| 00:01.00 | yoyo | time to sleep 28800; |
| 00:01.02 | yoyo | seeya |
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| 01:15.52 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3723 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/VERSION: Set a specific VERSION string indentifying the tree. |
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| 02:24.12 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3724 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/ (sd.c sd.h): Make sd_state_e global, implement SD CMD8 and R7 from SD spec 2.00. |
| 02:29.51 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3725 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/sd.c: Fix errors and warnings resulting from new SDIO only states. |
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| 03:01.07 | CIA-15 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3726 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:01.07 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Initial version of Atheros AR6001 files. Currently it's a dummy SDIO with the |
| 03:01.07 | CIA-15 | openmoko: correct Manufacturer/Card ID. SDIO FBR I/O not yet support. |
| 03:01.07 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Attach the AR6k to the SD slot of gta02fake. |
| 03:01.07 | CIA-15 | openmoko: Add missing CISTPL IDs to pcmcia.h as they're now shared with SDIO. |
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| 04:21.17 | readon | i want to make the input of serial line become the standard input of tty0. what would i do? |
| 04:23.31 | balrog-kun | you can't change tty0, you can change the default console |
| 04:23.49 | balrog-kun | system console |
| 04:23.57 | balrog-kun | or you can just run a getty on a serial, too |
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| 04:33.51 | readon | i am porting directfb, it use tty%s by default |
| 04:34.59 | readon | it use keyboard as its input, but the device does not have one. |
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| 05:08.32 | dbmoodb | mmm wikipedia still says december release for the openmoko v2 ? |
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| 05:43.11 | Linux_Galore | dbmoodb: January according to the rss feeds |
| 05:43.23 | dbmoodb | so why do we have a topic of march ? |
| 05:44.21 | Linux_Galore | might have been moved back. OM are having a Vista release heh |
| 05:44.46 | dbmoodb | om ? |
| 05:44.52 | Linux_Galore | openmoko |
| 05:44.53 | dbmoodb | vista |
| 05:44.58 | dbmoodb | hits head |
| 05:47.23 | Linux_Galore | shame, by then Android based phones will be appearing |
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| 05:49.36 | sdubois92 | Does anyone know if a tracfone SIM will work on a Neo1973? |
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| 07:23.21 | jeremym | where can I find gdb which I can run on the moko. Strace is not that informative at this point. |
| 07:23.38 | jeremym | I could also do remote gdb too |
| 07:29.08 | Marcel_M | jeremym: you can take a look at http://celtune.morb-design.com/ipk/armv4t/gdb_6.6-r3_armv4t.ipk |
| 07:30.45 | jeremym | Thanks. I found it in my build..... just too sleepy to search for myself I guess. This will have to wait til tommorow. |
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| 10:07.20 | gayo_ | hi!! |
| 10:07.34 | gayo_ | I managed to start openmoko in a mioA701 |
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| 10:07.45 | gayo_ | I managed to start openmoko in a mioA701 |
| 10:07.49 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 10:07.59 | SpeedEvil | does it work? |
| 10:08.03 | gayo_ | yes |
| 10:08.08 | gayo_ | but there is a problem |
| 10:08.11 | gayo_ | the touchscreen |
| 10:08.32 | gayo_ | when you toucj it the icon goes left down and does not move from there.. |
| 10:08.41 | gayo_ | but even rounf niddel button is working |
| 10:08.56 | gayo_ | roung middle button |
| 10:09.02 | gayo_ | round... sorry |
| 10:09.12 | SpeedEvil | what's the display resolution? |
| 10:09.57 | gayo_ | do not know.. |
| 10:10.00 | gayo_ | http://www.miousers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1644&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=165&sid=10c5b6ea1a824b2217490f5726342125 |
| 10:10.17 | gayo_ | some more info, I right now testing things.. |
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| 10:26.25 | zilux | gayo_: did you try the GPS as pedestrian with the original OS? |
| 10:27.10 | gayo_ | I tried miomap.. |
| 10:27.18 | gayo_ | but do not know gps.. |
| 10:27.32 | gayo_ | I do not know much abot that things.. |
| 10:27.45 | gayo_ | iriginal OS is windows mobile.. arrghhh |
| 10:28.08 | zilux | :) |
| 10:28.41 | zilux | this is not this model: http://www.cnet.com.au/mobilephones/pdaphones/0,239036206,339271803-5,00.htm |
| 10:35.02 | gayo_ | yes is that mio a701 |
| 10:35.19 | gayo_ | and miomap looks the same as in the picture |
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| 10:37.33 | gayo_ | http://prealable.org/~damz/a701/ |
| 10:37.47 | gayo_ | eabi-debian is not working well.. |
| 10:38.06 | gayo_ | openmoko is working much better but with no touch screen |
| 10:38.25 | gayo_ | but middle round bootin is working very wll |
| 10:38.37 | gayo_ | and this kernel is the best for mio right now: |
| 10:40.44 | gayo_ | mioa701_linux_12.21.2007.tar.bz2 |
| 10:41.16 | gayo_ | http://srv-bob.no-ip.org/MioA701/Ramdisk/ |
| 10:41.27 | gayo_ | here you can download for a while |
| 10:42.04 | gayo_ | bye bey and thanks |
| 10:42.41 | zilux | thanks for these info |
| 10:42.54 | gayo_ | good luck!! |
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| 10:54.09 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 11:48.28 | PBeck | hi |
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| 11:57.31 | CVirus | ehlo |
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| 12:46.25 | CoreDump | is openmoko-devel-image turning off PARALLEL_MAKE ? |
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| 12:47.31 | mickeyl | moin |
| 12:47.33 | mickeyl | don't think so |
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| 12:48.44 | CoreDump | moin mickeyl |
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| 13:26.01 | chacha_chaudhry | hi all |
| 13:26.47 | chacha_chaudhry | I was just updating with `ipkg update && ipkg upgrade` and it returned ipkg_download: ERROR: Command failed with return value 1! Any clue? |
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| 14:26.25 | aloril | stupid question: how do I change volume? |
| 14:32.22 | aloril | hmm.. alsamixer putting everything high makes it louder, but not that much |
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| 14:45.43 | yoyo | hi |
| 14:45.45 | aloril | amp right and amp left seems to what needs to be changed |
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| 14:47.54 | KrisAbsinthe | if you lower the amps and raise the actual input volume to one red you will get the desired sound quality, ends that nasty echo on the other end too |
| 14:49.53 | KrisAbsinthe | write down all the values after you get the right sound and edit gsmhandset.state to reflect the changes so it will be permanent |
| 14:51.05 | LarstiQ | KrisAbsinthe: what about alsactl store? |
| 14:51.28 | KrisAbsinthe | that works, i just like editing confs |
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| 14:54.11 | aloril | KrisAbsinthe: well, this was just for playback ;-) |
| 14:55.23 | KrisAbsinthe | Ah, ive just been asked so many times how to fix the echo lol |
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| 14:57.32 | KrisAbsinthe | Anyone try the new Qtopia snapshot |
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| 15:27.16 | borg_ | here are some photos of my neo-ready-golf2 http://homepages.upb.de/olaf/dinge/openmoko/ |
| 15:27.21 | borg_ | with the neo as radio replacement |
| 15:33.02 | bmidgley | borg_ why does it look like there's no power to neo |
| 15:33.19 | borg_ | because there is no power to the neo in this pictures ;) |
| 15:33.30 | borg_ | power supply will come soon ;) |
| 15:33.31 | bmidgley | you don't drive very far i guess |
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| 15:34.25 | bmidgley | are you able to use a usb/auto adapter with the fast-charge override in software |
| 15:34.42 | borg_ | of course, that works |
| 15:35.18 | bmidgley | hmm... in qtopia at least, the fast charge thing didn't seem to take |
| 15:35.23 | bmidgley | couldn't use the auto adapter |
| 15:35.39 | borg_ | really? |
| 15:35.44 | borg_ | it works for me, i tested it |
| 15:42.17 | KrisAbsinthe | some auto adapters have the TX RX crossed so that the Neo knows to charge the phone. without it the phone will not charge |
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| 15:52.58 | balrog-kun | borg_: do you drive with the windshiled covered with ice like this and only relying on the AGPS readings? :) |
| 15:53.36 | borg_ | balrog-kun: lol |
| 15:53.37 | borg_ | :) |
| 15:53.47 | borg_ | thats i good idea |
| 15:53.53 | borg_ | i hate it to remove the ice every morning |
| 15:54.31 | balrog-kun | yeah, imagine if everyone drove like this :) |
| 15:54.48 | balrog-kun | but their Neo's could communicate |
| 15:57.55 | sdubois92 | Does anyone know if a tracfone SIM will work on a Neo1973? |
| 15:58.25 | KrisAbsinthe | depends on the manufacturer |
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| 16:00.27 | balrog-kun | sdubois92: there may be an index of SIMs that are known to work on the wiki |
| 16:02.42 | sdubois92 | aparantly it wont work with a neo1973 |
| 16:02.59 | sdubois92 | but tracfone is a GSM provider so hopefully it will work in the future |
| 16:03.21 | balrog-kun | why do you think it won't? |
| 16:03.37 | KrisAbsinthe | no tracphone is a company, they use other providers as a back bone |
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| 16:54.15 | bmidgley | borg_: is that your car? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=51.704639+n+8.773190+e&ie=UTF8&ll=51.704639,8.77319&spn=0.000293,0.000574&t=h&z=21&om=1 |
| 16:54.37 | bmidgley | :) |
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| 16:55.14 | borg_ | bmidgley: let me see |
| 16:55.43 | borg_ | oh wow |
| 16:55.48 | borg_ | it really is the right parking slot |
| 16:55.51 | borg_ | astonishing |
| 16:56.30 | bmidgley | cool |
| 16:57.02 | bmidgley | I remember posting about a gpsd problem... the post included my coordinates and one of the guys helping me described my location :) |
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| 16:57.26 | borg_ | can someone help me with a wiki page? |
| 16:57.32 | borg_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_as_radio_replacement |
| 16:57.43 | borg_ | i want the text next to the images |
| 16:58.11 | zash | float: left? |
| 16:58.19 | borg_ | he makes the text under the image if there is a line break |
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| 17:00.23 | zash | borg_: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images |
| 17:02.04 | bmidgley | borg_ did you really need the external antenna |
| 17:03.37 | borg_ | if you want to have full gps coverage, even if you are driving in a street with big houses surrounding it, you definetily need an external antenna :\ |
| 17:03.51 | borg_ | zash: thx |
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| 17:09.05 | borg_ | mwester: i think this slot is as near as i can come to my home ;) |
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| 17:22.16 | nox-Hand | Oh, still March? |
| 17:22.22 | CVirus | too bad :-( |
| 17:22.25 | nox-Hand | Would have thought it'd be August by now |
| 17:22.36 | nox-Hand | Thats about how the delays have gone so far |
| 17:22.51 | hrw | morning |
| 17:23.01 | CVirus | morning |
| 17:23.07 | nox-Hand | evening |
| 17:23.08 | CVirus | hrw == harald welte ? |
| 17:23.12 | hrw | no |
| 17:23.18 | CVirus | ah ok |
| 17:23.22 | nox-Hand | hrw = hrw ? |
| 17:23.22 | hrw | LaF0rge is Haralt |
| 17:23.26 | CVirus | yeah right |
| 17:23.27 | hrw | nox-Hand: ;D |
| 17:25.54 | nox-Hand | Funny how quick conversation dies in here |
| 17:26.06 | nox-Hand | *administers CPR by using the vital ingredient* |
| 17:26.15 | nox-Hand | Lets talk about Android!" |
| 17:26.17 | nox-Hand | I think not.. |
| 17:28.32 | hrw | something new happened in openmoko world? |
| 17:30.41 | borg_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_as_radio_replacement |
| 17:30.44 | borg_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Car_phone_holder_for_neo1973 |
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| 17:30.52 | borg_ | so, wiki pages are ready ;) |
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| 17:34.25 | bmidgley | borg_ now it's totally ready for the software! |
| 17:35.05 | bmidgley | navit & some kind of media player |
| 17:35.46 | borg_ | ? |
| 17:36.01 | borg_ | navit and the media player are already on my neo, of course ;) |
| 17:36.09 | borg_ | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Neo_golf2_3.jpg |
| 17:37.36 | bmidgley | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 doesn't say anything about the GTA02 gps or gsm... we know the gps was changed at the very least |
| 17:41.10 | bmidgley | hmm I thought I saw the gps had been changed but now I can't find anything official to that effect |
| 17:41.15 | borg_ | bmidgley: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison |
| 17:41.23 | borg_ | there is a good comparison site |
| 17:43.12 | hrw | bmidgley: gps changed to one with plain serial interface |
| 17:43.17 | hrw | bmidgley: gsm the same |
| 17:45.37 | hrw | bye |
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| 17:59.28 | bmidgley | too bad... I thought we'd at least get edge |
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| 18:59.53 | KrisAbsinthe | YAY December 2nd build works |
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| 20:28.40 | xcasex | who's in charge of ze planet? |
| 20:29.50 | kinneh | I guess that's the head of the UN ? |
| 20:30.00 | kinneh | :-) sorry |
| 20:30.13 | balrog-kun | lol |
| 20:30.22 | xcasex | haha |
| 20:30.25 | summatusmentis | I hope to be at some point |
| 20:30.26 | xcasex | nah planet.openmoko :p |
| 20:31.07 | kinneh | why u want in ? |
| 20:32.14 | xcasex | talk about open upfront, yes :) |
| 20:32.39 | CoreDump | =) |
| 20:32.56 | kinneh | well there is nothing in the wiki |
| 20:33.22 | orospakr | MokoMakefile is still the best/easiest way to build images, right? |
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| 20:33.33 | kinneh | hang around til someone who knows ppl |
| 20:33.50 | xcasex | kinneh: someone who knows people should be calling me soon if he remembers too. |
| 20:34.00 | kinneh | hehe |
| 20:34.04 | xcasex | CM: not to mention anyone specific. |
| 20:34.08 | CoreDump | orospakr: the easiest in any case, yes |
| 20:34.35 | xcasex | orospakr: keep in mind that if you wanna try that, realise that you open a can of worms :) |
| 20:34.44 | kinneh | orospakr: well it curtenly takes a long time to comple, but it's only hard waiting :-/ |
| 20:34.54 | orospakr | I've used it before. |
| 20:35.07 | kinneh | xcasex: worms ? |
| 20:35.12 | orospakr | it's just been a while. |
| 20:35.25 | xcasex | kinneh: it's a metaphor. |
| 20:35.28 | kinneh | worm = bugs that crawls ? |
| 20:35.39 | xcasex | kinneh: i'm implying that its hard to make it work. |
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| 20:35.52 | kinneh | xcasex: ok |
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| 20:36.47 | kinneh | I set it up but had to break the build, now I'm setting it up on a machine more powerful |
| 20:37.00 | webjames | hello, whilst wh |
| 20:37.15 | kinneh | hi webjames |
| 20:37.30 | webjames | hello, whilst waiting for the neo, i'm thinking of getting a motorola ming a1200. has anyone already got one? |
| 20:37.35 | KrisAbsinthe | im getting " C compiler con not create executeables" any ideas is it my system or the build system? |
| 20:37.36 | xcasex | i have four machines running a clustered build setyp via distcc. |
| 20:37.38 | xcasex | *setup |
| 20:38.21 | xcasex | problem is, a) its at work b) monotone ports are blocked c) ssh got blocked recently d) did i mention its at work :( |
| 20:40.21 | CoreDump | yay for quadcore goodness ;) |
| 20:41.02 | xcasex | CoreDump: yay for two x3650's w. dual, quads. :p |
| 20:41.13 | CoreDump | xcasex: =D |
| 20:41.18 | xcasex | not to mention the "system i" machine under my desk :p |
| 20:41.28 | CoreDump | ever timed an OM build? |
| 20:41.43 | SpeedEvil | 36 hours herer |
| 20:42.34 | CoreDump | err, 110 minutes here |
| 20:43.07 | xcasex | CoreDump: as soon as i get there i will just because you asked :) |
| 20:43.48 | CoreDump | xcasex: don't forget it ;) I'm interested in the diff between quad and octa-core |
| 20:43.58 | xcasex | ach so :) |
| 20:44.13 | xcasex | nah i have a creeping suspicion you'll be around to remind me ;D |
| 20:44.30 | xcasex | i could set up distccd on the supercomputers as well :) |
| 20:44.42 | CoreDump | that would be cheating heh |
| 20:44.56 | xcasex | bah :( |
| 20:45.26 | xcasex | you realise i will be able to run a concurrent build job numbering a few hundred threads right? |
| 20:45.45 | KrisAbsinthe | ? |
| 20:46.13 | CoreDump | true, but that wouldn't be a real measurement of an octacore :\ |
| 20:46.15 | xcasex | KrisAbsinthe: buildfarm at work :) |
| 20:46.27 | xcasex | CoreDump: true... |
| 20:53.27 | Linux_Galore | 350,000 EEE PC's shipped http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/22/asus-exceeds-expectations-ships-350000-eee-pcs-in-one-quarter/ |
| 20:55.49 | xcasex | "there's no linux desktop users out there" argument just died. |
| 20:56.00 | SpeedEvil | No it diddn;t. |
| 20:56.15 | SpeedEvil | It got slightly deader. |
| 20:57.26 | LarstiQ | xcasex: obviously the eee-pc is not a desktop. |
| 20:57.44 | SpeedEvil | It could be a desktop replacement. |
| 20:58.18 | mjr | really not... |
| 20:58.25 | xcasex | LarstiQ: errr.. |
| 20:58.36 | xcasex | its a mobile client. |
| 20:59.19 | xcasex | and by desktop i wasnt implying "stationary pc" but rather "productive way to perform tasks in a modern way" |
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| 21:00.25 | kinneh | yada yada, It's a tremendous success for linux, call it whaterver you want, I want one, but I just got this opemmoko phone :-) |
| 21:03.29 | xcasex | kinneh: i have an order in for one :D |
| 21:03.34 | xcasex | it should arrive in a bout a week :p |
| 21:09.14 | Linux_Galore | last I looked over 60% of all PC's are now laptops |
| 21:09.55 | Linux_Galore | IIm a good example, I now have more laptops (5) than desktops (2) |
| 21:10.04 | xcasex | me as well |
| 21:10.15 | xcasex | all my stationary computers have been repurposed as servers |
| 21:10.19 | Linux_Galore | desktops to me are just box's to shove hardisks in |
| 21:10.28 | Stephmw | not enough grunt/$ for my tastes |
| 21:10.29 | xcasex | Linux_Galore: amen brother. |
| 21:10.35 | Stephmw | I like desktops |
| 21:10.47 | Stephmw | talking of which, I need something more beefy |
| 21:10.49 | Linux_Galore | laptops are work machines |
| 21:10.56 | SunX2 | I have a laptop, but I really can't imagine using it as my primary machine. |
| 21:11.01 | SunX2 | They're just too... unergonomic. |
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| 21:11.20 | Stephmw | SunX2: that's what docking solutions are for :) |
| 21:11.52 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: look at the new HP DV laptops, full sized keyboards, media centre built in (with remote) 17-20" LCD |
| 21:11.55 | SunX2 | Hm... screens are still too small. Unless you get a really large one, which makes it rather pointless :) |
| 21:12.22 | SunX2 | An awkward form factor for something you plan on watching from a distance, IMO. |
| 21:12.57 | Stephmw | SunX2: I'm ok with 17" screens, but for the price, I can get more mips from a desktop |
| 21:13.00 | SunX2 | I might start using it as my #1 machine as soon as they start offering dual screen laptops :) |
| 21:13.13 | SunX2 | Stephmw: that too. |
| 21:13.28 | Linux_Galore | Im on a laptop now with a dock (Toshiba) 22" LCD and a Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard everything it network based (NAS,PRINTER,SCANNER) |
| 21:13.43 | Linux_Galore | s/it/is/ |
| 21:14.00 | SunX2 | Heh |
| 21:14.12 | Linux_Galore | forgot apt is running |
| 21:14.15 | SunX2 | Do you ever move it around though? |
| 21:14.31 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: all the time, its a R500 |
| 21:14.39 | SunX2 | Also, that sounds like a hell of an investment |
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| 21:15.19 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: I use the4 same screen for years, swap the laptop 3 times |
| 21:15.46 | SunX2 | Oh, the laptop itself doesn't have the 22" LCD :) |
| 21:15.48 | SunX2 | I misread that. |
| 21:15.53 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: I usually wait for specials, the 22" LCD cost me US$230 |
| 21:15.55 | SunX2 | How do you position the laptop though? |
| 21:16.00 | SunX2 | Nice deal! |
| 21:16.20 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: site to the left of me on the desk |
| 21:16.24 | Linux_Galore | sits* |
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| 21:17.21 | Linux_Galore | my wife purchased the keyboard and mouse as a b'day present |
| 21:17.37 | SunX2 | So in the end, you did pay for it yourself ;) |
| 21:18.07 | Linux_Galore | I also have a Logitech 5.1 system setup to |
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| 21:18.48 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: she own her own company, my bet is she will be claiming it on her taxes as a company expense |
| 21:18.56 | SunX2 | I have a separate home theater setup, I can't imagine combining a desk with a couch :) |
| 21:19.08 | SunX2 | Ahh, smart. |
| 21:20.02 | SunX2 | :D |
| 21:20.09 | SunX2 | Would work for me, though. |
| 21:20.16 | SpeedEvil | A nice keyboard and mouse can be a good gift. |
| 21:20.18 | SunX2 | Most stuff I want falls into that category. |
| 21:20.21 | SpeedEvil | Or a nice chair. |
| 21:20.43 | Linux_Galore | yeah, well last year she got me an executive black leather chair |
| 21:21.02 | Linux_Galore | mmmm italian |
| 21:22.33 | Linux_Galore | SunX2: Yeah I have a NAS setup in the lounge that also doubles as a media centre |
| 21:22.51 | KrisAbsinthe | after om-config i just run make right/ |
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| 21:23.44 | Linux_Galore | your not a geek these days unless you have a NAS/Media centre in the lounge :-P |
| 21:24.18 | Linux_Galore | extra points if its a a rack |
| 21:25.21 | Linux_Galore | I tried to put a rack in the lounge, missus for some reason wouldnt go with it, had dreams of a UPS and built in 5" lcd and a few blade servers, sigh! |
| 21:25.57 | Linux_Galore | heh, yeah saw that one coming |
| 21:26.12 | SunX2 | Heh, competing racks... |
| 21:26.24 | SpeedEvil | The problem is getting them quiet. |
| 21:26.34 | SpeedEvil | I've got a half-completed case for a media PC. |
| 21:26.43 | SpeedEvil | 2*60cm porcelain tiles. |
| 21:26.58 | SpeedEvil | 12* 10*20cm glass tiles. |
| 21:27.20 | SpeedEvil | backlight the glass tiles and place them round the edge of the big tiles. |
| 21:27.33 | Linux_Galore | well the actual rack itself didnt bother her (IBM make some nice looking black racks) all the blinking lights put her off the idea |
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| 21:29.30 | Linux_Galore | I havent seen many really nice looking PC cases lately, most seem bland |
| 21:29.42 | Linux_Galore | or childish |
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| 21:30.06 | Linux_Galore | need to get some italians designing PC cases |
| 21:30.49 | Linux_Galore | then again they would have fans that make male grunting noises when the CPU is running fast |
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| 21:34.57 | Stephmw | Linux_Galore: sign me up |
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| 22:50.53 | CM | xcasex: På Grubbe nu, men tokjävla förkyld.. :( |
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| 23:01.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1145 has been created by dodji(AT)openedhand.com |
| 23:01.01 | cdbot2 | * * add hw assisted rotation support to xglamo via randr |
| 23:01.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1145 |
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| 23:05.06 | xcasex | CM: gör så, ring mig imorgon så tar vi en fika :) |
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| 23:07.22 | El_Salvador | OpenMoko will sell the Neo 1973 to general developers shortly after the device has being modified according to input by initial participating developers, before pushing the device to the mass-market through retail shops and telecom services providers, possibly by the second half of 2008, the sources indicated. |
| 23:07.26 | El_Salvador | :| |
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| 23:11.29 | mmp | El_Salvador: as far as I understand it, second half of 2008 is for mass market, developers should be able to get GTA02 sooner |
| 23:12.02 | mjr | the quote obviously refers mass market |
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| 23:14.16 | El_Salvador | bad news |
| 23:15.27 | hrw | El_Salvador: where from it is? |
| 23:16.07 | El_Salvador | http://www.digitimes.com/telecom/a20071116PD213.html |
| 23:17.18 | zerghase | Sorry, the page you are trying to open is available only for our paid subscribers. |
| 23:18.19 | El_Salvador | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo1973 |
| 23:18.24 | El_Salvador | sixth note |
| 23:18.31 | El_Salvador | (references) |
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| 23:21.24 | hrw | never trust external sources |
| 23:21.49 | El_Salvador | never trust any sources :P |
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| 23:24.52 | mmp | never trust that there even is something like 'trust' :P |
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| 23:33.58 | duffyd | hi, it appears that my ssh server isn't running on the OM, how do I start it? |
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| 23:44.41 | duffyd | it's strange I'm getting a permission denied when trying to access the OM, the interface is up :( |
| 23:45.54 | roh | -l root |
| 23:48.12 | duffyd | roh: :) yup I'm using that |
| 23:48.35 | duffyd | roh: I checked on the OM and it had a known_hosts file so I deleted that |
| 23:48.53 | duffyd | roh: strange thing is I successfully connected to it last time |
| 23:49.11 | duffyd | the address is up now in ifconfig |
| 23:49.43 | duffyd | just in case I added a passwd on the OM |
| 23:49.48 | duffyd | that doesn't work either :( |
| 23:50.31 | duffyd | I'm getting a Permission denied (publickey,password). |
| 23:50.57 | borg_ | you want to connect from your pc to your neo right? |
| 23:51.25 | borg_ | you use root as user and nothing as password? |
| 23:51.44 | duffyd | borg_: yeah I've used this combo in the past with no problem, just can't today |
| 23:51.53 | borg_ | mh |
| 23:52.02 | duffyd | I set the passwd on the OM in order to test with a password as I was getting the above message |
| 23:54.05 | duffyd | how would I remove the password now :) |
| 23:54.14 | duffyd | /etc/passwd :) |
| 23:55.23 | duffyd | appears that my routing table is a bit messed up: |
| 23:55.24 | duffyd | Kernel IP routing table |
| 23:55.24 | duffyd | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 23:55.24 | duffyd | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 23:55.24 | duffyd | 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 23:55.24 | duffyd | 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 |
| 23:55.26 | duffyd | 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
