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| 02:49.13 | rwhitby | Five new NSLU2 firmware releases now available: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.misc.nslu2.linux/20642 |
| 02:49.52 | rwhitby | (The NSLU2 is a good device to use as a bluetooth access point, or dfu-util flasher, or usb-networking device for the Neo1973) |
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| 04:01.53 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
| 04:02.01 | raddy | I need serious help |
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| 04:03.19 | raddy | We are in the process of dropping openmoko based application development if we didn't get a useful reply from you people |
| 04:03.45 | raddy | Please help |
| 04:04.29 | Twey | Hmm |
| 04:04.37 | Twey | That's a logical impossibility |
| 04:05.02 | Twey | You can't be in the process of doing something based on a condition that hasn't occurred yet |
| 04:05.05 | raddy | Building Openmoko is really really painful task |
| 04:05.11 | Twey | Unless you've discovered time travel |
| 04:05.20 | Twey | Have you? |
| 04:05.46 | raddy | Is it possible to bypass the build process? |
| 04:06.50 | Twey | I don't think there's a binary release anywhere yet |
| 04:07.16 | raddy | Or is it possible bypass downloading, |
| 04:08.00 | rwhitby | make flash-qemu-official run-qemu |
| 04:08.25 | Twey | < raddy> Or is it possible bypass downloading, -- what? |
| 04:08.27 | raddy | rwhitby: what that command do? |
| 04:08.36 | rwhitby | raddy: BTW, threats like that don't do much in the open source world. |
| 04:08.43 | Twey | You want to install some software without downloading it? :-\ |
| 04:09.20 | rwhitby | raddy: it runs the openmoko emulator with the latest official binary image |
| 04:10.42 | raddy | Twey : nope, we have fast internet connection in our server, but we are going build openmoko only in a laptop, is possible to download "ALL" needed stuff using our server and move the downloaded stuff to our laptop and start compiling from there? |
| 04:12.09 | raddy | rwhitby: FYI : i am not threating, we just lost so much man hours even for seting up openmoko build environment |
| 04:13.17 | rwhitby | raddy: there is a new binary SDK that's only just come out - I don't know how to use it. |
| 04:13.47 | raddy | rwhitby : ohh, where is it? |
| 04:15.25 | rwhitby | http://downloads.openmoko.org/toolchains/ |
| 04:16.35 | Aria | Niiice. |
| 04:16.39 | Aria | That's a good start. |
| 04:16.52 | raddy | rwhitby : wowwww |
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| 04:20.19 | raddy | rwhitby : greattttttttttttttttttttttt |
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| 04:27.52 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
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| 04:29.20 | raddy | For using Openmoko Toolchain, do i need to have any specific version of openmoko distribution in my phone? |
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| 05:26.44 | clare | Hi, ?? Please Which files should I put on the SD card so I can boot from it? |
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| 05:40.12 | clare | Hi again, sorry for asking a silly question, I am reading wiki/Booting_from_SD so will keep trying a while by myself. |
| 05:40.56 | clare | Problem is I managed to cause the Neo to forget it can read a card type ext2 |
| 05:48.13 | ljp | that toolchain is missing bluetooth |
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| 05:54.12 | clare | although it is quite able to mke2fs and thus format the card as ext2 - then unable to recognise it. |
| 05:54.35 | clare | I don't have a working Makefile setup currently. |
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| 07:19.52 | atul_1 | cm, I face this problem have a look on it. http://pastebin.ca/839841 |
| 07:21.35 | atul_1 | cm, any idea |
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| 07:50.52 | NineX | atul_1: google zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 , download it , put it into sources directory and rerun |
| 07:50.59 | NineX | ;P |
| 07:51.34 | NineX | atul_1: Resolving www.zlib.net... 0.0.0.0 ??? try to check your resolver ;P |
| 07:54.58 | Atul_ | Ninex, ok am trying and back to you. thx |
| 07:55.42 | NineX | clare: ext3 !! not ext2 ;P |
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| 07:57.18 | atul_1 | Ninex, can you tell me the exact dierectory where to put this zlib-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 07:58.50 | NineX | subdirectory named sources in the same directory where you have putted Makefile |
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| 07:59.43 | NineX | aa ant you need to make stamp file |
| 08:00.37 | NineX | touch build/tmp/stamps/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/zlib-1.2.3-r2.do_fetch |
| 08:00.50 | NineX | s/ant/and/ |
| 08:01.13 | NineX | then rerun process |
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| 08:03.33 | atul_1 | Ninext, I think actual in site have it is in maintains it wont allow me to download it says page not found |
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| 08:15.29 | clare | NineX, I have found out a lot since earlier. THe problem of losing the dvice altogether is solved. |
| 08:15.56 | clare | It seems to have been due to using the new uImage at kernel 2.6.23 without at the same time having |
| 08:16.28 | clare | matching modules etc. I have redone the /media/card and am putting the files in there againt o try to load them |
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| 08:17.47 | clare | meantime the failure of normal botting with the printing mixed over the logo has gone away. |
| 08:17.49 | clare | more later, |
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| 08:34.39 | NineX | clare: ? |
| 08:38.36 | clare | NineX, Hi, I tried again to boot from SD, but it sends and error message which went by even faster than |
| 08:39.01 | clare | before I have no chance of reading it. Are such messages findable in the Neo anywhere? |
| 08:39.25 | NineX | nope |
| 08:39.39 | clare | hehe |
| 08:39.44 | NineX | what sd card are you using, what version of u-boot |
| 08:40.36 | NineX | clare: do you tryed with u-boot taken froma buildhost.automated.it ? http://buildhost.automated.it/u-boot-good-for-sd-boot-r13_0_2632_0.bin |
| 08:41.04 | clare | SD card came with the machine 450M size. I did earlier, I can go back to that if it is really good, |
| 08:41.14 | clare | I will let you know the result |
| 08:42.03 | NineX | clare: tehere are u-boot issues . the last known u-boot version that corectly boot from SD are -r13_0_ 2632_0 |
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| 08:47.41 | torpor | ERROR: No providers of build target u-boot-openmoko (for []) |
| 08:47.45 | torpor | ^^^ wtf? |
| 08:48.17 | torpor | i am booting from SD .. it works well, onc eyou get the right uboot on there. i bricked a neo trying so .. |
| 08:48.54 | clare | NineX, Well, progress of a sort, it send a message and then went on to try and boot. |
| 08:49.38 | clare | It is in Panic, it gave a list of partitions then said No filesystem could mount root, |
| 08:49.42 | NineX | clare: connect your debugboard to get acces serial console... then you sholud have full output from your kernel |
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| 08:50.23 | clare | tried ext3, cramfs, romfs. ..Hmm I can try ext3 if Neo can wite it. |
| 08:50.29 | NineX | clare: so you have somethink fucked up with kernel and/or boot commandline ;P |
| 08:50.35 | clare | I dont have a debug board.. |
| 08:50.56 | NineX | show me your u-boot-env |
| 08:51.16 | clare | sorry i dont understand the question |
| 08:51.45 | NineX | clare: printenv from u-boot comandline |
| 08:53.09 | clare | eh? where is the commandline? |
| 08:55.22 | clare | final message from kernel was:VFS:Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,1) |
| 08:56.07 | clare | What I would like to know is whether I have the right things on the card supposing this were fixed. |
| 08:56.42 | clare | What I did was untar the qtopia tar.bz2 and put all the files on /media/card and then put the |
| 08:57.08 | NineX | clare: RTFM |
| 08:57.35 | clare | uImage file in its =directory boot. Oddly it had in there already a link to uImage 2.6.23 but the lib/modules were |
| 08:57.43 | NineX | clare: turnoff your phone |
| 08:57.58 | NineX | press end holed aux button |
| 08:58.02 | clare | 2.6.22, so I put in a uImage of 2.6.22 |
| 08:58.17 | NineX | press power button tu show menu |
| 08:58.30 | NineX | connect your phone to POC host via usb cable |
| 08:58.39 | NineX | s/POC/PC/ |
| 08:58.49 | clare | yes I do that |
| 08:58.59 | NineX | on host computer put cu -l /dev/ttyACM0 |
| 08:59.23 | NineX | you sholud have connection to u-boot command line |
| 08:59.31 | NineX | put printenv |
| 08:59.39 | NineX | end use pastebin.ca |
| 09:00.01 | clare | when I do the cu, is that on the normal PC or is it already logged in to the Neo? |
| 09:00.58 | NineX | no cu is a terminal emulator |
| 09:01.24 | NineX | it's connecting to termianl output of your u-boot |
| 09:02.29 | NineX | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973#Getting_access_to_the_bootloader_console |
| 09:02.36 | NineX | rad this |
| 09:02.41 | NineX | s/rad/read/ |
| 09:03.55 | clare | Yes, I will, there will be some delay now... |
| 09:04.49 | NineX | clare: http://pastebin.ca/839887 <- compare your Boot from SD entry with mine |
| 09:07.57 | NineX | clare: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/U-boot#Using_usbtty_from_Linux <- you will need exactly this |
| 09:08.44 | torpor | man what is up with this weeks release? |
| 09:08.48 | torpor | ERROR: No providers of build target u-boot-openmoko (for []) |
| 09:09.17 | NineX | torpor: http://pastebin.ca/838804 |
| 09:09.19 | NineX | :> |
| 09:09.24 | NineX | tthereis more |
| 09:09.35 | torpor | oh fuck |
| 09:10.01 | torpor | wtf, so much for the 'release engineer' doing his job. |
| 09:10.21 | torpor | her'es a rule: if you can't build it yourself, DON'T CHECK IT INTO THE PUBLIC TREE! some of us depend on this build working to completion .. |
| 09:11.16 | NineX | hehehe |
| 09:11.45 | torpor | not funny |
| 09:12.04 | torpor | oh wait, their build system is b0rked too .. |
| 09:12.05 | torpor | gah! |
| 09:14.35 | CVirus | hehe http://xkcd.com/364/ |
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| 09:41.05 | clare | NineX, I have done the compare yu asked for it is at http://pastebin.ca/839910 but have not |
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| 09:41.14 | clare | done any reading yet. thanks |
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| 09:53.36 | clare | NineX, I tried the next item,/U-boot#Using_usbtty_from_Linux but the first command lsusb came back |
| 09:55.14 | hrw | clare: you just got gta01? |
| 09:55.16 | clare | Unknown Command (and the earlier one on the PC, chown uucp.. got invalid user) |
| 09:56.12 | clare | hrw: no I got it some time back. quite early. but I am not a "developer" |
| 09:57.55 | hrw | I suggest to stay with booting from flash |
| 09:58.45 | clare | hrw. thanks for the thought, but if I was not a trier i wouldn't have bought the Neo :) |
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| 10:01.44 | hrw | torpor: it was fixed already |
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| 10:20.13 | rtp | jeddy3: ping ? |
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| 10:24.38 | rwhitby | clare from WA? |
| 10:26.08 | clare | rwhitby, yes, Hi. |
| 10:26.41 | rwhitby | g'day |
| 10:26.45 | rwhitby | (and HNY) |
| 10:27.07 | clare | rwhitby, and to you, cheers, |
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| 10:44.53 | jeddy3 | rtp, pong :) |
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| 10:53.18 | rtp | jeddy3: hehe :) |
| 10:55.24 | rtp | jeddy3: did you succeed ? |
| 10:57.41 | jeddy3 | rtp, no :| |
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| 10:58.30 | jeddy3 | rtp, i managed to get neo to send nmea over rfcomm, but n800 refuses to use them :P |
| 10:58.47 | rtp | jeddy3: can you try this small script : http://www.rtp-net.org/openmoko/gps ? [ you need gpsd on your neo ] |
| 10:59.42 | rtp | jeddy3: it's working here with maemo-mapper on os2008 |
| 10:59.58 | jeddy3 | rtp: sure, give me some moments though, neo is discharged as always :) |
| 11:00.06 | jeddy3 | rtp, nice! |
| 11:00.40 | rtp | jeddy3: take 2 neos and play with one while the other is charging :) |
| 11:00.50 | jeddy3 | :D |
| 11:01.07 | jeddy3 | rtp, what does that produce on n800's rfcomm? |
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| 11:02.11 | rwhitby | jeddy3: I've had maemo mapper on n800 receiving nmea from neo before |
| 11:02.20 | rwhitby | you have to wait till the neo gets a fix |
| 11:02.31 | jeddy3 | rwhitby, yes i have done that |
| 11:03.23 | rtp | rwhitby: even with a fix, it's not working here if you use something like 'cat' on the neo side |
| 11:03.29 | jeddy3 | rwhitby, and i have the n800 receiving all the nmea messages _with fix_ on rfcomm0 but i can't get either build in map software or maemo-mapper to recognize it |
| 11:03.47 | jeddy3 | rtp, cat is what i used :) |
| 11:04.21 | jeddy3 | rtp, i figured something was slightly wrong with the rfcomm stream, because it looks ok, but is not used anyway |
| 11:05.10 | rwhitby | note that I did this with the 2007.1 and the original gllin, not the new chrooted one on eabi 2007.2 |
| 11:05.29 | jeddy3 | rwhitby, hmm ok |
| 11:05.32 | SpeedEvil | jeddy3: what do you mweanb by 'with fix' |
| 11:05.36 | SpeedEvil | pate one GPGGA line |
| 11:06.02 | SpeedEvil | s/a/as/ |
| 11:06.04 | jeddy3 | SpeedEvil, just that the messages received are "fixed" ones |
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| 11:06.11 | rtp | jeddy3: yeah. If one run cat /dev/rfcomm0 | hexdump -C on the maemo side, he'll see 0x0d 0x0d 0x0a iirc even if the /tmp/nmeaNP was sending the right 0x0d 0x0a |
| 11:06.42 | jeddy3 | rtp, oh |
| 11:07.25 | jeddy3 | SpeedEvil, wait...i don't think i have one for pasting right now :)...neo is charging |
| 11:08.10 | jeddy3 | SpeedEvil, but it contains "...,FIX,..." and the "...,3,..." instead of "...,1,..." |
| 11:08.36 | jeddy3 | or wait, is it the other way around? |
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| 11:09.31 | rtp | jeddy3: if you have '$PGLOR,FIX,1.0' , you have a fix :) |
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| 11:10.10 | jeddy3 | rtp, yes that was it...was recalling from memory :) |
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| 11:10.30 | SpeedEvil | $GPGGA,121805.000,5611.8982,N,00310.4350,W,1,11,0.7,92.4,M,49.5,M,,0000*79 |
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| 11:10.40 | SpeedEvil | sjhould be the general form if you've got a fix too |
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| 11:11.13 | jeddy3 | SpeedEvil, yeah...i think it contains a lot of empty tokens if not |
| 11:13.04 | jeddy3 | SpeedEvil, rtp, but i have a feeling that wrong hexdump format might be it actually, because the transmitted nmea "looks" right |
| 11:13.57 | jeddy3 | rtp, btw, how do you get maemo-mapper to use rfcomm0, the "file path" option? |
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| 11:15.00 | rtp | jeddy3: GPS tab, "bluetooth" |
| 11:15.29 | jeddy3 | rtp, doh! yeah nothing :) |
| 11:15.44 | jeddy3 | rtp, of course x) |
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| 11:46.45 | sreekant1 | Hi all |
| 11:47.24 | sreekant1 | got the following error when i tried executing "om-conf openmoko-sample2" |
| 11:47.32 | sreekant1 | http://pastebin.com/d13c0aea9 |
| 11:47.49 | sreekant1 | what could be the reason for the error ? |
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| 12:03.59 | starox_away | sreekanth: See config.log in /home/sreekanth/openmoko-sample2/ |
| 12:04.11 | starox_away | I bet your compiler is not in PATH |
| 12:04.21 | sreekanth | oh |
| 12:04.58 | starox_away | sreekanth: or in CCACHE_DIR |
| 12:05.44 | sreekanth | starox_away: what is CCACHE_DIR ? |
| 12:06.46 | starox_away | forget it :) I mistaken with CCACHE_PATH |
| 12:07.09 | starox_away | CCACHE_PATH is the dir where ccache will search binaries |
| 12:07.18 | sreekanth | ok .. |
| 12:07.38 | starox_away | (CCACHE_DIR is where ccache puts cache files) |
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| 12:11.43 | sreekanth | starox_away: there is a line "configure: exit 77" at the end of the config.log file |
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| 12:14.17 | sreekanth | starox_away: here is the config.log file http://pastebin.com/d2cbe1ed7 |
| 12:17.51 | jeddy3 | rtp, yes! it works :D |
| 12:18.00 | jeddy3 | rtp, thank you! |
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| 12:23.38 | rtp | jeddy3: you're welcome :) |
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| 13:07.07 | sreekanth | hi all |
| 13:07.22 | starox_away | sreekanth: I think it use the native arm compiler (arm->arm) not the crosscompiler (xxx->arm) |
| 13:07.51 | starox_away | I'm not sure |
| 13:08.20 | sreekanth | starox_away : you know how to make to use cross compiler ? |
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| 13:10.19 | sreekanth | starox: can u suggest me any solution ?? |
| 13:10.29 | starox | sreekanth: I'm not used to openmoko/openembedded stuff. |
| 13:10.54 | sreekanth | oh ok .. |
| 13:12.01 | starox | sreekanth: Tell me which doc you follow .. how did you make your crosscompiler ? And first : file /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
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| 13:12.34 | sreekanth | starox: i am following the doc http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain |
| 13:14.04 | starox | sreekanth: You download the .tar.gz or use bitbake to build your own ? |
| 13:18.28 | starox | sreekanth|brb: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Exec format error -> I'm pretty sure the cross-compiler is not compiled for your host machine. |
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| 13:32.07 | sreekanth | starox: How do i compile it for my machine ? |
| 13:32.18 | sreekanth | i actually downloaded the cross compiler |
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| 13:37.16 | sreekanth | how do i compile the cross compiler for my host ? |
| 13:41.37 | starox | sreekanth: It's on the page you gave me : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain#Downloading_and_installing |
| 13:42.19 | starox | sreekanth: Have you downloaded the right archive ? what is the output of : file /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 13:42.59 | sreekanth | starox: /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped |
| 13:43.34 | starox | and file /bin/ls ? |
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| 14:26.06 | ewon | one can hack together a high-speed slow motion camera array with that many sensors |
| 14:26.45 | ScaredyCat | just look up :) |
| 14:27.04 | ScaredyCat | gps unit? |
| 14:27.09 | ScaredyCat | diy missile? |
| 14:27.28 | ewon | heh |
| 14:27.32 | SpeedEvil | GPS + 3d accelerometer + 3 axis gyro + sun-sensor + 3 axis magnetometer. |
| 14:27.41 | SpeedEvil | +barometer |
| 14:28.01 | ewon | I got abused by a british airways hostess for using my gps on the plane |
| 14:28.03 | ScaredyCat | http://www.interestingprojects.com/cruisemissile/ |
| 14:28.14 | mickeyl | ScaredyCat: heh, what did i? |
| 14:28.17 | mickeyl | +do |
| 14:28.24 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: Bruce what'shisname? |
| 14:28.45 | ScaredyCat | mickeyl: glib-native-2.0 |
| 14:28.52 | ScaredyCat | SpeedEvil: ya |
| 14:29.09 | mickeyl | ScaredyCat: didn't touch that since ages |
| 14:29.17 | SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/test.png (quick render) |
| 14:29.22 | ScaredyCat | it doesn;t exist mickeyl :) |
| 14:29.39 | SpeedEvil | (of the UAV) |
| 14:29.43 | ScaredyCat | but it is required for your new openmoko-terminal2 |
| 14:29.48 | mickeyl | aah |
| 14:29.52 | mickeyl | not for the terminal |
| 14:29.58 | mickeyl | guess that's introduced by vala-native |
| 14:29.59 | mickeyl | let me check |
| 14:30.02 | ScaredyCat | ya |
| 14:30.21 | mickeyl | heh |
| 14:30.24 | mickeyl | glib-2.0-native |
| 14:30.25 | mickeyl | vs. |
| 14:30.28 | mickeyl | glib-native-2.0 |
| 14:30.29 | mickeyl | ;) |
| 14:30.30 | mickeyl | sorry |
| 14:30.31 | mickeyl | fixing |
| 14:30.40 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 14:30.47 | ScaredyCat | wtf is that SpeedEvil! |
| 14:31.34 | SpeedEvil | ScaredyCat: it's a UAV optimised for taking pictures at altitude. The nacelles have battery, camera, computer in. |
| 14:32.04 | ScaredyCat | sweet... for a diy goole earch type thing ? |
| 14:32.12 | ScaredyCat | earth |
| 14:32.15 | SpeedEvil | That's the idea. Well. |
| 14:32.18 | SpeedEvil | To sell them. |
| 14:32.34 | ScaredyCat | estimated cost? (consumer) |
| 14:32.46 | SpeedEvil | I'm unsure. |
| 14:33.00 | SpeedEvil | V0 would be about 400 quid. |
| 14:33.17 | ScaredyCat | ok, no not like 4k then :) |
| 14:33.22 | SpeedEvil | But that's probably overkill dramatically on the required stuff. |
| 14:33.39 | ScaredyCat | k.. so sub 250 after a bit then |
| 14:33.41 | ScaredyCat | ? |
| 14:33.47 | SpeedEvil | It depends. |
| 14:33.53 | SpeedEvil | At the moment it's about a kilo. |
| 14:34.05 | SpeedEvil | Much of that is due to using an off-the-shelf digicam. |
| 14:34.07 | ScaredyCat | ouch |
| 14:34.50 | SpeedEvil | It could shrink down to easily half that, and become better aerodynamically with a custom camera. |
| 14:34.54 | SpeedEvil | But that gets expensive. |
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| 14:35.53 | ScaredyCat | I guess the problem is that the picture quality needs to be good otherwise it's pointless |
| 14:36.01 | SpeedEvil | It's a tradeoff. |
| 14:36.14 | SpeedEvil | A) aim for pure altitude and take great pics. |
| 14:36.38 | SpeedEvil | B) poorer pics lower to the ground, but lots of them. This means increased loiter time. |
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| 14:38.43 | SpeedEvil | B) also implies wings or fuel power not battery. |
| 14:39.09 | SpeedEvil | which means either horizontal landing, which is nasty and dangerous, or maintainance issues. |
| 14:40.09 | ScaredyCat | have you seen those quad hover thingys? |
| 14:40.24 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 14:40.55 | SpeedEvil | I want this thing to be ideally _reliable_. I'm hoping for >500 launches without issues. |
| 14:51.55 | magellan | speedEvil: are you using the OM to control a camera enabled UAV? |
| 14:52.06 | SpeedEvil | magellan: no. |
| 14:52.34 | SpeedEvil | magellan: unless I got a board from a partially functioning phone free |
| 14:52.46 | magellan | oh so the above isn't associated with OM, I didn't read all of it |
| 14:52.51 | SpeedEvil | The full phone is a bit too heavy. |
| 14:52.59 | magellan | what are you using to control the plane and camera |
| 14:53.01 | magellan | I see |
| 14:54.16 | magellan | sounds like fun though |
| 14:54.41 | SpeedEvil | probably tincantools.com 's thingy. |
| 14:54.48 | SpeedEvil | and lots of sensors |
| 14:56.21 | magellan | Im still struggeling with my usb issues |
| 14:56.34 | SpeedEvil | were you trying to put it in host mode? |
| 14:56.40 | magellan | I got the Host patch in there but now I have to get the driver in the kernel |
| 14:56.45 | magellan | yes |
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| 14:57.22 | SpeedEvil | I'd try finding where the mokomakefle puts the kernel source code, then patch there. |
| 14:57.42 | SpeedEvil | then run a nomrmal make openmoko-devel-image and install teh kernel |
| 14:57.47 | SpeedEvil | kernel/rootfs |
| 14:58.40 | magellan | >< |
| 14:58.56 | SpeedEvil | This is certainly not the right way to do it |
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| 14:59.19 | magellan | this is what I need: http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x356.html |
| 14:59.44 | magellan | I need to insmod the kernel in the OM as if it were in my computer |
| 15:00.15 | yashi | Happy New Year |
| 15:00.53 | magellan | grr wrong link:http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/x356.html this is what I need to get in there |
| 15:01.06 | magellan | the generic usb-serial driver |
| 15:01.44 | SpeedEvil | you don't care about that at first |
| 15:01.51 | SpeedEvil | you just care about getting lsusb working |
| 15:02.02 | SpeedEvil | worry about getting your particular thing working later |
| 15:02.43 | magellan | ok, lsusb is included but doesn't show the device once it is pluged in |
| 15:02.57 | SpeedEvil | right - so the device is not in host mode. |
| 15:03.01 | SpeedEvil | the port |
| 15:03.05 | magellan | it doesn't show up, I assumed because the driver isn't there |
| 15:03.11 | SpeedEvil | or there is something wrong. |
| 15:03.14 | SpeedEvil | nope. |
| 15:03.18 | SpeedEvil | it'll show up. |
| 15:03.29 | SpeedEvil | you don't need a driver before lsusb works |
| 15:03.33 | magellan | so lsusb should display it even if there is no driver for it |
| 15:03.37 | magellan | hmm |
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| 15:04.53 | magellan | well I did the patch for host mode and can now change usb_mode to host instead of device, Is there somehting I don't know about? |
| 15:05.40 | SpeedEvil | I don't know. |
| 15:05.49 | SpeedEvil | It's possible the patch is broken. |
| 15:05.51 | magellan | me either |
| 15:05.57 | SpeedEvil | It's possible you've miswired the cable. |
| 15:06.20 | SpeedEvil | It's possible the neo is broken in that the pullups cannot be disabled. |
| 15:06.31 | magellan | that is always possible, but not too likly, Im not colorblind |
| 15:06.45 | SpeedEvil | you've got 5V power seperate? |
| 15:06.51 | magellan | ya |
| 15:06.56 | SpeedEvil | also - 99.9% of cables share the same colouyr8ing. |
| 15:07.04 | SpeedEvil | a very few don't. |
| 15:07.36 | magellan | I have two leads comming out for power and the green and white are connected to green and white |
| 15:08.04 | magellan | has anyone actually used the thing as a USB host or are we just assuming that host mode will work |
| 15:08.21 | SpeedEvil | As far as I know, just assuming. |
| 15:08.29 | magellan | great |
| 15:10.37 | mjr | IIRC somebody said here that it'd worked for him, but not positive |
| 15:11.00 | SpeedEvil | I think that was a comment about it working in qemu |
| 15:11.07 | SpeedEvil | which isn't really helpful. |
| 15:11.35 | mjr | if it was, indeed it isn't |
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| 15:12.28 | magellan | right, I have it patched and the switch shows up for usb_mode, and I can change it to host, but there is no way to ensure it is working other then plugging something in |
| 15:15.35 | rtp | magellan: do you have an url for the patch for host mode ? |
| 15:16.12 | magellan | http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=876 |
| 15:16.24 | magellan | it is an attachment here |
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| 15:19.13 | magellan | rtp: any thoughts? |
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| 15:25.13 | rtp | magellan: the first thing I see is the two s3c2410_gpio_setpin(S3C2410_GPE5, X) calls. GPE5 are for the SD device |
| 15:27.07 | rtp | magellan: try changing to S3C2410_GPE5 to GTA01_GPIO_USB_PULLUP |
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| 15:41.15 | magellan | rtp: alright, Im editing the patch, two places, one for each mode |
| 15:41.21 | magellan | we will see what this does. |
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| 15:45.08 | jeddy3 | whats with the "Not searching", "Not searching",... spam? :) |
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| 15:51.57 | magellan | rtp: that failed to compile |
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| 15:52.49 | rtp | magellan: missing header ? :) |
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| 15:53.21 | magellan | I don't know, I just got the error and now Im looking into it |
| 15:53.38 | rtp | magellan: do you have #include <asm/arch/gta01.h> ? |
| 15:54.13 | magellan | nope |
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| 15:55.33 | magellan | but I'll put it in a ive it a shot |
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| 16:03.23 | magellan | rtp: Im not getting this to work |
| 16:03.42 | magellan | should I have the + in front of the include? |
| 16:06.08 | rtp | you're modifying the patch by hand and not the ohci-s3c2410.c file ? |
| 16:06.41 | magellan | I am modifying the patch |
| 16:07.43 | rtp | ah. I see. Use S3C2410_GPB9 instead. You won't have to add the extra header |
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| 16:08.24 | magellan | Ya I just saw that and am now compiling it. we will see |
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| 16:15.27 | ScaredyCat | mickeyl: ping |
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| 16:17.30 | magellan | rtp: looks as if it will compile, now to load and test |
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| 16:24.25 | mickeyl | ScaredyCat: pöng |
| 16:24.59 | ScaredyCat | ooo.. umlaut too :) |
| 16:25.39 | ScaredyCat | vte is vte-0.16.8 but vte-0.16.9 is required |
| 16:26.17 | mickeyl | override the PREFERRED_VERSION please |
| 16:26.24 | mickeyl | will do that in openmoko.conf soon |
| 16:26.29 | ScaredyCat | k |
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| 17:40.09 | cayco | anyone here? |
| 17:40.48 | magellan | I am |
| 17:41.15 | magellan | rtp: are you around? |
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| 17:43.33 | wurp2 | I'm here too |
| 17:44.01 | mwester | I'm virtually here. In reality, I'm in my office, supposedly at work. |
| 17:44.08 | wurp2 | likewise |
| 17:44.21 | wurp2 | they block irc, of course |
| 17:44.22 | magellan | me as well |
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| 17:44.38 | wurp2 | fortunately, they don't block ssh tunneled through their http proxy over 443 |
| 17:45.10 | magellan | http://ircatwork.com I just use this website |
| 17:45.42 | mwester | Wide open (outbound) network here... |
| 17:45.49 | wurp2 | I'm afraid to put it into the web browser - they try to block any site relating to IMing |
| 17:47.12 | wurp2 | Has anyone here had the modem firmware upgrade done? |
| 17:49.24 | wurp2 | Am I correct in my understanding that phone & sms basically completely work in the latest root image? |
| 17:49.32 | wurp2 | I think you had to install another app to do the SMS |
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| 17:57.47 | magellan | SpeedEvil: are you around? |
| 17:57.53 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 18:00.09 | magellan | I got it to show up in lsusb, rtp helped me find a wrong pin selection in the usb host patch for the neo |
| 18:00.21 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 18:00.25 | SpeedEvil | Great! |
| 18:00.34 | magellan | now I juat have to get the usb_serial driver into the kernel |
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| 18:07.23 | mwester | magellan: can you update the bug report with that original patch to reflect the pin number change? |
| 18:07.49 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 18:11.04 | magellan | mwester: should I edit the patch or just put a note with the bug report that I had to do X to get it to work. |
| 18:11.44 | magellan | I have only tested by plugging something in and verifying it in lsusb |
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| 18:32.49 | mwester | Just put a note with the bug report. |
| 18:33.34 | mwester | I'm curious where the original reporter of this got the information regarding the GPIO pin -- perhaps it's a different pin on different version of the GTA01/2? |
| 18:34.34 | magellan | I don't know, rtp helped me realize that it was the wrong one and I edited the patch and it worked |
| 18:34.58 | mjr | magellan, so you have host mode working on actual hardware? |
| 18:36.48 | mjr | iirc yeah at least if you feed power to that direction also |
| 18:37.01 | magellan | Let me be very specific, I patched it, built it, loaded it onto the OM, set usb_mode to host, plugged in a usb device with my own home made cable, and the device information shows up under lsusb |
| 18:37.55 | magellan | the device is usb-serial so now I am looking into how the driver should be built into the kernel so it will show up as a tty device. |
| 18:38.00 | mjr | *nod* |
| 18:38.31 | magellan | basically it could still crap out at any step but it does show up |
| 18:38.34 | mjr | getting to lsusb does seem to be likely to be most of it... |
| 18:38.38 | mwester | magellan: what is the vendor and device id from lsusb? |
| 18:39.04 | SpeedEvil | magellan: have you had the serial device working with any linux? |
| 18:39.16 | magellan | I'd rather not say as it is for work. |
| 18:39.28 | magellan | I have had it working under ubuntu and fedora core 6 |
| 18:39.41 | mwester | Ooooh secrets! |
| 18:39.47 | magellan | we have an application to drive it and now Im porting it to the device |
| 18:39.53 | magellan | once I get the driver in there |
| 18:40.26 | magellan | mwester: have you ever seen a professionally made three headed usb cable |
| 18:40.34 | magellan | ? |
| 18:41.03 | mwester | I was going to suggest just "ipkg install kernel-module-usbserial kernel-module-pl2303" but it isn't so simple if it's custom hardware. |
| 18:41.20 | mwester | Yep, I have the three-head cable for an external laptop usb drive. |
| 18:41.34 | magellan | where does one get that |
| 18:41.44 | magellan | we have one here but can't find where to buy another one |
| 18:42.09 | mwester | I got it with the enclosure, one of those no-name taiwanese ones from an eBay store. |
| 18:42.24 | magellan | 2 inch HD enclosure |
| 18:42.26 | magellan | ? |
| 18:42.45 | mwester | Yep, 2.5" hd enclosure. |
| 18:43.18 | magellan | that seems reasonable, now I have to find one by itself |
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| 18:46.16 | magellan | mwester: it does use the generic usb-serial driver though |
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| 23:08.22 | NineX | happy new year |
| 23:08.34 | peepsalot | happy bnu year |
| 23:08.40 | peepsalot | er gnu year |
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| 23:11.43 | *** topic/#openmoko by NineX -> Happy new BEER! The OpenMoko Project - http://openmoko.org - Neo1973 GTA01 on sale at https://direct.openmoko.com || Do not ask about GTA02 (Maybe March as of last update - yes, that's with WiFi, and no, there's no cam). Latest official update is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates |
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| 23:15.28 | ScaredyCat | hny |
| 23:15.40 | NineX | :> |
| 23:25.11 | TeNoVi | Happy new year! God nytt år! |
| 23:27.14 | aevin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:28.33 | NineX | :> |
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| 23:58.10 | hrw|gone | Happy New Year guys! |
| 23:58.13 | hrw|gone | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/01/01/2007-timeline/ |
| 23:58.21 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 23:58.26 | SpeedEvil | 1 min to here. |
| 23:59.06 | SpeedEvil | Happy new year all. |
| 23:59.08 | hrw|gone | Happy New Year SpeedEvil then ;) |
| 23:59.16 | raynet | that |
| 23:59.55 | raynet | if the rest of the year continues like the first 2 hours so far, it will be a great year |
