| 00:02.30 | buzzinfly | i'm having difficulty getting the sim to recognise when i have the microSD inserted. it works fine without the sd card, sounds familiar to anyone? |
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| 00:37.38 | ljp | rwhitby: ping |
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| 00:44.23 | rwhitby | ljp: SYN|ACK |
| 00:44.43 | ljp | have you tried gllin? |
| 00:45.24 | rwhitby | been hectic at work, haven't got to that yet. |
| 00:45.54 | rwhitby | (i.e. I downloaded, installed, filled the flash doing so, haven't got around to reinstalling an new image cause of buildhost issues) |
| 00:46.47 | ljp | we cant seem to get a sat fix. even with an external antennae |
| 00:46.58 | SpeedEvil | ljp: clear sky? |
| 00:47.14 | ljp | ermm.. i would hope clouds dont interfere |
| 00:47.16 | SpeedEvil | or ratehr - what sky conditions |
| 00:47.26 | SpeedEvil | no - however,being inside buildings do |
| 00:47.49 | SpeedEvil | you get NMEA output? |
| 00:47.56 | ljp | yes, theres output |
| 00:48.15 | ljp | next to a window |
| 00:48.25 | SpeedEvil | you've tried it outside? |
| 00:48.27 | ljp | even tried going outside |
| 00:48.32 | SpeedEvil | windows can have anti-GPS coating |
| 00:48.35 | SpeedEvil | oh well |
| 00:48.39 | SpeedEvil | how long outside? |
| 00:48.52 | SpeedEvil | it needs to be a few mins before it'll always get a lock |
| 00:49.01 | rwhitby | ljp: I was able to get fixes on both bv3 and bv4 with the previous unofficial gllin. I even got my n800 to talk to it and display on maemo mapper |
| 00:49.06 | SpeedEvil | I'd have to check to see what few is - I'd expec under a couple |
| 00:49.40 | rwhitby | maybe the us has turned off the sats over australia due to the change of government ;-) |
| 00:49.51 | ljp | ha.. likely |
| 00:50.08 | SpeedEvil | local jamming? |
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| 00:50.15 | SpeedEvil | GPS jammers are available |
| 00:51.02 | ljp | doubtful we are in a tech park with hema maps :) |
| 00:51.15 | SpeedEvil | there have been reports of poorly installed GPS antenna cables |
| 00:51.17 | ljp | or whatever they are called |
| 00:51.31 | mwester-road | The thing takes a small eternity to get a fix if it doesn't know where it is; I had to leave it on a table outside my window for a lot longer than a few minutes to get the first fix. |
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| 00:51.42 | SpeedEvil | I'd open it up and check the routing of the grey cable from the GPS antenna to the mainboard |
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| 01:12.16 | nelson | It can take a long time to get a sync. I've had my garmin give up and ask me "Did you forget to go outside?? Fool!" |
| 01:12.33 | ewon | heh |
| 01:15.14 | ljp | well. it might be a bit difficult to develop an app if I have to be outside |
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| 01:35.05 | SpeedEvil | does anyone have any suggestions for a featurephone that can do similar things to the neo (from the network side) that I can enter into my provider to see what it does? |
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| 01:42.02 | ewon | SpeedEvil: ENOPARSE |
| 01:44.15 | SpeedEvil | I dunno. my 'my account' website has ways to send configuration info to the phone. |
| 01:44.23 | SpeedEvil | from t-mobile |
| 01:44.46 | SpeedEvil | oh well - the site went down |
| 01:45.40 | ewon | ah, right |
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| 01:49.49 | mmontour | My build is broken at matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod, with a failure to apply fic-gta01-font-size.patch :( |
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| 01:53.09 | linuxxr | http://www.buglabs.net/products |
| 01:54.00 | linuxxr | speedevil |
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| 02:14.57 | rwhitby | monotone.openmoko.org down again? |
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| 02:55.53 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03erin_yueh * r3647 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gsmd: move PIN name to both gsmd and libgsmd (Erin Yueh) |
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| 03:02.24 | bkruse_home | where is the "getting started/building your dev envirnment" for openmoko? |
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| 03:11.19 | Aria | All over the wiki. |
| 03:13.52 | bkruse_home | Aria: I am a moron |
| 03:13.53 | bkruse_home | thanks :] |
| 03:14.02 | Aria | Sure. |
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| 03:37.16 | bkruse_home | hey guys, I got an error monotone: error: database schema 629da44000ed5d20e2fe6b4d3abc06bc06a91362 is unknown; cannot perform migration from the mokomakefile, any ideas/ |
| 03:42.41 | Aria | You've got a newer monotone. There's a command somewhere on the wiki explaining how to migrate the db to the new format |
| 03:42.54 | Aria | Something along the line of mtn migrate, with something specifying the DB |
| 03:42.57 | Aria | Been a while since I did it. |
| 03:44.46 | bkruse_home | will check it out, thanks |
| 03:47.56 | rwhitby | bkruse: what version of monotone? |
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| 03:49.29 | rwhitby | you might want to get the snapshot which matches your version of monotone |
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| 03:50.20 | bkruse_home | rwhitby: 0.24 |
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| 07:10.18 | CM | jouston: Nice logo in the grass ;) |
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| 07:10.40 | CM | jouston: But why not a full rss feed from your blog? |
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| 07:24.10 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 07:27.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1128 has been created by cm(AT)acc.umu.se |
| 07:27.02 | cdbot2 | * * matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod fails on fic-gta01-font-size.patch |
| 07:27.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1128 |
| 07:28.13 | mickey|ICE972 | morning |
| 07:28.22 | CM | Morning :) |
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| 08:05.33 | blindcoder | moin |
| 08:07.29 | mickey|ICE972 | moin |
| 08:09.38 | borg_ | moin :) |
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| 08:23.20 | CVirus | mickey|ICE972: what do you do as a sport may I ask ? |
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| 08:28.20 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03laforge * r3648 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-gta02.patch: Use correct Smedia Glamo 3362 timings (Chia-I Wu) (Closes: #1017) |
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| 08:30.17 | mickey|ICE972 | CVirus: mainly tabletennis (league), squash (hobby). in summer additionally frisbee etc. |
| 08:30.53 | CVirus | mickey|ICE972: so you're not the typical smoking-beer-belly geek ? |
| 08:31.09 | CVirus | :-)\ |
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| 08:32.00 | mickey|ICE972 | not really, no. living relatively healthy. got about 15 kilos too much but this will change soon |
| 08:32.21 | mickey|ICE972 | no smoking, only some beers @ fosdem ;) |
| 08:33.06 | mickey|ICE972 | too much coffee though |
| 08:33.12 | mickey|ICE972 | and probably not enough sleep |
| 08:33.16 | mickey|ICE972 | but hey, can't get everything :) |
| 08:34.34 | CVirus | hehe |
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| 08:34.57 | CM | mickey|ICE972: How much coffee is too much? I need a reference.. ;) |
| 08:35.35 | CM | Average per person and day in sweden is 5.5 cups, only finland is worse with 6.5 cups per person/day... |
| 08:35.40 | mickey|ICE972 | 5 cups per day of caffeine is too much |
| 08:36.29 | mickey|ICE972 | caffeine_d_ |
| 08:36.29 | mickey|ICE972 | trying to limit myself to 2 and the rest decaf then |
| 08:36.56 | mickey|ICE972 | whew |
| 08:36.56 | mickey|ICE972 | 5.5 cups average? |
| 08:36.57 | mickey|ICE972 | that's not healthy |
| 08:37.07 | CM | I haven't noticed any problems.. |
| 08:37.37 | borg_ | what is a cup for you? |
| 08:37.39 | CM | Usually here, coffee at 8, 10, 12, 15, for the breaks at work |
| 08:38.02 | CM | Then maybe one around 17, and one after dinner :D |
| 08:38.02 | borg_ | one of this big things, or just this small 200ml cups? |
| 08:38.33 | mickey|ICE972 | big things of course |
| 08:38.33 | mickey|ICE972 | :D |
| 08:38.34 | mickey|ICE972 | probably 350ml |
| 08:38.38 | borg_ | ok |
| 08:38.38 | CM | Hehe |
| 08:38.46 | CoreDump | =) |
| 08:38.52 | borg_ | i would guess i drink 5-7 of this per day |
| 08:39.17 | CM | My friend tried to get her dad to drink less, and he promised only 2 cups per day.. |
| 08:39.34 | CM | And went and bought a 0.75 litre insulated mug :) |
| 08:39.41 | CoreDump | =D |
| 08:39.44 | mickey|ICE972 | hahaha |
| 08:39.45 | mickey|ICE972 | cheating |
| 08:39.46 | borg_ | :) |
| 08:39.56 | CVirus | LOL |
| 08:40.19 | borg_ | i get free coffee at work, that makes me drink lots of coffee there :P |
| 08:40.55 | mickey|ICE972 | ya, that's dangeours |
| 08:40.55 | mickey|ICE972 | used to work in kindergarten for 2 years |
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| 08:41.05 | CVirus | what could be a good stimulant other that caffeine and nicotine ? |
| 08:41.06 | mickey|ICE972 | man, that was tough |
| 08:41.08 | mickey|ICE972 | they brewed new coffee every 30 minutes |
| 08:41.12 | mickey|ICE972 | CVirus: girls? |
| 08:41.24 | CVirus | mickey|ICE972: can't get that ... more suggestions ? |
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| 08:41.38 | mickey|ICE972 | CVirus: code? |
| 08:41.39 | mickey|ICE972 | gadgetsß |
| 08:41.39 | mickey|ICE972 | ? |
| 08:41.39 | mickey|ICE972 | :D |
| 08:41.47 | CVirus | LOL |
| 08:41.56 | mickey|ICE972 | girls, code, gadgets, music, sports |
| 08:42.22 | SpeedEvil | fear of impending violent death. |
| 08:42.48 | mickey|ICE972 | that's about my portfolio |
| 08:43.31 | emdete | i still have a question regarding charging. is this controlled from a daemon inside linux somehow? i run out of battery with connected usb when i connect after booting. it seems that charging is started by u-boot fine but not in linux... |
| 08:43.32 | ewon | I drink around big cups a day |
| 08:43.35 | ewon | stupid free coffee |
| 08:43.41 | ewon | in the last place I had to pay for it |
| 08:43.45 | ewon | didn't drink that much |
| 08:43.47 | CM | ewon: Just drink around it? |
| 08:43.57 | mickey|ICE972 | heh |
| 08:43.57 | mickey|ICE972 | right |
| 08:44.06 | ewon | s/around/around 5/ |
| 08:44.16 | mickey|ICE972 | emdete: what does the respective sysfs nodes show? |
| 08:44.35 | emdete | mickey|ICE972: batvolt is decreasing. |
| 08:44.46 | mickey|ICE972 | chg_mode ? |
| 08:44.57 | emdete | mickey|ICE972: charge current is 17000 (17A?) |
| 08:45.08 | SpeedEvil | is the device plugged into a port that can supply 500mA - not an unpowered hub |
| 08:45.10 | mickey|ICE972 | sounds like a bug, check chg_mode |
| 08:45.36 | mickey|ICE972 | try reconnecting usb as well. sometimes it loses usb connection here |
| 08:45.48 | emdete | mode (sry, neo if off because lack of power) was three word, first and last was NULL or something middle don't remember exactly |
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| 08:46.12 | mickey|ICE972 | hmm, should be fast_cccv |
| 08:46.27 | emdete | mickey|ICE972: the whole usb thing is strange to me anyway: if i connect it to a (switched off) neo, the neo sometimes boots, sometimes not |
| 08:46.32 | SpeedEvil | what was the neo plugged into? |
| 08:46.45 | emdete | SpeedEvil: notebook directly |
| 08:46.51 | mickey|ICE972 | bbiab, arriving shiortly |
| 08:47.11 | emdete | other people also reported a neo switching off due to power with connected usb |
| 08:47.24 | emdete | mickeyl: bs? |
| 08:48.39 | emdete | is there a way to switch on/off charing inside linux? |
| 08:52.18 | emdete | or is that controlled automatically and inside linux i only can poll the state? |
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| 09:10.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1129 has been created by john_lee(AT)openmoko.com |
| 09:10.01 | cdbot2 | * * provide original source and OM diff packages |
| 09:10.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1129 |
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| 09:12.33 | CM | Nice article at Phoronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=940 |
| 09:12.35 | CM | Second sentence in the second chapter: Among the interesting events to have occurred this year for Linux hardware adoption was the shipping of OpenMoko, a "true Linux phone"... |
| 09:12.38 | CM | And later: However, looking forward to 2008, we believe that Linux on low-cost PCs and mobile devices will gain much traction... |
| 09:14.43 | zash | like the Eee |
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| 09:15.27 | CM | Yep, maybe I'll get an Eee2 or what ever the next revision will be called |
| 09:15.29 | dbmood1 | go the eee |
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| 09:16.57 | xcasex | CM: i might have my eee when we meet :p |
| 09:17.10 | CM | Ah, nice :) |
| 09:17.14 | xcasex | until then i have to settle with my 17" mbp :/ |
| 09:17.27 | CM | Hehe, släpbar.. |
| 09:17.35 | xcasex | men typ. |
| 09:17.39 | dbmood1 | 17... |
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| 09:37.44 | codyl | Who is working dfu-util? |
| 09:37.59 | codyl | uploading of firmware seems to be broken |
| 09:39.13 | xcasex | CM: ping |
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| 09:50.32 | CM | xcasex: Pong |
| 09:51.28 | xcasex | CM: msg |
| 09:51.33 | codyl | strange, bluez's dfutool works |
| 09:51.39 | codyl | openmoko's doesnt... |
| 09:51.46 | codyl | gotta love standards ;-) |
| 09:52.07 | daMaestro | just checkout svn and build on your own? |
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| 09:52.46 | codyl | daMaestro, that *code* doesnt work, I'm not lazy |
| 09:53.02 | codyl | they have the upload code wrong somewhere |
| 09:53.22 | codyl | but it worked with another bluez's dfutool (from cvs head) |
| 09:54.07 | xcasex | er.... i'm using the dfutil from svn ... |
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| 09:55.04 | codyl | xcasex, openmoko's ? |
| 09:55.09 | xcasex | yeah |
| 09:55.31 | codyl | xcasex, upload works? |
| 09:56.08 | xcasex | just fine over here. |
| 09:56.17 | xcasex | doing it right now as a matter of fact. |
| 09:56.22 | codyl | xcasex, *weird*...well whatever, I just switched to another tool |
| 09:56.32 | codyl | xcasex, wait, is this just with the neo? |
| 09:56.32 | xcasex | :) |
| 09:56.39 | codyl | (I'm using another DFU device) |
| 09:56.42 | xcasex | just using it to flash a neo :) |
| 09:56.43 | xcasex | aha. |
| 09:56.46 | xcasex | That might be it. |
| 09:56.46 | codyl | not flash |
| 09:56.55 | codyl | DEVICE --> COMPUTER |
| 09:57.03 | codyl | not COMPUTER --> DEVICE |
| 09:57.05 | codyl | upload |
| 09:57.28 | xcasex | ah. |
| 09:57.29 | codyl | (probably not a common feature) |
| 09:58.20 | CM | codyl: Should be though, everyone should at least back up their u-boot_env |
| 09:59.04 | codyl | CM, well..something isn't right. My guess is that uboot on the neo does something non-standard, and it just hasnt been caught |
| 10:06.50 | zilux | hi all |
| 10:07.02 | zilux | question about openmoko-mediaplayer: |
| 10:07.10 | zilux | do you know how to add |
| 10:07.20 | zilux | an icon to a track? |
| 10:07.39 | CM | zilux: You mean cover album? |
| 10:07.48 | zilux | right! |
| 10:08.07 | CM | zilux: That's a work in progress still I'm afraid, abraxa__ have been really busy with his university studies |
| 10:08.17 | CM | so it's just a place holder icon still |
| 10:08.32 | zilux | no issue, this is for a demo |
| 10:08.40 | CM | You can manually change it if you want then, like I did |
| 10:08.45 | zilux | ok |
| 10:08.58 | CM | Now,if I can only remember where.. Wait a sec |
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| 10:10.08 | CM | zilux: It's a png, somewhere in the gtk theme for the mediaplayer |
| 10:10.20 | CM | zilux: Don't have my neo around, so I can't just look |
| 10:10.30 | zilux | ok I will find it thanks! |
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| 10:27.32 | cheezoo | CM: ping |
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| 10:28.28 | neutrino | When should We expect mass market phone ? |
| 10:28.30 | neutrino | Someone says first half in December!? Someone says later then march? What will it be!? |
| 10:28.55 | borg_ | neutrino: nobody knows for sure |
| 10:30.04 | borg_ | but "mass maket" as in usable for normal people is not possible in december. the software definetily isn't mass-market-ready yet |
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| 10:32.01 | CM | cheezoo: Hey there :) |
| 10:32.27 | neutrino | ok, We shell wait for some official information! |
| 10:32.29 | neutrino | I've ask this because I intend to buy one . Mass market phone is my target but if I should wait until march, maybe I will decide to buy development edition . |
| 10:32.30 | neutrino | So, every information on this will be plus! |
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| 10:32.52 | cheezoo | CM: heya :) , in case i want to build some apps and then run on the emulator |
| 10:33.13 | cheezoo | CM: i need to do a make qemu-local ? |
| 10:33.17 | CM | neutrino: The problem right now is that OpenMoko don't know themselves yet when everything will be ready |
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| 10:33.30 | viq | neutrino: they hit some problems with the planned mass market version, so the current estimation of availability is March. |
| 10:33.37 | CM | cheezoo: Yes, or just build a openmoko-devel-image |
| 10:33.44 | viq | But it's just that, estimation. |
| 10:33.55 | viq | "It'll be ready when it'll be ready." |
| 10:34.16 | cheezoo | CM: ok , thanks |
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| 10:56.01 | ScaredyCat | *blink* |
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| 10:57.27 | CM | ScaredyCat: Busy lately? How's it going with that move? |
| 10:57.57 | CM | Not a decent build on your buildhost for almost a week now.. :P |
| 10:58.17 | ScaredyCat | wtf! |
| 10:58.19 | ScaredyCat | biatch! |
| 10:58.23 | CM | Hehe |
| 10:59.07 | ScaredyCat | will upload another soon.. have been really busy @ work and with christmas shopping.... :/ |
| 10:59.53 | ScaredyCat | hrrmmm |
| 10:59.54 | ScaredyCat | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0270/4944) [ 5 %]http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/openmoko-stylus-demo-simple: (Not a valid URL) |
| 11:00.22 | CM | Huh? Try again, I just got an image built, but the feed is failing on epdf |
| 11:01.05 | ScaredyCat | no, someone left off the .2 from the OM-2007 |
| 11:01.15 | ScaredyCat | and must have updated the .bb files |
| 11:01.45 | ScaredyCat | ~lart XorA|gone |
| 11:01.45 | apt | makes a balloon animal out of XorA|gone |
| 11:02.10 | ScaredyCat | yes epdf generates errors here too |
| 11:02.30 | CM | ScaredyCat: I've fixed the configure.in patch error, but it still fails later on |
| 11:03.00 | CM | !oebug 3467 |
| 11:03.02 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 3467, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-12-13 02:48 |
| 11:03.03 | cdbot2 | * * cm(AT)acc.umu.se: epdf_cvs.bb, fails to compile even with updated patch |
| 11:03.04 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3467 |
| 11:03.52 | Mononoke | heheh openmokologo live |
| 11:07.37 | ScaredyCat | it looks pretty broken CM |
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| 11:13.10 | atul | CM, http://pastebin.ca/814517 have a look on to this problem |
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| 11:16.52 | Xx13 | mokomake breaks on unzip-native_552.bb, could it be trying to install this package for the host systemwide? |
| 11:18.16 | SpeedEvil | I'm trying to build the kernel natively. |
| 11:18.30 | SpeedEvil | I've gotten it to a state where menuconfig works fine |
| 11:18.55 | SpeedEvil | then a couple of files in, I get 'scripts/mod/sumversion.c: In function 'md4_update': |
| 11:18.56 | SpeedEvil | scripts/mod/sumversion.c:75: error: invalid 'asm': invalid operand for code 'w' |
| 11:19.07 | SpeedEvil | any thoughts? |
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| 11:49.16 | CM | atul: Is that from a clean build? |
| 11:49.41 | CM | Looks like you've only compiled 127 steps, so maybe just easier to "make clobber" and try from scratch again. |
| 11:49.57 | atul | CM, ok |
| 11:50.13 | atul | CM< make clobber clean the build |
| 11:50.37 | CM | Yes, it removes your build, but keeps all settings and souce files |
| 11:50.38 | atul | CM, but i already install new build |
| 11:50.42 | atul | ok |
| 11:51.16 | CM | Hmm.. Maybe disable ccache? |
| 11:52.01 | atul | CM, how much time it will took same like 10-11 hrs |
| 11:52.29 | CM | What are you building? make openmoko-devel-image? |
| 11:53.04 | atul | CM, yes on this step it will fails |
| 11:53.27 | CM | I haven't seen it for anyone else, so I suspect your ccache is bad |
| 11:53.53 | atul | CM, May be that is the only problem |
| 11:54.14 | CM | Try, hopefully that's it :) |
| 11:54.18 | atul | CM, On other machine my build is fine but on this machine i face same problme |
| 11:54.46 | atul | CM, How to clear the cache dont mind am very new to linux so. |
| 11:55.29 | CM | Not sure either, I don't have it on in gentoo (too much broke with it) |
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| 11:58.22 | NineX | someone can provide me u-boot images that works with boot form ram via debugboard? |
| 11:58.22 | xcasex | hey CM, the latest uImage from Scaredycat gives me no love when its on the sd, it gives me a kernel panic about no rootfs, although its a ext2 fs on the card :S |
| 11:58.36 | NineX | for gra01bv4 ? |
| 11:58.57 | xcasex | yeah |
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| 12:03.45 | CM | xcasex: Have you set the boot parameters? |
| 12:04.07 | CM | xcasex: Ask ScaredyCat or torpor about how they did |
| 12:04.15 | xcasex | CM: will do ty :D |
| 12:04.20 | xcasex | ScaredyCat: get in 'ere sir! |
| 12:04.23 | xcasex | you too torpor |
| 12:04.24 | Xx13 | CM: no good news for building on gentoo? |
| 12:04.33 | xcasex | [ |
| 12:04.35 | xcasex | what. |
| 12:04.37 | xcasex | the hell |
| 12:04.41 | xcasex | gentoo, for the moko? |
| 12:04.46 | CM | Hehe |
| 12:04.55 | CM | No, building "on" gentoo |
| 12:05.19 | xcasex | ah. |
| 12:05.32 | xcasex | that would be a good reason to use gentoo again. wonder if my ebuilds are still in there :D |
| 12:05.33 | CM | Xx13: Building on gentoo works just fine, I've been doing it for more than half a year without much trouble |
| 12:05.56 | CM | xcasex: What are you using now then? Ubuntu? :P |
| 12:06.02 | Xx13 | ah, ok, then it must be me ;] |
| 12:06.11 | CM | Xx13: What's the problem? |
| 12:06.13 | xcasex | CM: careful there sonnyjim, 'been using linux since SLS :p |
| 12:06.23 | xcasex | and yes, i went from debian to ubuntu :ö |
| 12:06.24 | xcasex | :o |
| 12:06.46 | Xx13 | CM: | mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/athena/man': Permission denied |
| 12:06.46 | Xx13 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.09 | ScaredyCat | moo |
| 12:07.13 | CM | Ah, remember that now |
| 12:07.27 | CM | But I don't know what's the problem with it, compiles just fine here |
| 12:07.28 | xcasex | ScaredyCat: trying to set up booting from a 2gb microsd, how did'ya do it? |
| 12:08.08 | Xx13 | could it by trying to install to system root? then surely it won't get permission since i'm doing it as user |
| 12:08.41 | CM | Xx13: I'm running as user too, and you definitely should. Never build oe as root :) |
| 12:08.49 | ScaredyCat | use the uboot in http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/ |
| 12:09.10 | CM | ScaredyCat: He is |
| 12:09.15 | xcasex | ScaredyCat: the problem i'm getting at after following the booting from sd wiki, is that the kernel panics upon finding no rootfs and quoting that it has support for three fs's ext3. jffs and someother. |
| 12:09.21 | xcasex | what CM said |
| 12:09.25 | Xx13 | CM: i could have gotten mixed up in gcc versions... |
| 12:10.03 | ScaredyCat | ah yes, smae issue... it doesn;t think that ext2 and 3 are basically the same, except for the journalling |
| 12:10.08 | CM | Xx13: Hmm.. Could be something like that. I'm building everything with gcc-4.2.2, but have 3.4.6 installed |
| 12:10.27 | Xx13 | it all works with 4.2? |
| 12:11.14 | Xx13 | i've read on some forum that it doesn't like 4.x so i went back to 3.4.4 which happened to be installed |
| 12:11.46 | CM | Ah, ok. It's just qemu that had problems with 4.x |
| 12:12.19 | CM | The latest versions of qemu should compile with 4.x though, but I havent tried |
| 12:12.32 | CM | Not sure if the qemu in oe is that updated either |
| 12:12.33 | xcasex | ScaredyCat: so i should do... |
| 12:12.47 | xcasex | a ext3 fs and force it? :S |
| 12:12.59 | xcasex | its just a tune2fs away |
| 12:13.04 | Xx13 | 4.2.2 appears to be masked |
| 12:13.05 | ScaredyCat | either use ext3 or add ext2 support to kernel |
| 12:13.07 | ScaredyCat | but |
| 12:13.34 | ScaredyCat | ext3 might wear out your card with it's journalling over time |
| 12:14.20 | xcasex | notail and noatime can sort that out :D |
| 12:21.24 | CM | Xx13: Heh, I'm running ~amd46 and building openmoko bleeding-edge with unlocked srcrevs, so I assumed I would be the one hitting all new bugs ;) |
| 12:21.47 | CM | Guess not.. Are you on x86? |
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| 12:22.23 | Xx13 | amd64 from intel ;] |
| 12:23.17 | Mononoke | you need one of first amd64 archs to hit all stupid bugs |
| 12:24.11 | CM | Mononoke: I have an old Athlon 3000+ |
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| 12:35.18 | xcasex | ScaredyCat: yeah, i guess i should edit the fstab as well eh? ;D |
| 12:35.39 | xcasex | CM: we can do something about that later. |
| 12:35.39 | Xx13 | that's what i have at home Athlon XP 3200, office is a little better D805 |
| 12:35.53 | xcasex | model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ |
| 12:35.56 | xcasex | <3 |
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| 12:36.06 | xcasex | that's what's in my buildserver :/ |
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| 12:37.59 | Xx13 | and how long does it take to build an image? |
| 12:38.32 | xcasex | i wouldnt know, monotone treats me like her bitch :/ |
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| 12:39.29 | mwester-road | Only if you let it. |
| 12:39.54 | xcasex | mwester-road: its not my fault that wench works on ports locked down by the great firewall of $corporation |
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| 12:40.19 | mwester-road | Ah, so the problem is the feinds who run your network, then. |
| 12:40.33 | xcasex | which is me and johan. and johan is refusing me :/ |
| 12:40.51 | mwester-road | What - is johan bigger than you? |
| 12:41.27 | xcasex | yes. and i'm a big guy :( |
| 12:41.38 | xcasex | and i'd need to explain myself to management if i did. |
| 12:42.01 | mwester-road | Oh. Well, that's too bad. You'll need to resort to other solutions then. Can you set up an SSH tunnel? |
| 12:42.06 | xcasex | mwester-road: when i get home i'll bring up the slug again and run a ssh proxy on it :) |
| 12:42.09 | xcasex | right. |
| 12:42.40 | mwester-road | You have a slug? Cool. Neatest little computer for under USD 100 I've ever seen. |
| 12:43.30 | NineX | damn a inned u-boot files that works with boot from ram |
| 12:44.04 | xcasex | mwester-road: i ahve one, had three, getting two more again :D |
| 12:44.25 | xcasex | i use my slug with pulseaudio and a usb soundcard :p |
| 12:44.32 | xcasex | its sex. |
| 12:44.49 | mwester-road | No, not quite that good. |
| 12:45.04 | xcasex | havent had anything bothersome happen soundwise yet |
| 12:45.29 | mwester-road | Angstrom, SlugOS, Debian, or Unslung? |
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| 12:45.44 | xcasex | slugos |
| 12:45.49 | xcasex | thinking about going angstrom |
| 12:45.51 | xcasex | or mokoslug |
| 12:46.10 | SpeedEvil | Any thoughts why I may get scripts/mod/sumversion.c:75: error: invalid 'asm': invalid operand for code 'w' |
| 12:46.25 | SpeedEvil | when I try to compile the kernel on native gcc |
| 12:46.29 | SpeedEvil | (a coupe of files in) |
| 12:46.29 | Mononoke | I wonder if it would be possible to turn moko into guitar disortion effect. you can plug in audio input ? you have audio output? you have cpu ? ^.^ |
| 12:46.30 | xcasex | abraxa__: ping me whne you have time |
| 12:46.31 | mwester-road | Not much work on Mokoslug lately; Angstrom has had work but is incomplete, I prefer SlugOS -- lots of work recently there. |
| 12:46.40 | SpeedEvil | Mononoke: sure |
| 12:46.58 | xcasex | mwester-road: slugos broke my slug today :) |
| 12:47.14 | SpeedEvil | Mononoke: however, there is no microphone input |
| 12:47.26 | SpeedEvil | Mononoke: you can use USB soundcard to do stuff. |
| 12:48.47 | Mononoke | did anyone try plugging usb soundcard into moko ? ^.^ |
| 12:49.41 | SpeedEvil | I don't think the kernel is actually supporting it yet |
| 12:49.57 | MarcOChapeau | Mononoke: you need a powered USB port for that |
| 12:49.58 | rwhitby | MokoSlug is just Angstrom minimal image anyway |
| 12:50.08 | SpeedEvil | You don't _need_ it - it's nice. |
| 12:50.23 | SpeedEvil | You need an external power source. |
| 12:50.39 | MarcOChapeau | well, yeah, this works also. depends on the sound card |
| 12:50.56 | xcasex | rwhitby: alright |
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| 13:55.06 | darx | hi folks. When can a final release be expected? :-) |
| 13:55.10 | darx | just curious |
| 13:55.55 | CM | Not so soon.. :-/ |
| 13:56.16 | CM | darx: take a look at the topic and read the link (/topic) |
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| 13:58.14 | darx | CM: ok thanks. i'm still holding on to my ageing nokia. But the more the wait, the sweeter the returns. ;-) |
| 13:58.38 | CM | And the better the software will be when the hw is available :D |
| 14:00.39 | darx | agreed 100%. Although I can find my way around the console, I'd rather be safe than sorry. |
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| 14:19.33 | xcasex | CM: i'm putting together a laptop for a client, asus u1e w. ssd hdd and 4gb of ram |
| 14:19.41 | xcasex | CM: i think i should keep it for myself |
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| 14:28.30 | abraxa_ | xcasex: What's up? |
| 14:30.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1130 has been created by mikaela_vitalariu(AT)yahoo.com |
| 14:30.02 | cdbot2 | * * the stat() system call hangs when the argument is a remote folder |
| 14:30.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1130 |
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| 14:51.25 | xcasex | abraxa_: i heard you had e17 running on your moko, have you oackaged it up or is it natively compiled? |
| 14:55.37 | abraxa_ | xcasex: Actually I don't, though it's in OE as e-wm and can be easily installed |
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| 14:56.03 | CM | xcasex: Ohh.. Nice! Make one for me too |
| 14:56.18 | CM | I'll trade you abraxa_'s debug board for it.. ;) |
| 14:56.23 | abraxa_ | lol |
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| 15:04.11 | NineX | how to acces serial console via debugboard? |
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| 15:04.22 | NineX | i trye to unbick my neo |
| 15:06.36 | xcasex | abraxa_: oh err.... oe? feed? |
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| 15:10.33 | mohamed | hi all |
| 15:10.54 | mohamed | why make setup don't work |
| 15:10.56 | mohamed | ? |
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| 15:11.15 | mohamed | connection refused error arises |
| 15:11.27 | thomasg_ | xcasex: you can build e17 directly from the openembedded repository |
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| 15:12.24 | mohamed | I'm using mokomake file, but what is e17? |
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| 15:14.47 | xcasex | thomasg_: that's the thing, i could as well just use my desktop e17 shellscript to build it from cvs :ö |
| 15:14.50 | xcasex | :p |
| 15:16.15 | mohamed | I'm sorry I couldn't got the drift of what you are trying to say, any way I've tried make update-bleeding-edge and it worked |
| 15:16.53 | mohamed | I just wanna know why make setup doesn't work, I used to use it to setup the environment |
| 15:17.17 | thomasg_ | xcasex: easy_e17? :) |
| 15:17.31 | thomasg_ | xcasex: but no, of course that doesn't work this way, because you need crosscompiling |
| 15:17.41 | xcasex | ;_; |
| 15:17.45 | CM | NineX: I tried all evening yesterday too, no success... |
| 15:18.07 | CM | NineX: Only managed to get openocd to contact the debugboard once, but then I didn't know what to do |
| 15:18.17 | CM | Never got any contact with uboot |
| 15:18.19 | thomasg_ | so I'd recommend you tu use openembedded or look for a repository with precompiled ipkg-packages for the neo |
| 15:18.29 | xcasex | the important thing is that my moko now boots from sd. |
| 15:18.35 | xcasex | everything else is secondary atm |
| 15:19.07 | CM | xcasex: Take a look at the bottom of the Repositories page in the wiki |
| 15:19.39 | xcasex | the important thing is that my moko now boots from sd. |
| 15:19.53 | xcasex | CM: oh oh oh didnt notice that at first! |
| 15:19.54 | Field | CM: hm .. this sounds not too good .. =) .. a few minutes i thought about chancing my partition tyble to get my okl4 working .. but now I'm somehow confused - maybe I also get some problemns to get the debug-board to work ;) |
| 15:21.07 | CM | Field: First I had to recompile my kernel with that ftdi_ios module or what it was called, but it's still damn hard to figure out what to do to fix anything |
| 15:21.48 | CM | The wiki just says to use cu against /dev/ttyUSB0 or 1, but neither of those worked for me.. :( |
| 15:21.59 | xcasex | cutecom ftw |
| 15:22.30 | CM | Tried minicom too, but that didnt work either, and the program just sucks really hard |
| 15:22.41 | CM | Talk about failed ui design |
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| 15:23.15 | CM | :) |
| 15:23.56 | Field | oh plz .. not again reading so much about the -senseless- difference between qt and openmoto .. |
| 15:24.48 | Field | by the way i use cutecom with activated cdc-kernel-support to conenct my u-boot .. but never tried this with the debug-board |
| 15:26.03 | CM | I've been able to connect to u-boot once, but the was a long while ago |
| 15:26.14 | xcasex | CM: cute.com. |
| 15:27.21 | CM | emerge cutecom ;) 22kb :D |
| 15:27.27 | Field | y .. use cutecom .. of course u need to connect as root, otherwise you'll not get access to ttyACM0 .. but - maybe someone with more linux-skills could change this also |
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| 15:34.05 | mohamed | please any one have an idea why make setup doesn't work? |
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| 15:34.40 | PBeck | hi |
| 15:36.08 | abraxa_ | mohamed: Did you read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile#Required_software ? |
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| 15:39.54 | mohamed | abraxa: yes, carefully and followed the steps, it works sometimes of the day and the rest I get a connection refused error |
| 15:40.06 | Field | ok, here is my one: I want to change the size of the partitions. I know, that I have to use "setenv mtdparts" and so on. My question is, if I want to increase the kernel-size up to 11MB, do I also have to "de-"crease the size of rootfs (0x03d1c000) .. so my kernel would be 0xA80000 and rootfs would be 0x0349c000 ?? is this correct? |
| 15:41.31 | mohamed | abraxa: I used make setup with opensuse 10.2 and ubuntu 7.10 it works but not all of the time; I'm using make update-bleeding-ege |
| 15:42.01 | abraxa_ | mohamed: You only need to do make setup once |
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| 15:45.15 | mohamed | abraxa: yes, I now, but I've installed ubuntu 7.10 two days ago and want to build moko on it so I have to run make setup the make openmoko-devel-image; make setup worked fine from 12:30pm till 3:00pm this day (I live in Egypt and it''s now 5:44) then it stopped working and said connection refused |
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| 15:45.48 | abraxa_ | If it worked fine then what's the problem? |
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| 15:48.12 | mohamed | abraxa: it is not working now (I've stopped make setup step because my connection was down and then resumed it I asked a friend to try it on his machine and the same error connection refused) |
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| 15:51.12 | mohamed | abraxa:mtn: connecting to monotone.openmoko.org |
| 15:51.13 | mohamed | mtn: network error: failed to connect: Connection refused |
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| 15:52.13 | CM | mohamed: Try OM_MONOTONE_SITE=monotone.openembedded.org make setup |
| 15:52.39 | CM | the montone.openembedded.org service crashed earlier |
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| 15:53.25 | CM | Or maybe "make OM_MONOTONE_SITE=monotone.openembedded.org setup", don't know if that matters.. |
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| 15:55.33 | mohamed | CM: OM_MONOTONE_SITE=monotone.openembedded.org make setup gives the same error, but make OM_MONOTONE_SITE=monotone.openembedded.org setup works fine |
| 15:55.53 | CM | Ok, thanks :) |
| 15:56.38 | mohamed | CM: Thanks so what does it mean OM_MONOTONE_SITE=monotone.openembedded.org ? |
| 15:57.02 | CM | mohamed: That means "use the openembedded montone server" |
| 15:57.29 | CM | The openmoko server is supposed to be the same database, but with a few days lag |
| 15:57.46 | mohamed | CM: does make update-bleeding-edge differs from make setup? |
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| 15:58.03 | CM | Yes, it syncs against openembedded |
| 15:58.19 | CM | instead of the (now broken) openmoko db |
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| 16:00.25 | mohamed | CM: and that means that make update-bleeding-edge won't help me setting up the environment for building moko? |
| 16:00.37 | kinneh | is ther any newer builds around than 7/12 ? |
| 16:02.17 | mohamed | CM: or you mean that make update-bleeding-edge is the best way around? |
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| 16:04.01 | CM | kinneh: I have from 11th |
| 16:04.34 | CM | mohamed: I mean that monotone.openembedded.org works right now, but soon the one at openmoko should work too |
| 16:05.14 | CM | kinneh: That I've tested. Also have one from earlier today: http://claesmogren.com/~cm/neo/current/images/neo1973/ |
| 16:05.46 | mohamed | CM: ok thank you so much |
| 16:06.02 | CM | You're welcome, and good luck with the build :) |
| 16:06.15 | kinneh | cm thx will test them tonight |
| 16:06.59 | CM | kinneh: They're bleeding-edge and srcrev set to auto :) |
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| 16:34.17 | NineX | CM: my neo seems to be broked, sometimes i can run openocd, but moostly times i got error, i checked cable is ok. |
| 16:34.42 | CM | NineX: Was the same to me, not sure what the problem is |
| 16:34.54 | mmontour | NineX: openocd seems to be very sensitive to the order that you plug things in and run the programs |
| 16:35.06 | CM | But I know XorA|gone said he had to try 3-4 times to power on the debug board each time for it to work |
| 16:35.17 | XorA|gone | procedure is reser/run/reset/run until it works |
| 16:35.59 | CM | Any idea why it's so unreliable? |
| 16:36.11 | NineX | mmontour: i conentging FPC cable first, then connect neo -> debugboard usb cable, then i plug battery, last think i do connecting usb cable from debugboard into my pc |
| 16:36.20 | XorA|gone | CM: it depends what crap is run and whether it puts cpu into non jtagable state |
| 16:36.28 | CM | Ok |
| 16:36.38 | XorA|gone | CM: you need to slip in before it enters something like sleep state |
| 16:36.52 | mmontour | If you can, try to plug the neo into your PC's USB instead of the debug-board hub |
| 16:36.53 | CM | Have to try some more today and see if I can somehow attatch to u-boot |
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| 16:37.11 | dcordes | high. Where in the tree are modem drivers stalled? |
| 16:37.58 | NineX | sometimes i can run openocd, i run u-boot, i have only boot and factory defaults in console and i don't have idea how to take acces to serial console to reformat nand and make configuration |
| 16:38.17 | NineX | some one have u-boot version that have serial console on ? |
| 16:38.24 | NineX | by default ^ |
| 16:38.25 | NineX | ? |
| 16:38.41 | CM | NineX: No |
| 16:39.16 | CM | NineX: Harald added that on October 15th, but uboot has been broken ever since august, practically |
| 16:39.41 | NineX | so if someone clean nand, and u_boot-env is broken, there is no way to unbrick phone |
| 16:39.52 | NineX | CM: so we need older release? |
| 16:40.00 | CM | NineX: There is, using the debug board, but i just don't know how |
| 16:40.01 | XorA|gone | NineX: if you have debug board, run devirginator |
| 16:40.15 | NineX | XorA|gone: ??? |
| 16:40.23 | XorA|gone | NineX: see wiki |
| 16:40.50 | CM | NineX: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Devirginator |
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| 16:53.30 | mmontour | NineX and CM: I've written a suggested debug-board procedure at http://www.pastebin.ca/814889 |
| 16:55.14 | mmontour | It's how I was able to get my debug board to work (from memory - it was last month that I did this) |
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| 17:12.45 | CM | mmontour: thanks a lot, I'll try those steps after dinner :D |
| 17:14.40 | mmontour | CM: good luck. If it works, let me know and I'll put it on the wiki |
| 17:15.15 | lorenz | hello |
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| 17:24.40 | lorenz | what is the best way to repair a neo1973 if even u-boot is dead |
| 17:25.32 | CoreDump | JTAG via debug-board as explained in the wiki somewhere |
| 17:25.44 | lorenz | i do have a debug-board, but actually the openocd configuration in the wiki seems to be inappropriate |
| 17:25.52 | lorenz | yes i read that |
| 17:27.09 | CoreDump | worked for me w/ a P0 *shrug* |
| 17:27.58 | lorenz | well, i end up with http://nopaste.php-quake.net/11709 |
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| 17:29.32 | lorenz | and i really cannot understand why the ft2232 interface cannot be found (anyway the latest "devirginate" lacks the target to build the devirginate-tool |
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| 17:30.04 | CM | lorenz: I had the same problem yesterday |
| 17:30.33 | CM | lorenz: You really have to have a working openocd.cfg in the dir you run it from |
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| 17:31.27 | CM | lorenz: I managed to connect once using this config http://rafb.net/p/20fIK069.html |
| 17:32.28 | mmontour | lorenz: I would try a newer version of openocd (yours appears to be from 2006-08-01) |
| 17:34.08 | lorenz | well I had a newer one, and dongraded to check if that helped |
| 17:34.22 | lorenz | i will try the one from rafb |
| 17:34.34 | lorenz | thanks |
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| 17:47.06 | philippe | lorenz: I just dug up my openocd.cfg and it is identical to the one CM posted. So that one should work |
| 17:48.04 | lorenz | ok, I'll see (currently i was a bit distracted by my boss) |
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| 17:54.54 | lorenz | ok, thanks, I'm on, so next step is to get u-boot running, right? |
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| 17:58.43 | philippe | lorenz: correct |
| 17:59.10 | philippe | at least that is what I did. Once you have u-boot you can do the rest like usual |
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| 18:08.13 | lorenz | ok, philippe you did that, before i waste time finding the right commands for the jtag: can you tell me what exactly you did? |
| 18:08.26 | lorenz | (I'm not in to openocd) |
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| 18:11.54 | mmontour | lorenz: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader#Using_JTAG_to_boot_from_RAM |
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| 18:33.57 | torpor | uh oh .. |
| 18:34.00 | torpor | whats going on here? |
| 18:34.05 | torpor | A tags/repository-before-first-cleanup-2007-12-12/src/target/OM-2007/artwork/icons/ChangeLog |
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| 18:35.38 | roh | torpor we tagged the svn and deleted the 2007.1 stuff as well as outdated and unmaintained bitrorring stuff |
| 18:36.18 | roh | eh bitrotting |
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| 18:52.48 | komar007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.28 | lorenz | thanks, i managed to revive my neo |
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| 19:11.25 | CM | mmontour: Been trying for around 20 minutes now, no success at all |
| 19:11.37 | CM | openocd just keeps failing.. http://rafb.net/p/rhKV9y81.html |
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| 19:12.26 | CoreDump | Well, I could upload a _really_ ancient devirginizer which worked for me |
| 19:12.46 | CM | The ftdi_sio module seems to work correctly.. http://rafb.net/p/wpMtuE75.html |
| 19:13.09 | CM | And I and I can reboot the neo by pressing the reboot button |
| 19:13.47 | CM | It anoying since I one did manage to use openocd yesterday, but then I didn't know what command to type in |
| 19:14.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 1131 has been created by tschlabach(AT)gmx.net |
| 19:14.02 | CM | And now, having the exact same settings I've failed for 20 minutes straight |
| 19:14.02 | cdbot2 | * * SIM does not register with network |
| 19:14.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1131 |
| 19:14.05 | CoreDump | ./devirginate -1 -2 |
| 19:14.22 | CM | Ah.. |
| 19:14.26 | CM | <- stupid |
| 19:14.37 | CM | openocd and ./openocd isn't the same thing.. :P |
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| 19:15.13 | abraxa_ | CM is not stupid. |
| 19:15.45 | CM | Well, the stupid thing was to try the gentoo openocd ebuild, then forgetting about it when I try to run :) |
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| 19:52.14 | renatofilho_ | chris^: ping |
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| 19:52.25 | chris^ | renatofilho_: yes? |
| 19:53.10 | renatofilho_ | chris^: Do you write MokofingerScroll? |
| 19:53.16 | chris^ | no |
| 19:53.37 | renatofilho_ | :( |
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| 19:58.58 | CM | Configuring the devirginator sure isn't easy.. |
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| 20:08.27 | mmontour | CM: how far did you get? Were you able to load u-boot over the JTAG? |
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| 20:22.39 | new_bie | how can i find out whether gcc uses ntpl or not ? |
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| 20:28.02 | jas4711 | building fails for me right now. curl configure parameters needs s/--without-idn/--without-libidn/. where would one submit such a patch? to the openembedded folks? or to openmoko |
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| 20:34.52 | new_bie | just found out in toolchain .config BR2_PTHREADS_NATIVE is not set |
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| 20:53.28 | CVirus | It seems that I can't wait for the GTA02 |
| 20:53.49 | CVirus | I guess I'll buy an N810 and keep my Nokia 6600 for phone calls |
| 20:55.09 | Mek | bah... why does the default qt4 oe recipee has so many settings disabled... this is about the 5th time I'm recompiling qt4 because it turend out I needed one more option enabled... |
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| 20:59.47 | Deorca_ | hello? |
| 21:00.24 | CVirus | hi |
| 21:00.39 | Deorca_ | Having problems getting USB networking on my device, can anyone help? |
| 21:02.34 | josch | Deorca_, this works: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Proxying_with_dnrd |
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| 21:04.36 | Deorca_ | actually not tried that - is there any reason why this should work rather than the basic manual method? |
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| 21:09.34 | Deorca_ | josch, will give it a go. Thanks! |
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| 21:11.27 | haakeyar | borg_: I posted a small (and maybe stupid or already implemented) idea in the talk page for your screen locker. :) |
| 21:13.19 | borg_ | haakeyar: sounds good |
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| 21:22.18 | kinneh | CM: 20071213 image dont work so good for me, I'll try 1212 |
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| 21:22.51 | kinneh | err 20071211 |
| 21:22.59 | CM | kinneh: Ok, thanks for testing :) |
| 21:24.31 | kinneh | cm adc_read in the console over and over again |
| 21:28.01 | kinneh | CM: accually 1213 works now, rebooted 3rd time |
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| 21:51.13 | broedje | does anybody know what must be done under grml-debian with file-rc to have udev running smooth, and some bluetooth support? qqqqqq |
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| 22:05.27 | tnb_ | anyone seen this error when trying to bitbake openmoko-image: ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-openmoko-linux: libelf (>= 0.8.6) |
| 22:05.40 | tnb_ | libelf is present and is version 0.8.6 |
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| 22:11.43 | tnb_ | I'll try to blow away TMPDIR and rebuild |
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| 22:14.56 | belegurth | hello |
| 22:15.02 | ajbrun | RAH! |
| 22:15.22 | belegurth | poor ajbrun |
| 22:15.28 | ajbrun | :( |
| 22:15.28 | ajbrun | ? |
| 22:15.46 | belegurth | do you admit you're poor? |
| 22:15.46 | buzzinfly | i'm in the uk and received phone yesterday. however i cannot get my sim card to register when the microSD card is inserted. when the sd card is not inserted the sim works fine. any idea what i'm doing wrong? |
| 22:15.52 | belegurth | why |
| 22:16.15 | ajbrun | no, but you're the first uk person i've seen here |
| 22:16.18 | ajbrun | so hello to you |
| 22:16.31 | belegurth | do you admit you're poor, ajbrun? |
| 22:16.48 | ajbrun | what's poor got to do with anything? |
| 22:16.56 | belegurth | I asked you |
| 22:16.57 | ajbrun | i thought i was just being enthusiastic |
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| 22:17.02 | belegurth | do you admit it? |
| 22:17.10 | ajbrun | no? |
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| 22:17.33 | belegurth | why not |
| 22:18.09 | belegurth | I asked you something |
| 22:18.35 | ajbrun | because i'm not eating out of a pot noodle sat on a street corner whilst people walk past me on the street on a frosty cold december day? |
| 22:18.44 | abraxa_ | buzzinfly: Maybe the SD card lifts the SIM card up just enough to prevent the contacts from connecting |
| 22:18.53 | belegurth | so you don't admit it? |
| 22:19.23 | belegurth | I asked you something |
| 22:19.23 | abraxa_ | belegurth: May I kindly ask to stop harassing people in here. |
| 22:19.23 | ajbrun | i think that's what i said, although i'm not sure where you're going with this line of questioning... |
| 22:19.30 | ajbrun | are you poor? |
| 22:19.34 | belegurth | yes |
| 22:19.38 | belegurth | at least I admit it |
| 22:19.39 | ajbrun | yet you have a PC? |
| 22:19.53 | belegurth | yes |
| 22:20.03 | belegurth | so you're poor too |
| 22:20.04 | ajbrun | you know if you sold your pc, you'd probably get enough money for food for the month |
| 22:20.15 | buzzinfly | so how have people managed in the past with an sd card and a sim? there is nothing in relation to this issue on the wiki |
| 22:20.25 | belegurth | do you admit you're rich, ajbrun? |
| 22:21.03 | abraxa_ | buzzinfly: Maybe you bent the holder a little? It's a little on the fragile side so this can happen easily |
| 22:21.20 | belegurth | ajbrun, I asked you something |
| 22:21.38 | ajbrun | belegurth - i listened to your annoyance for so long. If you keep harrassing me, i'll just set you to ignore |
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| 22:23.57 | belegurth | I'm sorry, ajbrun |
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| 22:25.06 | belegurth | do you accept my apology? |
| 22:25.41 | ajbrun | i guess, but don't ruin it with another failed attempt at a conversation |
| 22:27.22 | belegurth | alright |
| 22:27.31 | belegurth | your name sounds norwegian or danish |
| 22:28.10 | ajbrun | lucky me |
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| 22:29.25 | belegurth | do you come from scandinavia? |
| 22:29.38 | ajbrun | no |
| 22:30.30 | abraxa_ | belegurth: Are you a bot? |
| 22:30.32 | hans_schmitt | i'm making a point here |
| 22:31.04 | ajbrun | it'd be embrassing if he was :p |
| 22:31.32 | belegurth | abraxa: yes, I am a bot |
| 22:31.47 | abraxa_ | I wouldn't be surprised if he merely reacted on the "ignore" in your sentence before the apology *shrugs* |
| 22:31.52 | zilux | see the address WP-Gast*.dclient.hispeed.ch recurrent pb with it |
| 22:32.26 | abraxa_ | zilux: pb? |
| 22:32.26 | ajbrun | true, although i wouldn't see the point in making a bot as clever (and i use that term VERY lightly) as this entity |
| 22:32.43 | josch | guys... let him talk... just ignore him and don't say anything else to him - enough on this now |
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| 22:33.23 | josch | wohoo! the one and only non-impostor nelson! :-D |
| 22:36.24 | belegurth | ajbrun: do you really want to hurt me? |
| 22:36.33 | belegurth | do you really want to make me cry |
| 22:36.48 | nelson | josch: yep, that's me. |
| 22:36.56 | josch | nelson, ^^ |
| 22:39.53 | belegurth | hello? |
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| 22:49.33 | josch | great he left... |
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| 22:50.14 | josch | aren't this situations where having mods would come in handy? |
| 22:50.59 | ajbrun | is SpeedEvil one? He set the topic |
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| 22:53.06 | josch | ajbrun, everybody can set the topic - wanna try? |
| 22:53.17 | ajbrun | ah - didn't realise :p |
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| 22:53.23 | *** topic/#openmoko by josch -> The OpenMoko Project - http://openmoko.org - Neo1973 GTA01 on sale at https://direct.openmoko.com || Do not ask about GTA02 (Maybe March as of last update - yes, that's with WiFi, and no, there's no cam). Latest official update is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates - test |
| 22:53.25 | ajbrun | you make a good point |
| 22:53.35 | *** topic/#openmoko by josch -> The OpenMoko Project - http://openmoko.org - Neo1973 GTA01 on sale at https://direct.openmoko.com || Do not ask about GTA02 (Maybe March as of last update - yes, that's with WiFi, and no, there's no cam). Latest official update is at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates |
| 22:53.39 | josch | ajbrun, see? |
| 22:53.47 | ajbrun | indeed |
| 22:54.19 | josch | it's difficult some times to not feed the trolls ^^ |
| 22:55.19 | ajbrun | i don't mind sometimes, if only to find out what they want |
| 22:55.29 | ajbrun | although i don't come accross many |
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