that totally doesn't work |
| 17:46.42 | Zorkman | DaveLab: : press and hold and after a while register rightclick |
| 17:46.45 | Zorkman | should be doable |
| 17:47.13 | CM | Some more hw buttons would have been nice |
| 17:47.49 | DaveLab | zorkman, who the hell is lazy lulu? |
| 17:48.03 | OMZ_Zepher | Doubleclick: Shake the freerunner |
| 17:48.03 | DaveLab | zorkman, sounds awkward and needlessly complicated |
| 17:48.08 | DaveLab | and neod already sucks enough |
| 17:48.12 | DaveLab | OMZ, fuck gestures :D |
| 17:48.16 | OMZ_Zepher | :P |
| 17:48.18 | DaveLab | We need a real solution. |
| 17:48.24 | DaveLab | other than shaken phone syndrome |
| 17:48.29 | Sargun | Ytiplr kcick |
| 17:48.31 | OMZ_Zepher | Like holding it for two seconds? |
| 17:48.31 | Sargun | Triple click |
| 17:48.35 | Zorkman | Dave: don't know, he/shyu lives right at your door :) |
| 17:48.38 | DaveLab | I can still see terrorists using freerunners though :) |
| 17:48.43 | DaveLab | Zorkman, not really |
| 17:48.44 | CM | DaveLab: Use a damn bluetooth mouse :D |
| 17:48.53 | DaveLab | CM, haha yeah, I guess -_- |
| 17:48.55 | DaveLab | boo |
| 17:49.05 | Sargun | Dave, me too. |
| 17:49.20 | DaveLab | :) |
| 17:49.49 | DaveLab | too bad, I would have liked to report my location when I was in lake ontario recently :P |
| 17:50.03 | DaveLab | I could go off shore NY and report my position :D |
| 17:50.09 | DaveLab | you guys might find that amusing |
| 17:50.26 | DaveLab | haha I see kd8ikt! |
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| 17:50.40 | DaveLab | and infoport! |
| 17:50.54 | DaveLab | uhh, zorkman |
| 17:50.57 | DaveLab | why does it show two lazy lulus |
| 17:51.57 | DaveLab | haha man this service is fucked up :D |
| 17:52.08 | DaveLab | brad, out in OR shows two tags in one? |
| 17:52.17 | DaveLab | but identical GPS coords - what's the point of that? |
| 17:52.18 | Zorkman | where is kd8ikt? |
| 17:52.37 | Zorkman | and how do you like Middlesex dave? |
| 17:52.38 | DaveLab | he's in cincinnati |
| 17:52.44 | DaveLab | oh-lame-o |
| 17:53.09 | DaveLab | holy shit, there's a ton of people in europe :O |
| 17:53.17 | DaveLab | and people apparently in the ocean, too!:D |
| 17:53.21 | CM | lol |
| 17:53.45 | Zorkman | all at wurp2|working's party :) |
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| 17:54.29 | DaveLab | ROFL |
| 17:54.45 | DaveLab | I guess we now know where all the unrepsonsive openmoko developers went |
| 17:54.58 | DaveLab | look to the left of africa |
| 17:55.02 | DaveLab | in the ocean |
| 17:55.08 | DaveLab | LOOK AT ALL THE BODIES |
| 17:55.21 | DaveLab | There's like ten people located there :X |
| 17:55.48 | OMZ_Zepher | Holy shit! openmoko kills people?! |
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| 17:57.44 | DaveLab | Aha, I found you, Zorkman :P |
| 17:57.55 | Zorkman | :) |
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| 17:58.08 | Zorkman | I still haven't mapped the other side of my road :) |
| 17:58.18 | Zorkman | but I have mapped a road to my gf :) |
| 17:58.32 | ShellEvil | amenity:? |
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| 18:03.28 | apol | i just got my openmoko and I am trying to get the usb networking |
| 18:03.44 | jucs | So, where's the problem? |
| 18:03.46 | apol | when I ssh i don't know which is the root password |
| 18:04.14 | jucs | No one at all... |
| 18:04.17 | jucs | Just leave it blank... |
| 18:04.27 | apol | :/ doesn't seem to work |
| 18:04.29 | jucs | After you logged in, you may want to change it with "passwd"^^ |
| 18:04.34 | jucs | uhm... |
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| 18:05.26 | apol | jucs: from the terminal? lets try... |
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| 18:05.53 | jucs | Yes, from the ssh-terminal... |
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| 18:06.18 | apol | jucs: I can't get it connected |
| 18:06.54 | jucs | Are you able to ping it? |
| 18:08.09 | apol | jucs: |
| 18:08.10 | apol | http://rafb.net/p/nvuY2i42.html |
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| 18:09.48 | jucs | Strange... |
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| 18:10.04 | jucs | Which distribution is installed on it? |
| 18:10.08 | jucs | Om2007.2? |
| 18:10.43 | apol | jucs: i suppose, I haven't been able to change it yet |
| 18:11.06 | jucs | ? |
| 18:11.32 | apol | jucs: how do i know? |
| 18:12.06 | jucs | Does it look like this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8 |
| 18:12.21 | jucs | Or like this? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2007.2 |
| 18:12.29 | jucs | You'll see some screenshots... |
| 18:13.14 | apol | jucs: 2007.2 |
| 18:13.39 | jucs | Well, that's the same as I have... I didn't need any password for my first login... |
| 18:14.04 | apol | ok |
| 18:14.10 | apol | how can I reset it |
| 18:14.18 | DaveLab | I need to find Jucs now :D |
| 18:14.55 | jucs | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner <- Go here ;-) |
| 18:15.10 | jucs | Dave? XD |
| 18:15.45 | DaveLab | On tangogps friends! |
| 18:15.49 | DaveLab | Are you there? :) |
| 18:16.06 | DaveLab | I'm looking in and around germany, but don't see you :| |
| 18:16.29 | DaveLab | Maybe you fell off the planet again :p |
| 18:16.55 | jucs | :-P |
| 18:17.03 | jucs | Well... one moment, I can set it up .-P |
| 18:17.27 | jucs | The point is, that I have no GPRS configured yet, so it's not very funny... because you can only see me at home... |
| 18:17.45 | DaveLab | lawl |
| 18:17.48 | DaveLab | hides from the Zorkman |
| 18:18.51 | DaveLab | <3 Zorkman |
| 18:19.04 | DaveLab | Look on scap :P |
| 18:19.38 | jucs | Updates ;-) |
| 18:19.41 | jucs | Updated* |
| 18:20.15 | jucs | Oh well, I think it doesn't have any gps data yet... |
| 18:20.46 | DaveLab | or did you just become another body floating off the coast of africa? ;)( |
| 18:21.27 | jucs | :-D |
| 18:22.25 | jucs | Lets wait... hopefully it'll get a fix sometime soon^^ |
| 18:22.31 | DaveLab | Hopefully |
| 18:22.39 | DaveLab | wait, let me check the ocean! |
| 18:22.59 | jucs | Check Penagrande at 0,0 :-D :-D :-D |
| 18:23.12 | DaveLab | rofl |
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| 18:28.28 | Zorkman | Bastian is on Antarctica, but he doesn't win THE PRIZE because he's cheating :) |
| 18:29.09 | DaveLab | haha |
| 18:33.19 | Torikun | Yo |
| 18:33.32 | Torikun | DaveLab are you the same as Dave ? |
| 18:33.50 | DaveLab | What do you think? |
| 18:34.01 | Torikun | now I know |
| 18:34.02 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:34.20 | DaveLab | Furthermore, why aren't you on the tangogps friends map!? |
| 18:34.30 | DaveLab | I need to plot a course to your location >:) |
| 18:36.11 | Zorkman | hehe, no Torikun, it's his nutty-professor alter ego :) |
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| 18:36.40 | Zorkman | and every FR user should be on tangoGPS, that way MArcus Bauer will only code for us :) |
| 18:36.45 | Zorkman | DAVE! |
| 18:36.50 | Zorkman | LAzy LUYU is here |
| 18:36.52 | DaveLab | YES, WHAT!? |
| 18:36.56 | DaveLab | They are? |
| 18:37.01 | DaveLab | Where? |
| 18:37.02 | Zorkman | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.08 | DaveLab | LuYu is in china. |
| 18:37.13 | DaveLab | That can't be them? |
| 18:37.19 | LuYu | huh? |
| 18:37.28 | DaveLab | Luyu, hi? |
| 18:37.39 | LuYu | how did i become lazy? |
| 18:37.41 | DaveLab | zorkman, stop smoking, and go take a bath! |
| 18:37.55 | DaveLab | luyu, zorkman mistook you for someone else, I believe. |
| 18:38.01 | LuYu | oh |
| 18:38.02 | Zorkman | LuYu is in japan i think |
| 18:38.02 | DaveLab | Unless Lazy Lulu is your alter identity. |
| 18:38.15 | DaveLab | HK? |
| 18:38.17 | Zorkman | sorry Luyu |
| 18:38.18 | LuYu | hahaha |
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| 18:38.37 | LuYu | its kewl |
| 18:38.46 | DaveLab | Furthermore, why would I ever want to meet someone who calls themselves Lazy Lulu |
| 18:38.51 | DaveLab | it would be like if torikun started calling himself bigboi69 |
| 18:38.54 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03werner * r4606 10/developers/werner/greg/ (greg.c s3c24xx-spi.greg): |
| 18:38.54 | CIA-48 | openmoko: - added S3C24xx SPI register definitions |
| 18:38.54 | CIA-48 | openmoko: - added "C" dump mode (experimental) |
| 18:39.05 | LuYu | hmmm |
| 18:39.09 | DaveLab | like, uhh... yeah... sure I want to have lunch with you, and some "other guys"... ~_~ |
| 18:39.13 | DaveLab | o_O |
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| 18:39.24 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:39.25 | DaveLab | "lunch" |
| 18:39.27 | DaveLab | cringes |
| 18:39.37 | Torikun | llol |
| 18:39.47 | DaveLab | smirks at ieatlint |
| 18:39.56 | ceda | hmm |
| 18:39.57 | DaveLab | Torikun, you better watch out... |
| 18:40.01 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:40.06 | Torikun | protects a-hole |
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| 18:40.08 | DaveLab | them boys in oakland might send you a similar invitation :p |
| 18:40.11 | DaveLab | :D |
| 18:40.12 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:40.18 | fursund | hi... |
| 18:40.18 | bricode | I'm one lonely guy in Central America. |
| 18:40.21 | Torikun | runs to east east bay |
| 18:40.28 | ceda | mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/Framework org.freesmartphone.Framework.SetDebugLevel ogsmd DEBUG |
| 18:40.30 | DaveLab | bricode, oh, that's you? :) |
| 18:40.31 | ceda | /org/freesmartphone/Framework: SetDebugLevel failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod |
| 18:40.32 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03werner * r4607 10/developers/werner/wlan-spi/ (. Makefile WIRING spi.c): |
| 18:40.32 | CIA-48 | openmoko: - WIRING: SD/SPI wiring cheat sheet |
| 18:40.32 | CIA-48 | openmoko: - Makefile, spi.c: small user-mode demo for polling mode SPI (tested only TX) |
| 18:40.35 | DaveLab | it would seem that way |
| 18:40.49 | ieatlint | smirking at me then are we? |
| 18:40.57 | DaveLab | sure am |
| 18:41.01 | DaveLab | read the scrollback |
| 18:41.11 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:41.11 | DaveLab | In other news, why aren't you on tango friends!? |
| 18:41.19 | DaveLab | It's what everyone's doing! |
| 18:41.22 | Torikun | "it's gonna rain' |
| 18:41.23 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:41.29 | ieatlint | what's the best/simplest way of loading a simple web page in c? |
| 18:41.30 | fursund | so I accidentally converted my keyboard back to the qtopia one... how can I make it back to the raster keyboard? |
| 18:41.31 | DaveLab | it sure is... |
| 18:41.39 | DaveLab | ieatlint, lynx? |
| 18:41.42 | ieatlint | and don't tell me to open a fd :P |
| 18:41.42 | DaveLab | :P |
| 18:41.46 | DaveLab | haha |
| 18:41.46 | Torikun | It is not time for Ollie williams with the Blackuwather forecase.......It's gonna rain! |
| 18:41.47 | DaveLab | uhh |
| 18:41.48 | ieatlint | no, i mean like api |
| 18:41.55 | DaveLab | oh, so not embedding |
| 18:42.05 | DaveLab | torikun: nigga, please |
| 18:42.06 | Torikun | Guess what guys! I managed to make 2 phone calls on my Free Runner today! |
| 18:42.07 | apol | is there any 2008.8 howto? |
| 18:42.19 | ceda | ieatlint: python import httplib ;) |
| 18:42.19 | DaveLab | torikun, how long did it take? |
| 18:42.23 | Torikun | 10 min |
| 18:42.24 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:42.25 | apol | about how to install |
| 18:42.27 | DaveLab | and more importantly, how long did it take for them to be received? |
| 18:42.32 | DaveLab | pretty much :P |
| 18:42.33 | fursund | ieatlint do you mean something like beautiful soup? |
| 18:42.34 | Torikun | 10 min |
| 18:42.34 | ieatlint | ceda, that's not c |
| 18:42.34 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:42.40 | DaveLab | torikun D: |
| 18:42.43 | DaveLab | scary |
| 18:42.46 | Torikun | Listen to my review on it |
| 18:42.46 | Torikun | lol |
| 18:42.51 | ieatlint | fursund, yeah, i could use soup, if it's on the FR |
| 18:42.58 | ieatlint | ooh, and it is |
| 18:43.03 | DaveLab | silly lint |
| 18:43.05 | ieatlint | libsoup 2.2 |
| 18:43.07 | DaveLab | :D |
| 18:43.11 | DaveLab | surprise! |
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| 18:43.46 | ieatlint | Dave, unless you're jumping out of a cake, i don't want to hear "surprise!" |
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| 18:44.18 | fursund | so any of you know how to make the raster keyboard come back? |
| 18:44.41 | ceda | ieatlint: ... and httplib isn't shipped with python on OM either :/ |
| 18:45.13 | ieatlint | that sounds like the disney channel |
| 18:45.17 | DaveLab | no one in san francisco :( |
| 18:45.20 | DaveLab | crappy |
| 18:45.27 | DaveLab | ieatlint, haha :P |
| 18:45.48 | ieatlint | Dave, if you're bored, go get xulrunner/fennec on the OM |
| 18:46.00 | DaveLab | ieatlint, another thing you especially don't want to hear, around those 'parts' in the hood is... SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER!!! |
| 18:46.31 | DaveLab | ieatlint, I built it against qtopia already when trying to get motherfucking firefox3 built for the freerunner |
| 18:46.35 | DaveLab | @*&$^*&# pos didn't work |
| 18:48.06 | ieatlint | maybe we should go to mozilla's hq and bitch at them |
| 18:48.38 | DaveLab | I have phone numbers and addresses :) |
| 18:48.41 | DaveLab | Will that do? >:) |
| 18:49.13 | DaveLab | lint, if we ever catch up sometime, I'll let you in on some more intimate moz stuff. |
| 18:49.23 | DaveLab | If you ever wanted to know. |
| 18:49.34 | DaveLab | Don't blame me if you get mind raped though in the process :D |
| 18:50.00 | ieatlint | sounds hot |
| 18:50.05 | DaveLab | uhh |
| 18:50.19 | DaveLab | if you're into that kind of ... stuff... *shifty-eyed look* |
| 18:50.48 | ieatlint | i'm not sure i know what we're talking about anymore |
| 18:51.03 | DaveLab | same :p |
| 18:51.12 | DaveLab | speaking of mind rape... |
| 18:51.17 | DaveLab | I need to go submit that bug report now :) |
| 18:51.28 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03werner * r4608 10/developers/werner/ahrt/host/tmc/ (lib/instrument.py lib/scope.py lib/wave.py python.c usbtmc.c): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:51.28 | CIA-48 | openmoko: This mainly adds the long-awaited screendump functionality. Also fixes |
| 18:51.28 | CIA-48 | openmoko: two serious bugs, namely an off-by-twelve error in Rigol USB TMC read |
| 18:51.28 | CIA-48 | openmoko: function and caching converted instead of unconverted values in |
| 18:51.30 | CIA-48 | openmoko: settings, which broke larger scripts. |
| 18:51.32 | CIA-48 | openmoko: - lib/wave.py: added "extend" method for all waves |
| 18:51.34 | CIA-48 | openmoko: - lib/scope.py: started support for piecewise wave retrieval (doesn't work yet) |
| 18:52.06 | DaveLab | Well, I think it's time for another lunch, too. |
| 18:52.28 | DaveLab | Ieatlint, can we have a party at your place? |
| 18:52.34 | DaveLab | Say, next weekish? |
| 18:53.02 | almien | anyone running debian on neo? is it good? |
| 18:53.17 | Torikun | Ainulindale: the installed did |
| 18:53.18 | ieatlint | hah, nah... my roommates wouldn't be particularly pleased |
| 18:53.18 | DaveLab | It's slowly becoming more promising. |
| 18:53.19 | Torikun | not work |
| 18:53.29 | DaveLab | ieatlint, oh :x |
| 18:53.31 | DaveLab | Nevermind then. |
| 18:53.39 | DaveLab | Torikun's place then? |
| 18:53.41 | DaveLab | :P |
| 18:53.41 | lindi- | almien: i am biased but it looks promising |
| 18:53.48 | DaveLab | lindi, sure are :) |
| 18:54.46 | DaveLab | Anyway, time for lunch, and to play doom on my phone. |
| 18:55.06 | almien | lindi-: can you get much done in a standard WM using just the touchscreen? |
| 18:55.29 | lindi- | almien: matchbox-window-manager? |
| 18:56.10 | almien | is that the standard one? it's optimised for touchscreen? |
| 18:56.36 | lindi- | almien: standard one? |
| 18:56.48 | lindi- | almien: you can install it to your normal debian system too |
| 18:56.49 | almien | just reading about it now |
| 18:58.25 | lindi- | is there some standard format for describing virtual keyboard layouts? every program seems to have its own |
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| 19:08.58 | apol | how come "dfu-util -l" is retrieving me a device even if I don't have anything connected? |
| 19:09.09 | Blalien | anyone tried Qtopia? |
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| 19:09.25 | lpotter | I have |
| 19:09.51 | tuXXX | me too |
| 19:09.57 | tuXXX | and I'm using it right now ^^ |
| 19:10.01 | mwester | apol: you probably have a bluetooth dongle or internal device on your system. |
| 19:10.21 | apol | mwester: I can't flash if I have this, do I have an alternative? |
| 19:11.22 | Blalien | tuXXX: Have you tried to connect a bluetooth headset? |
| 19:11.34 | Blalien | or you lpotter? |
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| 19:11.52 | retracile | apol: try the -d option |
| 19:12.07 | tuXXX | Blalien: hmm... no |
| 19:12.25 | retracile | apol: in my case I'm using: su -c "./dfu-util -d 0x1d50:0x5119 -a rootfs -R -D \"$jffs2\"" |
| 19:12.42 | apol | retracile: I'll try |
| 19:12.43 | apol | lets see... |
| 19:13.18 | Blalien | tuXXX: Oke, bummer... I have the problem that I cannot use it. But it is recognized. That did'nt even happen with 2007.2 or 2008.08 |
| 19:13.31 | tuXXX | Blalien: I don't have one, and I don't really want to use one... I don't like microwaves ^^ |
| 19:13.41 | lpotter | Blalien: doubt that would work on any gui currently |
| 19:13.52 | Blalien | bummer |
| 19:13.56 | Bill_ | btw.. is there a 2008.8 image that actually works? |
| 19:13.56 | lpotter | yep |
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| 19:14.29 | Bill_ | and lorn, how far is 4.4? i recall it was Real Soon Now (tm) couple of weeks ago :) |
| 19:15.57 | tuXXX | I saw there was a preview |
| 19:16.22 | tuXXX | http://qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=599&forum=5 |
| 19:17.21 | Bill_ | anything also for FR? as 4.3 is so far the most stable distro on FR |
| 19:18.08 | tuXXX | (hmm this is only qtopia core... so is it only the libs and not the whole environment?) |
| 19:18.34 | Bill_ | yeah.. seems so |
| 19:19.13 | Bill_ | and damn.. i hoped so much of todays asu update.. but still doesn't work |
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| 19:27.23 | zash | $ make porr |
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| 19:29.43 | El_Senator | http://www.gaffabillet.dk/index.php?grp=present |
| 19:29.59 | qknight | why does the topic state: no usable phone yet. i think it's pretty good together with qtopia |
| 19:30.38 | lpotter | because 'no usable phone' ignores Qtopia |
| 19:31.06 | *** topic/#openmoko by mickey|tv -> Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | DO NOT USE buildhost.openmoko.org TO UPGRADE 2008.8 IT WILL NEVER EVER WORK |Freerunner is in stock in some resellers. |http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Quickstart | See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems |Keyboard numbers for 2008.8 : slide finger up on the keyboard |
| 19:31.09 | Bill_ | Qtopia is good indeed.. lorn.. excellent work.. really looking forward to 4,4 |
| 19:31.10 | lpotter | Bill_: few more weeks |
| 19:31.10 | qknight | you mean openmoko developers do ignore qtopia? |
| 19:31.36 | nyu | is qtopia more stable than the stock system? |
| 19:31.37 | lindi- | Bill_: have you managed to build qtopia? |
| 19:31.48 | Bill_ | nope.. haven't looked into that |
| 19:31.50 | lpotter | Bill_: no, I mean that statement ignores that Qtopia can make a usable phone |
| 19:32.04 | Bill_ | have had too much work sadly.. |
| 19:32.09 | lindi- | Bill_: since i'd favor the system that can be improved easily |
| 19:32.09 | qknight | ok, that's just what i wanted to know |
| 19:32.14 | Bill_ | lpotter: that i know.. as it's not openmoko distro |
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| 19:32.58 | ssweeny | uses qtopia on flash for the main phone, and other distros on sd cards for devel |
| 19:33.07 | Bill_ | lindi-: i believe lorn is able to instruct and help you on this.. if he has the time :) |
| 19:33.07 | lpotter | qtopia is not a distro. |
| 19:33.35 | Bill_ | lpotter: where do you position it? WM? |
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| 19:33.45 | nyu | lindi-: so how did wesnoth perform on the FR? |
| 19:33.58 | Bill_ | or desktop environment? |
| 19:34.00 | nyu | lindi-: the resolution problem makes it completely unusable? |
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| 19:34.18 | nyu | Bill_: environment, not desktop |
| 19:34.35 | Bill_ | ok.. |
| 19:34.55 | lpotter | yep |
| 19:35.33 | lpotter | qtoia is like kde, except its better for phones :) |
| 19:35.46 | lindi- | nyu: no idea, didn't try to play |
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| 19:35.58 | mickey|tv | heh |
| 19:36.18 | Bill_ | ok.. figured something like that |
| 19:37.03 | nyu | lindi-: but the main screen is sane? |
| 19:37.13 | nyu | i.e. you see the buttons that would allow you to start a game? |
| 19:37.26 | lindi- | nyu: now with that resolution easily |
| 19:38.02 | nyu | ? |
| 19:38.19 | lindi- | s/now/not/ |
| 19:38.26 | nyu | ah ok |
| 19:38.30 | nyu | thanks for the test |
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| 19:43.52 | Zorkman | Dave: in two weeks party at my place is allright :p |
| 19:45.57 | nyu | lindi-: arm or armel? |
| 19:46.16 | nyu | armel works, right? |
| 19:46.20 | apol | how can I connect the wifi? |
| 19:46.32 | lindi- | nyu: huh? armel of course |
| 19:46.34 | apol | i can't configure it through settings |
| 19:47.45 | nyu | lindi-: okie |
| 19:48.04 | lindi- | apol: iwconfig? |
| 19:49.02 | apol | lindi-: I have to connect it through usb first? |
| 19:49.32 | lindi- | apol: or type to terminal |
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| 19:50.12 | apol | do i have a terminal on 2008.8? |
| 19:50.26 | zogs | yes |
| 19:50.28 | zogs | vte |
| 19:50.31 | zogs | xterm |
| 19:50.38 | zogs | or om-terminal |
| 19:50.50 | apol | ummmm |
| 19:50.50 | zogs | I have try this |
| 19:50.51 | apol | how? |
| 19:51.02 | zogs | opkg install |
| 19:51.07 | apol | i don't have internet connection to install anything |
| 19:51.10 | lindi- | apol: i don't know |
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| 19:53.01 | ike | lindi: i'm building armel emdebian. Still have to wait a day or two to check if all needed packages are properly built. |
| 19:53.28 | ike | But to start em_autobuild was hell. thanks to codehelp (Neil) for help. Debianists are awesome. |
| 19:53.31 | lindi- | ike: why? ;) |
| 19:53.48 | ike | lindi: why I am building it or why I have to wait? :-) |
| 19:53.51 | lindi- | ike: i'd concentrate on getting usable keyboard first :P |
| 19:53.57 | ike | pf :P |
| 19:54.28 | ike | I'll wait for you. After two days you'll give me a decent keyboard and I'll try emdebian. |
| 19:54.32 | ike | ];-) |
| 19:54.49 | ike | I'm just a simple admin. My programming skills are hackish. |
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| 20:00.38 | Zero_Dogg | can 2008.8 use the 2007 multitap-pad any way? |
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| 20:03.04 | ceda | mickey|tv: SetDebugLevel gives me UnknownMethod error on the three images I've tested today. |
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| 20:06.36 | nyu | root@om-gta02:~# mke2fs -j /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 20:06.37 | nyu | mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) |
| 20:06.37 | nyu | Warning: could not erase sector 2: Attempt to write block from filesystem resulted in short write |
| 20:06.39 | nyu | uhm |
| 20:07.00 | nyu | is the mmc driver for this chipset buggy? |
| 20:07.25 | Veggen | mmm, people. If I'm interested in a good choice in software, some phone usability (but it's not my primary phone), and easy porting of packages to it - what'd be my choice of distribution? ;) |
| 20:08.17 | *** join/#openmoko tomboy64 (n=tomboy64@e178049062.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:08.20 | TeXitoi | Veggen: what do you mean by "easy porting of packages to it" ? |
| 20:09.22 | *** part/#openmoko martinolivera (n=molivera@190.3.106.164) |
| 20:09.35 | Veggen | well. I can install a cross-compiling tool and all that. I guess I need a distribution that has the basic toolkits that other small-screen units have. |
| 20:09.54 | *** join/#openmoko fr00n03ia (n=milko@3mhz.net) |
| 20:10.43 | jaj | is there some proper way to change the ringtone in 2008.8? The path to the wav file is hard coded in a qtopia lib. I just replaced that wav with another one but I was wondering whether there's some other way. |
| 20:10.48 | Veggen | ok, not well explained ;) |
| 20:11.02 | Veggen | Is 2008.8 any good yet? |
| 20:11.13 | fr00n03ia | Is there any way to make opkg upgrade stop breaking my Qtopia installed on the flash? And is there any way to disable syspend on Om 2008.8? I can't do *anything* on my phone, cause I have to keep one my hand on the phone, while typing on the terminal with the other, so that it doesn't suspend while I'm doing anything |
| 20:12.00 | fr00n03ia | Veggen: Well, unlike 2007.2, it's absolutely unusable for anything |
| 20:13.12 | nyu | # dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null |
| 20:13.12 | nyu | dd: /dev/mmcblk0: Input/output error |
| 20:13.14 | nyu | grmpf |
| 20:13.32 | Veggen | fr00n03ia: I was afraid of that. I'll pass for now, then :) |
| 20:13.35 | Arcnet | lindi-: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/debian.txt was posted in om-cdevel and I just google'd your "test number" - it's MS support or such, isn't it? :-D |
| 20:13.49 | jaj | Veggen: 2008.8 is quite a pain in terms of usability. I installed a terminal, modified the keyboard and upgrade to the testing tree by Zecke and it's more or less usable now. When I flashed 2008.8 the only things that were working afterwards were receiving calls and Sudoku ;) |
| 20:13.51 | lindi- | Arcnet: i disclaim all warranty on the number :) |
| 20:13.59 | alephnull | fr00n03ia: install illume-config, then use the wrench in the top left of the menu to set the suspend options. |
| 20:14.09 | lindi- | Arcnet: my friend used it for testing his asterisk setup |
| 20:14.15 | Veggen | jaj: oh. I can live with having to fix some things. |
| 20:14.16 | fr00n03ia | alephnull: It says its already up to date, I don't have any wrench on the top |
| 20:14.29 | Arcnet | :-D |
| 20:14.44 | alephnull | fr00n03ia: In that sliding menu thing. |
| 20:15.31 | lindi- | Arcnet: i haven't actually used it yet but afaik it's automated service for some proprietary license activation stuff |
| 20:15.57 | fr00n03ia | alephnull: OK, what do I do? :) |
| 20:16.02 | apol | openmoko is looking for "Package.sig" files but they don't exist :S |
| 20:16.05 | almien | lindi-: you use rana on debian? |
| 20:16.13 | alephnull | fr00n03ia: It's under Power. |
| 20:16.26 | lindi- | almien: never heard about it |
| 20:16.41 | Arcnet | lindi-: hehe, I think I keep it in mind (though using the german activation number) for my testcalls (always calling my landline is quite expensive oO) ;) |
| 20:16.41 | lindi- | almien: what is that? |
| 20:17.52 | fr00n03ia | alephnull: Under power where? On the top I have an arrow showing the running tasks, the keyboard starter, a star-dot thing, an battery indicator, and a clock :) |
| 20:18.11 | almien | oh ok. don't worry then. It's my own program; for some reason I thought that you had been running it before |
| 20:18.58 | Zorkman | goddamn, what is up with those 2008.8 developpers, what is the use of removing the spanner/wrench, when nog implementing an alternative? |
| 20:19.23 | Zorkman | there isn't any way to set singe or double click to launch apps, and no fps configuration |
| 20:19.24 | fr00n03ia | Huh, more funny, my Qtopia doesn't work as an USB host anymore after I did opkg upgrade on my Om 2008.8 :D |
| 20:19.48 | *** join/#openmoko Blalien1 (n=Blalien@ip565b6b3c.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:20.17 | Blalien1 | Could someone tell me if there's a version of Android available that works on the neo? |
| 20:20.36 | *** join/#openmoko larry_jr (n=Larry@200.184.118.132) |
| 20:20.36 | alephnull | fr00n03ia: If you click that arrow with the running tasks and the menu slides down, you should see a wrench in the top left. |
| 20:21.03 | apol | openmoko is looking for "Package.sig" files but they don't exist :S what should i do before "opkg update"? |
| 20:21.18 | Zorkman | apol: signatures are not yet implemented, just ignore them |
| 20:21.24 | ceda | Blalien1: yes, there's no such thing yet. |
| 20:21.28 | fr00n03ia | Well, I guess I won't be able to check that, as my Om 2008.8 doesn't boot anymore :) |
| 20:21.38 | apol | Zorkman: ok |
| 20:21.55 | TAsn-orderedmoko | has anyone here ordered from koolu? |
| 20:21.57 | Blalien1 | ceda: ok thanks |
| 20:22.17 | *** join/#openmoko Raigedas (n=OpenSour@hst-241-40.splius.lt) |
| 20:22.49 | apol | is there somewhere a list of interesting programs to install? |
| 20:23.01 | Raigedas | :) |
| 20:23.23 | jaj | apol: opkg list |
| 20:23.25 | apol | why do i get that: " * Could not obtain administrative lock"? |
| 20:23.25 | Raigedas | yes, install debian |
| 20:23.28 | Raigedas | :) |
| 20:23.30 | Zorkman | apol: openmoko-agpsui, tangogps, pidgin, numptyphisics, mokoegg, mofi |
| 20:23.34 | nyu | so what's more stable, qtopia or om2008.8? |
| 20:23.38 | fr00n03ia | Cool, it's already a month since I'm trying to boot anything on this phone |
| 20:23.49 | fr00n03ia | that let's me use ssh to it |
| 20:23.52 | ceda | apol: numptyphisics and remoko perhaps |
| 20:23.53 | fr00n03ia | Still no success :D |
| 20:23.53 | Zorkman | apol: because you used the graphical installer, close the installer and try again, if that does not work: killall packagekitd |
| 20:23.55 | jaj | nyu: qtopia |
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| 20:24.05 | mmontour | TAsn-orderedmoko: yes |
| 20:24.17 | TAsn-orderedmoko | mmontour, did you get an email on the progress? |
| 20:24.39 | fr00n03ia | It was cool how 2007.2 images booted and worked and everything was cool |
| 20:24.53 | TAsn-orderedmoko | mmontour, i feel like http://xkcd.com/281/ |
| 20:24.58 | jaj | fr00n03ia: you can just flash 2007.2 again |
| 20:25.01 | TAsn-orderedmoko | just without the info about where my package is :) |
| 20:25.14 | nyu | okay then |
| 20:25.24 | mmontour | I got a tracking number but it may depend on which shipping option you chose |
| 20:25.35 | TAsn | in us |
| 20:25.38 | TAsn | the cheaper one ;0 |
| 20:25.43 | TAsn | sec i will check it's nme |
| 20:25.45 | TAsn | name* |
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| 20:26.03 | TAsn | mmontour, Canada Post (1 box(es) to be shipped) (Xpresspost USA, 2008-09-06): |
| 20:26.10 | TAsn | does that makes sense? |
| 20:26.32 | mmontour | I'd expect that to have a tracking number, but I don't know for sure (I'm in Canada) |
| 20:26.43 | TAsn | i see |
| 20:26.43 | fr00n03ia | jaj: Yup, but I would rather flash Qtopia again, at the moment. :) I wanted to play with ASU, though. Qtopia is uninteresting to me, I use it when I fry my other phone. :) |
| 20:26.43 | nyu | does qtopia use x11? |
| 20:26.54 | TAsn | mmontour, when did you get you tracking number? |
| 20:27.01 | TAsn | how many days after order? ;0 |
| 20:27.05 | TAsn | im anxious. |
| 20:27.05 | *** join/#openmoko morphis (n=morphis@p54899221.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:28.21 | jaj | it's so great to have a real xterm on the phone |
| 20:28.23 | *** join/#openmoko Schugy (n=chris@Q087c.q.pppool.de) |
| 20:28.28 | mmontour | about 4 days (including a weekend), don't remember exactly |
| 20:29.54 | TAsn | mmontour, then it's just me being crazy, nothing more ;0 |
| 20:30.08 | TAsn | im waiting for a moko for about 1.5 years give or take |
| 20:30.22 | TAsn | :) |
| 20:30.36 | marcinsoo | is any way to disable word prediction in keyboard? |
| 20:31.44 | fr00n03ia | Does opkg upgrade upgrade the kernel on the flash, or the kernel in /boot, or both? (Just trying to guess why it fried both OSes, not just one of them) |
| 20:32.05 | jaj | marcinsoo: it's mentioned in the wiki |
| 20:32.14 | TAsn | jaj, where at? |
| 20:32.43 | nyu | which linux version is included with the current qtopia & om2008.8 distros? |
| 20:32.56 | marcinsoo | jaj: i check it out once more... thx |
| 20:33.01 | jaj | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard |
| 20:33.03 | *** part/#openmoko Torikun (n=rusher@gateway.penguincomputing.com) |
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| 20:33.47 | jaj | and you can use the zoom feature to turn off prediction temporarily |
| 20:35.11 | Zorkman | anybody has the full-qwerty.kbd file? in 2008.8-upgrade the file is not included |
| 20:35.29 | Zorkman | so I'm unable to use the full qwerty keyboard, if someone could upload his file... |
| 20:35.45 | Zorkman | it's located at /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd |
| 20:36.28 | nyu | ouch. qtopia is not x11 is it? |
| 20:36.36 | Zorkman | nope, not x11 |
| 20:36.39 | OMZ_Zepher | Is there a way I can decrease the fontsize of the installer? |
| 20:37.02 | nyu | ok, so if I want stability, but not at the expense of losing x11, should I upgrade to om2008.8? |
| 20:37.35 | phrozen77 | 2008.8 == far from stable |
| 20:37.39 | Zorkman | nyu: 2008.8 is not very stable |
| 20:37.44 | phrozen77 | its worse than 2007.2 for me |
| 20:37.48 | phrozen77 | WAY worse |
| 20:37.54 | Zorkman | same here |
| 20:37.56 | marcinsoo | jaj : i'd like to disable it at all |
| 20:38.10 | apol | why opkg keeps asking me to "opkg update"? http://rafb.net/p/CJXP2H32.html |
| 20:38.16 | nyu | what I have now (om2007 ?) is not stable either :-/ |
| 20:38.16 | jaj | Zorkman: https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?q=inurl:Full-QWERTY.kbd ;) |
| 20:38.26 | Zorkman | thanks jaj! |
| 20:38.30 | OMZ_Zepher | I dont have a lot of problems with it. Then again, I got it a few days ago and I didn't start to break it yet |
| 20:38.43 | nyu | ok actually, I just need a newer linux build that can support my mmc |
| 20:38.56 | nyu | for some reason, the card works fine elsewhere, but produces I/O errors in the FR |
| 20:39.08 | OMZ_Zepher | The Micro SD? |
| 20:39.13 | nyu | yes |
| 20:39.21 | OMZ_Zepher | Yes, it makes me unable to make phone calls |
| 20:39.24 | OMZ_Zepher | the no-pin thing |
| 20:39.27 | nyu | are there known bugs about uSD support? |
| 20:39.39 | nyu | or any BTS I could check |
| 20:39.48 | OMZ_Zepher | The mailinglist |
| 20:40.03 | OMZ_Zepher | Or the trac |
| 20:40.28 | mmontour | nyu: there are a few /sys tunables (e.g. clock speed, drive strength) but I can't give you specifics. My 4G card "just works" |
| 20:40.49 | Schugy | I wonder whether it's safe to buy a gta03 or wether there will be only new firmwares for the gta04 a few months later. would anyone care about it, if I only had expensive trash? |
| 20:41.18 | nyu | mmontour: so maybe I should just buy a new card? |
| 20:41.30 | OMZ_Zepher | anyways, I`m leaving. |
| 20:41.46 | OMZ_Zepher | sleeps |
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| 20:42.32 | mmontour | nyu: I'd at least look in 'dmesg' for errors, and report your problems somewhere (Trac and/or a wiki page about supported uSD cards) |
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| 20:43.10 | nyu | pcf50633_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c7d34c00): scheduling work |
| 20:43.10 | nyu | pcf50633_work: INT1=0x00 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x40 INT4=0x00 INT5=0x00 |
| 20:43.10 | nyu | ADCRDY |
| 20:43.11 | nyu | uhm |
| 20:43.15 | apol | why opkg keeps asking me to "opkg update"? http://rafb.net/p/CJXP2H32.html |
| 20:43.17 | *** join/#openmoko Gromgull (n=ggrimnes@p54A6B1E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:43.18 | nyu | my dmesg is filled with that error |
| 20:43.59 | mmontour | that's just debugging noise. Are you running an old kernel? (I thought that stuff was turned off in the newer ones) |
| 20:43.59 | nyu | but that's power management, right? |
| 20:44.52 | nyu | mmontour: the one in om2007 (linux 2.6.24) |
| 20:44.53 | nyu | can I update it without changing the userland env? |
| 20:44.53 | Gromgull | I will flash my moko to solve some boot problem - i understand that 2008.8 has no updates? Does that mean there are no other packages available either, like tango gps, the minimo browser either? |
| 20:44.53 | TeXitoi | mmontour: that is your *sd? |
| 20:45.01 | Gromgull | eh ... with one either less |
| 20:45.07 | TeXitoi | mmontour: what model? |
| 20:45.17 | mmontour | nyu: not necessarily - the userspace needs to have a matching set of kernel modules |
| 20:45.40 | nyu | I guess I'll just wait, then |
| 20:46.05 | nyu | how hard is it to get an usb host adapter? |
| 20:46.17 | *** join/#openmoko Stroller (n=Stroller@pornpipe.stroller.uk.eu.org) |
| 20:46.35 | TeXitoi | nyu: usb a female female are not so difficult to find |
| 20:46.55 | TeXitoi | then, you just plug on your usb cable |
| 20:46.57 | fr00n03ia | good night |
| 20:46.58 | fr00n03ia | :) |
| 20:48.13 | nyu | oh, but it needs hackery to move it to host mode |
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| 20:48.39 | Infoport | hello all! enjoying my FR, but GPS has suddenly stopped getting a fix. Is there anything that would make it suddenly take WAY longer to get a fix than before. |
| 20:48.41 | mmontour | TeXitoi: I don't have it with me to check the model. Patriot 4G something |
| 20:48.48 | phrozen77 | Gromgull, you can install pkgs on 2008.8 |
| 20:48.57 | TeXitoi | mmontour: ok, thanks |
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| 20:49.05 | Dave | PARTY AT ZORKMANS! |
| 20:49.13 | Dave | (in two weeks) :p |
| 20:49.20 | Mudry | hi.. anyone knows an easy solution to pygtk being unable to import cairo? |
| 20:49.27 | Zorkman | indeed, everyone is welcome |
| 20:49.28 | Gromgull | phrozen77: ok - so the sinister warning "There are *NO* updates available for 2008.08 anywhere on buildhost.openmoko.org - the daily-feeds directory is incompatible with 2008.08 and will corrupt your software configuration if you use it. " at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download is overdone? :) |
| 20:49.30 | TeXitoi | Infoport: weather? O:-) |
| 20:49.39 | phrozen77 | invites himself |
| 20:50.07 | Zorkman | you don't have to, you're already invited |
| 20:50.20 | Zorkman | and I told Dave: free geek-hats for everyone that brings his FR :p |
| 20:50.32 | phrozen77 | Gromgull, no - i meant that you indeed can install apps |
| 20:50.40 | phrozen77 | not saying that you can update the os or anything |
| 20:50.49 | Gromgull | right |
| 20:51.18 | Dave | :D |
| 20:51.42 | Dave | Hey Infoport - I found you on the map, earlier :) |
| 20:51.43 | Zorkman | goddam, i wish 2008.8 worked so I could KILL it |
| 20:51.44 | Gromgull | I take it havign bought my device from pulster it's a gta02v5? |
| 20:51.52 | Dave | zorkman :P |
| 20:51.55 | phrozen77 | Zorkman, where are you located? |
| 20:52.02 | phrozen77 | oh |
| 20:52.03 | phrozen77 | .be |
| 20:52.04 | Dave | loller.be |
| 20:52.04 | phrozen77 | hmm |
| 20:52.07 | Zorkman | phrozen; belgium |
| 20:52.15 | Dave | waffles |
| 20:52.15 | phrozen77 | when? |
| 20:52.28 | phrozen77 | roflwaffles! |
| 20:52.34 | Infoport | I *did* take the FR apart, and checked the plug to the GPS antenna-- I made sure it was round and it snapped into place, while the other end is soldered on (not great, but connected) |
| 20:52.49 | piti | Hi I just want to increase the volume of the microphone, as call receivers don't hear me. but I don't manage to find what value change in which file. I have tried with alsamixer, but values seems to be changed "on the fly" by some kind of script. which one is it ? |
| 20:52.57 | mmontour | Gromgull: look for the "Revision:" line in /proc/cpuinfo (0350 == v5) |
| 20:53.07 | wurp2|working | piti: It should be gsmhandset.state |
| 20:53.29 | Zorkman | piti: did you set Mic2 volume to 3? |
| 20:53.40 | Infoport | Dave: from my published location through TangoGPS? cool! It hasnt updated in a while, since GPS hasnt been responsive |
| 20:53.41 | phrozen77 | Gromgull, its also on the sticker under the battery |
| 20:54.03 | apol | why opkg keeps asking me to "opkg update"? http://rafb.net/p/CJXP2H32.html |
| 20:54.46 | phrozen77 | apol, because downloading the packages has failed |
| 20:54.54 | phrozen77 | note the lines with .gz at the end |
| 20:55.05 | phrozen77 | its normal to fail for the .sig files on the other hand |
| 20:55.17 | phrozen77 | suggests your networking isnt...working |
| 20:55.24 | phrozen77 | can you ping google.com from the fr? |
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| 20:55.48 | Zorkman | apol: did you edit your etc/resolv.conf ? |
| 20:56.06 | w_erase | What 's the Green bar on the top left of FSO gui And what are the caracters "b G1 w s" on top of it ? |
| 20:56.08 | phrozen77 | Zorkman, so what will the party be about? |
| 20:56.13 | piti | Zorkman: mic2 should be in gsmhandset.state ? |
| 20:56.16 | cjb | w_erase: battery, gsm, wlan, gprs |
| 20:56.22 | cjb | if they have a "1", they're turned on |
| 20:56.36 | Mudry | anyone knows an easy solution to pygtk being unable to import cairo? - on a fresh install of 2007.2 + updgrade |
| 20:56.40 | Zorkman | phrozen77: I don't know:) if some people want to come, i'll host a party, if nobody's comming i'll also party :) |
| 20:56.47 | Zorkman | piti: yes |
| 20:56.51 | phrozen77 | lol |
| 20:56.52 | wurp2|working | Dave: Is there some way to check the tangogps public positions through a web browser? |
| 20:56.52 | Zorkman | where are you phrozen77? |
| 20:56.56 | phrozen77 | .de |
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| 20:57.40 | Zorkman | in 1.5-2 weeks i'm moving into my new appartment, so we could babtize it with some good belgian beer :) |
| 20:57.52 | phrozen77 | mhh |
| 20:57.52 | phrozen77 | :) |
| 20:57.55 | jaj | I got hardly any GPS fix with 2007.2 but since I updated to 2008.8 I didn't get any fix at all anymore... |
| 20:58.10 | phrozen77 | 2008.8 == big fail |
| 20:58.18 | phrozen77 | i wonder why they bothered to release it at all |
| 20:58.38 | w_erase | cjb, what could be 'battery' 1 ? charging ? what about the green bar ? current batt capacity ? |
| 20:58.38 | Zorkman | yeah |
| 20:58.52 | Zorkman | and the "updated" version of 2008.8 is not better |
| 20:59.00 | cjb | w_erase: yes |
| 20:59.11 | phrozen77 | i mean ok |
| 20:59.12 | Infoport | I also reflashed to a newer OM2007, 0820 or 0821, (because my old one got borked) |
| 20:59.14 | phrozen77 | the fr is beta |
| 20:59.21 | phrozen77 | BUT SOMETHING HAS TO WORK |
| 20:59.28 | phrozen77 | not even the fucking alarm works |
| 20:59.32 | jaj | hey! sudoko works ;) |
| 20:59.44 | phrozen77 | can it get any worse? |
| 20:59.50 | Infoport | hmmm...suddenly it works with the external antenna. (I swear I tried it before-- the FR must have heard my talking/typing about it) |
| 20:59.57 | phrozen77 | i SO bought the fr cause sudoku |
| 21:00.45 | Zorkman | :D |
| 21:00.53 | Zorkman | Dave: wtf is cga doing behind your back? |
| 21:01.05 | apol | phrozen77: i can ping yes |
| 21:01.07 | cga | shakes |
| 21:01.20 | phrozen77 | apol, even domains instead of ips? |
| 21:01.20 | apol | phrozen77: is theere a solution? |
| 21:01.24 | apol | phrozen77: yes sure |
| 21:01.33 | phrozen77 | then no idea, sorry |
| 21:01.39 | apol | ah shit |
| 21:01.45 | Dave | What what!? |
| 21:01.47 | apol | no after rebooting |
| 21:01.49 | phrozen77 | maybe Zorkman or Dave has one |
| 21:01.49 | *** part/#openmoko malik1972 (n=malik197@e182056185.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:02.00 | phrozen77 | apol, so dns doesnt work |
| 21:02.01 | Zorkman | cgalpin in Cumberland |
| 21:02.04 | Dave | wurp2, I'm currently working with marcus on it. |
| 21:02.06 | Dave | or trying to :) |
| 21:02.14 | Dave | since that is what I've been arguing for a while |
| 21:02.14 | Zorkman | apol: you can ping? |
| 21:02.16 | Zorkman | and can you wget? |
| 21:02.23 | apol | Zorkman: now i can |
| 21:02.27 | apol | i had to fix resolv.conf |
| 21:02.27 | Dave | Zorkman, what is cga doing? |
| 21:02.32 | phrozen77 | now opkg should work |
| 21:02.34 | zash | GAH, I want a phone that can adjust ring volume to the env |
| 21:02.40 | jaj | apol: you notice the // typo? |
| 21:02.47 | Zorkman | hiding in cumberland (southwest of you): cgalpin |
| 21:02.51 | Infoport | Zorkman: a local quick-mart put a bunch of beer on sale because it was Winter beers. They still taste good, so we have bought a bunch. One is from Belgium, Barbar (2nd 'a' should have ~) for only $3.49/4pk |
| 21:03.22 | jaj | apol: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Guide#Unofficial_.28zecke.29_Updates first sentence |
| 21:03.31 | Zorkman | yeah i know that beer Infoport; it's ok |
| 21:03.38 | apol | lets see |
| 21:03.51 | Zorkman | but what is Winter beer?? |
| 21:04.05 | Zorkman | ASAIK you can always drink beer :) |
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| 21:04.22 | Dave | Zorkman, omgwtfbbq!? |
| 21:04.23 | Infoport | Zorkman, not my fav beer, but good and dark and strong. My father-in-law loves it so much he has gone back 3-4 times |
| 21:04.27 | Dave | ZE FRENCH ARE HERE!? |
| 21:04.48 | ieatlint | there are 4,014 unique bus stops on 415 bus routes for 85 bus lines in san francisco's public transit system |
| 21:05.04 | apol | it is working |
| 21:05.08 | apol | thanks phrozen77 :) |
| 21:05.24 | w_erase | Dave, I am :-) |
| 21:05.37 | phrozen77 | apol, yw |
| 21:05.40 | Dave | :O |
| 21:05.44 | Dave | THERE ARE MORE OF YOU!? |
| 21:05.48 | Zorkman | ieatlint: what are you babling about? :) |
| 21:05.54 | Dave | ieatlint :) |
| 21:06.03 | Dave | Zorkman, SEKRET PROJEKTZ |
| 21:06.14 | phrozen77 | fo realz? |
| 21:06.16 | Zorkman | AI LAIK! |
| 21:06.25 | phrozen77 | LOLCODE! |
| 21:06.26 | Dave | A Davelint production? |
| 21:06.29 | Infoport | Zorkman: ok *traditional* winter beers (plus these may be old, from Winter) The other beer is a Winter Solstice beer with subtle spices of clove, etc. Bocks are traditional Winter beers but I like them year-round |
| 21:06.42 | Dave | Infoport |
| 21:06.42 | ieatlint | Zorkman, i just loaded the entire system's data, including gps coords for each bus stop into an sql database as part of a bus program for the phone |
| 21:06.57 | Dave | It's super cool! |
| 21:06.58 | piti | hum, I have tried with a value of 3 for mic2, but it seems volume is still weak, and noise has raised for the called person... another idea ? |
| 21:06.58 | roh | *sigh |
| 21:07.00 | Zorkman | ieatlint: nice, you have my blessing |
| 21:07.05 | Dave | Hello roh |
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| 21:07.14 | Zorkman | hi roh, what's bothering you? |
| 21:07.17 | roh | anybody a clue how to get wordpress to gimme rss2 instead of html-foo? |
| 21:07.35 | roh | i though http://www.valeriovalerio.org/?cat=20?feed=rss2 is it... but it istn... how i hate this php-crud |
| 21:07.41 | jaj | is anybody able to install the pidgin package? I get a config file error (i.e. return code 2) |
| 21:07.42 | Dave | haha |
| 21:07.49 | Dave | jaj, worked for me |
| 21:07.52 | Zorkman | URL for RSS 2.0 feed |
| 21:07.52 | Zorkman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.57 | Dave | though I had to manually install ALL the pidgin packages which was a pain |
| 21:08.00 | ieatlint | Infoport, bock beers rule :) |
| 21:08.02 | white_gecko | jaj: i have jsut installed pidgin |
| 21:08.06 | white_gecko | just |
| 21:08.12 | phrozen77 | jaj, did you add scaredycats repo? |
| 21:08.15 | Dave | ieatlint, you and your german fetishes |
| 21:08.16 | Dave | :p |
| 21:08.23 | Dave | I got them off celtune |
| 21:08.25 | phrozen77 | HEY |
| 21:08.27 | jaj | phrozen77: nope |
| 21:08.32 | Zorkman | I drank bock beer once.. can't really remember the taste though :( |
| 21:08.36 | phrozen77 | Dave, i saw what you wrote there! |
| 21:08.39 | ieatlint | Dave, hey, i go with what works |
| 21:08.40 | phrozen77 | >_< |
| 21:08.43 | ieatlint | although too many german beers suck |
| 21:08.45 | Dave | Zorkman, were you date raped? :O |
| 21:08.48 | phrozen77 | ieatlint, WAT |
| 21:08.50 | phrozen77 | :) |
| 21:08.52 | Dave | lint, haha |
| 21:08.52 | Zorkman | hehehe :) |
| 21:08.53 | Dave | ;) |
| 21:09.01 | jaj | weihenstephan FTW |
| 21:09.07 | ieatlint | i said a lot of german beers suck :P |
| 21:09.07 | Dave | phrozen, what did I write? |
| 21:09.11 | Dave | :D |
| 21:09.20 | phrozen77 | <Dave> ieatlint, you and your german fetishes |
| 21:09.20 | piti | should I change Mic1 ? (or maybe that's useful for lefthanded people) |
| 21:09.21 | ieatlint | generic pilsener crap :P |
| 21:09.22 | phrozen77 | o_O |
| 21:09.25 | Infoport | Barbar (Belgian) is a winter bock (or they spelled it Bok) Very malty dcark beers, usually stronger |
| 21:09.37 | ieatlint | jetzt bist du aufgeregt? ;) |
| 21:09.44 | Dave | I'm going to hunt down Infoport |
| 21:09.48 | Dave | but first, Kenyoung! |
| 21:09.50 | phrozen77 | JA |
| 21:09.52 | phrozen77 | *g* |
| 21:09.54 | Dave | He's on my hitlist. |
| 21:09.56 | Zorkman | but we have way better beers than Barbar, you should try all of our "trappisten" |
| 21:10.16 | w_erase | Someone having FSO with power saving working properly here ? |
| 21:10.16 | jaj | Zorkman: westvleeteren |
| 21:10.25 | Zorkman | jaj: yeah, that one is really good |
| 21:10.31 | phrozen77 | for anyone who is into german beers -> try augustiner bräu |
| 21:10.40 | iperr1 | can some kind soul point me to the location of the app sources for the om2008 image? the wiki says they're publically available but i can't seem to find the link. |
| 21:10.45 | jaj | Zorkman: it's No. 1 worldwide according to beeradvocate.com |
| 21:10.53 | Zorkman | we also have a beer calles "augustijn" :) |
| 21:10.54 | phrozen77 | iperr1, its in the wiki |
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| 21:11.15 | phrozen77 | Zorkman, IMITATORS! |
| 21:11.16 | phrozen77 | :) |
| 21:11.17 | Zorkman | lately our karmeliet also recieved a price i think, it's brewed <50km from my home |
| 21:11.32 | jaj | augustiner from munich is really nice |
| 21:11.43 | Dave | ieatlint, so who's brining the beer? :P |
| 21:11.44 | phrozen77 | jaj, yep |
| 21:11.51 | ieatlint | zorkman is |
| 21:11.55 | ieatlint | Zorkman, bring palm |
| 21:11.57 | Dave | err |
| 21:12.08 | phrozen77 | thats why i mentioned it |
| 21:12.08 | Dave | I hope he doesn't get jacked en route :P |
| 21:12.18 | Dave | I hope he doesn't have to pay duties on it, either |
| 21:12.24 | Dave | if he's packing his luggage with it :) |
| 21:12.28 | Zorkman | palm is nothing special |
| 21:12.34 | jaj | will anybody of you be at the 25c3? |
| 21:12.44 | ieatlint | i like palm |
| 21:12.54 | ieatlint | and it's unobtainable here... like altbier :( |
| 21:12.55 | phrozen77 | jaj, prolly not :( |
| 21:13.12 | Dave | aww |
| 21:13.16 | Zorkman | you guys should also try Duvel and Kasteelbier |
| 21:13.26 | Dave | You guys should try some fine wines. |
| 21:13.33 | Dave | better yet |
| 21:13.40 | Dave | we should all get together and make our OWN beer(s)! |
| 21:13.41 | Zorkman | or Deus Brut De Flandres! |
| 21:13.46 | Dave | What a great use of a linux group :P |
| 21:13.47 | Dave | haha |
| 21:13.52 | phrozen77 | gimme weed anytime over beer |
| 21:13.54 | phrozen77 | :) |
| 21:13.54 | Dave | Our brewery runs on linux? |
| 21:14.00 | ieatlint | Zorkman, you flemish or walloons? |
| 21:14.05 | Zorkman | flemish |
| 21:14.06 | Dave | hehe |
| 21:14.09 | Dave | ah, good |
| 21:14.12 | ieatlint | good :P |
| 21:14.15 | Dave | indeed :D |
| 21:14.18 | Infoport | Dave well tonight I'll be at Brizz pizza soon! They have a Monday night special, $1.50 domestic craft beers. Unfortunately since winter ended they only have one local Bock beer, but other good ones like Loose Cannon IPA, Bell's beers, and ~15 more |
| 21:14.19 | Zorkman | :D |
| 21:14.27 | Zorkman | didn't infoport brew his own beer? |
| 21:14.50 | Dave | Here at princeton they've got a couple great small breweries :D |
| 21:14.55 | Zorkman | i think he does, at least some american FR user does |
| 21:14.57 | Dave | they're quite well known |
| 21:15.04 | Infoport | Zorkman I am an amateur brewer, with a local brew club (I'm just getting started) |
| 21:15.11 | Dave | haha |
| 21:15.15 | Dave | local brew club? |
| 21:15.33 | ieatlint | anyway, i'm off for the rest of the day |
| 21:15.35 | ieatlint | cya |
| 21:15.37 | Zorkman | Infoport: do you export :p |
| 21:15.44 | Zorkman | ok, bye ieatlint |
| 21:16.08 | Infoport | There was a Summertime Brews Festival here on Saturday, and the Battleground Brewers Guild had our new bar built and going...17 different beers entered by our brewers!! |
| 21:16.16 | phrozen77 | Zorkman, so will there be any weed at the party? =) |
| 21:16.24 | Dave | Infoport, I see you there, brewing your beer! |
| 21:16.27 | Dave | later lintman |
| 21:16.35 | Infoport | That's 17 5-gal kegs entered for consumption, not really a contest |
| 21:16.37 | jaj | you should also try Kwak and all the stuff from Lindemans |
| 21:16.49 | Gromgull | damn - after flashing everything it still hangs after "kernel starting..." |
| 21:16.52 | Dave | Distance to Infoport: 689.471km |
| 21:16.58 | wurp2|working | Dave: Is there some way to check the tangogps public positions through a web browser? |
| 21:17.09 | Dave | wurp, not as of presently, no :( |
| 21:17.18 | Dave | I'm working on getting that happening, since I'd really like it :) |
| 21:17.28 | Dave | It's totally useful, and would only further encourage the use of tango :) |
| 21:17.41 | Zorkman | phrozen77: if you want i can get some, I normally don't have any with me, but that should be no problem |
| 21:17.49 | Gromgull | ah - but there we go - ah - funny boot-splash :) |
| 21:17.53 | Infoport | Zorkman exporting it would bruise it, but I need to brew more. Another brewer offered to do brew sessions with me, so I will brew later this week/next |
| 21:17.57 | phrozen77 | Zorkman, that'd be just great |
| 21:17.57 | phrozen77 | :) |
| 21:18.12 | Dave | plus exporting it would likely cost a lot |
| 21:18.24 | Dave | Make FIC pay for it :P |
| 21:18.26 | Zorkman | Infoport: when you're ever in Europe, let me know, maybe you can bring a sample :) |
| 21:18.44 | Dave | I'll bring you a freerunner :P |
| 21:18.56 | Dave | and some women |
| 21:19.07 | Zorkman | hehe, american women? :p |
| 21:19.12 | Infoport | true Dave-- I have been brewing from kits, and it doesn't cost a lot less but it is better. When you go all-grain, it gets cheaper, but takes more equipment |
| 21:19.14 | Zorkman | bring me a FR and a sony digital reader ;-) |
| 21:19.17 | Dave | ZOrkman, nope |
| 21:19.22 | Dave | Nederlanders :P |
| 21:19.27 | Dave | \o/ |
| 21:19.29 | Zorkman | "hollandse hoeren"? |
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| 21:19.35 | Dave | lollerse |
| 21:19.35 | Dave | no! |
| 21:19.37 | Dave | :P |
| 21:19.39 | phrozen77 | hoeren? whores? |
| 21:19.47 | Dave | good guess |
| 21:19.49 | Zorkman | yeah, dutch whores |
| 21:19.56 | Dave | hey, they're hot, right? |
| 21:20.05 | phrozen77 | Dave, im german so i can understand written dutch quite a bit |
| 21:20.06 | Dave | But nah :) |
| 21:20.10 | Dave | yep |
| 21:20.15 | Dave | and the other way around >:) |
| 21:20.24 | Dave | all your nouns are belong to us! |
| 21:20.25 | jaj | phrozen77: it was not really difficult to guess though ;) |
| 21:20.26 | Dave | ha ha ha ha |
| 21:20.32 | phrozen77 | in related news - was macht denn das ganze stroh hier? |
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| 21:20.39 | phrozen77 | Dave, you know that vid? |
| 21:20.51 | jaj | it's "warum liegt denn hier stroh" |
| 21:20.55 | phrozen77 | ^^ |
| 21:21.25 | Infoport | Dave, Zorkman, well I might bring a sample for you, but I would be embarassed to put my beers up against Belgian and German beers on tap. |
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| 21:22.03 | Zorkman | nah, since I will know you brewed it yourself I'm sure i'll like it, homemade stuff always tastes special :) |
| 21:22.14 | Dave | Infoport, well, I'm not german, so you have nothing to worry about. |
| 21:22.25 | Dave | In other news, I see you on the tango friends map! |
| 21:22.31 | Dave | So I'm going to come stalk you soon :P |
| 21:22.34 | phrozen77 | Dave, http://www.myvideo.de/watch/273800/Warum_liegt_hier_ueberhaupt_stroh |
| 21:22.36 | Zorkman | :D |
| 21:22.39 | phrozen77 | watch it |
| 21:23.23 | Dave | loller.de |
| 21:23.29 | jaj | flash #@!@#! |
| 21:23.32 | phrozen77 | watched it? |
| 21:23.34 | Dave | haha yeah, fuck that |
| 21:23.39 | Zorkman | germany, home of all the nasty pr0n in the world |
| 21:23.39 | Dave | lollerdeutschen |
| 21:23.43 | Dave | apparently |
| 21:23.45 | Dave | ~_~ |
| 21:23.46 | apt | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 21:23.50 | phrozen77 | WAT |
| 21:23.53 | Dave | apt: YOU SUCK |
| 21:23.54 | apt | and very well I might add |
| 21:23.57 | Dave | ;D |
| 21:23.58 | phrozen77 | LOL |
| 21:24.00 | Dave | pets apt |
| 21:24.10 | Dave | good bot >:) |
| 21:24.38 | Infoport | that is another advantage of the Brewers Guild (club) -- at the monthly meetings there is a 5gal keg or two, and then many other brewers bring several bottles to share around. We have about 75 members, half regularly show up, and 16 of us have ~50 hops plants with budding cones in a co-op |
| 21:24.49 | Dave | You have a GUILD now!? |
| 21:24.56 | Dave | ooh la la |
| 21:25.28 | Zorkman | it's a game! |
| 21:25.36 | Zorkman | he has a guild and he plays co-op :) |
| 21:26.32 | Zorkman | There are a few shops in ghent that i know that also sell stuff to brew your own beer |
| 21:26.44 | Dave | uggh |
| 21:26.46 | Infoport | Dave, :D yeah, although it isnt commercial so more like a club. We enter events, share advice, share beer, help find equipment cheaply... there was an historic battle nearby, and there are roads named Battleground, parks, etc, so we are Battleground Brewers Guid (some people are out of the main city, so didnt use that name) |
| 21:26.50 | Zorkman | but it's mostly pre-mixed stuff |
| 21:27.01 | Dave | Massive Multiplayer Online Beer Brewing Game? |
| 21:27.12 | Dave | infoport, sounds hot and kinky |
| 21:27.17 | Dave | and highly alcoholic :P |
| 21:27.28 | Dave | oh and infoport, that's what you get for living in the south :p |
| 21:27.47 | Dave | or the middle of nowhere, your pick :) |
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| 21:27.54 | Zorkman | Dave: when are you going hunting for lazy lulu? |
| 21:28.02 | Dave | screw them |
| 21:28.13 | Dave | I already explained my opinions on that subject earlier today. |
| 21:28.27 | Infoport | we have a good homebrew shop that sells both kits and grains, and keeps liquid yeast vials in a fridge after receiving chilled two-day shipment. Also get 5gal soda-kegs, which clean easily to be beer kegs |
| 21:28.42 | Dave | Infoport, yalls be hillbillies |
| 21:28.46 | Dave | ;p |
| 21:29.19 | Infoport | Dave some around here, but my friend who got me brewing is a chemist, and so is the homebrew shop owner |
| 21:29.42 | Infoport | I live in one of them thar BIG citiesd |
| 21:29.57 | Zorkman | can you get shot in your city infoport? |
| 21:30.02 | Dave | I think you mean alchemist :P |
| 21:30.10 | Dave | infoport, I'm surprised you're not into guns... |
| 21:30.11 | Zorkman | and does your town has better nigga's then Dave's town? |
| 21:30.14 | Dave | or maybe you're into that too |
| 21:30.21 | Dave | Zorkman, highly unlikely |
| 21:30.25 | Zorkman | BEER-GUNS! |
| 21:30.27 | lambda | i can't lock the device under fso-testing ; is it normal issue ? |
| 21:30.29 | Infoport | Zorkman you can get shot in ANY city, but around here only in neighborhoods I've never heard of |
| 21:30.35 | Dave | For we be big pimpin' up in NYC /o/ |
| 21:30.59 | Dave | like Crackton, Bumsville, or Whoretopia? |
| 21:31.16 | Zorkman | we're more boring.. although people, are learning, we finally have some gans fighting eachother in our capital... progress!! |
| 21:31.29 | Infoport | Dave I like target shooting with handguns, but as a vegetarian I don't hunt (no pickup truck, no gun rack) |
| 21:31.29 | Dave | haha, cough |
| 21:31.32 | Zorkman | Whoretopia, that is a good name for a FR OS |
| 21:31.38 | Dave | heehee, okay :) |
| 21:31.41 | Dave | haha |
| 21:31.45 | Dave | Better than Qtopia, that's for sure |
| 21:31.53 | Dave | in which the Q most likely stands for Queer |
| 21:31.56 | Dave | just ask Leinir |
| 21:32.00 | Dave | :P |
| 21:32.12 | Dave | Anyhoo, I'm out. Time to ride >:) |
| 21:32.20 | phrozen77 | http://www.borza.ro/index.php/2008/08/11/video-openmoko-neo-freerunner-does-motion-gestures-and-screen-orientation/ |
| 21:32.30 | phrozen77 | screen orientation - great |
| 21:32.35 | Infoport | I drive VWs only-- have a Karmann Ghia, a Beetle, a 181 (French MP "Thing") and a07 Eos, wife drives a Passat |
| 21:32.43 | Dave | hops in his roflcopter and lollerflies over to drop lmaobombs on lazy lulu |
| 21:33.03 | Dave | infoport: kinky |
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| 21:33.14 | Zorkman | heheh gogo Dave |
| 21:33.37 | Infoport | couldnt find what the best Belgian car was around here ;) |
| 21:33.50 | Zorkman | hehe, we have no cars, we're all amish! |
| 21:34.09 | Zorkman | we detest technologie, therefore we buy freerunners, that is safe because they don't work |
| 21:35.10 | Bill_ | lol |
| 21:35.12 | Infoport | hehehe Zorkman |
| 21:35.13 | wurp2|working | Dave: OK, I was just curious how you were tracking people on tango :-) No one every shows up near me... maybe I just need to connect to gprs and climb back out to level 4 or something |
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| 21:36.54 | Zorkman | wurp2|working: that is because you're in the middle of the fricking ocean! :) |
| 21:37.01 | Zorkman | although it seemls quite crowded there |
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| 21:37.51 | wurp2|working | Zorkman: well, I'm there until I get a fix |
| 21:38.02 | wurp2|working | But I don't ever see anyone near Dallas/Fort Worth, either |
| 21:38.22 | wurp2|working | Maybe I just don't have friends display turned on or something |
| 21:38.50 | wurp2|working | I was amused the first time I zoomed down to level 15 at 0,0 |
| 21:39.06 | white_gecko | Daenyth: did you find something for the cairo problem? |
| 21:39.28 | white_gecko | Daenyth: or how could i help to solve the problem? |
| 21:40.56 | retracile | wurp2|working: I'm in DFW, but not publishing my gps coords. |
| 21:41.26 | Zorkman | I would have expected more americans on the map... |
| 21:41.34 | wurp2|working | Yeah, I knew I had talked to a couple of people with neos in DFW |
| 21:41.42 | Zorkman | if you compare it with germany for example... |
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| 21:52.44 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r7a6e17f13165 10/packages/espeak/espeak_1.35.bb: [espeak] Add portaudio-v19 to the depends so linking is working |
| 21:52.47 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r602667b985ea 10/packages/tasks/task-openmoko-asu.bb: [tasks-openmoko-asu] Split out connman and gtk+ to save for gta01 |
| 21:52.50 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * ra2f34ffc71a8 10/packages/tasks/ (4 files): [tasks] Set PACKAGE_ARCH so it has an effect |
| 21:52.55 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rf17808591dd2 10/packages/tasks/ (3 files): [tasks] Remove ALLOW_EMPTY=1 as task.bbclass is already setting that |
| 21:52.58 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03dp 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r4735db9cfd15 10/packages/hal/hal_0.5.9.bb: hal: create volatiles *after* creating the haldaemon user |
| 21:53.01 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03dp 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r1ac52e53492c 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [python-setuptools] import a fix from OE which means we now have |
| 21:53.06 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * ra35dc9af9a89 10/packages/openmoko-projects/illume-config_svn.bb: [illume-config] Fix a bug in illume-config when do alternative |
| 21:53.09 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r2d1aac02b6bb 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [linux-openmoko] Remove the evbug removal as it was removed upstream too |
| 21:53.14 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r57143c44cd2a 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade the linux kernel to the latest stable version |
| 21:53.19 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rb86bdb48442a 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade to the latest stable kernel (hardware ecc preparations) |
| 21:53.22 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rc2f5aff5b6fd 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade Qtopia to see if #1766 (No Network) is fixed |
| 21:53.25 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r4130aeb4b492 10/ (21 files in 10 dirs): Merge commit 'origin/org.openmoko.asu.testing' into org.openmoko.asu.stable |
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| 21:55.38 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * rbb6756bd737e 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: ompower - try race cond workaround. |
| 21:55.40 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * r16b206b78bec 10/ (97 files in 5 dirs): move all of e17/efl to svn from cvs. |
| 21:55.41 | CIA-48 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * r51220f203674 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: cleanups to ompower. |
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| 22:01.02 | jucs | Good night! |
| 22:04.17 | Infoport | ok I've got to wrestle a Windoze computer to update so I can install printer driver so I can print pizza coupon before going to bar (don't EVER buy a Lexmark printer, no matter how cheap a price!!) |
| 22:04.35 | ike | yawns. |
| 22:04.49 | ShellEvil | passes Infoport some tracing paper, and blu-tak to attach it to screen. |
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| 22:06.08 | Infoport | doh! wish I'd thought of tracing paper first-- it doesn't need virus update (nor Carbon Genuine Advantage, nor paper drivers) |
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| 22:16.57 | white_gecko | Daenyth: ok, so i'll waint until somebody else fixes it |
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| 22:20.29 | white_gecko | is there a way to make a backup of my current configuration or better the whole freerunner, bacause i want to try 2008.8 |
| 22:20.43 | Ark1 | whats with all the stuff cia-48 posted? |
| 22:21.50 | white_gecko | i will boot from sd |
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| 22:30.46 | swc|666 | white_gecko: read the backup section here :http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner |
| 22:31.06 | swc|666 | or do u mean flash rom? |
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| 22:38.02 | Dave | hells yeah |
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| 22:40.50 | Dave | viruses |
| 22:40.52 | Dave | retraciles |
| 22:40.59 | Dave | bewholed! |
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| 22:44.10 | Yashy | Can one manually edit their addressbook/SIM card? |
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| 22:45.31 | CVirus | Dave: stfu |
| 22:46.04 | Dave | throws capsules at Cvirus, Dr-mario style |
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| 22:47.34 | Arcne1 | :-D |
| 22:47.47 | Dave | arcnet! |
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| 22:50.55 | Yashy | also wondering in 2007.2 if there is a way to alter the ring volume to vibrate only? |
| 22:51.10 | Dave | probably |
| 22:51.46 | Yashy | look for a little more specific pointer :) |
| 22:52.01 | Dave | hehe :P |
| 22:52.09 | Yashy | looking rather |
| 22:53.41 | Dave | Sorry, I'm not sure :) |
| 22:54.06 | Dave | But it's probably some setting/configuration/code having to do with the dialer program, I'd think, maybe not |
| 22:54.16 | Dave | I wouldn't know, I'm not too into the phone as an actual phone :) |
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| 23:08.38 | SpeedEvil | ponders changing the topic to 'What - you want it to work as an actual phone? hahahha." |
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| 23:11.50 | mwester | notes that the beginning of the topic is cut off with XChat, so it reads "IT WILL NEVER EVER WORK..." here |
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| 23:17.25 | slaxxin | its 2008.8 an wait i guess |
| 23:18.09 | slaxxin | i dont wamma mess with qtopia |
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