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| 03:53.41 | brezel0r | hello :) |
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| 03:55.57 | doc|home | I'm watching the video, and they said the final product's going to be thinner? |
| 03:56.42 | doc|home | also |
| 03:56.44 | doc|home | wants :/ |
| 03:57.01 | xaid | doc|home: they were kidding :) |
| 03:57.07 | doc|home | shame that :) |
| 03:57.36 | xaid | yep heh |
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| 07:36.43 | Elessar_81 | Hello everyone |
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| 07:47.15 | Elessar_81 | has anyone experience in running openmoko on a treo 650 device? i'm finding only micheal sheldons page, but there is no howto |
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| 08:54.27 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:55.06 | vladimir_ | morning |
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| 09:03.41 | mbuf | will it be possible to buy the FreeRunner across the counter at LinuxTag 2008? |
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| 09:17.54 | ScaredyCat | wonders if the delay is because Computex 2008 is very soon |
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| 09:39.38 | israel | sup |
| 09:40.21 | israel | where is freerunner |
| 09:40.22 | israel | ? |
| 09:40.23 | israel | :) |
| 09:40.33 | edistar_ | israel: in china |
| 09:41.21 | edistar_ | mbuf: contact mickey|bbl about it, afaik he will be there and might be able to organize something |
| 09:41.50 | mbuf | edistar_, ok |
| 09:42.33 | israel | edistar_: at production line? |
| 09:42.33 | israel | :) |
| 09:42.55 | edistar_ | israel: I hope MP will start soon ;) |
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| 09:45.16 | mickeyl | heya |
| 09:46.01 | edistar_ | mickeyl: hi |
| 09:47.10 | mbuf | mickeyl, hi; are there any plans to sell FreeRunner models at LinuxTag 2008? |
| 09:48.49 | mickeyl | plans, yes |
| 09:48.57 | mickeyl | whether it'll be real depends on the actual MP date |
| 09:49.02 | mbuf | mickeyl, ok |
| 09:49.17 | mickeyl | for the records, the delay has nothing to do with trade shows or something |
| 09:49.38 | mickeyl | it's just that the pre-MP runs have shown some issues which had to be fixed |
| 09:53.19 | dcordes | mickeyl: further hardware revisions? |
| 09:54.34 | mickeyl | no |
| 09:55.25 | CVirus | delay ? |
| 09:55.37 | mickeyl | there's a whole lot more that can need fixing on a production line than just the actual hardware :) |
| 09:56.44 | edistar | mickeyl: so can you predict any date? |
| 09:56.46 | dcordes | I'm very curious in how far freerunner sales will impact the media |
| 09:58.09 | mickeyl | edistar: I'm not allowed to. i can only say still plan to sell devices @ LT |
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| 09:58.38 | edistar | mickeyl: okey :) |
| 09:58.53 | dcordes | breaking: android competitor on the horizon? lol |
| 09:59.08 | dcordes | in computerbild |
| 09:59.19 | edistar | dcordes: :D |
| 10:01.07 | edistar | mickeyl: the LT won't be that long.. looking forward! |
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| 10:05.48 | SpeedEvil | When is LT? |
| 10:06.01 | edistar | SpeedEvil: end of may |
| 10:14.01 | mbuf | SpeedEvil, May 28-31, 2008 |
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| 10:47.41 | masterdev | Free .com .net and .org domain in http://free.novafree.net |
| 10:48.31 | balrog-kun | what does that have to do with anything? |
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| 10:48.53 | masterdev | mickeyl |
| 10:48.53 | masterdev | :) |
| 10:48.55 | masterdev | Free .com .net and .org domain in http://free.novafree.net |
| 10:48.58 | masterdev | for you! |
| 10:49.22 | mickeyl | thanks for the offer, but we have already plenty of free domains |
| 10:51.11 | SpeedEvil | Free gift with every freerunner! |
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| 12:09.22 | broedje | there are two tuts for dual booting; on goxboxlive and in openezx: which one is more recent? |
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| 12:43.45 | bahadir_ | Hi, when is GTA02 going to be available for sale? |
| 12:45.52 | patoh | when its ready |
| 12:45.54 | SpeedEvil | It's been said recently by someone who should know that tehy hope to have it on sale by may 28th - at the LinuxTag festival. |
| 12:48.33 | bahadir_ | ok thanks for letting me know. I guess sales won't be through the website. |
| 12:49.10 | SpeedEvil | Yes, they will |
| 12:49.18 | SpeedEvil | but nothing has eben said about that |
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| 15:52.26 | ScaredyCat | gets back up off the floor |
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| 15:53.08 | ScaredyCat | has 2 DP-L10's |
| 15:53.27 | summatusmentis | what are DP-L10's? |
| 15:53.42 | ScaredyCat | gsm + sip phones |
| 15:53.54 | summatusmentis | oh, cool |
| 15:54.24 | ScaredyCat | tiny though |
| 15:54.29 | balrog-kun | But Will They Blend? |
| 15:54.34 | ScaredyCat | I think my fingers are too big |
| 15:54.52 | ScaredyCat | I suspect they would very easily balrog-kun |
| 15:55.10 | balrog-kun | ScaredyCat: let's find out! |
| 15:55.27 | ScaredyCat | ok, let me know when you buy one to blend then.. |
| 15:55.35 | balrog-kun | :( |
| 15:55.45 | summatusmentis | wonders about GSM data where he lives |
| 15:56.26 | ScaredyCat | if it exists? |
| 15:57.01 | summatusmentis | if it's cheap enough for a college student :) |
| 15:58.23 | summatusmentis | oh no! class |
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| 16:11.47 | minivan | mmm why are people in the kernel ml talking about GTA04? Is it because GTA03 design is already decided or the GTA series will follow a power of 2 number scheme? :) |
| 16:12.12 | Vegar | I think they skipped GTA03 |
| 16:12.19 | cb22 | minivan: according to raster, they're just skipping it |
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| 16:33.08 | kdean06 | GTA03 already exists... |
| 16:33.14 | kdean06 | But it's sort of a joke. |
| 16:33.35 | Qwell | have to keep up with Rockstar |
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| 16:48.12 | israel | :) |
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| 16:52.43 | CM | blinks |
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| 16:56.02 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1377 has been created by kevin(AT)foreverdean.info |
| 16:56.03 | cdbot2 | * * Plugging in Headset doesn't silence external speakers |
| 16:56.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1377 |
| 16:56.32 | Qwell | ^ my laptop did that through the entire ubuntu gutsy release cycle.. |
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| 16:57.56 | markit | is there a easy way, maybe through qemu, to play with openmoko software and user interface? |
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| 16:58.42 | kdean06 | Yes. |
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| 16:59.54 | kdean06 | markit, There's a wiki entry for "Openmoko on Qemu". RElated is MokoMakefile which is a script to build what you need. |
| 17:00.01 | kdean06 | I don't have links right now, too busy. :P |
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| 17:00.16 | markit | kdean06: ok, thanks a lot :)) |
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| 17:10.02 | mickeyl | Robot101: ping? |
| 17:10.16 | Robot101 | mickeyl: pong |
| 17:10.25 | mickeyl | hey. python question |
| 17:10.28 | mickeyl | +dbus of course |
| 17:10.39 | Robot101 | sure, go ahead |
| 17:11.18 | mickeyl | how can i overcome the limitation of method name == dbus method name? say, i have two interfaces which i want to serve from one object, but the two interfaces both have a GetStatus method. How would I do that w/ python? |
| 17:12.01 | Robot101 | >:O |
| 17:12.04 | gambler | is it possible the freerunner could be reprogrammed to TX/RX @ eg...125-148 Khz for RFID purposes? |
| 17:12.12 | Robot101 | that's not something you should do, generally :p |
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| 17:12.29 | mickeyl | well |
| 17:12.34 | mickeyl | but it's one object |
| 17:12.37 | Robot101 | some bindings get interfaces kinda wrong, meaning they fall back on just method name matching |
| 17:12.40 | mickeyl | which has multiple capabilities |
| 17:12.58 | mickeyl | so multiple interfaces need to be implemented |
| 17:13.00 | Robot101 | GetFooStatus, GetBarStatus would be less onerous |
| 17:13.08 | mickeyl | mmhr |
| 17:13.10 | mickeyl | but that's nasty |
| 17:13.18 | mickeyl | it's unnecessary redundancy |
| 17:13.33 | Kero | just curious, which two interfaces of what object? |
| 17:13.41 | Robot101 | a bit, yes. properties might also help, but iirc they're kinda unimplemented in dbus-python. |
| 17:14.06 | Robot101 | do they have the same prototype, or different? |
| 17:14.17 | Robot101 | if they have the same prototype, there's nothing you can do IIRC |
| 17:14.18 | mickeyl | Kero: for instances. org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network and org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM could both have a GetStatus() -> a{sv} |
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| 17:15.04 | Robot101 | if they've got different prototypes, then you can implement one on a subclass, and one on a superclass, and the MRO walker will find the one with the right signature, but that's very fragile indeed |
| 17:15.18 | mickeyl | *nod* not good either |
| 17:15.37 | mickeyl | guess I need a better decorator for that task |
| 17:15.48 | Robot101 | I think you're out of luck otherwise, but it would be a very simple patch to add a name argument to the decorator |
| 17:16.00 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 17:16.09 | mickeyl | i think i may look into that |
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| 17:16.22 | mickeyl | i don't want to compromise on the API just because bindings suck |
| 17:16.57 | Robot101 | welcome to my world. :) |
| 17:17.01 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 17:17.14 | summatusmentis | hello all |
| 17:17.17 | Robot101 | as a consequence collabora became the maintainers of dbus-python, and spent a long time hacking on dbus-glib too |
| 17:17.25 | Robot101 | but there's a limit to how much you can keep doing that |
| 17:17.37 | Robot101 | and some times when you need to just get on with your work |
| 17:18.15 | Robot101 | if you wanted to commission any dbus performance/enhancement/binding works, we'd be happy to provide quotes |
| 17:18.33 | `pwgen` | hellp |
| 17:18.37 | `pwgen` | hello |
| 17:19.11 | mickeyl | well, i'm afraid i will not get a budget for these kind of things from om |
| 17:19.23 | mickeyl | they won't understand :) |
| 17:19.30 | mickeyl | "just make it work" ;) |
| 17:19.48 | Robot101 | "this will make it work faster/better" |
| 17:19.59 | mickeyl | ya. once all that stuff works we can profile and talk about optimizations |
| 17:20.15 | mickeyl | but that's a couple of months away. i just started a couple of months with really doing middleware |
| 17:20.19 | mickeyl | +ago |
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| 17:20.26 | Robot101 | hmm, the decorator doesn't store the name at all |
| 17:20.27 | `pwgen` | mickeyl: ich have complete my dbus ringer but there may be a performance lag playing ringtones via pulseaudi/gstreamer ..(:-(( |
| 17:21.01 | mickeyl | `pwgen`: i'm not surprised by that, however i would be very surprised if it was a major problem |
| 17:21.09 | mickeyl | setting up a gstreamer pipeline may cost us 2 seconds |
| 17:21.13 | mickeyl | but that should be it |
| 17:21.22 | mickeyl | if it's longer, then something is broken |
| 17:21.40 | israel | hm, question, shoud i try open moko on fsc n560? |
| 17:22.04 | mickeyl | Robot101: bummer, they do it on-the-fly with getattr magic? |
| 17:22.38 | Robot101 | mickeyl: well, it's not too hard to move that |
| 17:23.18 | Robot101 | oh right, of course |
| 17:23.27 | Robot101 | the methods are already in the class dict with their python method name |
| 17:23.45 | Dominus | israel: does that run Linux at all, though? |
| 17:23.55 | Dominus | Also, it's not a phone, is it? |
| 17:24.03 | Robot101 | you'd need to add a different dbus method name dict to the class and patch the MRO walker to use that instead |
| 17:24.15 | Robot101 | ponders |
| 17:25.03 | mickeyl | hmm wait |
| 17:25.13 | mickeyl | is this the generic python decorator mro walker? |
| 17:25.18 | mickeyl | or a special py-dbus one? |
| 17:25.29 | Robot101 | no, service.py has one which considers interface names |
| 17:25.38 | mickeyl | ah |
| 17:25.44 | mickeyl | i would not want to fiddle with the generic MRO ;) |
| 17:25.48 | Robot101 | :) |
| 17:26.34 | Robot101 | heh, I remember some of the fun hacks I came up with here :) |
| 17:26.47 | Robot101 | you didn't used to have to provide signatures at all |
| 17:26.58 | Robot101 | I added that, and an iteratable signature class |
| 17:27.39 | Robot101 | and as a fallback, an iteratable VariantSignature class that just returns an infinite number of v's, so when you zip() it with argument names, they're all marked as variants |
| 17:27.42 | Robot101 | hehe |
| 17:28.53 | mickeyl | nice |
| 17:29.18 | mickeyl | speaking about that |
| 17:29.26 | mickeyl | i found a bug in the dbus-bindings today |
| 17:29.44 | mickeyl | obviously it does not check whether a python int really fits in a dbus int32 |
| 17:29.55 | mickeyl | neither does it try to make it fit into an int64 as fallback |
| 17:29.58 | mickeyl | it just crashes :D |
| 17:30.19 | Robot101 | heh |
| 17:30.35 | mickeyl | i'll add a bug into the bugtracker 'bout that |
| 17:32.47 | `pwgen` | what ist the right way to suspend the neo1973: apm -s ? |
| 17:33.03 | mickeyl | if you want to do it on the console |
| 17:33.09 | mickeyl | echo "mem" >/sys/power/state |
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| 17:33.34 | mickeyl | however, eventually, you should really use the dbus API for that |
| 17:33.51 | mickeyl | since that will do some housekeeping tasks before you can sanely fall asleep |
| 17:34.05 | `pwgen` | the problem is, that i can not resume .. mostly LSD colours in the frame buffer , and the a reboot |
| 17:34.21 | mickeyl | well, that's a kernel problem independent of what you use to suspend |
| 17:34.25 | mickeyl | i think mwester has fixed it by now? |
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| 17:36.21 | `pwgen` | i use a git kernel ( 5 days old ) the first cycle works( mostly) , the second resume cycle crash .. |
| 17:37.56 | tharvey | anyone know what happened to sameo? wanted to chat with him about the ath6k driver - haven't seen him in a week? |
| 17:39.06 | mickeyl | probably very busy with projects |
| 17:39.26 | mickeyl | his contract on the ath6k is more or less done |
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| 17:39.35 | mickeyl | but i'm sure he'll fix bugs and apply patches |
| 17:39.55 | tharvey | so the driver is stable? |
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| 17:40.59 | tharvey | the current driver being used for GTA02 is http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/sameo/patches/ar6k-atheros-2.0/ correct? (There were a couple others 1 dir down from that) |
| 17:43.19 | mickeyl | well, apart from #1250 and a bunch of minor bugs it should be stable, yeah |
| 17:43.28 | mickeyl | the latest code is in the git.openmoko.org |
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| 17:50.42 | israel | Dominus: its pda |
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| 18:00.15 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickeyl * r290 10/trunk/software/py-ophoned/ (6 files in 2 dirs): py-ophoned: add option to use preferred modem |
| 18:00.58 | `pwgen` | py-ophoned , is that the successor for the pyneod ? |
| 18:01.47 | mickeyl | ya. pyneod is emdete's quick'n'dirty solution all-in-one solution :) |
| 18:01.52 | summatusmentis | I think the plan is an ophoned, an odeviced, and one other one |
| 18:01.55 | mickeyl | py-ophoned is the telephony middleware |
| 18:02.09 | mickeyl | yeah, what summatusmentis says |
| 18:02.12 | summatusmentis | oh, mickeyl is around :) ignore me |
| 18:02.38 | `pwgen` | pyneod is the only solution that works ..( for me ) |
| 18:02.53 | summatusmentis | what do you mean? |
| 18:03.38 | `pwgen` | the gsmd allway crashes .. the pyneod works for my littel phone . the only problem that i have is a working sleep/resume process |
| 18:03.53 | mickeyl | yeah, gsmd is unfortunately very problematic |
| 18:04.03 | mickeyl | but (py-)ophoned will be more stable |
| 18:04.09 | mickeyl | + having a sane dbus interface |
| 18:04.09 | `pwgen` | ( by the way with pyneod i could make calls / recieve calls without rebooting the gui |
| 18:04.27 | summatusmentis | well, I think the plan is dbus-enabled middleware, with a sort of modular backend |
| 18:04.44 | tharvey | mickeyl, I don't see the ath5k driver in git.openmoko.org's kernel.git - where would I find it there? |
| 18:04.55 | `pwgen` | when i can make clean sleep/resume cycles i can say the moko works .... |
| 18:05.40 | mickeyl | tharvey: hmm |
| 18:05.40 | mickeyl | you really want me to dig the path out for you? |
| 18:05.47 | summatusmentis | `pwgen`: there's a GSoC project that'll hopefully make that possible |
| 18:05.56 | mickeyl | drivers/wireless or something |
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| 18:06.04 | mickeyl | or where network drivers are in the kernel |
| 18:06.22 | tharvey | mickeyl, well... the svn dir that I found is a collection of patches - http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/sameo/patches |
| 18:06.27 | `pwgen` | GS0C project ? where ... and what does that mean .. ? |
| 18:06.34 | tharvey | doesn't look like 'those' patches are applied to the kernel in the git though |
| 18:06.56 | summatusmentis | `pwgen`: Google Summer of Code. Sup3rkiddo is working on odeviced |
| 18:07.09 | tharvey | mickeyl, well... this is SDIO based, so I expected to see drivers/sdio which was sameo's patch (he pulled in from the sdio-linux project) |
| 18:07.51 | tharvey | so are you saying that http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=summary is supposed to be a 'patched kernel' or is there a patchset somewhere |
| 18:08.26 | tharvey | I'm not really familiar with how openmoko is version controlled - I see a git and svn... a little confused |
| 18:08.26 | `pwgen` | ahh Google Summer of Code . not Gnu System on Chip or shomething .... ahh |
| 18:08.50 | summatusmentis | nope, not system on a chip, sorry. I forget that some people are hardware people |
| 18:09.15 | `pwgen` | *G* |
| 18:09.29 | mickeyl | tharvey: how 'bout http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=tree;f=drivers/sdio/function/wlan;h=0b816ad7be1aeebfa2b240cbc09ad5c0f08bc204;hb=stable ? |
| 18:10.58 | `pwgen` | is there a schematic diagramm ( electronic) for the moko or only the description at the wiki ? |
| 18:11.05 | tharvey | mickeyl, ya thats it - guess I don't quite understand how the git web interface works - i couldn't get there where I was going |
| 18:11.11 | mickeyl | heh |
| 18:11.16 | mickeyl | you first select the branch |
| 18:11.25 | mickeyl | then click on "tree" and browse |
| 18:11.31 | mickeyl | the a6k is not yet in Linus tree |
| 18:12.19 | tharvey | I was selecting tree under kernel.git - http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=tree what is that supposed to represent? |
| 18:12.25 | tharvey | (sorry I'm a git heh) |
| 18:12.26 | mickeyl | upstream |
| 18:12.33 | mickeyl | i guess |
| 18:12.37 | mickeyl | i'm a git illiterate as well |
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| 18:14.49 | tharvey | hmmm... still very confused - trying to disect your URL above and figure out what it actually means (as http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=tree takes me somewhere else with no drivers/sdio tree) |
| 18:15.03 | tharvey | branch is what is shown as 'project'? |
| 18:15.28 | geocode | git rocks. Is that what you guys are using! Sweet. |
| 18:15.34 | geocode | Can't wait to get involved! |
| 18:16.11 | tharvey | oh so looking at http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=summary - the 'heads' are heads of various branches? |
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| 18:19.22 | mickeyl | tharvey: bingo |
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| 18:22.24 | tharvey | so the fact that the openmoko kernel.git project is tracking kernel.org means your on 2.6.25 currently right? |
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| 18:44.21 | vladimir_ | hallo huys |
| 18:44.29 | vladimir_ | guys :P |
| 18:45.10 | vladimir_ | i had the following err during compiling the openmoko-devel-image |
| 18:45.11 | vladimir_ | | /bin/sh ../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool --tag=CC --mode=link arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DXFILESEARCHPATHDEFAULT=\"/etc/X11/%L/%T/%N%C%S:/etc/X11/%l/%T/%N%C%S:/etc/X11/%T/%N%C%S:/etc/X11/%L/%T/%N%S:/etc/X11/%l/%T/%N%S:/etc/X11/%T/%N%S:/usr/share/X11/%L/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/share/X11/%l/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/share/X11/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/share/X11/%L/%T/%N%S:/usr/share/X11/%l/%T/%N%S:/usr/share/X11/%T/%N%S:/usr/lib/X11/%L/%T/%N%C |
| 18:45.11 | vladimir_ | %S:/usr/lib/X11/%l/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/lib/X11/%T/%N%C%S:/usr/lib/X11/%L/%T/%N%S:/usr/lib/X11/%l/%T/%N%S:/usr/lib/X11/%T/%N%S\" -DERRORDB=\"/usr/lib/X11/XtErrorDB\" -DMALLOC_0_RETURNS_NULL -DXTMALLOC_BC -isystem/home/vmihaylov/devel/moko/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/include -fexpensive-optimizations -frename-registers -fomit-frame-pointer -Os -L/home/vmihaylov/devel/moko/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -Wl,-rpath-lin |
| 18:45.13 | vladimir_ | k,/home/vmihaylov/devel/moko/build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -Wl,-O1 -o libXt.la -rpath /usr/lib -version-number 6:0:0 -no-undefined ActionHook.lo Alloc.lo ArgList.lo Callback.lo ClickTime.lo Composite.lo Constraint.lo Convert.lo Converters.lo Core.lo Create.lo Destroy.lo Display.lo Error.lo Event.lo EventUtil.lo Functions.lo GCManager.lo Geometry.lo GetActKey.lo GetResList.lo GetValues.lo HookObj.lo Hooks.lo Initialize.lo Intrinsic |
| 18:45.20 | vladimir_ | .lo Keyboard.lo Manage.lo NextEvent.lo Object.lo PassivGrab.lo Pointer.lo Popup.lo PopupCB.lo RectObj.lo ResConfig.lo Resources.lo Selection.lo SetSens.lo SetValues.lo SetWMCW.lo Shell.lo TMaction.lo TMgrab.lo TMkey.lo TMparse.lo TMprint.lo TMstate.lo Threads.lo VarCreate.lo VarGet.lo Varargs.lo Vendor.lo sharedlib.lo StringDefs.lo -lSM -lICE -lX11 |
| 18:45.24 | vladimir_ | | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: link: `Varargs.lo' is not a valid libtool object |
| 18:45.25 | ewon | wtf |
| 18:45.26 | vladimir_ | | make[4]: *** [libXt.la] Error 1 |
| 18:45.28 | vladimir_ | | make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/vmihaylov/devel/moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/libxt-1_1.0.5-r1/libXt-1.0.5/src' |
| 18:45.30 | vladimir_ | could anyone point me in the problem |
| 18:45.37 | ewon | jesus dude, use a pastebin |
| 18:45.41 | tharvey | heh |
| 18:45.45 | vladimir_ | sorry :) |
| 18:45.59 | vladimir_ | i didn't reealize that it would be so large :P |
| 18:47.32 | SpeedEvil | Needs upgraded EMI protection. |
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| 18:54.45 | `pwgen` | juju 4 sleep/resume cycles without reboot juhu |
| 18:55.02 | `pwgen` | now i have a phone .... |
| 18:58.37 | israel | gta01? |
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| 19:03.00 | borg_ | `pwgen`: with gta01? |
| 19:06.29 | `pwgen` | yes |
| 19:07.03 | borg_ | cool |
| 19:07.07 | `pwgen` | but after kernel update i have probe with gst ... need to fix something . |
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| 19:54.46 | matthew__ | :) |
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| 19:57.55 | J-23 | hi |
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| 20:31.25 | alphaone | emdete: ping |
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| 20:31.53 | alphaone | emdete: What was that AGPS protocol thing that you talked about before? |
| 20:32.10 | SpeedEvil | alp: you mean in general? |
| 20:32.16 | SpeedEvil | alp: or specific to teh GTA02 |
| 20:32.54 | SpeedEvil | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS |
| 20:33.37 | emdete | alphaone: SUPL |
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| 20:40.37 | alphaone | emdete: thanks |
| 20:40.48 | alphaone | SpeedEvil: No, I meant in general. |
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| 21:10.56 | edistar | SpeedEvil: you are from england, right? what company offers the cheapest sim-only contracts in respect to gprs? |
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| 21:11.58 | SpeedEvil | No, scotland. |
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| 21:12.08 | SpeedEvil | However t-mobile is pretty good. |
| 21:12.12 | edistar | SpeedEvil: sry.. I apologize ;) |
| 21:12.16 | edistar | thx |
| 21:12.18 | SpeedEvil | I think their PAYG tarrif is about best. |
| 21:12.41 | SpeedEvil | You pay up to 1 pound a day for data, or .7p/k below that |
| 21:12.51 | SpeedEvil | you can buy a 'web pack' for 5 days for 2.50 |
| 21:13.25 | edistar | ok |
| 21:13.38 | SpeedEvil | So that's 15 quid a month for 'unlimited' data - if you use it everyday |
| 21:13.45 | edistar | yeah |
| 21:13.51 | SpeedEvil | if you just use it occasional days, it's cheaper |
| 21:14.04 | edistar | thx for the info |
| 21:19.54 | edistar | SpeedEvil: do you happen to know if sms cost double to foreign contries? |
| 21:20.13 | edistar | cause they do from .nl, but they don't from .de |
| 21:20.21 | edistar | so I wonder about .uk |
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| 21:21.59 | SpeedEvil | I think it's more expensive. |
| 21:22.01 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure. |
| 21:22.04 | edistar | ok |
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| 21:32.37 | Robot101 | Weiss: aha :) |
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| 22:31.40 | Weiss | Robot101: :D |
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