| 00:27.46 | zash | and the real path? |
| 00:31.42 | SpeedEvil | Exactly what that was is a matter of argument. |
| 00:31.56 | SpeedEvil | However - it was one path driven and then driven back along in the car |
| 00:32.14 | SpeedEvil | It was _not_ wobbling all over the place like the pink track does. |
| 00:37.34 | balrog-kun | SpeedEvil: i don't have much to compare to but i find the gta01 gps rather exact |
| 00:37.56 | balrog-kun | SpeedEvil: it makes horrible errors sometimes, but the n810 gps and the gta02 gps can do much worse :) |
| 00:38.14 | SpeedEvil | It's fine - statically. |
| 00:38.41 | SpeedEvil | Dynamically - it can get 40m+ out. |
| 00:39.14 | zash | well, the gps system isnt perfect |
| 00:39.27 | balrog-kun | SpeedEvil: yup, quite annoying especially for openstreetmapping |
| 00:39.44 | SpeedEvil | Of three GPSs I have running, two are +-2m or so most of the time - as is the neo on easy bits |
| 00:39.56 | SpeedEvil | Then it gets confused. |
| 00:39.58 | balrog-kun | SpeedEvil: i use it on bike sometimes and it seems the gps is tuned for going in a car, i.e. making much slower turns and moving less dynamically with more inertia |
| 00:40.14 | SpeedEvil | Naah. It sucks for car too :) |
| 00:40.30 | SpeedEvil | I guess they turned on the supertanker flag. |
| 00:40.51 | balrog-kun | on the gta02 i got about 600m out today though, in open air |
| 00:41.12 | zash | sattelites broadcast interval is about 30s, i read at wp |
| 00:41.18 | balrog-kun | the n810 does similar nonsense sometimes |
| 00:41.21 | SpeedEvil | zash: it's not that simple. |
| 00:42.07 | SpeedEvil | zash: You get some positional information every 1ns or so, every 1ms, every 20ms, every 30s, every 720s |
| 00:42.27 | SpeedEvil | When tracking, the 30s is irrelevant. |
| 00:42.48 | SpeedEvil | wehn the GPS is on and tracking the satellites that is. |
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| 00:54.53 | broedj1 | i cannot ssh with 202... or whatever to the moto |
| 00:55.19 | SpeedEvil | you've |
| 00:55.24 | broedj1 | hm must read the bootusb again |
| 00:55.36 | SpeedEvil | loaded the appropruate module, and ifconfiged the usb interface, and added a route? |
| 00:55.44 | SpeedEvil | ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 |
| 00:55.51 | broedj1 | k sory |
| 00:55.54 | SpeedEvil | route add 192.168.0.202 usb0 |
| 00:56.51 | broedj1 | well... module.. with the phone? at least the "gpe" image x11 does not seem to have a keyboard or such working |
| 00:56.55 | broedj1 | thnx |
| 00:57.09 | SpeedEvil | no - on the host |
| 00:57.42 | SpeedEvil | cdc_ether |
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| 00:59.04 | broedj1 | i hope this full debian here has every module ever made |
| 01:00.12 | broedj1 | hm....for usb? ehm, of course i havent configured ifconfig networking yet.... but what modules do you mean, well thanks |
| 01:00.36 | SpeedEvil | the cdc_ether module is a USB ethernet driver. |
| 01:00.40 | SpeedEvil | the Neo implements this |
| 01:00.47 | SpeedEvil | and pretends to be an ethernet device |
| 01:01.10 | broedj1 | yes |
| 01:02.30 | broedj1 | mXP |
| 01:03.25 | broedj1 | oops |
| 01:03.34 | broedj1 | wrong input |
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| 02:51.32 | rtm | Is rsync the best (or only!) way to "hotsync" data from a neo1973, or is there some tool available that just backs up Calendar, Contacts, etc? |
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| 04:16.18 | rtm | Is it possible for an application to be alerted when it has been placed in the background. By that I mean that some other application is controlling the display. I'd like my Ap. to stop refreshing its graphic output when that output is not visible to the user. |
| 04:18.16 | raster | check your visibilitynotify events |
| 04:18.18 | raster | :) |
| 04:18.34 | raster | u'll get events when u are partly visible, fully and not visible at all |
| 04:19.42 | rtm | raster: Thanks! |
| 04:20.01 | raster | well thats on the x11 level |
| 04:20.06 | raster | not sure what toolkit u are using |
| 04:20.14 | raster | but most toolkits should expose this in one way or another |
| 04:20.25 | rtm | I'm just using GTK and X11... |
| 04:20.25 | raster | might be called something different - but likely similar |
| 04:20.28 | raster | just hunt it down |
| 04:20.35 | raster | not sure what gtk maps that too |
| 04:21.02 | raster | GdkEventVisibility |
| 04:21.08 | raster | GDK_VISIBILITY_NOTIFY |
| 04:21.17 | rtm | Cool - thanks again. |
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| 05:51.22 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r235 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added function definitions to pyfreesmartphone.pyx and some libfreesmartphone headers. |
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| 08:30.46 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: 03emdete * r237 10/trunk/software/pyneod/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:30.46 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: fixes for gta01 |
| 08:30.46 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: incoming call signaling fixed |
| 08:30.46 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: incoming sms signaling fixed |
| 08:31.29 | Mek | teprrr: ping |
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| 08:38.16 | gregorovius | does a cellphone that can play ogg vorbis / flac exist? |
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| 08:51.11 | thos | cworth, yes, just testing arc performance |
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| 09:13.31 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: 03emdete * r238 10/trunk/software/pyneod/pygsm/ (ficmodem.py genericmodem.py): due to missing docs on AT+CPI just issue a AT+CPAS |
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| 10:38.33 | SpeedEvil | how can I tell my phone number from the GUI? |
| 10:42.59 | raster | god a dead chicken and a serrated knife? |
| 10:43.01 | raster | got |
| 10:43.02 | raster | i mean |
| 10:43.39 | SpeedEvil | As it happens, yes. Parts of anyway. |
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| 10:49.06 | SpeedEvil | 07943894922 |
| 10:49.10 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 10:49.38 | thos | SpeedEvil, i think you can get the subscribed number from the phonekit dbus interface |
| 10:50.22 | SpeedEvil | 'from the gui' |
| 10:50.26 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 10:50.30 | raster | SpeedEvil: well. take your neo. put it on the table. slit the chicken's through and cover the neo with blood. |
| 10:50.34 | SpeedEvil | Anyway - I did it the high-tech way. |
| 10:50.35 | raster | make sure its nicely soaked |
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| 10:50.36 | raster | no dry bits |
| 10:50.44 | SpeedEvil | phone my landline |
| 10:50.45 | raster | ... |
| 10:50.47 | raster | awwwww |
| 10:50.56 | raster | and i was just beginning to have fun |
| 10:51.14 | SpeedEvil | Anyway - I only have on average one chicken. |
| 10:51.21 | SpeedEvil | It's really 12 chicken legs. |
| 10:52.20 | spyre | imho you get better results with peanut butter and a broom, but chicken might be faster.. |
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| 10:53.27 | raster | thats not enough chicken |
| 10:55.07 | SpeedEvil | conjours the chicken into a centipede-like monster, hands it a can of blue paint, an airline ticket, and sets it to paint raster completely blue. |
| 11:00.18 | raster | hmmn |
| 11:00.21 | raster | not sure i like blue |
| 11:01.16 | SpeedEvil | mails it a can of yellow, and has it do a gradient fill. |
| 11:05.13 | SpeedEvil | Radio 4 now |
| 11:05.17 | SpeedEvil | on fake mobile phones |
| 11:05.27 | SpeedEvil | Fake nokias |
| 11:05.32 | SpeedEvil | n95 |
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| 11:07.50 | Sup3rkiddo | Noklas |
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| 11:10.24 | SpeedEvil | Apparantely was visually identical |
| 11:10.30 | SpeedEvil | (without turning on) |
| 11:10.48 | Sup3rkiddo | they are damn cheap here |
| 11:11.17 | SpeedEvil | IIRC the number quoted was 150 quid vs 400 |
| 11:11.20 | Sup3rkiddo | usually fun as well...my friends have Apol lphone |
| 11:11.29 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 11:11.54 | Sup3rkiddo | they have this powerful speakers which can be used to freak out people |
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| 11:35.37 | caratorn | Does anyone know if it is possible to emulate Expose Xevents in the qemu emulator? |
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| 12:23.49 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r239 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (14 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:23.49 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: Fix SIM tests |
| 12:23.49 | CIA-42 | freesmartphone.org: Move commands to relevant files |
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| 13:04.39 | flexd | senses a phone is near! |
| 13:05.50 | tc | All this talk on the mailing list about GTA02v5 has confused me. If I order the day the phones are released will I get a v6? If I get a v5 will the power consumption on the LEDs be a bit more than the v6? |
| 13:06.03 | SpeedEvil | Only when on. |
| 13:06.10 | SpeedEvil | (the LEDs) |
| 13:06.33 | SpeedEvil | I am unsure - the posted power consumption numbers make no sense. |
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| 13:06.50 | tc | so v5's will ship? |
| 13:07.03 | SpeedEvil | That's been stated on the MLs. |
| 13:07.37 | mjr | based on community list, apparently the v5's that will be sold have the led issue optimized, there was some other small difference to v6... |
| 13:08.45 | mjr | " |
| 13:08.45 | mjr | This confusion comes from time latency of series of events, but no |
| 13:08.47 | mjr | matter A5 or A6 should all apply the LED transistor change." |
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| 13:11.50 | SpeedEvil | AH |
| 13:12.00 | flexd | I think the issue was only in the test versions, it was fixed before mass production. But the changes in A6 is another issue (some other fix) |
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| 13:12.45 | tc | It's still a bit ambiguous to me |
| 13:12.48 | SpeedEvil | One way of reading the 'A5 will ship' is 'we've built 4000' |
| 13:12.57 | mjr | SpeedEvil, :] |
| 13:13.29 | SpeedEvil | Actually - on reflection - they've probably ordered 5000 PCBs |
| 13:13.32 | mjr | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware#GTA02_A5_to_A6_changes |
| 13:13.57 | mjr | there's a note there on a couple of differences that they apply also to mass-prod A5 |
| 13:14.00 | SpeedEvil | Or 1000, or a largish number. So there would be a not utterly trivial expense in scrappign them. |
| 13:14.21 | SpeedEvil | Even if the PCBs have not had stuff put on them. |
| 13:17.18 | tc | This is a small problem and it looks like it's a non-issue now anyway - but it would be nice to have further clarification. Hopefully Steve will sum everything up today |
| 13:17.52 | SpeedEvil | As an example - a 6 layer ,1mm spacing 80*50m board costs $2.82 in 1000s |
| 13:18.10 | SpeedEvil | (pcbcart.com) |
| 13:18.23 | SpeedEvil | mm |
| 13:18.40 | tc | but have they had components soldered on them yet? |
| 13:18.52 | SpeedEvil | This is sheerly speculation. |
| 13:19.02 | SpeedEvil | shearly? |
| 13:19.06 | SpeedEvil | is unsure. |
| 13:19.37 | SpeedEvil | isn't very good on entemology. |
| 13:20.50 | SpeedEvil | I'm basically over-analysing from too little data. |
| 13:21.04 | tc | SpeedEvil: I'm 99% sure you're right, but everything seems to be based on hear'say |
| 13:23.11 | tc | If someone from openmoko said "Yes, we're going to ship x many v5's but the power consumption will not any different from the v6" that would put everything to bed. |
| 13:23.41 | SpeedEvil | Or 'we're shipping v5, and it's $10 cheaper' |
| 13:24.35 | tc | yeah.. |
| 13:29.09 | broedje | wyrm , is there an mtd a780 alternate inside your ftp or elsewhere? i looked on goxbox..but |
| 13:29.27 | broedje | the zImage |
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| 13:30.05 | broedje | cannot rock through the backup in the first quarter of the dualboot in openezx |
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| 13:33.23 | summatusmentis | hi all |
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| 13:43.09 | cworth | thos: Seriously?! |
| 13:43.26 | cworth | thos: If so, you'll be the first new user of X arcs in at least a decade I think. |
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| 14:06.36 | Mek | anyone know what could be wrong when while building openmoko-devel-image the mkfs.jffs2 call exits with a SIGABRT? |
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| 14:08.45 | thos | cworth, well |
| 14:08.55 | thos | cworth, I was comparing performance |
| 14:09.26 | thos | cworth, because I really don't want to use X arcs, but I wanted to check that cairo arc was not too slow on the device |
| 14:09.27 | cworth | thos: Sure. But performance on things that nobdoy uses surely cannot be interesting. |
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| 14:10.04 | thos | cworth, I was using them |
| 14:10.21 | cworth | thos: Then I'm impressed! |
| 14:10.28 | cworth | :-) |
| 14:10.29 | thos | cworth, because cairo wasn't available when we were using gtk 2.6 for a start |
| 14:10.45 | thos | cworth, well, i was using gdk_draw_arc obviously |
| 14:11.05 | cworth | thos: Most people in that timeframe were using things like libart and gnomecanvas, (creating graphics client-side and then pushing the resulting images to the X server). |
| 14:11.36 | thos | cworth, right, but neither of those are available |
| 14:11.50 | thos | cworth, and you certainly would be unlikely to use them in a gtk-engine |
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| 14:12.20 | cworth | thos: So, anyway. How has your performance comparison played out? |
| 14:13.29 | thos | cworth, after setting the tollerance to 1 and turning AA off, cairo arcs where about 25% slower than X |
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| 14:16.30 | thos | cworth, 1.52 vs 1.79 sec to draw 300 circles |
| 14:17.25 | thos | cworth, using a sync after each draw to make sure it's more fair |
| 14:20.31 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4383 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/ (opkg.c opkg.h): libopkg: add opkg_read_config_files() function |
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| 14:28.48 | SpeedEvil | Hmm. New community ML sport. |
| 14:28.53 | SpeedEvil | It's like cow-tipping. |
| 14:28.57 | SpeedEvil | developer tipping. |
| 14:30.36 | edistar_ | SpeedEvil: will you tip me? :) |
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| 14:32.12 | SpeedEvil | gets out archimedes lever. |
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| 14:33.02 | edistar_ | hides :) |
| 14:33.17 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4384 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/opkg.c: libopkg: add some checks for NULL strings |
| 14:33.49 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4385 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/tests/libopkg_test.c: opkg: add opkg_read_config_files() to libopkg_test |
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| 14:47.20 | summatusmentis | feel better mickey|sick |
| 14:47.48 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, y0 |
| 14:47.50 | mickey|sick | thanks |
| 14:48.00 | summatusmentis | hey Sup3rkiddo |
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| 15:21.50 | uda | what exactly is Freerunner? is that just a new name for the GTA02? |
| 15:22.29 | mjr | ye |
| 15:22.30 | xaid|work | uda: yes |
| 15:22.43 | uda | sweet. that was easy |
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| 15:25.54 | mib_rfm9sz4o | hey |
| 15:26.04 | summatusmentis | hi mib_rfm9sz4o |
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| 15:29.44 | mib_rfm9sz4o | this chat has to do with 802.11? |
| 15:31.26 | ScaredyCat | don't you w |
| 15:31.44 | mib_rfm9sz4o | w? |
| 15:32.06 | mjr | mib_rfm9sz4o, well. The Neo FreeRunner will have 802.11(g, I believe), so marginally :] |
| 15:32.07 | ScaredyCat | half typed sentance,.. |
| 15:32.12 | ScaredyCat | ignore it |
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| 17:48.40 | kdean06 | Where are SMS messages stored in the Openmoko filesystem? |
| 17:49.09 | Blastur | /dev/zero |
| 17:49.54 | kdean06 | Blastur, Are you sayng that they're not? |
| 17:50.27 | kdean06 | i.e. stored on the SIM only? |
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| 17:59.09 | mwester | kdean06: in /home/root, in one of the hidden folders. |
| 18:00.02 | kdean06 | mwester, Do you know which one? :P Specifically, openmoko-messages is segfaulting now that I've recieved a message so I can't read it, but I think I need to. :P |
| 18:00.17 | kdean06 | So I don't know what I'm looking for to grep, for instance. |
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| 18:03.27 | mwester | /home/root/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics |
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| 18:09.47 | pyknite | Is there on openmoko a program to backup mail/sms/calendar/... ? |
| 18:10.51 | kdean06 | Thanks mwester |
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| 18:22.20 | Ebbe | kdean06: I've had openmoko-messages to segfault when I have a null contact. |
| 18:22.34 | kdean06 | Ebbe, Me too. :( |
| 18:22.35 | Ebbe | I've reported a bug some time ago |
| 18:22.41 | kdean06 | I've opened a bug on the null contact thign. |
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| 18:34.48 | mwester | It also truncates SMS messages at the "@" symbol, which means that many mail->SMS and web->SMS gateways deliver only the sender id, and remove the actual message. |
| 18:35.38 | `pwgen` | hello |
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| 18:38.09 | `pwgen` | i have a "error: short SHA1 4194 is ambiguous" on kernel build .. can someone help me ? |
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| 18:39.49 | Mek | `pwgen`: change the rev in openembedded/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc to ${AUTOREV} |
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| 18:43.09 | `pwgen` | Mek: THX |
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| 18:59.27 | ScaredyCat | and lo it came to pass that monotone.openmoko.org sucked once more... |
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| 19:07.32 | roh | ScaredyCat whats up |
| 19:07.34 | balrog-kun | the suckage is never dies |
| 19:07.38 | balrog-kun | s/is// |
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| 19:08.06 | roh | balrog-kun it can only become more bearable as soon as we got rid of mtn |
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| 19:09.26 | balrog-kun | roh: is there a concrete plan for the switch? |
| 19:11.04 | balrog-kun | or do we just know that it will happen? |
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| 19:29.31 | Mek | bah... building with mokomakefile fails for me when creating the rootfs... somehow mkfs.jffs2 crashes (with a SIGABRT) on usr/bin/pon, usr/bin/sndfile-resample, and some other files... |
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| 19:29.52 | Mek | (as in, if I remove those files mkfs.jffs2 gets further, but crashes on another file) |
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| 19:30.54 | Mek | and it doesn't matter if I use my distro-provided mkfs.jffs2 (version 1.50), or the openembedded build one (version 1.60) |
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| 19:48.12 | borza | hello guys |
| 19:48.25 | borza | I've been accepted to GSoC - Accelerometer Gestures |
| 19:48.30 | borza | thans you very much! |
| 19:48.33 | borza | thanks |
| 19:48.42 | Blastur | gratz man |
| 19:48.52 | Sup3rkiddo | me too |
| 19:48.53 | Sup3rkiddo | :D |
| 19:48.54 | Sup3rkiddo | yay |
| 19:49.00 | Sup3rkiddo | borza, congrats |
| 19:49.02 | SpeedEvil | borza: do you plan to implement the light saber noise, in which case you have my full support. |
| 19:49.03 | Sup3rkiddo | have fun |
| 19:49.14 | summatusmentis | Sup3rkiddo: congrats! :-) |
| 19:49.23 | kdean06 | +1 to SpeedEvil's comment. |
| 19:49.24 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, yay..and you? |
| 19:49.31 | SpeedEvil | Campanological training aid too! |
| 19:49.50 | summatusmentis | Sup3rkiddo: got a mail(for another org) |
| 19:50.02 | borza | congrats Sup3rkiddo |
| 19:50.11 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, yay..congrats...happy hacking |
| 19:50.17 | Sup3rkiddo | borg, thanks :D |
| 19:50.25 | summatusmentis | Sup3rkiddo: you too dude :) |
| 19:50.31 | saurabh1403 | hi friends i have got selected in speech recognition system for open moko |
| 19:50.39 | Sup3rkiddo | saurabh1403, cool...congrats |
| 19:50.47 | saurabh1403 | thanks:) |
| 19:50.56 | Sup3rkiddo | http://code.google.com/soc/2008/openmoko/about.html |
| 19:51.16 | Niluge_KiWi | borza: you're lucky :) |
| 19:51.34 | Niluge_KiWi | I hope you'll do good work :) |
| 19:52.49 | borza | thanks |
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| 19:53.04 | summatusmentis | congrats all! |
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| 19:55.35 | borza | so 3 student for OpenMoko this year? |
| 19:55.43 | borza | 3 students |
| 19:56.34 | Sup3rkiddo | 10 |
| 19:57.33 | balrog-kun | Sup3rkiddo: congrats! what's the project's title? |
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| 19:57.59 | Sup3rkiddo | balrog-kun, odeviced |
| 19:58.18 | balrog-kun | okays |
| 19:58.36 | pyknite | great for yu guys ;) |
| 19:58.43 | summatusmentis | Sup3rkiddo: it looks like an interesting project :) |
| 19:58.54 | Sup3rkiddo | balrog-kun, http://code.google.com/soc/2008/openmoko/appinfo.html?csaid=C4E490026007DA79 |
| 19:58.59 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, thanks :P |
| 19:59.47 | borza | oh you're right |
| 20:00.03 | balrog-kun | cool stuff |
| 20:00.03 | borza | that's great |
| 20:00.24 | d3vice | you guys rock ! |
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| 20:01.33 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy-tracking * re975f12562c1 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_wm8753.c: From 77eb347463c7a50761666caacbf9b46b3d8214ac Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
| 20:01.34 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy-tracking * ref6d02685108 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/ (Kconfig neo1973_wm8753.c s3c24xx-i2s.c s3c24xx-pcm.c): From c1baaa80d398008fb4da52cd20f3dbb3fb256892 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
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| 20:04.05 | roh | wow.. cool |
| 20:04.06 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy * reff60ede70bd 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_wm8753.c: From 77eb347463c7a50761666caacbf9b46b3d8214ac Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
| 20:04.07 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy * rcad594a5edf1 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/ (Kconfig neo1973_wm8753.c s3c24xx-i2s.c s3c24xx-pcm.c): From c1baaa80d398008fb4da52cd20f3dbb3fb256892 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
| 20:04.39 | roh | heeey... and it seems my cia-hackery on git works |
| 20:05.00 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07stable * rbceecd55152c 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_wm8753.c: From 77eb347463c7a50761666caacbf9b46b3d8214ac Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
| 20:05.01 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07stable * recbd7cc4182e 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/ (Kconfig neo1973_wm8753.c s3c24xx-i2s.c s3c24xx-pcm.c): From c1baaa80d398008fb4da52cd20f3dbb3fb256892 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |
| 20:05.09 | kinneh | cia is fast |
| 20:05.28 | kinneh | sometimes it announces my commits before I commit them :-) |
| 20:05.36 | summatusmentis | lol |
| 20:05.42 | kinneh | (other project though) |
| 20:06.11 | ScaredyCat | start to worry when it commits fixes to your code before you commit |
| 20:06.47 | kinneh | hehe |
| 20:10.23 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07stable * rb22975802d89 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_wm8753.c: This-fixes-the-exit-function-so-that-the-module-can.patch |
| 20:10.24 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07stable * r1796e3d226fd 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/ (Kconfig neo1973_wm8753.c s3c24xx-i2s.c s3c24xx-pcm.c): This-adds-some-debug-messages-to-the-Neo1937-sound-d.patch |
| 20:11.12 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy * r954823764ced 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_wm8753.c: This-fixes-the-exit-function-so-that-the-module-can.patch |
| 20:11.12 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy * rf0409043eaf7 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/ (Kconfig neo1973_wm8753.c s3c24xx-i2s.c s3c24xx-pcm.c): This-adds-some-debug-messages-to-the-Neo1937-sound-d.patch |
| 20:12.48 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy-tracking * rb51d9ce5aadc 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/neo1973_wm8753.c: This-fixes-the-exit-function-so-that-the-module-can.patch |
| 20:12.48 | CIA-42 | openmoko: 03reddog 07andy-tracking * r590ec070c74a 10/sound/soc/s3c24xx/ (Kconfig neo1973_wm8753.c s3c24xx-i2s.c s3c24xx-pcm.c): This-adds-some-debug-messages-to-the-Neo1937-sound-d.patch |
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| 20:17.12 | ScaredyCat | hrrrm |
| 20:17.58 | ScaredyCat | isn't the gsoc remote control already available... |
| 20:18.18 | ScaredyCat | xkbd-bthid... |
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| 20:21.05 | abraxa_ | Some applications are interesting, to say the least |
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| 20:22.59 | Sup3rkiddo | gnight all... |
| 20:23.32 | abraxa_ | Nighty night, Sup3rkiddo |
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| 20:44.55 | ectomorph | anyone know when the freerunner will be released ? |
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| 20:46.13 | mjr | Yes, at some time. |
| 20:46.31 | ectomorph | hehe |
| 20:46.36 | ectomorph | this year ? |
| 20:46.41 | ectomorph | quarter ? |
| 20:47.05 | mjr | actually, Real Soon Now |
| 20:47.28 | ectomorph | ok, sounds good.. can't wait for it |
| 20:47.29 | ectomorph | :) |
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| 20:49.02 | rtm | I'm betting we'll get it exactly one year after the neo1973. |
| 20:49.19 | CVirus | will get what exactly ? |
| 20:49.31 | rtm | It's just a guess. |
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| 20:50.58 | rtm | CVirus: We'll get the Freerunner. |
| 20:51.09 | CVirus | ah ok |
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| 20:54.34 | ectomorph | will there be any supported map programs for the gps module ? |
| 20:55.48 | SpeedEvil | Not in the nicely canned routing app sense. |
| 20:55.53 | SpeedEvil | The problem isn't the app. |
| 20:55.56 | SpeedEvil | It's the map data. |
| 20:56.07 | SpeedEvil | OSM is - sort-of - there in some places. |
| 20:56.17 | rtm | tangoGPS works pretty well, I think. |
| 20:56.26 | SpeedEvil | And mapping via downloading tiles works too. |
| 20:56.59 | SpeedEvil | mapping as in viewing a map. |
| 20:57.03 | ectomorph | it will work more as a locator then a navigator then ? |
| 20:57.04 | SpeedEvil | Or google-maps |
| 20:57.25 | SpeedEvil | Yes. Navigation is a basically impossible problem with available data. |
| 20:57.42 | rtm | Why is navigation impossible? |
| 20:57.46 | SpeedEvil | Lack of data. |
| 20:57.58 | SpeedEvil | In 99.9% of cases |
| 20:58.13 | rtm | But, you can download street maps , and satellite images. |
| 20:58.14 | SpeedEvil | I mean navigation without downloading route oor map informationn form google forex. |
| 20:58.31 | SpeedEvil | yes - that works. Navigation is a seperate problem. |
| 20:58.40 | rtm | 2op "Oh - so you mean route planning? |
| 20:58.43 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 20:58.55 | rtm | Gotcha - I agree with that. |
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| 20:59.46 | rtm | But my Magellan has told me "Take U-turn followed by.... U-Turn" to many times for me to trust machine route finding. |
| 21:00.01 | SpeedEvil | Yeah. |
| 21:00.28 | SpeedEvil | I have a cheaper mapping thingy - and it's got problems. |
| 21:01.04 | rtm | What I really want is USGS topo maps to be downloadable. |
| 21:01.16 | kdean06 | Can anyone tell me the official way to manually suspend a GTA01? I understand you can do it on Freerunner by pushing the POWER button for a few seconds, but I want to know how to do it on the GTA01. |
| 21:01.35 | SpeedEvil | echo ram >/sys/power/state |
| 21:01.57 | kdean06 | SpeedEvil, That's the "official" way? |
| 21:02.07 | SpeedEvil | I don't know. |
| 21:02.26 | kdean06 | How would a user who doesn't ssh into the device suspend it? |
| 21:02.31 | kdean06 | I.e. "Regular user". |
| 21:02.48 | ScaredyCat | turn on dim then lock in pm |
| 21:03.04 | ScaredyCat | you ca't force suspend, you have to wait |
| 21:03.12 | kdean06 | ScaredyCat, Thought so. :) |
| 21:03.22 | ScaredyCat | unless someone adds the option :) |
| 21:03.54 | rtm | Why do they label it "dim and lock" rather than "dim and suspend"? "Lock" makes it sound like you'll need a password to re-activate it. |
| 21:04.13 | edistar | rtm: why not change it? |
| 21:04.42 | ScaredyCat | rtm: you're right.. it's the wrong wording |
| 21:05.07 | ScaredyCat | dim and suspend.. |
| 21:05.17 | ScaredyCat | but then , suspend didn;t work before... |
| 21:05.25 | ScaredyCat | so it was right :) |
| 21:05.38 | kdean06 | The term "lock" for mobiles makes me think "enter your pin to reactivate the phone" not "power save". :) |
| 21:05.39 | edistar | hehe, locked for good |
| 21:05.45 | rtm | Touche' ! |
| 21:05.48 | kdean06 | And as of this moment, there's neither feature. |
| 21:05.49 | ScaredyCat | it would dim, then lockup the device |
| 21:06.19 | ScaredyCat | well, suspend works kdean06... |
| 21:06.56 | kdean06 | ScaredyCat, Suspend works in SOME cases. :) |
| 21:07.02 | kdean06 | Resume sorta works. :) |
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| 21:07.23 | ScaredyCat | suspend is working every time for me... it's the resume that doesn;t work properly |
| 21:07.23 | rtm | Maybe call it "Dim and suspense" |
| 21:08.05 | kdean06 | ScaredyCat, Wake on incoming call works, but I'm not sure GSM actually resumes. :P |
| 21:08.12 | kdean06 | Sound is certainly broken. |
| 21:08.17 | ScaredyCat | neod comes back in the background... |
| 21:08.30 | ScaredyCat | no I think sound is buggered on resume |
| 21:08.56 | ScaredyCat | s/no/yes/ |
| 21:09.01 | SpeedEvil | wonders about suspend-disk. |
| 21:09.12 | ScaredyCat | where to SpeedEvil |
| 21:09.20 | SpeedEvil | swap |
| 21:09.36 | ScaredyCat | has been whittering on about suspend2 for 11 months |
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| 21:18.19 | ScaredyCat | kdean06: have you tried removing and re probing the sound drivers/ |
| 21:18.28 | ScaredyCat | after a resume |
| 21:18.58 | kdean06 | No. |
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| 21:37.54 | SpeedEvil | How do I tell tangogps to put downloaded maps on /media/card/maps ? |
| 21:37.54 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.35 | SpeedEvil | ah - got it |
| 21:52.34 | SpeedEvil | gets a 1-sat fix with tangogps. |
| 21:52.37 | SpeedEvil | waits. |
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| 22:13.14 | edistar | does anyone know now what project x might be? |
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| 22:19.35 | SpeedEvil | OpenSegway? |
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| 22:27.59 | amarsh04 | one of my friends has already done an "open segway" |
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| 23:13.50 | SpeedEvil | Anyone know what 'D1' means on the front of the status line of the map of tangogps? |
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