| 00:00.07 | Flinx | kay |
| 00:00.21 | hipitihop | Flinx, so you can setup you sd with fat + ext2 and then simply boot into uboot and use second menu item whenever you want to boot from sd. that's what I do |
| 00:00.42 | torindel | Flinx: just fix uboot and setup single partition ext2/ext3 boot ;] |
| 00:00.45 | Flinx | hrm, |
| 00:00.57 | Flinx | it seems to already have stuff on it >.< |
| 00:00.59 | hipitihop | torindel, thanks looking at frameworkd |
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| 00:03.50 | Flinx | might just be easier to re-flash |
| 00:04.16 | Dave | Give me my audio device back! |
| 00:04.21 | Dave | Damn you :[ |
| 00:04.33 | Flinx | Dave, I don't have it? |
| 00:05.21 | Dave | Oh :| |
| 00:05.36 | Flinx | try an updated kernel? |
| 00:05.38 | Dave | Then ... o/` who stole the audio from the openmoko o/` |
| 00:05.42 | mmontour | Dave: module problem? Does "lsmod" show a bunch of "snd-*" modules? |
| 00:05.43 | Dave | yep |
| 00:05.49 | Dave | I updated and it's still missing |
| 00:06.26 | mmontour | Which device is missing? |
| 00:06.28 | Dave | montour, interestingly enough there is! |
| 00:06.44 | Dave | missing? |
| 00:06.48 | Dave | audio / dsp |
| 00:07.26 | torindel | Dave: check in /dev/snd |
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| 00:07.43 | Dave | hmm |
| 00:07.44 | mmontour | Check for the snd-pcm-oss module |
| 00:07.47 | Dave | yeah? |
| 00:07.57 | torindel | Dave: pastebin ls /dev/snd |
| 00:08.05 | Dave | there is none |
| 00:08.05 | hipitihop | I'm trying to install gestures on latest fso, it depends on libnotify but do not have such in the feeds. Is libenotify0 the same thing ? |
| 00:08.10 | Dave | mmontour, it's not loaded anyway |
| 00:08.40 | Flinx-Away | actually I gonna reboot |
| 00:08.42 | mmontour | Try to modprobe it, or "opkg install" its package if it's not there. |
| 00:08.54 | Dave | hmm |
| 00:09.09 | Dave | montour it didn't load it :| |
| 00:10.02 | Dave | By the way, before I got this when updating: FATAL: Error inserting snd_soc_neo1973_wm8753 (/lib/modules/2.6.24/kernel/sound/soc/s3c24xx/snd-soc-neo1973-wm8753.ko): No such device |
| 00:10.14 | Dave | but that's probably just because it was missing, when the update ran :P |
| 00:10.53 | torindel | Dave: tryied some older working rootfs+kernel? |
| 00:11.08 | Dave | I WAS |
| 00:11.15 | torindel | and? |
| 00:11.18 | Dave | nothing |
| 00:11.23 | Dave | then changed to a newer one and no |
| 00:11.26 | Dave | shitty |
| 00:11.33 | Dave | who stoled my audioz! |
| 00:11.44 | mmontour | I'd try "opkg install kernel-module-snd-pcm-oss" (or something like that). If that doesn't help, then I dunno (and I don't have access to my FR right now) |
| 00:13.08 | Dave | fuck |
| 00:13.16 | Dave | simplyinstalled in root is up to date o_O |
| 00:14.55 | Dave | wtfbbq |
| 00:17.15 | hipitihop | can someone point me to an libnotify.ipk or a feed so I can install on my fso ? |
| 00:19.00 | Dave | bah |
| 00:19.03 | Dave | fso |
| 00:19.24 | hipitihop | Dave, what r u running ? |
| 00:19.42 | Dave | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/libnotify_0.4.4-r0_armv4t.ipk ? |
| 00:19.50 | Dave | hipitihop, hmm? |
| 00:20.51 | hipitihop | Dave, happen to know if that feed is compatible with the latest fso ? |
| 00:22.03 | Dave | nope |
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| 20:34.53 | *** topic/#openmoko is Developers, please join #openmoko-cdevel | DO NOT USE buildhost.openmoko.org TO UPGRADE 2008.8 IT WILL NEVER EVER WORK | Freerunner is in stock in some resellers. | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Quickstart | Software status - NOT a stable phone yet. | See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems | Keyboard numbers for 2008.8 : slide finger up on the keyboard |
| 20:35.55 | fuzz_78_2 | The first package I try to install: opkg install gpsd |
| 20:35.55 | fuzz_78_2 | Nothing to be done |
| 20:35.55 | fuzz_78_2 | An error ocurred, return value: 4. |
| 20:35.56 | fuzz_78_2 | Collected errors: |
| 20:35.56 | fuzz_78_2 | Cannot find package gpsd. |
| 20:35.56 | fuzz_78_2 | Check the spelling or perhaps run 'opkg update' |
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| 20:36.48 | fuzz_78_2 | I followed the "getting started guide" - but something must be missing? |
| 20:37.38 | DaveLab | fuzz, do you have internet connectivity on your device? did you first do an opkg update? |
| 20:37.52 | fuzz_78_2 | DaveLab: yes and yes |
| 20:37.58 | DaveLab | :| |
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| 20:38.04 | DaveLab | are you sure it downloaded stuff? :P |
| 20:38.08 | DaveLab | heh well then |
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| 20:38.13 | DaveLab | install it directly |
| 20:38.48 | DaveLab | opkg install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/gpsd_2.34-r9_armv4t.ipk |
| 20:39.34 | fuzz_78_2 | I'll try to update again first |
| 20:39.56 | fuzz_78_2 | It writes things like: opkg update |
| 20:39.56 | fuzz_78_2 | Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz |
| 20:39.56 | fuzz_78_2 | Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.sig |
| 20:39.56 | fuzz_78_2 | Signature check failed |
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| 20:40.58 | DaveLab | stupid pythons |
| 20:41.00 | fuzz_78_2 | I also wondered why there was no packages to update - something must be wrong :) |
| 20:42.33 | fuzz_78_2 | ok. I should read what it prints out: |
| 20:42.35 | fuzz_78_2 | Collected errors: |
| 20:42.35 | fuzz_78_2 | Failed to download http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz, error 0 |
| 20:42.46 | fuzz_78_2 | and it countinues like that |
| 20:42.52 | fuzz_78_2 | ah, missing dns |
| 20:42.56 | DaveLab | If it fails to download the .gz's you're fucked |
| 20:43.01 | DaveLab | yeah, don't forget to set a nameserver! |
| 20:43.01 | DaveLab | :D |
| 20:43.09 | DaveLab | edit your /etc/resolv.conf :P |
| 20:43.37 | fuzz_78_2 | thanks |
| 20:44.38 | DaveLab | yep :) |
| 20:45.09 | DaveLab | henkie, Tanuva, so who was trying mplayer tricks out and playing with video playback? |
| 20:45.16 | DaveLab | s/playing/tinkering/ |
| 20:45.21 | DaveLab | fuck you, apt |
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| 20:47.57 | thewtex_ | s/type/typo |
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| 20:59.58 | DaveLab | holy defunct glamos radioactive man! |
| 21:00.38 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: slow in what way? |
| 21:01.55 | lindi-_ | AntonTakk: e17 svn built but illume doesn't: http://rafb.net/p/bqm0GR13.html |
| 21:02.15 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-_: it takes 36 seconds to do an apt-get update |
| 21:02.17 | SUNWjoejaxx | lol |
| 21:02.23 | DaveLab | Oh man, PYTHON IS SO COOL! |
| 21:02.29 | DaveLab | > MemoryError |
| 21:02.37 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: 36 seconds sounds quite fast :) |
| 21:02.54 | DaveLab | better than a 300second opkg upgrade? :P |
| 21:03.04 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: what about "apt-get update -o Acquire::PDiffs=false"? |
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| 21:05.21 | flinx | Silly question.. |
| 21:05.32 | flinx | is there a link to the nabble forums from the wiki? |
| 21:05.33 | SUNWjoejaxx | that and it takes forever for zhone to come up; once zhone does come up the interface is non-responsive for a while |
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| 21:07.24 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-_: without the PDiffs? i will check |
| 21:08.03 | flinx | rawer |
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| 21:09.07 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-_: but i am more concered about the interface being slow |
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| 21:09.23 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-_: not donwloading the package index diffs shortens it :P |
| 21:11.06 | SUNWjoejaxx | grrr |
| 21:11.13 | SUNWjoejaxx | s/donwloading/downloading/ |
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| 21:11.37 | DaveLab | MEMORY ERROR |
| 21:12.25 | SUNWjoejaxx | DaveLab: memtest |
| 21:12.28 | SUNWjoejaxx | DaveLab: haha |
| 21:13.08 | DaveLab | blame python |
| 21:13.44 | DaveLab | I totally don't see the problem, awesome. |
| 21:13.48 | DaveLab | Time for debugging, woo. |
| 21:13.50 | mmontour | DaveLab: I'll see your memory error and raise you a "FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 92699784395.68472, expected: 93342477789.55545" from the www.mersenne.org prime-number stress test. |
| 21:13.52 | DaveLab | rolls his eyes |
| 21:14.03 | DaveLab | mmountour :D |
| 21:14.04 | DaveLab | haha |
| 21:14.24 | DaveLab | it definitely can't beat the hilarity of my opkg fatal error yesterday :P |
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| 21:14.36 | SUNWjoejaxx | something also tells me it is not worth having it installed on the open moko |
| 21:14.38 | SUNWjoejaxx | since |
| 21:14.39 | SUNWjoejaxx | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 21:14.39 | SUNWjoejaxx | rootfs 462M 360M 78M 83% / |
| 21:14.47 | SUNWjoejaxx | is kind of ridiculous for a phone |
| 21:14.48 | SUNWjoejaxx | :P |
| 21:15.02 | DaveLab | It's like, oh hi, we'll just upgrade your audio driver right now... OMFG WHERE'D YOUR SOUND DEVICE GO!?!?! ERROR ERROR... ABORT ABORT! EJECT... FATAL FATAL... GAMEOVER MAN, GAMEOVER! |
| 21:15.11 | DaveLab | or even more suspicious, error: -3 |
| 21:15.20 | DaveLab | What's that about, right? :p |
| 21:15.43 | DaveLab | but yeah, I like errors like that, Mmontour, where: |
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| 21:16.06 | DaveLab | Error: recv expected 76213 bytes to read; received 76213 bytes. |
| 21:16.17 | DaveLab | It's like if else do the same thing |
| 21:16.23 | DaveLab | oy |
| 21:18.38 | DaveLab | ronny, you around man? |
| 21:18.39 | dent | hi |
| 21:18.42 | DaveLab | Hello dent :) |
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| 21:19.04 | Sargun | Dent, Arthur Dent? |
| 21:19.24 | dent | Sargun: not really :) |
| 21:19.52 | dent | anyway... why I woken up from the dead was to ask: what was the name of the 2d shooter game that was by default included in, I think, 2007.2 |
| 21:20.12 | Sargun | Doom? |
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| 21:20.19 | DaveLab | hahaha no |
| 21:20.19 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: interface is slow since it is xorg with fbdev |
| 21:20.22 | DaveLab | Kobo Deluxe? |
| 21:20.23 | Tanuva | wasnt it this scroller-thing.. |
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| 21:20.27 | Tanuva | DaveLab: ! |
| 21:20.30 | dent | aaa kobo deluxe, thanks :) |
| 21:20.38 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: try with glamo |
| 21:20.45 | DaveLab | Who what now? |
| 21:20.48 | DaveLab | Tanuva, yes? |
| 21:20.54 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: and, please figure out a way to measure this objectively |
| 21:20.55 | Tanuva | DaveLab: kobo's right |
| 21:21.30 | dent | btw. when my FR is off, I press the power button, then I hear some funny noise for a sec - is that normal/expected? |
| 21:21.32 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-_: measure which? :P |
| 21:21.39 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: but it's the only way to get free software phone ;) (hint, fso ships non-free ringtone :PP) |
| 21:21.44 | DaveLab | dent, yes |
| 21:21.45 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: measure interface speed |
| 21:21.47 | DaveLab | it is normal |
| 21:21.48 | dent | ok :) |
| 21:22.02 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-_: i was comparing this to qtopia and 2007.2/2008.8 |
| 21:22.17 | lindi-_ | SUNWjoejaxx: yes yes but can i measure this somehow automatically? |
| 21:22.52 | DaveLab | woo |
| 21:22.59 | DaveLab | meanwhile, back in python land |
| 21:23.14 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-: sure |
| 21:23.33 | SUNWjoejaxx | lindi-: in the others when clicking on a interface button things happen :P |
| 21:23.55 | lindi- | SUNWjoejaxx: since i'd like to see comparison between xorg fbdev, xfbdev and kdrive-xglamo |
| 21:24.06 | lindi- | SUNWjoejaxx: in both landscape and portrait mode |
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| 21:24.49 | dent | hm, strange thing... I powered on the FR, connected to USB and on the host I see: usb 6-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 21:25.02 | Yashy | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ Where are the last 5 days? |
| 21:25.04 | dent | I saw this before, then it mysteriously disappeared and usb worked ok |
| 21:25.33 | DaveLab | grr |
| 21:25.34 | DaveLab | stupid time :D |
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| 21:25.50 | DaveLab | Where's the wiki entry on setting TZ? |
| 21:25.56 | DaveLab | or the ntp solution |
| 21:26.21 | Yashy | DaveLab: http://hackepedia.org/?title=Neo_freerunner#Adjusting_the_time worked for me |
| 21:27.39 | Sargun | If I'm writing an application in Python, what is the best way to go about it: |
| 21:27.42 | Sargun | -GTK |
| 21:27.46 | Sargun | -Framebuffer |
| 21:27.47 | Sargun | -PyQT |
| 21:28.25 | DaveLab | eh |
| 21:28.35 | DaveLab | Sargun :) |
| 21:28.43 | leinir | PyQt, of coruse :) |
| 21:28.43 | DaveLab | We're in a similar boat :) |
| 21:28.43 | Sargun | DaveLab, :-) |
| 21:28.50 | ronny | DaveLab: kinda busy with hacking on vellum, some vala widget and some python stuff |
| 21:28.53 | leinir | s/coruse/course |
| 21:29.00 | DaveLab | Don't listen to leinir, she's a traitor :P |
| 21:29.10 | DaveLab | ronny, okay okay :P |
| 21:29.13 | leinir | It, thankyouverymuch ;) |
| 21:29.22 | DaveLab | o.O |
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| 21:29.50 | leinir | points to chest "no boobies!" ;) |
| 21:30.08 | zash | I heard boobies? |
| 21:30.10 | zash | WHERE? |
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| 21:30.45 | leinir | zash: Somewhere that isn't on my chest is where ;) |
| 21:31.05 | tim_abell | hi guys. i haven't been able to make calls for a day or so under asu, I'm getting "not registered" which is odd, because it worked for a while. anything I can look at for troubleshooting? |
| 21:31.06 | zash | ok, check |
| 21:33.34 | cyberrex | does anyone know if uboot can pass commandline parameters to the kernel? |
| 21:33.59 | mmontour | cyberrex: yes, through the "bootargs" variable |
| 21:34.23 | cyberrex | mmontour: ahh ... thank you |
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| 21:35.13 | lloyd_fedora | is there a uboot entry by default in the freerunner for booting from SD |
| 21:35.49 | cyberrex | lloyd_fedora: yes, i'm looking at it right now |
| 21:36.25 | lloyd_fedora | cyberrex: good .. i thought i fcked somethin up |
| 21:36.25 | Yashy | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ What has happened to the last 5 days worth of images? |
| 21:38.27 | DaveLab | oh and whoever, that hackepedia time thing did nothing |
| 21:38.31 | DaveLab | the ntp is borked |
| 21:39.53 | Yashy | strange, worked for me |
| 21:40.02 | jucs | Six, as there were only updates for qtopia on the 13th of August... |
| 21:40.03 | DaveLab | It still shows me as being UTC |
| 21:40.08 | DaveLab | or GMT, blah |
| 21:40.15 | DaveLab | weird |
| 21:40.26 | DaveLab | oh |
| 21:40.27 | DaveLab | okay, I see |
| 21:40.35 | DaveLab | so now the X time on the display shows the correct time |
| 21:40.37 | Yashy | DaveLab: I had to restart X or even the whole phone |
| 21:40.40 | DaveLab | but `date` is incorrect |
| 21:40.46 | DaveLab | yashy, yeah I just noticed that ;) |
| 21:40.55 | DaveLab | but date still outputs in UTC |
| 21:40.58 | Yashy | not intuitive, but it works |
| 21:41.00 | DaveLab | I guess this doesn't address that :) |
| 21:41.03 | DaveLab | yeah |
| 21:41.11 | Yashy | restart X and/or the phone, it'll show up in your TZ |
| 21:41.11 | DaveLab | whee |
| 21:41.15 | DaveLab | okay :P |
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| 21:41.25 | DaveLab | hwclock --systohc |
| 21:41.26 | DaveLab | woo |
| 21:41.32 | DaveLab | reboot |
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| 22:27.29 | Weiss | is anyone likely to complain if i just dive in and put my guide to compiling OM from scratch into the OpenEmbedded page of the Wiki? |
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| 22:28.37 | KenYoung | Weiss, THat sounds interesting - how does it differ from MokoMakefile (which is the *only* way I've ever gotten things to build)? |
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| 22:30.25 | Weiss | KenYoung: you set up OE manually, and manually run bitbake to get your image |
| 22:31.22 | SUNWjoejaxx | http://openmoko.com/opportunities.html << anyone know if that Openmoko casing is a real product lol i wish it was |
| 22:31.33 | SUNWjoejaxx | protective casing* |
| 22:32.10 | xmpp | what's your thought on the new android screenshots ? |
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| 22:33.25 | Weiss | KenYoung: i didn't find it too scary to be honest. i had to 'encourage' a few things to compile, but apart from that it just took a long time (12.5 hrs ish on my 2.13Ghz single-core laptop) |
| 22:38.09 | aggtrfrad | <SUNWjoejaxx> http://openmoko.com/opportunities-universities-update.html |
| 22:39.58 | aggtrfrad | pretty cool |
| 22:40.04 | SUNWjoejaxx | yeah |
| 22:40.32 | johnsu01 | does the freerunner do anything to indicate that it is done charging? |
| 22:41.03 | johnsu01 | I see that the red light under the aux button comes on sometimes, and sometimes flickers, but I'm not sure what it means |
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| 22:41.33 | johnsu01 | I'm also wondering if it's going to know when to stop charging this 3rd party battery I have in it now (restoring from a deep discharge) |
| 22:44.11 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r206df24088aa 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: new efl and illume versions - internal kbd now config option. code default is |
| 22:44.11 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rba9d7e0753e1 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): update efl and illume to match to have default configs as test src and |
| 22:44.11 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rcc2a7a8b2dd6 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: update efl and illume to match to have default configs as test src and |
| 22:44.12 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r1ee02a49efa9 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: up ot 178 of illume- fix window list issues. |
| 22:44.13 | aggtrfrad | http://www.sureda.org/Portfolio/Electronics/OpenMoko/Accesories/NeoSkin/OpenMoko-NeoSkin-002.jpg http://www.sureda.org/Portfolio/Electronics/OpenMoko/Accesories/NeoSkin/OpenMoko-NeoSkin-005.jpg |
| 22:44.15 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r77254938e5c8 10/conf/distro/include/ (sane-srcdates.inc sane-srcrevs.inc): update efl and illume to have config for removed spanner , asterisk moved, |
| 22:44.18 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r38236d212062 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: ok. qwerty gone. |
| 22:44.21 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r55b6aee312c2 10/packages/efl1/ (ecore.inc ecore_cvs.bb): ecore shoudl really get xdamag/composite support... if its ever used/desired... |
| 22:44.24 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * re1eba9994332 10/packages/xserver-kdrive-common/ (2 files in 2 dirs): turn on composite at runtime so it can be used.. if u run a compositemanager |
| 22:44.33 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r293536c32b91 10/conf/distro/include/ (sane-srcdates.inc sane-srcrevs.inc): and update efl and illume to fix focus issues qith qtopia and softmenu etc. |
| 22:44.36 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r89fb094a4815 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: and fix up suspend on initial boot if it's slow. final change for asu release |
| 22:44.39 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * read38ec155f7 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc: and efl up - get batget changes to handle new "strange" 'not charging' state. |
| 22:44.42 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * re870c78994f4 10/conf/distro/include/ (sane-srcdates.inc sane-srcrevs.inc): update illume and efl - dockwin (softmenu) works better. looks to me to have |
| 22:44.45 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r9a71a0934c97 10/packages/openmoko-projects/illume-theme_svn.bb: [illume] Remove the leftover from the stable release |
| 22:44.52 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r18078e18b060 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade Xglamo with Chris Ball's xrandr patch |
| 22:44.55 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rcc04dbc69c9a 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade Qtopia with various GSM stability fixes |
| 22:44.58 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rddef1b5f718f 10/packages/openmoko-projects/openmoko-community-repository.bb: [openmoko-community-repository] Modify the URL |
| 22:45.03 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03raster 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r8fb5a68f2681 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: and up illume to fix softmenu |
| 22:45.06 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r5dfbd0cbf396 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade opkg-utils-native to get tick's Size fixes #1803 |
| 22:45.09 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r24a61b61c521 10/packages/efl1/ (ecore.inc ecore_cvs.bb): [ecore] Fix DEPENDS to make the build deterministic |
| 22:45.14 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r4094dddf4d8c 10/packages/efl1/ (evas.inc evas_cvs.bb): [evas] Fix DEPENDS to make the build deterministic |
| 22:45.17 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r5855b01be385 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for alsa-oss |
| 22:45.20 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r7fac7c3a6c87 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for djvulibre |
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| 22:45.25 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r86691448e6cb 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for dotconf |
| 22:45.28 | torindel | spamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspamspam |
| 22:45.28 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rf81e1a410d05 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for espeak |
| 22:45.31 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r84afa13c5e21 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for flite |
| 22:45.34 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r15cd5711b404 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for navit |
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| 22:45.39 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r256dd51c9fbc 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for portaudio |
| 22:45.42 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r44f34d293b1a 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add checksums for speech-dispatcher |
| 22:45.45 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r36707759ab18 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add libgpewidget 0.117 to the checksums |
| 22:45.50 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r67ad5955043f 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add KoboDeluxe to the checksums |
| 22:45.53 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * ra68a0b04e690 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add xwininfo to the checksums |
| 22:45.56 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rd211dda116ec 10/conf/checksums.ini: [checksums] Add gst-python to the checksums |
| 22:45.59 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * rabbcb5a7108e 10/packages/openmoko-projects/illume-config_svn.bb: [illume-config] Fix a bug in illume-config when do alternative |
| 22:46.06 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.stable * r8cc2a0555e7b 10/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Merge commit '8fb5a68f2681c2939fcea7eb0119af36ae2d8f15' of org.openmoko.asu.testing into org.openmoko.asu.stable |
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| 22:46.25 | phrozen77 | thats a good thing |
| 22:46.31 | phrozen77 | otherwise it would have gotten..spammy |
| 22:46.54 | torindel | ;] |
| 22:47.06 | zash | phrozen77: o rly? ;) |
| 22:47.12 | phrozen77 | ya rly |
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| 22:48.50 | SUNWjoejaxx | phrozen77: LOL haha |
| 22:49.17 | phrozen77 | srsly! |
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| 22:53.27 | tim_abell | very quiet in here this evening. what's everyone doing? |
| 22:53.38 | abacathoo | sitting here |
| 22:53.41 | rwhitby | Weiss: just what we need, yet another page of non-executable build instructions for OE :-( |
| 22:53.42 | kd8ikt | i see one group as a flod and the other as informative news |
| 22:54.23 | Weiss | rwhitby: hmm? |
| 22:55.14 | rwhitby | Weiss: there are already pages on the OE site about how to build OE, and there is the MokoMakefile. Why another page, which you probably won't keep up to date and therefore will go stale like the 5 or so other similar pages on the OE and OM wikis |
| 22:55.38 | rwhitby | sorry, it's a pet peeve of mine. |
| 22:55.46 | tim_abell | sony ericsson -> outlook -> voodoo magic --> my data on the freerunner. it's gonna be fun |
| 22:55.54 | Weiss | rwhitby: hmm, i hadn't come across any of those.. |
| 22:56.08 | rwhitby | you hadn't come across the MokoMakefile? |
| 22:56.22 | Weiss | oh, i knew about that of course |
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| 22:56.55 | Weiss | nothing that explained how to get the OM OE environment and run it |
| 22:57.20 | KenYoung | MokoMakefile has worked well at least since the neo1973 became available for purchase. |
| 22:57.32 | rwhitby | let's see: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_Started, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO, ... |
| 22:57.53 | rwhitby | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_Environment |
| 22:58.02 | rwhitby | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded |
| 22:58.11 | rwhitby | there's at least a couple more ... |
| 22:58.30 | rwhitby | all saying the same thing, and all out of date because they are not executable |
| 22:59.00 | SUNWjoejaxx | a lot of stuff on the openmoko wiki is out of date |
| 22:59.14 | rwhitby | I think Jay Vaughann wrote a .txt file with the same info too ... |
| 22:59.35 | rwhitby | Weiss: again, sorry that you're the brunt of my rant :-) |
| 23:00.02 | rwhitby | but you did ask if anyone was likely to complain ;-) and I am. |
| 23:00.07 | Weiss | :) it's ok |
| 23:00.47 | rwhitby | heads to work |
| 23:01.23 | Weiss | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded doesn't have *anything*, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Development_Environment doesn't talk about building images, and OE.net ones aren't specific to OM (i know the information is in there, but still), only the FSO one is vaguely useful.. |
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| 23:05.38 | kelvie | anyone know if the 850s with the cap fix have hit the resellers yet? |
| 23:05.49 | kelvie | I've tried emailing koolu, and haven't gotten a reply yet |
| 23:06.45 | SUNWjoejaxx | cap fix? |
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| 23:09.05 | kelvie | SUNWjoejaxx: the one listed here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems |
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| 23:09.14 | kelvie | it's the only thing stopping me from ordering two fr's right now :o |
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| 23:10.34 | SUNWjoejaxx | wow |
| 23:10.35 | kd8ikt | really its not the glamo's NDA'd docs or general shared bus between it and the SD card? or the buggy wlan with its closed firmware? |
| 23:10.37 | SUNWjoejaxx | that stinks |
| 23:11.21 | kd8ikt | whats the glamo video/sdcard bus speed at best? 7M/s? |
| 23:11.27 | kd8ikt | shared |
| 23:11.59 | SpeedEvil | kd8ikt: abou tthat |
| 23:12.58 | kd8ikt | i keep beging the powers that be to leak all docs/knowledge |
| 23:14.17 | kd8ikt | whats the worse that can happen? they sue FIC? they refuse to do buisness with them again? gett a fine? |
| 23:14.19 | SpeedEvil | NDAs typically have punitive elements in them. |
| 23:14.28 | SpeedEvil | The NDA ninjas. |
| 23:15.45 | kd8ikt | but thats cool we'll have richard stallman and the rest of the gnu freedom fighters in our corner |
| 23:16.27 | SpeedEvil | http://xkcd.com/225/ |
| 23:16.50 | phrozen77 | kd8ikt, whats got rms to do with ità |
| 23:17.31 | phrozen77 | lol SpeedEvil |
| 23:18.57 | Dave | Howdy |
| 23:19.28 | ieatlint | ok, here's the plan, one of us gets a job at a suicide hotline and convinces a caller to sign an nda to get the docs, and then post them on usenet before offing themself |
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| 23:19.58 | kelvie | that's just tasteless |
| 23:20.01 | kelvie | I'll do it |
| 23:20.32 | Dave | LINT |
| 23:20.39 | Dave | hahahaha |
| 23:20.41 | kd8ikt | i'll sign it , leak it and not kill myself |
| 23:20.47 | ieatlint | hey dave |
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| 23:20.54 | Dave | oh so this is what you've guys have been conspiring about in my absence? :P |
| 23:20.58 | ieatlint | kd8ikt, oh, it's the nda ninjas who will kill you |
| 23:21.04 | Dave | I hope I haven't missed the nda party :D |
| 23:21.06 | kd8ikt | you do know there are ways to distribute stuff without anyone knowing its source right? |
| 23:21.15 | SpeedEvil | kd8ikt: yes |
| 23:21.33 | SpeedEvil | kd8ikt: you get someone to rewrite 1600 pages of hideously boring docs. |
| 23:21.43 | kd8ikt | i'll do it |
| 23:22.00 | kd8ikt | you can even pay me like 50cents a day |
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| 23:22.27 | ieatlint | i'll pay you in saltine crackers |
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| 23:22.37 | kd8ikt | thats fine too |
| 23:22.37 | ieatlint | but not name brand, those generic store-brand ones |
| 23:22.39 | Dave | eh yo, where's the party at? |
| 23:23.13 | ieatlint | well, i'm about to head out to a linux group |
| 23:23.17 | Dave | huh |
| 23:23.19 | Dave | slugs |
| 23:23.55 | ieatlint | i broke up with my gf yesterday, so i'm about only interested in morbid parties that involve lots of alcohol |
| 23:24.25 | mmontour | kelvie: the one I got from Koolu last week did not have the capacitor (but I was still able to get a GPS fix). |
| 23:24.43 | Dave | cthullu? |
| 23:24.48 | jucs | Mine has one :_P |
| 23:24.48 | kelvie | mmontour: I'm just worried about stuff like.. reading maps off of the SD while running the GPS |
| 23:24.53 | jucs | Got it Saturday^^ |
| 23:24.54 | hipitihop | morning moko'ers |
| 23:25.06 | kelvie | same with my brother (who plans on ordering one with me) |
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| 23:25.38 | mmontour | I haven't done any serious testing, just pointed it out the window and waited for it to get a fix. |
| 23:26.00 | kelvie | mmontour: I've read a few posts on the ML that show that accessing the SD card while running the GPS really screws it up |
| 23:26.10 | mmontour | It has also been pointed out that the capacitor "fix" only affects the clock line, while the data lines are also possible sources of interference |
| 23:26.16 | jucs | Actually, you should store all the things that belong to the GPS on the NAND, if you don't have that capacitor yet... |
| 23:27.28 | jucs | Uhm.... I didn't have any problems with the capacitor, even though I store my maps on the SD card... |
| 23:27.28 | mmontour | Anyway, I heard a while ago (FWIW) that Koolu's next batch of 850s would have the capacitor fix. Dunno how many of the old ones they still have in stock. |
| 23:27.33 | SpeedEvil | jucs: won't fit many maps on 60M of flash |
| 23:27.50 | jucs | 60MB? 256? |
| 23:28.02 | SpeedEvil | jucs: whatever's free |
| 23:28.57 | jucs | Well - the Map of my city is about 50MB.... even though it would be annoying, but you could copy the maps you needed from the card - after driving ~100KM... |
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| 23:31.06 | Dave | jucs :D |
| 23:31.18 | Dave | Oh, Mmontour, my sound issue has been resolved! (for now) |
| 23:31.22 | Dave | or alphaone :) |
| 23:31.23 | mmontour | kelvie: the other thing to keep in mind is that there was more than one software fix. Some of the posts on the ML may have only had some of the fixes. |
| 23:31.39 | mmontour | Dave: glad to hear it. |
| 23:31.44 | Dave | oh shit |
| 23:31.50 | mmontour | New issue? |
| 23:31.58 | kelvie | mmontour: yeah I saw |
| 23:32.08 | kelvie | jucs: hehe the openstreetmaps isn't even complete in my city |
| 23:32.20 | SpeedEvil | kelvie: there is a way to fix that. |
| 23:32.22 | jucs | Then make it complete :-P :-P :_P |
| 23:32.23 | Dave | oh, no, it works again! |
| 23:32.28 | kelvie | I want to help finish it as I get next week off.. so I'd like to help out there |
| 23:32.31 | SpeedEvil | Dave: what was it? |
| 23:32.31 | kelvie | yeah that's the idea :) |
| 23:32.32 | Dave | just it was affected by the pulseaudio gets fucked when resuming |
| 23:32.34 | jucs | I actually already added several streets... |
| 23:32.43 | Dave | Speedevil, who knows, we got into the registers this afternoon :( |
| 23:32.46 | Dave | it was crazy |
| 23:32.51 | kelvie | koolu did say that there next shipment will have the fix |
| 23:32.54 | Dave | torindel helped out a bunch :) |
| 23:32.58 | kelvie | but I wrote up a follow-up reply.. have yet to hear from them |
| 23:33.00 | Dave | Speedevil, I blame glamo for everything :) |
| 23:33.05 | Dave | (as per usual) |
| 23:33.42 | jucs | The nice thing about openstreetmap is that everyone can make it better :-D |
| 23:40.57 | kd8ikt | what format should i download my areas map in? |
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| 23:42.14 | Dave | jucs, or worse, apparently. |
| 23:42.28 | Dave | Misspelling street names; putting in roads that don't exist, and putting them in the wrong places. |
| 23:42.31 | Dave | IT's wonderful@ |
| 23:42.37 | Dave | -_-; |
| 23:43.26 | jucs | Yes, Dave, but the quality is better than expected... |
| 23:43.37 | Dave | Than you expected, maybe :P |
| 23:43.44 | Dave | nah, yeah it's pretty good |
| 23:43.59 | jucs | At least I'm usually able to locate myself on earth and not on OSM-Planet :-P |
| 23:44.05 | Dave | but I still think there are some people who intentionally fuck it up |
| 23:44.12 | Dave | like they name a street after themselves or some shit |
| 23:44.24 | Dave | hah |
| 23:44.45 | jucs | I think it's ..... very open, compared to other OSS projects... |
| 23:44.46 | Dave | I don't know jucs... sometimes I think om users aren't on this planet :D |
| 23:44.52 | UndrWater | it's like a wiki map! |
| 23:44.52 | jucs | :-D |
| 23:44.55 | Dave | haha :P |
| 23:45.17 | Dave | like clearly speedevil lives on his own little world :P |
| 23:45.18 | jucs | I mean, I really was suprised to be able to change every street :-P |
| 23:45.22 | Dave | yeah :D |
| 23:45.24 | UndrWater | do any of our gps apps do routing? |
| 23:45.33 | Dave | navit, but it's in its early stages. |
| 23:45.35 | jucs | After doing a 3-minutes-registration... |
| 23:45.38 | Dave | reportedly, anyway |
| 23:45.41 | Dave | hehe |
| 23:45.54 | Dave | *turn left here* |
| 23:45.57 | Dave | *drives off a cliff* |
| 23:46.00 | Dave | Aaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 23:46.02 | jucs | *loool* |
| 23:46.13 | Dave | Daaaaaaamn youuuuuuuu preeeeeeaaaaaaalphaaaaa soffftwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare *CRASH* |
| 23:46.20 | mjr | There's also Rana, the sequel to pyroute, supposedly runs better, don't know in practice |
| 23:46.22 | Dave | :D |
| 23:46.26 | jucs | Anyway, tommorrow I'll travel to berlin and.... first try of OSM in "real life" :-P |
| 23:46.33 | Dave | Cool :) |
| 23:46.40 | jucs | I mean, before knowing where I'm actually... |
| 23:47.28 | Dave | XD |
| 23:47.29 | jucs | Maybe the freerunner won't work.... it's like... if you don't have a pc and internet your chance to get it is 50-50... |
| 23:47.34 | Dave | Don't get lost, jucs :P |
| 23:48.07 | jucs | :-) If I won't come back till thursday... you'll know I'm somewhere in berlin... crying :-D |
| 23:48.16 | Dave | Awww :) |
| 23:48.23 | Dave | Don't worry |
| 23:48.33 | Dave | I'll get the proper german authorities to locate and come rescue you :D |
| 23:48.40 | Dave | I'll send some germans from here |
| 23:49.04 | jucs | :-D Thanks a lot... in which part of the world are you living? |
| 23:49.26 | Dave | US :| |
| 23:49.33 | jucs | ;-) |
| 23:49.36 | Dave | :P |
| 23:49.49 | jucs | Well... I'll go and get myself some sleep :-P |
| 23:49.54 | Dave | Okay :D |
| 23:49.58 | jucs | See you! |
| 23:50.00 | Dave | Goodnight! |
| 23:50.03 | jucs | :-) |
| 23:50.59 | hipitihop | so what with the org.openmoko.asu.stable spam from CIA earlier, is this something to get excited about ? |
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| 23:52.57 | rwhitby | hipitihop: it means zecke considers the asu.testing branch to be stable enough to promote to being possibly the next stable version (or a step along the way to the next stable version) |
| 23:53.23 | rwhitby | BTW, CIA messages are always much more informative than most other messages on this channel ;-) |
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| 23:54.14 | *** part/#openmoko gargoyle_grin (n=randerso@adsl-69-154-110-202.dsl.spfdmo.swbell.net) |
| 23:54.34 | Dave | Xora, let me know if you return tonight. |
| 23:54.46 | hipitihop | rwhitby, seems so, your input not withstanding :-) |
| 23:54.48 | ieatlint | okay, i'm on a bus on irc on my freerunner |
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| 23:55.27 | rwhitby | hipitihop: I include most of my input in my statement |
| 23:56.47 | ieatlint | it's not too bad either |
| 23:57.21 | hipitihop | wonders what is indeed the correct way to shutdown FSO from the CLI. Tried 'shutdown -P now' and screen has blanked but fr is not off |
| 23:57.26 | Dave | ieatlint, rofl |
| 23:57.42 | donomo | hipitihop: ive wondered that too. 'halt' seems to work |
| 23:57.43 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03dp 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * r4735db9cfd15 10/packages/hal/hal_0.5.9.bb: hal: create volatiles *after* creating the haldaemon user |
| 23:57.43 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03dp 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * r1ac52e53492c 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [python-setuptools] import a fix from OE which means we now have |
| 23:57.44 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * ra35dc9af9a89 10/packages/openmoko-projects/illume-config_svn.bb: [illume-config] Fix a bug in illume-config when do alternative |
| 23:57.44 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * r2d1aac02b6bb 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [linux-openmoko] Remove the evbug removal as it was removed upstream too |
| 23:57.47 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * r57143c44cd2a 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade the linux kernel to the latest stable version |
| 23:57.50 | Dave | ieatlint, try using it for several hours. |
| 23:57.50 | CIA-47 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.asu.testing * rb86bdb48442a 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Upgrade to the latest stable kernel (hardware ecc preparations) |
| 23:57.51 | mmaestri | hipitihop: halt worked for me every time |
| 23:57.59 | Dave | I swear it gives you wrist injuries! |
| 23:58.10 | Dave | at least using the stylus on that tiny-ass keyboard :P |
| 23:58.27 | ieatlint | haha, maybe |
| 23:58.30 | Dave | haha, everyone in the future is going to have thumb and repetative strain injuries |
| 23:58.46 | Dave | ieatlint, I irssi'd from one of my the other day for a couple hours |
| 23:58.54 | Dave | after about 2-3 hours my wrist was killing me :D |
| 23:59.04 | Dave | I wanted to throw it against a wall. |
| 23:59.22 | Dave | Though, yeah, it was perfectly functional, and very readable, yadda yadda :) |
| 23:59.31 | ieatlint | if the regular keyboard had a return key... |
| 23:59.51 | ieatlint | or a motion.. |
| 23:59.54 | Dave | haha |
