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| 00:18.33 | anders_ | I've started prototyping my openmoko xmms2 remote control: http://people.0x63.nu/~andersg/x2remote.3gp |
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| 01:25.14 | xzcvczx | thanks ckuethe now i am acutally getting somehwere |
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| 02:09.39 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03andrew * r3344 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/ (download.sh env): Get the latest builds from buildhost again. |
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| 02:37.45 | ckuethe | np |
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| 02:47.32 | xzcvczx | lol has anyone heard of "smoots" as a measure of distance before? |
| 02:48.01 | madwoota | Ask Wiki |
| 02:48.45 | Henryk | which wiki? |
| 02:48.53 | xzcvczx | madwoota: i was just wondering whether anyone had heard of it befroe |
| 02:48.57 | xzcvczx | before* |
| 02:49.05 | Henryk | You have: 1 smoot |
| 02:49.05 | Henryk | Unknown unit 'smoot' |
| 02:49.52 | Henryk | .oO(Though, of course, "1.79 * 10^12 furlongs per fortnight -- it's not just a good idea, it's the law!") |
| 02:50.18 | xzcvczx | The smoot is a nonstandard unit of length created as part of an MIT fraternity prank. |
| 02:50.22 | xzcvczx | lol |
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| 02:52.17 | xzcvczx | lol read the wikipedia page on the smoot |
| 02:52.40 | madwoota | yeh, heh :) |
| 02:53.05 | madwoota | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humorous_units_of_measurement |
| 02:53.42 | ckuethe | puppy! |
| 02:53.47 | xzcvczx | the mile and foot and inch should be added on their |
| 02:53.50 | xzcvczx | there* |
| 02:53.53 | ckuethe | what's the conversion from puppies to kittens |
| 02:54.07 | Henryk | "Oliver Smoot later became Chairman of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI)[3] and President of the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). [4]" |
| 02:55.43 | xzcvczx | :o |
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| 02:57.26 | xzcvczx | lol that reminds me of the best quote from futurama "dont be stupid you can't go faster than the speed of light, yeah we know hence why in <insert arbitary year here> scientists made the speed of light faster |
| 02:57.29 | xzcvczx | " |
| 02:57.48 | Henryk | *gg* |
| 02:58.48 | madwoota | does that make the universe younger or older ? |
| 02:59.14 | xzcvczx | older |
| 02:59.35 | oc2k1 | move the universe not the ship ..... P |
| 02:59.47 | xzcvczx | oc2k1: yup another one |
| 03:00.01 | madwoota | much easier to just bring your detsination to you rather than go to it |
| 03:00.04 | madwoota | so inefficient |
| 03:00.47 | xzcvczx | lol if you got a bit catapult and launched yourself into space and came back down you would have effectively done that |
| 03:00.56 | xzcvczx | waited for your location to come to you |
| 03:01.13 | xzcvczx | and would be a damn sight faster than doing the same on a plane |
| 03:01.36 | madwoota | using mutual mass attraction is cheating |
| 03:01.45 | xzcvczx | lol why? |
| 03:01.56 | xzcvczx | i wonder what uses more energy |
| 03:02.00 | madwoota | because it only has one direction |
| 03:02.20 | xzcvczx | madwoota: lol you wait 24hrs and your back at the start :P |
| 03:03.19 | Henryk | since the earth is moving around the sun and the sun is moving around the center of the galaxy and the galaxy is moving who-knows-where: no, you're not. |
| 03:03.35 | Henryk | there's a deeper meaning in here: You can never go back! |
| 03:03.48 | xzcvczx | well you can but you will be very lonely |
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| 06:00.11 | sparq | xzcvczx: It wasn't exactly a prank. It was, I think, part of an assignment for his class. He gave an assignment along the lines of "Measure the length of the Longfellow bridge using a unit system of your own devising." So, his class decided to use their professor as the unit. |
| 06:02.59 | xzcvczx | just pasting what was on wikipedia |
| 06:08.08 | sparq | Take that with a grain of salt, though. That's how it was explained to me at orientation. |
| 06:09.50 | sparq | If you walk down the Longfellow bridge, you will see markings that say, "1 Smoot, 2 Smoots.... 285 Smoots..." |
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| 06:11.46 | xzcvczx | well based on what wikipedia said it was a student not a professors height as they actually used him for measuring it |
| 06:12.16 | sparq | I couldn't tell you which is accurate. |
| 06:12.23 | xzcvczx | meh |
| 06:13.58 | sparq | The other MIT/bridge story is that when the Massachusetts Ave. bridge the connects Cambridge and Boston was just completed, some structural engineers from MIT took a look at it, and found that it was a terribly flawed design. So, they recommended that the bridge be called "The Harvard Bridge," Even though it's literally on MIT's doorstep. So, that's what it's called. |
| 06:16.16 | xzcvczx | lol |
| 06:16.23 | MLP | haha |
| 06:18.08 | sparq | Five years later, when it nearly fell into the Charles, Harvard figured out why MIT had given up the naming rights, and they were Not Amused. |
| 06:18.49 | sparq | There was a great puffing of cheeks and rumpling of cardigans. |
| 06:19.23 | sparq | Meaningful Looks were exchanged. |
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| 06:20.07 | sparq | The bridge still sucks. |
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| 06:46.35 | xzcvczx | gah my neo's too flat at the moment can anyone remember which menu the change orientation is in? |
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| 06:53.32 | xzcvczx | :o they do it bu using the command :S |
| 06:53.43 | xzcvczx | s/bu/by |
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| 07:27.22 | sparq | Run succeeds -> Shot; Run fails -> Shot+debugging |
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| 07:39.37 | doc|home | what's PCS? |
| 07:39.47 | doc|home | re: 850mhz "It would be illegal for FIC to sell the device in the US with it activated. BT and PCS is the only approved band currently." |
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| 07:45.32 | daMaestro | PCS is like "sprint" |
| 07:45.57 | doc|home | ah, so, suck |
| 07:45.58 | doc|home | ;) |
| 07:46.02 | daMaestro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Communications_Service |
| 07:46.49 | doc|home | any idea why there's a problem |
| 07:46.50 | doc|home | ? |
| 07:48.13 | daMaestro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_ranges#GSM-1900 is "PCS" |
| 07:48.38 | doc|home | yeah, so I've read :/ |
| 07:48.47 | doc|home | so it's single band, rather than dual band |
| 07:49.42 | daMaestro | i have no idea what the issue would be |
| 07:50.47 | daMaestro | http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml seems to be a lot of 850 carriers |
| 07:52.42 | daMaestro | hmm my prepay gsm is out :-/ |
| 07:54.26 | daMaestro | umm.. is there any way i can set the correct date? |
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| 08:05.59 | daMaestro | hmm something went wrong with my ipkg update :-/ |
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| 08:11.35 | daMaestro | wowzers! gsm network connected... and the panel icons actually show a connection and a phone call works right away. |
| 08:11.40 | daMaestro | good. work. |
| 08:11.40 | doc|home | :) |
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| 08:46.58 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:48.08 | mbuf | Hopscotch, good morning |
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| 11:51.49 | raddy | Any stable snapshots released? |
| 11:52.59 | abraxa_ | Define stable |
| 11:53.21 | raddy | abraxa_: working gsm |
| 11:53.52 | abraxa_ | Well, grab a fresh rootfs and try |
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| 11:54.42 | raddy | abraxa_: doesn't anybody know about the latest gsmd status |
| 11:56.06 | abraxa_ | What's there to know? |
| 11:56.33 | abraxa_ | Everything is in flux so no one can make definite statements on whether things work for everyone or not |
| 12:04.27 | dcordes | could somebody check if fontconfig is building? |
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| 12:08.33 | dcordes | I think there is a problem with fetching a file called "device_sybols.h" |
| 12:09.57 | abraxa_ | Sounds like a typo to me |
| 12:11.20 | dcordes | abraxa_: no idea since I get no logs |
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| 12:11.29 | dcordes | abraxa_: does it fetch for you? |
| 12:11.58 | abraxa_ | I'm afraid I can't check right now, sorry |
| 12:12.01 | dcordes | k |
| 12:12.24 | atul | Hi, I Updating the environment of openmoko Build 2007.2, Last step "make update-makefile && make setup update openmoko-devel-image" gives Problem Is there any build failure problem |
| 12:12.32 | dcordes | I got the file manually anyways and made a bug |
| 12:12.48 | abraxa_ | dcordes: In OE or OM bugzilla? |
| 12:12.55 | abraxa_ | atul: What package fails? |
| 12:12.56 | dcordes | abraxa_: OE |
| 12:13.02 | abraxa_ | dcordes: Good, thanks :) |
| 12:13.09 | dcordes | I have no OM account right now |
| 12:13.18 | atul | abraxa, package openmoko-today2-0.1.0+svnr3287-r2: task do_fetch: failed |
| 12:13.21 | abraxa_ | dcordes: That bug belongs to OE anyway |
| 12:13.45 | abraxa_ | atul: Yes, others report issues with openmoko-today also |
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| 12:14.35 | atul | abraxa, does it means it is problem with build environment |
| 12:14.51 | abraxa_ | atul: No, your environment is probably fine |
| 12:15.02 | dcordes | abraxa_: are only openmoko specific problems posted to OM bugzilla? like openmoko-* recipe problems? |
| 12:15.12 | abraxa_ | dcordes: Yep |
| 12:15.17 | dcordes | good |
| 12:15.23 | fgau | atul: i hve the same error |
| 12:15.32 | atul | abraxz, Ok means i can test my application on my environment |
| 12:15.54 | atul | fgau, can you compile and build any application |
| 12:16.00 | dcordes | I can't wait checking new openmoko improvements. |
| 12:16.31 | dcordes | is there any instructions on creating own repositories upon OE in moko wiki? |
| 12:17.22 | fgau | atul: jep, but not openmoko-today2 |
| 12:17.34 | atul | fgau, ok |
| 12:18.44 | mickeyl | morning |
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| 12:21.31 | abraxa_ | Sers mickey |
| 12:26.01 | Sup3rkiddo | cool..laforge and zecke are coming to foss.in, would be nice to have a chat with 'em |
| 12:26.45 | mickeyl | Sup3rkiddo: how do you know? |
| 12:27.15 | Sup3rkiddo | mickeyl: thats why they call me Sup3rkiddo..:P |
| 12:27.35 | Sup3rkiddo | mickeyl: bah, the final speakers lists are out |
| 12:27.38 | mickeyl | heh |
| 12:27.39 | mickeyl | right |
| 12:27.45 | mickeyl | i have a mission for zecke then |
| 12:27.48 | mickeyl | ~seen zecke |
| 12:27.49 | apt | zecke <n=ich@dsl-62-220-14-162.berlikomm.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 21h 57m 40s ago, saying: 'moin'. |
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| 12:30.28 | Sup3rkiddo | mickeyl: internal issues? or a plot to assasinate me? |
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| 12:37.42 | mickeyl | heheh |
| 12:37.43 | mickeyl | internal |
| 12:38.26 | Sup3rkiddo | wokay, ph3ww! |
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| 12:42.37 | oohayulin | Is there any articles about openmoko's installation on zaurus? |
| 12:43.26 | mickeyl | no, basically once you have an openmoko image built, you install it like GPE or Opie images. |
| 12:43.45 | mickeyl | depending on the actual zaurus model, it's uploading to a SD/CF and then doing some magic key combinations |
| 12:51.26 | Ghiottone | lol! I have been randomly selected as a sourceforge project leader for a survey and the second prize is a Neo :) |
| 12:52.17 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 12:52.19 | abraxa_ | haha nice :) |
| 12:52.24 | mickeyl | which survey? |
| 12:52.40 | mickeyl | something from switzerland? |
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| 12:54.01 | Ghiottone | Scientific study of Swiss university on software patents and the osso project still open (sg) |
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| 12:54.48 | oohayulin | ok, thank you for your explaination. let me think about it.:) |
| 12:55.15 | mickeyl | aha, right |
| 12:55.22 | mickeyl | i'm the sponsor of this prize |
| 12:55.24 | mickeyl | :) |
| 12:55.38 | abraxa_ | Smart move ;) |
| 12:55.51 | mickeyl | yes, i felt it to be an important survey |
| 12:56.00 | mickeyl | so i'll support that personally |
| 12:56.21 | Ghiottone | eheh. I'm looking at it right now |
| 12:58.24 | Ghiottone | it seems it's very well done. |
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| 12:58.57 | Sup3rkiddo | Ghiottone: lucky you!! |
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| 12:59.09 | Sup3rkiddo | ~lart Ghiottone |
| 12:59.09 | apt | rm -rf's Ghiottone |
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| 12:59.46 | Ghiottone | ehehe |
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| 13:10.21 | cb22 | Ghiottone, lol, lucky you! |
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| 13:14.57 | Ghiottone | hey it's just a survey, I did not win anything, yet :) |
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| 13:29.18 | CIA-13 | openmoko: 03abraxa * r3345 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-mediaplayer2/src/ (playlist.c playlist_page.c): |
| 13:29.18 | CIA-13 | openmoko: Make the playlist creation GtkEntry clear itself again after file creation |
| 13:29.18 | CIA-13 | openmoko: Load the first added track immediately if playlist was empty |
| 13:29.48 | mickeyl | yeah |
| 13:29.49 | mickeyl | polish |
| 13:32.18 | abraxa_ | mickeyl: Wrong chan? :) |
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| 13:35.47 | cb22 | mickeyl, the mokoninja videos look really cool :) |
| 13:35.55 | mickeyl | thanks :) |
| 13:36.11 | zipola | I liked them too. |
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| 13:36.39 | mickeyl | next batch somewhere early next year |
| 13:36.51 | cb22 | do you think the browser is going to get finger scrolling soon? |
| 13:37.10 | mickeyl | i don't know. that's complicated |
| 13:37.26 | cb22 | due to the fact that there are things you can click on and the like? |
| 13:37.29 | mickeyl | yep |
| 13:37.35 | mickeyl | think google maps |
| 13:37.39 | cb22 | yeah |
| 13:37.39 | mickeyl | you can scroll the google map |
| 13:37.47 | mickeyl | how should mokofingerscroll know that |
| 13:37.49 | mickeyl | needs extending |
| 13:37.54 | cb22 | indeed |
| 13:38.04 | cb22 | i was pretty suprised at its speed though |
| 13:38.08 | cb22 | it seem rather fast |
| 13:38.09 | abraxa_ | cb22: As of now the viewport widget doesn't support horizontal finger scrolling either so that would need to happen first, too |
| 13:38.31 | mickeyl | yeah, it was really fast |
| 13:38.45 | mickeyl | on gta02 it will rock ;) |
| 13:38.49 | cb22 | indeed |
| 13:38.56 | cb22 | with 2d accel and 400mhz processor |
| 13:40.01 | cb22 | mickeyl, i don't suppose you know if the shipping costs for 02 will be the same as for 01? |
| 13:41.02 | mickeyl | not involved with logistics, but it's unlikely |
| 13:41.24 | mickeyl | for gta02 we will have at least one shipping hub IIRC |
| 13:41.30 | mickeyl | (one additional) |
| 13:41.35 | cb22 | cool |
| 13:41.36 | Ghiottone | in europe? |
| 13:41.39 | mickeyl | yep |
| 13:41.46 | cb22 | shipping to south africa for gta01 is $100 :/ |
| 13:41.53 | cjb_ie | mickeyl: that's a major yay |
| 13:41.54 | mickeyl | ya, that's insane |
| 13:42.12 | mickeyl | when i was in .tw i have seen that the logistics guys will revamp the shopping and shipping system for 02 |
| 13:43.00 | mickeyl | for 01 everything was pretty ad-hoc and manual |
| 13:43.35 | cb22 | nice, /me hopes to get one from the first batch... as does everyone i suppose :) |
| 13:44.23 | SpeedEvil | Ebay store FTW! |
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| 13:46.38 | Ghiottone | is there any interest in having my ipkgorphan program in OE? if there is, I'll work on a new recipe to fetch the code from projects.OM.org |
| 13:46.53 | Ghiottone | if not, I'll work on other things :) |
| 13:48.12 | mickeyl | what is ipkgorphan? |
| 13:48.56 | Vegar | similar to deborphan I suppose |
| 13:49.04 | Ghiottone | it does the same as deborphan (although much more simple) |
| 13:49.48 | Ghiottone | it search the installed packages list and reports the leaf (i.e. what you can remove without breaking other dependencies) |
| 13:50.33 | Ghiottone | useful if you install program a that requires liba |
| 13:50.46 | Ghiottone | when you remove program a, liba remain installed |
| 13:50.53 | mickeyl | cool |
| 13:50.57 | mickeyl | sounds interesting |
| 13:51.14 | Ghiottone | :) |
| 13:51.15 | mickeyl | please submit that to the OE bugzilla |
| 13:51.28 | Ghiottone | I did it some time ago |
| 13:51.36 | Ghiottone | I'll recover the bug # |
| 13:51.40 | mickeyl | yep, thanks |
| 13:52.51 | Ghiottone | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2954 |
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| 13:53.17 | Ghiottone | after that, I got a project for it on projects.openmoko.org |
| 13:53.32 | Ghiottone | I was thinking about changing the recipe to fetch the source code from there |
| 13:53.55 | mickeyl | ya |
| 13:53.59 | mickeyl | makes more sense not to have it in OE |
| 13:54.06 | mickeyl | (the source) |
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| 13:54.45 | Ghiottone | ok |
| 13:54.47 | mickeyl | i think it's a cool utility. i'll commit it asap when you have the new download URI |
| 13:55.03 | Ghiottone | great |
| 13:55.04 | mickeyl | perhaps add a small Makefile as well |
| 13:55.34 | Ghiottone | ok. it should be pretty simple. I'll contact you when it's ready |
| 13:55.40 | mickeyl | cool |
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| 14:01.33 | Ghiottone | mickeyl, if you want to have a look at it in the meanwhile I think there is a package on my feed (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Alessandro#My_Package_Repository) |
| 14:01.46 | mickeyl | will do, thanks |
| 14:02.42 | Ghiottone | np :) |
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| 14:13.53 | techindian | any virtual serial port emulator available for linux.... |
| 14:14.59 | morricone | something like netcat? |
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| 14:15.42 | techindian | something like serial loopback.. |
| 14:15.53 | techindian | like com0com for windows.. |
| 14:16.40 | Vegar | what do you want it to do? |
| 14:16.47 | Vegar | just echo back what you print to it? |
| 14:17.18 | techindian | to test my code without the actual serial device.. |
| 14:17.42 | morricone | that's what pipes are for ;) |
| 14:17.45 | mickeyl | bbiab, dist-upgrade |
| 14:18.01 | techindian | Creating two serial ports (/dev/ttyloopS1, /dev/ttyloopS2) which pass data between each other so (for example) I can run a 'getty' session connected to one(ttyloopS1), and talk to is via a minicom on the other(ttyloopS2) |
| 14:19.25 | Vegar | should be fairly easy |
| 14:19.39 | techindian | how to do it.. |
| 14:19.59 | Vegar | I have no idea |
| 14:24.40 | anrp | :/ |
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| 14:41.35 | anrp | techindian: http://anrp.net/sloop.tgz |
| 14:41.47 | anrp | just wrote that, sets up two ptys that forward data back and forth |
| 14:41.59 | anrp | anrp@atocha ~/sloop $ ./sloop |
| 14:41.59 | anrp | Slave 1 is /dev/pts/45, Slave 2 is /dev/pts/46 |
| 14:42.05 | anrp | ^ are the two "serial ports" |
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| 14:43.10 | techindian | anrp: Thanks. let me check it. |
| 14:43.38 | anrp | !! |
| 14:43.41 | anrp | oops, bug |
| 14:44.30 | anrp | updated, md5 of tgz is 60f09d50ac3bbd028662ff217750096b |
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| 14:49.56 | anrp | it'll peg your cpu if one side "hangs up", since theres no rate limiting ... |
| 14:50.35 | techindian | anrp: but how does a component like minicom use this.. u need some fixed /dev/* ? |
| 14:50.58 | anrp | /dev/pts/$n is a tty as far as the kernel is concerned |
| 14:51.09 | anrp | just start minicom with -s and dont save settings |
| 14:51.33 | techindian | yes.. with /dev/pts/45? |
| 14:51.37 | anrp | yes |
| 14:51.40 | anrp | well, whatever it prints out |
| 14:51.47 | techindian | k.. |
| 14:51.55 | techindian | let me try.. |
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| 14:52.58 | anrp | mm, you might need to add -lpthread to the makefile, depends on your system |
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| 15:00.02 | LordMhoram | good morning? |
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| 15:00.24 | techindian | its works fine. but not gettting a new line |
| 15:00.30 | anrp | ? |
| 15:00.35 | techindian | \n |
| 15:00.46 | anrp | minicom only sends \r by default |
| 15:01.05 | techindian | for enter? |
| 15:01.13 | anrp | control-A then A to add \n |
| 15:01.14 | anrp | yeah |
| 15:01.44 | techindian | u r right.. |
| 15:01.45 | anrp | it'll then send "\r\n" |
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| 15:02.13 | techindian | how can fix the /dev/pts/* |
| 15:02.19 | emre_ | Hey folks, I have a question, can I enforce neo to fast charge from a dumb usb charger and does it harm the device? |
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| 15:02.30 | anrp | fix.. you mean make permanent? |
| 15:02.36 | techindian | yes.. |
| 15:02.46 | anrp | you can't really, but you can wrap a script around sloop to make links |
| 15:02.46 | anrp | sec |
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| 15:04.50 | emre_ | There is a line in wiki saying echo -n "fast_cccv" > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgmode, but I want to be sure that does not harm the device before trying it. |
| 15:08.11 | mjr | at most it'll harm the device that supplies the power :] |
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| 15:08.42 | techindian | anrp: thanks. you saved my time. this was the one i am exactly looking at.. |
| 15:08.59 | emre_ | mjr: ok, trying :) |
| 15:10.20 | LordMhoram | I"m trying to build today (mokomakefile) and it is dying on "openmoko-today2" -- no providers. Ideas? |
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| 15:11.23 | mjr | anyway, nice to hear that fast_cccv forcing is supported |
| 15:11.32 | mjr | (for my portable battery...) |
| 15:12.40 | emre_ | mjr: It seems, working. At least a red light is shown on the charger when I say fast.. |
| 15:12.53 | anrp | techindian: alright, another update, md5 d1269557466ec24843931a7b119a16f7, same location |
| 15:13.02 | anrp | run sloop.sh from within the sloop directory |
| 15:13.03 | anrp | like so: |
| 15:13.05 | emre_ | mjr: Well, on the charger it says output is 650 mA. So I think, that won't harm the device.. |
| 15:13.13 | anrp | sh sloop.sh /dev/ttyfake0 /dev/ttyfake1 |
| 15:13.17 | anrp | that should be it D: |
| 15:13.54 | anrp | you probably have to do it as root to create those ttyfake links |
| 15:14.19 | mjr | emre_, yeah, mostly it'd harm the charger if it couldn't supply 500 mA and didn't deal smartly with devices that try to take it |
| 15:15.10 | emre_ | Well, do you guys think we should put an option for enforcing the 500 mA charging on the GUI? |
| 15:15.29 | Vegar | I think that sounds potentially dangerous |
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| 15:16.10 | mjr | I think a third-party widget for that would be nice, but not by default. |
| 15:16.28 | mjr | (Or hmm. Well, whatever.) |
| 15:16.39 | emre_ | i'm thinking a pop-up menu when you click on the charger icon on the panel.. |
| 15:16.46 | mjr | the widget should also disable forced fast as soon as it's disconnected from power |
| 15:17.00 | emre_ | mjr: it does. |
| 15:17.05 | Sup3rkiddo | ooh, someone forgot to change something upstream or is it my box thats dorky? | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-base: |
| 15:17.05 | Sup3rkiddo | | libgsmd-devel (>= 0.1+svnr3293) |
| 15:17.05 | Sup3rkiddo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.07 | mjr | okay |
| 15:17.10 | anrp | software controlled h-bridges are the best, if you're unlucky you can short the power rails across low Rdson mosfets |
| 15:17.15 | anrp | letting out the magic smoke :D |
| 15:17.27 | mjr | that's good |
| 15:17.30 | emre_ | when i plug it off and replug it in it starts with slow mode. |
| 15:17.39 | techindian | anrp: it works.. |
| 15:17.51 | anrp | alright then D: |
| 15:25.23 | Ghiottone | Sup3rkiddo, I have a bunch of those messages too |
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| 15:29.36 | Sup3rkiddo | hmm, dang |
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| 15:30.03 | Sup3rkiddo | Ghiottone: might as well a file a bug report..what say j00? |
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| 15:35.43 | LordMhoram | anyone else having problems building current version? I'm getting "No providers of runtime build target openmoko-today2..." |
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| 15:42.07 | mockenh_ | LordMhoram: same prob here, I'll let you know if I find a solution |
| 15:42.40 | LordMhoram | cool. sometime you never know if your just being stupid. :) |
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| 15:44.20 | LordMhoram | that method no longer works for me. :) |
| 15:45.38 | Ghiottone | Sup3rkiddo, don't know. there are simply too many packages. Also it seems that only the final image is not built for me. I can ipkg-upgrade to the latest packages |
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| 15:52.24 | Sup3rkiddo | mm..same here, only the final stage not gettomg built |
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| 16:06.46 | cb22 | http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=957 |
| 16:06.46 | cb22 | interesting |
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| 16:07.09 | cb22 | along with |
| 16:07.09 | cb22 | http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=956 |
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| 16:07.58 | cb22 | so how long would a neo take to charge with 1000ma? |
| 16:13.06 | anrp | depends on how much you like to play with fire |
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| 16:13.21 | anrp | but lithium has high coloumb efficiency so it should be close to twice |
| 16:13.28 | Vegar | cb22: very very interesting |
| 16:13.42 | cb22 | anrp, was that pun intended :) |
| 16:14.15 | anrp | lithium batteries used in medium drain apps are usually rated for 0.2C charge, 1C discharge |
| 16:14.20 | anrp | i dunno the specs on the battery the neo uses |
| 16:14.32 | SpeedEvil | Unlikely. |
| 16:14.38 | SpeedEvil | 0.2C is a 5 hour charge |
| 16:14.45 | Ghiottone | mickeyl, ping |
| 16:14.50 | SpeedEvil | Even the neo (when off) greatly exceeds that. |
| 16:14.50 | anrp | well, i've only worked with large batteries |
| 16:14.57 | SpeedEvil | 5 hour is lead-acid |
| 16:15.02 | anrp | hundreds of watt hours :/ just going by that |
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| 16:15.31 | anrp | maybe they're rated 1c charge, 2c discharge? |
| 16:15.51 | anrp | that seems to be what newer non-high-drain lithium cells are |
| 16:16.17 | SpeedEvil | 2.5 hours or so is about what the neo charges ATM |
| 16:16.19 | SpeedEvil | (when off) |
| 16:16.24 | emre_ | does anybody use gutsy? |
| 16:16.33 | SpeedEvil | (0.4C) |
| 16:16.37 | cb22 | SpeedEvil, 2.5 hours? thats pretty good |
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| 16:16.52 | SpeedEvil | When on, it's rather more |
| 16:17.26 | cb22 | true, so one could assume that with 1000mA you could charge in 3 hours or so while on? |
| 16:18.01 | SpeedEvil | More like 1-1.5 hour |
| 16:18.14 | cb22 | haha, sweet |
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| 16:26.36 | Ghiottone | mickeyl, I have updated ipkgorphan with new recipe and a very simple Makefile. All info are on http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2954 |
| 16:27.46 | guaqua | what kind of run-times per full battery charge do you get for neo nowadays? |
| 16:27.56 | anrp | are you seriously expecting users to replace the battery when it gets low? |
| 16:29.30 | Ghiottone | well I think I'll have to replace it when software will become useful as it has spent most of its time to a charger :/ |
| 16:29.56 | Ghiottone | s/time/time attached/ |
| 16:31.34 | mwester | anrp: I can only comment on my behavior, and I have multiple batteries for my phones, and replace the battery whenever the phone needs charging and I lack time to do so. No big deal. |
| 16:32.10 | mwester | Certainly not worth risking damage to the battery or charging circuitry... |
| 16:32.11 | guaqua | emre_: i use gutsy |
| 16:32.18 | anrp | ok then ~_~ |
| 16:32.39 | anrp | just saying that i don't think most people do that ... not even with laptops |
| 16:32.45 | emre_ | guaqua: can you send me the sources.list file, I just deleted mine accidentally :( |
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| 16:37.07 | guaqua | emre_: http://kapsi.fi/~che/sources.list |
| 16:37.37 | emre_ | guaqua: thanks a lot. |
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| 16:38.32 | guaqua | emre_: no prob |
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| 16:47.46 | emre_ | Does "Developing with MokoMakefile" wiki entry correct? |
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| 16:55.13 | emre_ | specifically this one: cd $OMDIR/openmoko |
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| 19:11.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 986 has been created by krzysiek(AT)bielicki.pl |
| 19:11.02 | cdbot2 | * * ing new event not intuitive |
| 19:11.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=986 |
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| 19:33.40 | emre | I want to make some changes in one of the openmoko applications, compile it and generate an ipkg file. Install it on the neo. Generate a patch to send to bugzilla or mailing list. How can I do it, is it written in somewhere? |
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| 19:35.24 | GNUtoo | hello,is there a software wishlist on the wiki?(i would like to have a 'hide my number' feature but per person) |
| 19:36.24 | abraxa__ | GNUtoo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist |
| 19:36.42 | GNUtoo | abraxa__, thanks |
| 19:37.17 | abraxa__ | V8... |
| 19:37.19 | cb22 | including the v8 |
| 19:37.23 | cb22 | lol |
| 19:37.25 | cb22 | beat me to it |
| 19:37.27 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 19:37.29 | abraxa__ | haha ;D |
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| 19:37.36 | mjr | Ooh, qvga mpeg1 runs quite nicely now. Even tolerable, though a bit choppy, when rotated. |
| 19:37.59 | cb22 | what was playing in that okld video? |
| 19:38.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 987 has been created by obri(AT)chaostreff.ch |
| 19:38.01 | cdbot2 | * * text field creates multible enries |
| 19:38.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=987 |
| 19:38.16 | jeddy3 | mjr, from where do you get kernel with that patch? mwesters? |
| 19:38.18 | cb22 | whats with cdbot2 |
| 19:38.23 | cb22 | its cutting the first bits off |
| 19:38.28 | GNUtoo | by the way why don't we add a link for the wishlist page on the main wiki page? |
| 19:38.42 | abraxa__ | mjr: It's actually smooth if it doesn't need to be scaled |
| 19:38.53 | cb22 | what about mpeg4? |
| 19:39.06 | abraxa__ | Smooth, too |
| 19:39.08 | mjr | jeddy3, misunderstanding; my screen is not actually in qvga mode |
| 19:39.14 | mjr | though I'd like it to be ;) |
| 19:39.39 | cb22 | 320x240 is enough for videos |
| 19:39.51 | cb22 | on my ipaq it was dead sharp |
| 19:39.58 | cb22 | sure, 640x480 would still be nice though :) |
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| 19:40.50 | mjr | abraxa__, yeah this was a "natively" qvga mpeg1 |
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| 19:44.31 | emre | Just to be sure, it is received: I want to make some changes in one of the openmoko applications, compile it and generate an ipkg file. Install it on the neo. Generate a patch to send to bugzilla or mailing list. How can I do it, is it written in somewhere? |
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| 19:48.53 | abraxa__ | emre: Nope, you can do it manually however |
| 19:49.51 | josch | hi! I just did make openmoko-devel-image and worked around the openmoko-today2 problem by editing sane-srcrevs.inc just to get another error a few hundred packages later: " src/libtaku/Makefile.am:19: HAVE_INOTIFY does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL" openmoko-dates2 tak do_configure failed |
| 19:50.21 | josch | does anyone also have this problem? and knows how to work around it? |
| 19:50.22 | emre | how, manually? I changed a file in /openmoko/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/.. and make rebuild-package but it does not work. |
| 19:51.05 | josch | emre: I edited openembedded/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc |
| 19:51.16 | josch | emre: I changed teh following lines: |
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| 19:51.39 | josch | SRCREV_pn-openmoko-today2 ?= "3342" |
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| 19:51.47 | abraxa__ | emre: make build-package-foo; cd build/tmp/work/arm4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/foo; [do your changes in the sources] |
| 19:52.05 | abraxa__ | emre: Then compile and build ipkg with |
| 19:52.26 | emre | the openmoko applications are not there.. at least the battery applet is not extracted there. |
| 19:53.33 | abraxa__ | Yeah it is |
| 19:53.44 | abraxa__ | They are in matchbox-panel |
| 19:55.01 | emre | so should I make make build-package-matchbox-panel ? |
| 19:55.31 | abraxa_ | Yup |
| 19:55.49 | emre | hmm, interesting. why? |
| 19:55.58 | abraxa_ | So you have all the sources unpacked |
| 19:56.12 | emre | ok, i'm trying. |
| 19:56.16 | abraxa_ | Okay :) |
| 19:57.13 | emre | meanwhile what about the lines in openembedded/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc. what should I do there? |
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| 19:58.14 | josch | emre: I wrote this before |
| 19:58.29 | josch | SRCREV_pn-openmoko-today2 ?= "3342" |
| 19:58.30 | josch | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.11 | josch | I also did: rm -rf sources/svn/* |
| 20:00.53 | cb22 | abraxa_, why abraxa_ and not abraxa? |
| 20:01.12 | abraxa_ | Cause some guy took abraxa already :( |
| 20:01.14 | ewon | nickserv |
| 20:01.18 | ewon | at a guest |
| 20:02.07 | josch | abraxa_: did you ask a staff member if abraxa is currently in active use? |
| 20:02.42 | cb22 | it is |
| 20:02.45 | cb22 | being used right now |
| 20:03.38 | abraxa_ | Yeah, so whatever, abraxa_ works for me, too :) |
| 20:03.41 | cb22 | hehe |
| 20:04.32 | abraxa_ | I am, I am ;) |
| 20:04.41 | josch | yeah! make it support theora!! |
| 20:04.43 | cb22 | hehe |
| 20:04.51 | cb22 | i want a amarok equiv pls :) |
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| 20:05.59 | doc|home | rhythmbox may work with a little tweaking, it's gtk |
| 20:06.21 | josch | rythmbox in 640x480??? |
| 20:06.34 | emre | there are no sources in build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/matchbox-panel-2-0.1+svnr1626-r8/ |
| 20:06.43 | emre | only a temp directory with scripts in it. |
| 20:07.15 | cb22 | weird... i like kde on my desktop but prefer gtk to qt on the phone |
| 20:07.59 | abraxa_ | emre: rm build/tmp/stamps/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/matchbox-panel-2-0.1+svnr1626-r8* |
| 20:08.13 | abraxa_ | Then try building again |
| 20:08.19 | cb22 | abraxa_, but seriously, really nice work on MP |
| 20:08.33 | abraxa_ | cb22: Thanks - I'll try to raise the bar ;) |
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| 20:09.31 | cb22 | how do you plan on doing cover art btw? |
| 20:10.09 | josch | rhythmbox in 640x480: http://rabenfrost.net/Screenshot-Music%20Player.png |
| 20:10.20 | abraxa_ | *cough* allcdcovers.com via GPRS/WLAN/BT/USB *cough* |
| 20:10.25 | cb22 | lol |
| 20:10.50 | cb22 | josch, that looks _so_ usable with a finger </sarcasim> |
| 20:10.55 | josch | ^^ |
| 20:10.55 | cb22 | although it is cool |
| 20:10.56 | abraxa_ | Yeah, didn't find a better page... |
| 20:11.14 | cb22 | amazon? |
| 20:12.04 | cb22 | something fast, really really insainly fast |
| 20:12.14 | abraxa_ | Okay. Seriously. How the F*** can I bring mplayer to F***** scale down the video clips? " mplayer -framedrop -noslices -pp 0 -sws 0 -vf rotate=2 -screenh 320 -screenw 240 -zoom -vo fbdev -quiet /media/card/test.mpg" simply does not work nor does anything else I tried. |
| 20:12.19 | emre | no, still not there. |
| 20:12.31 | josch | cb22: there was a video with mickeyl where he is demonstrating some really fast viewer app for pics |
| 20:12.32 | abraxa_ | cb22: I... might? ;) |
| 20:12.34 | cb22 | how about mplayer -vf scale=320:240? |
| 20:12.47 | mjr | yeah, what cb said |
| 20:13.03 | mjr | (mplayer's ui sucks even more than the rest, yes) |
| 20:13.06 | cb22 | like that webkit demo from mickeyl |
| 20:13.14 | cb22 | that blew my mind away :) |
| 20:13.32 | cb22 | i expected hideously slow, the screen updating line by line type of thing :) |
| 20:13.57 | abraxa_ | Wow, that option was well hidden. Thanks! |
| 20:14.08 | cb22 | hehe, no problem |
| 20:14.13 | abraxa_ | Now let's hope it still retains the aspect ratio... |
| 20:14.20 | cb22 | probably not |
| 20:14.31 | abraxa_ | Well, if not then I'd be back to square one :); |
| 20:14.44 | josch | gogogo mplayer on moko!! |
| 20:14.52 | cb22 | how about -aspect |
| 20:14.55 | cb22 | or something like that |
| 20:15.20 | abraxa_ | "The aspect option must be a floating point number or a ratio" |
| 20:15.20 | cb22 | you could probably calculate the aspect based on the file |
| 20:15.27 | abraxa_ | Argl |
| 20:15.51 | abraxa_ | Actually I did refuse to believe mplayer would be too stupid to not be able to do this |
| 20:15.58 | abraxa_ | Slowly I wonder if it actually is... |
| 20:16.01 | cb22 | lol |
| 20:16.08 | cb22 | maybe ask on the MailingLists? |
| 20:17.44 | josch | ahr... back to my problem... does anybody know how my problem could be fixed? src/libtaku/Makefile.am:19: HAVE_INOTIFY does not appear in AM_CONDITIONAL" openmoko-dates2 tak do_configure failed |
| 20:18.07 | abraxa_ | josch: Did you bump the srcrev of openmoko-dates2, too? |
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| 20:18.49 | josch | nope - I left openmoko-dates2 as it was |
| 20:18.58 | abraxa_ | Might wanna try that :) |
| 20:19.04 | josch | grr... |
| 20:19.10 | josch | kk - will try |
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| 20:22.14 | cb22 | wow, things seem to have really being going well wit this project |
| 20:22.29 | josch | cb22: how do you figure? |
| 20:22.29 | cb22 | like so many entries in planet in the past 5 days |
| 20:22.37 | abraxa_ | Okay, with scaling we can have about 15~17FPS... so we might be able to reach 24FPS with GTA02 - time will tell |
| 20:22.37 | cb22 | the cool videos from mokoninja |
| 20:22.42 | cb22 | gta02 coming up soon |
| 20:22.47 | josch | wow, will check it out again now |
| 20:22.47 | cb22 | what abraxa_ just said |
| 20:22.54 | SpeedEvil | cb22: scaling from what? |
| 20:22.57 | SpeedEvil | abraxa_: |
| 20:22.59 | cb22 | the 1000ma wall charger |
| 20:23.10 | cb22 | the proper battery columb thingy |
| 20:23.17 | abraxa_ | SpeedEvil: 352x240 -> 320x240 |
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| 20:23.36 | abraxa_ | Without scaling we have 24FPS already |
| 20:23.54 | josch | abraxa_: this is great!! but it's MPEG1 ? |
| 20:24.01 | abraxa_ | Yeah but it's the same for MPEG4 |
| 20:24.14 | cb22 | hmm, what about h264? |
| 20:24.19 | cb22 | that impossible without hardware? |
| 20:24.33 | abraxa_ | No idea, I don't have h264 material I don't think |
| 20:24.43 | cb22 | encode some quick, give it a shot :) |
| 20:24.45 | josch | abraxa_: how do I fond out the latest revision for openmoko-dates2 ? |
| 20:25.00 | abraxa_ | cb22: I would but I'm too busy for that unfortunately |
| 20:25.07 | cb22 | ah, k |
| 20:25.08 | abraxa_ | I wanna get this stuff out the door ;) |
| 20:25.13 | cb22 | hehe |
| 20:25.43 | josch | abraxa_: if you want I can also send you a h264 video! |
| 20:26.48 | abraxa_ | josch: http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/dates/branches/openmoko2/ - 659 |
| 20:26.50 | abraxa_ | And sure |
| 20:28.46 | cb22 | hmm |
| 20:28.47 | cb22 | http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99402 |
| 20:29.14 | cb22 | gets ~75 fps on baseline |
| 20:29.18 | cb22 | thats a p3 800mhz |
| 20:29.22 | cb22 | at 700kbps |
| 20:30.42 | anrp | different architecture entirely |
| 20:30.47 | anrp | not that comparable... |
| 20:30.50 | cb22 | true |
| 20:31.06 | cb22 | lack of fpu big issue? |
| 20:31.42 | anrp | depends on the codec |
| 20:32.04 | cb22 | libavcodec in mplayer? |
| 20:34.24 | anrp | lavc is mostly integer |
| 20:34.56 | anrp | wma decider uses floats, ra288 |
| 20:35.01 | anrp | maybe a couple others |
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| 20:43.33 | cb22 | hello MichaelShiloh |
| 20:44.16 | josch | abraxa_: http://www.rabenfrost.net/video_h264.avi |
| 20:44.20 | abraxa_ | Danke :) |
| 20:44.50 | josch | ich danke!! |
| 20:44.52 | josch | argh |
| 20:45.01 | josch | this is not the german chan... |
| 20:45.04 | abraxa_ | ;) |
| 20:45.57 | josch | abraxa_: the trick with sane_srcrevs works again!! it seems to build now! |
| 20:46.06 | abraxa_ | josch: Uh... that clip... |
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| 20:46.43 | abraxa_ | http://pastebin.com/d2bd3a404 |
| 20:47.10 | josch | abraxa_: I LOVE this clip ^^ |
| 20:47.28 | abraxa_ | I might, too, if I could watch it |
| 20:47.31 | josch | abraxa_: my local mplayer plays it without problems |
| 20:47.32 | cb22 | lol |
| 20:47.55 | josch | even my mplayer mozilla plugin plays it ^^ |
| 20:48.07 | anrp | 5000? |
| 20:48.23 | josch | h264 is painful - both: encoding length AND the commandline: subq=6:partitions=all:8x8dct:me=umh:frameref=5:bframes=3:b_pyramid:weight_b |
| 20:48.38 | josch | anrp: yeah 5000 |
| 20:48.56 | josch | anrp: www.damanatus.com for more info |
| 20:49.00 | josch | damnatus |
| 20:49.22 | cb22 | a 200kbps h264 at 320x240 encoded 2 pass should be watchable |
| 20:50.36 | josch | cb22: my file is only 1 pass encoded with approx 1000kBit/s |
| 20:50.42 | cb22 | ouch |
| 20:50.48 | cb22 | i doubt a neo would play that |
| 20:50.51 | cb22 | maybe at like 5fps |
| 20:51.07 | josch | I also doubt that but someone has to try ^^ |
| 20:51.26 | josch | maybe I should encode several version like I did with theora |
| 20:51.28 | SpeedEvil | In general. |
| 20:51.44 | SpeedEvil | decoding all formats using mplayer |
| 20:51.54 | abraxa_ | anrp? |
| 20:51.54 | SpeedEvil | the lower the input bitrate the better |
| 20:52.01 | SpeedEvil | much over 150kbits/sec and it stalls |
| 20:52.06 | josch | ah okay |
| 20:52.07 | SpeedEvil | much over 150kbytes/sec and it stalls |
| 20:52.34 | cb22 | i will always encoded my videos at 120kb 2 pass 320x240 with 15fps |
| 20:52.50 | cb22 | have* |
| 20:52.55 | cb22 | wrong verb |
| 20:53.31 | anrp | you sure? 150kbyte/s is pretty high |
| 20:54.29 | cb22 | kbit |
| 20:55.04 | anrp | -> SpeedEvil |
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| 20:56.50 | SpeedEvil | anrp: it's vcd |
| 20:57.16 | SpeedEvil | anrp: most vcd-rate - not h.264, I diddn't test others - work ok |
| 20:57.22 | SpeedEvil | though they may skip the odd frame |
| 20:57.36 | abraxa_ | josch: "Error while decoding frame!" - fails to play on the Neo also |
| 20:58.27 | josch | abraxa_: why?? is ther no h264 decoder? |
| 20:58.56 | SpeedEvil | Anyone happen to have some test video? |
| 20:59.06 | SpeedEvil | I have a slightly faster - PII/300 laptop I can try it on |
| 20:59.08 | abraxa_ | SpeedEvil: To test what? |
| 20:59.18 | SpeedEvil | h.264 320*24 |
| 20:59.43 | abraxa_ | josch's http://www.rabenfrost.net/video_h264.avi should be what you want |
| 21:00.09 | josch | äh... the bitrate is quite too high |
| 21:00.19 | josch | will encode the same with 150kbit/s |
| 21:00.46 | anrp | oh |
| 21:00.47 | abraxa_ | Hmm that might be it |
| 21:00.51 | anrp | mpeg1/2 is easier to decode |
| 21:00.54 | SpeedEvil | That was 90% speed on PII/300 |
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| 21:08.28 | SpeedEvil | As a very rough guess - that's about 4* neo |
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| 21:55.55 | blinx | where I can get the source of the default keyboard in openmoko from? |
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| 22:07.50 | abraxa_ | blinx: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/matchbox/trunk/matchbox-keyboard/ |
| 22:12.01 | blinx | abraxa_: k thx |
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| 23:25.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 988 has been created by matt(AT)manjos.com |
| 23:25.01 | cdbot2 | * * Neo Advanced product page out-of-date |
| 23:25.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=988 |
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