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| 02:43.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1333 has been created by tick(AT)openmoko.com |
| 02:43.01 | cdbot2 | * * ion tag list covers the bottom buttons |
| 02:43.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1333 |
| 02:44.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1334 has been created by tick(AT)openmoko.com |
| 02:44.01 | cdbot2 | * * not scrollable and scroll bar appears (partically) |
| 02:44.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1334 |
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| 04:44.11 | summatusmentis | abraxa__: you around? |
| 05:01.30 | summatusmentis | does anyone know when mickey|zzZZzz will be around tomorrow? |
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| 05:12.04 | uptownben | Hi all, if I want to develop a small bluetooth app that will work on multiple handsets, is openmoko for me? |
| 05:15.27 | uptownben | or is it only for the neo? |
| 05:17.05 | SpeedEvil | No. |
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| 05:17.23 | SpeedEvil | The idea is that in the future, a large number of phones will run OM. |
| 05:17.36 | SpeedEvil | However, this may be some way off. |
| 05:18.18 | SpeedEvil | Essentially no work is going into getting other phones working. |
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| 05:23.28 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r166 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/src/ (12 files): |
| 05:23.28 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Removed storage related old files. |
| 05:23.28 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Minor bugfixes and formatting changes. |
| 05:23.28 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Continued implementing phonebook operations. |
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| 05:39.21 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r167 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (19 files in 5 dirs): |
| 05:39.21 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Python wrapper for libfreesmartphone to allow running the same tests. Requires Cython |
| 05:39.21 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Minor cleanups and fixes |
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| 05:57.06 | maroi | hello |
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| 06:16.23 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r168 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/test/ (5 files): Began refactoring tests to enable testing libfreesmartphone aswell |
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| 06:31.00 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4335 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-gsm/src/openmoko-panel-gsm.c: openmoko-panel-gsm: detect GSM modem power status (Erin Yueh) |
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| 06:45.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1335 has been created by sean_chiang(AT)openmoko.com |
| 06:45.02 | cdbot2 | * * Sometimes get wrong event from kerel when plug/unplug headset |
| 06:45.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1335 |
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| 06:52.12 | ircboot | hi£¬i want to know £¬When Neo FreeRunner will be released£¬anynoe knows£¿ |
| 06:52.43 | SpeedEvil | Nobody who's telling. |
| 06:54.21 | ircboot | sorry,i first come here,i havdn't change my nickname |
| 06:55.20 | maroi | you can change your nick by entering /nick newnickname ... |
| 06:56.54 | MouseBerry | thank you,i have change it. |
| 06:57.18 | MouseBerry | do you have a neo1973? |
| 06:57.59 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 06:58.06 | MouseBerry | i saw new1973 yesterday,and i am very intrest it |
| 07:00.41 | MouseBerry | i want to buy FreeRunner , but maybe i will wait for a long time |
| 07:00.54 | SpeedEvil | When it'll be out isn't clear. |
| 07:01.10 | CM | Hopefully it's ready in a few weeks |
| 07:01.13 | SpeedEvil | The software certainly won't be end-user ready for maybe a year. |
| 07:02.09 | MouseBerry | a mazing! |
| 07:05.00 | MouseBerry | when neo1973 released? |
| 07:06.30 | SpeedEvil | At the absolute minimum probably a month. |
| 07:06.44 | SpeedEvil | Exactly when in reality is unknown. |
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| 07:08.36 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:12.19 | MouseBerry | when you buy neo1973? |
| 07:14.16 | SpeedEvil | August? Back when it wasn't sold out. |
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| 07:20.30 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r170 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/test/ (7 files): Temporary commit. |
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| 07:29.12 | MouseBerry | Öйú |
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| 07:33.14 | MouseBerry | if i broke software down , whether it can do recover to default state |
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| 07:37.09 | SpeedEvil | For freerunner. |
| 07:37.26 | SpeedEvil | You can't make it unbootable - there is a backup kernel in protected flash |
| 07:40.14 | MouseBerry | well,you really a specialist |
| 07:40.21 | cb22 | kernel? isnt it just uboot? |
| 07:40.24 | MouseBerry | thank you for your help |
| 07:44.03 | SpeedEvil | cbrake_away: As far as I understood it - it's a meg or two of flash. |
| 07:44.08 | SpeedEvil | sighs. |
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| 07:53.45 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r171 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/test/ (4 files): Rest of tests converted to use IPCInterface. |
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| 10:02.48 | thos | mickey|zzZZzz, more clutter + webkit bling: http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6260384783873521804 |
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| 10:05.33 | CM | thos: Looking good :) |
| 10:06.20 | thos | yeah |
| 10:06.30 | thos | raster, will evas ever be able to do that? |
| 10:06.55 | CM | Hehe.. Sounds like a challenge.. ;) |
| 10:10.32 | mickeyl | thos: nice |
| 10:10.38 | mickeyl | thos: which ardware does this run on? |
| 10:10.58 | CM | Desktop? |
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| 10:11.59 | mickeyl | oh |
| 10:12.00 | mickeyl | well |
| 10:12.34 | thos | mickeyl, any hardware with gl or gles of course |
| 10:12.39 | mickeyl | right |
| 10:12.50 | mickeyl | i can see clutter becoming very useful in the future |
| 10:12.56 | mickeyl | just not today |
| 10:13.02 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r172 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/test/ (7 files): Refactored perform test function and modified tests to use it. |
| 10:13.05 | mickeyl | [on the hardware we are working on] |
| 10:13.26 | thos | mickeyl, yeah, I just wish Dodji had time to complete the gles driver for glamo ... ;-) |
| 10:13.43 | thos | but that isn't going to happen, so oh well |
| 10:14.03 | mickeyl | given the glamo trackrecord we would probably be disappointed ;) |
| 10:14.26 | thos | yes, well that would also be an issue |
| 10:14.38 | thos | if only it were sat on a faster bus.. |
| 10:14.55 | thos | mickeyl, did you see I cooked up a little "gta02 test app" in python yesterday? |
| 10:15.41 | mickeyl | thos: yes, pretty cool. the accellerometers are pretty accurate, aren't they? |
| 10:16.12 | thos | well, I have no idea how to read the values, but they seem to have a good response time |
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| 10:18.54 | mickeyl | they can be configured to cover +- 2G or +-8G |
| 10:19.12 | mickeyl | i guess kernel configures them right now to cover +-2G |
| 10:19.23 | mickeyl | since that should be ok for most of the movements we are interested in |
| 10:24.55 | thos | mickeyl, do you know if there is an up to date toolchain available? |
| 10:25.01 | thos | mickeyl, I couldn't build one yesterday :-( |
| 10:25.09 | SpeedEvil | mickeyl: no - not really |
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| 10:25.39 | SpeedEvil | mickeyl: they have very low resolution - maybe 3 degrees or so - if the model of accelerometer mentioned way back on the ML is accuratge |
| 10:25.57 | SpeedEvil | There will be a very good response time |
| 10:26.12 | SpeedEvil | On the order of a few hundred Hz. |
| 10:27.51 | macdonalder | yeah, the hardware itself is capable of 400Hz |
| 10:28.19 | mickeyl | thos: i tried to build one as well. How did it bail out for you? (QA issues?) |
| 10:28.50 | thos | mickeyl, yeah, problems with python-native |
| 10:29.05 | thos | I tried assume provided on python native, but it still didn't work |
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| 10:29.10 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 10:29.12 | thos | it had some QA issues over evas |
| 10:29.13 | mickeyl | no problems with python here |
| 10:29.18 | thos | not sure if that was related |
| 10:29.23 | mickeyl | QA issues w/ gdb-cross |
| 10:29.28 | mickeyl | i'll investigate |
| 10:29.30 | thos | mickeyl, using mtn.om.org? |
| 10:29.35 | mickeyl | no, org.oe.dev |
| 10:29.38 | thos | ah |
| 10:29.42 | thos | I was using org.om.dev |
| 10:29.50 | mickeyl | might be slightly different through different execution order |
| 10:29.57 | mickeyl | BB_MULTIPLE_THREADS makes a difference as well |
| 10:30.07 | thos | I ended up removing that just to be sure |
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| 10:37.28 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03sean_chiang * r4336 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/src/buttonactions.c: when headset in or out, send signal to dbus |
| 10:39.46 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03sean_chiang * r4337 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/src/phone-kit/ (6 files): control audio state when headset in / out |
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| 10:55.40 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4338 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard-2/gtk-2.0/openmoko-contacts: theme: rename add detail widget name to be more generic |
| 11:01.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1336 has been created by werner(AT)openmoko.org |
| 11:01.02 | cdbot2 | * * screen shifted and duplicated after resume in landscape mode |
| 11:01.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1336 |
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| 11:26.23 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4339 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/dialer/moko-history.c): (log message trimmed) |
| 11:26.23 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 2008-04-10 Thomas Wood <thomas@openedhand.com> |
| 11:26.23 | CIA-41 | openmoko: * src/dialer/moko-history.c: |
| 11:26.23 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (create_new_contact_from_number): Correct dialog button order to be |
| 11:26.23 | CIA-41 | openmoko: consistent with other applications |
| 11:26.27 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (add_number_to_contact): Set the initial selected group and remove |
| 11:26.29 | CIA-41 | openmoko: dialog separator. |
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| 11:35.41 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4340 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-messages2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-save-number.c): (log message trimmed) |
| 11:35.41 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 2008-04-10 Thomas Wood <thomas@openedhand.com> |
| 11:35.41 | CIA-41 | openmoko: * src/moko-save-number.c: |
| 11:35.41 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (create_new_contact_from_number): Correct dialog button order to be |
| 11:35.43 | CIA-41 | openmoko: consistent with other applications |
| 11:35.47 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (add_number_to_contact): Set the initial selected group and remove |
| 11:35.49 | CIA-41 | openmoko: dialog separator. |
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| 12:02.08 | summatusmentis | mickeyl: ping |
| 12:02.22 | mickeyl | poing |
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| 12:06.14 | summatusmentis | mickeyl: this is an obscure question, and pretty direct. Is there any way for me to know if my app is likely to be submitted? |
| 12:06.42 | raster | thos: yes. some guys are working on an evas backend for webkit in .br :) |
| 12:07.27 | mickeyl | summatusmentis: I'm afraid not. the only thing i can say is that we have two proposals for odeviced, so not only are there a lot of submissions, but also yours compete directly against another one |
| 12:08.26 | josch | evas + webkit \o/ |
| 12:09.49 | summatusmentis | mickeyl: ok, the reason I ask: I also applied to OpenAFS to do some work on the kafs gpl portion of the Linux kernel. As such, the OpenAFS team(in order to for my app to work) would be working w/ RedHat w/in the next week to make sure things are functional on the RedHat end. I don't know if OAFS would approve my app through SoC, but they did say they are willing to hire me, regardless of SoC outcome. The issue is, they need to be |
| 12:09.49 | summatusmentis | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.19 | summatusmentis | mickeyl: so I'm trying to balance working w/ OM, and potentially working w/ OpenAFS |
| 12:10.36 | mickeyl | summatusmentis: that sounds like a good offer to me |
| 12:10.52 | mickeyl | i would take this chance |
| 12:11.05 | mickeyl | unfortunately i can not give a direct answer about the ranking, sorry |
| 12:11.53 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: Having one option in your pocket and one open would make the decision clear to me. :) |
| 12:12.01 | summatusmentis | I assumed you couldn't. I know there's another app against mine, Sup3rkiddo and I were discussing them :) |
| 12:12.14 | summatusmentis | stefan_schmidt: you think I should go OAFS also? |
| 12:12.34 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: Well, if you already have the offer. Go for it. |
| 12:12.48 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: We can't tell you about the rankings. |
| 12:13.03 | summatusmentis | I know, but I figured it was worth asking |
| 12:13.07 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: Also we don't know how many slots we will get |
| 12:13.23 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: Sure, it's worth. |
| 12:13.24 | raster | josch: they're taking a bit of time on it - but it is on its way |
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| 12:13.36 | raster | i talked with them on how to best make it happen when in .br |
| 12:13.39 | raster | for a bit |
| 12:13.42 | summatusmentis | there was a list released to mentors yesterday w/ a preliminary count. According to OAFS, OpenMoko received 10 |
| 12:14.03 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: ups, we never got this list |
| 12:14.21 | SpeedEvil | Google hates openmoko! |
| 12:14.22 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 12:14.26 | stefan_schmidt | SpeedEvil: heh |
| 12:14.51 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: Pretty high number. Would be great thought. :) |
| 12:14.55 | summatusmentis | I see. As a student I don't know anything about it outside of what was mentioned in #gsoc, and by OAFS. I assume it was sent to the mentor mailing list |
| 12:15.23 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: We need to dig this out. Thanks for the info. |
| 12:15.47 | summatusmentis | sure. How many unique projects were submitted(for OpenMoko)? |
| 12:15.52 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: About your decision. Well, it is yours, but when I would have an offer and one open proposal... |
| 12:16.15 | stefan_schmidt | summatusmentis: ~45, more a guess |
| 12:16.29 | summatusmentis | stefan_schmidt: yeah, that logic makes sense to me. I just like OpenMoko more :) I feel like i"m further vested in OM |
| 12:16.38 | summatusmentis | (having OE background, etc.) |
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| 12:17.40 | summatusmentis | hi Sup3rkiddo |
| 12:18.01 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, hi |
| 12:18.30 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, how goes, still "Ranking in progress"....? 2 weeks is making me cry |
| 12:19.06 | summatusmentis | Sup3rkiddo: yeah, I'm still at "Ranking in progress" also |
| 12:19.48 | summatusmentis | bbiab |
| 12:19.53 | josch | raster, great! i'm rly awaiting this implementation as rendering html is important for a lot of applications and the fact that those cannot be written with efl makes me sad :-( |
| 12:20.10 | raster | heheheh |
| 12:20.41 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: Actually only you didn't get that info because you unsubscribed from the mentor's list ;-) |
| 12:20.45 | Sup3rkiddo | josch, y0 |
| 12:20.51 | alphaone | But it's preliminary! |
| 12:21.34 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Well, after ~400 "I'm dude, working for foo" I switched to announce only. |
| 12:21.42 | alphaone | It means nothing, nada! It only means that our actual number will be LOWER than this!!! |
| 12:21.44 | josch | personnally i dont want to have gtk installed ONLY because i cant browse the web without it |
| 12:21.48 | stefan_schmidt | wonders what the policy is about sending what to which ml |
| 12:22.15 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway, back to code. later guys |
| 12:22.32 | alphaone | Please get that, this number is bs. It will certainly change and it won't become higher. So don't worry about it now. |
| 12:23.30 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: I think everybody got it now. ;) |
| 12:23.53 | alphaone | The reason is that quite a few projects have not entered their "we would like to have x slots" field so the few who did got what they asked for. |
| 12:24.02 | alphaone | Somewhere along the line. |
| 12:24.09 | alphaone | stefan_schmidt: I certainly hope so |
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| 12:29.29 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r173 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Fixes in test and in sms stuff |
| 12:33.15 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r174 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:33.15 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Minor fix in ipc_interface |
| 12:33.15 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Continued implementing phonebook interface and tests |
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| 12:40.46 | madel | hi all |
| 12:41.06 | madel | does any one know when Neo FreeRunner will be released ? |
| 12:41.36 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 12:42.02 | josch | hehe |
| 12:42.21 | zedstar_ | step aside nothing to see here |
| 12:43.11 | *** topic/#openmoko by SpeedEvil -> Welcome to the Openmoko support and discussion channel! The Freerunner phone (with wifi) will be released at some time. | Official status: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates | Want 3G in the successor? http://blog.automated.it |
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| 12:43.41 | zedstar_ | madel nobody knows sorry |
| 12:44.22 | madel | :( |
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| 12:49.24 | abraxa_ | ~seen rwhitby |
| 12:49.27 | apt | rwhitby <n=rwhitby@nslu2-linux/rwhitby> was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 7d 38m 3s ago, saying: 'slytherin: it's all 1's and 0's, so yes.'. |
| 12:49.35 | abraxa_ | urgh |
| 12:49.45 | mickeyl | rwhitby is on vacation |
| 12:49.49 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03pikkive * r175 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/test/ (modem_ui.py ui.py): Fixed modem_ui and ui to use DBusInterface |
| 12:49.50 | mickeyl | at least one more week |
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| 12:50.04 | abraxa_ | Darn |
| 12:51.14 | scout | any predictions on when one can buy the freerunner ? |
| 12:51.44 | abraxa_ | After the PVT tests :) |
| 12:52.02 | scout | and they are gonna end ? |
| 12:52.26 | scout | i'm really in the need of a new phone (more or less), and a openmoko phone would be my choice if possible |
| 12:52.43 | scout | so is it like one month, five months, three years ? |
| 12:54.57 | abraxa_ | A month sounds like a good estimate for the beginning of mass production. Two more weeks to build a few and then it should be available from the online store - that's my personal opinion, though delays (e.g. from shipping) can always occur, unfortunately |
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| 13:01.44 | SpeedEvil | votes for just putting them on ebay. |
| 13:03.12 | Gottox | votes a olpc spinoff -> omph, on mobile per hacker. |
| 13:03.18 | Gottox | +e |
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| 13:08.39 | summatusmentis | mickeyl: is there any way for students to know which projects OM is likely to be accepting, not specifically which student, but which project OM is interested in? |
| 13:10.58 | mickeyl | nothing more than what was written on the wiki and the mailing lists |
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| 13:11.34 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r176 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/test/ (gsmd_common.py ipc_interface.py): Minor test fixes |
| 13:11.36 | summatusmentis | ok, fair enough. This whole 'in the dark thing' is annoying :) |
| 13:12.12 | thos | summatusmentis, you are assuming something is actually happening at all ;-) |
| 13:12.43 | summatusmentis | thos, well, yes :D |
| 13:13.18 | thos | I often find the reason for no information is simply because nothing has happened |
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| 13:13.34 | mickeyl | well, the ranking process has always been like that |
| 13:13.42 | mickeyl | whether that's good or bad is another sotry |
| 13:13.54 | mickeyl | it's google's decision to keep the ranking private |
| 13:13.59 | mickeyl | otherwise they would've made it public |
| 13:14.18 | summatusmentis | yeah, I can see why there would be reason to not tell students how the ranking process is going. It just causes your head to run in circles :) |
| 13:14.19 | mickeyl | i don't think we as potential mentors are supposed to undermine this by telling stats |
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| 13:15.19 | summatusmentis | people in #gsoc have said to ask your mentors, and that it's up to the org to make the decision, but I don't know if they mean ranking specifically, or just what the org thinks of your app |
| 13:15.54 | summatusmentis | not arguing w/ you mickeyl, just saying :-D |
| 13:17.18 | mickeyl | sure. i see it as a safety mechanism. if i were to inform the 60 applicants about the stats all the time, i can as well go crazy |
| 13:17.29 | mickeyl | not speaking about org's who get more applications |
| 13:17.34 | mickeyl | *shrug* |
| 13:17.52 | thos | mickeyl, some student had a voice mail idea which I offered to mentor for |
| 13:17.56 | summatusmentis | yeah, makes sense |
| 13:18.11 | thos | mickeyl, stephan said I should apply to be a mentor, but I never got a response, so I guess that was deleted? |
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| 13:20.02 | mickeyl | thos: dunno which response you are expecting, but you are listed as mentor |
| 13:20.13 | thos | oh |
| 13:20.18 | thos | mickeyl, I have no idea how to log in then |
| 13:20.22 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:20.25 | mickeyl | check google faqs |
| 13:20.26 | mickeyl | or go to |
| 13:20.27 | thos | I thought i'd get an e-mail |
| 13:20.35 | mickeyl | http://code.google.com/soc/2008/mentor_home.html |
| 13:21.03 | thos | eh, GSoC navigation is dire |
| 13:23.16 | summatusmentis | mickeyl: would it put a kink in OM's process right now if I went w/ the other option? |
| 13:23.34 | mickeyl | not at all. like i said, it's a ton of applications and applicants |
| 13:23.53 | mickeyl | do what feels best for ya |
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| 13:24.31 | summatusmentis | alright. Are you likely to be around tomorrow around the time I first pinged you this morning? |
| 13:24.44 | summatusmentis | (no idea what TZ you're in) |
| 13:25.13 | gi-el | hands summatusmentis a /CTCP time |
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| 13:25.38 | mickeyl | is in MET |
| 13:25.38 | mickeyl | actually MET+dst |
| 13:25.44 | mickeyl | it's 15:26, so to speak |
| 13:25.57 | mickeyl | and no, i'll be away on friday without internet :) |
| 13:26.03 | mickeyl | but i'll be here on weekend |
| 13:26.03 | gi-el | i think it's called CEST |
| 13:26.08 | mickeyl | probably |
| 13:26.11 | gi-el | central european summer time |
| 13:27.03 | summatusmentis | I'll probably be gone friday too. I'll make a decision by then, and send you an email regarding my decision |
| 13:27.38 | mickeyl | oki |
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| 14:06.32 | summatusmentis | how feasible is it to run OpenMoko on a zaurus? |
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| 14:15.10 | tomjoad | summatusmentis: On youtube there is a zaurus running the OM UI 2007.2 but the comments say its running the angstrom-distribution. IIRC that is built off openembedded also so I'm saying it seems like it is feasible. |
| 14:15.43 | tomjoad | i have no idea /how/ feasible |
| 14:18.08 | summatusmentis | tomjoad: I just saw that. Angstrom and OM are both OE based, and I think they have pretty close code-bases |
| 14:18.38 | summatusmentis | I tried building OM for zaurus once, and I could never get the image to build completely |
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| 14:18.50 | mib_u5t3ci4u | does anyone have any updates on the GSoC selection process? (total number or applications, number of available slots etc) |
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| 14:19.29 | summatusmentis | slot #s were preliminarily released to the mentors list yesterday. They are subject to change though |
| 14:19.44 | summatusmentis | I had heard that there were 10 slots, but I don't know how true that is |
| 14:19.49 | Sup3rkiddo | mib_u5t3ci4u, stefan sent the status to the lists...no public word on #s afaik |
| 14:19.53 | abraxa_ | mib_u5t3ci4u: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-April/015003.html |
| 14:20.10 | summatusmentis | there were 62 applications, 13 of which were for accelerometers |
| 14:21.09 | SpeedEvil | 2 for each axis! |
| 14:21.40 | summatusmentis | up,down,left,right,forward,back ? |
| 14:22.13 | SpeedEvil | no - there are 2 3 axis - 6 axis |
| 14:22.20 | mib_u5t3ci4u | looks like the motion gestures will get implemented |
| 14:25.11 | summatusmentis | SpeedEvil: oh, axis, not direction, hrr |
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| 14:33.17 | summatusmentis | bye all |
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| 14:45.36 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03chris * r4342 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/libmokoui2/ (ChangeLog libmokoui/moko-finger-scroll.c): |
| 14:45.36 | CIA-41 | openmoko: * libmokoui/moko-finger-scroll.c |
| 14:45.36 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (moko_finger_scroll_button_press_cb), |
| 14:45.37 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (moko_finger_scroll_motion_notify_cb), |
| 14:45.37 | CIA-41 | openmoko: (moko_finger_scroll_button_release_cb), (moko_finger_scroll_init): |
| 14:45.40 | CIA-41 | openmoko: Do check event type, but don't distinguish between single click and |
| 14:45.42 | CIA-41 | openmoko: double-click |
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| 15:00.00 | arvind_khadri | how do i know which OS my handset is using?? |
| 15:00.27 | CoreDump | well, you could probably google for it heh |
| 15:00.58 | arvind_khadri | CoreDump, hmm |
| 15:01.32 | SpeedEvil | Does it bluescreen a lot? |
| 15:01.33 | arvind_khadri | any idea of motorola SLVR L9 |
| 15:01.41 | CoreDump | SpeedEvil: =D |
| 15:01.45 | zedstar_ | lol speedevil |
| 15:03.09 | zedstar_ | id imagine it is some proprietary OS which may allow some naff java apps to run on it |
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| 15:04.27 | arvind_khadri | zedstar, was that for me?? |
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| 15:05.09 | zedstar_ | arvind yeh |
| 15:06.04 | zedstar_ | motorola did use linux in some models though |
| 15:06.09 | arvind_khadri | zedstar, it uses P20K5 |
| 15:06.26 | arvind_khadri | zedstar, is it linux by any chance?? |
| 15:06.46 | zedstar_ | not the L9 as i think i have that phone |
| 15:06.58 | CoreDump | if you had bothered to google, you'd probably know by now ;) |
| 15:07.20 | arvind_khadri | zedstar, hey we share a same phone |
| 15:07.38 | arvind_khadri | zedstar, its some prop OS only |
| 15:07.44 | zedstar_ | arvind i draw the line at sharing bodily fluids tho |
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| 15:08.46 | arvind_khadri | zedstar, that wasnt funny |
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| 15:10.35 | zedstar_ | theres gratitude for answering the question lol |
| 15:10.41 | linuxxr | yay |
| 15:14.01 | CoreDump | =) |
| 15:15.02 | Sup3rkiddo | anyone able to make update lately? |
| 15:19.15 | wurp2|away | zedstar_: I thought it was funny ;-) |
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| 15:20.07 | zedstar_ | wurp2 :) |
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| 15:28.14 | summatusmentis | tries an OM build for spitz |
| 15:28.26 | summatusmentis | oh, wrong channel |
| 15:30.01 | zedstar_ | anyone actually tried the iphone sdk? from what i gather the official sdk only allows u to run one application at a time and there is no interprocess communication (well no need if just one app runnning).... that seems pretty restrictive |
| 15:30.55 | pyknite | :P |
| 15:31.15 | pyknite | iphone sucks :D |
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| 15:31.32 | mickey|lunch | hmm |
| 15:32.44 | summatusmentis | zedstar_: I thought about it, but I don't have an iPhone, and likely never will |
| 15:33.00 | abraxa_ | zedstar_: If that is true then I would say that their *ability* to restrict you in that way clearly shows how "open" they are - not to mention their intentional crippling of the SDK. |
| 15:33.04 | summatusmentis | also, don't have any practical coding experience, so it'd be a waste of a downlaod for me :) |
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| 15:33.53 | zedstar_ | yeh doesnt look very good for novel application development does it |
| 15:34.15 | alphaone | pyknite: You can't say iphone sucks when mickey is arount |
| 15:34.18 | alphaone | around |
| 15:34.28 | alphaone | That's his backup plan |
| 15:34.55 | pyknite | alphaone: don't understand :( |
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| 15:35.30 | abraxa_ | alphaone: ...and *you* tell mickey to not blog about internals... you hypocrite, you! |
| 15:35.53 | alphaone | abraxa_: Was I blogging? ;-) |
| 15:35.54 | mickey|lunch | grrr |
| 15:36.09 | mickey|lunch | so much for keeping secrets :D |
| 15:36.30 | SpeedEvil | ponders OM on iphone. |
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| 15:36.41 | abraxa_ | lol |
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| 15:46.57 | ccfly | hello :) |
| 15:47.33 | abraxa_ | Ahoy |
| 15:47.33 | summatusmentis | hi ccfly |
| 15:47.36 | pyknite | hi |
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| 15:55.40 | CIA-41 | openmoko: 03sean_chiang * r4343 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/src/phone-kit/ (moko-headset.c moko-headset.h): forgot to svn add. add the missing files. |
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| 16:02.52 | mw-home | Hi, I'm considering buying an openmoko phone so that I can send and receive text messages with scripts. Does anyone know if the openmoko phone sends out an AT+CMTI when a new sms message arrives? |
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| 16:09.35 | mw-home | are there any docs that describe the SMS features for the neo phone? |
| 16:10.16 | mickey|lunch | it's an 07.07 compliant modem |
| 16:10.32 | mickey|lunch | so i'm sure you can make it send +cmti |
| 16:11.00 | abraxa_ | mickey|lunch: I thought emdete already has that working |
| 16:11.11 | mickey|lunch | possible |
| 16:11.23 | mickey|lunch | just that i have not seen this message arrive "personally" yet |
| 16:11.39 | abraxa_ | He said something about pygsmd notifying his app on incoming SMS |
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| 16:15.42 | mw-home | I live in USA. what phone should I buy? |
| 16:15.49 | mw-home | I have a spare sim card. |
| 16:15.56 | mw-home | and plan to use it just for hacking. |
| 16:17.21 | mickey|lunch | if you're prepared to deal with alpha software, wait until the Neo FreeRunner hits the market |
| 16:17.23 | mickey|lunch | very soon |
| 16:17.55 | mw-home | mickey|lunch: and if I need something slightly more stable? |
| 16:17.59 | Qwell | "very soon"? have there been any updates lately? |
| 16:18.14 | SpeedEvil | guesses mickey|lunch has insider info. |
| 16:18.29 | mickey|lunch | mw-home: then you might want to grab an EZX phone |
| 16:18.33 | Qwell | oh, wiki page was just updated |
| 16:18.47 | mw-home | EZX? |
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| 16:19.15 | mickey|lunch | a1200 |
| 16:19.20 | mickey|lunch | razr |
| 16:19.22 | mickey|lunch | etc. |
| 16:19.32 | mickey|lunch | they come with a working but outdated and dull OS from the start |
| 16:19.43 | mickey|lunch | but they are hackable to varying degrees |
| 16:21.49 | mw-home | where to buy? ebay? |
| 16:22.18 | stevecrozz | mw-home https://direct.openmoko.com/ when its finally ready |
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| 16:26.42 | Sup3rkiddo | anyone having problems with make update? |
| 16:27.02 | Sup3rkiddo | tells me connection refused when it tries to connect to monotone server |
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| 16:28.00 | abraxa_ | Yeah, others have it as well |
| 16:28.28 | Sup3rkiddo | oh ..ok |
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| 16:57.34 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 16:57.42 | CVirus | hello |
| 16:57.59 | cb22 | ciao |
| 16:59.51 | thos | hola |
| 17:02.32 | summatusmentis | ugh... figures, the one day I don't read the entire article, noone comes to class :/ |
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| 17:03.05 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, ola |
| 17:03.34 | summatusmentis | hey Sup3rkiddo |
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| 17:04.28 | wurp2 | Someone was asking me about making a dialer image for them to use with an old-time pulse dialer... |
| 17:04.33 | wurp2 | josch: you, maybe? |
| 17:04.56 | wurp2 | Anyway, I just wanted to say I haven't forgotten about it - I have one layer done; the other two are in progress |
| 17:04.59 | Qwell | wurp2: I want it too :D |
| 17:05.06 | Qwell | that would be awesome |
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| 17:05.22 | wurp2 | Of course, the one layer I have done is the tab by itself :-) |
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| 17:30.28 | wurp2 | Any lispers in here? I'd like to go OT to ask a (probably simple) lisp question |
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| 17:32.36 | Sup3rkiddo | wurp2, no :D |
| 17:32.43 | wurp2 | :-) |
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| 17:44.05 | zedstar_ | wurp2 what's the question....not a lisp person but scheme is close enough :) |
| 17:45.36 | Sup3rkiddo | (lisp(is(fun))) |
| 17:45.50 | Sup3rkiddo | reminds me of onions for strange reasons |
| 17:46.28 | stevecrozz | (what(are(you(talking)(about)))) |
| 17:46.55 | summatusmentis | ugh... haet @ scheme |
| 17:47.09 | Sup3rkiddo | (this(is(getting)(lame))) |
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| 17:51.32 | CVirus | Sup3rkiddo: I've got a lisp course ... I don't feel like it |
| 17:51.37 | CVirus | logic programming is so ... doh |
| 17:51.47 | CVirus | I'm not that smart |
| 17:52.38 | Sup3rkiddo | too bad i dont have any Lisp as part of my course |
| 17:54.27 | zedstar_ | dont bother with a course read this http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/ |
| 17:54.43 | zedstar_ | and begin your path to enlightenment ;) |
| 17:55.18 | summatusmentis | you Lisp/Scheme people are weird :) |
| 17:55.37 | summatusmentis | I just don't get it |
| 17:56.08 | zedstar_ | actually i found that book a bit too academic but if u understand that u can pass a google interview anyway lol |
| 17:56.10 | CVirus | zedstar_: I have to study for the course anyways :-D ... can't fail this one |
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| 17:56.22 | CVirus | hehe |
| 17:56.38 | Sup3rkiddo | summatusmentis, paranthesis are good |
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| 17:56.56 | CVirus | Sup3rkiddo: how are you studying lisp ? |
| 17:57.05 | florian | bbl |
| 17:57.10 | Sup3rkiddo | zedstar_, i hate to admit it, i went wtf after 20 pages of sicp |
| 17:57.19 | Sup3rkiddo | i couldnt understand it |
| 17:57.34 | zedstar_ | sup3rkiddo yeh that is ok me too really |
| 17:57.36 | Sup3rkiddo | CVirus, i just read some from SICP, thats all |
| 17:57.47 | zedstar_ | i sometimes go back and look at stuff and try and understand |
| 17:57.55 | CVirus | any other suggestions ? |
| 17:57.55 | Sup3rkiddo | but python.. |
| 17:57.58 | Sup3rkiddo | ..is sweet |
| 17:58.00 | CVirus | python rocks |
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| 17:58.06 | Sup3rkiddo | hail python |
| 17:58.36 | cb22 | all hail |
| 17:58.44 | Sup3rkiddo | no |
| 17:58.59 | zedstar_ | if u wanna learn practically then http://www.scheme.com/tspl3/ is much easier i think |
| 18:00.00 | CVirus | zedstar_: thanks alot |
| 18:00.33 | zedstar_ | plus u can install the scheme intrepreter ipkg i made and try it out live on your phone |
| 18:01.38 | zedstar_ | scheme is designed to be minimal so only has one shared library thats it (in chicken scheme) good for embedded stuff |
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| 18:04.01 | quicksand | Question for the assembled masses: anyone ELSE having trouble building openmoko-alsa-scenarios? |
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| 18:04.16 | quicksand | It's failing during the fetch stage -- for some reason it's trying to get SVNR1 |
| 18:04.36 | quicksand | And the real SVN revision is 43XX, obviously |
| 18:05.12 | quicksand | I am using AUTOREV and have confirmed that that package is in the autorev file. |
| 18:05.18 | quicksand | All other packages seem OK. |
| 18:05.39 | quicksand | It has been failing for a couple of days. |
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| 18:30.06 | quicksand | Oh noes! I broke teh channel! |
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| 18:31.05 | cb22 | boo :( |
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| 18:31.58 | josch | wurp2, retro phone? \o/ |
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| 18:32.44 | josch | quicksand, nooo... not again! :-D |
| 18:33.13 | josch | wurp2, ping pong! |
| 18:33.20 | josch | wants steampunk phone! |
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| 19:00.38 | wurp2 | josch: Here now |
| 19:01.11 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:01.59 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.23 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.30 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.32 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.39 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.40 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.42 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.44 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.46 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.47 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.50 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.52 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.54 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.55 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:02.57 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 19:02.57 | Gottox | \\o |
| 19:02.58 | josch | \o/ |
| 19:03.01 | josch | nooo! |
| 19:03.02 | Gottox | o// |
| 19:03.05 | cb22 | nooo :( |
| 19:03.08 | josch | :( |
| 19:03.15 | cb22 | evil combo breaker :(( |
| 19:03.30 | josch | this was going to be the loooongest combo ever on irc! |
| 19:04.16 | cb22 | josch, btw, you know us as the openmoko community have made a decision |
| 19:04.24 | cb22 | you cannot give the camisole to your girlfried |
| 19:04.35 | josch | hahahaha |
| 19:04.37 | cb22 | you have to wear it yourself :p |
| 19:04.44 | josch | of course... :P |
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| 19:05.05 | abraxa_ | ties cb22 up |
| 19:05.10 | summatusmentis | hawt |
| 19:05.13 | abraxa_ | josch, you didn't hear anything. |
| 19:05.23 | cb22 | mmmfmmfmmfmfm |
| 19:05.23 | summatusmentis | what's the safe word, so I know when to intervene? |
| 19:06.20 | cb22 | help me!!! |
| 19:06.23 | abraxa_ | There's none. He's tied up until I get to see josch's g/f in the shirt. |
| 19:06.31 | wurp2 | I don't think i like where this is going |
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| 19:06.37 | wurp2 | or, in fact, where it has been... |
| 19:06.52 | ajbrun | I notice the topic has changed to say that the freerunner will be released at "some time" |
| 19:06.52 | josch | lololol |
| 19:07.01 | ajbrun | does this mean soon or not so soon now? |
| 19:07.01 | cb22 | activates the laser cutter he has built into his spy version of the freerunner |
| 19:07.07 | ajbrun | do we know anything new? |
| 19:07.12 | josch | ajbrun, no |
| 19:07.14 | josch | nothing |
| 19:07.16 | ajbrun | k |
| 19:07.24 | cb22 | PVT 1/ 3 done |
| 19:07.51 | ajbrun | what's pvt again? |
| 19:07.53 | wurp2 | We know that Mickey said "very soon" to someone earlier about when it would be out |
| 19:07.56 | wurp2 | or something close to that |
| 19:07.59 | josch | product validation... |
| 19:08.01 | cb22 | product verification testing |
| 19:08.02 | wurp2 | production verification testing |
| 19:08.02 | josch | no.. |
| 19:08.04 | josch | ah! |
| 19:08.13 | cb22 | oops |
| 19:08.21 | wurp2 | finding ways to improve production yield & reduce costs, I presume |
| 19:08.25 | ajbrun | well "very soon" is good anyway :) |
| 19:08.48 | josch | ajbrun, he changed it 'cause EVERY MINUTE someone was asking about it... |
| 19:08.56 | ajbrun | lol |
| 19:09.02 | ajbrun | i only ask when it changes :p |
| 19:09.22 | summatusmentis | how long did it take for PVT 1 to happen? |
| 19:10.00 | cb22 | we think 20 days or so |
| 19:10.16 | ajbrun | ah, so not april anymore then ;) |
| 19:10.54 | josch | hrm.. then the topic should be changed to may? |
| 19:11.05 | ajbrun | josch - no point imo |
| 19:11.15 | summatusmentis | that's a shame |
| 19:11.19 | ajbrun | it's been december, march, april and now may? |
| 19:11.34 | ajbrun | putting a date don't mean anything anymore |
| 19:11.47 | edistar | ajbrun: at least the intervals ar getting shorter |
| 19:11.49 | edistar | *are |
| 19:11.59 | summatusmentis | except that we had no idea last time... now we've got a sort of timeline |
| 19:12.20 | josch | hehe |
| 19:12.48 | josch | is happy that he bought a gta01 last year and didnt wait when they said that it would be released for christmas |
| 19:13.08 | summatusmentis | josch: is it a usable phone? |
| 19:13.12 | summatusmentis | or... nvm |
| 19:13.14 | josch | lololol |
| 19:13.16 | josch | usable |
| 19:13.20 | josch | are you kidding?? |
| 19:13.22 | josch | but.. |
| 19:13.27 | summatusmentis | will it be usable when software is there? |
| 19:13.30 | josch | i hear of people actually using it |
| 19:13.40 | josch | it's all about the software |
| 19:13.49 | josch | if the software is there then no problem |
| 19:13.53 | summatusmentis | but there's nothing wrong w/ the handsets |
| 19:13.54 | ajbrun | if i buy a europe type phone with whatever bandwidth we have here, what parts of the phone won't work in the US? |
| 19:13.58 | ajbrun | just calls? |
| 19:14.05 | ajbrun | texts/interweb? |
| 19:14.14 | josch | but for me it will certainly never be a phone - i hack too much on it :P |
| 19:14.22 | josch | it's broken every two days |
| 19:14.26 | summatusmentis | lol |
| 19:14.30 | josch | and reflashed every week |
| 19:14.35 | cb22 | get a dialer working on debian :p |
| 19:15.28 | josch | ajbrun, in some parts of the usa you simply dont have the 900mhz band for gsm - so no phone, sms, gprs... |
| 19:15.38 | *** join/#openmoko tonyg (n=tonyg@82.152.250.213) |
| 19:15.49 | ajbrun | so only wifi would work? |
| 19:16.11 | CVirus | in -some- parts |
| 19:16.17 | ajbrun | planning on getting one and taking it to america (assuming it's out for july) |
| 19:16.35 | *** join/#openmoko cb22 (n=federico@moinmoin/developer/federico) |
| 19:16.39 | CVirus | no gsm, gprs in "some" parts |
| 19:16.46 | wibbit_ | ajbrun: you're planning ahead... |
| 19:17.07 | ajbrun | oh, i was under the imression that the whole of the US used the same bandwidth, so i guess the europe type phone may work in parts then |
| 19:17.07 | wibbit_ | ajbrun: most people don't plan on trips 18months in the future |
| 19:17.09 | wibbit_ | :) |
| 19:17.15 | ajbrun | wibbit_ - i know |
| 19:17.20 | ajbrun | july isn't 18 months away |
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| 19:17.34 | wibbit_ | you're right |
| 19:17.36 | wibbit_ | 15 months |
| 19:17.38 | ajbrun | i just like to know what i should expect |
| 19:17.45 | ajbrun | 3 months |
| 19:17.59 | wibbit_ | expect 15 :) |
| 19:18.05 | ajbrun | ? |
| 19:18.23 | wibbit_ | months |
| 19:18.25 | edistar | lol |
| 19:18.33 | ajbrun | no - i'm definatly going in 3 |
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| 19:18.55 | wibbit_ | no no, 15 months, if you're expecting to be carying a freerunner withyou, it's certainly 2009 |
| 19:19.00 | wibbit_ | check your calendar |
| 19:19.06 | CVirus | LOL |
| 19:19.43 | CVirus | FreeRunner sounds like the latest in car technology ... the fastest automobile ever .. that's it's taking them years to release it |
| 19:19.49 | CVirus | that's why* |
| 19:20.03 | wibbit_ | CVirus: that's because their having issues catching it |
| 19:20.11 | CVirus | catching it ? |
| 19:20.14 | edistar | CVirus: just wait what kind of custom cases some people will build :P |
| 19:20.16 | wibbit_ | the phone |
| 19:20.18 | CVirus | ah okay .. didn't get the joke |
| 19:20.19 | wibbit_ | it's too quick |
| 19:20.21 | CVirus | hehe |
| 19:20.31 | ajbrun | wibbit_ - you're talking mass market release i assume? |
| 19:22.03 | CVirus | I'm sure the FreeRunner hardware won't be out before 6-9 months |
| 19:22.29 | mwester | ajbrun: Euro GSM phones will work near major metropolitan areas, usually on t-mobile's network. You will not have service outside of those large population centers. You *may* find service along major highways as well. |
| 19:22.46 | ajbrun | k - thanks :) |
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| 19:23.42 | mwester | The problem is that low-density areas are served by the lower-frequency band (better coverage for the signal), but europe uses 900 for that, which is in use by other things in North America -- so its 850 in NA. |
| 19:24.03 | summatusmentis | oh right, I forgot 1973 doesn't do 850Mhz |
| 19:24.20 | mwester | Triband phones only have one or the other, but not both, 850 and 900. |
| 19:24.46 | meagain | hey, does anybody has problems with building openmoko? |
| 19:24.59 | meagain | i'm getting the following error: |
| 19:25.15 | cb22 | uhm |
| 19:25.15 | mwester | The problem is compounded in Canada, as it seems that Rogers requires that the phones use *both* high and low bands when connecting to the network, so you have no service at all in Canada with a phone that cannot do 850. |
| 19:25.21 | meagain | mtn: doing anonymous pull; use -kKEYNAME if you need authentication mtn: connecting to monotone.openmoko.org mtn: network error: failed to connect: Verbinding is geweigerd |
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| 19:25.27 | cb22 | will someone please untie me from abraxa_'s chair? |
| 19:25.29 | cb22 | please? |
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| 19:25.45 | cb22 | anyone? |
| 19:26.00 | *** join/#openmoko summatusmentis_ (n=summatus@umm-yrless170.morris.umn.edu) |
| 19:26.44 | abraxa_ | No. |
| 19:26.54 | wibbit_ | cb22: what you tied down with? |
| 19:26.57 | wibbit_ | Any thing edible? |
| 19:26.58 | abraxa_ | And who said you're on a chair? |
| 19:26.59 | wurp2 | summatusmentis_: I use my 01 as my primary cell phone |
| 19:27.10 | CVirus | wurp2: battery ? |
| 19:27.24 | wurp2 | CVirus: I'm almost never away from a PC for more than 4 hours |
| 19:27.29 | CVirus | I see |
| 19:27.31 | summatusmentis | wurp2: I was thinking about purchasing an 01 when freerunner came out, but it doesn't support 850Mhz, which is crucial |
| 19:27.37 | wurp2 | CVirus: Except at home, and I just leave the phone at the pc |
| 19:27.40 | cb22 | uh oh |
| 19:27.49 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: If you're not in a metro area, it is |
| 19:27.51 | *** join/#openmoko playya_ (n=playya@pD9E08C63.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:27.54 | cb22 | notices abraxa_ standing in the corner holding a meat cleaver |
| 19:27.55 | duda | hai |
| 19:28.01 | duda | hi?? |
| 19:28.09 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: For me, no 850 has been no problem so far |
| 19:28.09 | summatusmentis | wurp2: I go to school in a town of 5k, when the college is in session |
| 19:28.13 | CVirus | hai, can i has stdio ? |
| 19:28.23 | abraxa_ | cb22: Don't look at me. Make josch help you. |
| 19:28.33 | josch | hum? |
| 19:28.37 | duda | stdio?? |
| 19:28.46 | duda | whazz that?? |
| 19:29.02 | cb22 | josch, help!!111111!!!11!!!1!!1!!! |
| 19:29.04 | josch | CVirus, hey cool give us moar lolcat! |
| 19:29.04 | summatusmentis | standard input output, I assume CVirus is referencing LOLCODE |
| 19:29.13 | CVirus | true |
| 19:29.23 | CVirus | um in yur loop, upping yur vars |
| 19:29.23 | cb22 | i can haz freedom plz? |
| 19:29.24 | CVirus | ROFL |
| 19:29.25 | josch | cb22, ha! you who threatened me with wearing girls stuff! |
| 19:29.34 | duda | anyone know about esetnod32?? |
| 19:29.38 | abraxa_ | .oO(Touche) |
| 19:29.39 | duda | pls help me |
| 19:29.48 | abraxa_ | duda: What about it? |
| 19:29.59 | duda | i want to instal it |
| 19:30.01 | josch | whats esetnod32?? |
| 19:30.12 | cb22 | IN MAI escape GIMME freedom |
| 19:30.12 | duda | but dont have the right serial |
| 19:30.21 | CVirus | ROFL |
| 19:30.21 | josch | -____- |
| 19:31.10 | wurp2 | duda: You want to install what where? |
| 19:31.10 | duda | its antivirus |
| 19:31.10 | summatusmentis | mickey|sports: FWIW, google is supposed to be releasing the second round of allocations tomorrow |
| 19:31.10 | duda | in my pc |
| 19:31.10 | cb22 | i'm upin ur moko channel asking about virus |
| 19:31.11 | josch | duda linux has no viruses - so dont bother |
| 19:31.11 | wurp2 | duda: I think you're in the wrong room |
| 19:31.11 | CVirus | echo "troll off" > duda |
| 19:31.11 | duda | ups |
| 19:31.11 | duda | is it linux?? |
| 19:31.11 | *** join/#openmoko Zword (n=Zword@bos94-3-82-226-234-106.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:31.11 | duda | iam newbie |
| 19:31.11 | duda | hehe |
| 19:31.11 | CVirus | ROFL |
| 19:31.11 | josch | hehe |
| 19:31.11 | duda | sory guys |
| 19:31.14 | josch | this evening is great |
| 19:31.20 | CVirus | I wonder how did you get here |
| 19:31.25 | duda | hehhe |
| 19:31.30 | duda | just install opera |
| 19:31.34 | duda | then click chat |
| 19:31.41 | duda | and here i am |
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| 19:31.43 | meagain | somebody who can help with my 'make setup' problem? |
| 19:31.48 | duda | am i bother u guys/?? |
| 19:31.52 | summatusmentis | opera doesn't default to #openmoko |
| 19:31.56 | duda | sory 4 that |
| 19:32.03 | duda | yups |
| 19:32.04 | cb22 | duda, /join #2,000 |
| 19:32.11 | cb22 | they can help there |
| 19:32.17 | wurp2 | duda: You're not bothering me... /ignore duda |
| 19:32.20 | duda | just random click i think |
| 19:32.23 | cb22 | wonders if it works on opera :p |
| 19:32.29 | *** part/#openmoko josch (n=josch@p57AD7BE6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:32.35 | cb22 | nooooo |
| 19:32.53 | duda | so??ur guys using linux ?? |
| 19:32.54 | *** join/#openmoko greentux_ (n=lemke@Z487f.z.pppool.de) |
| 19:32.57 | abraxa_ | duda: Well, NOD32 requires a serial number to do updates - so even if you use an illegal serial number it won't get you very far :) |
| 19:33.01 | *** part/#openmoko ajbrun (n=ajbrun@host86-160-73-138.range86-160.btcentralplus.com) |
| 19:33.10 | duda | is it?? |
| 19:33.10 | *** join/#openmoko josch (n=josch@p57AD7BE6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:33.12 | *** part/#openmoko summatusmentis (n=jts@velcro.morris.umn.edu) |
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| 19:33.14 | duda | ooohh.. |
| 19:33.20 | duda | i am using avg now |
| 19:33.22 | duda | is it good |
| 19:33.25 | abraxa_ | That's good |
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| 19:33.44 | duda | is this room for linux user?? |
| 19:33.48 | *** join/#openmoko summatusmentis (n=jts@velcro.morris.umn.edu) |
| 19:33.52 | duda | r u guys using linux?? |
| 19:33.52 | josch | duda, yepp |
| 19:34.01 | josch | duda, openmoko is a linux distribution |
| 19:34.06 | abraxa_ | Well... most here do use linux, yeah |
| 19:34.08 | drscream | hello everybody :) |
| 19:34.18 | duda | i never know linux |
| 19:34.19 | abraxa_ | OH NOES |
| 19:34.21 | summatusmentis | cb22: haet!!! |
| 19:34.23 | abraxa_ | Dr Scream! |
| 19:34.28 | josch | didnt bother for any viruses the past five years |
| 19:34.32 | duda | just windows xp |
| 19:34.34 | duda | heheh |
| 19:34.43 | duda | where do i find linux?? |
| 19:34.46 | unknown_lamer | sinner! |
| 19:34.47 | *** join/#openmoko ruoso (n=ruoso@81.84.156.87) |
| 19:34.48 | unknown_lamer | debian.org |
| 19:34.49 | cb22 | I USE FREEBSD!!1111!!!!! |
| 19:34.53 | josch | hehe |
| 19:34.59 | CVirus | why the fish are you guys feeding the troll ? |
| 19:35.01 | ajbrun | ubuntu tbh |
| 19:35.05 | edistar | freedos ftw |
| 19:35.05 | cb22 | freebsd > linux |
| 19:35.07 | unknown_lamer | man I last used Windows ... almost nine years ago |
| 19:35.08 | abraxa_ | tickles cb22 - quiet, you. |
| 19:35.09 | josch | CVirus, because its fun! |
| 19:35.09 | unknown_lamer | fuck I'm getting old |
| 19:35.10 | duda | debian.org?? |
| 19:35.18 | CVirus | duda: fuck off |
| 19:35.30 | cb22 | feeds duda |
| 19:35.32 | abraxa_ | CVirus: Benefit of the doubt |
| 19:35.40 | josch | spares some cookies for himself |
| 19:35.48 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: Ha! |
| 19:35.51 | duda | let me see debian.org |
| 19:35.51 | josch | feets cb22 with them |
| 19:35.51 | duda | tx |
| 19:36.08 | cb22 | abraxa_, unless you are hot, a girl, and between the ages of 15-18, you have no right tickling me :p |
| 19:36.26 | abraxa_ | cb22: Fine. *gets his wife to do it* |
| 19:36.31 | josch | cb22, then maybe my girlfriend meets your requirements? |
| 19:36.38 | unknown_lamer | god damn youngins |
| 19:36.43 | cb22 | josch, are you a pedo :p |
| 19:36.44 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: Offtopic lisp question: does lisp parse the unquote operators separately (e.g. ,,@) or does it just define a crapload of them - e.g. defining , ,@ ,,@ ,,,@ etc. |
| 19:36.53 | cb22 | abraxa_, you too :p |
| 19:37.07 | summatusmentis | cb22: how old are you? |
| 19:37.07 | josch | cb22, http://pedotest.com/ |
| 19:37.09 | unknown_lamer | wurp2: , and ,@ are reader macros so they are each parsed individually as it reaches them |
| 19:37.11 | abraxa_ | cb22: My wife's 25 but meets the other requirements just fine |
| 19:37.16 | cb22 | summatusmentis, 17 |
| 19:37.22 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03hepaajan * r177 10/trunk/software/gsmd2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:37.23 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Move to use session bus |
| 19:37.23 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: Refactor tests so that the weird process spawn problem goes away |
| 19:37.27 | summatusmentis | oh wow, here I thought I was young |
| 19:37.34 | cb22 | hehe |
| 19:37.44 | summatusmentis | 15? that's a tad young for a 17 year old... |
| 19:37.46 | josch | thought so too... :-/ |
| 19:37.47 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: but I see ,,@ being used. Defining each of those character combos sounds stupid, but I can't see how normal lisp parsing would see them separately |
| 19:37.50 | summatusmentis | also illegal in a lot of states |
| 19:37.57 | CVirus | cb22: what do you study ? |
| 19:38.03 | cb22 | summatusmentis, well here in south africa... |
| 19:38.14 | summatusmentis | lol, ok, no illegality, but still |
| 19:38.19 | unknown_lamer | wurp2: the reader looks for , then sees if it is followed by @ and if not does a normal dequote |
| 19:38.19 | josch | summatusmentis, http://xkcd.com/314/ |
| 19:38.23 | cb22 | its illegal to even kiss someone below 16 :( |
| 19:38.29 | summatusmentis | is it? |
| 19:38.38 | unknown_lamer | 17 and 15 is not illegal in most of the US |
| 19:38.39 | wurp2 | summatusmentis, josch: AFAIK there is no law about being tickled, regardless of age of tickler or ticklee |
| 19:38.54 | josch | hehe |
| 19:39.00 | abraxa_ | Thank you, wurp2. |
| 19:39.04 | summatusmentis | wurp2: fair enough |
| 19:39.14 | cb22 | summatusmentis, just turned 17 |
| 19:39.16 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: Oh, so it's not treated like regular identifiers - it's a special case |
| 19:39.17 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: yeah it is, age of consent is usually 16 |
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| 19:39.19 | cb22 | so 15 is still fine :p |
| 19:39.22 | CVirus | cb22: what do you study ? |
| 19:39.32 | cb22 | CVirus, still in high school |
| 19:39.40 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: there is generally a +/- 2 or 3 years provision |
| 19:39.44 | summatusmentis | josch: as much as I take the word of xkcd as absolute truth, but I'm not sure I'm agreeing w/ that |
| 19:39.54 | josch | :P |
| 19:40.01 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: yes, but doesn't age of consent trump? |
| 19:40.04 | unknown_lamer | wurp2: sort of -- it is a reader macro |
| 19:40.20 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: no the age of consent laws are qualified by the +/- 2 or 3 years |
| 19:40.26 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: Ah, I dunno nothing about reader macros. I'll read up. Thanks! |
| 19:40.36 | summatusmentis | hmm, I I guess i'm confused |
| 19:40.50 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: That seems the only sane way to deal with it. I wasn't aware the laws on that were sane, though. |
| 19:40.55 | unknown_lamer | wurp2: reader macros are nice you can use them to create all sorts of neat syntax extensions (e.g. CLSQL uses [] to delimit SQL expression and stuff) |
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| 19:41.42 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: I was under the impression that 17 and 15 would not be allowed, but 16 and 18 would be |
| 19:41.51 | summatusmentis | because 15 would be under the 16 year cut off |
| 19:41.51 | cb22 | notes that it is illegal for him to kiss his girlfriend |
| 19:42.02 | ajbrun | pwned tbh |
| 19:42.08 | summatusmentis | cb22: good luck kissing her when you're tied to a chair |
| 19:42.09 | CVirus | am I in /b/ ? |
| 19:42.16 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: nope you ought to read these laws for your state they might be important to know :-) |
| 19:42.16 | josch | CVirus, hahaha |
| 19:42.19 | summatusmentis | CVirus: don't you wish you were? |
| 19:42.19 | josch | desu? |
| 19:42.22 | CVirus | 17 ? 15 ? |
| 19:42.31 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: It sounds as if the +/- 2 year loophole is to avoid the idiotic case of people with one day difference in age being illegal |
| 19:42.32 | CVirus | I'll pretend you said 18 :-p |
| 19:42.41 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: I'm 19, and I have a sister who's 16, anyone closer in age to her than me creeps me out |
| 19:42.47 | wurp2 | (and the idiotic case of 2 yr difference) |
| 19:43.00 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: you want to talk about weird -- the girl I'm kind of dating now is one day older than my sister |
| 19:43.06 | cb22 | my gf is 1 year 1 day younger then me |
| 19:43.09 | summatusmentis | isn't that really awkward? |
| 19:43.09 | cb22 | exactly |
| 19:43.29 | cb22 | eh, i cant count |
| 19:43.40 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: I don't get why that would be awkward |
| 19:43.57 | summatusmentis | wurp2: I don't know, I feel like it'd be awkward for me |
| 19:44.05 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: If you had one sister one year older than you, and one one year younger, would you only date ppl within 1 yr of your age? |
| 19:44.05 | summatusmentis | maybe other people feel differently |
| 19:44.14 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: Of course, some of that comes from me being old ;-) |
| 19:44.22 | summatusmentis | wurp2: at my age, yes |
| 19:44.26 | cb22 | laffs at the older people |
| 19:44.29 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: A 1 year difference is nothing percentage-wise for me ;-) |
| 19:44.36 | summatusmentis | lol |
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| 19:45.15 | unknown_lamer | bah this talk has reminded me that I need to get my beard trimmed lest there be complaints |
| 19:45.22 | macdonalder | heh |
| 19:45.43 | cb22 | /b/ is now in session |
| 19:45.58 | summatusmentis | please no, I don't like 4chan |
| 19:46.11 | unknown_lamer | why in my day we read k5 are were happy |
| 19:46.20 | zedstar_ | never seen so many beards in one room until last night when i was at the london unix user group meeting lol |
| 19:46.29 | josch | lol |
| 19:46.32 | cb22 | haha |
| 19:46.35 | summatusmentis | you also had to walk backward uphill in a snowstorm, unknown_lamer |
| 19:46.46 | CM | hehe |
| 19:46.55 | summatusmentis | so 'your day' is outdated, stick w/ the times |
| 19:47.13 | summatusmentis | we don't have hills anymore :-D |
| 19:47.39 | unknown_lamer | but I like climbing hills :-( |
| 19:47.56 | unknown_lamer | Unless you have a wizard beard like me you are not allowed to cast mountains from the face of the Earth |
| 19:47.59 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: I remember you from k5 ;-) |
| 19:48.04 | cb22 | the only hills here are the proverbial ones |
| 19:48.11 | unknown_lamer | wurp2: ! |
| 19:48.34 | duda | kk |
| 19:48.38 | duda | bye guys |
| 19:48.42 | duda | c ya round |
| 19:48.47 | summatusmentis | toodles |
| 19:48.54 | cb22 | ciao ciao |
| 19:48.58 | wurp2 | unknown_lamer: I don't remember anything specific, just the nym |
| 19:49.09 | unknown_lamer | ah good I was a bit ... lame back in the day |
| 19:49.16 | wurp2 | heh |
| 19:50.22 | summatusmentis | is still lame |
| 19:50.46 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: the solution is to grow a beard, get a bicycle, and drink 9% double IPAs |
| 19:50.52 | unknown_lamer | and learn Common Lisp |
| 19:50.57 | summatusmentis | I can't grow a beard... :-P |
| 19:51.04 | unknown_lamer | or maybe SML if you want to be current with modern trends |
| 19:51.11 | cb22 | (((((((((((((((((((((you can)))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
| 19:51.35 | unknown_lamer | cb22: tsk tsk five too many closing parens |
| 19:51.57 | cb22 | does it matter in the bigger SCHEME of things? |
| 19:52.01 | cb22 | :p |
| 19:52.02 | unknown_lamer | hur hur |
| 19:52.11 | mwester | was playing with UNIX back when dirt was first invented, he's so old. |
| 19:52.31 | cb22 | has used freebsd for 6 years |
| 19:52.33 | summatusmentis | we don't have dirt anymore either |
| 19:52.33 | zedstar_ | is pretty old but acts like a kid |
| 19:52.42 | mwester | Not proper dirt, anyway! |
| 19:52.55 | summatusmentis | dirt is so 2 years ago, seriously |
| 19:53.00 | mwester | Why, I remember dirt. When I was young... |
| 19:53.00 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: you might want to wander in the woods for a while as I'm pretty sure these things still exist |
| 19:53.00 | wurp2 | freebsd would be great if it used the right license |
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| 19:53.09 | josch | man dirt |
| 19:53.13 | cb22 | sighs |
| 19:53.13 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: woods? I don't think we have those either |
| 19:53.23 | cb22 | wurp2, oooh, licence flamewar,go go go!!! |
| 19:53.28 | unknown_lamer | my oh my things have changed since yesterday |
| 19:53.40 | unknown_lamer | does this mean my hiking adventure with the sort-of-woman are going to fail this weekend? |
| 19:53.51 | summatusmentis | sort-of-woman? |
| 19:54.02 | wurp2 | cb22: Nah, that's all I had to say about that. I just wanted to see who'd bite ;-) |
| 19:54.15 | mwester | woods? O let me tell you about the woods when I was young. We used to have to carry pointy sticks to fight off the wolves in the woods on our way to school when I was young... uphill of course. Both ways. |
| 19:54.25 | josch | wurp2, too many gpl lovers in here for that... |
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| 19:54.31 | summatusmentis | was there snow grampy mwester? |
| 19:54.37 | cb22 | gpl is evil!!1111!!! |
| 19:54.38 | unknown_lamer | I have an amusingly depressing situation with a female (I like you -- I like you too -- I am afraid of dating touching is scary anxiety anxiety rabble rabble etc) |
| 19:54.57 | mwester | Oh let me tell you about the snow! We had proper snow back then, not like this stuff now-a-days... |
| 19:55.03 | summatusmentis | oh, which of you is afraid of dating/touching being scary? |
| 19:55.13 | cb22 | likes his situation |
| 19:55.19 | josch | too |
| 19:55.22 | summatusmentis | grampy mwester: tell me more about snow!! |
| 19:55.36 | cb22 | guy> i like you. girl> i like you too. guy> lets make out. girl> sure |
| 19:55.44 | josch | cb22, makes himself comfortable just beside cb22 's chair |
| 19:55.51 | unknown_lamer | cb22: hey there was let's make out before oh no I have emotional problems |
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| 19:56.12 | cb22 | or the oh wait i'm 17 and pregnant :/ |
| 19:56.13 | josch | http://xkcd.com/300/ |
| 19:56.49 | josch | ist neither 17 nor pregnant :-D |
| 19:57.00 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: well, you at least see your sort-of-woman, so that's one up on me :) |
| 19:57.09 | summatusmentis | josch: me neither, imagine that |
| 19:57.19 | josch | imagines that |
| 19:57.27 | summatusmentis | lol |
| 19:57.29 | cb22 | josch, i've never seen a 17 year old pregnant man O-o |
| 19:57.43 | unknown_lamer | summatusmentis: maybe sometimes nothing is better than j;lsdjf;ldsjf;ljdsfwtf |
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| 19:58.06 | summatusmentis | unknown_lamer: perhaps. |
| 19:58.10 | unknown_lamer | it distracts me from programming and whatnot and is generally keeping me from being as productive as I ought to be |
| 19:58.22 | summatusmentis | women in general do that :) |
| 19:58.30 | josch | seconded |
| 19:58.40 | zedstar_ | wait til u have kids! |
| 19:58.49 | summatusmentis | is NEVER having kdis |
| 19:58.52 | CM | zedstar_: Hehe.. Don't scare us too much |
| 19:58.56 | cb22 | me neither |
| 19:58.56 | josch | zedstar_, what for should i ever have those?? :P |
| 19:58.59 | cb22 | my wife can have the kids |
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| 19:59.10 | josch | right |
| 19:59.19 | josch | absurd... |
| 19:59.24 | josch | me and having kids... |
| 19:59.25 | summatusmentis | hunh uh... no kids |
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| 19:59.39 | josch | did you ever see a 20 your old pregnant josch? |
| 19:59.43 | Ganneff | umm. now. what does this have to do with openmoko? :) |
| 19:59.54 | summatusmentis | we're just talking about future customers |
| 19:59.59 | josch | right |
| 20:00.00 | CM | hehe |
| 20:00.03 | Ganneff | suuure. |
| 20:00.07 | josch | about customer production |
| 20:00.10 | quicksand | WHAT? GET OFF MY LAWN! |
| 20:00.13 | drscream | Ganneff: with the openmoko you can phone with the 20 your old pregnant josch :P |
| 20:00.17 | josch | we are in alpha stage atm |
| 20:00.21 | abraxa_ | Ganneff: Openmoko makes you happy! You're so busy with it that you won't reproduce! |
| 20:00.26 | Ganneff | now, talk about them elsewhere. please. |
| 20:00.29 | Ganneff | thanks. |
| 20:00.53 | Ganneff | (or talk about an actual openmoko thing, thats also fine :) ) |
| 20:01.08 | josch | i'm sure everybody here would shut up if a serious question occurs - right guys? |
| 20:01.09 | cb22 | Ganneff, how do you think this started |
| 20:01.12 | unknown_lamer | Mucking about the eabi spec looking up information on the stack layout and whatnot made me forget to call the sort-of-woman |
| 20:01.28 | josch | cb22, it started with... |
| 20:01.30 | josch | \o/ |
| 20:01.30 | cb22 | we are talking about josch's girlfriend wearing an om camisole :p |
| 20:01.38 | unknown_lamer | Who needs a sort-of-woman when you can hack ARM assembly and port a Lisp system! |
| 20:01.45 | cb22 | boo |
| 20:01.54 | cb22 | that was like a monobo |
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| 20:02.42 | abraxa_ | unknown_lamer: What's a sort-of-woman? |
| 20:02.50 | cb22 | a pre-op :p? |
| 20:02.52 | josch | abraxa_, he explained above |
| 20:02.56 | wurp2 | Ist Josch Deutchlander? |
| 20:03.01 | josch | wurp2, -.- |
| 20:03.02 | zedstar_ | cb22 lol |
| 20:03.19 | summatusmentis | wurp2: keine duetsch!! |
| 20:03.20 | abraxa_ | josch: "above" is like... so many lines up I'd think it was yesterday |
| 20:03.25 | wurp2 | I notice a fair # of ppl in here have the typo of occasionally adding a 't' to 'is' |
| 20:03.29 | josch | wurp2, Deutschländer is a special brand of sausages |
| 20:03.35 | wurp2 | awesome |
| 20:03.45 | cb22 | tasty |
| 20:03.50 | josch | wurp2, oh... ^^ |
| 20:04.01 | CM | bratwurst ftw |
| 20:04.04 | summatusmentis | oh geez, one semester of german, and i can't even spell deutsch correctly |
| 20:04.16 | wurp2 | So what's the German word for a German person? |
| 20:04.27 | stevecrozz | frankfurtur |
| 20:04.33 | josch | Deutscher (masculine) or Deutsche (feminine) |
| 20:04.33 | cb22 | has a hot german friend |
| 20:04.34 | unknown_lamer | abraxa_: explained above to summatusmentis |
| 20:04.39 | CM | hehe |
| 20:04.39 | stevecrozz | hamburger? |
| 20:04.47 | baze | cheeseburger |
| 20:04.58 | summatusmentis | abraxa_: (02:54:38 PM) unknown_lamer: I have an amusingly depressing situation with a female (I like you -- I like you too -- I am afraid of dating touching is scary anxiety anxiety rabble rabble etc) |
| 20:05.03 | unknown_lamer | curse this EABI stuff |
| 20:05.09 | Ganneff | *cough* |
| 20:05.11 | josch | i can has cheeseburger!! |
| 20:05.21 | unknown_lamer | why must you be so much better than OABI and force me to hack on clisp instead of just cross compiling and living happily ever after |
| 20:05.29 | summatusmentis | Ganneff: do you mentor for GSoC? |
| 20:05.34 | Ganneff | no. |
| 20:05.40 | summatusmentis | hmm |
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| 20:06.01 | summatusmentis | Ganneff: do you know when FreeRunner will be available? |
| 20:06.09 | Ganneff | no |
| 20:06.09 | summatusmentis | :-D |
| 20:06.13 | summatusmentis | oh, ok |
| 20:06.16 | josch | lol back to openmoko?? |
| 20:06.19 | summatusmentis | I figured I'd ask |
| 20:06.23 | zedstar_ | if his name was Gandalf he might |
| 20:06.42 | josch | lol |
| 20:07.03 | abraxa_ | unknown_lamer: "amusingly depressing situation" - I wonder how *that* works |
| 20:07.29 | abraxa_ | "oh crap, I'm so depressed =(" - "Oh wow, that's funny!" |
| 20:07.42 | wurp2 | abraxa_: It's a "laugh to keep from crying" situation ;-) |
| 20:08.13 | cb22 | EMO KIDS!!!111!!!1!111 |
| 20:08.34 | unknown_lamer | abraxa_: the absurdity of it all is a bit amusing |
| 20:09.05 | josch | cb22, emo said the guy who is tied to a chair... |
| 20:09.13 | summatusmentis | :D |
| 20:09.46 | unknown_lamer | you must all suffer the penance of learn ARM assembler for this terribly off topic conversation |
| 20:10.01 | abraxa_ | unknown_lamer: It would only be amusing to me if she turned you on, almost goes all the way and then gives you cold turkey. Then someone could come and say "told you so!". And well, that would be me then ;) |
| 20:10.19 | josch | abraxa_, meany ^^ |
| 20:10.22 | unknown_lamer | and fixing an openomoko bug |
| 20:10.45 | abraxa_ | josch: Reality is harsh, I didn't invent it |
| 20:10.50 | josch | hehe |
| 20:10.55 | abraxa_ | If I had I would've done lots of things differently |
| 20:11.06 | abraxa_ | ScaredyCat would be a girl, for example. |
| 20:11.12 | josch | hahahaha |
| 20:11.15 | josch | ScaredyCat, :P |
| 20:11.29 | unknown_lamer | farewell you damn kids stay off my lawn while I'm gone |
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| 20:11.58 | abraxa_ | Take care, unknown lamer |
| 20:12.14 | abraxa_ | .oO(That would odd to hear someone say...) |
| 20:12.15 | josch | take care of your lawn |
| 20:12.18 | abraxa_ | +be |
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| 20:12.36 | summatusmentis | should've been listening to his prof |
| 20:13.41 | cb22 | tries to get out the chair |
| 20:14.35 | josch | switches on the next episode of babylon 5 while getting a new load of chips! |
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| 20:16.07 | abraxa_ | releases cb22, full of frustration =( |
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| 20:16.13 | abraxa_ | josch is so mean to me |
| 20:16.15 | cb22 | yay! |
| 20:16.51 | josch | darn he is free again |
| 20:16.56 | cb22 | freedom! |
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| 20:18.08 | josch | now cb22 is free as in freedom not as in free beer... |
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| 20:18.15 | josch | hrm... |
| 20:18.18 | josch | free beer... |
| 20:18.26 | josch | switches on the next episode of babylon 5 while getting a new load of free beer |
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| 20:23.02 | abraxa_ | wonders if josch will still be busy watching Babylon 5 when his g/f comes around |
| 20:24.06 | cb22 | tells josch to watch his gf with abraxa_ and his rope skills |
| 20:24.14 | josch | abraxa_, unfortunately she is in rome giving concerts... :-( |
| 20:24.25 | cb22 | giving concerts? |
| 20:24.32 | josch | cb22, dont tell him about abraxas garden of... |
| 20:24.45 | josch | cb22, yeah she plays trumpet in an orchestra |
| 20:24.48 | abraxa_ | lol. |
| 20:24.52 | abraxa_ | That page is not mine =( |
| 20:25.00 | cb22 | sure... |
| 20:25.04 | josch | he tells us this everytime... |
| 20:25.31 | abraxa_ | I'm not a sadist |
| 20:25.37 | abraxa_ | If I were, cb22 would have stab wounds |
| 20:25.37 | abraxa_ | :D |
| 20:25.47 | josch | -__- |
| 20:26.04 | abraxa_ | What?! Just saying =( |
| 20:26.18 | cb22 | runs away |
| 20:26.29 | josch | runs in the other direction |
| 20:26.52 | abraxa_ | skitters over into the channel's corner and cries. |
| 20:26.54 | macdonalder | wanders around wondering what just happened |
| 20:27.14 | cb22 | takes away abraxa_'s robe and wizard hat |
| 20:27.20 | abraxa_ | ! |
| 20:27.24 | macdonalder | hehe |
| 20:27.25 | josch | LOVES having insider jokes ^^ |
| 20:27.48 | abraxa_ | cb22. What would YOU need them for. |
| 20:27.59 | abraxa_ | You wanna give your girl even more mental scars?! |
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| 20:28.53 | cb22 | abraxa_, my girl has no scars, i dont play that way :p |
| 20:29.37 | abraxa_ | cb22: But... but... you said... no touchy... and... all |
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| 20:30.17 | wurp2 | gtg, too much offtopic traffic :-) |
| 20:30.42 | abraxa_ | .oO(Says the one who wanted to talk about Lisp) |
| 20:31.11 | josch | hehe |
| 20:31.31 | josch | abraxa_, in fact you can use lisp with openmoko :P |
| 20:31.31 | cb22 | abraxa_, touchy touchy |
| 20:31.32 | josch | but |
| 20:31.41 | josch | i also can use my girlfriend with openmoko |
| 20:31.48 | josch | (as we I will prove) |
| 20:31.49 | abraxa_ | Uh-oh |
| 20:32.04 | cb22 | openmokogirl? |
| 20:32.51 | josch | okay now rly of to tv |
| 20:32.57 | abraxa_ | Enjoy |
| 20:33.00 | josch | :-) |
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| 20:33.04 | abraxa_ | goes back to boring work =( |
| 20:33.12 | cb22 | goes back to tv |
| 20:33.13 | ritztech | whats a good general chat room for new 3.5g phones |
| 20:33.16 | josch | had great time this evening - later guys |
| 20:33.21 | cb22 | oh wait, im watching it already :p |
| 20:33.33 | cb22 | tv + eee == win |
| 20:33.38 | josch | cb22, me too but not fullscreen ^^ |
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| 20:34.16 | abraxa_ | ritztech: No clue, sorry |
| 20:35.18 | Cthobs | Anyone know why monotone.openmoko.org is currently refusing connections? |
| 20:35.37 | summatusmentis | Cthobs: no, I was wondering that earlier |
| 20:36.38 | abraxa_ | roh: Do you know anything about that problem? |
| 20:45.01 | ccfly | bye |
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| 20:45.28 | unknown_lamer | abraxa_: lisp won't be off topic once I get clisp building properly |
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| 20:45.56 | unknown_lamer | abraxa_: afterward we can have python versus CL wars worthy of being written about by ancient bards |
| 20:46.51 | abraxa_ | Bards from the past will write about an epic Python vs Lisp war that is going to happen when (if) you get it to build |
| 20:46.56 | abraxa_ | Something there seems fishy |
| 20:48.30 | cb22 | place your brackets carefully unknown_lamer, for our whitespace shall defeat you! |
| 20:48.47 | quicksand | abraxa_: will have written |
| 20:49.43 | abraxa_ | quicksand: Or that |
| 20:49.43 | cb22 | from weapons import chainsaw, 50cal |
| 20:50.00 | cb22 | class ChainGun(chiansaw, 50cal): |
| 20:50.11 | cb22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.21 | cb22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.21 | zedstar_ | use Scheme at least it runs on the Neo already ;P |
| 20:50.27 | cb22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.59 | cb22 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.53 | CIA-41 | freesmartphone.org: 03emdete * r178 10/trunk/software/pyneod/ (5 files in 2 dirs): add several unsol. messages like cipher-state, signal quality, gprs state, ... |
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| 20:53.57 | unknown_lamer | abraxa_: it builds mostly now but the ffi is somewhat broken |
| 20:54.16 | unknown_lamer | abraxa_: and there is no generational gc which is not so nice but not a showstopper |
| 20:55.04 | abraxa_ | I understand. We all go through these problems sometimes. |
| 20:55.07 | abraxa_ | Everything will be well. |
| 20:55.46 | unknown_lamer | the ffi is kin of important to get gtk bindings and such |
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| 20:56.53 | abraxa_ | Hope you get it fixed then :) |
| 20:57.09 | abraxa_ | has no idea what else to say as he doesn't use Lisp |
| 20:57.44 | cb22 | ((((((((((good_luck)))))))))) |
| 20:58.05 | josch | http://xkcd.com/224/ |
| 20:58.10 | josch | perl >> lisp |
| 20:58.51 | cb22 | python >> perl |
| 20:58.54 | cb22 | http://xkcd.com/353/ |
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| 21:02.03 | cb22 | pokes josch with a stick |
| 21:03.19 | josch | pokes back several times |
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| 21:03.50 | cb22 | should start reading less xkcd |
| 21:04.31 | josch | should start learning more xkcd comics by hard |
| 21:08.54 | abraxa_ | runs away with the e and t he stole from josch |
| 21:09.21 | pH5 | abraxa_: at least you left a d |
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| 21:09.49 | abraxa_ | The letters were too big - could only hold one in each hand =( |
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| 21:10.12 | josch | you guys are mean... :-( |
| 21:10.37 | cb22 | nah, abraxa_ is the mean one |
| 21:10.50 | abraxa_ | See! See! Mean! Not sadistic! |
| 21:10.53 | josch | abraxa_, is now known as mean abraxa... |
| 21:10.53 | cb22 | mean, master, they are all codenames you know |
| 21:12.00 | pH5 | oh wow, this was my contribution to the channel today :/ |
| 21:12.04 | pH5 | good night everyone |
| 21:14.49 | summatusmentis | what is up w/ you people? |
| 21:15.14 | cb22 | you people?????/ |
| 21:15.21 | summatusmentis | did we ever figure out why monotone.opemoko.org was refusing connections? |
| 21:15.32 | summatusmentis | cb22: yeah, you and abraxa_ both :) |
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| 21:15.42 | macdonalder | summatusmentis: I don't believe so |
| 21:15.43 | abraxa_ | My mean-ness transcended into the server. |
| 21:15.52 | macdonalder | or yeah, that |
| 21:16.05 | cb22 | needs a hug :( |
| 21:16.09 | summatusmentis | abraxa_: take your mean-ness back |
| 21:16.11 | summatusmentis | hugs cb22 |
| 21:16.11 | cb22 | NOT FROM ANY OF YOU THOUGH |
| 21:16.21 | summatusmentis | O\_/O |
| 21:17.15 | abraxa_ | cb22: http://imagebin.ca/view/icuaQc.html ? |
| 21:17.57 | cb22 | loll |
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| 21:31.55 | josch | abraxa_, this rounds up this evening pretty good :-D |
| 21:32.15 | abraxa_ | hehe ;) |
| 21:32.22 | josch | and hear what summatusmentis said: you two are the scary ones! not josch! |
| 21:32.37 | cb22 | josch, he implied you |
| 21:32.46 | josch | <summatusmentis> cb22: yeah, you and abraxa_ both :) |
| 21:32.47 | cb22 | because you and abraxa_ are really a couple :x |
| 21:32.50 | josch | hahaa! \o/ |
| 21:33.08 | abraxa_ | cb22: Don't let my wife know you said that |
| 21:33.13 | cb22 | /o\ |
| 21:33.20 | josch | cb22, right you can see me on those pixx abraxa_ showed us recently |
| 21:33.27 | quicksand | Get a room, guys. |
| 21:33.27 | josch | I'm only spelled differently |
| 21:33.28 | abraxa_ | rofl |
| 21:33.43 | josch | abraxa_, tell them about josh! |
| 21:33.46 | cb22 | bwahaha |
| 21:33.54 | abraxa_ | quicksand: We *are* in a room: #openmoko. |
| 21:34.06 | quicksand | Unfortunately for me, I'm in it too. |
| 21:34.07 | josch | in a room with a lot of others!! \o/ |
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| 21:34.16 | cb22 | lol |
| 21:34.23 | josch | hugs quicksand |
| 21:34.28 | abraxa_ | quicksand: Are we distracting you? |
| 21:34.52 | quicksand | From work? Yes. From anything useful? Uh . . . |
| 21:35.02 | josch | good, good |
| 21:35.09 | josch | carry on then... ^^ |
| 21:35.16 | cb22 | tsk tsk for the whole world to know: abraxa_'s nsfw website: http://abraxa.darklands.cx/ |
| 21:35.33 | abraxa_ | =*( |
| 21:35.52 | abraxa_ | That guy doesn't even look anything like me! |
| 21:36.04 | cb22 | _sure_ |
| 21:36.07 | cb22 | thats what they all say |
| 21:36.08 | quicksand | I thought he was Santana's second album. |
| 21:37.35 | abraxa_ | josch is so mean... he blames me for not being productive =( |
| 21:37.44 | josch | well... |
| 21:37.46 | cb22 | re-? |
| 21:37.53 | josch | it's true isnt it? :P |
| 21:38.30 | abraxa_ | Nu! |
| 21:38.35 | abraxa_ | It's Babylon 5! |
| 21:39.22 | josch | nah... |
| 21:39.24 | josch | long over... |
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| 21:41.37 | cb22 | brb |
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| 21:46.53 | cb22 | yay! my eee keyboard works again |
| 21:47.38 | josch | \o/ |
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| 21:47.49 | josch | opens up a new beer and cheers to cb22 |
| 21:48.11 | cb22 | mmm beer |
| 21:48.42 | josch | campai!! |
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| 21:55.56 | cb22 | need to disconnect the interwebz to let my 3g phone charge :/ |
| 21:55.58 | cb22 | night all |
| 21:59.29 | josch | oh... he's gone abraxa_ |
| 22:00.01 | josch | time for bed then :-( |
| 22:00.10 | josch | gnight openmoko folks!! :-D |
| 22:00.12 | josch | \o/ |
| 22:00.16 | abraxa_ | Last man standing! I win! |
| 22:01.20 | josch | today you win infidel! but i will return!! i will return!!!! I... |
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| 22:08.41 | ahven | abraxa_: thats what you think ;) |
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| 23:28.42 | summatusmentis | hi all |
| 23:29.17 | summatusmentis | anyone know what OM is doing w/ their 01's that were modified for the 850Mhz spectrum |
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| 23:43.41 | Aioria21 | Enter text here...hola |
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