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00:33.09ChooseOpenHello guys.  I lost my USB cable.  Anybody know what kind I need to replace it with?  I found both USB A/Mini-B 4-pin Cables and USB A/Mini-B 5-pin Cables
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00:42.56jOERG_rwChooseOpen: 5-pin
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00:50.32mmu_manugh there are different types of mini-b connectors ??
00:50.34mmu_manbleh
00:52.48hfsplusyeah
00:52.56hfsplusbut you can get all-in-one kits and crap
00:53.10hfsplusfrom radioshack/thesource by circuit city (us/canada)
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01:01.00ChooseOpenexcellent.  Thanks for the info!
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07:48.05Hopscotchgood monring
07:52.12mbufHopscotch, morning
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08:40.55rhyhannHi
08:41.25rhyhannIs it planned to make a CDMA freerunner ?
08:41.53buzi dont think so
08:42.31rhyhannOK
08:44.49buzbesides, since you cant simply hookup CDMA devices to the network, it would be kinda hard to sell
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08:45.49rhyhannI don't really want to change my operator because of a mobile
08:45.49rhyhannAnd, in my country, the only operator which doesn't steal our money uses CDMA
08:46.07rhyhannOK, buz
08:46.33buzwell you operator would have to activate the CDMA phone for you
08:46.37buzwhich is highly unlikely
08:46.53rhyhann:)
08:47.16rhyhannSo I think that my next cellphone will be an Android, sorry :(
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08:49.00rhyhannThe FreeRunner was very interesting because of its Ruby SDK
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10:39.07DrakouHi everybody
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10:39.52DrakouI am looking for the guy who is in charge of the Atheros AR6000 driver at openmoko
10:40.23DrakouI am using the same chipset and i would like to ask him some questions about his experience of this chip
10:40.33DrakouAccording to the svn, his nickname is sameo
10:44.55stefan_schmidtDrakou: Samuel Ortiz O-hand employee. Best to ask on the openmoko-kernel ml and cc him
10:50.46DrakouThank you stefan_schmidt , I will contact him.
10:51.17stefan_schmidtDrakou: As I said. Best is over the ml as you will perhaps get more help from other people there.
10:52.49Drakouok i will suscribe the ml
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11:33.18CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rb0cb8e374492 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (power.c power.vala): Remove timers when polling is to be stopped
11:33.18CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * re9b5ee181dfd 10/odeviced/src/daemon/helpers.vala: Reverted read_integer to use FileStream
11:33.19CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rb64071134bc4 10/odeviced/src/daemon/helpers.vala: read_string returns null on failure
11:33.20CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r6e2dcbe03b84 10/odeviced/src/plugins/backlight/ (backlight.c backlight.vala): simple change in the ordering of the if-else clause in SetBacklightPower
11:33.23CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r325801281c81 10/odeviced/src/plugins/power/ (power.c power.vala): Enable polling if and only if certain sysfs leaves are present, fixes redundant callbacks
11:33.26CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * raa86e2559131 10/odeviced/docs/PLUGINS.txt: Sync docs with the current tree
11:33.29CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * rd001bc7b7c38 10/odeviced/src/daemon/helpers.vala: add compute_name helper
11:33.32CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03sudharsh * r9b5bc01afdaf 10/odeviced/src/plugins/ (6 files in 2 dirs): added GetName
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12:54.27strahlerhi there. I need a very, very small Snapshot of Openmoko. Actual size of an snapshot is about 53MB. Is there a way to get it much more down?
12:56.02strahleri need no applications or something else, just the basic functionality
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12:57.45mbufstrahler, build the console-image?
12:59.38strahlerto do this, I have to change the MokoMakeFile and build it?
13:00.51mmu_manlol
13:01.01mmu_manHaiku's sources are like 700MB :p
13:01.26mbufstrahler, no; IIRC; there should be a target for console-image
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13:05.16strahlermbuf, thanks!
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14:34.39CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03daniel * r82c318b85925 10/ophoned/objects.py: python-ophoned: Fix SimUnlock method invocation
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14:53.21tomboy64i want my fr
14:53.24tomboy64and i want it now :(
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15:11.12CIA-45openmoko: 03tick * r4491 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/args.c:
15:11.12CIA-45openmoko: opkg: let args_init return 0 is successful
15:11.12CIA-45openmoko:  returns errno if some error happens
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15:19.12CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03daniel * r62ca8f893261 10/ (data/themes/zhone.edc src/zhone):
15:19.12CIA-45freesmartphone.org: zhone: Add support for PUKs and fix some of the PIN logic, including:
15:19.12CIA-45freesmartphone.org:  * Fix transition to PIN/PUK if they are required after startup
15:19.12CIA-45freesmartphone.org:  * Check whether PIN or PUK is really needed (as opposed to havine no SIM Card)
15:19.12CIA-45freesmartphone.org:  * Transition from PIN to PUK dialog if needed
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15:28.45xzcvczxhas anyone got a gps logfile?
15:29.09SpeedEvilYes.
15:29.12SpeedEvilYes, I have.
15:29.29SpeedEvilAny GPS, or neo1973, or freerunner, or GTA04?
15:29.52SpeedEvilAnd what sort of logfile?
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15:30.10xzcvczxGTA04 sounds nice :P
15:30.24xzcvczx1973.... raw would be nice
15:30.30balrog-kunopenstreetmap.org/traces has some
15:30.39balrog-kunoh, but not raw
15:31.31xzcvczxwell as in the nmea data
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15:31.44xzcvczxi just need stuff to pipe into gpsfake
15:32.00xzcvczxas my phone is currently too flat to turn on so i cant access the logfiles on the memory card
15:32.26SpeedEvilDCC work dor you?
15:32.46xzcvczxyou can try but i would doubt it
15:33.01xzcvczxyou know how to use scp?
15:33.03balrog-kunqemu can generate nmea resembling the gta01 output live :)
15:33.14xzcvczxdont have qemu installed :S
15:34.18balrog-kunor i can upload some real gta01 output, but SpeedEvil will be quicker :)
15:34.25SpeedEvilGuess not.
15:34.25SpeedEvil(dcc)
15:34.34balrog-kunbecause he's *speed* evil
15:34.36SpeedEvilhttp://www.mauve.plus.com/1208425732gps.g
15:34.38SpeedEvilz
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15:34.47SpeedEvil1208688950gps.gz
15:34.57SpeedEvilDon't slashdot them :)
15:36.01xzcvczxthanks SpeedEvil just digg'd and /.'d them for you :)
15:36.43zedstar_with headline "speedevil naked"
15:37.23xzcvczxSpeedEvil: errr i am getting unexpected EOF
15:37.59xzcvczxon both of them strangely enough
15:38.04SpeedEvilOdd.
15:38.07SpeedEvilYou mean on the gz?
15:38.11xzcvczxyeah
15:38.14SpeedEvilMeh.
15:38.25SpeedEvilzcat file >output
15:38.32SpeedEvilI think that's as the neo shutdown uncleanly both times
15:39.13mjrthat'll do it for you
15:39.29xzcvczxno luck with zcat either :S
15:39.47SpeedEvilHuh?
15:39.56SpeedEvilIt should error - but it should output somthing if you just do it with pipes
15:39.57mjryou're doing it wrong
15:40.19xzcvczxerrr nvm
15:40.20SpeedEvilAs it doesn't know that the file has ended abnormally when it starts outputting the start
15:40.22xzcvczxis an idiot
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15:48.47SpeedEvilxzcvczx: I don't know if those are valid (fix) traces
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16:04.19xzcvczxSpeedEvil: one of them eventually is
16:05.33xzcvczxwell the second one probably is as well i haven't bothered looking yet
16:14.13xzcvczxanyone willing to give some help getting neo going with os x over bluetooth(preferred) or over usb
16:16.06zedstar_i connected my neo to my powerbook some time ago....it required a driver for usb networking if i remember correctly
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18:05.59CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r8cf5842ad9a9 10/ (27 files in 6 dirs): continue reorg
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18:43.25methril|laptophi!
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19:48.41CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r14e29c3e8314 10/ (22 files in 7 dirs): Integrate some of old-oeventd
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20:36.09andra1hello everyone
20:37.31methril|laptophello
20:37.48CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r3f6a04519244 10/framework/controller.py: log registered objects at end of startup
20:38.46andras_are there any hardware people around? I guess the Dutch and the Russian are offline, but how about the rest...
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20:39.07CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r31d02a1b98ef 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Integrate some of old-opreferencesd
20:40.44methril|laptopbye
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20:55.53CVirusthe test team has been doing a really good job so far
20:56.09CViruswhere did you hire those people from :-p
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20:57.51CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * r742f2fa33ab5 10/framework/subsystems/ophoned/ (modems/abstract/modem.py objects.py): ophoned can be imported now, need to adjust busnames, object paths, and interfaces
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21:14.38CIA-45freesmartphone.org: 03daniel * r6fc0a8f65cb4 10/framework/subsystems/ophoned/objects.py: python-ophoned: Fix SimUnlock method invocation
21:15.04alphaoneWow, that didn't take long at all!
21:15.27alphaoneah, never mind
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21:50.33andras_hi, any hardware gurus around here?
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21:57.27SpeedEvilFor low values of gu.
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