| 00:05.57 | Tanuva | ookay. just downloaded the prebuilt image and added your u-boot image and it just works. |
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| 00:39.30 | hippieindamakin8 | i am interested in GSOC is there anybody here with whom i can discuss it |
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| 00:40.27 | edistar|zzZZZzzZ | hippieindamakin8: mickeyl |
| 00:40.37 | hippieindamakin8 | thanks |
| 00:49.38 | hippieindamakin8 | I am interested in that accelerometer gestures project |
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| 03:00.36 | mwester | Gack! My neo rings! |
| 03:00.50 | mwester | Has three new SMS messages... |
| 03:01.02 | mwester | And registered with the network... |
| 03:01.18 | Tronic | OMG. |
| 03:02.33 | madwoota | wonders if mwester picked up his iPhone by mistake |
| 03:07.24 | holycow | touche |
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| 04:14.12 | niklauz | are they expecting pre-alpha software on release? (per chan topic) |
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| 06:33.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1290 has been created by tick(AT)openmoko.com |
| 06:33.03 | cdbot2 | * * Wrong package status of packagekit. |
| 06:33.05 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1290 |
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| 07:33.19 | rtm | Is the neo2973 backlit by LEDs? |
| 07:33.55 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 07:33.58 | SpeedEvil | 1973 |
| 07:34.06 | rtm | Thanks! |
| 07:34.19 | SpeedEvil | all phones now are |
| 07:34.39 | rtm | I didn't know that. But it certainly makes sense. |
| 07:34.47 | SpeedEvil | it was only the very earlies colour small LCDs that used fluorescnt tubes |
| 07:34.53 | SpeedEvil | as white LEDs diddn't exist |
| 07:35.23 | holycow | interesting |
| 07:35.41 | holycow | is this new just for moko or the whole industry is doing it now? |
| 07:35.49 | rtm | SO they should not fade in brightness as quickly as laptop backlights do, right? |
| 07:35.53 | SpeedEvil | it's 100% in all mobile phones |
| 07:36.01 | SpeedEvil | maybe not quite that in laptops |
| 07:36.05 | holycow | how recent is this? |
| 07:36.37 | SpeedEvil | mobile phones - 4-5 years? I'm unsure that any colour phones actually used backlight tubes |
| 07:36.47 | holycow | aha |
| 07:36.49 | holycow | danke |
| 07:36.55 | gopi | It's much newer in laptops. |
| 07:36.56 | SpeedEvil | Laptops a bit more recent. |
| 07:37.00 | gopi | Many laptops don't use LEDs. |
| 07:37.22 | gopi | iirc, first Apple laptops with LEDs were within the last year. |
| 07:37.33 | SpeedEvil | And many still don't |
| 07:37.41 | holycow | *nod* |
| 07:37.46 | SpeedEvil | the LEDs for the backlight still cost maybe $15 or so? |
| 07:38.04 | SpeedEvil | tubes are cheaper, and easier to work with optically |
| 07:38.24 | rtm | But they fade more quickly than LEDs, don't they? |
| 07:39.08 | SpeedEvil | Well... |
| 07:39.11 | SpeedEvil | Not really |
| 07:39.31 | gopi | How quickly do LEDs fade? |
| 07:39.33 | SpeedEvil | If properly specced and driven, they will not fade appreciably in 10000 hours |
| 07:39.54 | SpeedEvil | Again, that's a hard question. Cheap LEDs or ones designed for short life - 1-10h |
| 07:40.22 | SpeedEvil | REaasonbable ones can have specs as 75% lumen maintainance at 75000 hours |
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| 07:41.20 | SpeedEvil | dealing with the heat is a big problem with LEDs |
| 07:41.34 | SpeedEvil | if they get to 70C or so, their life tends to plummet |
| 07:41.57 | SpeedEvil | power LEDs |
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| 07:42.18 | rtm | I've always hoped the Freerunner would have a fan... |
| 07:42.44 | holycow | i'm not sure that would fly on a phone |
| 07:43.01 | rtm | If it spun fast enough it could. |
| 07:43.23 | holycow | :) |
| 07:43.27 | holycow | nite all |
| 07:45.51 | rtm | Does anyone know if someone is working on porting a good RPN calculator, preferably an emulated HP, to the openmoko platform? |
| 07:46.43 | SpeedEvil | You have dc :) |
| 07:47.04 | SpeedEvil | or xcalc -rpn |
| 07:47.18 | SpeedEvil | In this mode the calculator will look and behave like an |
| 07:47.20 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:48.13 | rtm | Thanks, I'll look at that. There's an excellent HP emulator for Treos (free!), and I love it. |
| 07:49.00 | SpeedEvil | but that's probably not very good - I don't know |
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| 07:49.26 | SpeedEvil | And it's certainly not pretty |
| 07:51.46 | rtm | You're right! |
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| 10:08.47 | Steve_Jobs | I love my new Zune. |
| 10:09.02 | kinneh | hehe |
| 10:09.09 | Steve_Jobs | It works so beautifully with Vista, which is insanely great. |
| 10:09.22 | kinneh | Steve_Jobs: |
| 10:09.32 | kinneh | you so crazy |
| 10:10.20 | Steve_Jobs | If only my Zune ran BeOS, then I would be in heaven. |
| 10:10.51 | Steve_Jobs | Playing PS3 games would be a nice touch too. |
| 10:12.42 | Any_Key | morning is anybody know how to solve "qemu: fatal: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x00000000" when i'm trying to flash qemu-local? |
| 10:12.42 | ScaredyCat | torpor: ping |
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| 10:16.17 | Any_Key | i'm using Debian sid on x86x32 if it's matter |
| 10:16.53 | Steve_Jobs | Any_Key: Android should help with that. |
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| 10:18.13 | Any_Key | Steve_Jobs, speaking politely go find yourself something to do. |
| 10:21.51 | Steve_Jobs | Like ordering a tab? |
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| 10:52.10 | goxboxlive | pH5: you know everything, do you know how i can fix this: http://pastebin.no/3522 |
| 10:53.24 | pH5 | goxboxlive: mtn pull && mtn update, I fixed this yesterday |
| 10:53.51 | pH5 | http://amethyst.openembedded.net/oe/viewmtn/viewmtn.py/revision/info/f1f02c875914c0bfe542289381d12559c4843ff7 |
| 10:54.03 | goxboxlive | pH5: hmm, i did a pull today. I'll do it again (YFI i am building with Angstrom,not openmoko distro) |
| 10:54.41 | pH5 | goxboxlive: right, it's my fault |
| 10:54.49 | pH5 | I forgot to bump the glib-2.0 revision |
| 10:55.02 | goxboxlive | :-) |
| 10:55.14 | pH5 | wait a minute, I'll do that now |
| 10:55.19 | goxboxlive | thx pH5 |
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| 11:10.37 | LuitvD | hi all |
| 11:10.48 | LuitvD | (been a while since I've been here...) |
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| 11:12.59 | ajbrun | lo |
| 11:13.19 | ajbrun | almost exactly a month now since the last community update :( |
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| 11:14.12 | LuitvD | any more info on the GSoC projects, apart from the info on the wiki? |
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| 11:22.46 | balrog-kun | what kind of info are you missing on the wiki? |
| 11:23.13 | ajbrun | a "we're all still alive" would be nice |
| 11:23.59 | LuitvD | balrog-kun: not specifically missing something... just want to know if I've got something to read up to |
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| 11:49.47 | Any_Key | is anybody have issue with make flash-qemu like this? http://pastebin.com/m55e0ddaa |
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| 12:20.49 | balrog-kun | Any_Key: yes, it's the u-boot bug |
| 12:21.01 | balrog-kun | Any_Key: it's been discussed on the list |
| 12:25.12 | Any_Key | balrog-kun, lets see |
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| 12:27.23 | ahven | ugh, can anyone confirm that neo1973 and the usb rndis driver doesn't work with Windows Vista? |
| 12:29.12 | mwester | confirmed according to bugzilla |
| 12:29.37 | ahven | doh, forgot bugzilla |
| 12:29.58 | mwester | Actually, the new 2.6.24 kernel doesn't work with rndis on *any* windows, according to that bug report. |
| 12:30.04 | mwester | :( |
| 12:30.23 | mwester | That's a regression... yuck. |
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| 12:36.45 | ahven | and like in the bugzilla. reinstalling the device doesn't fix anything |
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| 13:01.27 | torpor | ScaredyCat: pong |
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| 13:13.20 | Any_Key | balrog-kun, your patch in revision 4230, tell me please where and what to change to pull this revision, and build it. |
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| 13:17.19 | balrog-kun | Any_Key: i have no idea, i don't use oe |
| 13:18.44 | Any_Key | balrog-kun, git eh? OK thanks? at least I know where the poblem is |
| 13:18.59 | Any_Key | s/poblem/problem/ |
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| 13:30.55 | CM | wonders why he's the only one who can't get pth to compile |
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| 13:31.18 | PBeck | hallo |
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| 14:12.01 | ScaredyCat | torpor: how did your demo go? |
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| 14:42.02 | ScaredyCat | in gtk terms, what's the dotted line called (in buttons that have focus for example) |
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| 14:55.00 | balrog-kun | my guess would be just "focus" |
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| 15:27.18 | ScaredyCat | hrmm |
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| 15:41.24 | ajbrun | woo - it's snowing :p |
| 15:44.31 | l3010u | hi all, how will gta02 look like? |
| 15:44.37 | emdete | l3010u: nice ;) |
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| 15:44.48 | ajbrun | like the gta01 |
| 15:45.23 | l3010u | even for the mass production? |
| 15:45.30 | ajbrun | of course |
| 15:45.38 | ajbrun | unless you mean the gui? |
| 15:45.49 | l3010u | i mean the outlook :p |
| 15:45.58 | anrp | lol |
| 15:46.14 | ajbrun | then it'll be the same, but the specs have been released, so you can make your own casing if you want |
| 15:46.17 | l3010u | so..wts the use of the CAD files? |
| 15:46.24 | ajbrun | see above |
| 15:46.38 | l3010u | i see |
| 15:50.09 | MetaMorfoziS | Is there the schematic diagram of freerunner available somewhere? |
| 15:50.37 | MetaMorfoziS | there - |
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| 15:53.05 | l3010u | where can i find info abt the CNC machines? or will FIC provide that service? |
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| 15:57.33 | abraxa_ | MetaMorfoziS: Nope and probably only under NDA for now as OM, Inc. is likely to be negotiating still |
| 15:58.41 | MetaMorfoziS | :( |
| 15:58.48 | MetaMorfoziS | due to gsm modules? |
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| 16:12.57 | abraxa_ | MetaMorfoziS: No idea to be honest but that sounds like a likely culprit |
| 16:13.41 | MetaMorfoziS | for me (and i think for a lot of other ppl) that also good if the schematic not ontains the gsm piece... |
| 16:14.03 | MetaMorfoziS | for learning it will be a very cool stuff (even if it isn't contains the gsm module) |
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| 16:21.33 | MetaMorfoziS | I want to report another bug, if is there anybody from the wiki manager team... |
| 16:21.43 | MetaMorfoziS | in ff3 the left side menu of the wiki is on the bottom of the page |
| 16:22.12 | MetaMorfoziS | Here is a screenshot: http://webjegyzet.hu/p/ilyenff3.png |
| 16:34.34 | Sonicadvance1 | :D neat |
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| 16:36.22 | abraxa_ | MetaMorfoziS: Bug's already there |
| 16:37.13 | abraxa_ | http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1276 |
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| 17:24.20 | Sup3rkiddo | hi all, are there any would-be mentors for the GSoC here? |
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| 17:40.15 | PBeck | what is this for a thema => http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=1 ? |
| 17:40.56 | anrp | looks default-ish |
| 17:41.04 | anrp | although i dunno about that face in the background |
| 17:41.49 | PBeck | anrp: perhaps its saves ressources ;) |
| 17:42.11 | anrp | holds his neo up to his face and takes a screenshot |
| 17:42.43 | zash | isnt the face ScaredyCats? |
| 17:46.04 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 17:46.36 | ScaredyCat | PBeck: I'm working on that theme atm.. |
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| 17:51.10 | PBeck | ScaredyCat: nice :) |
| 17:51.26 | PBeck | ScaredyCat: is that theme faster then the standard? |
| 17:51.42 | ScaredyCat | seems a lot faster.. |
| 17:51.54 | PBeck | ScaredyCat: can you make a video? :) |
| 17:52.05 | PBeck | likes videos and pictures :) |
| 17:52.14 | ScaredyCat | errm.. I guess I could... it's not complete yet thought |
| 17:52.17 | ScaredyCat | -t |
| 17:52.23 | haakeyar | wants a video too :) |
| 17:52.39 | PBeck | ScaredyCat: never mind :) |
| 17:53.17 | PBeck | or how i say this in englisch? => i have no preference? :) |
| 17:53.25 | PBeck | or never mind |
| 17:54.31 | ScaredyCat | wonders off to find something to record it on.. |
| 17:55.16 | Fradeve | è a spasso: Pero ora assente. |
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| 18:22.06 | ScaredyCat | ok, I hve a pretty poor video but it should give an idea of speed |
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| 18:23.09 | ankuj2004 | hi |
| 18:23.54 | haakeyar | ScaredyCat: url? |
| 18:25.15 | ankuj2004 | i was going thru GOSC'08 |
| 18:25.49 | ScaredyCat | 1 sec uploading |
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| 18:27.09 | ankuj2004 | r u saying it to me |
| 18:28.01 | ankuj2004 | and the ideas for openmoko |
| 18:28.38 | ankuj2004 | but they were no mentors alloted for an idea nor there was any contct address |
| 18:29.31 | Sup3rkiddo | ankuj2004, just ping your ideas to the mailing lists |
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| 18:34.09 | ankuj2004 | that is what i was searching for past half and hour on the website but i did not find a single emailing address |
| 18:34.52 | Sup3rkiddo | ankuj2004, you prolly missed this, http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ |
| 18:35.07 | jamewill_ | ankuj2004, http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/ |
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| 18:35.14 | jamewill_ | oops |
| 18:35.25 | Sup3rkiddo | ~lart jamewill_ |
| 18:35.25 | apt | installs PocketPC on jamewill_'s PDA |
| 18:35.59 | jamewill_ | arrgggg nooo... |
| 18:37.05 | Sup3rkiddo | ankuj2004, try dropping mail to the devel-lists |
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| 18:39.01 | ankuj2004 | can someone help me out a littla |
| 18:40.15 | ankuj2004 | thanx |
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| 18:47.56 | ScaredyCat | stabs firefox for being stupid |
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| 18:53.53 | haakeyar | ScaredyCat: Firefox didn't want to upload your video? |
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| 18:54.36 | ScaredyCat | it does that crap where it says the script is unresponsive, then it does it every 5 seconds |
| 19:00.38 | zash | curl! |
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| 19:02.18 | haakeyar | entered "javascript:while(true);" into Firefox and now he understands ScaredyCat's pains. |
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| 19:10.32 | ScaredyCat | ok, I'll do it slightly differently 3 mins.. |
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| 19:12.54 | haakeyar | Btw, Opera (9.50 weekly build at least) does not show those dialogs, if that helps. |
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| 19:27.41 | ScaredyCat | haakeyar: http://blog.automated.it/ |
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| 19:30.57 | doc|home | hmmm, takes forever to boot, doesn't it? |
| 19:31.10 | doc|home | n800 is faster (admittedly has no gsm) |
| 19:31.28 | doc|home | hey look! ScaredyCat's head! |
| 19:32.02 | ScaredyCat | you're lucky it's my head |
| 19:32.24 | doc|home | no, you're lucky it's your head, otherwise your house is haunted by a floating head! |
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| 19:33.35 | ScaredyCat | it'll be one from my head collection :) |
| 19:33.40 | doc|home | hehe |
| 19:34.38 | doc|home | do you have a n800? (I thought you did). If you do, is the neo1973 faster than it for browsing the web or how far along is the browser now? |
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| 19:36.31 | ScaredyCat | I only have a 770 |
| 19:36.38 | ScaredyCat | not used it for ages though |
| 19:36.49 | ScaredyCat | browser sucks on the neo |
| 19:37.11 | doc|home | damn |
| 19:37.18 | doc|home | browser sucks on the n800 too |
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| 19:43.37 | thomasg_ | ScaredyCat, according to your video: it seems not much more responsive to me |
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| 19:50.07 | ScaredyCat | hrrrmm |
| 19:50.19 | ScaredyCat | maybe I've been working on it too long :) |
| 19:50.26 | ScaredyCat | screen draws seem better |
| 19:50.32 | ScaredyCat | to me |
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| 19:52.04 | Niluge_KiWi | Hi |
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| 19:57.02 | CM | ScaredyCat: Nice video :-) |
| 19:57.12 | Vegar | ScaredyCat: it certainly looks cleaner than the default theme |
| 19:58.59 | Niluge_KiWi | what is the link for the video? |
| 19:59.15 | xaid | Niluge_KiWi: http://blog.automated.it/ |
| 19:59.24 | Niluge_KiWi | xaid: thanks |
| 19:59.30 | xaid | Niluge_KiWi: you're welcome. |
| 20:00.08 | xaid | ScaredyCat: that theme definately looks better, good job :) |
| 20:05.59 | ScaredyCat | well, it's not all mine tbh |
| 20:06.11 | ScaredyCat | just adding a note to the blog about that :) |
| 20:06.25 | ScaredyCat | based on another one |
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| 20:51.25 | thomasg | are the qtopia-x11-applications zecke is working on available somewhere (oe?)? |
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| 20:59.48 | peter_harrison | Hi all. |
| 21:00.09 | Niluge_KiWi | Hi |
| 21:00.39 | peter_harrison | Was wondering what this means: |
| 21:01.07 | peter_harrison | Please add the files |
| 21:01.08 | peter_harrison | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.08 | peter_harrison | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.08 | peter_harrison | from the /aclocal directory to your autoconf macro directory |
| 21:01.08 | peter_harrison | or directly to your aclocal.m4 file. |
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| 21:02.08 | Niluge_KiWi | hm, sorry I'm new here, I can't really help you |
| 21:03.30 | peter_harrison | I'm trying to build openmoko-sample2 after installing the toolchain |
| 21:04.01 | abraxa_ | peter_harrison: What command did you run? |
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| 21:05.33 | peter_harrison | om-conf openmoko-sample2 |
| 21:06.20 | Niluge_KiWi | peter_harisson: Have you installer all the required dependencies ? |
| 21:06.45 | peter_harrison | hmm - coming to think of it gettextsze might have failed. |
| 21:07.06 | Niluge_KiWi | I had the same issue |
| 21:07.18 | peter_harrison | I followed the ubuntu instructions. |
| 21:07.44 | Niluge_KiWi | I'm on Debian, and apt-get stop to install the package listed after the first problem detected |
| 21:08.27 | peter_harrison | Couldn't find package glib-gettextize |
| 21:08.31 | Niluge_KiWi | So try this : sudo apt-get install ccache libxrender-dev |
| 21:09.15 | peter_harrison | I already have these installed. |
| 21:09.24 | Niluge_KiWi | ok |
| 21:10.27 | Niluge_KiWi | I searched something similar in name, to glib-gettextize |
| 21:11.05 | Niluge_KiWi | and I found "gettext", so you can try to install this one instead |
| 21:12.06 | Niluge_KiWi | I have this one instead of the glib-gettextize, and it worked for me |
| 21:17.51 | peter_harrison | I've looked up glib-gettextize and can't see it |
| 21:19.18 | Niluge_KiWi | I don't find it either on my repositories |
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| 21:22.37 | peter_harrison | Thanks for the help tho :) |
| 21:23.23 | Niluge_KiWi | did you try with the package "gettext" ? |
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| 21:32.20 | Niluge_KiWi | Does it work? |
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| 21:55.07 | peter_harrison | sorry - I looked for gettext and didn't find it - or there were hits, but I can't see which one really applies |
| 21:56.01 | peter_harrison | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7gp08CzYZQ |
| 21:56.16 | Niluge_KiWi | ok, so I can't help you more... |
| 21:56.38 | peter_harrison | Thanks anyway - at least I know whats wrong now. |
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| 21:58.51 | Niluge_KiWi | And we know there is a problem with the tutorial |
| 21:59.06 | peter_harrison | hm - looks like gettext is already installed. |
| 22:00.02 | peter_harrison | I'm trying to get to the point I can compile some USB controller libraries so I can control my boat. |
| 22:00.39 | peter_harrison | Its kinda frustrating - I can use GPS to find position, GPRS for communication, but the one element - control - it much harder. |
| 22:01.01 | peter_harrison | I have it all working on my laptop - just need to get it working on the neo. |
| 22:01.22 | Niluge_KiWi | gettext was also installed on my computer, and the project compiles fine... |
| 22:01.47 | Niluge_KiWi | it is your video on youtube? |
| 22:02.02 | peter_harrison | Yep -see the link above. |
| 22:02.15 | peter_harrison | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7gp08CzYZQ |
| 22:02.36 | Niluge_KiWi | I just saw the video |
| 22:03.32 | Niluge_KiWi | Quite impressive! |
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| 22:05.38 | peter_harrison | Niluge_KiWi: Have you managed to compile anything else? |
| 22:06.01 | Niluge_KiWi | the example project compiles |
| 22:06.17 | Niluge_KiWi | but I'm really new on OpenMoko |
| 22:06.37 | peter_harrison | Have you compiled anything except the example? |
| 22:06.45 | Niluge_KiWi | no |
| 22:06.47 | Niluge_KiWi | not yet |
| 22:07.03 | peter_harrison | Kiwi? are you in NZ? |
| 22:07.10 | Niluge_KiWi | no |
| 22:07.20 | Niluge_KiWi | I'm from France |
| 22:08.16 | peter_harrison | I'm thinking that the dependencies are okay. |
| 22:09.24 | Niluge_KiWi | the only problem I had when I compiled the example, is that apt-get didn't installed the packages listed after the glib-gettextize which was not fond |
| 22:10.18 | Niluge_KiWi | And I didn't saw it, but when I installed the other ones, everything worked |
| 22:11.40 | Niluge_KiWi | Now I'll try to put the example compiled, on qemu... |
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| 22:17.21 | Niluge_KiWi | Anyone knows to who I should talk for the Google Summer of Code? |
| 22:18.04 | peter_harrison | Woot! The problem was the intltool. |
| 22:18.11 | Niluge_KiWi | because yesterday edistar told me to speak to mickeyl, but he is inactive for more than 272hours... |
| 22:18.15 | Niluge_KiWi | hehe |
| 22:18.19 | Niluge_KiWi | so it works? |
| 22:18.26 | peter_harrison | Looks like it |
| 22:19.11 | peter_harrison | Well - that *command* has now worked. |
| 22:19.25 | peter_harrison | Now to see if it compiles |
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| 22:27.53 | peter_harrison | Woot2! |
| 22:28.22 | peter_harrison | It compiles |
| 22:28.29 | peter_harrison | and runs on to neo |
| 22:28.36 | Niluge_KiWi | hoho |
| 22:28.59 | peter_harrison | Now the hard part... |
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| 22:29.12 | Niluge_KiWi | So I'll have to read the doc in order to use it on qemu |
| 22:29.48 | peter_harrison | You don't have a neo? |
| 22:30.31 | Niluge_KiWi | no |
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| 22:31.05 | Niluge_KiWi | As I said, I'm new on OpenMoko |
| 22:31.06 | peter_harrison | I got mine off ebay - couldn't stand waiting for the Freerunner |
| 22:31.14 | Niluge_KiWi | hehe |
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| 22:31.44 | peter_harrison | Will buy a freerunner when it comes out though. |
| 22:32.06 | peter_harrison | Oh, and what a sucky name - the "Neo" is far better. |
| 22:32.21 | peter_harrison | "Freerunner" is so literal. |
| 22:33.53 | Niluge_KiWi | It's not the name, but the inside that matters! |
| 22:33.59 | peter_harrison | I( have modified the instructions on the Wiki to correct the package names. |
| 22:34.10 | peter_harrison | Yes; its a very cool device. |
| 22:34.29 | peter_harrison | I just love mine already - even if it is somewhat unfinished. |
| 22:35.29 | Niluge_KiWi | What I've seen is nice yes. |
| 22:36.15 | Niluge_KiWi | for the Wiki : I don't know if it's a good idea to have removed the glib-gettextize |
| 22:37.33 | peter_harrison | I don't see why not; the instructions are for Ubuntu 7.10, and thats what I have. |
| 22:38.08 | Niluge_KiWi | Okay |
| 22:38.34 | peter_harrison | It was a red flag to me when it failed to install - and I would hate for people to try chasing down non-problems. |
| 22:39.23 | peter_harrison | I've been fixing several things on the Wiki. It has a history, so if I mess up we can go back. |
| 22:40.32 | Niluge_KiWi | yes that's why wiki is usefull |
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| 23:15.59 | peter_harrison | So close now - |
| 23:16.38 | peter_harrison | I tried to compile the phidget libraries by simply calling make once I had set up the toolchain and successfully compiled the example. |
| 23:17.09 | peter_harrison | All of the files seemed to have compiled to xxx.o files |
| 23:17.32 | peter_harrison | The last thing to do however is create a xxx.so file, and I get the following: |
| 23:18.03 | peter_harrison | gcc -g -shared -o libphidget21.so libusb/usb.o libusb/descriptors.o libusb/linux.o libusb/error.o cphidget.o cphidgetaccelerometer.o cphidgetadvancedservo.o cphidgetencoder.o cphidgetgps.o cphidgetgyroscope.o cphidgetinterfacekit.o cphidgetled.o cphidgetmotorcontrol.o cphidgetphsensor.o cphidgetrfid.o cphidgetservo.o cphidgetstepper.o cphidgettemperaturesensor.o cphidgettextlcd.o cphidgettextled.o cphidgetweightsensor.o cph |
| 23:18.03 | peter_harrison | /usr/bin/ld: libusb/usb.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 40) |
| 23:18.03 | peter_harrison | libusb/usb.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format |
| 23:18.03 | peter_harrison | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:18.05 | peter_harrison | make: *** [libphidget21.so] Error 1 |
| 23:18.15 | Niluge_KiWi | hm |
| 23:18.41 | peter_harrison | I'm a Java / python developer, so I'm a bit out of my depth with gcc |
| 23:19.55 | Niluge_KiWi | and I'm a student in IT, in first year, and I'll learn C only in a few month.. |
| 23:20.18 | peter_harrison | I'm hoping there are some others here a little more experienced. |
| 23:20.34 | peter_harrison | - not impuning yourself of course :) |
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| 23:22.45 | peter_harrison | After a few minutes googling I can see that its probably the wrong architecture... |
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| 23:23.07 | peter_harrison | aka, the xxx.o files are for arm, but the gcc line isn't specifying arm. |
| 23:23.33 | Niluge_KiWi | the gcc line was generated by the stuff from openmoko? |
| 23:24.53 | peter_harrison | yes. |
| 23:27.00 | Niluge_KiWi | hm.. bad thing |
| 23:31.48 | peter_harrison | root@peter-laptop:~/Phidgetlinux# om-conf phidget21/ |
| 23:31.48 | peter_harrison | Source directory: /root/Phidgetlinux/phidget21 |
| 23:31.48 | peter_harrison | Extra configure arguments: |
| 23:31.48 | peter_harrison | NOTE: nothing to configure |
| 23:32.09 | peter_harrison | running om-conf doesn't appear to do much. |
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| 23:32.59 | peter_harrison | Compiling all the individual files looks okay, its just the last step of creating a xxx.so from them all. |
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| 23:33.37 | Niluge_KiWi | I'm a little bit lost in all this, because I tried qemu, and at the same time compiling an application, so all is mixed up |
| 23:33.57 | abraxa_ | peter_harrison: What architecture does the file utility give you for one of the object files? |
| 23:34.33 | peter_harrison | file utility? |
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| 23:34.56 | peter_harrison | duh - just ing it |
| 23:35.27 | abraxa_ | Yeah - "file" :) |
| 23:35.36 | peter_harrison | cphidgetservo.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped |
| 23:35.55 | peter_harrison | The build also tends to indicate its ARM. |
| 23:36.05 | abraxa_ | Sounds good indeed |
| 23:36.19 | peter_harrison | But there are no parameters to gcc when making to so file. |
| 23:36.32 | peter_harrison | no parameters specifying arm that is |
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| 23:37.06 | peter_harrison | I'm read man gcc to see if I can manually do that last part. |
| 23:37.18 | peter_harrison | - specify the architecture on the command line. |
| 23:40.09 | abraxa_ | --march=armv5te (not sure which exactly) |
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| 23:47.35 | peter_harrison | Tried this with right architecture value with no luck. |
| 23:48.11 | abraxa_ | Can you pastebin the output and error message you get when using the makefile? |
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| 23:50.26 | peter_harrison | gcc -g -shared -o libphidget21.so libusb/usb.o libusb/descriptors.o libusb/linux.o libusb/error.o cphidget.o cphidgetaccelerometer.o cphidgetadvancedservo.o cphidgetencoder.o cphidgetgps.o cphidgetgyroscope.o cphidgetinterfacekit.o cphidgetled.o cphidgetmotorcontrol.o cphidgetphsensor.o cphidgetrfid.o cphidgetservo.o cphidgetstepper.o cphidgettemperaturesensor.o cphidgettextlcd.o cphidgettextled.o cphidgetweightsensor.o cph |
| 23:50.26 | peter_harrison | /usr/bin/ld: libusb/usb.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 40) |
| 23:50.26 | peter_harrison | libusb/usb.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format |
| 23:50.27 | peter_harrison | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 23:50.29 | peter_harrison | make: *** [libphidget21.so] Error 1 |
| 23:50.47 | abraxa_ | ~pastebin |
| 23:50.48 | apt | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 23:50.51 | abraxa_ | ;) |
| 23:51.05 | peter_harrison | Thanks |
| 23:51.25 | abraxa_ | You're using the cross-compile toolchain? |
| 23:52.28 | peter_harrison | http://pastebin.com/m1f3791e1 |
| 23:52.52 | peter_harrison | yes - off of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain |
| 23:53.11 | abraxa_ | Can you just out of curiosity check the format of libusb/usb.o ? |
| 23:53.27 | abraxa_ | Maybe that one happens to not be compiled for ARM |
| 23:54.03 | peter_harrison | usb.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped |
| 23:54.11 | abraxa_ | Okay |
| 23:55.37 | abraxa_ | I am not sure about this but could it be that the ld on your system can handle x86 binaries only? If so, you'd need to use ld shipped with the toolchain |
| 23:55.53 | abraxa_ | Which env var was it again... LDD? *looks* |
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| 23:57.16 | peter_harrison | Ah - thats the issue. |
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| 23:58.19 | peter_harrison | All the other commands in the make begin with ccache arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 23:58.32 | peter_harrison | where the last line starts just gcc |
| 23:59.36 | abraxa_ | Yeah, so it invokes your system's gcc |
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| 23:59.54 | abraxa_ | Interesting that no one caught that before |
