| 00:01.58 | bastian | shit, the binary is missing in this package |
| 00:03.32 | zash | c2d is 64b afaik |
| 00:03.47 | bastian | shure? |
| 00:03.48 | mjr | yes |
| 00:04.07 | bastian | k, then next time i install a 64bit ystem |
| 00:04.52 | zash | but unless you have more than 3-4GB RAM, 64b os isnt meaningful |
| 00:05.21 | bastian | no, just 2 |
| 00:05.27 | balrog-kun | zash: why? |
| 00:05.36 | balrog-kun | has 2GB and loves the 64-bit system |
| 00:05.39 | bastian | and this laptop cant take more |
| 00:05.58 | mjr | is less meaningful, rather |
| 00:06.00 | mmontour | bastian: you can just build gcc from source. You may already have a gcc-3.4 tarball in your OM 'sources' download directory. You can use something like "--program-suffix=3.4" to prevent it from conflicting with other versions |
| 00:06.33 | balrog-kun | there's so much more optimisation gcc can do on x86_64 |
| 00:06.35 | bastian | thx, i try |
| 00:07.13 | mmontour | bastian: and then pass "-cc=/path/to/gcc-3.4" to the qemu ./configure |
| 00:10.14 | bastian | how can i find out wheter i have such a tarball in the OM directory? |
| 00:10.33 | bastian | i cant find anything that looks like gcc |
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| 00:11.37 | mmontour | mmontour@tuxbox:~/moko> ls sources/gcc-3.4* |
| 00:11.42 | mmontour | sources/gcc-3.4.4.tar.bz2 sources/gcc-3.4.4.tar.bz2.md5 |
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| 00:13.00 | bastian | i dont have a folder called sources |
| 00:14.33 | mmontour | bastian: Are you using MokoMakefile? |
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| 00:14.53 | bastian | no, i use the ahowto at, ... (1 moment) |
| 00:15.34 | bastian | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU |
| 00:15.56 | bastian | section manual setup |
| 00:17.26 | bastian | is the way with the makefile more easy? |
| 00:17.52 | bastian | or does it has less problems with gcc 4.2? |
| 00:18.19 | zash | balrog-kun: for someone doing mosty webdev-stuff, how is 64b better than 32b? |
| 00:20.57 | Sonicadvance | balrog-kun, What more optimization can gcc do under 64bit? |
| 00:22.15 | balrog-kun | zash: for someone doing webdev stuff perhaps it's only the speed-up |
| 00:22.48 | balrog-kun | Sonicadvance: it has like 30 registers (don't know exactly) to put temporary values in instead of about 5 registers |
| 00:23.32 | wiml | yeah, x86_64 has a somewhat modern register set, instead of the 1970's set that x86_32 has |
| 00:24.04 | Sonicadvance | But you would need to know ASM really to take advantage of the registers anyway =o |
| 00:24.25 | Sonicadvance | for someone that knows just C/C++, wouldn't be much of an advantage |
| 00:24.52 | mmontour | bastian: for your immediate problem it's probably better to just download a gcc-3.4 tarball from somewhere. However, in general MokoMakefile is easier than doing things by hand. |
| 00:24.58 | balrog-kun | Sonicadvance: no, gcc chooses the registers for you |
| 00:24.59 | wiml | no, the compiler can make use of the extra registers -> better compiled code |
| 00:25.08 | Sonicadvance | I see |
| 00:25.14 | Sonicadvance | Oh well, I'm using 64bit anyway :P |
| 00:25.19 | Sonicadvance | os[ryan@yesm, Linux 2.6.24-17-rt x86_64] |
| 00:26.00 | balrog-kun | Sonicadvance: when there are more temporaries, it stores them in memory and on every access has to read the value into the register before it, and store it again after that |
| 00:26.12 | Sonicadvance | of course |
| 00:26.23 | wiml | disadvantage is, wider ints and pointers can increase the amount of memory you use, and memory bandwidth is often the bottleneck in modern systems |
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| 00:26.32 | zash | bought the cheapest and crappiest vista capable laptop that could be found withouth preinstalled os |
| 00:26.39 | balrog-kun | Sonicadvance: and when there are not enough to load all the arguments for a given operation into registers, you get the error that bastian paster |
| 00:26.42 | balrog-kun | pasted |
| 00:26.47 | zash | vista capable + ubuntu = win |
| 00:27.38 | Sonicadvance | ah |
| 00:27.57 | Sonicadvance | Thank you for showing me the light ;) |
| 00:28.48 | mjr | wiml, yeah, but in practice it seems that x86_64 advantages outweigh those disads for "most" loads |
| 00:29.18 | mjr | now, on something sane to start with, say sparc, you would expect 64-bit code to be a tad slower than 32- |
| 00:29.59 | Sonicadvance | Also, since the Freerunner has a fully powered USB hub, that means you could plug...say... a gamepad in to it and it would work :D |
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| 01:26.26 | bastian | thx, mmontour |
| 01:26.33 | bastian | it seems to have worked |
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| 03:09.27 | pjz | woo, steve@openmoo says productin within the next week or so! |
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| 03:25.29 | zash | moo |
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| 03:38.41 | pjz | s/moo/moko/ |
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| 03:41.20 | mwester | !logs |
| 03:41.22 | cdbot2 | Channel logs for #openmoko are archived at: |
| 03:41.22 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23openmoko |
| 03:41.23 | cdbot2 | Live-logs are available at |
| 03:41.24 | cdbot2 | http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23openmoko.livelog |
| 03:41.26 | cdbot2 | See ?? help-logs for usage instructions |
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| 04:19.22 | doobe01 | ?? |
| 04:19.30 | doobe01 | ?? help-logs |
| 04:19.31 | cdbot2 | help-logs[1]: Available commands are: !logs !pauselog <MINUTES> !logstatus |
| 04:19.32 | cdbot2 | help-logs[2]: !enablelog, !disablelog |
| 04:19.33 | cdbot2 | help-logs[3]: !stamp (Add timestamp to channel logfile) |
| 04:20.52 | doobe01 | !openmoko |
| 04:24.16 | doc|home | is the warranty on the phone just 28 days? |
| 04:24.19 | doc|home | that's not great :/ |
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| 04:37.10 | doobe01 | i have been reading a lot of the wiki and i am just wondering if there is a page to see what software is operational for the freerunner? |
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| 04:40.42 | paulproteus | openmoo! |
| 04:42.05 | doobe01 | openmoo! |
| 04:42.07 | doobe01 | ? |
| 04:47.22 | zash | no matter what you do |
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| 04:56.52 | paulproteus | <pjz> woo, steve@openmoo says productin within the next week or so! |
| 04:56.57 | paulproteus | Hence, openmoo. (-: |
| 04:56.58 | doc|home | :D |
| 04:57.19 | doc|home | I'm way behind on the list, any timeframe between production and deliveries? |
| 04:57.31 | doc|home | even a rough one? |
| 04:57.43 | linuxxr | soon? |
| 04:57.45 | paulproteus | I've no idea myself. |
| 05:01.10 | zash | like, next week or thereabout? |
| 05:02.37 | zash | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/016738.html |
| 05:02.57 | zash | [...]Â and mass production is slated to start on may 9. |
| 05:03.05 | zash | Fri May 9 07:03:05 CEST 2008 |
| 05:04.48 | zash | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/016972.html |
| 05:07.45 | Doobe08 | i have been reading a lot of the wiki and i am just wondering if there is a page to see what software is operational for the freerunner? |
| 05:09.05 | zash | Doobe08: like this: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications ? |
| 05:09.57 | Doobe08 | cool, i saw that page awhile ago...thanks |
| 05:11.13 | zash | but there is most likley a shitload of other software that random ppl have ported/developed |
| 05:12.03 | zash | ah |
| 05:12.05 | zash | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Community_Applications |
| 05:12.29 | zash | not that many projects there, but its a start :D |
| 05:16.44 | holycow | *oooo* |
| 05:16.47 | holycow | can't wait to order one |
| 05:17.44 | zash | holy cow! |
| 05:18.44 | holycow | :) |
| 05:19.32 | Outlander | haha full ajax on your mobile phone |
| 05:20.54 | Outlander | cool |
| 05:21.08 | holycow | full linux on your phone |
| 05:21.25 | holycow | apps haveto be scaled down and rethought a bit tho |
| 05:21.56 | zash | haha full freedom on your mobile phone |
| 05:22.10 | zash | :D |
| 05:24.20 | fenfir | does i386-darwin have the same attributes as powerpc-darwin, ie would the following be correct? |
| 05:24.21 | fenfir | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.21 | fenfir | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:04.00 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03vesa.pikki * r849bdb5f45cb 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Added ActivateConference method |
| 06:04.00 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03vesa.pikki * r76b0ae4a2a15 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Added a mechanism to release serial ports when modem is not responding. |
| 06:04.01 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03vesa.pikki * r2238c7cc048e 10/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:04.01 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Modified atcommandcontext's handler_data to ghashtable |
| 06:04.03 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Fixed all command's that used handler_data to use it as a hashtable |
| 06:04.05 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03vesa.pikki * re354baa70736 10/ (16 files in 4 dirs): Fixed bugs that were caused by changing handler_data to ghashtable |
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| 07:16.44 | Outlander | just saw http://www.hackaday.com/2008/05/07/gpl-vs-skype-back-in-court/ |
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| 07:27.03 | cekay | hi guys |
| 07:28.31 | Outlander | hi |
| 07:28.37 | Outlander | http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/ so they won? they beat skype? |
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| 07:32.35 | raster | skype raised its hands in surrender |
| 07:34.08 | zash | nice |
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| 07:47.28 | cb22 | f-f-f-finish them |
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| 07:50.07 | abraxa_ | From: Openmoko Admin Trac <bugs@admin-trac.openmoko.org> |
| 07:50.13 | abraxa_ | Kennt das wer von euch? |
| 07:50.50 | abraxa_ | oops, wrong chan |
| 07:52.00 | ScaredyCat | was that meant for #pr0n ? |
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| 07:52.44 | abraxa_ | ScaredyCat: ssshh |
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| 08:16.47 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 08:18.17 | nab | waves |
| 08:19.18 | nab | reads http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/03/design-your-own.html |
| 08:19.28 | nab | That is seriously a good article. :-) |
| 08:19.45 | nab | Espically for the more non-tech folks I think. |
| 08:19.58 | ScaredyCat | except the freerunner case is different |
| 08:20.12 | nab | Oh..? |
| 08:20.53 | nab | remembers seem some photos on Flickr of the Freerunner prototype case.. |
| 08:21.06 | nab | It was all black, yes..? |
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| 08:21.36 | nab | I don't recall the rev on it.. :-) |
| 08:21.40 | ScaredyCat | not just the colour |
| 08:22.04 | nab | Slimmer..? :-) |
| 08:22.27 | ScaredyCat | lol, no |
| 08:23.03 | ScaredyCat | it's close but iirc there are some internal differences, and there's only 1 speaker (and grill) |
| 08:23.13 | nab | Ah yes.. |
| 08:23.28 | nab | remembers |
| 08:24.08 | nab | Actually, I was asking about the TCP bandwith to the Atheros b/g ASIC last night.. |
| 08:24.28 | nab | I think the first run a tests from a few weeks ago where in the 900 Kb/sec range.. |
| 08:24.42 | nab | For userspace networking I/O (ie: w/ copy_to_user()) |
| 08:25.21 | nab | It will be interesting to see if the kernel level socket stuff (plus sendpage()) will have a moderate gain compared to the userpsace traffic. |
| 08:26.01 | nab | So it should hopefully be the fastest method of accessing storage (eg: struct block_device) on the device. |
| 08:26.30 | nab | I don't recall reading what the numbers where for FS level access on the different methods of flash access on the Freerunner. |
| 08:26.52 | nab | But I assume the flash and microSD will be slower than that. |
| 08:27.06 | nab | (or so has been the case with other linux mobile devices :-) |
| 08:27.14 | nab | But anyways. |
| 08:27.55 | nab | I am really excited to get my hands on one of the devices. :-) |
| 08:28.22 | nab | Doing shared storage between the maemo and openmoko devices is going to be very interesting. |
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| 08:29.27 | nab | Well, between those devices and x86 VMs. |
| 08:29.48 | nab | Having v2.6.24 out the door on the Freerunner is pretty awesome. |
| 08:30.02 | nab | Lots and lots and lots of options with a v2.6.24 Linux kernel. |
| 08:30.03 | nab | :-) |
| 08:30.34 | nab | is still having issues with < 2.6.22 for shared storage iSCSI/Wifi |
| 08:31.06 | nab | Nothing major, just some Distributed Lock Manager wire protocol versioning issues (>= 2.6.22 uses DLM v8) |
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| 08:39.57 | rwhitby | Is there a binary of the qtopia-x11 image for gta02 available anywhere? |
| 08:40.53 | rwhitby | (it doesn't build for me - fails in packagekit_git with "pk-backend-opkg.c:33:21: error: libopkg.h: No such file or directory" |
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| 08:45.54 | cekay | i would love to have an qtopia image for the gta02 |
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| 08:47.06 | woglinde | cekay it is in work |
| 08:47.15 | woglinde | I hope |
| 08:49.11 | cekay | :) |
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| 09:01.04 | rwhitby | well, there was a test report on it posted to the mailing list, so someone in openmoko has a binary image. it doesn't seem to be on buildhost however. |
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| 09:02.02 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1387 has been created by tony(AT)openmoko.com |
| 09:02.03 | cdbot2 | * * wi-fi connection un-stable in ASU image sets |
| 09:02.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1387 |
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| 09:28.38 | ScaredyCat | rwhitby: I think that's a test version, the repo version just doens't build |
| 09:34.26 | XorA | rwhitby: heh, Ill try and sort that, qtopia-x11 was until recently in a branch |
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| 10:45.12 | rewers | hello |
| 10:45.43 | rwhitby | XorA: thx |
| 10:47.39 | rewers | steve wrote in the community mailing list that the production of the freerunner would start today. does anybody know something about it? |
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| 10:49.05 | mjr | Steve sid yesterday " |
| 10:49.05 | mjr | Steve sid yesterday "Mass Pro is slated to start between may9 and may 16. Steve's rule say add a |
| 10:49.08 | mjr | week. Then you got test, then you shipping. |
| 10:49.39 | rewers | i see. thx. |
| 10:52.48 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4418 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/ (4 files in 3 dirs): opkg: implement opkg_find_package() |
| 10:53.20 | nab | What is ASU again..? |
| 10:53.37 | nab | looks @ http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1387 |
| 10:55.58 | stefan_schmidt | nab: April Software Update |
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| 10:56.08 | stefan_schmidt | nab: well, a bit late already. ;) |
| 10:56.24 | nab | Ahhh.. |
| 10:56.28 | nab | Thanks. :-) |
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| 11:11.23 | ScaredyCat | XorA: did you say you *were* going to fix the qt xq11 error or your *had* ? |
| 11:11.26 | nab | wonders what the wifi ASU bug is related to.. |
| 11:11.35 | ScaredyCat | cheese |
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| 11:11.46 | nab | I wish I could help, but my experience with WifI ASICs is kinda limited. |
| 11:12.25 | nab | The bugzilla entry sounds like its driver related..? |
| 11:12.41 | stefan_schmidt | nab: yes |
| 11:12.49 | nab | Hrmmm |
| 11:13.28 | nab | The Atheros driver on pre GTA02v5 was stable at some point, yes..? |
| 11:13.49 | nab | I assume it was validated on the GTA02v5 samples too..? |
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| 11:14.11 | XorA | ScaredyCat: no, that I would see about getting images generated |
| 11:14.14 | nab | wonders what the validation process for the driver looks like.. |
| 11:14.22 | ScaredyCat | :/ |
| 11:14.36 | nab | I can think of one really good one (core-iscsi-dv) for testing the validity of the iSCSI/Wifi transport. |
| 11:15.18 | nab | It writes a known patter of sectors across the iSCSI struct block_device and does a read-back and compare across all possible RFC-3720 parameter combinations. |
| 11:15.34 | nab | (Which can easily get into the 1,000,000,000s, but I normally use about 8K |
| 11:16.15 | nab | Anyways, it will be really good indication of the stability of the kernel, MM, storage, and network systems. |
| 11:17.00 | nab | Hopefully I can get one of those samples and try it for myself.. :P |
| 11:17.05 | nab | has a debug board too |
| 11:17.37 | nab | You can do serial console via the debug board and Wifi access with GTA02v5 at the same time, yes..? |
| 11:18.49 | nab | looks for Harald |
| 11:18.55 | nab | :-) |
| 11:19.45 | nab | wishes he had kdb for arch/arm for the really difficult bugs |
| 11:20.29 | nab | Having to use printk()s is a tough job.. :P |
| 11:20.50 | nab | s/use/only use |
| 11:23.20 | stefan_schmidt | nab: Well, there were kgdb patches for arm floating around |
| 11:23.50 | nab | googles |
| 11:23.54 | SpeedEvil | nab: they are on totally different busses |
| 11:24.00 | SpeedEvil | nab: I see no reaon why not |
| 11:24.27 | nab | I usually use kdb for interactive stuff (obviously :-) and gdb for source debugging. |
| 11:24.41 | nab | It just sucks that kgdb takes a few beats to get setup |
| 11:24.44 | nab | :-) |
| 11:24.57 | nab | SpeedEvil: Thanks |
| 11:25.41 | nab | I still usually use serial console for getting OOPens off the device |
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| 11:26.06 | nab | But I think that the crashdump stuff will probably be where alot of the devs move towards |
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| 11:26.18 | nab | I don't recall if that is real architecture specific or not. |
| 11:26.50 | nab | I would assume the latter as long as the storage devices are still working to dump the object code onto disk |
| 11:27.13 | SpeedEvil | the problem is that the SD is hung out on a seperate device. |
| 11:27.15 | SpeedEvil | The GPU. |
| 11:27.22 | nab | Hrmmm |
| 11:27.27 | nab | That certainly makes things interesting |
| 11:27.29 | SpeedEvil | Which can crash. |
| 11:27.45 | nab | So let me get this straight.. |
| 11:27.55 | nab | We have to depend on X for our crashdump output..!? |
| 11:27.57 | nab | :-) |
| 11:28.00 | SpeedEvil | no. |
| 11:28.05 | nab | (just kidding :-) |
| 11:28.24 | nab | I just figured that had phrase had never been said before, so I thought I would take it. :-) |
| 11:28.28 | SpeedEvil | the kernel driver for the GPU and the SD AIUI work together to share the bus. |
| 11:28.28 | nab | hehe |
| 11:28.38 | nab | nods |
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| 11:29.37 | nab | SpeedEvil: Is this the case for GTA01 and GTA02..? |
| 11:29.42 | SpeedEvil | no. |
| 11:29.48 | SpeedEvil | GTA01 has it directly conected. |
| 11:31.21 | nab | Hrmm, well I have seem some folks do the crashdump stuff using ethernet.. |
| 11:31.44 | nab | I don't recall if it was UDP or TCP or what.. |
| 11:31.45 | SpeedEvil | Things that'd work would be point drivers that took down the normal USB interface, and brought it up and used it to either act as a serial port, or a mass-storage device, or the bluetooth device. |
| 11:32.13 | nab | point drivers..? |
| 11:32.33 | SpeedEvil | You do _not_ want the whole USB driver stack involved in a crash. |
| 11:32.46 | nab | nods |
| 11:33.16 | SpeedEvil | You need to restart the USB device, and then simply use a minimal bit of code that is a serial device only, or a mass-storage device. |
| 11:33.32 | nab | Makes sense. |
| 11:34.03 | SpeedEvil | So it displays 'crashed' on the raw framebuffer, or flashes an LED, or ... and then waits till you connect it to something to read it. |
| 11:34.25 | nab | That is pretty slick. :-) |
| 11:34.40 | SpeedEvil | Stating slick features is easy. |
| 11:34.52 | nab | Well, I am not sure if that is a feature |
| 11:34.55 | SpeedEvil | Coding them is another matter. |
| 11:35.06 | nab | end user feature |
| 11:35.09 | nab | Well then again.. :-) |
| 11:35.22 | nab | It does sound pretty useful for debugging various failures |
| 11:35.28 | SpeedEvil | Well - ... |
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| 11:35.38 | SpeedEvil | You really don't need to go that deep. |
| 11:35.53 | nab | Espically if those dumps can get back to openmoko.org without much for user.. |
| 11:35.59 | SpeedEvil | For most user crashes. |
| 11:36.02 | nab | s/for/from |
| 11:36.18 | nab | <nod> |
| 11:36.18 | SpeedEvil | oopses should - hopefully - be much rarer than on normal hardware. |
| 11:36.31 | nab | Of course |
| 11:36.32 | nab | :-) |
| 11:36.43 | SpeedEvil | As you've got no way - well - no easy way - of plugging in random stuff to core busses. |
| 11:36.45 | nab | I suppose I was linking a bit for generally for system debug/devel |
| 11:37.00 | SpeedEvil | That's somewhat covered by JTAG. |
| 11:37.13 | SpeedEvil | And even ssh. |
| 11:37.21 | nab | Heh |
| 11:37.35 | nab | Well, for a long time some of the embedded linux stuff used telnetd |
| 11:37.37 | SpeedEvil | Most of the 'interesting' work is not in the kernel space. |
| 11:37.44 | nab | Thankfully all of the v2.6 ones have dropbrear or openssh |
| 11:37.57 | SpeedEvil | It's all in GUI. |
| 11:38.10 | nab | :-) |
| 11:38.21 | SpeedEvil | And the GUI is something for which SSH works just fine generally. |
| 11:38.31 | nab | Yep |
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| 11:50.06 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4419 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: opkg: protect against NULL src |
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| 12:31.52 | rwhitby | XorA: it seems qtopia-x11-image builds, as long as you don't have moko-autorev |
| 12:32.10 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: can you build it for your feeds? |
| 12:32.27 | ScaredyCat | hrm |
| 12:32.52 | ScaredyCat | I tried here - it failed... am_installdirs ?) error iirc |
| 12:33.01 | XorA | rwhitby: thats to be expected |
| 12:33.51 | ScaredyCat | is opemembeded.org fucked again? |
| 12:34.22 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: I just built it using mokomakefile |
| 12:34.34 | rwhitby | just about to flash it ... |
| 12:36.08 | ScaredyCat | but the mf doesn't do anything other that a bb of the image, right? |
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| 12:40.38 | ScaredyCat | | automake: undefined condition `TRUE' for `am__installdirs' |
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| 12:52.15 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03vesa.pikki * r231c41c684c2 10/src/ (13 files): SIM and Device's methods now require OK before sending ipc response. |
| 12:52.16 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03vesa.pikki * r4baa188b67f9 10/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:52.16 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Added helper functions for caching handler data |
| 12:52.16 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: Continued changing handlers to cache data. |
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| 13:01.50 | rwhitby | Hmm - qtopia-x11-image flashes and boots, but I have no idea how to drive it. |
| 13:02.54 | rwhitby | On the home screen, you get four big grey blotchy boxes: Internet/Diversity Nav, Multimedia/Media Player, Office/Active Calls, Settings/Appearance |
| 13:03.46 | rwhitby | Diversity Nav shows a map when you push it - looks like OSM data |
| 13:03.54 | rwhitby | you can pan and zoom the map with your finger |
| 13:04.48 | rwhitby | No indication of how to bring up a menu or gps or anything like that. |
| 13:04.55 | rwhitby | power and aux keys do nothing |
| 13:05.25 | rwhitby | small arrow up the top which lets you get back to the home screen - looks like a task switcher |
| 13:06.03 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1388 has been created by fr-om(AT)tourde.org |
| 13:06.03 | cdbot2 | * * ge gpe-scap_1.3.bb won't build |
| 13:06.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1388 |
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| 13:10.38 | ScaredyCat | maybe |
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| 13:16.58 | rwhitby | Grr - python-efl.inc uses pushd and popd, which means it don't work on Ubuntu dash shell |
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| 13:18.43 | mickeyl | sorry |
| 13:18.47 | mickeyl | feel free to patch it out |
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| 13:19.21 | mickeyl | and |
| 13:19.23 | mickeyl | ~lart dash btw. |
| 13:19.23 | apt | --purges dash btw. |
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| 13:33.33 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03trimarchi 07stable * r7dc8a18752da 10/cpu/arm920t/s3c24x0/nand_read.c: nand_skip_bad.patch |
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| 13:35.56 | mickeyl | trimarchi ??? |
| 13:37.08 | ScaredyCat | introduces mickeyl's right hand to trimarchi's left hand |
| 13:37.14 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r9dc419586897 10/ousaged/modules/generic.py: Add simple selftest |
| 13:38.19 | mickeyl | *shake* |
| 13:38.42 | milos__ | what is the standard scripting language in OM? Python? |
| 13:39.11 | ScaredyCat | bash |
| 13:39.25 | zash | ScaredyCat: oh hells yeah! |
| 13:39.42 | Gottox | I thought it was busybox-ash? |
| 13:40.29 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickey * rb3825ebafea0 10/mickeyterm/TODO: add TODO indicating plans for version 3.0 and 3.1 |
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| 13:41.06 | mickeyl | milos__: de jure: none. de facto: Python |
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| 13:42.05 | milos__ | mickeyl, so it is? |
| 13:42.29 | milos__ | i now bash is included. |
| 13:42.35 | milos__ | know |
| 13:43.48 | rwhitby | mickeyl: I don't know the dash equivalent of pushd/popd :-( |
| 13:44.06 | mickeyl | rwhitby: heh. then do it absolutely |
| 13:44.10 | mickeyl | cd ${S}/foo |
| 13:44.14 | rwhitby | maybe bitbake should run the scripts it generates using bash :-) |
| 13:44.53 | rwhitby | mickeyl: which image is going to ship on the MP GTA02's? |
| 13:45.11 | rwhitby | openmoko-devel, qtopia-x11, something else? |
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| 13:45.22 | mickeyl | that's out of my responsibility, but my guess is openmoko or openmoko-devel |
| 13:45.32 | mickeyl | qtopia-x11 will be a later update |
| 13:46.02 | ScaredyCat | 'later update' ? |
| 13:46.09 | ScaredyCat | gerroff |
| 13:46.17 | ScaredyCat | once it's mine - it's mine |
| 13:46.25 | mickeyl | sure |
| 13:46.30 | mickeyl | but that's us |
| 13:46.35 | ScaredyCat | installs msdos |
| 13:46.58 | mickeyl | we hope we can sell FreeRunner also to people who don't know why we are doing that at all |
| 13:47.03 | mickeyl | :) |
| 13:47.13 | mickeyl | and for those, some blessed updates may make sense |
| 13:47.17 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 13:47.21 | zash | ScaredyCat: why not win3.1? |
| 13:47.44 | ScaredyCat | zash: guis are too advanced for me.. |
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| 13:48.12 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: we need something in your image which does the gllin to bluetooth rfcomm trick, so I can use the Neo as the bluetooth GPS for my N800 ... |
| 13:48.28 | mickeyl | ScaredyCat: *nod* I'm doing the framework initiative more or less for you :) |
| 13:48.45 | mickeyl | with the framework in place, you will be able to do a full command line or ncurses feature phone app |
| 13:48.48 | ScaredyCat | :D |
| 13:48.50 | mickeyl | bbiab |
| 13:48.54 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: where do you keep the public repo of the stuff that you've added to your image? |
| 13:49.01 | rwhitby | (the source repo that is) |
| 13:49.01 | ScaredyCat | errm... |
| 13:49.20 | ScaredyCat | well the source is on you device... |
| 13:49.23 | ScaredyCat | your |
| 13:49.28 | rwhitby | ah, it's all scripts? |
| 13:49.31 | ScaredyCat | yes |
| 13:49.34 | ScaredyCat | magic! |
| 13:49.36 | ScaredyCat | see |
| 13:50.12 | rwhitby | you gonna put them in a scaredycat project at projects.openmoko.org or something, so you can give me write access to upgrade your scripts to work on gta02 too? |
| 13:50.47 | ScaredyCat | ok, but I'll probably tackle that tomorrow... if I can work out the porojects site... |
| 13:51.28 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: I'd like to be able to modify MokoMakefile to build scaredycat images ... |
| 13:51.44 | rwhitby | so we need to be able to build them from publicly available repos |
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| 13:52.17 | ScaredyCat | :o |
| 13:52.19 | ScaredyCat | ok. |
| 13:52.26 | zeno__ | is 3g in freerunner? |
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| 13:52.32 | rwhitby | no |
| 13:52.34 | ScaredyCat | just registered with projects |
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| 13:52.57 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: my nick is the same there, for when you come to adding developers to your project |
| 13:53.17 | ScaredyCat | k |
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| 13:57.00 | rwhitby | welcomes ScaredyCat to the MokoMakefile development team |
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| 13:57.39 | ScaredyCat | fixes all the bugs :P |
| 14:01.02 | rwhitby | goes to bed, and looks for all the bugs to be fixed by tomorrow |
| 14:01.24 | zash | rwhitby: what an execlet time to go to bed at :D |
| 14:01.53 | rwhitby | 11:30pm - yep, a reasonable time to go to bed. |
| 14:02.14 | zash | 16:02 here :D |
| 14:02.22 | rwhitby | ~ugt |
| 14:02.23 | apt | from memory, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 14:02.46 | zash | :D |
| 14:03.13 | zash | go to bed != leaveing channel ;D |
| 14:05.06 | ScaredyCat | ok, I've registerd the project, I guess I just need to wait for approval |
| 14:05.59 | ScaredyCat | (and then fix all the fudges) |
| 14:06.19 | rwhitby | nothing like public scrutiny to cause code to get cleaned up :-) |
| 14:06.26 | ScaredyCat | heheh |
| 14:06.42 | ScaredyCat | well, it's not exactly hidden at the moment |
| 14:06.49 | rwhitby | adds a symlink from opkg to ipkg |
| 14:06.59 | rwhitby | damn muscle memory ... |
| 14:07.10 | ScaredyCat | yes... might add that to my images :D |
| 14:09.07 | ScaredyCat | "The OpenMokoProjects admin team will now examine your project submission. Â You will be notified of their decision." |
| 14:09.47 | ScaredyCat | sounds like some mafia thing... |
| 14:10.03 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: you should add tzdata to your image to, so people can change the timezone easily |
| 14:10.11 | ScaredyCat | "You will be notified of their decision and when summary execution will take place/2 |
| 14:10.22 | rwhitby | does ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Adelaide /etc/localtime |
| 14:10.31 | ScaredyCat | yes, I did have tzdata on there.... |
| 14:10.33 | ScaredyCat | checks |
| 14:10.53 | rwhitby | oh yeah, you do ;-) |
| 14:11.14 | ScaredyCat | hehehe |
| 14:12.10 | ScaredyCat | timzone script next then :) |
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| 14:16.29 | rwhitby | ScaredyCat: just import /home/moko/newBuild/local into svn, and we'll get mokomakefile to overlay it |
| 14:17.13 | ScaredyCat | looks at rwhitby suspiciously... |
| 14:17.20 | ScaredyCat | how do you know my buildpath? |
| 14:17.30 | rwhitby | all your base belong to me |
| 14:17.33 | ScaredyCat | lol |
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| 14:18.10 | rwhitby | Source: field in task-openmoko-scaredycat |
| 14:18.22 | ScaredyCat | ahhh |
| 14:18.33 | rwhitby | it's got your password in there too ... |
| 14:18.46 | rwhitby | 'tiddles01' |
| 14:18.57 | ScaredyCat | hehe |
| 14:23.00 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4420 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.h: opkg: add header guards to libopkg/opkg.h |
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| 14:35.32 | alexxy | hi all! |
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| 14:36.18 | alexxy | will freerunner be avalieble in Russia? |
| 14:36.28 | alexxy | i'd like to have one |
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| 14:36.53 | ScaredyCat | it's not available anywhere at the moment... |
| 14:36.58 | ScaredyCat | soon we hope |
| 14:36.59 | Ganneff | unless russia decides to close the borders you should be able to just import one yourself. whenever its available. |
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| 14:50.52 | dbmoodb | where is me phone--- btw can someone pass on the message that openmoko the company should have a group buying shop thing--- to make it easier |
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| 15:00.40 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03werner * r4421 10/trunk/src/host/devirginator/mknor: |
| 15:00.40 | CIA-43 | openmoko: The changes below make it a bit easier to fit mknor into scripts and to |
| 15:00.40 | CIA-43 | openmoko: select alternative configurations. |
| 15:00.41 | CIA-43 | openmoko: mknor: added general option parsing |
| 15:00.41 | CIA-43 | openmoko: mknor: new option -s splash_image to change the splash image file |
| 15:00.44 | CIA-43 | openmoko: mknor: new option -D to add definitions for envedit |
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| 15:20.48 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03werner * r4422 10/trunk/src/host/devirginator/environment.in: |
| 15:20.48 | CIA-43 | openmoko: environment.in: if QUIET is defined, use "loglevel=4" instead of "quiet", to |
| 15:20.48 | CIA-43 | openmoko: save space on the boot parameter line |
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| 15:50.56 | zedstar_ | anyone happen to know how to use bitbake to get from cvs but select a particular directory to build from? |
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| 15:54.49 | Sup3rkiddo | zedstar_, build or checkout?...i guess changing SRC_URI will help? |
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| 15:56.23 | zedstar_ | sup3rkiddo: i can checkout the project entire project but the build needs to take place in a specific directory |
| 15:56.43 | Sup3rkiddo | ah ok... |
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| 16:02.59 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r765865f228c7 10/odevice/ (4 files): Documentation skeleton for odevice |
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| 16:04.08 | zeno__ | how big will the hd be on freerunner? |
| 16:05.04 | abraxa_ | HD? |
| 16:05.15 | abraxa_ | It has no hard disk, if that's what you mean :) |
| 16:05.26 | Blastur | 256 mb flash and expansion port for micro SD |
| 16:09.02 | SpeedEvil | Blastur: 256? |
| 16:09.15 | SpeedEvil | Blastur: I thought it was 128M flash +2M emergency |
| 16:09.38 | SpeedEvil | up to 8G? currently available in microSD. |
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| 16:11.59 | Blastur | the wiki says 256 MB NAND for freerunner |
| 16:13.51 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4423 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-appmanager2/ (13 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:13.51 | CIA-43 | openmoko: 2008-05-09 Thomas Wood <thomas@openedhand.com> |
| 16:13.51 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * configure.ac: |
| 16:13.51 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * src/Makefile.am: |
| 16:13.52 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * src/appmanager-data.c: (application_manager_data_init): |
| 16:13.55 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * src/appmanager-data.h: |
| 16:13.57 | CIA-43 | openmoko: * src/appmanager-window.c: (main): |
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| 16:29.39 | holycow | yey! |
| 16:29.44 | holycow | mass production starts today! |
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| 16:30.21 | mmontour | holycow: [citation needed] |
| 16:30.42 | holycow | just reading the page in the topic |
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| 16:36.18 | holycow | i dont' see anything about the moko being quad band |
| 16:36.34 | holycow | is it still tri band? |
| 16:36.48 | mmontour | Tri-band, but you can get either a European or North American model. |
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| 16:39.16 | holycow | *ooo* |
| 16:39.21 | holycow | cad files for the moko! |
| 16:39.22 | holycow | haha |
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| 16:54.40 | zash | holycow: most likley wont start today. more likley in the next week or two |
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| 18:03.20 | daMaestro | reads: The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. |
| 18:03.23 | daMaestro | w00t |
| 18:03.36 | daMaestro | hopefully this time direct.openmoko.org can handle the load |
| 18:03.40 | daMaestro | or at least let me order ;-) |
| 18:03.40 | daMaestro | lol |
| 18:03.59 | daMaestro | i'll be dragging my freerunner and the gta01 to fudcon/redhat summit :-D |
| 18:04.29 | daMaestro | is likely going to use his gta01 as an sms gateway to mod_python for http://droutes.org/ |
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| 18:11.25 | B_Rider | patea a todios |
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| 18:18.33 | B_Rider | think that everybody is a loser |
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| 18:29.36 | stefan_schmidt | XorA: Good to see the OM/OE sync happening more often. Does this work better now? |
| 18:32.04 | B_Rider | loooosers |
| 18:32.16 | spydon | right... |
| 18:32.48 | kinneh | there's a problem with the rss-feed for projects, they never say which project they refer to |
| 18:33.37 | kinneh | like http://projects.openmoko.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=449 in the rss the "project:" is excluded |
| 18:33.50 | kinneh | who's tuning the project site ? |
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| 18:34.40 | abraxa_ | kinneh: Might wanna file a bug on http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/ |
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| 18:40.27 | zedstar_ | anyone come across a bluetooth scanner/logger kinda project that logs to something like sqlite? |
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| 19:09.18 | dnh | hello |
| 19:10.01 | abraxa_ | Hello, dnh |
| 19:10.53 | dnh | i need some help with qemu on x86_64 |
| 19:11.05 | dnh | is there a bug there? |
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| 19:11.36 | balrog-kun | dnh: probably |
| 19:11.39 | balrog-kun | but it works fine for me |
| 19:11.46 | mwester | That's a rather vague question. All software has bugs. |
| 19:12.10 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * re627836e6dba 10/ousage/ (Makefile org.freesmartphone.Usage.xml.in): Documentation skeleton for ousage |
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| 19:13.13 | dnh | im using the mokomakefile and it just wont compile |
| 19:14.08 | dnh | it spits out an errormessage about x86_64:/home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c:369: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
| 19:14.08 | dnh | /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c: In function `op_goto_tb1': |
| 19:14.08 | dnh | /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c:374: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
| 19:14.08 | dnh | ../dyngen -o op.h op.o |
| 19:14.09 | dnh | dyngen: unsupported X86_64 relocation (9) |
| 19:14.31 | balrog-kun | marketting should change the name from ousage to sousage |
| 19:16.47 | dnh | so my question remanes, is this a known bug or shud i bugreport this? |
| 19:17.05 | balrog-kun | #define R_X86_64_GOTPCREL 9 /* 32 bit signed pc relative offset to GOT */ |
| 19:17.10 | dnh | what is ousage? |
| 19:17.18 | balrog-kun | i guess the version of gcc i use doesn't emit this reloc |
| 19:17.23 | balrog-kun | dnh: what gcc do you use? |
| 19:18.24 | woglinde | balrog-kun didnt report qemu if has nt found a compatible gcc? |
| 19:19.09 | balrog-kun | woglinde: it just checks the version number but that's not really much information about the compiler |
| 19:19.21 | balrog-kun | and the check may be turned off in MokoMakefile, i don't know |
| 19:19.48 | woglinde | I personal dont like MokoMakefile |
| 19:19.49 | dnh | i have gcc 3.4.6 & 4.1.2 |
| 19:19.57 | balrog-kun | i've never used it |
| 19:20.04 | woglinde | what says gcc --version? |
| 19:20.12 | balrog-kun | but basically an error like this is a form of reporting that the gcc is not compatible :) |
| 19:20.45 | dnh | dnh@plentycore ~/openmoko $ gcc --version |
| 19:20.45 | dnh | gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.0.2) |
| 19:20.45 | dnh | Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. |
| 19:20.46 | dnh | This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO |
| 19:20.46 | dnh | warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. |
| 19:21.13 | balrog-kun | i should update the qemu-neo1973 tree to current qemu svn, it should work independently of gcc version then |
| 19:21.47 | balrog-kun | but it would break i386 emulation (i don't think anybody uses the qemu-neo1973 tree for that though) |
| 19:22.04 | XorA | stefan_schmidt: its certainly easier to work with two branches than the same branch on different servers |
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| 19:22.47 | balrog-kun | dnh: can you paste a line before the one you pasted, one that starts with "gcc"? |
| 19:22.53 | balrog-kun | fromo MokoMakefile output |
| 19:23.31 | dnh | gcc-3.4.6 -Wall -O2 -g -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-reorder-blocks -fno-gcse -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -fno-crossjumping -fno-align-labels -fno-align-jumps -fno-align-functions -I. -I.. -I/home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm -I/home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973 -MMD -MP -DNEED_CPU_H -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -I/home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/h |
| 19:23.31 | dnh | ost/qemu-neo1973/fpu -DHAS_AUDIO -I/home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/gnokiigsm -I/home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/slirp -c -o op.o /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c |
| 19:23.31 | dnh | /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c: In function `op_goto_tb0': |
| 19:23.33 | dnh | /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c:369: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
| 19:23.38 | dnh | /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c: In function `op_goto_tb1': |
| 19:23.40 | dnh | /home/dnh/openmoko/openmoko/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/target-arm/op.c:374: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
| 19:23.43 | dnh | ../dyngen -o op.h op.o |
| 19:23.45 | dnh | dyngen: unsupported X86_64 relocation (9) |
| 19:23.55 | microlith | ~ $ |
| 19:23.56 | apt | $ is probably a dollar sign |
| 19:24.28 | cyrilRomain|bbl | dnh: please use http://rafb.net/paste/ next time |
| 19:24.40 | balrog-kun | that seems okay then |
| 19:24.49 | balrog-kun | it's using 3.4.6 |
| 19:24.59 | woglinde | balrog yes |
| 19:25.04 | balrog-kun | i use 3.3.6 on my x86_64, on gentoo also |
| 19:25.20 | woglinde | 3.3.6 or 3.4.6? |
| 19:25.28 | balrog-kun | 3.3.6 |
| 19:25.33 | balrog-kun | i know 3.4.6 is broken on i386 |
| 19:25.42 | XorA | stefan_schmidt: I guess this means your work reached OE, well done :-) |
| 19:25.48 | woglinde | so it differs |
| 19:26.05 | balrog-kun | supposedly Gentoo patches their version and even gcc developers deem the Gentoo version of 3.4.6 to be broken, but i also heard it only affects i386 |
| 19:26.27 | woglinde | seems the 64bit too |
| 19:27.40 | dnh | okay, so it will work on gcc-3.3.6 ? |
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| 19:28.20 | woglinde | dnh probably |
| 19:28.32 | balrog-kun | yes, emerge =gcc-3.3.6 should help, but it will take a while |
| 19:29.36 | dnh | okay, i can try that then |
| 19:30.13 | woglinde | for oe I think its okay to compile all stuff, but for desktop |
| 19:30.23 | woglinde | one reason I dont like gentoo |
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| 19:33.25 | PBeck | ahoi |
| 19:34.46 | dnh | hello |
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| 20:06.52 | ruskie | hmm I wish I could install openmoko onto the n95... |
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| 21:10.32 | ccfly | hello folks :) |
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| 21:12.48 | dnh | hello ccfly |
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| 21:23.21 | OJW | so when's the phones arriving? ;) we were told last october ;) |
| 21:24.15 | dnh | They told us that they where going to start produsing today |
| 21:24.41 | dnh | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates |
| 21:28.26 | OJW | cool. anyone filming them for youtube? |
| 21:29.13 | dnh | there are some neo 1973 films out there |
| 21:31.42 | balrog-kun | i'm afraid they're not arriving last october |
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| 21:32.23 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * rbb11275d7a88 10/ousaged/modules/generic.py: Refactor interface |
| 21:32.26 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * ra072ae0c7677 10/ (data/themes/zhone.edc src/zhone): Display resource status from DBus |
| 21:32.30 | CIA-43 | freesmartphone.org: 03jluebbe * r7399a5156e26 10/ousage/org.freesmartphone.Usage.xml.in: Update to changed ousaged |
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| 21:38.08 | stefan_schmidt | XorA: Well, I can commit to OE directly. Need to have more time to work with it again. |
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| 22:11.35 | stefan_schmidt | shoragan: ping |
| 22:12.21 | stefan_schmidt | shoragan: If you have aclocal $ACLOCAL_FLAGS -I m4 in the zhone autogen.sh you need to mkdir m4 before, or just kick out -I m4 |
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