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| 03:30.15 | fale | hello |
| 03:31.05 | fale | is already known the producer of the Freerunnr's wifi module? |
| 03:33.00 | bmidgley | fale: atheros iirc |
| 03:33.19 | fale | bmidgley: :) thank you |
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| 06:13.42 | Psi | anyone tried dosbox on the gta01? |
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| 06:29.02 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 06:48.15 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03heikki.paajanen * re3ba01b67d63 10/src/serial.c: Serial handling fixes |
| 06:48.15 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03heikki.paajanen * r86d0627abcd3 10/ (18 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:48.15 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: PDU handling fixes |
| 06:48.15 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Better support for Neo1973 |
| 06:48.15 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Added vendor configuration |
| 06:48.16 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Fixed IMSI query to use standard command instead of Telit specific |
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| 07:58.26 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke * r01850811d706 10/src/libraries/qtopia/qtopiaapplication.cpp: [lifecycle] If the last window is closed and we don't have a running task quit |
| 07:58.27 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke * r5da5add88176 10/devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp: [ficgta01] Remove unused variable, make the compiler happy |
| 07:58.27 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke * r1c8d2dd4a06c 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [telephony] Stop guessing when a call is missed, rely soley on %CPI |
| 07:58.29 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke * r81e1bcb0d16d 10/devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp: [telephony] We don't parse %CREG, no need to enable that on resume |
| 07:58.32 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke * r097dc77994fd 10/devices/ficgta01/src/plugins/phonevendors/ficgta01/vendor_ficgta01.cpp: [telephony] Disable unsolicited result code for network registration |
| 07:59.22 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r55b50918521a 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [linux] Use defconfig-2.6.24 and make the kernel the same for gta01 and gta02 again |
| 07:59.22 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * rd425cc802d77 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [qtopia] More recent version to get the life-cycle of Qtopia fixed |
| 07:59.23 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * rc9a689f47457 10/packages/openmoko-projects/etk-theme-ninja_svn.bb: NO AUTOREV! |
| 07:59.24 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r4e2be8f06cc4 10/packages/openmoko-projects/etk-theme-ninja_svn.bb: Use SRCPV instead of SRCREV |
| 07:59.27 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * re9d178a8cdc4 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [qtopia] Increase the Qtopia version |
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| 08:36.02 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1417 has been created by tony(AT)openmoko.com |
| 08:36.03 | cdbot2 | * * ASU update suspend/resume fail |
| 08:36.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1417 |
| 08:38.17 | bedboi | any news about ASU? |
| 08:38.30 | bedboi | for gta01 |
| 09:02.19 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * rbac0d9bf3438 10/conf/distro/include/ (moko-autorev.inc sane-srcrevs.inc): [srcrev] Add revs for the etk ninja theme |
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| 10:05.58 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03julian_chu 07org.openmoko.april-update * r7836f6f441d3 10/packages/openmoko-projects/ (diversity-nav/switch-gps.patch diversity-nav_svn.bb): [diversity] Add patch to diversity-nav |
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| 10:18.57 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4449 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: opkg: improve error reporting |
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| 10:27.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1418 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:27.02 | cdbot2 | * * Battery and time icons disappeared by drag to end of Right side on Applet. |
| 10:27.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1418 |
| 10:28.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1419 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:28.02 | cdbot2 | * * Saved tag as same place will be overlap. |
| 10:28.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1419 |
| 10:28.10 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1420 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:28.12 | cdbot2 | * * Battery icon does not change immediately when plug USB or Charger. |
| 10:28.14 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1420 |
| 10:29.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1421 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:29.02 | cdbot2 | * * when Plug the USB cable or Charger icon does not changed if Battery is full icon |
| 10:29.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1421 |
| 10:30.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1423 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:30.02 | cdbot2 | * * it Makes serious noise when incoming a call or arriving new message during Blank |
| 10:30.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1423 |
| 10:30.34 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r16f19979eda1 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: [srcrev] Build a more recent version of illume |
| 10:30.34 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03zecke 07org.openmoko.april-update * r257319dfe108 10/conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc: [srcdate] Bump the EFL SRCDATE to the 28th of May |
| 10:31.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1424 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:31.02 | cdbot2 | * * There is no function to serching the number from contacts on sending screen in |
| 10:31.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1424 |
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| 10:33.02 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1426 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:33.03 | cdbot2 | * * Edit screen is disappear if touch save without type anything |
| 10:33.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1426 |
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| 10:34.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1427 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:34.02 | cdbot2 | * * Scroll bar does not appear in list screen if the Tags more then 6. |
| 10:34.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1427 |
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| 10:37.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1429 has been created by regina_kim(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:37.02 | cdbot2 | * * Device has crashed and function is freezing rarely. |
| 10:37.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1429 |
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| 10:41.53 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4450 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: opkg: fix typos |
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| 10:42.40 | jserv-- | greeting! |
| 10:43.06 | Psi | tries the 3rd build tonight in an attempt to find one that the cfcard works in |
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| 11:32.01 | d3vice | g'afternoon |
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| 12:49.49 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03andrew * r4453 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:49.49 | CIA-43 | openmoko: Rebase gta02fake support on top of |
| 12:49.49 | CIA-43 | openmoko: git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git#andy, update README, etc. |
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| 13:20.43 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03andrew * r4454 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/neo1973.c: |
| 13:20.43 | CIA-43 | openmoko: Use the NAND chip from GTA02 in GTA02fake (128MiB, 1.8V). |
| 13:20.43 | CIA-43 | openmoko: (Gets detected by u-boot and linux but flash.sh isn't supported yet). |
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| 13:24.21 | Vegar | is that GTA02 emulation for qemu that's going in? |
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| 13:27.35 | balrog-kun | Vegar: nope, there's no GTA02 emulation and there won't be from OpenMoko side |
| 13:27.48 | balrog-kun | this is the GTA02f emulation what was there already |
| 13:27.55 | Vegar | oh, ok |
| 13:27.56 | balrog-kun | s/what/that/ |
| 13:28.08 | Vegar | why is it named fake? |
| 13:28.17 | balrog-kun | because it's not a GTA02 |
| 13:28.35 | balrog-kun | but it's indistinguishable from a userspace developer point of view |
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| 13:33.11 | Vegar | ok |
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| 14:51.00 | devcow | hi there |
| 14:51.08 | devcow | any german here? |
| 14:52.03 | devcow | i want to buy the freeRunner in germany when can i do this. they say all april but now it is end may |
| 14:52.13 | summatusmentis | ich spreche keine deutsch |
| 14:52.20 | summatusmentis | unless that's not what you're asking |
| 14:52.42 | devcow | ??? |
| 14:52.50 | CVirus | sprache* |
| 14:52.57 | summatusmentis | yeah, nvm, poor joke :) |
| 14:53.04 | devcow | :-) ahh i c |
| 14:53.34 | summatusmentis | thanks CVirus :) I took one semester of german |
| 14:53.40 | devcow | i am waiting so long i hope to get this phone pretty soon |
| 14:53.55 | summatusmentis | it's in mass production |
| 14:54.49 | devcow | thats good but our reseller dont has it at the moment and he said delivery in early may |
| 14:55.02 | devcow | but no it is late may |
| 14:55.36 | summatusmentis | right, none of the sellers have it |
| 14:57.08 | devcow | i saw all movies now about the freeRunner i want this nice phone :-) :-) :-) |
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| 15:02.27 | devcow | what are the hardware requirments for the x86 image for developing on a normal pc |
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| 15:03.19 | devcow | i created a virtual machine cpu 3 gigahertz an 1 Gig Ram an it was very slow booting and the control on the software was very slow. |
| 15:04.02 | SpeedEvil | x86 image, or qemu?. |
| 15:04.23 | devcow | moment i will checl |
| 15:04.24 | devcow | k |
| 15:04.30 | SpeedEvil | qemu is damn slow |
| 15:04.40 | Basher | it sure is |
| 15:05.25 | Basher | It was basically unusable on my 2 GHz, 1 Gig Ram machine |
| 15:09.40 | devcow | i installed it on a ubuntu machine like in this tut http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Automatic_emulation_in_Ubuntu |
| 15:10.30 | devcow | and it was very slow |
| 15:10.45 | devcow | it is qemu i c |
| 15:11.16 | devcow | okay how it is faster? i want to develop a tool |
| 15:11.26 | SpeedEvil | raw x86 is _much_ faster |
| 15:11.32 | devcow | okay |
| 15:11.53 | devcow | any tut available? |
| 15:12.07 | SpeedEvil | I forget what the name is. |
| 15:12.14 | SpeedEvil | Maybe search emulation on the wiki |
| 15:12.16 | SpeedEvil | zardos? |
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| 15:52.44 | zedstar | any of u lucky so and so's with a freerunner tried ASU and used the gps, does it use gypsy or is that not ready yet in ASU? |
| 15:54.15 | XorA|gone | zedstar: all the info is in git, go look yourself |
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| 15:56.08 | zedstar | xora: that wont tell me much other than code exists or doesnt exist? |
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| 15:57.04 | XorA|gone | zedstar: well it will tell you if gypsy is on freerunner image |
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| 15:57.18 | Slemmen | hello |
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| 15:59.25 | zedstar | xora: i was curious to see if anyone actually used it? |
| 15:59.50 | XorA|gone | zedstar: ahah, then you asked the wrong question :-) |
| 16:00.01 | XorA|gone | has used ASU a lot |
| 16:00.17 | XorA|gone | but I havent bothered to put the phone near window |
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| 16:00.41 | XorA|gone | diversity-nav is kinda naff at the moment anyway, needs a UI overhaul |
| 16:00.46 | PBeck | ahoi :) |
| 16:01.12 | zedstar | xora: well i was kinda building up to that :) |
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| 16:03.23 | zedstar | xora: im interested really if anyone has tried it within the geoclue framework from dbus etc and got some success |
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| 16:05.10 | XorA|gone | zedstar: freerunner still needs a cool location backend service, I think mickeyls work will eventually get round to it |
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| 16:07.31 | zedstar | xora: yeh....geoclue would do me especially if the gps actually does return coordinates (assuming a fix) to it |
| 16:07.53 | XorA|gone | the gps spits out NMEA |
| 16:08.40 | zedstar | xora yeh but gypsy handles this and provides ways to register callbacks for coordinates etc from what i remember reading...dont need to worry about NMEA |
| 16:09.01 | zedstar | xora or more specially request to geoclue which handles it at a higher level |
| 16:09.35 | SpeedEvil | Can gyspy also give you NMEA? |
| 16:09.38 | zedstar | xora i just was curious as to what state this was all at....i could go look at the code i guess |
| 16:09.40 | XorA|gone | zedstar: well we arent working on that in OM at the moment |
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| 16:11.46 | zedstar | speedevil: i dont think so as it just provides a higher level abstraction to that...well the dbus interface anyway |
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| 16:14.00 | tedo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.13 | zedstar | yeh it does |
| 16:14.24 | SpeedEvil | zedstar: just wondering, as I don't want to lose any info. |
| 16:14.40 | zedstar | i especially like the idea of it as part of geoclue so i can just say "give me some coordinates" and geoclue chooses suitable provider |
| 16:15.32 | XorA|gone | goes for dinner |
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| 16:17.04 | zedstar | speedevil: yeh need to look at code to see how it talks to the receiver i guess....im just interested in a basic interface |
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| 16:18.19 | tedo | It looks like gipsy provides every info from the NMEA data. |
| 16:18.58 | SpeedEvil | TeNoVi: I want it in NMEA format though, including all the satellite infor and .... |
| 16:19.07 | SpeedEvil | For potential postprocessing. |
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| 16:21.49 | Slemmen | how's the gps on the phone? is it so good i can use it as a gps in my car? typing in adresses, saving locations and so on? |
| 16:22.08 | SpeedEvil | No |
| 16:22.19 | SpeedEvil | there is no real routing software yet |
| 16:22.28 | nibbler_de | car should be rather ok as you can have a gps antenna in a convenient location |
| 16:22.28 | SpeedEvil | and there won't be - other than google-maps and clones |
| 16:22.46 | SpeedEvil | Unless someone releases a (closed source) program to do it. |
| 16:22.50 | nibbler_de | as concerns the software to process the actual location info... have fun. write it! ;) |
| 16:23.22 | SpeedEvil | There is stuff like tangogps for example, which can show maps from openstreetmap. |
| 16:23.35 | SpeedEvil | For a number of reasons, that data has problems for routing. |
| 16:24.16 | tedo | i try to implement this anyway... |
| 16:24.17 | mjr | it has problems; can be of use, but it'll get some things consistently wrong... |
| 16:24.40 | mjr | I for one would like a route-finder anyway |
| 16:24.58 | SpeedEvil | For example, there is no way to enter turn restrictions into the OSM data |
| 16:25.06 | tedo | there is |
| 16:25.13 | tedo | in the relations |
| 16:25.22 | SpeedEvil | tedo: sure you can enter it as you like |
| 16:25.28 | SpeedEvil | tedo: there is no standard for it though |
| 16:25.34 | SpeedEvil | tedo: and none of the tools support it. |
| 16:25.48 | SpeedEvil | tedo: so it's a meaningless point ATM. |
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| 16:26.15 | Slemmen | Tedo: i'll support you moraly |
| 16:26.24 | Slemmen | :P |
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| 16:26.29 | tedo | Slemmen: :) |
| 16:26.47 | SpeedEvil | tedo: supply patches for JOSM and potalatch, that are not clearly insane, and a standard on the wiki, and you probably have it done. |
| 16:27.00 | mjr | yeah at least last I checked there were some proposals for turn restriction relations, but they really need to be specced out properly |
| 16:27.05 | mjr | and tools support them |
| 16:27.48 | abraxa_ | Slemmen: The GPS is great, just the software is lacking as of now. |
| 16:28.44 | tedo | SpeedEvil: i think turn restrictions are not essential in the beginning. They can easily added later on in the routing sw |
| 16:29.10 | mjr | Note also that I don't own a car. So using the OSM data for routing isn't as dangerous for me ;) |
| 16:30.01 | zedstar | speedevil: looking at the gypsy code there is nmea-parser.c so shouldnt be hard to get what u want |
| 16:30.03 | mjr | sure you can do routing software without (initially) support for that, but point rather is that it needs to get in on all levels and is not there on pretty much any |
| 16:30.53 | Slemmen | How about one of the opensource GPS software? there's plenty on sourceforge.net , must be able to use some of it? to make the job easier :D |
| 16:31.07 | SpeedEvil | The software is the really easy bit. |
| 16:31.12 | SpeedEvil | The map data is the hard part. |
| 16:31.36 | mjr | yeah |
| 16:31.45 | tedo | SpeedEvil: that's true |
| 16:31.55 | mjr | and yes there's software already (navit and pyroute at least, though both had their problems in the neo when last tried) |
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| 16:33.05 | Slemmen | so, what map data is currrently used? |
| 16:33.14 | SpeedEvil | None. |
| 16:33.20 | SpeedEvil | There isn't a map application as default. |
| 16:33.26 | SpeedEvil | tangogps can use OSM data |
| 16:33.34 | SpeedEvil | But it's solely a moving map |
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| 16:33.47 | mjr | well, it is a tracer as well ;P |
| 16:33.53 | SpeedEvil | Well - true. |
| 16:34.01 | SpeedEvil | http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/News |
| 16:34.02 | mjr | but yeah, no attempt at routing |
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| 16:35.26 | mjr | you can import osm data to navit and use it for routing, but the (0.4) version I tried wasn't very usable on the neo and very slow too (presumably because it was compiled for some other arm variant and many instructions were emulated :] ) |
| 16:35.44 | mjr | pyroute is there also but it's also very slow, probably being python... |
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| 16:41.48 | ccfly | hello :) |
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| 16:57.57 | raboof | would love to have navigation based on OSM - they have nice coverage in .nl |
| 16:58.32 | devcow | devcow wants a neo or a freefrunner but no one gives him one |
| 16:59.04 | raboof | are the OSM maps small enough to fit on a freerunner though? |
| 16:59.25 | Qwell | I'm sure for a given area |
| 17:00.02 | raboof | say, 'the benelux and a bit of germany'? |
| 17:00.26 | Qwell | don't know what the benelux is.. |
| 17:00.35 | raboof | belgium, netherlands and luxembourgh |
| 17:00.50 | Qwell | no idea :p |
| 17:02.01 | flaushy | Qwell: thing so :) |
| 17:02.19 | flaushy | my a780 has a 512 mb transflash |
| 17:02.24 | flaushy | for a gps software |
| 17:02.26 | flaushy | for whole of germany |
| 17:02.44 | flaushy | therefore i guess, the maps should fit :) |
| 17:03.06 | flaushy | especially since coverage is still poor in some areas |
| 17:03.16 | mjr | yeah there's no real problem fitting a useful amount of the data that is there |
| 17:03.32 | flaushy | uh 256 mb only |
| 17:03.38 | Qwell | obviously, you aren't going to fit the entire world though |
| 17:03.46 | flaushy | never |
| 17:03.46 | Qwell | (maybe?) |
| 17:03.49 | flaushy | :) |
| 17:03.53 | Qwell | bz2 :D |
| 17:03.54 | flaushy | would need a couple of gigs |
| 17:04.07 | flaushy | but since it is vector data it should be very small |
| 17:04.15 | devcow | is the battery problem solved in the FreeRunner release has someone any knowledge about that? |
| 17:04.25 | raboof | some mapping company in .nl decided to shift business focus and donated their mapping material to OSM |
| 17:04.28 | flaushy | wants a freerunner :/ |
| 17:04.33 | flaushy | raboof: cool |
| 17:04.36 | raboof | a bit outdated, but a great start to get the ball rolling |
| 17:04.39 | XorA|gone | devcow: power lasts longer n freerunner |
| 17:04.41 | flaushy | yeah |
| 17:04.53 | flaushy | i was quite impressed by the data at our university |
| 17:05.16 | flaushy | but .nl donates a lot of money to NGOs anyhow |
| 17:05.16 | devcow | <XorA|gone> how long in normal use? |
| 17:05.25 | XorA|gone | devcow: no idea, I dont use it normally |
| 17:05.28 | flaushy | so i guess they would have helped as well :) |
| 17:05.40 | XorA|gone | devcow: just a lot longer than gta01 is all I know |
| 17:05.40 | raboof | NGO's? |
| 17:06.02 | devcow | <XorA|gone> are there not developers here who have a prototype? |
| 17:06.11 | SpeedEvil | Non-governmental organisations. |
| 17:06.25 | flaushy | non profit orgs |
| 17:06.26 | XorA|gone | devcow: yes, developers dont use the phone normally |
| 17:07.50 | devcow | <XorA|gone> ok i am not much more shifter |
| 17:08.44 | devcow | <XorA|gone> i mean i am none the wiser |
| 17:08.48 | XorA|gone | devcow: for example, Im yet to get a freerunner where gsm works, so I cant even make phone calls |
| 17:09.03 | XorA|gone | devcow: but I do know battery life on gta02 is better\ |
| 17:10.21 | devcow | that sounds good ;-) okay the result is if you get a freeRunner it is still not useable for everydays work is that right? |
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| 17:10.51 | flaushy | doubt it |
| 17:11.03 | XorA|gone | devcow: I only have test hardware, some developers are using gta02 as phone |
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| 17:12.34 | XorA|gone | anyway I must go |
| 17:12.52 | devcow | cya |
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| 17:24.07 | bedboi | any news about ASU on gta01? |
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| 17:38.31 | wirrwarr | heya~ |
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| 17:46.52 | XorA|gone | bedboi: doesnt it work? |
| 17:47.16 | bedboi | XorA|gone: is there any release for GTA01? |
| 17:47.54 | XorA|gone | bedboi: I made buildhost start generating images last week |
| 17:48.07 | bedboi | ah, i didn't know |
| 17:48.19 | bedboi | any pointers? |
| 17:48.50 | XorA|gone | qtopia-openmok-x11-image |
| 17:52.15 | bedboi | on buildhost.openmoko.orG? |
| 17:53.26 | XorA|gone | yes |
| 17:54.24 | bedboi | damn i can't find it :L) |
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| 17:55.15 | mmontour | bedboi: try http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080524-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 17:55.24 | bedboi | thanks |
| 17:55.40 | XorA|gone | buys bedboi new glasses |
| 17:56.02 | bedboi | eheh |
| 17:56.15 | bedboi | thanks, actually it's not that simple |
| 18:01.48 | XorA|gone | no idea if image works though |
| 18:03.26 | josch | XorA|gone, you didnt test it?? |
| 18:03.35 | XorA|gone | josch: nope |
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| 18:55.34 | wurp2 | emdete: Where is the best place for me to see Zad/Underground status? |
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| 18:56.03 | wurp2 | And, does anyone know how to check the balance on e.g. an AT&T GoPhone account using GSM commands? |
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| 18:59.05 | mmontour | wurp2: I don't know about AT&T, but on my Fido you get the balance by calling *225 and then receiving a USSD message (I posted the exact commands in a bugzilla entry, search for "USSD") |
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| 19:01.14 | wurp2 | mmontour: Thanks much |
| 19:02.28 | wurp2 | I assume libgsmd-tool echoes the USSD message back in atcmd mode? |
| 19:03.38 | wurp2 | I made the call & see the release message, but don't see a USSD message. It sounds as if that method doesn't work for AT&T :-( |
| 19:03.40 | balrog-kun | yes, it is supposed to |
| 19:04.06 | wurp2 | searching bugzilla :-) |
| 19:04.09 | balrog-kun | i haven't seen a network where USSD or any related command would work |
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| 19:04.49 | mmontour | You have to "AT+CUSD=1" or something first to turn on responses |
| 19:06.08 | mmontour | bbiab - lunchtime |
| 19:09.35 | wurp2 | I see the AT+CUSD=1 in the bugzilla entry. Unfortunately I still get the same behavior after that. |
| 19:10.37 | wurp2 | balrog-kun: It looks as if mmontour was seeing USSD responses for Fido (per defect 1226) |
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| 19:11.11 | wurp2 | I also recall having seen the USSD response after dialing a call from libgsmd-tool, but I don't see them any more. |
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| 19:26.50 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r71e1f66d14d8 10/ (src/sim.c test/sim_unit.py): IMSI fixes |
| 19:28.05 | malik1972 | someone with qemu-arm knowledge here? |
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| 19:35.03 | mmontour | wurp2: maybe check the gsmd logfile to see if the responses are coming from the modem but are not making it to libgsmd-tool. Or try the GSM commands from a raw terminal rather than through gsmd |
| 19:35.50 | wurp2 | mmontour: I'll check the log files. I'm not sure how to get a raw terminal to try the commands from... |
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| 19:37.02 | abraxa_ | malik1972: balrog-kun is the one |
| 19:37.10 | mmontour | wiki "Manually using GSM" should have some hints. There is also a terminal pass-through in u-boot. I haven't used this in months so I don't remember the exact commands. |
| 19:37.50 | balrog-kun | malik1972: what knowledge in particular? |
| 19:39.13 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: hi, i am trying to get asu working with qemu-neo1973 |
| 19:40.06 | balrog-kun | hi |
| 19:40.32 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: i get some "not enough memory on device error", booting progress bar is about 100 |
| 19:41.17 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: so i spend qemu more ram and nand (128-128), bit nothing changes |
| 19:42.04 | balrog-kun | malik1972: you probably need to change the partition layout in u-boot, also |
| 19:42.12 | balrog-kun | to get a bigger parttion that is |
| 19:42.20 | balrog-kun | malik1972: i don't think this is related to qemu at al |
| 19:42.21 | balrog-kun | l |
| 19:42.45 | balrog-kun | it's what would happen on a real neo1973 also if you booted the same rootfs |
| 19:43.15 | malik1972 | here is a screenshot http://imagebin.ca/view/4SmKkWxL.html |
| 19:44.18 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: i also tried to boot from sd, it looked very promising, then i got some e17 exquisite error messages |
| 19:44.37 | balrog-kun | malik1972: i'd try the recent asu images from buildhost, i think XorA|gone slimmed them down a fair bit for gta01 |
| 19:45.10 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: i got one slimmed down from kdean6 |
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| 19:46.34 | balrog-kun | lemme check what the default rootfs partition size in flash.sh is, maybe it's an issue of 1 MB or some tiny difference |
| 19:47.02 | malik1972 | do you need any informations of my changes |
| 19:47.12 | balrog-kun | it's 60 MiB |
| 19:47.39 | balrog-kun | you may try to sqeeze 2 addttional MB probably |
| 19:47.48 | malik1972 | i changed the ram in neo1973.c before compiling |
| 19:48.11 | malik1972 | okay will try it |
| 19:48.25 | wurp2 | mmontour: I see the way to access a gsm terminal directly on the wiki. Thanks much! It looks like too much to do at work; I'll check it out tonight. |
| 19:48.25 | balrog-kun | yeah but Linux will not know about your change |
| 19:48.46 | balrog-kun | you would have to make the change in u-boot, same way you would on a Neo1973 |
| 19:48.59 | balrog-kun | seriously it's nothing to do with the emulator |
| 19:49.11 | balrog-kun | try editing the partition layout in openmoko/flash.sh and reflashing |
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| 19:49.48 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: i do not have a neo/freerunner and i need a closer look before i buy it |
| 19:50.36 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: and this asu stuff looks promising |
| 19:51.13 | balrog-kun | yeah, but i mean to answer your question you don't need anybody who knows qemu |
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| 19:51.51 | malik1972 | you are correct |
| 19:52.04 | malik1972 | its an neo issue |
| 19:52.18 | malik1972 | or partition one |
| 19:53.14 | malik1972 | but nand and ram looks okay, used instructions from http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-August/001307.html |
| 19:54.23 | balrog-kun | i'd try the official buildhost images though, because they have been tested to work |
| 19:55.19 | malik1972 | never tried them |
| 19:55.48 | malik1972 | you mean gta02 images? |
| 19:55.57 | wurp2 | malik1972: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Snapshot_review/2008-05-07 |
| 19:57.10 | malik1972 | wurp2: official gta01 images work well with the emulator, also underground, scaredycat etc |
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| 19:58.27 | malik1972 | wurp2: and there is an asu video of kdean06 somewhere in the net |
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| 20:00.47 | wurp2 | I was just pointing you at the official images... as far as I know there is no official asu image |
| 20:02.23 | balrog-kun | there are buildhost asu images for gta01 |
| 20:03.49 | malik1972 | balrog-kun: where? |
| 20:04.10 | balrog-kun | malik1972: on the buildhost :) |
| 20:04.19 | balrog-kun | scrolls up |
| 20:04.30 | wurp2 | balrog-kun: Do you know if anyone has tested them? |
| 20:04.34 | balrog-kun | 19:55 < mmontour> bedboi: try |
| 20:04.34 | balrog-kun | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080524-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 20:04.57 | wurp2 | I know the regular buildhost images we got before Kevin started testing regularly were broken fairly often... |
| 20:05.18 | malik1972 | oookay |
| 20:05.25 | balrog-kun | wurp2: my guess would be that XorA|gone did when he enabled them in OE on buildhost |
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| 20:06.10 | XorA|gone | never tested them |
| 20:06.12 | mwester | thinks that the GTA01 images are not tested at this moment. |
| 20:06.36 | balrog-kun | oh, well :p |
| 20:06.40 | ljp | go on... do the test... |
| 20:06.48 | XorA|gone | cant test them |
| 20:06.57 | wurp2 | ljp: excellent point |
| 20:07.03 | ljp | i would but my gta01 is at the office |
| 20:07.15 | wurp2 | Of course, testing on the emulator would be very painful for me |
| 20:07.21 | ljp | i am ure _someone_ will :) |
| 20:07.29 | ljp | sure, that is |
| 20:07.30 | wurp2 | emulator runs astoundingly slowly on my machine |
| 20:07.41 | ljp | emulator runs slow on any machine |
| 20:07.48 | wurp2 | well, it did - I've upgraded since then, it might be usable now |
| 20:07.48 | mwester | wurp2: use your neo! |
| 20:08.10 | balrog-kun | ljp: except on my machine and other x86_64 machines :) |
| 20:08.20 | balrog-kun | where it runs faster than a neo1973 |
| 20:08.21 | wurp2 | Well, it took many minutes to start an app. I'm pretty sure it was lots slower for me than most ppl |
| 20:08.31 | wurp2 | mwester: Yeah, I would if I were home |
| 20:08.36 | wurp2 | No dfu-util here |
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| 20:08.48 | wurp2 | And, I don't think I really want to run the asu right now :-) |
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| 20:09.26 | wurp2 | I prefer to let more eager people guinea pig it for me. I wouldn't mind testing it then wiping, but again, no dfu here :-/ |
| 20:10.00 | mwester | wurp2: to be honest, I went back to the standard GTK-based image after attempting to use it for a while; it needs much more than polish ;) |
| 20:11.02 | XorA|gone | heh, seems everyone in openmoko community wants someone else to do the work :-) |
| 20:11.20 | wurp2 | I think the next thing I try will be Zad/Underground. If I can get a terminal to run on it and something resembling a music player, I'll prolly switch to it |
| 20:11.20 | Qwell | s/openmoko/every/ |
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| 20:12.11 | ljp | XorA|gone: thats the way of open source... |
| 20:12.23 | malik1972 | wurp2: i have seen zad live in action |
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| 20:12.26 | Qwell | s/open source/humanity/ |
| 20:12.28 | ljp | come to think of it, thats the way in some businesses as well |
| 20:12.32 | wurp2 | malik1972: I ran it on my neo for a while |
| 20:12.45 | wurp2 | But I didn't realize that I could opkg install stuff at the time |
| 20:12.54 | wurp2 | And basically all it had at the time was a dialer |
| 20:13.26 | XorA|gone | Qwell: heh |
| 20:13.37 | mwester | :) Living on the bleeding edge is a relatively solitary lifestyle ;) |
| 20:13.47 | wurp2 | malik1972: At the time it was called Underground. I think it's the same thing as Zad... |
| 20:14.10 | malik1972 | wurp2: yes |
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| 20:14.44 | malik1972 | wurp2: since yesterday i know the origins --> the jam, underground song |
| 20:15.42 | malik1972 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whSYTSXm8wo |
| 20:15.58 | wurp2 | work blocks streaming video |
| 20:16.02 | wurp2 | but I emailed it to myself |
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| 20:17.04 | malik1972 | ahh, ok |
| 20:17.49 | malik1972 | wurp2: you may download it, convert it to ascii art and play it;-) |
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| 20:20.54 | wurp2 | malik1972: Well, they block the URLs... I could set up a web proxy to do it for me, but I think I'll just wait until I get off work ;-) |
| 20:21.19 | wurp2 | (actually, I suspect they block based on mime-type, but either way...) |
| 20:22.14 | SpeedEvil | waits for cb22 to make a youtube-ascii service |
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| 21:00.07 | ccfly | good night |
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| 21:42.55 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * rb2803e294ac3 10/ophoned/gsm/ (mediator.py unsol.py): |
| 21:42.55 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: python-ophoned: add CLIP reporting, fix remote hangup timeout, add more InternalErrors instead of asserting/traceback |
| 21:42.55 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: on server side |
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| 22:58.06 | bedboi | i'm trying ASU for gta01 |
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| 23:04.24 | caratorn | hello all, does anyone created a web page for a project on projects.openmoko.org? I can't find the Project WWW directory on shell server |
| 23:08.17 | caratorn | ok, i found it |
| 23:20.48 | Psi | whats the latest build with a working sdcard driver? i can seem to find any |
| 23:27.25 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03alphaone * r4455 10/developers/alphaone/u-blox/libubx/ (COPYING ChangeLog src/libubx.c src/ubx-parse.c): |
| 23:27.25 | CIA-43 | openmoko: LibUBX |
| 23:27.25 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * COPYING src/libubx.c, src/ubx-parse.c: Add license |
| 23:27.31 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03alphaone * r4456 10/developers/alphaone/u-blox/libubx/ (ChangeLog src/Makefile.am src/ubx-get.c): * libubx/src/Makefile.am, libubx/src/ubx-get.c: Add boilerplate code for ubx-get |
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| 23:27.44 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * libubx/include/libubx.h, libubx/src/libubx.c: Add funtions for parsing and |
| 23:27.44 | CIA-43 | openmoko: generating almanac and ephemeris packets. |
| 23:27.44 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * libubx/src/ubx-get.c: Add support to get almanac from GPS device. |
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| 23:34.13 | mmontour | Psi: "working sdcard driver" - do you mean u-boot or the Linux kernel? AFAIK any recent kernel should be fine. |
| 23:34.57 | Psi | kernel |
| 23:35.42 | mmontour | What problem do you have? Is it a suspend/resume issue, or just normal operation? |
| 23:36.29 | Psi | the card isnt mounted |
| 23:37.25 | Psi | device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist |
| 23:38.02 | Psi | it used to automount on boot, in the 3 recent builds i tried its device isnt even there |
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| 23:44.06 | mmontour | Psi: I'm using a kernel from May 21 (built with MokoMakefile) and it sees the card OK. Try looking in your dmesg for any messages about "mmc" or "s3c2410-sdi" |
| 23:44.29 | SpeedEvil | Psi: and remove and reinsert the card |
| 23:44.32 | Psi | ok, in just restarting to check that the sdcard is actually in the phone properly |
| 23:44.37 | Psi | in=i'm |
| 23:44.52 | Psi | SpeedEvil, heh snap |
| 23:45.08 | SpeedEvil | The socket is evil. |
| 23:45.14 | SpeedEvil | Is the same socket on GTA02? |
| 23:45.22 | SpeedEvil | XorA|gon? |
| 23:45.26 | SpeedEvil | oh |
| 23:49.53 | mwester | Same design, different orientation, seems a bit stiffer (and less likely to break). |
| 23:50.34 | mwester | Psi: there was an image or two (or three) where the SD card filesystem would be corrupted when mounted; perhaps you should check to see if it still has a valid filesystem on it? |
| 23:50.37 | XorA|gone | SpeedEvil: totally new socket on gta02, works much better |
| 23:50.47 | Psi | mwester, heh yeah |
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| 23:52.14 | Psi | lots of "Buffer I/O error on device mmcblk0" in dmesg :( |
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| 23:56.24 | Psi | card fs seems fine, just tried in windows pc |