| 00:00.03 | cesarb | dennda: I'm beginning to wonder what will make the most difference: the cpufreq stuff or the disabling of parts of the chip, like the USB device core (which seems to be enabled all the time, even when you don't have a cable plugged, because there's no gpio to know when a cable is plugged... completely ignoring the "gpio" for it is in another chip) |
| 00:00.26 | Moniker42 | can't the device just draw power from the Ether? |
| 00:00.28 | cesarb | mwester: another option is for a OM kernel dev to test my changes on a working gta02 ;-) |
| 00:02.27 | Moniker42 | inwoo, i think i have a bug here... when i press "missed calls" on the home screen i get the big openmoko splash image and "please wait..." |
| 00:02.41 | cesarb | Moniker42: that image is the screen background image |
| 00:02.55 | cesarb | Moniker42: meaning whatever was running in front of it just disappeared ;-) |
| 00:02.59 | mickeyl | ya, that one has been reported since ages. i wonder why it's not getting fixed |
| 00:03.01 | Moniker42 | then the dialer app appears, and the taskbar at the top goes black, the text in the top-left disappears |
| 00:03.13 | Moniker42 | and now i can't return to the home screen.. |
| 00:03.18 | Moniker42 | ah, k. |
| 00:03.27 | cesarb | mickeyl: probably all the developers are playing with the glamo or the ar6k ;-) |
| 00:03.50 | Moniker42 | too busy trying to get transparency working/ |
| 00:03.54 | Moniker42 | *ing? |
| 00:04.51 | mickeyl | cesarb: heh, looks like it |
| 00:05.08 | Moniker42 | ditto |
| 00:05.09 | mwester | cesarb: that's not the same... |
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| 00:05.32 | cesarb | mwester: ? |
| 00:05.48 | mwester | Having someone else test your code |
| 00:06.18 | mwester | It's hard enough running gdb remotely, it's an order of magnitude harder to run gdb over an IRC session through another human. Lossy connection, often. |
| 00:06.35 | mwester | :) methinks you need a gta02 |
| 00:06.43 | cesarb | mwester: I don't use gdb ;-) |
| 00:06.48 | cesarb | mwester: I use printk :D |
| 00:07.01 | Moniker42 | is there any chance of getting email and/or SMS working on the gta01? |
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| 00:07.35 | mwester | Moniker42: As soon as someone spends a bit of time on the apps, I think they'll be working. But I've not seen any recent updates for the apps. |
| 00:07.41 | mmontour | SMS works, at least at a basic level |
| 00:07.48 | Moniker42 | but only from the terminal? |
| 00:08.21 | mmontour | No, the messages GUI app works for me (bleeding-edge MokoMakefile build) |
| 00:08.23 | mwester | That's my experience - the app crashes when I try to read my SMS |
| 00:08.44 | mwester | It's been like that for a coon's age |
| 00:09.07 | thomasg | mwester, I also had the crash-issue, but it's gone for a week now. |
| 00:09.53 | mwester | ;) I may have to break down and reflash then. I found an image from a couple weeks ago that works rather well for calls, and I've been reluctant to give up a phone that is so close to working! |
| 00:10.03 | Moniker42 | hmm |
| 00:10.11 | Moniker42 | well the "messages" icon on the home screen does feck all for me |
| 00:10.16 | Moniker42 | i press it and nothing happens =( |
| 00:12.37 | mmontour | Moniker42: how recent is your software? |
| 00:13.38 | Moniker42 | mmontour, i ran ipkg update && upgrade just a few hours ago... or do i need to do something more extensive than that? |
| 00:14.48 | mmontour | The question is then "how recent is your update source"? I'm using MokoMakefile to build my own images, so I don't konw how recent the various package repositories are. |
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| 00:27.03 | wurp2|away | mwester: SMS works, but now you have multitap-pad instead of matchbox-keyboard |
| 00:27.15 | wurp2|away | so take that into consideration when thinking about reflashing... |
| 00:27.29 | wurp2|away | I think the 1/27 version doesn't use multitap, and also has SMS gui |
| 00:27.35 | wurp2|away | away again :-) |
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| 01:02.12 | cesarb | I haven't even seen the multitap input yet, but from what I heard it needs a small icon in the corner to switch to the normal stylus keyboard |
| 01:02.25 | cesarb | With scrolling effects and a swoosh sound ;-) |
| 01:06.40 | Vegar | meh |
| 01:06.43 | Vegar | I want a neo |
| 01:09.37 | ljp | me too |
| 01:12.33 | mickeyl | I want a FreeRunner |
| 01:14.00 | mwester | I want a bug fixed. |
| 01:14.05 | mwester | :p |
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| 01:22.01 | ljp | me too! me too! |
| 01:26.17 | cesarb | mwester: UTSL ;-) |
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| 07:59.32 | XorA | ScaredyCat: didnt realise you were in competition with us with buildhost.automated.it :-D |
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| 08:46.07 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03werner * r4026 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (3 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 08:46.07 | CIA-16 | openmoko: Brought back use of SHORTSWAP32, since we need it for the GTA02 u-boot console. |
| 08:46.08 | CIA-16 | openmoko: This undoes the HWSWP change in revision 3774. |
| 08:46.08 | CIA-16 | openmoko: GTA01 splash screen images have to be generated without -swap, like before |
| 08:46.08 | CIA-16 | openmoko: revision 3774. |
| 08:46.08 | CIA-16 | openmoko: uboot-20061030-neo1973.patch: |
| 08:46.12 | CIA-16 | openmoko: - include/configs/neo1973_gta01.h: set VIDEO_FB_16BPP_PIXEL_SWAP |
| 08:50.52 | mickeyl | go werner! |
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| 09:28.14 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03laforge * r4027 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/ (5 files): four more patches have been merged mainline (great!) |
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| 09:29.35 | mickeyl | woot |
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| 09:39.55 | TRIsoft | morning |
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| 09:42.54 | SpeedEvil | What does 'Warning: couldn't open ppp database /var/run/pppd2.tdb |
| 09:42.56 | SpeedEvil | ' mean? |
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| 09:49.35 | CIA-16 | freesmartphone.org: 03emdete * r74 10/trunk/software/gsm0710muxd/src/gsm0710muxd.c: |
| 09:49.36 | CIA-16 | freesmartphone.org: made timout optional (set by commandline option) |
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| 09:56.56 | pabs3 | I'd really love to get a FreeRunner, but I'm in Australia, so the comments about 3G on http://lwn.net/Articles/268247/ apply |
| 09:57.16 | pabs3 | has there been any talk of supporting 3G stuff? |
| 09:57.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4028 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/opkg_state.c: opkg: correct the name of the state changed callback and run it when appropriate |
| 09:58.13 | mickeyl | no |
| 09:58.26 | mickeyl | we'll surely have 3g in the successor to the FreeRunner |
| 09:58.34 | mickeyl | but that's pie in the sky for now |
| 09:59.21 | rwhitby | heh - 2G aint going away any time soon in Australia. |
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| 10:07.07 | SpeedEvil | mickeyl: the, or a successor? |
| 10:07.39 | mickeyl | a |
| 10:07.44 | mickeyl | well |
| 10:07.46 | SpeedEvil | yeah |
| 10:07.47 | mickeyl | i think every |
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| 10:08.05 | SpeedEvil | Everyone wants 3G for their area |
| 10:08.06 | mickeyl | I don't think we will sell a 2g phone in 2009 |
| 10:08.12 | mickeyl | s/will/can/ |
| 10:09.30 | SpeedEvil | I don't know. If it's cheap and featurefull, maybe. |
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| 10:09.40 | SpeedEvil | At the current price point - no way. |
| 10:10.01 | mickeyl | ya |
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| 10:10.39 | SpeedEvil | I assume that that basically means 3 or four seperate designds for the world - 3G |
| 10:11.47 | SpeedEvil | Or are there multistandard chipsets that's duit. |
| 10:11.47 | SpeedEvil | Oh damn, lost internet again. |
| 10:11.47 | SpeedEvil | I'm having phone issues |
| 10:12.03 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.08 | XorA | SpeedEvil: at least you cant blame them on us :-) |
| 10:12.13 | mickeyl | :D |
| 10:13.03 | SpeedEvil | Oh dear. |
| 10:13.03 | SpeedEvil | I really hope I can't. |
| 10:13.07 | SpeedEvil | But I've just realised that my neo is within 20cm of my DSL modem |
| 10:13.29 | SpeedEvil | I really really hope that's not why it's dropping out. |
| 10:13.46 | SpeedEvil | As I've called out an engineer, and that'll be chargable. Doh. |
| 10:15.08 | SpeedEvil | I don't think it is - horribly heavy winds before the problem started. |
| 10:17.14 | SpeedEvil | Ok - DSL SNR spiking fdown to negatives with phone off. :) |
| 10:18.37 | mickeyl | good |
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| 10:28.37 | pabs3 | so, uh, channel seems quiet, hope an semi-off-topic question is OK: anyone know if 3G phones can send video over IP, or is it only over PSTN? |
| 10:35.50 | zash | if you connect to the internet you can probably stream stuff over it |
| 10:36.12 | zash | if you can get software onto the phone that does that |
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| 10:55.43 | zedstar | latency is still gonna be pretty high on 3G and the uplink aint that great....anyone tried video over IP on a 3G connection? |
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| 11:08.11 | florian | good morning |
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| 11:49.46 | dennda | http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/2008/02/03/interview-with-michael-shiloh-of-openmoko/ |
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| 12:54.35 | pabs3 | has there been or might there be any hardware tech crossover between OLPC/OpenMoko? I'm thinking mainly about the wireless, the readable-in-daylight screen and I thought the battery was fancy in some way |
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| 12:57.24 | buz | there hasnt been |
| 13:00.21 | pabs3 | bit of a shame, they have some nice stuff that would be useful for mobiles |
| 13:01.12 | buz | i dont think that dual mode screen is currently available commercially |
| 13:01.22 | buz | much less in a phone form factor |
| 13:01.33 | buz | as for the wifi, there was some reason i forgot why it couldnt be used |
| 13:04.16 | pabs3 | perhaps in FreeRunner+1 |
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| 13:16.56 | raynet | OOPC would be great |
| 13:21.11 | spydon | lol |
| 13:21.19 | spydon | one openmoko per child? :P |
| 13:21.23 | raynet | yup |
| 13:21.26 | spydon | ^^ |
| 13:22.30 | sbeh | *g |
| 13:22.58 | raynet | and i hope i still qualify as a child |
| 13:27.08 | buz | around here children already have phones... |
| 13:27.30 | buz | i'm sometimes in disbelief when i see 7 yer olds carrying mobiles... |
| 13:28.16 | sbeh | sharing spongebob-warez |
| 13:28.25 | raynet | but not as much seeing 9 yer olds smoking |
| 13:31.38 | Sup3rkiddo | mobiles are banned in my university :/ |
| 13:31.54 | raynet | Sup3rkiddo: wow? |
| 13:31.58 | raynet | really? |
| 13:32.03 | raynet | why |
| 13:32.28 | cjb_ie | banned on whole campus? or just in lectures |
| 13:32.30 | Sup3rkiddo | raynet, yeah..AU, chennai....stupid indian politics |
| 13:32.50 | Sup3rkiddo | whole campus.. |
| 13:32.53 | raynet | silly |
| 13:33.23 | Sup3rkiddo | ..that didnt stop me from carrying neo one day :), to show off |
| 13:33.49 | buz | my uni has no reception with two carriers in many places butphones arent banned |
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| 13:34.24 | buz | i dont think anyone would care if they were |
| 13:34.36 | Sup3rkiddo | mobiles in hostels are tolerated.. |
| 13:35.33 | Sup3rkiddo | http://www.thehindu.com/2006/02/19/stories/2006021904050300.htm if you are curious |
| 13:36.20 | raynet | aah |
| 13:36.22 | raynet | ok |
| 13:36.35 | raynet | it makes sense.. kind of, in a bizarre way |
| 13:37.02 | Sup3rkiddo | ....yeah...note "bizarre"... |
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| 14:21.04 | pabs3 | http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2008/02/08/touchscreen-on-both-sides |
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| 14:38.28 | Kero | Sup3rkiddo: scary article... |
| 14:39.19 | Sup3rkiddo | very.. |
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| 14:40.23 | Kero | that very last sentence... as if you're not civilized without a university degree... |
| 14:40.47 | Sup3rkiddo | Kero, the VC is a moron |
| 14:40.58 | Sup3rkiddo | ...and i hope this channel aint publicly logged |
| 14:41.09 | Kero | hehe |
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| 14:42.06 | Kero | even if, echelon will know, but not the VC |
| 14:43.34 | dcordes | what's the VC? |
| 14:49.16 | dcordes | ah yes the last sentence is awesome |
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| 15:11.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1222 has been created by marcus.bauer(AT)gmail.com |
| 15:11.02 | cdbot2 | * * openmoko-today's launcher is often unresponsive |
| 15:11.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1222 |
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| 15:13.33 | SpeedEvil | pabs3: I believe the battery is simply an NiMH pack |
| 15:13.40 | SpeedEvil | pabs3: very, very old tech. |
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| 15:23.12 | haakeyar | If you have some comments on the way a bug in bugzilla is solved and a patch for a different way to solve it, should it be marked as reopened or stay fixed? |
| 15:25.13 | anrp | reopening is probably not the right way to do it |
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| 15:25.27 | anrp | maybe create a low priority bug and attach the new way, and post a comment in the solved bug |
| 15:25.42 | anrp | reopening implies not fixed |
| 15:26.28 | anrp | could also attach to the existing bug but it might get missed |
| 15:28.29 | haakeyar | Yep, that is what I have done, but as you say, it might get missed. But maybe I could wait a couple of days and see what happens. |
| 15:29.38 | haakeyar | Or tell mickeyl directly when he is online, he did the original fix. |
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| 15:31.28 | haakeyar | But thanks. Then I did the right thing by not marking it as reopened. :) |
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| 15:41.06 | Vegar | haakeyar: you could sent an email to the appropriate list to make sure it gets noticed |
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| 16:32.23 | nadio | Can the phone speak with the GSM chip, or do I need the advance model to do that? |
| 16:32.39 | mjr | what do you mean? |
| 16:33.08 | mjr | (you need the "advanced" set for very few things |
| 16:33.32 | nadio | hum what is the advanced set used for? |
| 16:33.40 | ScaredyCat | unbricking |
| 16:33.54 | ScaredyCat | u-boot development |
| 16:34.00 | ScaredyCat | but that's it really |
| 16:34.11 | kdean06 | nadio, If you're going to be doing development on the bootloader, or tinkering with the hardware. Other than that, it's not needed. |
| 16:34.14 | ScaredyCat | you do get an extra battery ;) |
| 16:34.22 | kdean06 | True! |
| 16:34.53 | ScaredyCat | do you get the 3 function pen if you don't buy the advanced? |
| 16:34.57 | kdean06 | Yes |
| 16:34.59 | wurp2|away | ScaredyCat: yep |
| 16:34.59 | mjr | ScaredyCat, yes |
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| 16:35.11 | ScaredyCat | k... |
| 16:35.13 | kdean06 | ScaredyCat, I suppose it's actually 4 |
| 16:35.22 | kdean06 | LED, Laser, Pen, Stylus. :P |
| 16:35.24 | wurp2 | At least 4 |
| 16:35.31 | ScaredyCat | *shudder* |
| 16:35.35 | wurp2 | ;-) |
| 16:35.38 | kdean06 | "Cat on the counter knocker offer" |
| 16:35.43 | mjr | also,you can stick it up your ass |
| 16:36.08 | nadio | For example, speaking to the GSM chip, with any other phone, you need an extra additional cable. |
| 16:36.24 | nadio | Is this required with openmoko as well ? |
| 16:36.32 | wurp2 | You can do that w/ software |
| 16:36.32 | SpeedEvil | define speaking. |
| 16:36.39 | ScaredyCat | blahblahblah |
| 16:36.47 | SpeedEvil | it's an AT modem essentially |
| 16:37.04 | SpeedEvil | with a flexible audio routing chip connected to A/D, D/A, speakers and mics |
| 16:37.46 | SpeedEvil | you can in principle do per speaker voice filters. So if someone has an annoyingly high voice, you can pitch bend them down |
| 16:38.46 | SpeedEvil | yeah. |
| 16:38.55 | SpeedEvil | Filter out those annoying cylon telemarketers. |
| 16:39.07 | nadio | So there is no extra cables really needed to speak with the gsm chip ? |
| 16:39.28 | SpeedEvil | what do you mean 'speak with'? |
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| 16:40.08 | nadio | For example, locking up the phone, requires and extra cable to do so. |
| 16:40.18 | SpeedEvil | locking up? |
| 16:41.00 | nadio | SpeedEvil: Surely you have heard about those famous unlocking of phones ? |
| 16:41.06 | nadio | Or changing the IMEI ? |
| 16:41.45 | SpeedEvil | oh - you can't unlock it. |
| 16:41.50 | SpeedEvil | As it's not locked |
| 16:41.53 | SpeedEvil | or change the IMEI |
| 16:43.39 | anrp | well you could if you were ti, or openmoko :-) but generally you can't |
| 16:43.50 | anrp | change the imei |
| 16:44.08 | anrp | err |
| 16:44.10 | anrp | i mean fic |
| 16:44.11 | anrp | i guess |
| 16:44.14 | nadio | I was just wondering If I can pass this commands on to the GSM with openmoko or is other hardware required |
| 16:44.16 | mjr | TI, certainly... |
| 16:44.44 | anrp | nadio: if you want, you can talk to the modem directly. there are no sim/operator locks |
| 16:44.53 | mjr | nadio, it's an AT modem. You can pass AT commands. These may include some undocumented ones to do locking/unlocking but that'd be TI's secrets |
| 16:45.18 | nadio | thanks, that answers my question. |
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| 16:56.54 | nadio | This me be offtopic, but anyone got information if FreeRunner will go for sale in next month ? |
| 16:58.03 | mjr | pretty much no information |
| 16:58.50 | mjr | personally I _guess_ late next month to be within realm of possibility, but wouldn't bet my business on it, had I the follow-through to have one |
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| 16:59.46 | PBeck | h |
| 17:00.04 | PBeck | hi |
| 17:00.39 | Kero | it's not only on topic, it's in the topic |
| 17:26.29 | spydon | Any inofficial updates on gta02? :P |
| 17:27.01 | Blastur | yeah, its shipping next week |
| 17:27.09 | Blastur | ... NOT! |
| 17:27.14 | Blastur | did you see there, i did the NOT-joke |
| 17:27.22 | Blastur | from borat movie.. k thnx |
| 17:28.59 | SpeedEvil | Do you also wear a mankini? |
| 17:29.58 | inwoo | is openOCD the only way to remote gdb? |
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| 17:36.12 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r4029 10/trunk/src/target/opkg/ (162 files in 3 dirs): opkg: re-arrange source code into sub-directories |
| 17:36.54 | wurp2 | SpeedEvil: Did you see my math yesterday re: diffraction? |
| 17:37.13 | SpeedEvil | No. |
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| 18:02.14 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r4030 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/util/ (atcmd.c shell.c): gsmd: fix error handling in libgsmd-tool (Paulius Zaleckas) |
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| 18:19.40 | orospakr | How's power management on the GTA01 these days? |
| 18:21.14 | SpeedEvil | Basivcally the same |
| 18:21.32 | SpeedEvil | progress is happening - but not in a way that's percolated through to the images |
| 18:25.41 | spydon | Does anyone know how many gta01 that have been sold? |
| 18:26.09 | dennda | all |
| 18:32.18 | SpeedEvil | on the order of 5000 |
| 18:32.41 | Blastur | hey SpeedEvil, you seem allknowing,, you dont happen to own a nslu2? :) |
| 18:32.53 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 18:33.07 | SpeedEvil | I do have a new linux router though |
| 18:33.24 | SpeedEvil | ADSL router with 4 port hub for 15 quid |
| 18:33.31 | SpeedEvil | 8M RAM, 2M ROM |
| 18:33.39 | SpeedEvil | And no GPL offer in the box. |
| 18:33.54 | Blastur | seems horrible? :) |
| 18:34.34 | SpeedEvil | It replaced one running vxworks. |
| 18:35.08 | Blastur | ive tried a number of routers, but none seems to offer the routing speed of my good old pentium 200 MMX ;D |
| 18:35.18 | Blastur | which runs without a fan btw |
| 18:35.35 | SpeedEvil | Well - yes - but it probably uses 20W or so. |
| 18:35.41 | SpeedEvil | more than a 'box' router |
| 18:36.05 | SpeedEvil | Which - at least here'd pay for a box router in a year or two. |
| 18:36.44 | SpeedEvil | (electricity is now 11p/unit - which is around a pound a year for a watt) |
| 18:36.46 | Blastur | yeah, true, but with one of those vxworks routers, i cant use 100% of my bandwidth |
| 18:37.02 | Blastur | if i only cared about money, id just sell all my equipment and move to the forrest :) |
| 18:38.08 | SpeedEvil | There is caring about money, and spending money on stuff that cuts your bills |
| 18:38.33 | SpeedEvil | to let you buy more nice stuff. |
| 18:38.54 | Blastur | i work instead |
| 18:38.55 | Blastur | ;-) |
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| 19:52.44 | El_Salvador | org |
| 19:55.19 | raynet | biz? |
| 19:55.49 | wurp2 | com. |
| 19:56.46 | Blastur | edu! |
| 19:56.57 | ewon | ie! |
| 19:57.01 | kdean06 | .museum ? |
| 19:57.22 | Blastur | xxx |
| 19:57.24 | raynet | . |
| 19:57.40 | kdean06 | Root FTW |
| 19:58.13 | kdean06 | I need more alcohol. BBIAB |
| 19:59.09 | wurp2 | BYOB |
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| 22:15.46 | abraxa_ | Does anyone here have troubles with his/her SD card no longer being operational on the Neo after an update? |
| 22:16.27 | mmontour | abraxa_: Yes, with the 2.6.24 kernel |
| 22:16.43 | abraxa_ | Likewise |
| 22:16.49 | abraxa_ | I'm trying to gather infos for a bug report |
| 22:17.53 | abraxa_ | I assume you haven't investigated, mmontour? |
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| 22:18.43 | mmontour | I mentioned it on the kernel list - http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-February/000808.html . I haven't done any further investigation; I just went back to 2.6.22.5 (since I have my root filesystem on SD) |
| 22:19.06 | wurp2 | I haven't tried any bleeding edge updates |
| 22:19.35 | wurp2 | But I know starting with the 1/29 jffs2 download I have had trouble with my symbolic link from /home/root to /media/card/home/root |
| 22:19.50 | wurp2 | Trouble, in that it works fine until I reboot, then it fails to come all the way up |
| 22:20.02 | wurp2 | and the messages I see are typical of failure to read the SD card |
| 22:20.45 | wurp2 | That's all on 2.6.22.5, though |
| 22:21.12 | abraxa_ | mmontour: I'll link to your post in the bugzilla entry then |
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| 22:25.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1223 has been created by abraxa(AT)dar-clan.de |
| 22:25.02 | cdbot2 | * * SD card no longer operational with 2.6.24 |
| 22:25.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1223 |
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| 23:14.35 | cesarb | inwoo: gdbserver |
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| 23:17.34 | inwoo | cesarb, : ty ;) |
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