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| 00:21.24 | paron_work | man, sure would be helpful if this phone made some kind of noise when people called |
| 00:21.50 | SpeedEvil | Mine does. |
| 00:22.03 | paron_work | but looking at the init messages, looks like the sound server died? |
| 00:22.36 | paron_work | maybe today's scaredycat release will fare better than yesterday's :) |
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| 00:26.22 | paron_work | man |
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| 00:26.47 | paron_work | the freerunner model doesn't look nearly as sexy as the 1973 does, from a purely aesthetic standpoint |
| 00:27.06 | SpeedEvil | Err - I'm pretty sure the case is almost identical. |
| 00:27.22 | SpeedEvil | Only having translucent buttons lets you tell that it's not the same case |
| 00:27.39 | paron_work | I thought they removed the shiny metal rim? |
| 00:27.53 | abraxa_ | SpeedEvil: If the image on the wiki's main page is a picture of the mass-market case then I have to disappoint :( |
| 00:28.17 | paron_work | yeah, looking at the difference between these two: |
| 00:28.23 | paron_work | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/1112FIC326x550.jpg/140px-1112FIC326x550.jpg |
| 00:28.29 | paron_work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GTA02.jpg |
| 00:28.39 | paron_work | I'd definetly say the former looks nicer |
| 00:29.08 | SpeedEvil | That loks to me like a very bad render |
| 00:29.53 | paron_work | it does look pretty damn grainy |
| 00:30.19 | paron_work | I hope it's a bad render. |
| 00:31.03 | abraxa_ | Well, I don't know who that Coolcat person is that changed the picture |
| 00:32.57 | mickey|away | in reality the total black one looks pretty good. it has more underground / geeky style than gta01 |
| 00:33.13 | mickey|away | what counts though is the additional features, don't you think? ;) |
| 00:33.31 | paron_work | I disagree with underground/geeky style |
| 00:33.33 | mickey|away | abraxa_: i have a nearly mass market model now, we can meet soon if you want |
| 00:33.54 | mickey|away | paron_work: sure, in the end it's taste |
| 00:34.00 | abraxa_ | mickey|away: I'd love to, especially to discuss the eds replacement ;) |
| 00:34.23 | paron_work | man I need to brush up on my C/C++ skills |
| 00:34.29 | paron_work | I've been living in a python world for way too long |
| 00:34.50 | mickey|away | abraxa_: the week from 3th to 9th of March looks good, after that i'm away for until end of March |
| 00:35.10 | abraxa_ | mickey|away: Ah, dang... I'm out of country till 15th =( |
| 00:35.42 | mickey|away | paron_work: not necessarily. we will increase the importance of python in the platform by an order of magnitude soon... |
| 00:35.52 | paron_work | mickey|away: really? :) |
| 00:35.54 | paron_work | :D |
| 00:35.59 | paron_work | :D :D :D |
| 00:36.04 | mickey|away | abraxa_: hehe, sounds like end of march then ;) |
| 00:36.20 | abraxa_ | mickey|away: I'd say April then for a meeting... think we can discuss the eds issue these days? I'd like to start asap |
| 00:36.20 | mickey|away | yeah |
| 00:36.31 | paron_work | wifi + python + phone + gps |
| 00:36.35 | mickey|away | abraxa_: sure. we talk about that on irc |
| 00:36.39 | paron_work | *the things I could do* |
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| 00:36.44 | mickey|away | *nod* |
| 00:37.02 | mickey|away | no matter whether OM Inc. supports that or not. we will push the middleware to a level where you can easily do all the things you want in Py |
| 00:37.14 | mickey|away | it's going to happen. all will be well |
| 00:37.17 | mickey|away | and now i'm going to bed |
| 00:37.18 | abraxa_ | mickey|away: Great. Are you going to be around tomorrow? I never quite know when you bug you ;) |
| 00:37.19 | mickey|away | g'night |
| 00:37.20 | paron_work | great ;) |
| 00:37.24 | paron_work | g'night |
| 00:37.39 | mickey|away | abraxa_: yes, tomorrow sounds good. will be here from 12:00 or so |
| 00:37.57 | abraxa_ | mickey|zzZZzz: Awesome, I'll hit you up tomorrow then. Good night! |
| 00:38.04 | mickey|zzZZzz | righto. n8 |
| 00:38.23 | mickey|zzZZzz | fear not. with a decent perl-dbus binding you can be on board as well |
| 00:38.41 | paron_work | uhoh |
| 00:38.55 | paron_work | I hear an ancient lisp developer shaking his fist |
| 00:38.59 | paron_work | somewhere in the mountains |
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| 03:08.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03werner * r4133 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/fix-i2c-s3c2410-resume-race.patch: |
| 03:08.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: fix-i2c.patch by Tim Niemeyer |
| 03:08.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: fix-i2c-s3c2410-resume-race.patch: |
| 03:08.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: - drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-s3c2410.c (s3c2410_i2c_driver): add suspend callback |
| 03:08.06 | CIA-16 | openmoko: also to 2410 driver |
| 03:08.10 | CIA-16 | openmoko: - drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-s3c2410.c (s3c24xx_i2c_doxfer): print suspend count on rejection |
| 03:12.22 | raster | bling |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03werner * r4134 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.24.x/patches/gta01-inputdevice.patch: |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Remove wakeup on HOLD, because the functionality is questionable, and the |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-16 | openmoko: circuit is actually broken by design. (Suggested by Andy Green.) |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-16 | openmoko: gta01-inputdevice.patch: |
| 03:14.48 | CIA-16 | openmoko: - drivers/input/keyboard/neo1973kbd.c (neo1973kbd_probe): do not wake up on |
| 03:14.52 | CIA-16 | openmoko: HOLD |
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| 04:33.30 | paroneayea | joy of joys |
| 04:33.33 | paroneayea | internets are working on my openmoko |
| 04:34.53 | paroneayea | however |
| 04:35.35 | paroneayea | hm |
| 04:35.51 | paroneayea | I guess I thought this microsd card had more space than it does? |
| 04:36.51 | paroneayea | I thought it was supposed to come with 512 mb of space. Either not all of it is mounted, or I might be wrong here |
| 04:39.27 | paroneayea | http://dpaste.com/37306/ |
| 04:39.32 | paroneayea | am I missing something? |
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| 04:42.26 | dvarnes | paroneayea: doesn't look like your sd card is mounted at all .. they are all the internal mounts |
| 04:42.47 | paroneayea | ah, well that would explain it I guess |
| 04:42.57 | paroneayea | what device should it show up as? |
| 04:43.10 | abraxa_ | paroneayea: It's not mounted. I assume you're using a 2.6.24 kernel? In those, SD support is/has been broken |
| 04:43.19 | paroneayea | abraxa_: aha |
| 04:43.36 | paroneayea | yep, sure enough |
| 04:43.44 | paroneayea | what kernel version might be recommended for now, then? |
| 04:43.44 | abraxa_ | It supposedly has been patched but I'm not sure if that patch made it into OE yet |
| 04:44.06 | abraxa_ | 2.6.22.5 |
| 04:44.13 | paroneayea | abraxa_: sweet, thdx |
| 04:44.19 | paroneayea | I'm going to flash right now :D |
| 04:44.36 | abraxa_ | No prob - just good luck finding an image that supports 2.6.22.5 cause you can't tell from the file name =\ |
| 04:44.44 | paroneayea | oh :( |
| 04:44.53 | abraxa_ | Just try |
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| 04:45.14 | abraxa_ | Can always dump the modules on the file sys if needed |
| 04:45.23 | paroneayea | true |
| 04:45.52 | abraxa_ | http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/modules-2.6.22.5-moko11+svnr3874-r13-neo1973.tgz just in case |
| 04:47.23 | paroneayea | abraxa_: sweet, thx |
| 04:49.06 | abraxa_ | np |
| 04:50.15 | paroneayea | now that I've got networking working, and know how to properly mount my sd card, it's time to start writing some python apps for this sucka |
| 04:51.23 | abraxa_ | hehe that's the spirit |
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| 05:38.10 | mwester-trip | abraxa_: Yes, the SD fix is in OE. |
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| 05:38.48 | mwester-trip | It just probably isn't in the svn versions being built by the (so-called) stable stuff, I suspect. |
| 05:40.43 | mwester-trip | You can check the svn version for the kernel, the fix appeared around svn 4096 or perhaps a few revs earlier. |
| 05:41.54 | summatusmentis | do we know if the software will be ready when freerunner is? |
| 05:48.17 | mwester-trip | summatusmentis: yes, we do know if it will be ready when the freerunner starts shipping... the answer is no, the software won't be anywhere close to ready! |
| 05:53.15 | wurp2 | abraxa_: Are you CoolCat on the wiki? |
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| 07:54.38 | ScaredyCat | wtf is 'HOLD' ? |
| 07:55.00 | ScaredyCat | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.00 | ScaredyCat | [2008-02-29 07:47:20] <CIA-16> [04:14] openmoko: circuit is actually broken by design. (Suggested by Andy Green.) |
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| 08:06.44 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:16.11 | ScaredyCat | :) |
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| 09:24.01 | blindcoder | moin |
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| 09:35.25 | TRIsoft | morning |
| 09:38.01 | dread | morinign |
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| 09:50.08 | ScaredyCat | lol... |
| 09:53.31 | Stephmw | only if it's published ;) |
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| 09:56.39 | ScaredyCat | well,.. |
| 09:56.58 | ScaredyCat | http://automated.it/asterisk/ |
| 09:57.03 | ScaredyCat | near the bottom |
| 09:57.26 | ScaredyCat | http://www.automated.it/files/ |
| 09:57.27 | ScaredyCat | even |
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| 09:57.31 | ScaredyCat | near the bottom |
| 09:57.53 | ScaredyCat | where 'Older Stuff' starts |
| 10:01.55 | ScaredyCat | the backend code was created: |
| 10:01.56 | ScaredyCat | # ls -lah lc.cgi |
| 10:01.56 | ScaredyCat | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3.6K Sep 11 2004 lc.cgi |
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| 10:25.17 | ScaredyCat | ls -alh avm.cgi |
| 10:25.17 | ScaredyCat | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1.5K Sep 8 2004 avm.cgi |
| 10:25.23 | ScaredyCat | might be better since: |
| 10:25.40 | ScaredyCat | $version = "Asterisk VM -> Symbian Phone Version 0.01"; |
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| 10:43.08 | ScaredyCat | is it me or is the community main page much more appealing than the official one ? |
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| 10:50.39 | ScaredyCat | just me then |
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| 11:19.44 | mohamed | hi all, does any one when the shop opens again? |
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| 11:26.21 | morricone | mohamed, as soon as GTA02 aka freerunner is ready |
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| 11:28.35 | mne | sorry |
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| 11:31.26 | mohamed | morricone: it was due March now it is due April, would it continue to be postponed ? :( |
| 11:31.57 | mjr | depends if it'll be ready in April |
| 11:32.19 | morricone | mohamed, no one here can answer this question ;) |
| 11:32.40 | XorA | community mailing list is the only place for these answers |
| 11:32.47 | mjr | GTA01 was delayed multiple times as well. Yet it did _eventually_ come out. |
| 11:33.33 | XorA | schedule is always made with assumption that hardware works, when hardware doesnt work delay is needed |
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| 12:27.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03werner * r4138 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/unbusy-i2c.patch: |
| 12:27.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Extended unbusying also to the GTA02. |
| 12:27.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: unbusy-i2c.patch: |
| 12:27.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: - board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c (neo1973_new_second, neo1973_on_key_pressed): do |
| 12:27.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: not poll incessantly but only when the PMU has posted an interrupt |
| 12:27.04 | CIA-16 | openmoko: - board/neo1973/gta02/gta02.c (have_int, pwr_int_pending): detect when one of |
| 12:27.08 | CIA-16 | openmoko: the interrupts we're looking for has occurred |
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| 12:54.59 | SpeedEvil | http://www.out-law.com/page-8875 threatened regulation of |
| 12:55.08 | SpeedEvil | international data roaming charges |
| 12:58.35 | madwoota | "stop pulling the wool over your customers eyes, or we will force you" |
| 12:58.37 | madwoota | nice |
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| 13:18.34 | respawn | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-February/013555.html |
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| 13:29.56 | sbeh | 25.02.2088 ... |
| 13:31.17 | SpeedEvil | Connect up the serrial UPS |
| 13:31.19 | SpeedEvil | oops |
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| 14:31.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03chris * r4139 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/phone-kit/moko-sms.c): |
| 14:31.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * src/phone-kit/moko-sms.c: (on_incoming_sms): |
| 14:31.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Decode UCS-2 messages correctly (thanks Erin Yueh) |
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| 14:45.51 | CIA-16 | freesmartphone.org: 03mickeyl * r86 10/trunk/software/pyneod/ (ChangeLog init.d.pyneod pyneod setup.py): pyneod: fix some install locations, rename start script |
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| 14:47.07 | ronny | yp |
| 14:47.28 | ronny | oh - due is april :/ |
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| 14:47.45 | ronny | im not sure if my current phone will last that long |
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| 14:49.20 | Shoragan | XorA, does opkg use .opk files instead of .ipk? |
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| 14:50.51 | XorA | Shoragan: no |
| 14:51.07 | Shoragan | so it stays .ipk? |
| 14:51.31 | XorA | ipk, is just another way of saying .deb anyway |
| 14:52.02 | XorA | I dont think the software actually cares what the extension is |
| 14:52.07 | Shoragan | ah, ok |
| 14:52.20 | Shoragan | but the generated files are still named .ipk |
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| 14:58.07 | XorA | Shoragan: we havent switched OE to use opkg-native yet |
| 14:58.19 | Shoragan | i know |
| 14:58.22 | XorA | Shoragan: but thomas would be the one to ask about whether to change extension |
| 14:58.30 | Shoragan | ok :) |
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| 15:07.28 | mickeyl | i think we should not change the extension until there's an actual format change |
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| 15:29.26 | ScaredyCat | yeah! |
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| 15:53.35 | abraxa_ | wurp2: Nope I'm not, I'm the one asking the question :) |
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| 16:10.28 | wurp2 | abraxa_: Ah, I just saw your name in the list of recent changes along with something about CoolCat |
| 16:10.43 | wurp2 | I remembered someone had asked who he was; obviously I didn't remember that it was you :-) |
| 16:10.48 | abraxa_ | hehe |
| 16:11.25 | abraxa_ | It's just as mickey_away said yesterday btw - the freerunner will come in an all-black case |
| 16:11.36 | abraxa_ | The picture on the main page is official |
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| 16:15.21 | wurp2 | thx for the info |
| 16:15.30 | wurp2 | Is there a high res pic available? |
| 16:15.54 | ScaredyCat | what no orange? |
| 16:15.58 | wurp2 | abraxa_: You work for FIC? |
| 16:16.19 | abraxa_ | "The source of the picture comes from our internal Products group. It is confirmed that the Neo FreeRunner (GTA02) will indeed be shipped with an entirely black case." is what CoolCat said |
| 16:16.47 | abraxa_ | wurp2: I kinda wish I did ;) |
| 16:17.17 | wurp2 | The problem is that those cool companies like that (particular multinational ones) know they don't have to pay as much to get great talent |
| 16:17.38 | wurp2 | So they don't, and I'm too much the software whore to take the cut to work at those great places :-/ |
| 16:18.44 | abraxa_ | It's not so much about the money. It's about working for the Good Guys ;) |
| 16:19.11 | ScaredyCat | there are no good guys... |
| 16:19.16 | ScaredyCat | except me of course ;) |
| 16:19.57 | abraxa_ | ScaredyCat, you're older than us. You're supposed to be bitter and spiteful! |
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| 16:20.24 | ScaredyCat | i can has arsemby codez? |
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| 16:20.27 | wurp2 | Hmm, older than me? (37 yrs) |
| 16:20.51 | ScaredyCat | abraxa_: old and an ex smoker.... |
| 16:20.56 | ScaredyCat | wurp2: yes |
| 16:22.00 | abraxa_ | ScaredyCat: Niiiiiice... so that means we can abuse you cause you're too weak to run away from us :) |
| 16:22.02 | diego71 | i rather prefer the old black-silver look |
| 16:22.22 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: Have you heard "This Old Man" by MC Frontalot? |
| 16:22.25 | ScaredyCat | abraxa_: my evil robots will find you though |
| 16:22.34 | diego71 | or we can make fool of him, cause we can just run away :) |
| 16:22.39 | abraxa_ | diego71: That's what I thought as well, though mickey said the all-black one doesn't look bad either.. we'll see |
| 16:22.55 | ScaredyCat | no wurp2 - not heard that |
| 16:23.35 | ScaredyCat | diego71: you can run all you like, I'm not moving from my chair... |
| 16:23.41 | wurp2 | 'tis free on his website. He's actually astonishingly good for an indie nerd rapper (I normally hate rap...) |
| 16:23.53 | ScaredyCat | not til I get my walking stick and zimmer frame |
| 16:24.08 | ScaredyCat | url ? |
| 16:24.41 | ScaredyCat | nm |
| 16:25.05 | ScaredyCat | my old hands can obviously type faster than your brain works :P |
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| 16:27.07 | abraxa_ | Only if it's performed on Steve Jobs or Steve Ballmer. |
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| 16:27.28 | ScaredyCat | doesn't jobs travel in a bubble of evil ? |
| 16:27.45 | abraxa_ | Bubble of money maybe ;) |
| 16:28.11 | diego71 | may be it is quite the same :) |
| 16:28.18 | ScaredyCat | aye |
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| 16:31.02 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: I was away... I'm at work, so I really talk in here entirely more than I should anyway |
| 16:31.49 | ScaredyCat | yeah, yeah .... you just took an hour to type that, didn't you ? ;) |
| 16:32.41 | wurp2 | nah, I keep it in a buffer to cut-n-paste, along with this ;-) |
| 16:33.11 | wurp2 | Last year I spent a few weeks typing all the responses I would ever give |
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| 16:40.03 | RedDog | I had written a script to force a crash on resume, but for now it resumed the 52th time. |
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| 16:41.12 | summatusmentis | is there gonna be java on openmoko? |
| 16:41.18 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: yes |
| 16:41.27 | ScaredyCat | pyjava |
| 16:41.27 | wurp2 | I think there already is, if you look hard enough |
| 16:41.54 | summatusmentis | well, I don't have a device, so... last time I tried qemu, it was wicked slow |
| 16:41.58 | ScaredyCat | RedDog: with no squiffy screen ? |
| 16:42.18 | diego71 | nah... we already have jython :) |
| 16:42.46 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: only in the wakeup phase, after it i can see a normal screen :D |
| 16:42.49 | summatusmentis | we used jython in our intro csci class |
| 16:42.53 | summatusmentis | very slow |
| 16:43.02 | ScaredyCat | good stuff RedDog |
| 16:43.06 | RedDog | but power-btn works only one time ... |
| 16:43.18 | RedDog | then only the AUX-btn works ... |
| 16:43.19 | ScaredyCat | diego71: does it use up all your resources in < 1s? |
| 16:43.37 | ScaredyCat | ahh.. I've only tired the aux button |
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| 16:44.02 | diego71 | yes, but it's not easy as in C |
| 16:44.05 | wurp2 | Anyone looked into a single python runtime that can run multiple apps in their own space? |
| 16:44.19 | ScaredyCat | or as efficeintly diego71 ;) |
| 16:44.28 | ScaredyCat | efficiently |
| 16:44.36 | ScaredyCat | ~spell: efficiently |
| 16:44.48 | diego71 | yes, is very important a good crash is quick and fast =P |
| 16:44.59 | wurp2 | 'cause a python app that just sits there waiting takes 4mb memory, 2mb resident |
| 16:45.01 | ScaredyCat | yes, don;t want to waste time |
| 16:46.10 | RedDog | huh, what's this: s3c24xx-pm: Restore CRC error at 30380000 (bd3d3b6d vs eec8f2f7) |
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| 16:49.02 | ScaredyCat | aliens! |
| 16:49.35 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Java |
| 16:49.46 | summatusmentis | wurp2: thanks |
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| 16:55.28 | wurp2 | summatusmentis: yw |
| 16:59.07 | ScaredyCat | lol |
| 16:59.20 | ScaredyCat | "There are two main types of Java platforms tha..." |
| 16:59.32 | ScaredyCat | at which point there are 3 listed |
| 17:00.14 | abraxa_ | lol] |
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| 17:13.17 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: it's a wiki; fix it! |
| 17:13.20 | RedDog | how does neod injekt suspend mode? |
| 17:14.07 | wurp2 | RedDog: You mean, what's the ui to turn on suspend mode? |
| 17:14.17 | wurp2 | RedDog: or technical details? |
| 17:14.51 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: (btw, that was (mostly) tongue-in-cheek) |
| 17:16.33 | ScaredyCat | made the change... |
| 17:16.50 | ScaredyCat | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges |
| 17:17.19 | RedDog | wurp2: looked at it, and neod prints mem\n to /sys/power/state |
| 17:18.02 | RedDog | if i use "echo mem > /sys/power/state" suspend and resume works. but if i use neod it doesn't. |
| 17:18.02 | ScaredyCat | flash swap that's what we need ;) |
| 17:18.25 | wurp2 | RedDog: weird |
| 17:19.15 | wurp2 | RedDog: I know that neod has switched between working & non-working for suspend recently. Are you sure the neod version you're looking at is the one that's running? |
| 17:19.51 | wurp2 | and does it flush promptly/ |
| 17:20.03 | RedDog | will look at it, but the last two times it worked also with neod, maybe just a confusion |
| 17:21.26 | wurp2 | If it doesn't flush, that could explain it working intermittently |
| 17:21.46 | RedDog | what you mean with flush? |
| 17:21.50 | wurp2 | depending on whether the library decides to implicitly flush or not |
| 17:22.01 | wurp2 | when you write to a file, normally the data goes into a buffer |
| 17:22.10 | RedDog | ah, this flush ... |
| 17:22.34 | wurp2 | periodically, the data will get written to the file. That should happen always when you close the file, and when you explicitly call flush |
| 17:23.24 | RedDog | ah and btw, if i looked correctly neod on my phone is outdated :-( |
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| 17:30.10 | RedDog | but what the hell is this memory crc error? could it be that the memory is defective? |
| 17:40.27 | wurp2 | For my script to import contacts from SIM to the address book (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Sim_Contacts), right now I just make wild-ass guesses about the type of the contact |
| 17:41.05 | wurp2 | It would be pretty easy to make it a two step process, creating a text file from the SIM contacts that ppl could edit, then they would import the file using another call to addContact |
| 17:41.43 | wurp2 | Does anyone give a crap about this? You can also change the contact type in openmoko-contacts itself just by clicking a drop down |
| 17:42.44 | kdean06 | wurp2, Personally, I don't care. I think that OM-contacts-2 has crappy categories anyway. |
| 17:44.03 | wurp2 | I agree. I was surprised to see that there was no phone type for cell phones! |
| 17:45.02 | wurp2 | emdete: I finally saw the vid for pyneo. Very hot stuff! Amazing response times! |
| 17:45.23 | wurp2 | emdete: Is the whole suite running as one python app? |
| 17:51.30 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4140 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/libopkg/ (pkg.c pkg.h pkg_parse.c): opkg: add support for Tags attribute |
| 17:56.40 | ScaredyCat | it's a core with little helper apps wurp2 |
| 17:57.05 | ScaredyCat | and yeah, I'd use your import app esp if it did the interim txt file thing |
| 17:57.21 | ScaredyCat | cos than I could put that on my sdcard too |
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| 17:59.45 | ScaredyCat | wurp2: but i really don;t like that idea where if you update/delete the *phone* entry it does the same to the sim! |
| 17:59.49 | ScaredyCat | that's so wrong! |
| 18:01.10 | PP|Spydon | I agree |
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| 18:07.19 | cjb_ie | SpeedEvil or any other OSM folks - any idea why oftc is kicking people (incl me) saying "fix your irc client" ? no sign of a url or anything in the kick message |
| 18:09.25 | cjb_ie | and nothing on www.oftc.net about it either |
| 18:09.31 | cjb_ie | unless i'm blind? |
| 18:09.33 | SpeedEvil | Some idiot. |
| 18:09.54 | SpeedEvil | Screwed up a mask, or induced a bug that caused it to be easy enough to pick masks. |
| 18:09.56 | SpeedEvil | Fixed now. |
| 18:10.55 | cjb_ie | grand so |
| 18:11.15 | cjb_ie | cheers :) |
| 18:12.28 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: Oh, I don't do any of that |
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| 18:13.01 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: Mine is solely a one-way import, taking entries from the SIM contact list & putting them in openmoko-contacts2 |
| 18:13.27 | ScaredyCat | copying .. ? |
| 18:13.27 | wurp2 | That comment about update/delete making changes to the SIM was totally Chiu or whatever his name was |
| 18:13.36 | ScaredyCat | yes... |
| 18:13.38 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: Yes, just copying |
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| 18:13.56 | wurp2 | The only changes my app makes is to add contacts to OM-contacts2 |
| 18:15.29 | wurp2 | OK, well the app is out there, but right now it doesn't create the intermidiary file - it just puts 'em in contacts2 |
| 18:15.34 | SpeedEvil | Why, was it infirm before? |
| 18:16.04 | wurp2 | It also provides an api to add contact info simply from the command line, if ppl need that functionality and don't want to go on the foray through dbus that I did |
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| 18:17.00 | PBeck | hi |
| 18:17.19 | wurp2 | OK, stupid question |
| 18:17.19 | ScaredyCat | I bet its in python :P |
| 18:17.37 | wurp2 | Why does the front page show a picture of a FreeRunner, with 1973 typed out on the UI? |
| 18:17.42 | wurp2 | ScaredyCat: Of course! |
| 18:19.34 | SpeedEvil | wurp2: I think it's merely a bad render. |
| 18:20.01 | wurp2 | SpeedEvil: of a 1973? |
| 18:20.11 | wurp2 | Oh, sorry |
| 18:20.12 | SpeedEvil | of the case schematics |
| 18:20.17 | wurp2 | You mean, it's not a pic at alal |
| 18:20.26 | wurp2 | and someone just put a silly screenshot on it |
| 18:20.29 | SpeedEvil | It looks very, very un-pic-like to me. |
| 18:20.37 | wurp2 | But the question still stands, if it's the FreeRunner, why does it say 1973 |
| 18:20.56 | SpeedEvil | Because that's what the uploader chose to put on it. |
| 18:21.04 | SpeedEvil | The wiki isn't exactly moderated. |
| 18:21.29 | ScaredyCat | wasn't it uploaded by fic? |
| 18:21.30 | wurp2 | sure, I'm just saying it was a poor choice on someone's part :-) |
| 18:21.39 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: no |
| 18:21.43 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: just some cat. |
| 18:22.12 | ScaredyCat | 08:23, 27 February 2008 . . Coolcat |
| 18:22.22 | wurp2 | Well, what's Brenda's wiki username? |
| 18:22.22 | ScaredyCat | not *this* cat I hasten to add |
| 18:22.41 | roh | hm? what exactly is the problem? |
| 18:22.44 | ScaredyCat | brenda |
| 18:22.53 | wurp2 | heh |
| 18:22.55 | ScaredyCat | ruh roh! |
| 18:23.14 | wurp2 | roh: No problem, just commenting about the FreeRunner image on the wiki front page that says 1973 on the display |
| 18:23.35 | SpeedEvil | As we understand it, there is no visible difference. |
| 18:23.44 | SpeedEvil | other than the buttons on one being translucent. |
| 18:23.47 | roh | hehe... just somebody dialed that number for the photo *g |
| 18:23.52 | ScaredyCat | actually wurp2 brenda might be coolcat |
| 18:23.55 | SpeedEvil | Or is it a real pic? |
| 18:24.07 | roh | coolcat is brenda, ack |
| 18:24.13 | ScaredyCat | k... |
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| 18:24.28 | roh | the pic is either real or displays it quite as ive seen the cases recently |
| 18:24.43 | SpeedEvil | roh: Ah. |
| 18:24.45 | ScaredyCat | it seems a little squashed roh |
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| 18:25.29 | ScaredyCat | wasn't the 02 supposed to have more hard buttons? |
| 18:25.29 | roh | yep.. obviously scaled down from some hires original |
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| 18:25.53 | ScaredyCat | or was that just what I wanted, so i imagined it |
| 18:25.53 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: nope |
| 18:26.03 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: that was never claimed anywhere. |
| 18:26.09 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: just LEDs behind them |
| 18:26.29 | ScaredyCat | mmm... must be just in my brain then |
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| 18:26.33 | roh | gta2 has basically the same case. a bit different plastic, lighted buttons and a different interiour (spacers modified for wifi e.g.) |
| 18:26.55 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: that's only if you've got the bluetooth neural adaptor. |
| 18:27.10 | wurp2 | roh: Is there a hi res pic of the gta02 available somewhere? |
| 18:27.23 | wurp2 | If you can let the teaser pic out, can't we get a good one? ;-) |
| 18:27.53 | roh | dunno |
| 18:29.08 | ScaredyCat | so has anyone designed a backpack yet ... |
| 18:29.35 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 18:29.41 | SpeedEvil | At the moment I'm doing UAVs. |
| 18:29.47 | ScaredyCat | :( |
| 18:29.58 | SpeedEvil | However, it could make a flying neo. |
| 18:30.06 | ScaredyCat | damn it I want my steampunk neo! |
| 18:31.58 | wurp2 | SpeedEvil: Can it follow me around as I go about my daily life, and have at least a week of battery life? |
| 18:32.01 | wurp2 | ;-) |
| 18:34.26 | ScaredyCat | going wireless brb |
| 18:36.28 | ScaredyCat | back |
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| 18:59.45 | RedDog | mysterios: 3 times boot->pin->powerBtn->suspend->powerBtn->crash and then boot->pin->"echo mem > /sys/power/state"->AUXBtn->Works |
| 18:59.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r4141 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:59.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: opkg: |
| 18:59.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * remove generated files |
| 18:59.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * add autogen.sh |
| 18:59.53 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * move ChangeLog to ChangeLog.ipkg and start new ChangeLog for our changes |
| 18:59.54 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * remove familiar directory |
| 19:00.01 | RedDog | I think the PowerBtn brakes suspend... |
| 19:00.51 | RedDog | then it would make sense, that the powerBtn sometimes doesn't work after suspend! |
| 19:05.36 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r4142 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/ (ChangeLog Makefile.am configure.ac src/opkg-frontend.c): opkg: catch up with removals and fix include statement in opkg-frontend.c |
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| 19:29.34 | wurp2 | RedDog: Have you tried the other combo, where you suspend manually using echo, and wake using power? |
| 19:35.53 | RedDog | wurp2: moment ... |
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| 19:36.12 | RedDog | now in suspend .. |
| 19:36.33 | RedDog | power-btn ... and now is wake ... |
| 19:37.05 | wurp2 | :-( |
| 19:37.23 | RedDog | now i will get into power menu... power-btn press and nothing .. |
| 19:37.26 | wurp2 | So it's the way neod is suspending, somehow, not a categorical problem with power wake |
| 19:37.38 | RedDog | little longer press on power-btn and now it is off! |
| 19:38.05 | RedDog | but no menu ... |
| 19:39.11 | RedDog | now i will try manually suspending and then using aux to wake ... |
| 19:39.23 | RedDog | i will bet, that power-btn than works as usual ... |
| 19:42.38 | RedDog | yes... echoSuspend->Aux->powerMenu works |
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| 19:46.52 | RedDog | aux wakes with irq, power also? |
| 19:48.58 | mickeyl | both are wake up sources in recent hardware |
| 19:49.08 | mickeyl | however, we want to restrict that to only the power button |
| 19:49.29 | mickeyl | it's actually a historic workaround since the power button was not a wake up source until gta01bv4 |
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| 19:50.45 | RedDog | mickeyl there are differents for both buttons: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_GTA01_Power_Management#Power_Button |
| 19:52.46 | mickeyl | yes, i know. just forget about AUX though. the canonical way to resume is power-on |
| 19:52.51 | mickeyl | AUX supported may vanish |
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| 19:55.35 | emre_ | hey folks. |
| 19:55.36 | ScaredyCat | on the gta02.. right? |
| 19:55.40 | ScaredyCat | not the 01? |
| 19:56.07 | ScaredyCat | didn;t werner try that (removing AUX on 01) and it basically broke resume completely |
| 19:56.32 | emre_ | is there a way to connect to the device and see bootup messages? |
| 19:56.36 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: no, that was only becuase of 01rev3 |
| 19:57.05 | mickeyl | emre_: either ipkg remove psplash, or connect via serial (debug board) |
| 19:57.44 | emre_ | mickeyl: don't have a debug board, so how does removing psplash work? |
| 19:58.01 | mickeyl | emre_: login in via ssh; ipkg remove psplash |
| 19:58.08 | ScaredyCat | it's be nice if you could dump it all to a file |
| 19:58.15 | ScaredyCat | it'd |
| 19:58.24 | emre_ | mickeyl: and? |
| 19:58.27 | ScaredyCat | for those without a debug board |
| 19:58.29 | mickeyl | reboot? |
| 19:58.35 | mickeyl | and watch the LCD |
| 19:58.49 | ScaredyCat | and read quickly |
| 19:58.53 | mickeyl | i don't think you can get serial output via usbtty |
| 19:58.55 | emre_ | mickeyl: but it's too fast, i can't read it.. i mean is there another way? |
| 19:58.58 | mickeyl | ah |
| 19:59.10 | mickeyl | well, apart from 'dmesg' i don't know anything offhand |
| 19:59.37 | mickeyl | dmesg will give you the part until init kicks in |
| 19:59.47 | mickeyl | you could hack sysinit to write debug output into syslog |
| 19:59.53 | mickeyl | s/debug// |
| 19:59.54 | emre_ | the problem with dmesg is, i am trying to find out the error messages when booting from the sd card. |
| 20:00.04 | RedDog | what is the hold button? |
| 20:00.14 | mickeyl | RedDog: on headset |
| 20:00.15 | ScaredyCat | hehehe |
| 20:00.23 | roh | the button on the wired headset cable |
| 20:00.26 | RedDog | ah ;) |
| 20:01.04 | RedDog | i don't find where the power button through the pmu is defined as wakeup source |
| 20:01.27 | emre_ | so, the kernel messages should be in /var/log right? |
| 20:01.50 | mickeyl | you probably want to change syslog configuration then |
| 20:01.56 | mickeyl | default is a circular buffer |
| 20:02.00 | ScaredyCat | RedDog: that's what I mean.... the aux seems to be the one taht works, not the power |
| 20:02.18 | emre_ | mickeyl: do you know how can i do that? |
| 20:02.31 | mickeyl | edit some file in /etc |
| 20:02.31 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: you mean on gta01-04 power-button is broken by hardware? |
| 20:02.34 | mickeyl | dunno offhand |
| 20:02.40 | mickeyl | check busybox manpage |
| 20:02.49 | emre_ | ok. let me see. |
| 20:02.55 | ScaredyCat | no, it works, just not as a resume source |
| 20:03.00 | ScaredyCat | for me at least |
| 20:03.07 | mickeyl | emre_: look for syslog-ng.conf |
| 20:03.20 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: for me it works, but after wakeup system is not stable ... |
| 20:03.23 | ScaredyCat | maybe I'm pressing it wrong... |
| 20:03.36 | ScaredyCat | but I have never got a resume from power |
| 20:04.04 | RedDog | i think there is a mess up with power menu and wakeup or so |
| 20:04.12 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: here it works |
| 20:04.18 | RedDog | but not good ... |
| 20:04.31 | ScaredyCat | you must have magic pixies in your phone then |
| 20:04.39 | RedDog | wow ^^ |
| 20:05.00 | ScaredyCat | don't let them get away |
| 20:05.20 | RedDog | are there more people wich tested this? |
| 20:06.35 | RedDog | no, i put some chocolate in the phone, the will stay there :D |
| 20:06.52 | ScaredyCat | heehhe |
| 20:07.16 | ScaredyCat | dunno - poke wurp2, abraxa_ and CM |
| 20:07.52 | abraxa_ | Hmm? |
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| 20:10.25 | RedDog | abraxa_: can you test, if the powerbutton works as resume source, for you? |
| 20:10.59 | abraxa_ | Lemme try |
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| 20:14.49 | abraxa_ | I can't suspend to begin with. All I get is a blinking cursor for ~30 secs and then X comes back up |
| 20:17.44 | ScaredyCat | somone broke curl |
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| 20:27.11 | RedDog | ? |
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| 20:35.00 | wurp2 | RedDog: I'll test too and let you know |
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| 20:35.44 | RedDog | thanks... |
| 20:36.36 | ScaredyCat | ... naa it was me... must have too much pr0n ... disk full |
| 20:37.18 | wurp2 | pr0n is too hard to see on the neo |
| 20:37.32 | wurp2 | now I know why they say that makes you blind |
| 20:37.37 | RedDog | i think he means the broken curl ... |
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| 20:38.10 | wurp2 | Oh, I wasn't paying attention to what he really meant, I just saw an opp to make a bad joke |
| 20:38.51 | wurp2 | How long should the neo have to sit idle when I'm in "dim, then lock" mode before it suspends? |
| 20:40.24 | RedDog | don't know but it could be a nice test ... |
| 20:42.31 | wurp2 | Except that since the screen goes black before it suspends, I keep waking it before it's done |
| 20:42.43 | wurp2 | waking it when I check to see if it's suspended |
| 20:43.00 | RedDog | could it be that this lock mode is only the display-lock? |
| 20:43.07 | wurp2 | I don't think so |
| 20:43.21 | wurp2 | Because "Dim, but don't lock" locks the display as well |
| 20:43.43 | wurp2 | I think I've seen ppl in here say that their neo eventually suspended when in "Dim, then lock" mode |
| 20:44.47 | RedDog | ok, then i will test! :D |
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| 20:45.28 | ScaredyCat | use the lock phone option... then t does it instantly |
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| 20:45.51 | wurp2 | I will try that if it hasn't locked after 10 min |
| 20:46.04 | wurp2 | s/locked/suspended/ |
| 20:46.06 | ScaredyCat | U fix-i2c-s3c2410-resume-race.patch |
| 20:46.08 | ScaredyCat | yay |
| 20:46.28 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: ? |
| 20:46.51 | ScaredyCat | it finally got updated in trunk |
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| 20:48.42 | RedDog | wurp2: ok you are right mine is in suspend now :D |
| 20:51.06 | wurp2 | RedDog: Looks as if mine is too |
| 20:51.21 | wurp2 | woke from power just fine |
| 20:53.04 | ScaredyCat | hhhhmmmmmmmmmm |
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| 20:53.58 | wurp2 | gsm was dead when it woke back up |
| 20:54.06 | wurp2 | but it often is for me on this release :-( |
| 20:54.16 | RedDog | yes, gsm is dead... |
| 20:54.41 | RedDog | ScaredyCat, wurp2: wich uboot version do you have? |
| 20:54.50 | wurp2 | Dunno :-/ |
| 20:54.54 | wurp2 | The one that came on the phone |
| 20:55.01 | wurp2 | Dunno how to check |
| 20:55.44 | ScaredyCat | mine is pretty recent |
| 20:56.03 | RedDog | wurp2: phone off -> aux + power button |
| 20:56.32 | RedDog | mine is "U-Boot 1.2.0-moko9_r0 (Aug 19 2007 - 19:17:12)" |
| 20:57.07 | wurp2 | oh, yeah |
| 20:57.23 | wurp2 | Sorry, never paid attention to what the boot menu says other than options to choose from :-) |
| 20:58.04 | RedDog | and wich one is on your phone? |
| 20:58.37 | ScaredyCat | 1.3.1 ( Jan 23 2008) |
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| 20:58.51 | ScaredyCat | svn rev 3817 |
| 20:59.44 | RedDog | could it be possible that u-boot brakes power-button? |
| 21:00.57 | wurp2 | uboot 1.2.0 |
| 21:01.17 | ScaredyCat | lol ...now it's made me a liar |
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| 21:01.43 | ScaredyCat | but once I use the power I can't get to the menu again |
| 21:01.58 | wurp2 | so you can't shut down? |
| 21:02.35 | ScaredyCat | I can if I hold it in for 8 seconds |
| 21:02.38 | ScaredyCat | ish |
| 21:02.49 | ScaredyCat | emergency power off iirc |
| 21:03.53 | wurp2 | Hmm, that has never worked for me |
| 21:03.59 | wurp2 | I don't think I've tried for a bit |
| 21:04.09 | wurp2 | of course you can always "shutdown now" |
| 21:04.15 | ScaredyCat | it's been fixed in recent builds iirc |
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| 21:04.45 | wurp2 | ah, cool! |
| 21:04.57 | wurp2 | Although that's info it would be good to see an announcement on |
| 21:05.09 | ScaredyCat | there was |
| 21:05.20 | wurp2 | Since I had gotten comfortable holding that button down until the neo would wake up & give me the menu |
| 21:05.28 | ScaredyCat | at least in dev lists |
| 21:05.29 | wurp2 | ah, maybe I skimmed over that memo |
| 21:05.34 | wurp2 | I'm not on the kernel list |
| 21:05.53 | wurp2 | or maybe the app devel list, either... but that sounds like something that should be on device-owners |
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| 21:06.07 | ScaredyCat | migh have been , just lookin |
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| 21:15.41 | wurp2 | OK, my neo just suspended on its own (I forgot to turn it back to dim, don't lock) |
| 21:15.48 | wurp2 | And I used aux to wake it, and it's busted |
| 21:15.59 | ScaredyCat | all flickery? |
| 21:16.09 | wurp2 | all dead |
| 21:16.15 | ScaredyCat | oh... |
| 21:16.19 | wurp2 | it clicked, and the screen flashed once |
| 21:16.35 | ScaredyCat | mine comes back to life ok wiht aux ... but it's very flickery |
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| 21:16.48 | wurp2 | I pulled the battery for 5 secs |
| 21:16.52 | ScaredyCat | like 2 screens are fighting to display |
| 21:16.54 | wurp2 | Now power button will make it come on |
| 21:18.36 | RedDog | ScaredyCat: did you try the new fix-i2c-s3c2410-resume-race.patch |
| 21:18.54 | ScaredyCat | I'm rebuilding now |
| 21:19.10 | ScaredyCat | that's what happened when I ran out of disk space |
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| 21:21.57 | RedDog | wurp2: can you try to go on suspend with "echo mem > /sys/power/state" after booting and then resume with AUX? |
| 21:22.35 | wurp2 | I guess so |
| 21:22.40 | wurp2 | You're interrupting my music, man |
| 21:22.41 | wurp2 | ;-) |
| 21:23.51 | ScaredyCat | opkg is broken :( |
| 21:23.57 | wurp2 | fails |
| 21:24.15 | wurp2 | Now my screen reads adc_read: entering blah blah at the top |
| 21:24.23 | wurp2 | the rest is all balck |
| 21:24.27 | wurp2 | s/balck/black |
| 21:25.12 | wurp2 | once again with the battery removal so it will reboot |
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| 21:42.18 | RedDog | wurp2: can you test a kernel with a custom .config? |
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| 21:43.09 | wurp2 | RedDog: Not now - I'm at work, and I don't even have a usbnet connection to my neo here |
| 21:43.36 | RedDog | ok |
| 21:43.37 | wurp2 | If you email me the info, I can do it... although I have never done it before, so I would need some pointers on how to |
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| 21:50.58 | RedDog | wurp2: mail is out, thanks! |
| 21:52.06 | wurp2 | RedDog: np |
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| 21:57.53 | wurp2 | RedDog: I don't see that email... |
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| 22:01.04 | RedDog | wurp2: huh? |
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| 22:11.14 | wurp2 | Oh, I can't help with your test :-( |
| 22:11.21 | wurp2 | I don't have a build environment |
| 22:11.40 | wurp2 | I have followed the instructions on mokomakefile a couple dozen times at least and it always fails :-( |
| 22:11.49 | RedDog | wurp2: hu? |
| 22:12.31 | wurp2 | Your email includes a link on how to build the kernel |
| 22:12.42 | wurp2 | Which I presume will require a valid Mokemake environemtn |
| 22:12.52 | wurp2 | s/nemtn/nment/ |
| 22:12.57 | wurp2 | which I don't have |
| 22:13.29 | RedDog | yes, i understood .. |
| 22:14.02 | wurp2 | Oh, I thought the 'hu?' meant you didn't :-) |
| 22:14.43 | RedDog | no sry ... was only that i couldn't beleave it ... :D |
| 22:14.47 | wurp2 | There is some tool, I don't remember which offhand, which won't take a flag that one of the build exes is sending it |
| 22:15.04 | wurp2 | and I couldn't find a way to get a version that would understand the flag without breaking a bunch of other stuff |
| 22:15.12 | RedDog | actually i run a kernel from mokomakefile and it crashes |
| 22:15.18 | wurp2 | nor a way to get MM to stop sending it |
| 22:16.14 | RedDog | now i don't understand ... |
| 22:16.21 | wurp2 | If you want to send me a built kernel, I can try it |
| 22:16.40 | wurp2 | One of the build tools, I think it's the gcc flavor Mokomake is using |
| 22:16.50 | wurp2 | calls the assembler |
| 22:17.01 | wurp2 | and sends a flag to the assembler that it doesn't understand |
| 22:17.25 | wurp2 | I've found docs on the web where other ppl had this problem, but none indicating how they solved it other than major system updates |
| 22:17.36 | wurp2 | which I'm unwilling to do since I'm running the latest Ubuntu |
| 22:17.59 | RedDog | did you asked rwhitby? |
| 22:18.02 | wurp2 | I will try at some point to get the build env going on my debian server, which I know is working for some people |
| 22:18.13 | wurp2 | I don't think he was on during the few times I hunted for him |
| 22:18.27 | RedDog | i ran debian myself ;) |
| 22:18.30 | wurp2 | He doesn't list contact info other than to look in this room, I don't think |
| 22:18.35 | wurp2 | Yeah, I do for servers |
| 22:18.53 | wurp2 | but in my old age and busy life, ubuntu is nicer for desktop for me now |
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| 22:37.11 | kdean06 | Flame on. :) |
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| 22:45.19 | RedDog | wurp2: i send you another mail with a link to the kernel... |
| 22:46.30 | RedDog | the interesting part is the log in dmesg: |
| 22:46.31 | RedDog | restore f5008028 (restore 00000000, was 00000000) |
| 22:46.31 | RedDog | s3c24xx-pm: Restore CRC error at 30380000 (8fd33029 vs 21b01ebf) |
| 22:46.31 | RedDog | restore f4000008 (restore 61c63fcd, was ffffffff) |
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| 22:56.22 | wurp2 | yeah, that sounds bad |
| 22:56.53 | wurp2 | odd that the 'was' values are either binary all 1s or binary all 0s |
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| 23:01.57 | wurp2 | RedDog: I got your email; I'll try it this weekend |
| 23:02.08 | wurp2 | I won't guarantee that it'll be tonight, though |
| 23:03.20 | RedDog | wurp2: thank you... for now i will go to bed, no need to do it now ... :D |
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