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| 00:08.05 | wurp2 | `pwgen`: Congratulations! |
| 00:08.17 | wurp2 | Is the interface for the ringer on the dbus api doc on the wiki? |
| 00:09.00 | wurp2 | peter_harrison: I had problems like that too. I had to chown my python site dir to my user :-( |
| 00:09.23 | wurp2 | It was trying to copy files in, first, I think, then it was failing because it couldn't find them |
| 00:09.46 | wurp2 | but it was really weird - why the heck is OM build copying files to python site-lib directly? |
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| 00:19.45 | `pwgen` | homebrew dbus daemon |
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| 00:25.35 | wurp2 | `pwgen`: Hmm, I'm not sure I see the benefit of building a dbus interface if you're the only one who uses it... |
| 00:26.21 | `pwgen` | http://eric-weiss.dyndns.org/trac/wiki/openmoko |
| 00:26.30 | wurp2 | Unless it's for the experience |
| 00:26.32 | `pwgen` | ist my first dbus-interface ... |
| 00:26.42 | wurp2 | Ah, that would be a good reason :-) |
| 00:26.51 | wurp2 | I haven't built a dbus server, just clients |
| 00:27.04 | `pwgen` | and my first gtk-gui |
| 00:27.50 | `pwgen` | i can make calls, rceive calls ( with ring ) and that more than 1 time ... |
| 00:28.08 | wurp2 | excellent! |
| 00:28.25 | `pwgen` | lets wait how long it runs *G* |
| 00:28.29 | wurp2 | I built both my first gtk gui and my first dbus client for some OM work as well |
| 00:28.46 | wurp2 | Are you basing it on underground, or does it run on OM? |
| 00:29.19 | wurp2 | I guess if you did gtk it must be OM |
| 00:29.52 | `pwgen` | it runs from sd , a mixture from all . with 2.6.22.5-moko11 |
| 00:30.29 | `pwgen` | with a lot of manual bitbake ( icewm xkbd stuff ) |
| 00:30.44 | wurp2 | I haven't done any bitbake... |
| 00:31.14 | wurp2 | gotta go get a library book to brush on on algorithms |
| 00:31.22 | wurp2 | second interview with Google next Tuesday :-) |
| 00:31.36 | wurp2 | happy hacking! |
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| 00:42.13 | peter_harrison | Hiya all - I'm trying to get GPS working, and having a issue. |
| 00:42.55 | peter_harrison | Because I'm running a later kernel the wiki suggests: |
| 00:42.57 | peter_harrison | n -s neo1973-pm-gps.0 gta01-pm-gps.0 |
| 00:43.08 | peter_harrison | ln -s neo1973-pm-gps.0 gta01-pm-gps.0 |
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| 00:43.38 | peter_harrison | That is creating a symlink between the expected and actual 'directory' |
| 00:44.14 | peter_harrison | problem is I get "ln: gta01-pm-gps.0: No such file or directory" |
| 00:44.45 | peter_harrison | Anyone here have experience with GPS that have got this working? |
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| 01:19.46 | Fradeve | è a spasso: Pero ora assente. |
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| 01:33.54 | TimMEt_ | Hi, I was wondering if there was anyone knowledgeable about google's SoC that I could talk to? |
| 01:36.27 | CVirus | TimMEt_: I was just wondering at what University are you :-) ? |
| 01:36.49 | TimMEt_ | I'm at UC San Diego |
| 01:37.05 | CVirus | which semester ? |
| 01:37.12 | TimMEt_ | Sophomore |
| 01:37.20 | TimMEt_ | Computer Engineering major |
| 01:37.20 | CVirus | huh ? |
| 01:38.04 | CVirus | Sophomore == second semseter ? |
| 01:38.07 | CVirus | semester* |
| 01:38.14 | TimMEt_ | er... it's about to be spring quater |
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| 01:38.29 | TimMEt_ | I was thinking year |
| 01:38.37 | CVirus | ah second year |
| 01:38.50 | CVirus | TimMEt_: and what are your plans for SoC ? |
| 01:39.13 | TimMEt_ | I was interested in a project to get streaming music on a mobile platform |
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| 01:39.41 | TimMEt_ | So OpenMoko seemed like the closest match for that kind of project, if that was something they're interested in |
| 01:40.11 | CVirus | TimMEt_: my finals start in the middle of June and end by the end of the month so there's no way that I'd join SoC this year .. what about you ? |
| 01:40.55 | TimMEt_ | I'm off in the middle of june, I haven't actually checked when the SoC thing is supposed to start. |
| 01:42.08 | summatusmentis | TimMEt_: I'm not sure who all is gonna be mentors yet, mickeyl and someone else submitted the application |
| 01:45.25 | TimMEt_ | Is there a way I could get in contact with them? I'm really interested in this project idea, and it'd be great if I could work on it this summer. |
| 01:45.35 | CVirus | TimMEt_: http://code.google.com/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html ... check the timeline at the end of the page |
| 01:46.06 | CVirus | TimMEt_: mickeyl is mickeyl :-) |
| 01:46.10 | summatusmentis | TimMEt_: they're open to any other ideas, if you check the wiki thinger |
| 01:46.38 | summatusmentis | so, I mean, feel free to talk to them, but I think ultimately you just need to submit the app, and then go from there |
| 01:47.02 | summatusmentis | will be submitting an application for a HAL/DBus daemon that handles all sorts of events |
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| 01:48.44 | TimMEt_ | wow, it starts in may, that was earlier than I thought it would be |
| 01:49.09 | summatusmentis | TimMEt_: I also think XorA will be mentoring a project? I don't know that for sure... ask him :-) |
| 01:50.11 | XorA | summatusmentis: I should probably mentor if needed to try and take loads of mickeyl |
| 01:50.30 | CVirus | TimMEt_: go for it if you're not as overloaded with 10 courses as me |
| 01:50.53 | summatusmentis | XorA: sorry, didn't mean to volunteer you :-) |
| 01:51.11 | TimMEt_ | 10 courses? Wow, I'm glad my school works on the quarter system. |
| 01:51.25 | summatusmentis | 10 courses? I'm on a semester system and have 4 |
| 01:51.27 | XorA | summatusmentis: it depends on the project, a lot of the middleware ones Im not really competent for |
| 01:51.43 | summatusmentis | XorA: oh, ok |
| 01:52.28 | summatusmentis | middleware != kernel stuff && middleware != UI stuff |
| 01:52.29 | CVirus | summatusmentis: I'm on a semester system and I have 10 :-) |
| 01:52.32 | summatusmentis | correct? |
| 01:52.43 | summatusmentis | CVirus: that's insane! How many credits? |
| 01:52.49 | CVirus | 34 |
| 01:52.57 | CVirus | I'm taking an overload to free my self for the next year |
| 01:53.02 | CVirus | so that I'd be able to join SoC |
| 01:53.03 | summatusmentis | why? what for? that's crazy |
| 01:53.08 | CVirus | I know |
| 01:53.24 | TimMEt_ | What is the average course load for your school? |
| 01:53.26 | CVirus | summatusmentis: what university are oyu ? |
| 01:53.40 | summatusmentis | University of Minnesota - Morris |
| 01:53.40 | CVirus | TimMEt_: 6 or 7 courses per semester |
| 01:54.01 | summatusmentis | CVirus: so how many credits per semester? |
| 01:54.04 | TimMEt_ | The average here is 4 |
| 01:54.13 | summatusmentis | same here, per semester |
| 01:54.23 | CVirus | the average here is 25-30 per semester |
| 01:54.29 | summatusmentis | http://www.morris.umn.edu if you care |
| 01:54.34 | summatusmentis | CVirus: what school? |
| 01:54.41 | CVirus | German University in Cairo |
| 01:55.00 | summatusmentis | hmm |
| 01:55.09 | CVirus | Egypt that is |
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| 01:56.10 | Linux_Galore | happy easter everyone, or dead guy on a stick day if you have humour |
| 01:56.13 | summatusmentis | right, I assumed as much |
| 01:56.24 | summatusmentis | easter? isn't easter on sunday? |
| 01:56.42 | summatusmentis | unless I'm way confused |
| 01:57.21 | TimMEt_ | Ahh, flying bell day. |
| 01:57.39 | Linux_Galore | well technically the date is totally wrong its actually a solstice celebration |
| 01:58.00 | summatusmentis | lol, ok, then don't go around claiming it's dead guy on a stick day :-P |
| 01:58.42 | Linux_Galore | I got my dead guy on a stick choclate treat, even comes with candy nails |
| 01:59.04 | summatusmentis | that's disturbing |
| 01:59.11 | CVirus | LOL |
| 01:59.49 | Linux_Galore | for an extra $9.95 you can get one that goes "oooh crap that hurts" when you insert the nails |
| 02:00.05 | CVirus | ROFL |
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| 02:00.31 | TimMEt_ | According to wiki, easter is on monday, and apparently there's a different date for "eastern" |
| 02:00.46 | TimMEt_ | er sunday |
| 02:00.49 | TimMEt_ | not monday |
| 02:03.14 | Linux_Galore | wonder if we will get a Christian Edition of the OM firmware, every time you turn is on it quotes a new bible verse then whips you for sining |
| 02:03.58 | Linux_Galore | I havent been in here for a while how is the OM project going anyway |
| 02:04.27 | summatusmentis | it wouldn't surprise me |
| 02:04.49 | Linux_Galore | OM the Satanic edition, comes in red with a built in flame thrower, the kids love it |
| 02:04.53 | summatusmentis | is it sining? or sinning? |
| 02:05.03 | TimMEt_ | Hmm, does open moko even have wifi? |
| 02:05.21 | CVirus | TimMEt_: the Freerunner has |
| 02:05.28 | CVirus | TimMEt_: /topic |
| 02:06.07 | Linux_Galore | hmm april, sigh |
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| 02:07.19 | Linux_Galore | wonder if there are any videos on youboob regarding the freerunner |
| 02:09.05 | XorA | free running boobs, awesome |
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| 02:10.47 | Linux_Galore | the name free runner when I first heard it made me wonder if the OM people understood that term means a type of running sport, bit like calling a Phone "the soccor" |
| 02:13.05 | Linux_Galore | although if you think about it Freerunner" matches the project as the sport of free running is totally free and one needs to be slightly suicidal |
| 02:13.16 | Linux_Galore | :-P |
| 02:15.59 | XorA | Linux_Galore: I think the guy who chose the name knew, I am explaining to the rest |
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| 02:18.55 | Linux_Galore | hmm the gossy black freerunner demo at CES looks nice |
| 02:19.24 | Linux_Galore | the colour (gloss) matches the curved shape better |
| 02:19.38 | XorA | yeah I like the black on black |
| 02:20.07 | Linux_Galore | i think glossy red would look cool to as red gloss has a natural mental conatation to round things |
| 02:20.35 | XorA | there is some orange/black free runners about |
| 02:21.19 | Linux_Galore | Silver is starting to become old now |
| 02:22.58 | Linux_Galore | I have a sample phone from our factory and they have a transclucent pearl white finnish, its white with the enamel layer having a while cloudy finnish |
| 02:23.11 | Linux_Galore | looks interesting |
| 02:23.36 | Linux_Galore | desk phone that is not mobile |
| 02:27.29 | wurp2|away | peter_harrison: I have gps going - I'm the guy who put the ln -s comment in the wiki for it |
| 02:30.03 | wurp2|kindahere | peter_harrison: If you're Cheetah100, that ln -s only applies to kernel 2.6.24+, not 2.6.22 |
| 02:37.58 | XorA | almost accidently sent the monotone.openmoko.org to monotone.openembedded.org, and that would have been bad (tm) |
| 02:38.43 | mwester | Would have been messy, to say the least. |
| 02:42.40 | XorA | yeah :-( |
| 02:43.08 | XorA | hopes to switch to an openmoko branch off OE over weekend, Im scared that one day I shall actually dump all the crap in the wrong repo |
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| 02:44.48 | mwester | I did some major "temorary stuff" some time ago, and added a dummy "monotone.openembedded.org" entry in my hosts file, just in case I forgot and tried to push something. |
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| 02:49.11 | wurp2|kindahere | peter_harrison: Never mind, I see now that the 2-20 image IS on the 2.6.24 kernel :-( I will double check my directory against the 3-19 image and update the wiki if necessary (this is regarding your comments about GPS) |
| 02:52.16 | XorA | mwester: would work if I didnt do both Angstrom and OM stuff :-) |
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| 02:58.41 | mwester | XorA: can you fix the preferred version for the openmoko kernel in the sane srcrevs on OE -- it doesn't seem to like that syntax. |
| 02:59.11 | XorA | mwester: its a bug/not implemented feature in OE yet |
| 02:59.19 | mwester | Ah, ok. |
| 02:59.19 | XorA | mwester: Im working on it now |
| 02:59.38 | mwester | I just put something in my local.conf, so no hurry. |
| 02:59.44 | XorA | mwester: it works one way if you use AUTOREV, but not the other way if you use a fixed revision |
| 03:00.16 | mwester | What are people generally building bleeding edge with -- lots of AUTOREVs? |
| 03:00.33 | XorA | mwester: moko-autorev enabled is how official OM images are produced |
| 03:00.50 | mwester | Oh - well that explains a lot, then. |
| 03:00.53 | mwester | :) |
| 03:01.08 | mwester | I never seem to be quite in sync... I wondered why... :D |
| 03:02.09 | mwester | Also, can we turn off MMC debug messages in the defconfig in OE? or is that still needed for GTA02 kernel work? |
| 03:02.29 | XorA | mwester: I shall check with kernel guys later today, I think its working now |
| 03:03.12 | mwester | Cool. Again, no rush. I'm just thinking it's slowing the SD card access, and may be obscuring other kernel messages as they scroll out of the buffer so fast. |
| 03:04.00 | XorA | yeah it slows SD card to a crawl |
| 03:04.21 | XorA | I think sometimes people forget there is a large use base of GTA01 |
| 03:06.34 | mwester | I suspect you are correct, but I certainly wouldn't want to distract anyone from the 02 right now :) |
| 03:06.57 | mwester | As long as we can keep the 01 booting, we can fix the details once the 02 is shipping... |
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| 03:22.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1286 has been created by tick(AT)openmoko.com |
| 03:22.03 | cdbot2 | * * vePackage" failed. |
| 03:22.05 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1286 |
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| 03:39.33 | wurp2|kindahere | Are we supposed to have to run mokomake as root? |
| 03:39.40 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 03:39.44 | XorA | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:39.51 | wurp2|kindahere | good |
| 03:40.03 | SpeedEvil | you may need to do very limited stuff as root |
| 03:40.07 | SpeedEvil | Such as flashing |
| 03:40.11 | wurp2|kindahere | I'm not, but I had to make my 2.4 site-lib writable for my user for it tor un |
| 03:40.17 | wurp2|kindahere | s/tor un/to run/ |
| 03:42.37 | Sonicadvance | runs mokomake as super root |
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| 03:46.29 | XorA | hmm, staging gdk-pixbuf-csource is dificult |
| 03:48.03 | wurp2|kindahere | | Compiling /home/wurp/projects/neo1973/mokomake/build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/python-2.5.2-ml1/image/usr/lib/python2.5/test/test_multibytecodec.py ... |
| 03:48.06 | wurp2|kindahere | | Sorry: UnicodeError: ("\\N escapes not supported (can't load unicodedata module)",) |
| 03:48.11 | wurp2|kindahere | Any suggestions? |
| 03:48.29 | wurp2|kindahere | hrm, maybe install unicodedata module for python2.5 ;-) |
| 03:48.38 | XorA | gah, thats a mickeyl type question and he is probably playing on the beach |
| 03:48.52 | wurp2|kindahere | I hope so |
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| 05:32.21 | bipolar | Does anyone know (I don't have a phone) if it's possible to program the neo/freerunner so that all outgoing calls are sent though an intermediate phone number? Specificly, I'd like to use an asterisk phone system to route calls, but I don't want to have to manualy dial one number, then the number i want to reach. I guess calling card users are in the same boat. |
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| 05:36.03 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 05:36.09 | SpeedEvil | however, it's not setup to do that. |
| 05:36.16 | SpeedEvil | Bit the hardware does not preculde that. |
| 05:36.45 | SpeedEvil | bt |
| 05:36.47 | SpeedEvil | but |
| 05:37.57 | bipolar | cool |
| 05:38.13 | bipolar | That will help me 'sell' the phone to manangement |
| 05:38.53 | bipolar | I wonder how much custom programming it would take. |
| 05:39.16 | SpeedEvil | at the moment, its very non-user-ready |
| 05:39.51 | SpeedEvil | You basically want to simply dial a prefix before all numbers? |
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| 05:40.22 | SpeedEvil | Or rather - dial one number, then pause, then send over DTMF the desired number to call? |
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| 05:59.54 | doc|home | heh, 'non-user-ready' :) |
| 06:00.07 | doc|home | also: |
| 06:00.08 | doc|home | wants |
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| 06:16.52 | bipolar | SpeedEvil: the later one. dial a number, the asterisk server picks up, dial the 'real' number. doing this transparently is the key. |
| 06:17.58 | SpeedEvil | not really hard - as I unserstand. |
| 06:18.35 | bipolar | cool |
| 06:18.49 | bipolar | Obviously, it's all software. |
| 06:19.03 | bipolar | and since it's all open source, anything is possible. |
| 06:19.21 | bipolar | you should have seen the reaction when I showed them trixbox :) |
| 06:19.50 | bipolar | having a cell phone setup like that would basicly mean a portable extention |
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| 08:14.23 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:15.55 | mbuf | Hopscotch, good morning |
| 08:18.16 | fredthecat | Morning both of you |
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| 08:19.08 | Fradeve | è a spasso: Pero ora assente. |
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| 09:13.03 | torpor | hey |
| 09:13.08 | torpor | ScaredyCat: your image doesn't work for me. |
| 09:13.29 | torpor | what i'm wondering is if there is some sort of NAND reformatting voodoo that I'm supposed to do, but didn't, because I'm lame and missed the details ... |
| 09:14.21 | XorA | torpor: dfu should nand erare before flash anyway |
| 09:14.33 | XorA | torpor: as long as u-boot is newer than what originally shipped |
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| 09:19.55 | torpor | XorA: its definitely a newer u-boot, because i put it on there a few months ago to support boot-from-SD. |
| 09:19.59 | torpor | and damnit now my neo won't turn on. |
| 09:20.20 | torpor | waits patiently before giving up on the neo1973 in lieu of some other openmoko-running phone .. like .. ermm .. |
| 09:21.15 | ScaredyCat | what ode sit do torpor |
| 09:22.15 | torpor | your image? well, i see tons of messages that are quite unusual on kernel-boot ,but too fast for me to read, then it sits there trying to start the GUI, which doesn't start, and drops me to a console prompt. |
| 09:22.34 | torpor | one time (i tried a few times to burn it) i got an openmoko screen with some dudes face superimposed over it - i'm assuming thats you? |
| 09:22.41 | torpor | but the GUI fails. |
| 09:22.46 | ScaredyCat | hrm... |
| 09:23.05 | torpor | so i've got a dual-boot scenario here on my neo, i'll try to boot from internal SD (my old image) and see if i can figure out whats going on. |
| 09:23.12 | ScaredyCat | can you ssh in and restart the gui there? |
| 09:23.27 | torpor | assuming the damn thing boots now, i actually *had* to do the battery-yank maneuver a couple times last night in order to burn your image a few times. |
| 09:23.41 | ScaredyCat | at keast you should be able to get to the logs |
| 09:23.41 | torpor | its not booting yet, i'll wait 20 minutes and give it a go,. |
| 09:23.46 | ScaredyCat | :O |
| 09:23.56 | torpor | i know the battery-yank maneuver is *highly* dangerous, btw, but i had to do it .. |
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| 09:26.46 | ScaredyCat | well, jsut so long as you unplug the usb first |
| 09:26.54 | torpor | yeah .. i didn't do that. :( |
| 09:27.28 | torpor | is it *guaranteed* that this will crash my neo? |
| 09:27.54 | Marcel_M | torpor: hi are you at the metalab an sunday? |
| 09:28.02 | Marcel_M | *on |
| 09:28.07 | torpor | Marcel_M: yes! |
| 09:28.09 | torpor | tonight too. |
| 09:28.44 | XorA | is confused by this talk of battery yank |
| 09:28.57 | Marcel_M | torpor: tonight and tomorrow im busy but ill try to come sunday |
| 09:29.04 | ScaredyCat | * XorA is always confused |
| 09:29.08 | torpor | if you yank the battery while the usb is plugged in and powering the device, it will scream, and blow up some power charging circuitry or something. |
| 09:29.13 | torpor | Marcel_M: ok |
| 09:29.20 | torpor | damnit i hope i haven't toasted my neo. |
| 09:29.36 | Marcel_M | torpor: great see you sundays |
| 09:29.38 | ScaredyCat | well, if you hear it scream, unplug the usb or put the battery back |
| 09:29.43 | XorA | torpor: I dont think charging circuit will actually blow up, just scream in pain |
| 09:29.45 | torpor | yeah ok |
| 09:29.49 | torpor | its on now, so thats good. |
| 09:29.52 | torpor | what should i do now ScaredyCat ? |
| 09:30.03 | XorA | torpor: at least Ive never managged to kill one yet, and I was the one discovered the scream of pain\ |
| 09:30.04 | ScaredyCat | put the battery back in.. |
| 09:30.08 | torpor | i really want a working neo today that can play movies, i have to demo some things and i'd like to use the neo to show these movies .. |
| 09:30.17 | ScaredyCat | how flat was the battery ? |
| 09:30.24 | torpor | XorA: i've already killed one neo, i don't wanna kill my last one! |
| 09:30.43 | XorA | we still need to make a neo repair center in .eu |
| 09:30.59 | ScaredyCat | yeah... send us all you neo... |
| 09:31.00 | ScaredyCat | :D |
| 09:31.01 | torpor | ScaredyCat: my battery was quite flat, then i charged up for an hour yesterday, did the image burn, and then got into the screaming antics. .. this morning the battery was flat and i was worried, but it seems that its now on and working. |
| 09:31.07 | torpor | XorA: that we do |
| 09:31.39 | XorA | battery behaviour is much better with gta02 |
| 09:31.42 | ScaredyCat | ok, so can you boot it then ssh in and try to start x |
| 09:31.46 | torpor | ScaredyCat: booting my old from-SD image now, will upgrade that and see if it works, then i'll try to work out whats up with your image... |
| 09:31.55 | ScaredyCat | gha |
| 09:31.58 | ScaredyCat | gah! |
| 09:32.07 | torpor | XorA: do you have a gta02? |
| 09:32.16 | XorA | torpor: yes |
| 09:32.21 | torpor | ScaredyCat: i gotta get my neo working for this demo of the video's, so let me do that first and then i'll try to debug |
| 09:32.27 | torpor | XorA: sorry, havne't been paying attention. |
| 09:32.30 | CVirus | does the FreeRunner support 3G ? |
| 09:32.34 | torpor | i'm really looking froward to being able to buy a gta02.. |
| 09:32.35 | ScaredyCat | k |
| 09:33.28 | XorA | CVirus: no |
| 09:33.44 | XorA | torpor: Im currently sitting in OpenMoko office |
| 09:33.59 | ScaredyCat | pics or it's not true :) |
| 09:34.16 | CVirus | XorA: 2.5G only ? |
| 09:34.22 | ScaredyCat | it's fecking snowing! |
| 09:34.30 | XorA | CVirus: same as GTA01 |
| 09:34.31 | torpor | XorA: cool, did not know that about you .. ;) |
| 09:34.42 | torpor | ScaredyCat: where you at? snowed here in vienna too .. |
| 09:34.44 | CVirus | XorA: what does the GTA01 support ? |
| 09:34.50 | XorA | CVirus: 2.5G |
| 09:34.52 | ScaredyCat | .nl torpor.. |
| 09:35.02 | torpor | where in the .nl? |
| 09:35.11 | ScaredyCat | Lelystad ... |
| 09:35.13 | CVirus | XorA: thanks |
| 09:35.20 | ScaredyCat | 60km east of Amsterdam |
| 09:35.25 | torpor | ah. |
| 09:35.53 | torpor | i miss .nl to be honest. i lived in germany for 5 years before i moved to vienna last year, and it was always great to get away from germany and visit my dutch friends for the weekends .. ;) |
| 09:36.33 | ScaredyCat | .. and here I am trying to escape from .nl :) |
| 09:37.08 | torpor | heh heh |
| 09:37.16 | torpor | maybe its just nice to visit and not live there. |
| 09:37.29 | torpor | i often said that about amsterdam: nice to visit, wouldn't want to live there. |
| 09:37.44 | ScaredyCat | I think it's like that no matter where you go... |
| 09:37.45 | torpor | but then actually i *would* want to live there, just when i'm rich and single. (not rich, and not single right now.. ;) |
| 09:37.59 | ScaredyCat | yeah, Amsterdam is ok if you're <=26 |
| 09:38.13 | torpor | heh heh |
| 09:38.16 | torpor | or nearing-40 |
| 09:38.17 | torpor | ;) |
| 09:38.26 | ScaredyCat | I just got there :( |
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| 09:39.15 | ScaredyCat | XorA: was your pixbuf hack to 'just ignore the error' ? |
| 09:39.39 | torpor | \oh shit i think my ipkg is borked |
| 09:39.47 | XorA | ScaredyCat: no, to delete the problem files, they arent needed anyway |
| 09:40.05 | XorA | ScaredyCat: problem wouldnt exist if we did a full gtk+ install which we dont |
| 09:40.06 | torpor | root@fic-gta01:~# ls -l /usr/bin//ipkg-cl |
| 09:40.07 | torpor | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 0 Mar 12 2008 /usr/bin//ipkg-cl |
| 09:40.15 | torpor | ^^ damnit |
| 09:40.24 | torpor | can someone put the ipkg-cl binary somewhere i can dl it straight to my neo? |
| 09:40.53 | ScaredyCat | XorA: mmm I'm still getting those errors.. |
| 09:41.02 | XorA | ScaredyCat: rm the files |
| 09:41.26 | ScaredyCat | didn't you push that change ? I thought I saw it |
| 09:41.44 | XorA | ScaredyCat: yeah, but it only applies if you rebuild the package |
| 09:41.48 | ScaredyCat | [2008-03-21 04:01:11] <CIA-39> xora org.oe.dev * r8bc85f8f... / (1 packages/gtk+/gdk-pixbuf-csource-native_2.10.14.bb): |
| 09:41.48 | ScaredyCat | [2008-03-21 04:01:11] <CIA-39> gdk-pixbuf-csource-native_2.10.14.bb : hack to remove wrong *.la files as |
| 09:41.48 | ScaredyCat | [2008-03-21 04:01:11] <CIA-39> they are wrong and not needed. |
| 09:42.07 | ScaredyCat | I just tried to rebuild, hence my confusiotn |
| 09:42.21 | torpor | someone, anyone? |
| 09:42.32 | ScaredyCat | just a tick torpor |
| 09:43.11 | XorA | off to a meeting |
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| 09:44.00 | ScaredyCat | torpor: ... |
| 09:44.05 | ScaredyCat | http://buildhost.automated.it/ |
| 09:44.22 | torpor | thx ScaredyCat |
| 09:44.40 | torpor | i'm hoping i won't have lib problems too .. |
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| 09:47.07 | CM | Good morning :) |
| 09:47.15 | CM | ~curse pth |
| 09:47.16 | apt | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, pth ! |
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| 09:47.43 | CM | It've been unable to build pth-2.0.2-r0.bb for a month now |
| 09:48.55 | ScaredyCat | what is it? |
| 09:49.01 | ScaredyCat | morning btw |
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| 09:49.27 | CM | I don't really know what it is, but openmoko-image builds it |
| 09:49.31 | torpor | is there a way to do an 'integrity' check with ipkg, to make sure that packages are actually installed properly as per some CRC or something in the pkg? i'm not that familiar with ipkg as i should be, alas. .. |
| 09:49.41 | CM | Some thread stuff I guess, but it sucks :( |
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| 10:01.50 | CM | ScaredyCat: If I want to make a newer bb file, how do I get bitbake to build it? |
| 10:02.03 | CM | I'm trying to replace pth-2.0.2 with 2.0.7 |
| 10:02.17 | CM | But it just keeps building 2.0.2 |
| 10:03.31 | ScaredyCat | mv pth-2.0.2.bb pth-2.0.2.bb_ |
| 10:03.42 | ScaredyCat | bitbake -c rebuild pth |
| 10:03.49 | CM | Ok, it's cached or something |
| 10:03.52 | CM | thanks |
| 10:04.04 | ScaredyCat | you should see the cache update |
| 10:04.14 | CM | Hehe |
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| 10:04.51 | torpor | anyon eknow if i can make ipkg do an integrity check? |
| 10:05.13 | torpor | i ran out of disk space in th emiddle of 'ipkg upgrade' and didn't notice until too late, so now there are some packages that are not correctly installed .. |
| 10:05.46 | thos | torpor, all downloaded packages are checked with md5sum |
| 10:05.53 | thos | oh |
| 10:05.59 | thos | you ran out of disk space |
| 10:06.01 | torpor | thos: but are they failed if the disk is full? |
| 10:06.03 | torpor | yup |
| 10:06.07 | thos | too bad |
| 10:06.11 | thos | you'll have to reflash |
| 10:06.14 | torpor | i've solved the disk space problem now but i want to integrity-check my system? |
| 10:06.15 | thos | ipkg sucks |
| 10:06.18 | torpor | oh damn, really? |
| 10:06.27 | thos | i'm hopingn to fix this in opkg |
| 10:06.34 | torpor | oh man |
| 10:06.37 | torpor | thats really a nuisance. |
| 10:06.59 | torpor | this is a custom-built image on SD card, which includes a whole suite of dev tools (onboard compiler and such) and this is really important .. |
| 10:07.04 | torpor | so i guess i shouldn't have run out of disk space. |
| 10:10.19 | thos | yup, pretty much |
| 10:10.31 | thos | torpor, if you know which packages failed, you can force reinstall |
| 10:10.42 | torpor | yeah i'm trying to figure out which packages are screwed up .. |
| 10:11.03 | torpor | if ipkg had an integrity chek that'd be useful. |
| 10:11.08 | torpor | so please add it to opkg! :) |
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| 10:12.53 | torpor | whats the default ip address for your image ScaredyCat ? is it 192.168.1.202, or .. ? |
| 10:13.26 | torpor | its booting now and i see an openmoko screen with some dudes face superimposed over it .. |
| 10:16.41 | ScaredyCat | yes |
| 10:16.44 | ScaredyCat | 202 |
| 10:16.53 | torpor | 1.202 or 0.202? |
| 10:17.25 | CM | What version of glibc does om build now? |
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| 10:21.17 | CM | Seems to be 2.5... |
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| 10:23.46 | ScaredyCat | 0.202 |
| 10:23.50 | ScaredyCat | the default |
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| 10:36.42 | torpor | ok |
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| 10:36.51 | torpor | now i've really screwed my whole thing up. |
| 10:36.52 | torpor | damnit. |
| 10:36.58 | torpor | can't ssh to my SD image any more. |
| 10:37.01 | torpor | can't open a terminal |
| 10:37.02 | torpor | gah! |
| 10:38.10 | torpor | so which image should i try next, to give me a movie-playing neo1973 that i can use this afternoon for a demo? |
| 10:40.40 | CM | I haven't been able to ssh to my neo for a while either.. |
| 10:40.50 | CM | But I blame that on my gentoo ;) |
| 10:41.44 | SpeedEvil | B |
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| 10:51.34 | torpor | well now i'm just burning the image/filesystem i made yesterday .. so hopefully that will work. |
| 10:51.46 | torpor | and then i'll do my movie demo and try to debug my SD filesystem later. damn. |
| 10:52.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1287 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:52.02 | cdbot2 | * * No icon indication of Bluetooth, GPS, WiFi |
| 10:52.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1287 |
| 10:52.07 | torpor | i really wish someone would step up to the plate and publish an "awesome openmoko SD image" that has everything in it .. ;) |
| 10:52.30 | torpor | i want a multi-boot config too - qtopia, default openmoko factory, awesome-openmoko-on-SD .. |
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| 10:54.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1288 has been created by will(AT)openmoko.com |
| 10:54.01 | cdbot2 | * * No power option for Wifi in power menu |
| 10:54.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1288 |
| 10:54.49 | torpor | can someone tell me what dinge is all about? |
| 10:55.45 | Marcel_M | torpor: dont you know my monster-images? |
| 10:55.55 | torpor | Marcel_M: not yet! :) |
| 10:56.00 | torpor | tell me all about it. |
| 10:56.08 | torpor | <-- a bit behind on the openmoko exciting news. |
| 10:56.23 | Marcel_M | torpor: my server is down right now |
| 10:56.29 | torpor | doh |
| 10:56.36 | thomasgruebler | mhm |
| 10:56.48 | Marcel_M | ill paste the packages in it |
| 10:57.31 | torpor | ok |
| 10:57.57 | Marcel_M | mom (my pastebin is down too) |
| 10:58.44 | Marcel_M | torpor: http://pastebin.com/m5bed94fa |
| 10:59.04 | torpor | nice. |
| 10:59.25 | torpor | what is synergy? |
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| 10:59.37 | torpor | ooh .. navit onboard too .. |
| 10:59.40 | torpor | where do i get your image? |
| 10:59.41 | Marcel_M | torpor: its a bit big (~180mb packed) |
| 10:59.54 | torpor | i'm booting-from-SD (1gig SD card) anyway so thats okay with me! :) |
| 11:00.10 | Marcel_M | ok |
| 11:00.26 | torpor | maybe we can talk about how to make an SD-image available on sunday .. |
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| 11:00.32 | Marcel_M | torpor: my server is down right now |
| 11:00.42 | Marcel_M | yeah thats the best |
| 11:01.30 | torpor | ok |
| 11:01.47 | torpor | in the meantime i'll just go with my mokomakefile-built image and hope i can get mplayer working on it .. |
| 11:01.59 | Marcel_M | there are diffent images on my rep (eg navigation ,sdcard,underground,monster,maybe ill add agames image too) |
| 11:02.25 | torpor | can you make your monster-SD image include *everything* in the otehr images? i'm mostly interested in having an 'everything' image, personally .. ;) |
| 11:02.47 | Marcel_M | thats right now ;) |
| 11:03.05 | torpor | you mean you have that already? |
| 11:03.05 | torpor | \/clear |
| 11:03.09 | SpeedEvil | torpor: with a native build tree too! |
| 11:03.37 | torpor | great! |
| 11:03.42 | torpor | heh heh |
| 11:03.49 | torpor | i want to run mokomakefile on my neo .. |
| 11:03.53 | fredthecat | Are the any other use issues when between MicroSD and MicroSDHC, other than you can't boot off MicroSDHC (but you can use it as a filesystem) [assuming that is correct] |
| 11:04.05 | Marcel_M | yes i included most of the packages from the other images into the monster |
| 11:04.22 | torpor | okay then i will try the monster image out with you on sunday then, how about that? |
| 11:04.33 | Marcel_M | torpor: great! |
| 11:04.57 | Marcel_M | fredthecat: you can boot from sdhc |
| 11:04.59 | torpor | okay it looks like i'm finally back to having a bootable neo.. |
| 11:05.07 | torpor | my mokomakefile image works now. |
| 11:05.38 | torpor | i really wish there was a way to set the network/usb-gadget ip address with a GUI .. its a terrible nuisance that i have to do it in terminal .. |
| 11:05.47 | torpor | i guess i'll try to add settingsgui .. ;) |
| 11:05.59 | torpor | d'oh! i spoke too soon .. NO GUI! |
| 11:06.00 | torpor | wtf? |
| 11:06.08 | torpor | sitting at an angstrom boot-prompt console .. |
| 11:06.12 | torpor | what to do now .. |
| 11:06.23 | Marcel_M | fredthecat: take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Boot_from_SDHC |
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| 11:06.39 | fredthecat | So it it fully supported using, say, a 8Gb MicroSDHC? |
| 11:06.57 | fredthecat | (oh... just reading link now) |
| 11:07.15 | Marcel_M | yeah im using a 4gb and a 6gb josch is using a 8gb |
| 11:07.32 | torpor | i have a 4gb |
| 11:07.37 | torpor | hope thats enough! |
| 11:07.56 | Marcel_M | torpor: it should |
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| 11:08.14 | torpor | why isn't the GUI starting, damnit .. |
| 11:08.50 | fredthecat | Do any of use routinely use the "boot from SDHC workaround" on a regular basis? |
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| 11:10.35 | torpor | heh? wtf? boko:~/hak j$ ssh root@192.168.0.202 |
| 11:10.35 | torpor | root@192.168.0.202's password: |
| 11:10.35 | torpor | Usage: /etc/init.d/dbus {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload} |
| 11:10.57 | Marcel_M | fredthecat: i use autoboot from sdhc (i wrote what i have done to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Autoboot_from_SDHC) |
| 11:11.52 | Marcel_M | torpor: you updated your build? |
| 11:12.09 | torpor | yup |
| 11:12.43 | torpor | i'll try a new bild as of today though. |
| 11:12.51 | torpor | very annoying |
| 11:12.59 | Marcel_M | torpor: jup |
| 11:13.00 | torpor | Marcel_M: is there an easy way to get one of your images and use it? |
| 11:13.14 | Marcel_M | i got no place to put it |
| 11:13.20 | torpor | how big? |
| 11:13.39 | SpeedEvil | bittorrent? |
| 11:13.40 | torpor | or does anyone know of a good image i can use to do this movie-playing thing? |
| 11:14.00 | torpor | ScaredyCat: i'd use your image (have in the past) but it seems to be b0rked too right now .. |
| 11:14.21 | ScaredyCat | hrrmmm.... I'm running it! |
| 11:14.29 | torpor | but how is it that its bokred then? |
| 11:14.46 | torpor | can you give me links to your images that you're running - maybe i dl'ed the wrong thing yesterday .. |
| 11:14.47 | ScaredyCat | I don't know - you didn't say what was wrong |
| 11:15.05 | torpor | what was wrong: it doesn't boot the GUI, all i get is an openmoko splash screen with some dudes face. |
| 11:19.26 | ScaredyCat | http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01.jffs2 |
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| 11:19.47 | ScaredyCat | with |
| 11:19.48 | torpor | thats the one i tried |
| 11:19.49 | ScaredyCat | http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/uImage-2.6.24+svnr4194-r4165-r3-neo1973.bin |
| 11:20.06 | torpor | i'll dl them both again now and try again then tell you what i see okay? |
| 11:20.24 | ScaredyCat | k |
| 11:21.15 | ScaredyCat | if you can ssh in and try to start x with the /etc/init.d script you should get any errors reported... |
| 11:21.21 | ScaredyCat | but I don;t see any |
| 11:21.32 | torpor | i cannot ssh in with my image - some fubar about dbus init .. |
| 11:21.46 | torpor | dl'ing your image now |
| 11:21.55 | torpor | will report to you progress in 20 minutes or so .. |
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| 11:22.44 | ScaredyCat | k |
| 11:22.51 | ScaredyCat | goes back to hoovering |
| 11:23.03 | torpor | damn the uboot timeout is annoying.. |
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| 11:25.18 | torpor | okay ScaredyCat i'm flashing your jffs2 now (kernel is done already) and i will go have lunch and then let you know how it goes after lunch... |
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| 11:35.32 | CM | argh.. Can't ssh in, and I cant write on that shitty multi-tap kb in the terminal (back doesn't work for instance) |
| 11:35.37 | CM | takes a walk instead |
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| 11:48.38 | torpor | ScaredyCat: booting now. |
| 11:48.50 | torpor | if this doesn't work i'm going to use the image i just finished building.. |
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| 11:50.55 | torpor | ScaredyCat: you there? |
| 11:51.03 | torpor | its sitting at the openmoko screen with the guys face on it. |
| 11:51.08 | torpor | doing nothing. |
| 11:52.45 | thos | torpor, sounds like your xinit script is broken |
| 11:52.59 | torpor | not mine, scaredy's .. |
| 11:53.05 | torpor | i'm ssh'ed in .. what do i check? |
| 11:53.08 | thos | torpor, try ssh-ing in an |
| 11:53.19 | thos | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.34 | torpor | ok, same result - openmoko logo screen with dudes face. |
| 11:53.38 | torpor | no errors from xserver-nodm. |
| 11:54.22 | torpor | now what? |
| 11:54.23 | thos | errors are redirected |
| 11:54.33 | thos | can't remember what the log file is |
| 11:54.43 | thos | torpor, try an image from the buildhost? |
| 11:54.46 | torpor | okay so now there is the icon screen. |
| 11:54.55 | torpor | ScaredyCats' images.. |
| 11:55.18 | torpor | i guess i should note that there is *no* sim card in, so maybe there's just a long timeout on the network search or something .. ? |
| 11:55.44 | thos | nope |
| 11:55.52 | torpor | i gotta say its no fun looking up ScaredyCats nostrils .. |
| 11:55.53 | thos | shouldn't be |
| 11:56.26 | torpor | i see the icon bar at the top with usb/bt/battery indicatros .. usb is on green. and i see 'not searching' messages at the botom, over and over and over.. and scaredycats nostril pic too |
| 11:56.52 | thos | well done |
| 11:57.43 | torpor | well this is useless to me, so i'll wipe it and put my own image on there .. |
| 11:58.13 | ScaredyCat | you have no sim! |
| 11:58.20 | ScaredyCat | slaps torpor |
| 11:58.24 | torpor | right |
| 11:58.28 | torpor | since when do i need a sim? |
| 11:58.29 | ScaredyCat | turn off gsm then |
| 11:58.55 | torpor | i'll put a sim in tonight and leave it there. but fr now i need to demo these damn movies. |
| 11:58.59 | torpor | how do i do that? |
| 11:59.21 | ScaredyCat | so it is working.. |
| 11:59.35 | torpor | i guess there's a requirement that the phone have a sim card, eh? |
| 11:59.36 | ScaredyCat | the first time you boot after flashing some stuff goes on,... |
| 11:59.39 | torpor | did not know about that. |
| 11:59.43 | thos | it's not a phone |
| 11:59.53 | ScaredyCat | it might even be trying to copy contacts off your sim... |
| 11:59.56 | thos | it's a portable device |
| 12:00.17 | torpor | thos: thats how i use it. i don't care about the phone services, just the fact that i can build software for it and run GPS too .. ;) |
| 12:00.17 | ScaredyCat | it's billed as an open phone |
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| 12:01.11 | ScaredyCat | kill gsmd then |
| 12:01.21 | ScaredyCat | /etc/init.d/gsmd stop |
| 12:01.51 | torpor | never mind i put a sim in |
| 12:01.57 | torpor | but i don't remember the pin, hope that won't bother me. |
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| 12:03.00 | XorA | images here dont require SIM's what has ScaredyCat done? |
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| 12:03.17 | PBeck | hi |
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| 12:04.22 | torpor | ScaredyCat: youre images are borked! |
| 12:04.22 | torpor | root@fic-gta01:~# /etc/init.d/gsmd stop |
| 12:04.23 | torpor | Stopping GSM daemon: no /usr/sbin/gsmd found; none killed |
| 12:04.36 | torpor | root@fic-gta01:~# ls -l /usr/bin/gsm* |
| 12:04.36 | torpor | ls: /usr/bin/gsm*: No such file or directory |
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| 12:07.41 | ScaredyCat | slaps yall |
| 12:08.02 | torpor | bah! |
| 12:08.06 | torpor | <-- frustrated. |
| 12:09.19 | ScaredyCat | /usr/sbin |
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| 12:10.29 | ScaredyCat | what's in your /etc/release file ? |
| 12:10.44 | ScaredyCat | cat /etc/release |
| 12:10.44 | ScaredyCat | ScaredyCat release scaredycat-openmoko-devel-image-200803192231 |
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| 12:14.13 | torpor | too late i'm already burning my mokomakefile image scaredy .. ;) |
| 12:14.38 | torpor | sorry but i gotta demo these movies at 2pm.. |
| 12:14.42 | ScaredyCat | I think you have a bigger problem... |
| 12:14.51 | torpor | we shall see if thats the case or not |
| 12:14.57 | ScaredyCat | since it doesn't look in /usr/bin |
| 12:15.00 | torpor | i really wonder if i didn't skip a NAND re-factor step or something. |
| 12:15.07 | torpor | that /usr/bin was a typo .. |
| 12:15.29 | ScaredyCat | how old is your uboot too ? |
| 12:15.39 | torpor | its 1.2.0 |
| 12:15.48 | torpor | may 19 2007 |
| 12:15.51 | ScaredyCat | you sure it's clearing the flash on reflash? |
| 12:15.59 | torpor | dunno. no i'm not sure. |
| 12:15.59 | ScaredyCat | that's old |
| 12:16.04 | torpor | i don't really wanna hack uboot. |
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| 12:16.11 | ScaredyCat | fair enough |
| 12:16.19 | torpor | but it could be a problem sure |
| 12:16.21 | ScaredyCat | but the old uboot didn't clear the flash first |
| 12:16.35 | torpor | okay you convinced me, i'll put a new uboot on there |
| 12:16.42 | torpor | but if i brick, i'm gonna be really shitty. |
| 12:16.43 | ScaredyCat | so if the image is smaller you might get all weird stuff.. |
| 12:16.56 | ScaredyCat | well, you could manually erase the roofs nand |
| 12:17.00 | torpor | yeah i remember that now |
| 12:17.08 | ScaredyCat | then youwouldn;t need to do uboot |
| 12:17.19 | XorA | nand erase rootfs :-) just dont forget the rootfs bit |
| 12:17.22 | torpor | i'll just be brave and do uboot. |
| 12:17.32 | ScaredyCat | yes, otherwise you will get upset |
| 12:17.36 | torpor | ok |
| 12:17.41 | torpor | screw it i'm going to put a new uboot on there. |
| 12:17.59 | ScaredyCat | disavows torpor :P |
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| 12:18.17 | torpor | heh |
| 12:18.21 | torpor | you guys rock. |
| 12:19.09 | ScaredyCat | uboot done? |
| 12:19.22 | ScaredyCat | should only take 10 seconds... |
| 12:19.28 | torpor | hang on i'm doing it. |
| 12:19.49 | torpor | this the one? |
| 12:19.50 | torpor | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.23 | torpor | no wait |
| 12:20.24 | torpor | thats not right |
| 12:20.26 | torpor | argh! |
| 12:20.34 | ScaredyCat | it wont flash it |
| 12:20.39 | torpor | heh |
| 12:20.42 | ScaredyCat | it's the wrong dev |
| 12:20.49 | ScaredyCat | gta01 |
| 12:21.43 | torpor | okay new uboot is done. |
| 12:22.13 | torpor | here goes with the new images |
| 12:22.53 | torpor | phew |
| 12:22.56 | torpor | uboot looks good |
| 12:23.04 | torpor | except no more SD entry .. but i guess i can fix that.. |
| 12:23.50 | torpor | and now the jffs is on its way |
| 12:23.51 | torpor | phew |
| 12:23.57 | torpor | <-- happy to survive a uboot flash. |
| 12:24.05 | torpor | last time i did it so flippantly, i bricked my neo. |
| 12:24.14 | ScaredyCat | well, it's usually not *that* bad |
| 12:24.30 | torpor | i suppose not |
| 12:25.05 | ScaredyCat | waits for torpor to flash a ScaredyCat image again, then appologise |
| 12:25.33 | ScaredyCat | disrespecting my images. |
| 12:25.37 | torpor | nope! |
| 12:25.40 | torpor | not gonna do it. |
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| 12:25.41 | torpor | no time! |
| 12:25.44 | torpor | ;) |
| 12:25.47 | torpor | maybe on sunday. |
| 12:25.59 | torpor | would be nice to run your image again scaredy but i really don't have time right now .. |
| 12:26.26 | ScaredyCat | who are you demoing to ? |
| 12:26.33 | hhf423 | moin |
| 12:27.00 | torpor | i have to demo some movies that were made for my band at 2pm, and i wanna use the neo so i can have my laptop elsewhere ... |
| 12:27.13 | ScaredyCat | lo hhf423.. long time no see |
| 12:27.17 | ScaredyCat | ahh |
| 12:28.03 | ScaredyCat | \o/ |
| 12:28.06 | ScaredyCat | has food! |
| 12:28.10 | hhf423 | hi ScaredyCat, same here :-) |
| 12:29.10 | hhf423 | ScaredyCat: say whats the difference between your build and the standard openmoko build? whats in the extra 7mb? |
| 12:29.29 | torpor | a pic of his nostrils! |
| 12:29.34 | ScaredyCat | lol |
| 12:29.38 | hhf423 | and does anyone know if powermanagement improved over the last two or three weeks? |
| 12:29.42 | ScaredyCat | scummvm is in... |
| 12:29.52 | hhf423 | torpor: ah, yes, I know that! |
| 12:30.05 | ScaredyCat | ermm some other bits too... |
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| 12:30.18 | ScaredyCat | and they are bleeding edge ones too |
| 12:30.22 | XorA | wouldnt expect any improvements in power management |
| 12:30.38 | ScaredyCat | s/power// |
| 12:30.53 | XorA | every one at OM corp is working on gta02 |
| 12:31.03 | ScaredyCat | :( |
| 12:31.08 | hhf423 | doh |
| 12:31.27 | XorA | and as hardware is just plane broken for gta01 I dont see much interest |
| 12:31.36 | hhf423 | given that I paid less for my iphone than for GTA01 ... |
| 12:31.42 | ScaredyCat | XorA: at least the AUX button went back in :) |
| 12:31.51 | XorA | ScaredyCat: yeah I saw your bug entry :-) |
| 12:32.18 | hhf423 | does the dfu dance |
| 12:32.28 | torpor | ok, wtf? now my neo boots but i get a grey screen .. |
| 12:32.33 | torpor | not fun. |
| 12:32.45 | hhf423 | grey? thats just X then, without anything |
| 12:32.52 | hhf423 | do you have a cursor? |
| 12:33.00 | torpor | okay now its finally given me the task manager.. |
| 12:33.07 | hhf423 | err, an "x" |
| 12:33.33 | XorA | grey screen, thats an old image then |
| 12:33.49 | hhf423 | hahaha, old and grey |
| 12:33.50 | torpor | its the one i built with mokomakefile today. |
| 12:33.59 | XorA | I fixed that bug 2 days ago |
| 12:34.00 | torpor | and also it looks like everything is borked. |
| 12:34.45 | ScaredyCat | I bet you're om not oe.dev |
| 12:34.54 | ScaredyCat | that's why you get my nostrils |
| 12:34.54 | torpor | is this right? |
| 12:34.55 | torpor | Downloading http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/Packages.gz |
| 12:35.09 | ScaredyCat | yes.. |
| 12:35.16 | ScaredyCat | it's one of the default feeds |
| 12:35.18 | torpor | wtf, should i be on om or oe.dev, and how do i tell? i'm using mokomakefile |
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| 12:35.46 | hhf423 | hmm, gta02 still april? that has not changes for a while, so does that mean its going to happen? |
| 12:35.47 | ScaredyCat | gets dejavu |
| 12:35.53 | XorA | as of 9am taiwan time, OM and OE.dev are the same |
| 12:36.07 | ScaredyCat | when was that? |
| 12:36.07 | torpor | thats what i thought |
| 12:36.10 | hhf423 | flashflashflash |
| 12:36.14 | ScaredyCat | ie what time is it now |
| 12:36.17 | XorA | ScaredyCat: about 11 hours ago |
| 12:36.32 | torpor | so i did make update openmoko-devel-image about an hour ago .. |
| 12:36.38 | torpor | should i have done make update-bleeding-edge instead? |
| 12:36.42 | XorA | synced both repos of everything apart from qtopia shit |
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| 12:37.49 | hhf423 | ok, here is something funny: |
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| 12:38.19 | hhf423 | when I boot the neo cold, it stops on the first graphic screen and stays there forever |
| 12:38.38 | hhf423 | when I first boot into uboot and then boot from there, it works |
| 12:39.01 | hhf423 | how can that be different? |
| 12:39.06 | torpor | same problem i'm having!!! |
| 12:39.18 | XorA | old uboot doesnt work |
| 12:39.27 | XorA | unles usb is plugged in |
| 12:39.36 | hhf423 | really? for me this started out of nowhere. not after a change of uboot or so |
| 12:39.44 | XorA | so either use aux button to get menu, or plug in usb |
| 12:39.55 | torpor | i had this issue all day until i updated to the new uboot just 20 minutes ago or so .. |
| 12:39.56 | XorA | hhf423: yes its a six months old bug |
| 12:40.12 | hhf423 | oh, which uboot is that? |
| 12:40.22 | XorA | was fixed in uboot about a month or so ago |
| 12:40.27 | torpor | Marcel_M: after all this i'm really looking forward to checking out your monster image .. ;) |
| 12:40.28 | hhf423 | I see |
| 12:40.40 | torpor | i'm running 1.3.2-rc2 now .. march 20 2008 |
| 12:40.59 | torpor | ScaredyCat: burning your image now.. ;) |
| 12:41.08 | hhf423 | so which uboot to use then? can you point to a version I can download? |
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| 12:41.57 | hhf423 | oooh, the USB symbol goes green when I plug in. how nice |
| 12:42.34 | hhf423 | darn, put in wrong pin. takes over a minute to ask me again |
| 12:42.59 | torpor | i hate pins |
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| 12:49.06 | torpor | ok scaredy .. it boots! |
| 12:49.11 | torpor | lets see if it plays my movies .. |
| 12:50.43 | torpor | gah! entered pin too many times wrong .. what do i do now? |
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| 12:51.06 | XorA | phone network for PUK :-) |
| 12:51.26 | hhf423 | yeah, you should probably do that in an other phone |
| 12:51.43 | torpor | geh. |
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| 12:57.31 | hhf423 | say, heard anything from android? can we expect a build for GTA01? |
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| 12:59.52 | XorA | android requires armv5 |
| 13:00.07 | hhf423 | doh |
| 13:00.17 | hhf423 | hmm, celtunes server is down? |
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| 13:00.33 | torpor | ScaredyCat: how come there are no repo's in your image? |
| 13:00.39 | torpor | hhf423: yes celtunes is down |
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| 13:05.24 | torpor | apologizes to ScaredyCat for harshing his images.. |
| 13:05.26 | hhf423 | hu? the AUX button does not do anything anymore? |
| 13:06.30 | summatusmentis | XorA: is the armv5 cpu in freerunner? why would fic use older cpus? |
| 13:06.59 | thos | summatusmentis, because it's cheaper? |
| 13:07.06 | thos | gosh, use your loaf |
| 13:07.14 | hhf423 | so also no adroid on freerunner? |
| 13:08.01 | hhf423 | freerunner will look like the gta01, right? still this big frame around the display, yes? |
| 13:08.06 | summatusmentis | thos: that makes sense I guess, maybe I just like cutting edge too much |
| 13:08.28 | thos | summatusmentis, really, there is nothing very exciting about armv5 |
| 13:08.38 | thos | summatusmentis, there is actually very little difference afaik |
| 13:09.19 | summatusmentis | mm |
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| 13:10.38 | mjr | if android is going to be released as free software, one would think it could be ported to v4... |
| 13:11.10 | hhf423 | torpor: where would I find the uboot you are using? |
| 13:11.17 | mjr | it's not like the applications would care, being that they run on a VM |
| 13:11.25 | hhf423 | torpor: or did you build it yourself? |
| 13:11.31 | XorA | summatusmentis: older CPUs? samsung is making new generations of armv4 cpu all the time |
| 13:12.23 | XorA | freerunner is s3c2442 which is slight improvement on s3c2410 but basically the same cpu |
| 13:12.38 | torpor | hhf423: yes its the one that mokomakefile built for me today |
| 13:13.10 | summatusmentis | XorA: I was looking at the v4 and v5 |
| 13:13.26 | hhf423 | yawns |
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| 13:16.53 | torpor | whats in the underground image, ScaredyCat ? |
| 13:17.26 | hhf423 | torpor: I think thats "dinge" |
| 13:17.47 | torpor | oh cool i'm gonna try it out then. |
| 13:19.03 | torpor | gotta go see you guys later! |
| 13:19.25 | hhf423 | cu |
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| 16:03.09 | microlith | ooh april |
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| 16:14.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1289 has been created by mdt(AT)emdete.de |
| 16:14.03 | cdbot2 | * * PSC (power saving commands in muxer mode) seems to be broken |
| 16:14.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1289 |
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| 16:15.50 | CVirus | microlith: let's just hope that it's not later |
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| 17:39.11 | Niluge_KiWi | Hi |
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| 18:00.31 | BabelO | hi |
| 18:01.37 | BabelO | i just build openmoko for my Blueangel, i use that line in Xserver ARGS="$ARGS -dpi 170 -screen 240x320 -hide-cursor -root-ppm /usr/share/pixmaps/xsplash-qvga.ppm" but i not see all on screen |
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| 19:40.05 | Niluge_KiWi | Hi |
| 19:43.45 | simon___1 | hi |
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| 19:47.22 | Niluge_KiWi | Is there anybody in there? |
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| 20:15.51 | yoyo | hi all |
| 20:17.12 | Niluge_KiWi | hi |
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| 20:35.22 | tuxi | hi, anywhere else an confirmation that freerunner will be released end of april |
| 20:36.03 | mwester | Nope |
| 20:36.33 | tuxi | read it on an german news page |
| 20:36.39 | mwester | Just what you can read on the community email archives. |
| 20:36.50 | tuxi | which said you can preorder and will be released end april |
| 20:37.34 | edistar | tuxi: probably |
| 20:37.48 | edistar | tuxi: you can preorder |
| 20:38.00 | BlueRaid | tuxi: golem sagt immer die wahrheit :-P |
| 20:38.14 | edistar | tuxi: btw: #neo1973-germany if you want to type german :) |
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| 20:40.13 | Niluge_KiWi | anybody knows to who I should talk for the Google Summer of Code? |
| 20:40.35 | edistar | Niluge_KiWi: mickeyl |
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| 20:41.27 | Niluge_KiWi | edistar: okay |
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| 20:52.08 | emdete | ah, ja, diese leidige liste, die so viel neid erzeugt. mir macht des gta02 mehr arbeit als gewuenscht... |
| 20:52.58 | BlueRaid | emdete: falsche sprache :-P |
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| 21:04.45 | HOTR | Does anyone on know where the games on Openmoko are based? (are they OE recipies or are they OM specific baking?) |
| 21:08.05 | emdete | BlueRaid: not only that, it's event the wrong channel |
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| 21:10.00 | abraxa__ | HOTR: What do you mean by "where are they based"? |
| 21:10.02 | balrog-kun | they're OE i think but i have no idea where |
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| 21:43.48 | pH5 | HOTR: oh-puzzles |
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| 21:55.15 | Tanuva | Is there a solution for this "trying to execute code outside RAM/ROM"-error? Ive searched a bit but didnt find any answer, just questions... |
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| 21:58.54 | webjames | i'm having a problem with qemu, i get this error: make: *** [flash-qemu-official] Error 255 |
| 21:59.05 | webjames | openmoko/flash.sh: line 96: kill: (-7077) - No such process |
| 21:59.11 | webjames | what does this mean? |
| 22:00.37 | webjames | i'm using moko make file. i have installed all the dependencies listed for ubuntu on the wiki |
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| 22:03.14 | webjames | anyone else using qemu with openmoko on ubuntu? |
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| 22:04.10 | balrog-kun | webjames: you need to paste a couple of preceeding those for anyone to be able to guess anything |
| 22:04.26 | balrog-kun | wait |
| 22:04.28 | balrog-kun | (but try to use a pastebin!) |
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| 22:04.45 | balrog-kun | *couple of lines |
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| 22:05.56 | webjames | okay, one moment |
| 22:06.34 | webjames | here we go, thank you: http://dpaste.com/40623/ |
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| 22:10.11 | webjames | balrog-kun, i have the latest qemu version |
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| 22:56.59 | balrog-kun | webjames: sorry, had a long phone call |
| 22:57.22 | ewon | awaits the freerunner |
| 22:57.23 | webjames | hey, it's okay i just tired downgrading gcc, to no avail |
| 22:57.24 | balrog-kun | webjames: i suspect it's the u-boot bug that you're seeing |
| 22:57.38 | webjames | balrog-kun, damn |
| 22:57.39 | ewon | now that I have proper internets again, I must see about getting a toolchain up and running |
| 22:57.49 | balrog-kun | u-boot broke on an update about three weeks ago and a fix just went in today i think |
| 22:57.59 | webjames | balrog-kun, is there a fix? |
| 22:58.05 | balrog-kun | it may be in the buildhost builds in a couple of days |
| 22:58.13 | webjames | balrog-kun, ahh okay |
| 22:58.20 | balrog-kun | webjames: yes, i made one because folks were blaming qemu :p |
| 22:59.07 | balrog-kun | webjames: in the meantime try an older u-boot |
| 22:59.35 | webjames | balrog-kun, yeah, i read that. how can i use an older uboot with mokomakefile? |
| 23:00.06 | balrog-kun | webjames: this one may work: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/images/neo1973/u-boot-gta01bv4-1.3.0+git20071201+svnr3484-r0.bin |
| 23:01.38 | balrog-kun | download the file and replace your images/openmoko/u-boot-something with it |
| 23:02.07 | HOTR | Does anyone on know where the games on Openmoko are based? (are they OE recipies or are they OM specific baking?) |
| 23:02.42 | HOTR | I tried digging through the OE site, but I don't see anything too useful there. |
| 23:02.43 | balrog-kun | they're oe recipies afaik |
| 23:02.51 | ewon | any word on how fic are going to be selling the device? |
| 23:03.13 | ewon | the online shop solution for gta01 got overwhelmed quickly |
| 23:03.34 | HOTR | balrog-kun: Ah cool. Are there any docs on them? I'm trying to put some together for Users for them |
| 23:03.49 | webjames | balrog-kun, brilliant! thanks for the help. gd work on the fix as well. happy easter! |
| 23:03.56 | balrog-kun | HOTR: no idea, you may find more luck in #oe maybe |
| 23:04.08 | balrog-kun | webjames: :) |
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| 23:06.17 | HOTR | balrog-kun: Thanks, will do :) |
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| 23:12.01 | abraxa__ | HOTR: The package is oh-puzzles and they were written by some OpenedHand guy as it's in their SVN - but no docs |
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| 23:13.56 | HOTR | abraxa__: Ah, cool .. thanks for the pointer :) |
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| 23:21.14 | webjames | openmoko is looking really good. i guess it'll be a bit snappier on the freerunner |
| 23:21.29 | HOTR | abraxa__: Do you have a URL for their SVN? |
| 23:22.20 | HOTR | (the oh-puzzles stuff... I see a bunch of other stuff they have in svn) |
| 23:22.57 | balrog-kun | the recipe should have the url in it |
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| 23:24.53 | HOTR | balrog-kun: Duh! :P Sorry, I'm not in (technical) thinking mode here :) |
| 23:25.08 | balrog-kun | svn search at svn.o-hand.com yields http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/puzzles/ |
| 23:27.35 | HOTR | balrog-kun: Merci beaucoup. It doesn't show up as a project root, and I didn't think to look in the recipie (or search). |
| 23:30.17 | Tanuva | balrog-kun: you said the uboot-image you linked for webjames doesnt have this strange bug anymore. I just built with mokomakefile; how may I make it recognize this changed image instead of the one(s) in build/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/ ? |
| 23:30.52 | Tanuva | or am I completely wrong in that directory? |
| 23:31.03 | webjames | in your dir there is a dir called images in the same dir as the make file |
| 23:31.29 | webjames | get the image file and name the same as the uboot currently in there and replace it |
| 23:31.46 | Tanuva | no, there is not (yet?). I have built it successfully, but qemu-local fails because of this issue |
| 23:31.55 | webjames | so in mine it's openmoko/images where mokomakefile is in openmoko/ |
| 23:32.23 | Tanuva | I dont have a folder "images" there... strange. |
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| 23:33.03 | webjames | and you've got the makefile and typed make qemu |
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| 23:33.23 | webjames | i guess it fails before it runs the download |
| 23:33.27 | Tanuva | no, I have done make openmoko-devel-image and then tried make qemu-local |
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| 23:33.45 | Tanuva | no download at all, Im building my own image |
| 23:34.09 | webjames | oh, i'm sorry i don't know about that |
| 23:34.17 | Tanuva | because I didnt tell you, sorry :) |
| 23:34.30 | balrog-kun | Tanuva: if you build a current (today's) image, it should be free of this bug |
| 23:35.05 | Tanuva | huh... I got it appr. 6 hours ago, may I have to update? |
| 23:35.19 | balrog-kun | Tanuva: and you can see the bug still? |
| 23:35.45 | Tanuva | yes, I think so. Wait a moment, I can regenerate the output and paste it somewhere |
| 23:36.07 | univac | balrog-kun: jabber? |
| 23:36.41 | balrog-kun | Tanuva: this is the commit that was supposed to fix it: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-March/003873.html |
| 23:37.03 | balrog-kun | you can apply it manually even |
| 23:37.09 | Tanuva | Im doing another update just to be sure I have it... |
| 23:37.14 | balrog-kun | univac: i'm not at my pc, no jabber here |
| 23:37.23 | balrog-kun | univac: just got back from brazil :) |
| 23:37.24 | univac | k |
| 23:37.30 | univac | ohoo :) |
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| 23:44.35 | Tanuva | balrog-kun: my uboot-version should have the fix: U-Boot 1.3.2-rc2 (Mar 21 2008 - 21:01:13) |
| 23:45.16 | Tanuva | where 21:01 is nearly 3:45 hours ago |
| 23:45.26 | balrog-kun | that's the build date, not source date i think, but yeah, it may be a different bug also |
| 23:45.32 | Tanuva | hmm |
| 23:46.09 | Tanuva | but if I have downloaded the source shortly before, they should at least halfway fit... |
| 23:46.17 | balrog-kun | yep |
| 23:46.48 | balrog-kun | best way to be sure is to look at the line in that .c file in u-boot source and check if it has the ">> 2" |
| 23:47.17 | balrog-kun | filename is drivers/video/cfb_console.c |
| 23:52.30 | Tanuva | wtf is happening here... I dont seem to have any u-boot source here :/ |
| 23:53.42 | Tanuva | it isnt this "INHERIT += "rm_work"" that makes it deleting the sourcecode, is it? |
| 23:53.54 | Tanuva | *delete |
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| 23:55.57 | balrog-kun | i have no idea but if it was removed everytime, it would have to be entirely rebuilt everytime |
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| 23:56.10 | balrog-kun | i.e. lots of wasted time even on a small change |