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| 00:03.21 | abraxa_ | Anyone knows what happened to aloril? |
| 00:03.58 | josch | abraxa_: maybe he got lost like thomasg did... :-( |
| 00:04.10 | mjr | abraxa_, nothing that I know |
| 00:04.22 | abraxa_ | Well, his scripts stopped working |
| 00:04.24 | abraxa_ | I miss them :) |
| 00:04.35 | josch | why don't you drop him a line? aloril@iki.fi |
| 00:04.38 | mjr | ah, the scripts |
| 00:04.45 | abraxa_ | I left PMs but never got responses either |
| 00:04.50 | abraxa_ | Thanks josch, I'll do that then |
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| 00:57.07 | thomasg | josch: hm> |
| 00:57.09 | thomasg | ? |
| 00:57.44 | josch | thomasg: hi thomasg!! |
| 00:57.51 | thomasg | :) |
| 00:57.59 | josch | I'm not surprised you are awake so late/early |
| 00:58.04 | josch | in the night/morning |
| 00:58.17 | thomasg | maybe I'm mentally gone (= I'm drunk), but I'm still here (physically) |
| 00:58.29 | josch | I wanted to do an E17 openmoko build |
| 00:58.37 | thomasg | bitbake e-wm :) |
| 00:58.39 | josch | what do I have to do? is there a wiki page? |
| 00:58.44 | josch | but |
| 00:58.59 | josch | this will not activate it as my default environment |
| 00:59.48 | thomasg | if you install e-wm on your neo/xephyr via ipkg-install e-wm it should be activated by default |
| 01:01.01 | josch | this sounds too easy to be true... I can remember you having massive problems with E17 |
| 01:02.14 | thomasg | my I had the most probs at build-time, not at runtime |
| 01:02.26 | thomasg | but if you tell me the errors, maybe I can help |
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| 01:10.59 | josch | thomasg: no, no errors I just couln't believe it to be so easy ^^ |
| 01:11.18 | josch | I will start make build-package-e-wm now |
| 01:11.47 | abraxa_ | josch: That'll take a while |
| 01:17.34 | AntonTakk | last time I tried to build e-wm it died on edje |
| 01:21.48 | thomasg | AntonTakk: you're on x86 or x64? |
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| 01:25.43 | AntonTakk | 64 |
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| 01:38.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 989 has been created by abraxa(AT)dar-clan.de |
| 01:38.01 | cdbot2 | * * neod closes openmoko-today |
| 01:38.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=989 |
| 01:44.12 | AntonTakk | thomasg: x64 |
| 01:44.35 | thomasg | AntonTakk: believe me: use x86 :) |
| 01:45.21 | AntonTakk | hrm |
| 01:45.26 | AntonTakk | not much of a solution |
| 01:47.03 | AntonTakk | sides, how would you tell the mokomakefile to build 32 bit cross compiler and etc rather than 64? |
| 01:53.35 | Vegar | hey.. why isn't Oslo in the worldclock application? |
| 01:58.57 | Kensan | exit |
| 02:01.12 | thomasg | Vegar: pah, oslo? :P |
| 02:01.34 | Vegar | yeah, and copenhagen |
| 02:01.39 | mwester | Vegar: You have the source code ;) |
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| 02:02.08 | thomasg | AntonTakk: yeah, it isn't really a solution |
| 02:02.51 | thomasg | I'm on x64, too, but every time I fixed a build-time-problem, another appeared. after I while I gave up and ran debootstrap for a i386 chroot. |
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| 02:16.59 | josch | thomasg: hrm... e-wm compiles for half an hour now on x86-64... maybe I'm lucky? |
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| 02:18.03 | thomasg | maybe you really are. but I hope it's not only e-wm - because that shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes :) |
| 02:19.13 | josch | only did make build-package-e-wm <= it seems to have thousands of deps... |
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| 02:25.33 | josch | thomasg: success!! |
| 02:25.42 | josch | no problems with x86_64 |
| 02:26.06 | josch | 716 tasks completed successfully |
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| 02:43.23 | kristian-m | abraxa_ see bug #972 on neod - won't mark it as duplicate, as you're right about the bugzilla category :-) |
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| 08:51.52 | vciaglia | hello guys |
| 08:52.09 | vciaglia | i'd like to suggest this while auto-registering to my network |
| 08:52.09 | vciaglia | ** (matchbox-panel-2:1287): CRITICAL **: moko_gsmd_connection_network_register: assertion `priv->handle' failed |
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| 09:08.16 | abraxa_ | kristian-m: Yeah, I still marked it as dup because the title wasn't appropriate in that case |
| 09:08.41 | abraxa_ | kristian-m: Thanks for the hint. Looks like filing bugs at night is a bad idea. :) |
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| 09:45.17 | PBeck | hi |
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| 11:17.32 | Elephant | Hi, All! |
| 11:17.34 | Elephant | news |
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| 11:36.00 | trendozlem | fd |
| 11:36.25 | trendozlem | ;) |
| 11:36.30 | trendozlem | :ciao: |
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| 12:16.48 | xzcvczx | roh: are you around? |
| 12:25.29 | PBeck | counter |
| 12:25.37 | PBeck | huh? ;) |
| 12:31.10 | xzcvczx | oh dear |
| 12:31.15 | xzcvczx | white screen cant mean good |
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| 12:32.10 | xzcvczx | really cant mean good :S |
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| 12:34.23 | cb22 | ouch |
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| 12:34.55 | xzcvczx | cb22: have you got a advanced? |
| 12:35.12 | cb22 | nope, i'm wating for 02 |
| 12:37.29 | xzcvczx | FU** i have either cleared my uboot or done something worse |
| 12:37.33 | xzcvczx | f*** |
| 12:37.36 | xzcvczx | f&%# |
| 12:37.38 | cb22 | big ouch |
| 12:37.46 | cb22 | what were you doing? |
| 12:38.31 | xzcvczx | trying to work out why my touchscreen wasnt working properly |
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| 12:49.06 | xzcvczx | oh well theres a $400 brick |
| 12:49.20 | cb22 | :( |
| 12:49.26 | cb22 | where are you? |
| 12:49.28 | xzcvczx | nz |
| 12:49.38 | xzcvczx | i dont think anyone in nz ordered an advanced |
| 12:49.44 | cb22 | what about aus or so? |
| 12:49.56 | abraxa_ | xzcvczx: What's exactly happening? You're turning the Neo on and the screen just turns white, nothing else? |
| 12:50.29 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: yup |
| 12:50.44 | abraxa_ | xzcvczx: Can you check battery voltage? |
| 12:51.27 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: not easily my multimeter got nicked a while ago |
| 12:51.55 | xzcvczx | you think it will help if i chuck it on charge for a while? |
| 12:52.07 | abraxa_ | It might |
| 12:52.12 | cb22 | try the reset charge thing? |
| 12:53.38 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: is it possible to blank the flash by unplugging something on the board? |
| 12:54.07 | abraxa_ | You quite certainly wouldn't want to blank the flash |
| 12:54.13 | xzcvczx | (has put it on charge now will leave it overnight as it will be on slow charge |
| 12:54.36 | abraxa_ | Well, NAND I mean. |
| 12:54.36 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: yeah i relise that but is it possible to do that? |
| 12:55.32 | cb22 | xzcvczx, does your screen stay white, or just flash? |
| 12:55.45 | xzcvczx | stay white |
| 12:55.51 | cb22 | for ever? |
| 12:55.52 | abraxa_ | There's no point - you'd lose your (unique) bad block table and would need a debug board to devirginate the device; that's not much different from when your device is bricked, just a tad worse |
| 12:56.43 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: i am not trying to do it just wondering whether i could have done it by accident while i had my phone open |
| 12:57.06 | abraxa_ | Doubt it |
| 12:57.43 | cb22 | xzcvczx, maybe one of the buttons is stuck in or something? |
| 12:59.34 | xzcvczx | nah its not one of the buttons |
| 13:00.03 | cb22 | and you haven't been flashing? |
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| 13:02.28 | xzcvczx | nah last flash i did was at least a week ago |
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| 13:06.54 | jackkk | hi |
| 13:07.00 | xzcvczx | hmmm it registers itself as a cdc_ether but then disconnects and doesnt come back up |
| 13:07.37 | jackkk | when coming neo1973 gta2? |
| 13:07.48 | cb22 | topic... |
| 13:07.57 | jackkk | hhehe |
| 13:07.59 | abraxa_ | xzcvczx: I'd try letting it load :) |
| 13:07.59 | jackkk | thank's |
| 13:08.33 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: doesnt seem to reregister though |
| 13:09.15 | xzcvczx | at the moment the battery is out to reset it to an off state properly as its being a pita at the moment |
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| 13:10.58 | abraxa_ | anrp: ping |
| 13:16.13 | xzcvczx | ok flash is fine touchscreen == stoofed |
| 13:16.13 | xzcvczx | well screen == stoofed |
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| 13:17.06 | xzcvczx | does anyone know where the display connector is? |
| 13:20.00 | abraxa_ | No offense, but patience isn't one of your key skills, hm? ;) |
| 13:20.37 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: no, been awake too long |
| 13:20.58 | xzcvczx | and thankyou muchly for your help thought |
| 13:21.14 | abraxa_ | Just saying cause fiddling with it might *really* break it, so I'd just try letting it charge and see what happens then |
| 13:21.49 | xzcvczx | abraxa_: ah ok sounds good as i really should have been asleep hours ago |
| 13:22.11 | abraxa_ | Now that's two good reasons right there ;) |
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| 13:22.43 | krLun | anyone know what (or if) there will be an european distributor for GTA02 in december? |
| 13:22.55 | xzcvczx | it goes red then black then red then black doesnt it? |
| 13:23.01 | xzcvczx | :P |
| 13:24.46 | abraxa_ | krLun: European distriutor yes, December no ;) |
| 13:24.57 | abraxa_ | Well, at least "unconfirmed" |
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| 13:25.01 | krLun | k |
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| 13:59.41 | abraxa_ | XorA: Mind bumping some srcrevs? Currently openmoko-today2, matchbox-desktop-2 and openmoko-dates2 aren't building because of external changes that the current revs don't honor |
| 14:01.33 | abraxa_ | I gotta go for a bit, so in case you feel like doing it, here are the revs: today2=3342, desktop-2=1778, dates2=659 |
| 14:02.44 | josch | can confirm this working - with these changes the whole build went from start to end without errors |
| 14:03.20 | abraxa_ | Danke ;) |
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| 14:22.25 | hrw|gone | abraxa_: pushing those updates now |
| 14:22.49 | hrw|gone | bye |
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| 14:50.08 | Sup3rkiddo | hey guys, http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/python-gsmd/examples/pygsmd_shell.py?rev=84&root=python-openmoko&view=markup, libgsmd-tool -m shell in good 'ol python...still incomplete though |
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| 15:09.02 | abraxa_ | Thanks, hrw|gone :) |
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| 15:25.23 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3346 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-usb/ (ChangeLog src/openmoko-panel-usb.c): openmoko-panel-usb: hide USB applet initially |
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| 15:35.52 | tRubl | I'm trying to setup a new makefile environment and am running into an issue configing libjana. It's telling me it needs gobject-2 >= 2.12 The only gob2 I can find is 2.0.14 which I installed to no good. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? |
| 15:39.50 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3347 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/src/buttonactions.c: |
| 15:39.50 | CIA-13 | openmoko: neod: |
| 15:39.50 | CIA-13 | openmoko: * fix popup menu positioning when screen has been rotated (closes #964), patch by Kristian Mueller: Thanks! |
| 15:39.50 | CIA-13 | openmoko: * do not attempt to close the today window, no matter its title (closes #972), patch by Kristian Mueller: Thanks! |
| 15:40.10 | abraxa_ | Nice :) |
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| 15:41.01 | mickeyl | gobject is part of glib. |
| 15:41.10 | mickeyl | just build a glib >= 2.12 |
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| 15:54.01 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3348 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/ (configure.ac src/buttonactions.c): neod: add rudimentary support for HTC and iPAQ devices (from OE) |
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| 16:15.38 | aeshyamae | hi anybody doing circuit simulation in gnu? |
| 16:18.17 | Sup3rkiddo | aeshyamae: geda has a suite of programs, although not an expert in it |
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| 16:20.19 | aeshyamae | i made upto .net in geda but cant setup ngspice(first its not in standard repos)..it has a dependency on xspice and as i collect and compile it from another source its showing that make.include is missing.. i wonder why circuit simulation in gnu is so tough |
| 16:22.00 | aeshyamae | any body worked with gnucap? |
| 16:24.31 | Sup3rkiddo | aeshyamae: hmm, which distro? |
| 16:25.06 | aeshyamae | Sup3rkiddo: now in debian etch,or else gnewsense gobuntu |
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| 16:27.25 | Sup3rkiddo | etch, ah ok..maybe the version in the repos are a bit behind the latest |
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| 16:30.18 | aeshyamae | oo its in some debian repo?ill check |
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| 16:34.21 | aeshyamae | i have etch main repo but thats not having ngspice |
| 16:34.44 | Sup3rkiddo | i am not sure either..just ahunch |
| 16:36.07 | aeshyamae | Sup3rkiddo: tried gnucap? |
| 16:36.51 | Sup3rkiddo | aeshyamae: nope, i am not ee guy, :), was playing around geda sometime ago..thats all |
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| 16:39.04 | aeshyamae | k will check...was lazy to dive deep into commandline for circuit analysis...also i was interested to show my friends how we could replace Propreitary circuit simulators with geda or so..but cant progress much..though didnt done much hack,its not seeing very simple to me |
| 16:39.44 | SpeedEvil | there is ##electronics |
| 16:40.03 | aeshyamae | SpeedEvil: i am there |
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| 16:52.14 | PP|Spydon | Can anyone translate stuff? |
| 16:52.45 | Stephmw | without knowing from what to what... no? |
| 16:53.46 | PP|Spydon | But I mean if I know Swedish can I help you to translate apps from English to Swedish? |
| 16:55.07 | Stephmw | Ah, you'd like to help in the various translation efforts :) Best place to offer I think would be the mailing lists |
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| 16:57.00 | s0u][ight | hello |
| 16:57.32 | PP|Spydon | Where do I sign up for the mailing list? :P |
| 16:57.58 | s0u][ight | what are the differences between this and iphone? |
| 16:59.31 | guaqua | s0u][ight: see wiki |
| 16:59.46 | s0u][ight | can you give a link |
| 16:59.58 | guaqua | wiki dot openmoko dot org |
| 17:00.32 | s0u][ight | is iphone oldschool? |
| 17:00.34 | s0u][ight | :D |
| 17:01.14 | XorA | iPhone is some pretty polish on very ancient ideas |
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| 17:08.59 | PP|Spydon | is 60$ much for a 8gb microSD? |
| 17:09.25 | s0u][ight | i think it is a good price dunno |
| 17:09.47 | SpeedEvil | PP|Spydon: I'd buy it at that price |
| 17:09.51 | guaqua | sounds about right |
| 17:10.10 | PP|Spydon | then I will prepare myself for the phone and buy it :P |
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| 17:16.31 | anrp | does the phone support SDHC though D: |
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| 17:19.46 | s0u][ight | will i be able to code with the neo1973? |
| 17:20.45 | PP|Spydon | I saw that they were working on a J2ME thingy |
| 17:21.56 | PP|Spydon | But I don't know if it comes with a compiler... |
| 17:22.22 | s0u][ight | please be so i would like to program with it :D |
| 17:23.29 | mwester | You write and compile the software on a host system, such as a Linux computer (and maybe a windows or mac system in the future), and download them to the Neo. |
| 17:23.56 | s0u][ight | pfff not directly from the NEO?:( |
| 17:24.08 | mwester | It's possible to put a compiler and tools on the neo itself, but that's not a very practical development environment. |
| 17:24.19 | s0u][ight | i want to program in school to :D |
| 17:24.41 | guaqua | you could do it via the neo via ssh or so |
| 17:24.46 | mwester | Sort of. |
| 17:25.00 | s0u][ight | pfff that's too much work:D |
| 17:25.16 | mwester | For "toy" programs -- but real applications would just take too much storage space, memory, and CPU. |
| 17:25.48 | s0u][ight | btw is it realy to be found in stories i mean the NEO? |
| 17:26.11 | mwester | One could probably write programs with scripting languages, such as Python, directly on the Neo. That would certainly work. |
| 17:26.21 | Stephmw | s0u][ight: programming anything without a proper keyboard is an exercise in frustration |
| 17:26.47 | s0u][ight | :D your right :D |
| 17:27.10 | s0u][ight | what is the general language of moko? |
| 17:27.15 | u_l-lap | mwester: 4G is a lot of space |
| 17:27.15 | XorA | its amusing, once upon a time, a 7Mhz processor + 800K of storage was enough to start making real applications. Now a Neo with 400Mhz and 8Gig storage is deemed too small |
| 17:27.16 | s0u][ight | i hope c++ |
| 17:27.36 | u_l-lap | I'm pretty sure you could compile at least C on the neo, but slowly |
| 17:27.39 | guaqua | the whole environment is built with C |
| 17:27.44 | mwester | u_l-lap: Have you seen how much is required for a full toolchain capable of C++? |
| 17:27.57 | u_l-lap | mwester: yes because gcc is insane nowadays |
| 17:28.01 | guaqua | C is the common language and then there's bash |
| 17:28.03 | mwester | Yep. |
| 17:28.10 | guaqua | others you have to install yourself |
| 17:28.16 | u_l-lap | there is no justification for it! why should the C++ compiler need more cpu time and memory than sbcl |
| 17:28.29 | u_l-lap | and disk space! |
| 17:28.39 | mwester | For insanity, just look at the resources required to build libraries such as boost... |
| 17:28.50 | anrp | boost? |
| 17:28.53 | anrp | boost needs no building |
| 17:28.57 | anrp | does need a lot of ram though |
| 17:29.04 | s0u][ight | what is the memory of the NEO |
| 17:29.16 | anrp | boost is a mostly-header-only library |
| 17:29.17 | s0u][ight | without the micro sd card i mean? |
| 17:29.21 | anrp | almost 100% templates |
| 17:29.24 | anrp | hence the ram req |
| 17:29.34 | u_l-lap | mwester: 4G is still a lot of space; my entire debian install is only about a gig at the moment and that has gcc/g++ and a couple of lisp compilers |
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| 17:31.28 | mwester | anrp: Ok, perhaps I use the wrong terminology. Whatever component of mythtv identifies itself as "libboost" is what compiled all night on a P-III 800MHz w/256MB RAM -- a system that's comparable or probably faster, than the Neo. |
| 17:31.45 | anrp | probably? thats way faster than the neo |
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| 17:32.02 | mwester | And in the morning, it still wasn't done, so I aborted that, and built it on a P-4 |
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| 17:32.05 | anrp | but i could believe it, template parsing and function creation are relatively slow |
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| 17:32.24 | anrp | however, you have to look at development time vs compile time tradeoff |
| 17:32.25 | u_l-lap | clearly the solution is to use CL instead of C++ since it is lighter weight ;-) |
| 17:32.36 | mwester | The solution is to use emacs. |
| 17:32.40 | mwester | :p |
| 17:32.44 | anrp | thats a one time cost, if it saves the developer time, better machines are generally cheaper |
| 17:32.49 | anrp | and even if not... one time cost |
| 17:33.58 | mwester | I'm not willing to generalize in that way. I think that boost and similar libraries have a place, but one needs to match the tool to the job. And C++ code is generally heavier-weight, especially when using templates built upon templates built upon templates.... |
| 17:34.07 | anrp | yay templates D: |
| 17:34.25 | u_l-lap | templates are useless |
| 17:34.29 | anrp | ... |
| 17:34.33 | anrp | them's fighting words |
| 17:35.14 | anrp | how do you define useless, u_l-lap ? |
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| 17:35.33 | mwester | Actually, if we need object oriented, and it must be developed on the Neo itself, then it seems to me that Python is probably a very useful alternative. |
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| 17:35.41 | u_l-lap | anrp: if C++ weren't braindamaged it wouldn't need them |
| 17:35.55 | anrp | ah, so you're making a more general statement about the language |
| 17:35.56 | u_l-lap | mwester: python is slow and not a very nice language |
| 17:36.04 | u_l-lap | mwester: the clisp bytecompiler is faster and significantly faster |
| 17:36.22 | u_l-lap | anrp: it is a bit too machine oriented for my liking |
| 17:36.37 | anrp | well it is derived from a systems language |
| 17:36.51 | u_l-lap | that doesn't make it a good idea |
| 17:37.19 | CM | mwester: Vala might be an option too.. ;) |
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| 17:38.32 | mwester | But I thought we already have python bindings for the GUI stuff in openmoko? |
| 17:38.46 | CM | Yes, but python isn't installed by default is it? |
| 17:38.51 | anrp | only as much as GTK is bound to python |
| 17:38.57 | anrp | which i think is very close, so.. |
| 17:39.07 | CM | anrp: No, all moko libs have bindings |
| 17:39.20 | anrp | oh, really? wasnt sure of that... |
| 17:39.57 | CM | I think zecke did the first version this summer, and it's been updated since |
| 17:40.03 | CM | I haven't used it though.. |
| 17:40.09 | mwester | CM: The only scripting language installed in the image is "ash" (the busybox shell). We really need to pick a scripting language, and get it installed as standard. |
| 17:40.18 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3350 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/src/ (buttonactions.c buttonactions.h neod-main.c): neod: check initial charger status on startup and send via dbus |
| 17:40.19 | CM | mwester: Agreed |
| 17:40.30 | u_l-lap | there are nice gtk bindings for CL |
| 17:40.35 | u_l-lap | that would work on the neo even |
| 17:41.18 | mickeyl | i think python is the most viable option, both for the current UI and for possible forthcoming UIs |
| 17:41.19 | anrp | you're welcome to try, it's an open platform, and even with no hw you can play with qemu |
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| 17:43.05 | mickeyl | Enigma on the dreambox proofs that once you have fast UI libraries, you can code almost the entire application logic in Python without any major performance problem |
| 17:43.28 | mickeyl | and you can later recode the bottlenecks in C anyways |
| 17:43.33 | mwester | Exactly. |
| 17:43.34 | kristian-m | mickeyl I second that |
| 17:43.51 | u_l-lap | CL on the anything proves that once you have a fast compiler you can code the entire application, all of your libraries, and the UI in the same language ... |
| 17:44.02 | anrp | thats a very large undertakign |
| 17:44.05 | mwester | Seldom-used dialogs (such as setting up bluetooth devices) can be done in Python, saving the developers time for more important tasks. |
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| 17:44.43 | sagacis__ | I second the python. It's easy and works well. |
| 17:44.44 | kristian-m | mwester it also makes sense for prototyping |
| 17:46.35 | guaqua | python has already come the scripting language on the nwo |
| 17:46.36 | guaqua | neo |
| 17:46.44 | mickeyl | ok, so here's my long term plan |
| 17:46.47 | mickeyl | time to reveal it |
| 17:46.50 | AntonTakk | eh, last time i looked at python code it looked like spaghetti to the 20th power, of corse i guess that could have been the author, or the fact that it was an aim spam filter server |
| 17:46.53 | guaqua | as far as i know, majority of the non-c parts are in python |
| 17:47.38 | mickeyl | i want a super-high-level kick ass application framework for the OM application platform. this might not happen tomorrow, but hopefully within the next 2 years |
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| 17:47.59 | mickeyl | in the meantime, we can just use the low level framework, as in pygtk and python-efl |
| 17:48.08 | mickeyl | but eventually we want something that gives more bang for the buck |
| 17:48.33 | mickeyl | making it possible for non-geeks to contribute code |
| 17:48.36 | mickeyl | designers |
| 17:48.39 | mickeyl | creative people |
| 17:48.43 | mickeyl | etc. |
| 17:48.51 | mickeyl | that's where innovation starts imo |
| 17:48.54 | guaqua | even faster ui prototyping :) |
| 17:50.25 | kristian-m | yeah, nice plan |
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| 17:51.04 | kristian-m | mickeyl first step is to have stable apt in the platform though |
| 17:51.12 | kristian-m | s/apt/apt |
| 17:51.16 | kristian-m | api |
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| 17:59.23 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3351 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/src/buttonactions.c: neod: only check PMU event status input node on startup |
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| 18:01.37 | matsimoto | Does anyone know why 'echo "1" > /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta01-pm-gsm.0/power_on' is different from writing the char '1' from a C program to this file ? |
| 18:02.08 | cb22 | maybe because of a newline? |
| 18:02.22 | matsimoto | cb22: is this neccessary ? |
| 18:02.41 | cb22 | i'm not sure, but echo does it |
| 18:02.48 | cb22 | echo would really say 1\n |
| 18:03.05 | matsimoto | ok thanks, then I will try it with "1\n" |
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| 18:05.45 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3352 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-terminal2/ (ChangeLog data/openmoko-terminal.desktop): openmoko-terminal2: This application is not part of the PIM suite |
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| 18:11.06 | matsimoto | yepp, the \n seems to be neccessarry |
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| 18:18.14 | brad[] | Hi folks, who are the primary developers of the GUI for OpenMoko? |
| 18:18.28 | brad[] | I'm curious as to the breadth of development behind that component. |
| 18:19.38 | JohnMahowald | I would think there would be names in change logs, source control, about boxes, and the source itself |
| 18:19.49 | JohnMahowald | That's where one usually checks |
| 18:20.15 | CM | brad[]: The o-hand people have done a lot of work on that |
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| 18:25.51 | brad[] | CM: thx |
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| 18:28.38 | matsimoto | cb22: my fault \n makes no difference |
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| 18:37.46 | edistar | hello! I have seen a few videos on youtube and the keyboard looks like it won't be useable without stylus, is that going to stay that way or will it change to another system? |
| 18:42.04 | PP|Spydon | Does anyone know anything that needs to be translated into Swedish? :P |
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| 19:03.54 | PP|Spydon | Where shall I send .po files? |
| 19:05.06 | CM | PP|Spydon: Min gissning är att det är bäst att sätta dem som attatchment till en bug ;) |
| 19:06.23 | CM | Not much is translated so far, localization isn't prioritized yet |
| 19:07.05 | PP|Spydon | CM, översätter du allt eller? |
| 19:07.17 | CM | PP|Spydon: Nä, jag har inte översat en rad ännu |
| 19:07.22 | PP|Spydon | hehe ok :P |
| 19:07.41 | CM | Men jag har hängt här i nästan ett år (i #openmoko asså) och jag har en Neo |
| 19:07.48 | PP|Spydon | nice! |
| 19:08.10 | PP|Spydon | var bor du? |
| 19:08.21 | CM | Göteborg en månad till, sen Stockholm |
| 19:08.27 | PP|Spydon | okay |
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| 19:09.17 | PP|Spydon | Vi borde starta nån Neo User Group i sthlm :P |
| 19:09.45 | CM | Hehe.. Kanske det. jeddy3 bor där och har en också.. |
| 19:09.58 | jeddy3 | :D |
| 19:10.20 | jeddy3 | jepp |
| 19:10.42 | PP|Spydon | Värst vad Svenskar det var här då, snart blir man väll kickad för att man pratar Svenska :P |
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| 19:11.13 | CM | PP|Spydon: Vi är inte så många, kanske 4-5 stycken, men vi pratar rätt mycke.. ;) |
| 19:11.29 | PP|Spydon | Hehe, är ni programmerare eller |
| 19:11.46 | abraxa_ | What are you doing online, CM? Girlfriend went home? |
| 19:11.53 | jeddy3 | mmm, du? |
| 19:12.05 | CM | abraxa_: Hehe.. Yes, she got a lift to Stockholm with some of my friends |
| 19:12.21 | gw280 | I see foreign languages. |
| 19:12.23 | PP|Spydon | njaa det kan man väll inte riktigt kalla mig än :P |
| 19:12.30 | abraxa_ | CM: Ah okay then... otherwise I would've kicked you off the net ;) |
| 19:12.35 | CM | abraxa_: Hehe |
| 19:13.08 | jeddy3 | PP|Spydon, whare are you doing then? |
| 19:13.33 | CM | abraxa_: I've had a good time for sure, but now I need rest.. :P |
| 19:13.39 | PP|Spydon | gymnasiet, jeddy3 |
| 19:13.50 | PP|Spydon | or what did you mean? :P |
| 19:14.06 | abraxa_ | CM: *blinks* |
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| 19:14.12 | CM | PP|Spydon: Well, then we're more than 10 years ahead of you.. ;) |
| 19:14.13 | jeddy3 | PP|Spydon, yes thats what i meant... |
| 19:14.41 | abraxa_ | PP|Spydon: CM means to say "we're old farts" |
| 19:14.57 | CM | abraxa_: Yeah, you're really ancient.. :P |
| 19:14.59 | PP|Spydon | Hehe are you a Swede to abraxa_ ? |
| 19:15.09 | CM | Nein, deutschland! |
| 19:15.18 | abraxa_ | reprezent yo |
| 19:15.22 | CM | Hehe |
| 19:15.39 | PP|Spydon | hehe ok |
| 19:17.54 | jeddy3 | :D |
| 19:18.32 | fgau | CM: death.fm :) |
| 19:18.47 | CM | fgau: I'll check it out :) |
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| 19:19.53 | CM | thursday.. *blink* |
| 19:24.18 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3353 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/daemons/neod/src/buttonactions.c: neod: send notifications over dbus system bus (not session bus), fix signal names |
| 19:24.36 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3354 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-usb/src/openmoko-panel-usb.c: openmoko-panel-usb: dbus session bus |
| 19:24.50 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03mickey * r3355 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-battery/ (ChangeLog configure.ac src/openmoko-panel-battery.c): openmoko-panel-battery: dbus system bus |
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| 19:29.28 | woglinde_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:30.59 | pavelm | Hi, woglinde! |
| 19:32.25 | woglinde_ | hm scaredy-cat seems to have one |
| 19:32.46 | pavelm | I just flashed scaredy-cat's 11-01 image, and gsmd just will not work there :-( |
| 19:33.05 | abraxa__ | pavelm: I'd try mwester's kernel and rootfs |
| 19:33.17 | pavelm | abraxa: Do you have a pointer? |
| 19:33.24 | abraxa__ | http://moko.mwester.net |
| 19:33.47 | pavelm | (someone should create wiki page with "good firmwares" :-) |
| 19:33.54 | woglinde_ | pavelm hm |
| 19:34.17 | CM | pavelm: There was a page like that for a while, but I don't think it's updated any more |
| 19:35.10 | pavelm | CM: Do you recall its name? Perhaps I should update it... |
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| 19:35.46 | CM | It was like a review page of rootfs' from different dates |
| 19:35.49 | CM | I'll see if I can find it |
| 19:36.28 | CM | pavelm: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Phase_1_Software_Testing |
| 19:36.49 | pavelm | Thanks! |
| 19:37.00 | CM | Hmm.. hhf423 has been pretty dilligent :D |
| 19:37.31 | CM | Well, was no edit after Sept 16 before today |
| 19:38.06 | pavelm | Hmm, looks too long to be really useful. |
| 19:39.03 | CM | Some of the old reviews should be moved away from that page or so |
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| 20:19.29 | pavelm | send greetings to mff, Marex :-) |
| 20:23.36 | univac | it was you school? :P |
| 20:23.55 | pavelm | univac: Yes; to some extent, it still is. |
| 20:24.03 | univac | :) |
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| 20:26.28 | pavelm | Thanks for the http://moko.mwester.net. It seems to work. |
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| 20:33.30 | pavelm | Has anyone seen working sms aplication for the neo? |
| 20:35.44 | CM | pavelm: I think the plan might be to use something tiny-mail based |
| 20:35.50 | CM | So it's the same for sms and email |
| 20:36.12 | CM | But I'm just guessing and speculating based on rumours as usually ;) |
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| 20:39.19 | cb22 | yeah, that would make sense |
| 20:41.09 | CM | And all events stored in eds-dbus |
| 20:44.24 | cb22 | how much memory does eds use? |
| 20:44.24 | pavelm | CM : I actually got desktop mailer to work on neo (in chroot) but it was ... not quite usable due to tiny screen. |
| 20:45.38 | CM | Heh, I can imagine that |
| 20:46.18 | pavelm | ...sylpheed, now I recall its name. |
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| 20:46.28 | pavelm | ...there's a sylpheed for n800, that should be better. |
| 20:46.53 | CM | Does gpe have any mail app? |
| 20:47.06 | zecke | cb22: no idea, you could meassure it. Install exmap(server) and meassure it with zero stuff inside the db and then write a script (I think o-hand has one) to generate dummy entries |
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| 20:48.01 | cb22 | zecke, good idea |
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| 20:50.00 | pavelm | ...hmm, that might be useful, read the smses from computer :-) |
| 20:50.15 | cb22 | pavelm, yeah sounds pretty cool |
| 20:50.17 | cb22 | actually |
| 20:50.18 | CM | cb22: Check out http://projects.o-hand.com/eds :) |
| 20:50.36 | cb22 | s/actually// |
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| 21:04.06 | Ghiottone | hola |
| 21:04.28 | cb22 | back girl |
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| 21:05.03 | cb22 | for those of you who are wondering wtf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollaback_Girl |
| 21:06.10 | cb22 | yeah, but the shit is bananas |
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| 21:09.59 | Ghiottone | eheh |
| 21:10.36 | sagacis__ | good times, good times. Just don't phunk with my heart. |
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| 21:12.17 | cb22 | please, where is the love? |
| 21:12.51 | sagacis__ | cb22, you got the wicked style |
| 21:13.37 | cb22 | yeah, well fuck it. |
| 21:13.59 | cb22 | communicating in songs is fun :) |
| 21:15.31 | sagacis__ | It's a "who's line is it anyway" game. Well, song titles anyway |
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| 21:35.10 | slux | hi |
| 21:36.10 | slux | how can i calibrate the mouse in openmoko under qemu? |
| 21:39.03 | xaid | slux: i found this on the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ts_calibrate |
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| 21:40.20 | balrog-kun | run ts_calibrate |
| 21:40.45 | balrog-kun | (just like on a neo1973) |
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| 21:41.06 | Ghiottone | how do I ask bitbake to built a package_cvs.bb instead of package_0.0.1.bb ? |
| 21:41.49 | PITABoy | hi all |
| 21:43.12 | PITABoy | does anyone know anything about the new qualcomm msm7500 processor/chipset |
| 21:46.14 | slux | xaid thanks! :) |
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| 21:47.18 | pH5 | PITABoy: afaik not much is known publicly, some people with htc msm7x00 devices have started gathering information. watch the xda-developers wiki pages for titan/mogul/kaiser etc. and/or check out #htc-linux |
| 21:47.45 | PITABoy | thanks for the channel i will look there |
| 21:48.47 | PITABoy | I know that openmoko will boot on any kernel the only problem is knowing which arm11 sub arch to use |
| 21:55.05 | PITABoy | does openmoko have kernel snapshots or do i have to download the code via cvs |
| 21:55.21 | pH5 | openmoko the distro can be compiled for any arch you like, be it x86_64 or armv6. the main core of msm7x00 is arm1136j(f)-s, if you can trust http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture |
| 21:56.14 | PITABoy | i found that out by looking at freescale's version of the 7500 |
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| 21:56.42 | PITABoy | they are more forthcomming with information |
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| 22:38.27 | PP|Spydon | gn |
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