| 00:00.27 | iw3hj | hi |
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| 00:21.33 | jeremym | I have gps working but no matter what I do I cannot get a fix (A3). With a bluetooth gps beside my moko I can get a fix every time. |
| 00:22.00 | jeremym | Debugging suggestions? |
| 00:22.35 | SpeedEvil | Are you outdoors? |
| 00:23.07 | SpeedEvil | put it outdoors for 5 min, where it hasa a good view of the sky |
| 00:27.35 | ljp | i cant get a fix on the neo no matter what I do. my n810 works great |
| 00:28.02 | SpeedEvil | ljp: tried outdoors? |
| 00:28.07 | ljp | yes |
| 00:28.11 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 00:28.41 | ljp | n810 works like a charm |
| 00:29.01 | SpeedEvil | Is yours a production (paid) unit? |
| 00:29.13 | jeremym | I have aa IOGear gps and I can just put it by the window. It locks without any problems |
| 00:29.14 | ljp | neo? yes |
| 00:29.38 | ljp | i have even tried an external antennae |
| 00:29.38 | SpeedEvil | jeremym: some GPSs are rather better at locking than the neo in weak signal conditions. |
| 00:30.17 | jeremym | external antennae? Can msg me a link. |
| 00:30.24 | jeremym | I was thinking I may need one. |
| 00:30.38 | ljp | not sure where we got it. i just know one showed up on my desk :) |
| 00:30.56 | jeremym | What kind of connector do I need. |
| 00:31.08 | SpeedEvil | ljp: I'd suggest poking one of the devs. |
| 00:31.35 | SpeedEvil | Also - take it apart, and check that the grey antenna wire is not pinched |
| 00:31.42 | ljp | someone said to take it apart and check the leads |
| 00:31.52 | SpeedEvil | possibly me. |
| 00:31.53 | jeremym | I have maemo-mapper hacked enough to come up. Though I can't get a location lock. Now that bluetooth is working on my neo I can continue developement. |
| 00:32.00 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
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| 01:21.09 | jeremym | what kind of connector is the external antenna? |
| 01:21.15 | jeremym | for the gps that is. |
| 01:21.18 | SpeedEvil | the one on the side |
| 01:21.22 | SpeedEvil | dunno the name |
| 01:22.01 | jeremym | I would like to buy an external antenna but need to know the name. |
| 01:22.18 | jeremym | Is there a way to make the GPS run at higher power? |
| 01:25.30 | thomasg | no, there isn't. |
| 01:25.33 | thomasg | gps is passive. |
| 01:26.01 | SpeedEvil | yes there is. An antenna with gain. |
| 01:26.17 | SpeedEvil | Determining where to point it is interesting of course :) |
| 01:26.26 | SpeedEvil | however. |
| 01:26.34 | SpeedEvil | Active antennas are widely available. |
| 01:26.47 | SpeedEvil | The problem is that you have no real reason to suppose that it'll help. |
| 01:26.55 | thomasg | well, a antenna doesn't make the gps run at higher power :) |
| 01:27.07 | SpeedEvil | Diddn't help ljp for example. |
| 01:27.17 | thomasg | but you're right of course |
| 01:27.40 | thomasg | but I've never seen an active antenna |
| 01:27.56 | SpeedEvil | they are common |
| 01:28.22 | jeremym | if I knew the connector type for this thing, or are they standard. |
| 01:28.24 | jeremym | ? |
| 01:28.36 | thomasg | so it's an antenna plus amplifier, SpeedEvil? |
| 01:28.43 | SpeedEvil | thomasg: basically. |
| 01:28.56 | thomasg | jeremym: the neo uses a standard-connector |
| 01:29.00 | SpeedEvil | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GPS-Active-Antenna-for-Mio-168-268-269-C510-C710_W0QQitemZ150196580507QQihZ005QQcategoryZ139836QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 01:29.06 | SpeedEvil | first of a few dozen hits |
| 01:29.16 | thomasg | jeremym: it's called MMCX |
| 01:29.28 | jeremym | I was looking at these: http://www.wi-sys.com/products/antennas/gps_antenna.php |
| 01:29.49 | thomasg | SpeedEvil: so where's the active part of this antenna? |
| 01:30.05 | thomasg | I don't see a powerconnector, only the mmcx-connector |
| 01:30.25 | thomasg | or do they call antennas with a gain "active"? |
| 01:30.29 | SpeedEvil | there is a bias voltage applied to the connectors. |
| 01:30.32 | xcasex | neat. i can charge my neo w. my htc charger :> |
| 01:30.35 | SpeedEvil | there is a bias voltage applied to the connector. |
| 01:30.45 | SpeedEvil | and it powers the amp |
| 01:31.03 | thomasg | ok. the neo supports this bias? |
| 01:31.27 | SpeedEvil | I don't know if the neo needs software to enable the external antenna. roh? |
| 01:33.11 | thomasg | no, that's not what I meant. the bias-t normally works with a defined DC voltage which must be available on the mmcx-connector - I do not really know how this works for gps-devices, is this standard? |
| 01:33.34 | SpeedEvil | I think there is a sort-of-standard at 3-5V |
| 01:33.47 | SpeedEvil | I haven't really looked into it. |
| 01:34.18 | thomasg | as the gps is only a reciever and works passive I assumed that there wasn't any active power for antenna connectors, but I might be wrong. |
| 01:36.25 | jeremym | I tossed my neo out on the street in the hope that it the GPS will lock and that it wont rain or snow ;-) |
| 01:38.54 | thomasg | SpeedEvil: ok, I found a description for an active antenna which includes a 3.3V DC powered amplifier that is powered over the mmcx-port. |
| 01:39.16 | thomasg | every day new things to learn :) |
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| 02:41.34 | thomasg | is there a known way to revive a "locked" neo w/o disconnecting the battery? |
| 02:42.28 | Vegar | locked? |
| 02:42.37 | thomasg | the powermanagement-feature |
| 02:43.29 | Vegar | doesn't the power button work? |
| 02:43.34 | thomasg | not for me, no |
| 02:43.44 | Vegar | if you hold it for 8 seconds? |
| 02:44.12 | thomasg | ..6..7..8... no :) |
| 02:44.55 | thomasg | it answers icmp ping but I cannot connect over ssh |
| 02:47.49 | daMaestro | thomasg, i have to take out the battery |
| 02:48.04 | thomasg | daMaestro: same for me, hoped there would be another way |
| 02:48.12 | daMaestro | thomasg, let me know if so |
| 02:48.17 | thomasg | I will |
| 02:48.24 | daMaestro | i just stopped using lock because i figured it was just a software bug |
| 02:48.57 | thomasg | ya, but I wanted to try it again after some weeks and some updates. still doesn't work :) |
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| 04:29.33 | nadio | anyone got a picture of GTA02 ? |
| 04:32.09 | summatusmentis | afaik, it looks like GTA01 |
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| 04:41.12 | sreekanth | Hi all |
| 04:41.54 | sreekanth | when i run make setup of the mokomake file, i am the following line |
| 04:42.02 | sreekanth | Fetching external item into 'openmoko/tags/repository-before-first-cleanup-2007-12-12/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-today2/libkoto' |
| 04:42.12 | sreekanth | after that there is no network or disk activity |
| 04:42.28 | sreekanth | what could be the reason ? |
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| 04:45.17 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
| 04:45.30 | raddy | Is there an alternative svn mirror? |
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| 04:47.14 | sreekanth | can any one reply for my question ? |
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| 04:48.04 | Atul_ | Hi sreekanth what is your question ? |
| 04:50.26 | raddy | Atul_: sreekanth's problem is, he is not able to checkout openmoko svn tree completely when he followed http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_OpenMoko_from_scratch |
| 04:51.48 | raddy | Atul_: Both me and sreekanth are try to setup a development environment, |
| 04:52.22 | Atul_ | raddy what you people are trying for |
| 04:52.38 | Atul_ | means you want to setup an moko environment |
| 04:53.34 | Atul_ | raddy, why you try for 2007.1 build try for 2007.2 build it is most recent and stable |
| 04:54.08 | Atul_ | raddy, try this http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko2007.2 |
| 04:54.15 | Atul_ | raddy, it works fine |
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| 04:55.23 | Atul_ | raddy, better try using make file method it is bit easy |
| 04:55.32 | Atul_ | raddy, use this link for it http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile#Building_OpenMoko_with_MokoMakefile |
| 04:55.50 | raddy | Atul : ohh, is it possible to get verbose output from make setup? |
| 04:57.10 | Atul_ | raddy, verbose output means i dont have any idea |
| 04:58.35 | raddy | Atul_: : when i ran make setup, i am not getting any output other than some svn blah blah |
| 04:59.05 | nadio | I cant find any mp3 player ? projects.openmoko.org |
| 05:01.43 | Atul_ | raddy make setup download all set variable embedded related stuff for you is it work or falis |
| 05:02.30 | raddy | Atul_: i am just getting this output, |
| 05:02.31 | raddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.31 | raddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.54 | raddy | Atul_: then there is no network or disk activity |
| 05:03.02 | Atul_ | raddy, yes it take couplle of hour |
| 05:03.08 | Atul_ | so yuou have to wait |
| 05:04.22 | raddy | Atul_: Ohh, it possible to sense any activity? |
| 05:05.20 | Atul_ | raddy, jsut wait let it will finish ok |
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| 05:05.40 | raddy | Atul_: :( |
| 05:10.24 | rwhitby | raddy: your svn connection is hung |
| 05:10.39 | rwhitby | if it was building, there would be much more output after that svn command |
| 05:11.31 | rwhitby | if you run that svn command by hand does it complete? if not, then that's your problem. Fix that and then the rest will continue. |
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| 05:12.36 | nadio | 0 projects in mp3, does openmoko support mp3 ? |
| 05:12.47 | nadio | that sounds little odd to me that it should not |
| 05:21.14 | balrog-kun | in a way yes, through the mp3 players available from oe |
| 05:21.51 | nadio | oe? |
| 05:23.36 | balrog-kun | i mean if you write "ipkg install mpg123" or similar, you get working mpg123 on openmoko |
| 05:23.56 | balrog-kun | same for madplay, gstreamer, xmms, mplayer, perhaps more |
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| 05:37.47 | nadio | oh thanks |
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| 05:52.28 | sreekanth | can i use make instead of make setup ? |
| 05:52.33 | sreekanth | for mokomake file ?? |
| 05:56.53 | mwester | sreekanth: If you type "make", it will attempt to build the "all" target, which is different than the "setup" target. |
| 05:57.28 | sreekanth | So that includes make setup also rite ? |
| 05:57.51 | mwester | Perhaps. |
| 05:58.00 | mwester | Reading the Makefile will tell you. |
| 05:58.16 | sreekanth | ok .. actually I am not able to use make setup |
| 05:58.33 | mwester | Generally you do not wish to build "all", most people build only a specific item. |
| 05:58.47 | sreekanth | thats why i thought of using make instead of make setup |
| 05:58.47 | mwester | If you cannot do "make setup", then nothing else will work. |
| 05:58.53 | sreekanth | oh |
| 05:59.06 | mwester | You must get "make setup" to work first - that is a prerequisite. |
| 05:59.30 | sreekanth | mwester: i am getting some thing like below |
| 05:59.31 | sreekanth | bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o |
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| 05:59.38 | sreekanth | sorry wrong paste |
| 05:59.44 | sreekanth | ( svn co -r HEAD \ |
| 05:59.44 | sreekanth | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.53 | sreekanth | when i execute make setup |
| 06:00.05 | mwester | Right. It's downloading software from svn.berlios.de |
| 06:00.16 | sreekanth | mwester: after that there is no file or network activity |
| 06:00.24 | mwester | Then you need to fix that first. |
| 06:00.52 | sreekanth | oh.. what could be the reason for that and can u tell me how to fix that ? |
| 06:01.42 | mwester | It could be many reasons. Start by making sure that you can reach (i.e. "ping") svn.berlios.de, then issue the command manually and see what diagnostics it might print. |
| 06:02.18 | raddy | mwester : Isn't there a verbose option? |
| 06:02.57 | mwester | For svn? Perhaps, but start by making sure you can ping svn.berlios.de, and run svn manually. |
| 06:03.11 | sreekanth | ok |
| 06:06.33 | sreekanth | mwester: i am ping the server |
| 06:07.10 | sreekanth | *able* |
| 06:07.41 | mwester | Ok, then run the command manually. Just type: svn co -r HEAD http://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/bitbake/tags/bitbake-1.8.8 bitbake |
| 06:08.57 | sreekanth | ok .. |
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| 06:14.31 | sreekanth | mwester: svn co is not progressing again. |
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| 06:17.32 | sreekanth | mwester: does makefile has any dependency on Hardware/Software environment? I am using fedora 8 on AMD Turion 64 |
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| 06:20.24 | mwester | Yes, there are hardware and software requirements, they are documented on the wiki (somewhere). They should not affect svn, however. If it is not progressing, then there is probably something not right about your network connection. Check your firewall, perhaps. |
| 06:21.42 | sreekanth | ok |
| 06:23.05 | sreekanth | Do i need to disable the firewall ? |
| 06:25.34 | mwester | You shouldn't have to; I don't. But something is preventing svn from working for you; you need to find out what that is and fix that before you can continue. |
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| 06:26.24 | sreekanth | ok |
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| 07:38.24 | raddy | Is there any alternative svn servers out there for openmoko? |
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| 07:40.50 | mwester | What connection is failing? |
| 07:41.37 | raddy | mwester : problem seems in the client side :( |
| 07:41.57 | mwester | If its the client, then why would an alternate svn server be of any use? |
| 07:42.24 | raddy | mwester : sorry, my bad :( |
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| 08:23.58 | derekcorwin | Sup |
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| 09:10.08 | daMaestro | wow |
| 09:10.16 | daMaestro | sms support just improved a bunch, good work |
| 09:10.21 | daMaestro | i can actually read messages now |
| 09:10.29 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 09:17.10 | zilux | projects.openmoko.org: svn down? |
| 09:21.46 | mbuf | zilux, i am able to checkout code |
| 09:22.01 | daMaestro | hmm is there a way to force feedreader to fetch updated feeds? |
| 09:23.12 | zilux | mbuf: do you use svn+ssh? |
| 09:23.37 | mbuf | zilux, only when i want to checkout, modify and check-in code |
| 09:24.17 | zilux | mbuf: thanks. It suddenly stopped to work here yesterday evening. |
| 09:25.10 | mbuf | zilux, which timezone are you in? |
| 09:25.23 | zilux | Europe, Paris |
| 09:25.50 | mbuf | zilux, ok |
| 09:28.08 | mbuf | zilux, svn+ssh doesn't work |
| 09:29.22 | zilux | mbuf: ok, relatively good news :-) |
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| 09:31.44 | zilux | mbuf: who is the contact? |
| 09:32.30 | mbuf | zilux, Michael Shiloh, I believe |
| 09:32.42 | zilux | ok thanks. |
| 09:33.05 | mbuf | zilux, i think it is better to shoot an e-mail to openmoko-devel, so others are informed, as well |
| 09:33.32 | derekcorwin | I keep getting GSM error code 15 when I try to register on the network |
| 09:33.43 | derekcorwin | Sorry it's error 32 |
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| 09:33.59 | SpeedEvil | Well - yes - but that's _much_ less hastle than trying to unpot and repot in plastic though |
| 09:34.01 | SpeedEvil | oops |
| 09:34.25 | derekcorwin | Is there any way to determine if it's a sim card compatibility issue or what it is? |
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| 09:36.51 | zilux | mbuf: ok, posted. |
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| 09:38.19 | mbuf | zilux, thanks |
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| 09:49.25 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 09:50.08 | mbuf | Hopscotch, good morning |
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| 11:14.01 | sreekanth | are there any network settings needed for svn ? |
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| 11:16.57 | mbuf | sreekanth, svn+ssh is temporarily not working, if that is what you are currently using |
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| 11:24.16 | josch | hi! any kernel hackers around? |
| 11:24.33 | josch | I put debian on my sdhc flash and booted it with the kernel in flash |
| 11:24.44 | josch | everything perfect, can ssh in and everything |
| 11:24.54 | josch | but there ist no /dev/fb0 |
| 11:25.11 | josch | so how do I activate framebuffer in the openmoko kernel? |
| 11:25.30 | josch | since it works with the openmoko rootf it seems I'm missing something |
| 11:25.57 | josch | I tried copying /lib/modules/2.6.22.5-moko11/ from openmoko to debian but |
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| 11:26.26 | mbuf | josch, enable it in "make menuconfig" ? can you post your kernel .config to pastebin.ca or rafb.net? |
| 11:26.27 | josch | aside from not complaining over a missing modules.dep anymore framebuffer still not works |
| 11:26.39 | josch | mbuf, it'ts the stock kernel |
| 11:27.03 | josch | this one: http://downloads.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.11/images/neo1973/ |
| 11:29.16 | josch | so since I have framebuffer in openmoko I though that there is nothing preventing its loading? |
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| 11:32.11 | mbuf | josch, lsmod | grep fb ? or "find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep fb" |
| 11:32.24 | mbuf | josch, on the target Neo |
| 11:32.48 | mbuf | josch, i haven't tried fb on the Neo though |
| 11:33.08 | josch | lsmod | grep fb returned nothing if executed in openmoko |
| 11:33.25 | josch | neither does the second command |
| 11:35.40 | josch | mbuf, framebuffer works flawless in openmoko - played a lot of videos with mplayer in it |
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| 11:37.17 | josch | mbuf, do you know someone which might be able to help with this problem? |
| 11:38.50 | mbuf | josch, not sure; i am not sure which module it is for the Neo; |
| 11:40.04 | josch | so you suspect a module missing? |
| 11:40.47 | josch | I also thought of this so I copied the whole modules dir from openmoko to debian but without success |
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| 11:46.35 | PBeck | hi |
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| 11:54.11 | ahven | um |
| 11:54.23 | ahven | viagra adds in the mailinglist? :P |
| 11:55.44 | PBeck | ahven: ne sponsor :> |
| 11:55.46 | PBeck | *new |
| 11:55.56 | ahven | seems so :) |
| 11:56.10 | PBeck | ^^ |
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| 14:17.03 | Ghiottone | merry christmas! |
| 14:19.18 | Stephmw | And to you too :) |
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| 14:24.38 | Sup3rkiddo | hello everyone merry christmas...is there any news for the fate of the current gsmd...especially the dbus based gsmd2 as the de facto for the neo...(discounting PhoneServer) |
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| 15:01.16 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03laforge * r3735 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta02-core.patch: fix GTA02 gsm power switching (Sean Chiang) |
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| 15:13.02 | josch | +1 to Sup3rkiddo's question :-) |
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| 15:55.54 | *** topic/#openmoko is The OpenMoko Project - http://openmoko.org - Neo1973 GTA01 on sale at https://direct.openmoko.com || Do not ask about GTA02 (Maybe March as of last update - yes, that's with WiFi, and no, there's no cam). Latest official update is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates |
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| 16:20.45 | tsuramoto | just the basics |
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| 16:43.28 | Sup3rkiddo | hi all...has svn at projects.openmoko.org been fixed yet |
| 16:45.54 | zilux | Sup3rkiddo: does not work here |
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| 16:46.53 | Sup3rkiddo | zilux: hmmm...dang..thanks for checking |
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| 16:53.36 | PBeck | hi |
| 16:53.36 | Sup3rkiddo | hi |
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| 18:20.07 | wurp2 | Does anyone know what ipk provides the python cgi module? |
| 18:20.36 | wurp2 | I don't see python_cgi*.ipk on any server I've checked |
| 18:28.46 | Sup3rkiddo | hey all...the messages GUI doesnt have sms sending stuff yet..does it? |
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| 18:51.18 | zilux | wurp2: from a comment in a python bitbake |
| 18:51.21 | zilux | python-simplejson_1.7.1.bb:7:# python-netserver is needed for cgi stuff |
| 18:51.54 | wurp2 | zilux: Thanks much! |
| 18:52.29 | wurp2 | Now I need to learn enough about how all the openmoko build stuff is put together so I can figure that stuff out myself :-) |
| 18:53.14 | zilux | not very far from this state, here :-) |
| 18:54.37 | wurp2 | Right now my main goal is to get pyroute working on my neo and reading the gllin output properly |
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| 19:08.08 | kamathln | this thng looks cool! would be interesting to have penmoko running on it ! |
| 19:08.08 | kamathln | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3871478989.html |
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| 19:08.45 | SpeedEvil | It doesn't work as well as you think. |
| 19:08.49 | SpeedEvil | The connectors kill you. |
| 19:08.56 | SpeedEvil | And the multiple power supplies and cases. |
| 19:09.22 | kamathln | SpeedEvil: looks like u already tried it ? |
| 19:09.30 | SpeedEvil | No, I've looked into it. |
| 19:09.41 | kamathln | SpeedEvil: ok |
| 19:09.41 | SpeedEvil | The fundamental problem is that stuff is different sizes. |
| 19:09.55 | kamathln | SpeedEvil: like ? |
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| 19:10.10 | SpeedEvil | For example, if you put it on at build time, an accelerometer takes up 3*4mm of PCB space and costs maybe $2-3 |
| 19:10.35 | SpeedEvil | If you've got to add it as a module on a generic bus, the connectors alone will cost that. |
| 19:10.43 | kamathln | oh! |
| 19:11.12 | SpeedEvil | If you want to be able to put a camera on the expansion, then you need a comparatively fast bus with lots of wires. |
| 19:11.33 | SpeedEvil | Which is fine pitch, and won't have lots of mating cycles before it fails. |
| 19:11.37 | kamathln | SpeedEvil: valid oint |
| 19:11.54 | kamathln | SpeedEvil: s/oint/point |
| 19:12.13 | SpeedEvil | this means that the rest of the hardware has to be built to close tollerances to allow the connector to mate properly. And the camera now has to be static protected, it's not automatically done by being in circuit, ... |
| 19:12.24 | kamathln | SpeedEvil: any link to the actual manufacturer? |
| 19:12.26 | SpeedEvil | It's a nice idea - but will not be cheaper. |
| 19:12.46 | SpeedEvil | 'A New York-based startup is readying' |
| 19:12.55 | kamathln | ok |
| 19:12.56 | SpeedEvil | In other words, they haven't got any working yet |
| 19:13.05 | kamathln | ok |
| 19:13.08 | SpeedEvil | and no prices or availability sorted. |
| 19:13.24 | SpeedEvil | These sort of problems can be solved in volume. The problem is getting the volume is hard. |
| 19:13.27 | kamathln | u mean still in "alpha" ? |
| 19:13.30 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 19:13.40 | SpeedEvil | the bits they've got look very mockup |
| 19:14.25 | kamathln | what is the connector ? |
| 19:14.27 | kamathln | usb ? |
| 19:14.42 | kamathln | of course does not look like a standard usb |
| 19:15.26 | kamathln | The only advantage I see is that the same gadgets might be connectable to a regular pc/ laptop |
| 19:25.02 | Tronic | That idea is b0rked. |
| 19:25.24 | Tronic | Maybe as a toy or something alike (like Legos), but not as anything serious. |
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| 19:25.49 | Tronic | The modules take too much space and cost a lot, compared to what they do. |
| 19:26.53 | Tronic | And then, Lego Technic and Creator series do that part just fine, so I don't see much room for competition there. |
| 19:27.27 | Tronic | There's also BASIC Stamp series of microcontrollers, sensors and robotics, for those who want to tinker more. |
| 19:28.07 | kamathln | cool! |
| 19:29.26 | SpeedEvil | A serial bus can help a fair bit. USB2 is a pretty good match. |
| 19:29.35 | SpeedEvil | It addresses most of the concerns. |
| 19:29.48 | SpeedEvil | but raises more. |
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| 19:45.49 | zilux | wurp2: navit here. |
| 19:46.17 | wurp2 | I much prefer python for apps to C |
| 19:46.29 | wurp2 | except for the places that profiling shows as an issue |
| 19:46.50 | wurp2 | And as a bonus I can do little hacks on my neo directly, or so I hope |
| 19:47.25 | thomasg | is it possible to turn the display of the neo off? |
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| 20:32.46 | kdean06 | I'm pulling the trigger this weekend and getting the base model Neo.. I see that it includes the 512MB microSD card, but the picture shows a microSD adapater... Is the adapter not needed or does the Neo actually have a full size SD slot? |
| 20:32.58 | kdean06 | And the next question, will full size SD cards work? |
| 20:33.49 | mmontour | kdean06: The Neo only uses microSD cards. |
| 20:34.13 | balrog-kun | the adapter is not needed afaik, unless you want to use the card with a card reader |
| 20:34.18 | kdean06 | So the adapter isn't actually needed if the card will be used ONLY on the Neo... |
| 20:34.21 | kdean06 | Okay. ;) thanks. |
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| 21:08.35 | Sup3rkiddo | hey all...http://sudharsh.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/screenshot-1.png sorry if it scares you..but it works.. |
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| 21:09.39 | thomasg | wuah, scary :P |
| 21:10.20 | Sup3rkiddo | so much for ma GUI designing skills..bleh...but it works |
| 21:10.43 | zash | but, IM-conversation style /me wants |
| 21:11.26 | Sup3rkiddo | ~trout zash |
| 21:11.27 | apt | ACTION slaps zash around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:11.58 | Sup3rkiddo | svn is still down, right? |
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| 21:13.06 | Sup3rkiddo | gnight all....happy hacking |
| 21:13.56 | SpeedEvil | Night! |
| 21:14.15 | Sup3rkiddo | bleh.. |
| 21:14.34 | Placid | ~trout SpeedEvil |
| 21:14.35 | apt | ACTION slaps SpeedEvil around a bit with a large trout! |
| 21:15.49 | zash | ~fish itself |
| 21:15.50 | apt | ACTION slaps itself around with a large trout |
| 21:16.31 | zash | what, "öring"? |
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| 21:33.13 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3736 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/ (ar6000.c s3c.h s3c2410.c s3c24xx_mmci.c): |
| 21:33.13 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Add the S3C2440 register map for MMC/SD/SDIO host. |
| 21:33.13 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Set SDIO R4 Card-ready bit when card is ready. |
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| 21:38.43 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3737 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/linux-gta02-pseudo.patch: Patch the kernel to see S3C2410 register map, rather than 2440. |
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| 22:06.20 | borg_ | is someone here with a working gprs-connect-chat configuration? |
| 22:06.30 | borg_ | i get "Connect script failed" everytime |
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| 22:23.24 | Tronic | borg_: For dialing? |
| 22:23.38 | Tronic | Consider using wvdial instead of pppd chatscripts. |
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| 22:25.11 | Tronic | It makes the process real easy. Mostly you just need to configure which device to use, the phone number and loginname/password (if used). |
| 22:25.36 | borg_ | is wvdial in the repository? |
| 22:26.14 | borg_ | can't find it |
| 22:26.15 | Tronic | I don't have OpenMoko, no idea. |
| 22:27.29 | Tronic | I use that on my Gentoo laptop for GPRS/3G dialing, using Nokia cellphone over Bluetooth or Huawei HSDPA modem over USB. |
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| 22:39.53 | SpeedEvil | Ok. I have 'messages' up. (todays version). It (for the first time) when I start it shows 'unknown sender' - which I believe to be a message from my provider. How do I read it? |
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| 23:01.51 | kdean06 | libervisco, Greetings. :) |
| 23:04.13 | paulproteus | Sup3rkiddo, Howdy |
| 23:05.06 | paulproteus | Anyone developing apps on Qtopia? |
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| 23:07.32 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3738 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/ar6000.c: |
| 23:07.32 | CIA-15 | openmoko: SDIO CMD5 doesn't change state in "initialization". |
| 23:07.32 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Don't reset the always-one flags in card status word. |
| 23:07.32 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Common CIS pointer is an offset from CIA, not CIS start. |
| 23:07.33 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Add some common CIS tuples similar to those on a real AR6001. |
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