| 00:00.03 | BryceLeo | quicksand: alrighty thanks |
| 00:00.07 | BryceLeo | guess i'll have to wait till the new drive gets here |
| 00:00.11 | BlackBsd | damn, i finally got qemu compiled and gcc 3x on gentoo. |
| 00:00.13 | BryceLeo | i'm working on 20gb right now |
| 00:00.26 | BlackBsd | im wondering what else i need to do to run the apps on my pc |
| 00:02.32 | rwhitby | BryceLeo: my current 2007.2 build is 6.5GB *using* rm_work |
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| 00:03.00 | rwhitby | BryceLeo: why not use rm_work? |
| 00:03.07 | BryceLeo | hmmm... i'll have to see what sort of cruft i can massage out of this thing |
| 00:03.20 | BryceLeo | builds the image slower |
| 00:04.58 | jseghers | is rm_work the default or not? I haven't set it myself... |
| 00:05.09 | BryceLeo | it's not the default |
| 00:05.12 | jseghers | still waiting on du -sh... but I need to leve the office. |
| 00:05.17 | BryceLeo | dang |
| 00:05.22 | BryceLeo | thanks for the try! |
| 00:05.25 | jseghers | :) |
| 00:05.26 | rwhitby | I probably should make rm_work the default, now that it works. |
| 00:06.06 | BryceLeo | rwhitby: i dont know if maybe i'm mis-understanding what it does. but if you're building applications isn't it slower because it has to re-download packages? |
| 00:06.17 | roh | rwhitby hehe.. yeah |
| 00:06.49 | rwhitby | BryceLeo: doesn't cause anything to be redownloaded or rebuilt |
| 00:07.31 | quicksand | If a package builds successfully, there's not much need to keep the source and patches around. |
| 00:07.42 | BryceLeo | rwhitby: hmm... is there a page that explains rm_work |
| 00:08.04 | jseghers | I'll post a cryptic note about it to the development list when I get in tomorrow... it *should* be done by then :) |
| 00:08.19 | BryceLeo | hahaha sweet thanks jseghers |
| 00:11.21 | roh | *sigh* .. now we just need our own monotone mirror and the buildsys is nearly callable performant :) |
| 00:11.35 | gcb77 | Is there a way to get the network configured on the NEO to see the internet through USB? |
| 00:11.58 | Aria | Yes. It's the interface usb0 |
| 00:12.02 | BryceLeo | gcb77 there's a wiki article on it and you also need a resolv.conf |
| 00:13.09 | SpeedEvil | You mean gprs, or usb-net so that apps on the neo can see the world through USB? |
| 00:16.48 | gcb77 | SpeedEvil: usb-net |
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| 00:17.20 | SpeedEvil | Basically. |
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| 00:17.59 | SpeedEvil | route add default gw 192.168.0.200 - if that's the other end of the USB link, and enable the other end to do forwarding |
| 00:18.07 | gcb77 | I took a snapshot of /proc/apm every 30 sec, and wrote to a log file on the card until the dvice died |
| 00:18.09 | SpeedEvil | and you need to setup /etc/resolv.conf of course |
| 00:18.34 | SpeedEvil | gcb77: yes - it's not linear - I'm fixing it - I have a patch in mid-polish. |
| 00:18.35 | gcb77 | It took 5 minutes to go from 50% to 0 |
| 00:18.49 | gcb77 | cool :) |
| 00:18.50 | SpeedEvil | That's about right. |
| 00:18.57 | SpeedEvil | Or expected, rather |
| 00:24.02 | mentax | quicksand: do you have the ipkg of gpe-filemanager? |
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| 00:36.16 | cjb | wow! |
| 00:36.18 | cjb | just tried the new release |
| 00:36.23 | cjb | finger scrolling == win |
| 00:36.31 | freak01 | lol |
| 00:36.32 | freak01 | ;D |
| 00:36.37 | BryceLeo | hahaha niice |
| 00:36.39 | freak01 | u mean kinetic |
| 00:36.40 | freak01 | ? |
| 00:38.11 | BryceLeo | has there been any talk of gta02 release date? |
| 00:38.39 | freak01 | yeah i'm waiting for the news too ;) |
| 00:39.20 | freak01 | and 450$ is the final price for Neo Basic and 600$ for Advanced? |
| 00:40.42 | BryceLeo | it's probably going to be the final price |
| 00:41.27 | freak01 | hmmm but the price for ups service is to big :/ |
| 00:42.00 | BryceLeo | the gta02 is worth it |
| 00:42.11 | freak01 | yeah |
| 00:42.13 | BryceLeo | certainly way more worth it than a Palm device like the 755 |
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| 00:42.30 | freak01 | sure thing |
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| 00:43.57 | freak01 | i hope thet it will be more preapaired then the last GTA01 and it will be enough for all ppl ;D |
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| 00:59.21 | BryceLeo | freak01: they'll never do something like that, always have a demand, demand breeds word of mouth breeds more demand |
| 00:59.39 | freak01 | ;) |
| 00:59.51 | BryceLeo | lol it would be nice thought |
| 00:59.52 | BryceLeo | though* |
| 01:00.06 | freak01 | i wish to buy it but |
| 01:00.16 | freak01 | if i will be to late ;p i will be angry |
| 01:00.17 | freak01 | ;D |
| 01:00.31 | BryceLeo | hahaha |
| 01:00.59 | BryceLeo | i don't even have enough money to buy a working phone for myself |
| 01:01.05 | freak01 | im trying to earn for thet "blessing of Gods" ;p in Irleand ;p |
| 01:01.24 | BryceLeo | haha |
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| 01:01.45 | freak01 | yeah thets true |
| 01:01.54 | freak01 | XD |
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| 01:04.31 | BryceLeo | lol |
| 01:16.05 | cheriff | good morning! is the memory bus on neo 16 or 32 bits wide? |
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| 01:16.46 | SpeedEvil | ew |
| 01:16.49 | SpeedEvil | 32 |
| 01:17.10 | cheriff | nice.. thats what I was hoping :) |
| 01:17.20 | cheriff | so 32 bits @ 133MHz |
| 01:17.26 | SpeedEvil | 2*16bit * 32M |
| 01:17.28 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 01:18.24 | cheriff | we seem to be having performance issues that look to be memory bandwidth limited |
| 01:18.43 | cheriff | so i'm trying to see what proportion of the bus LCD refresh is consuming |
| 01:18.47 | cesarb | hm, interesting, it looks like after a dfu-util -U the uboot timeout goes away (i.e. it does not turn off by itself anymore) |
| 01:19.10 | SpeedEvil | Not that bad - around 10% normally. |
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| 01:20.06 | BryceLeo | cheriff..... where are you that it's morning? |
| 01:20.47 | cheriff | sydney. and actually it's late morning, 11:20am :) |
| 01:21.05 | gcb77 | Thanks for the help, I can ping yahoo.com from the phone now:) |
| 01:21.15 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 01:21.21 | gcb77 | Just had to work around the YaST config |
| 01:21.39 | BryceLeo | lol cheriff that sounds like a nice place to live |
| 01:22.07 | BryceLeo | gcb YaST??? |
| 01:22.09 | BryceLeo | huh? |
| 01:22.24 | cheriff | BryceLeo: not today is isn't.. weather's been miserable all week! |
| 01:22.40 | gcb77 | BryceLeo: I'm running opensuse on the host |
| 01:23.11 | BryceLeo | gcb77: what opensuse version |
| 01:23.12 | gcb77 | YaST is the config tool from Novel |
| 01:23.17 | gcb77 | 10.2 |
| 01:23.23 | BryceLeo | got any tips for setting up OE on there? |
| 01:23.39 | BryceLeo | i've got a sun workstation running Opensuse 10.2 at work |
| 01:23.45 | BryceLeo | i thought you meant yast on the phone |
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| 01:26.33 | gcb77 | BryceLeo: had to work around a couple of things |
| 01:26.36 | gcb77 | See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile#openSUSE_10.2_workarounds |
| 01:26.45 | gcb77 | and: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:OpenMoko_under_QEMU#Compiling_QEMU_with_SUSE_10.2 |
| 01:27.41 | gcb77 | I never got the gadget ethernet device working since 10.2 comes with 2.6.18, and you need at least 2.6.20 |
| 01:27.56 | BryceLeo | gcb77 you rock, i never managed to find any help... i was searching the OE wiki |
| 01:27.56 | gcb77 | But 10.3 is in beta now, so it wont be long :) |
| 01:28.26 | BryceLeo | gcb77: haha do you really like suse or do you use it for other reasons? |
| 01:29.18 | BryceLeo | gcb77: i'm not a yast fan i just hate how in some ways it's so damn convoluted |
| 01:29.44 | BryceLeo | now i can use my work box as a build host |
| 01:29.47 | gcb77 | I really like it... been using it for years |
| 01:30.17 | BryceLeo | hmm.. i guess it's one of those things to get used to, like i absolutely loved Mandrake back in the day |
| 01:31.36 | cheriff | SpeedEvil: I slowed the lcd refresh to 28Hz from around 42 (if my calculations are correct) and besides a bit of flicker to difference. So you're right about that |
| 01:32.33 | cesarb | This thing is completely ridiculous |
| 01:32.51 | cheriff | cesarb: the pen/torch/laser/stylus? |
| 01:33.27 | BryceLeo | cesarb: aww what's wrong with the stlyus? |
| 01:33.29 | cesarb | cheriff: yeah... the led is pretty cool, but the fact that everything is crammed on a single pen-looking thing looks a bit ridiculous |
| 01:33.42 | cesarb | BryceLeo: quite simply: it does not fit |
| 01:34.00 | gcb77 | cesarb: I disagree, I like it a lot |
| 01:34.00 | cesarb | BryceLeo: and it's overdone |
| 01:34.06 | gcb77 | I just keep forgetting it |
| 01:34.22 | cesarb | What's wrong with a five-cent piece of plastic, like the one on a Zire 72? |
| 01:34.27 | gcb77 | I'll probably just use my old palm stylus for the NEO |
| 01:34.34 | BryceLeo | aww man, time for a drill to the case and a bit of dremeling to fit in an ipaq or treo stylus |
| 01:34.50 | gcb77 | BryceLeo: lol, yea |
| 01:35.18 | SpeedEvil | The pen is actually cheap. |
| 01:35.23 | BryceLeo | cesarb: if you're in usa amazon has some good reasonably priced ones |
| 01:35.24 | SpeedEvil | Prolly $2 in bulk. |
| 01:35.27 | BryceLeo | damn |
| 01:35.29 | BryceLeo | that is cheap |
| 01:35.36 | SpeedEvil | $4 on ebay |
| 01:35.37 | cesarb | BryceLeo: good luck... the case is packed (see the photos), you will probably want an alternative back |
| 01:35.52 | gcb77 | woo hoo, the feed reader just downloaded the messages from OpenMoko :D |
| 01:35.59 | cesarb | BryceLeo: I'm on Brazil, so it probably is at least 3 times as expensive |
| 01:35.59 | wastrel | openmoko |
| 01:36.14 | cheriff | SpeedEvil: yeah, I have another one (minus the led) that was given to every male at some formal dinner event. customised with company logos and stuff |
| 01:36.21 | BryceLeo | cesarb: ahh ok, def more expensive in brazil |
| 01:36.53 | BryceLeo | cesarb: i really want to see those expansion back things come into reality |
| 01:37.34 | SpeedEvil | This is bizarre. I seem to have triggered some sort of pathalogical case in the linux VM. |
| 01:37.50 | SpeedEvil | It's swapping everything out really hard. |
| 01:38.08 | SpeedEvil | To the extent that I have 84/128M of memory free. |
| 01:38.45 | SpeedEvil | (not on neo) |
| 01:39.43 | SpeedEvil | 94 free... |
| 01:40.07 | BryceLeo | .... oops |
| 01:40.26 | BryceLeo | that's odd |
| 01:40.34 | SpeedEvil | Very. |
| 01:42.02 | BryceLeo | anyone have a link to an explanation of when rm_work is needed and not needed |
| 01:42.33 | SpeedEvil | As I understand it. |
| 01:42.42 | SpeedEvil | rm_work solely saves disk space. |
| 01:42.53 | SpeedEvil | At some time cost on your next build. |
| 01:43.22 | BryceLeo | ahhh ok makes sense |
| 01:43.29 | BryceLeo | that's what i understood |
| 01:44.19 | cesarb | SpeedEvil: or in the same build... when (not if) you have to restart after fixing some silly bashism or other random build breakage |
| 01:44.34 | BryceLeo | so if you're constantly re-building the image to test core functionality such as the panel or the keyboard, or other interfaces it makes sense to not use it |
| 01:46.01 | BryceLeo | i can't wait till i get that new drive |
| 01:46.42 | BryceLeo | 160gb in the way, doubles my current storage |
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| 01:46.49 | cesarb | Cool, this snapshot already comes with sgtatham's puzzles! |
| 01:47.10 | cesarb | Adding these puzzles to the neo was like one of the first things I wanted to do |
| 01:47.33 | sagacis | cesarb: A lot of them have no input mechanisms, tho |
| 01:47.43 | mrface | cesarb: do you want to figure out how to make keyboard input work with them? ;) |
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| 01:48.40 | cesarb | I just figured that when you click on a list item, it thinks you are still on the previous list... making the wrong program appear |
| 01:49.51 | mrface | ahh, that explains it. I ran into that, but I couldn't figure out the pattern |
| 01:50.08 | sagacis | I"m trying to find a routine that brings up the GSM to be accessed through X.... |
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| 01:51.23 | mrface | sagacis: you mean so you can use the dialer? |
| 01:51.24 | cesarb | Cool, "power up GSM antenna" makes all the status icon disappear :P |
| 01:51.36 | cesarb | (this thing is as buggy as in the emulator) |
| 01:51.55 | sagacis | It seems if I run "/etc/init.d/gsmd stop; /etc/init.d/gmsd start; /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart;" seems to be pretty reproducible. |
| 01:52.34 | mrface | I like to put a start/stop in my /etc/matchbox/session, that makes gsm functional on the first boot |
| 01:53.01 | sagacis | It seems the dialer doesn't connect to the gsmd if it starts before the gsmd is restarted |
| 01:53.14 | sagacis | something like a chicken-egg paradox |
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| 01:53.43 | sagacis|neo | aha! |
| 01:54.01 | mrface | if you do what I have done, the dialer works right after boot every time |
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| 01:54.10 | sagacis|neo | I`m on gprs now |
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| 01:54.26 | sagacis|neo | mrface, ill try it |
| 01:55.13 | sagacis | mrface, did you put it before the dialer call? |
| 01:55.54 | mrface | right after #!/bin/sh |
| 01:56.21 | mrface | I don't see a call to dialer, you mean neod? |
| 01:56.26 | sagacis | mrface: Thanks, you just saved me the next few steps. |
| 01:56.56 | mrface | I'm glad |
| 01:57.14 | sagacis | mrface: I have http://pastebin.ca/667515 |
| 01:58.06 | BryceLeo | cesarb: which palm device did you have with a standard usb port |
| 01:58.10 | BryceLeo | zire 72? |
| 01:58.12 | cesarb | BryceLeo: yep |
| 01:58.13 | mrface | sagacis: oh yeah, I have that too, I can't believe I didn't notice it |
| 01:58.18 | BryceLeo | haha i love my zire72 |
| 01:58.20 | mrface | sagacis: do the instructions in the wiki work for gprs? |
| 01:58.21 | sagacis|neo | I still need to figure out why xchat chops off the last 4 letters |
| 01:58.25 | BryceLeo | o need to replace the battery though |
| 01:58.32 | cesarb | BryceLeo: the one with the cool blue paint which has a nice grip on your hand |
| 01:58.46 | sagacis | mrface: Basically |
| 01:58.50 | cesarb | BryceLeo: but sadly no grip at all with the device itself, so it flaks off just by looking at it |
| 01:59.16 | BryceLeo | lol cesarb exactly! i've got a silver zire72 now, all of the blue is gone |
| 01:59.55 | mrface | sagacis: cool, I need to try it |
| 02:00.16 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Repositories]] [[Wishlist:Accessories]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Wish_List]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Warsaw]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Bern]] |
| 02:00.19 | BryceLeo | haha yeah i bought that as well, it's a fantastic device, just as powerful as a Treo without the phone parts |
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| 02:00.49 | alphaone | Okay, anyone who built a uboot the last two days from oe.dev will probably want to throw that away and rebuild. |
| 02:00.54 | cesarb | BryceLeo: yeah, it's a great device, except for the infuriatingly obsolete 16-bit-like operating system |
| 02:01.13 | BryceLeo | lol cesarb i'll give you that, but you can't beat being able to whip up a quick app on the fly with plua |
| 02:01.24 | BryceLeo | the bindings are right there and make apps simple as heck to build |
| 02:01.34 | BryceLeo | and it's fast too |
| 02:01.53 | cesarb | BryceLeo: does it have bindings for the bluetooth too? |
| 02:02.25 | BryceLeo | i'll give you that, no bt bindings |
| 02:03.14 | BryceLeo | Poky should boot on the zire though |
| 02:03.30 | cesarb | BryceLeo: I've booted angstrom on it already |
| 02:03.37 | linux_galore | Ive seen Tungsten's selling second for next to nothing |
| 02:04.19 | linux_galore | I should buy one and put Linuxon it |
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| 02:05.10 | BryceLeo | cesarb: sweet deal, assume it's on the angstrom wiki? |
| 02:06.29 | BryceLeo | does angstrom have drives for sdio wifi? |
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| 02:07.23 | cesarb | BryceLeo: http://hackndev.com/palm/z72 |
| 02:07.50 | cesarb | BryceLeo: I got the link to where this guy put an angstrom build from somewhere on this page |
| 02:07.57 | cesarb | BryceLeo: it was some time ago, however |
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| 02:08.20 | BryceLeo | sweet, the link is all that i need, reading and digging doesn't bother me a bit |
| 02:08.23 | cesarb | (using that zire 72 is annoying, as the batteries are dying and run down way too fast) |
| 02:08.32 | wastrel | zire is palm os |
| 02:08.38 | BryceLeo | thanks a ton cesarb |
| 02:08.46 | cesarb | BryceLeo: try to get the gigantic forum thread where this guy discusses things |
| 02:08.53 | BryceLeo | cesarb: i'm going to be droping a replacement in soon enough |
| 02:09.29 | BryceLeo | cesarb: that sounds like a plan i'll comb the forum |
| 02:10.26 | cesarb | BryceLeo: I'm not finding it right now, it's a huge thread (tens of pages) where the guy posted each one of his milestones |
| 02:11.28 | cesarb | BryceLeo: found it: http://hackndev.com/node/61 |
| 02:11.38 | BryceLeo | you rock |
| 02:11.44 | cesarb | BryceLeo: only 548 comments |
| 02:12.00 | cesarb | BryceLeo: (just had to search for the guy's nickname on the forum search, it was the first hit...) |
| 02:12.08 | BryceLeo | hahaha awesome |
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| 02:12.58 | cesarb | BryceLeo: there's another interesting page, on a wiki somewhere... finding it right now... |
| 02:13.13 | BryceLeo | thanks a ton cesarb |
| 02:13.18 | cesarb | BryceLeo: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmZire72 <- this one |
| 02:13.46 | cesarb | BryceLeo: these three pages (the blog-like one, the forum thread, and the wiki one) are all I have on the subject |
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| 02:14.28 | BryceLeo | awesome, that's more than enough, thank you so much |
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| 02:18.37 | sagacis | cesarb: How did you get the feedreader to do something? |
| 02:19.32 | sagacis|neo_ | nevermind. it just updated |
| 02:21.15 | sagacis|neo_ | are the feeds still hardcoded |
| 02:21.21 | Writchie | Halleleua!! mokomakefile build of om2007.2 finally completed successfully (ubuntu 7.04) |
| 02:21.58 | sagacis|neo_ | Writchie, congrats! |
| 02:22.32 | BryceLeo | Writchie: heh, i'm in that current waiting boat |
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| 02:24.50 | rwhitby | SpeedEvil: rm_work has absolutely no effect on build time (apart from the time to rm the work directory). If something was going to be rebuilt, the first thing that happens is that it is done in a new directory anyway, so doing an rm_work before that has no effect on the time of the subsequent builds. |
| 02:25.20 | Writchie | make update-makefile clobber-patches update setup clean-package-linux openmoko-devel-image |
| 02:27.31 | rwhitby | Writchie: from now on, only "make update all" should be required, unless there is a change in the makefile, in which case "make update-makefile ; make setup" before doing "make update all" |
| 02:27.54 | rwhitby | you can see if there is a change pending in the makefile with "make check-makefile" |
| 02:28.06 | Writchie | rwhitby: tx |
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| 02:33.56 | Writchie | rwhitby: would like to know how that turns out - did you have to add anything yet |
| 02:34.32 | rwhitby | Writchie: I record anything that's not available in stock repos or rpmforge on the OEAndYourDistro page on oe.org |
| 02:35.39 | cesarb | The UI startup sound sure is annoyingly loud |
| 02:38.24 | sagacis|neo_ | cesarb, I restored my handset state. now i get no sounds at boot |
| 02:38.34 | sagacis|neo_ | or otherwise... |
| 02:39.02 | sagacis|neo_ | i also lost the force feedback |
| 02:39.36 | sagacis|neo_ | boy they really improved the usabilty of the keyboard |
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| 02:41.08 | arw_ | hello |
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| 02:48.42 | sagacis | Hey, I just posted to http://scap.linuxtogo.org/. The resolution on this thing is incredible! |
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| 03:01.14 | cesarb | Hm, what do the leds on the debug board mean? |
| 03:02.12 | cesarb | (I see LEDs 1, 2 and 7 on and LED 5 off after plugging it on the computer just to see what happens) |
| 03:02.40 | cesarb | btw, is it normal for the debug board (plugged only on the computer) to make a high-frequency noise? |
| 03:03.07 | raster | it's armed and ready to blow |
| 03:04.51 | cesarb | And mine doesn't seem to have CE2 and CE3 |
| 03:06.51 | raster | but it has c4 |
| 03:06.57 | raster | :) |
| 03:08.13 | rwhitby | cesarb: we've got the debug board schematics now - look it up on there :-) |
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| 03:09.06 | cesarb | rwhitby: thanks, I had completely forgotten it was already available |
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| 03:10.43 | cesarb | LED1 and 2 are the power before and after the regulator, and 5 and 7 come from the FTDI chip... |
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| 03:25.28 | rwhitby | I build most days on Debian Etch and CentOS 5, both using MokoMakefile and the nslu2-linux Master Makefile. The nslu2-linux autobuilder also builds continuously on Debian Etch. |
| 03:25.37 | rwhitby | (all 32 bit) |
| 03:26.11 | cesarb | Is it normal for libgsmd-tool -m atcmd to return no response at all from gsmd to your commands? |
| 03:27.18 | sagacis | cesarb: ATE1 means echo commands. In all cases you should get "OK" |
| 03:27.25 | sagacis | Standard Hayes modem |
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| 03:27.58 | hads | You may need to follow the notes here; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GSM#Connecting_to_GSM_Modem |
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| 03:29.37 | cesarb | hads: I'm trying to use gsmd passthrough, not direct talking to the modem |
| 03:29.51 | cesarb | hads: the modem is answering fine, or so gsmd sayd in its console spam |
| 03:29.51 | hads | OK |
| 03:30.09 | sagacis | cesarb: How does -m shell look? |
| 03:30.34 | cesarb | sagacis: same thing... doesn't answer |
| 03:30.52 | sagacis | Grrr. My openmoko-calculator2 failed again! |
| 03:30.59 | sagacis | build, that is. |
| 03:31.17 | jipi | i dun get my u-boot prompt but i get my cdc device. anyone is expert in using cu? |
| 03:31.54 | alphaone | jipi: Try screen /dev/foo 115200 |
| 03:31.57 | cesarb | jipi: just do "cu -l /dev/ttyACM0" |
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| 03:36.05 | cesarb | Hm, I'm getting the impression that libgsmd-tool simply isn't talking to gsmd |
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| 03:36.28 | jipi | i dun get anything... i'm actually in the devirginating process. |
| 03:36.48 | jipi | i got the ttyACM0 device coming up after devirginate -1 |
| 03:37.00 | jipi | but no smiley faces |
| 03:37.59 | jipi | how long do i ahve to wait before devirginate -1 finishes? |
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| 03:38.54 | sagacis|neo_ | its late (ugt). gotta go |
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| 03:39.59 | sa123 | do_install task fails for libmokogsmd2 |
| 03:41.39 | sa123 | and the error is : no rule to make target install. And configure and compile tasks ran successfully |
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| 03:44.33 | cesarb | Does anyone know if libgsmd-tool -m shell actually works on the august snapshot? |
| 03:45.30 | sagacis|neo_ | cesarb, is your gsmd started? |
| 03:45.33 | sa123 | cesarb: it works for me.... |
| 03:45.44 | jipi | hmmm... i can get the console on a normal unbricked neo. but couldn't on the one i'm trying to revive |
| 03:46.24 | cesarb | sagacis|neo_: I started it with "gsmd -p /dev/ttySAC0 -s 115200 -F" after powering up the modem, as explained on the wiki, and the debug messages from gsmd show answers from the modem |
| 03:46.59 | cesarb | sagacis|neo_: but gsmd prints nothing extra no matter what I do on either atcmd or shell on the libgsmd-tool |
| 03:48.20 | sagacis|neo_ | im using /etc/init.d/gsmd stop/start noow |
| 03:48.25 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2797 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): move current kernel patches from trunk to 2.6.21.x branch |
| 03:48.28 | sagacis|neo_ | much easier |
| 03:49.36 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2798 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): move 2.6.22.x patches into trunk |
| 03:49.40 | sagacis|neo_ | great.now i gott restart the build :) |
| 03:51.15 | sa123 | does libmokogsmd2 install easily |
| 03:52.22 | jaebird | sagacis: howdy |
| 03:52.54 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2799 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux/ (linux-gta01_2.6.21.6.bb linux-gta01_2.6.22.1.bb): reflect svn path changes between 2.6.21 and 2.6.22 patchset in oe recipe |
| 03:54.14 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2800 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux/linux-gta01_2.6.22.5.bb: add recipe for 2.6.22.5 kernel |
| 03:54.20 | cesarb | hm, my neo's poweroff sequence seems to have gotten stuck, and the "cool colorful flaming splash image" hides the console output which would tell me why |
| 03:57.12 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2801 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/ (p/ patches/): moving directory to temporary name |
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| 03:57.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2802 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/ (p/patches/ patches/): move patches directory to the right location in the tree |
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| 03:59.31 | cesarb | Is it normal that the battery gets warm after a couple of hours of it being used with the USB plugged in? |
| 03:59.55 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[MokoMakefile]] [[Repositories]] |
| 04:01.58 | hads | Sounds pretty standard |
| 04:05.45 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2805 10/branches/src/target/kernel/ (2.6.21.x/patches/ 2.6.21.x-patches/): move 2.6.21 patches to their final location |
| 04:05.45 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2804 10/branches/src/target/kernel/2.6.21.x/: cretae new 2.6.21.x dir |
| 04:05.45 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2803 10/branches/src/target/kernel/ (2.6.21.x/ 2.6.21.x-patches/): move directory to temp location |
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| 04:19.02 | hozer | silly question.. can the arm on the moko run big-endian? |
| 04:19.10 | hozer | s/moko/neo/ |
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| 04:34.51 | CM | hozer: I think arm can run both big or small :) |
| 04:36.51 | linux_galore | yeah, arm runs either |
| 04:37.52 | hozer | okay.. so why do I have a 2.6.21.6-moko11 kernel from the 20070813 snapshot on my phone, and what I thought was the lastest checkout from oe/mtn/mokomakefile is 2.6.21.5-moko10 |
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| 04:40.18 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2806 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/gsmd/ (atcmd.c gsmd.c): fix mlbuf handling (Phillip Zabel) |
| 04:42.25 | alphaone | hozer: <CIA-1> daniel org.oe.dev * rb10ad1f1... / (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-gta01: Add version 2.6.21.6 from OpenMoko svn overlay |
| 04:43.35 | alphaone | hozer: Probably because it was just recently added to oe.dev from the svn overlay |
| 04:46.32 | gcb77 | Is there a working web browser for the 2007.2? |
| 04:47.58 | roh | gcb77 not yet. its beeing worked on and already looks pretty cool |
| 04:48.12 | roh | http://people.openmoko.org/ninjutsu/Browsing.mpg |
| 04:54.12 | blindcoder | moin |
| 04:57.20 | hozer | alphaone: ah, nifty.. but doesn't monotone support distributed repositories? why can't we use a monotone fork instead of svn overlays and such |
| 04:58.10 | CM | roh: Cool :) |
| 04:59.51 | alphaone | hozer: That's being discussed. |
| 05:00.26 | alphaone | And with 2007.2 we already got rid of the svn overlay. |
| 05:00.44 | hozer | good |
| 05:01.30 | hozer | mostly cause I don't want to have to lean monotone |
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| 05:17.09 | hozer | damnit |
| 05:17.34 | hozer | <4>rxrpc: Unknown symbol __aeabi_idiv |
| 05:17.55 | hozer | is this a build problem, or something I need to clean up in the rxrpc kernel code? |
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| 05:59.56 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[P1_Owners]] [[SH1_FAQ]] [[User_talk:HaraldWelte]] [[Phase_1_Software_Testing]] |
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| 06:25.03 | xkr47 | yooo good morning mokolandia |
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| 06:30.02 | zash_se | xkr47: mornin' |
| 06:30.19 | zash_se | coffe ftw |
| 06:32.40 | manulito | anyone here working with the openmoko daily ? |
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| 06:46.14 | dsilva | is binutils in svn broken? |
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| 06:57.46 | dsilva | rwhitby: hi, the MokoMakefile wiki page says to report errors to you |
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| 07:02.22 | mrface | dsilva: did you make update-makefile && make setup && make update && make clean-package-% ? |
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| 07:02.35 | mrface | oh yeah, and make all |
| 07:02.44 | dsilva | mrface: yep |
| 07:02.54 | mrface | what's failing? |
| 07:03.03 | dsilva | when it tries to compile binutils |
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| 07:03.27 | dsilva | gcc exits with /binutils/bucomm.c:107: error: 'TARGET' undeclared |
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| 07:04.43 | mrface | sounds like someone checked in bad code, there has been a lot of that lately, but it's usually fixed rather quickly |
| 07:04.49 | mrface | not a makefile problem |
| 07:05.26 | dsilva | i thought basic things like binutils would come pretty much untouched from upstream? |
| 07:06.26 | mrface | almost everything has patches |
| 07:07.01 | mrface | you can see the patches in this dir: openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cvs/ |
| 07:07.11 | dsilva | oh |
| 07:07.45 | dsilva | hmm, so i guess for now I should wait a bit |
| 07:08.00 | dsilva | is there somewhere I can get a binary package of the dev tools? |
| 07:08.18 | dsilva | I don't want to build an openmoko image, just ARM binaries that I can scp to my phone |
| 07:08.20 | mrface | I ran into this 3 or 4 times today and within an hour it was fixed |
| 07:08.33 | mrface | yes |
| 07:09.19 | mrface | check it: http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.08/ipk/armv4t/ |
| 07:09.29 | mrface | a few days old though |
| 07:10.48 | dsilva | the .ipk files are packages for the phone, right? ARM binaries? |
| 07:11.07 | mrface | yes, scp them to the phone and run "ipkg install *.ipk" |
| 07:11.16 | dsilva | ah ok |
| 07:11.27 | dsilva | I was wondering about a cross-compiler tool though :) |
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| 07:11.51 | mrface | you want to compile things ON the phone? |
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| 07:12.04 | dsilva | I want to compile on my x86, but with the phone as the target |
| 07:13.17 | mrface | I think if you have mokomakefile running, you should be all set for that right? why would you need binutils to compile? |
| 07:14.13 | dsilva | binutils has the assembler and linker |
| 07:14.30 | mrface | omg, I just said something really stupid didn't I? |
| 07:14.44 | mrface | ok, hmm. I don't know what to tell you then |
| 07:15.53 | dsilva | hmm I guess everyone builds it with mokomakefile from source then :) |
| 07:16.13 | dsilva | ok, I'll wait until the error is fixed |
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| 07:16.16 | dsilva | thanks |
| 07:18.08 | mrface | I wonder if there's an easy way to get an earlier revision and use that? |
| 07:19.01 | dsilva | I guess I would svn up an older revision |
| 07:22.15 | dsilva | do you know where the moko/sources/*.tar.bz2 filenames and source URLs? |
| 07:22.22 | dsilva | er, where they come from? |
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| 07:24.59 | mrface | I think the best bet would be to temporarily modify the binutils bitbake file |
| 07:25.43 | mrface | for example: |
| 07:25.45 | mrface | cp openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils_2.17.bb openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils_cvs.bb |
| 07:26.32 | mrface | then, until you do an update, it should pull 2.17 |
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| 07:26.50 | dsilva | oh i see |
| 07:26.56 | dsilva | let me try that.. |
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| 07:29.41 | dsilva | Running task 200 of 4356 (ID: 1505, /home/dsilva/motodev/openembedded/packages/binutils/binutils-cross_2.17.50.0.5.bb, do_compile) |
| 07:30.00 | dsilva | hmm, it still tried 2.17.50.0.5 |
| 07:30.51 | mrface | I thought you said it was cvs? |
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| 07:31.30 | dsilva | not sure, I just ran "make clean-package-binutils" and make all |
| 07:31.43 | mrface | hmm |
| 07:32.07 | dsilva | ~/motodev/openembedded/packages/binutils$ ls *.bb |wc -l |
| 07:32.16 | dsilva | 35 |
| 07:32.54 | dsilva | there's 35 bitbake recipes there I guess, and apparently 2.17.50.0.5 is being used |
| 07:32.54 | mrface | oh I see, yes it's using the bitbake recipe for 2.17.50.0.5 |
| 07:33.07 | dsilva | where is that choice made? |
| 07:33.24 | mrface | yeah, so just try copying one of the others over binutils-cross_2.17.50.0.5.bb |
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| 07:33.31 | mrface | yeah... I don't know |
| 07:33.42 | mrface | that's why I'm suggesting this hack ;) |
| 07:33.47 | dsilva | hehe |
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| 07:34.56 | hrw | binutils 2.17.50.0.5 is working |
| 07:35.16 | dsilva | you don't get a build error? |
| 07:35.37 | mrface | oh, haha, it must have been fixed already |
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| 07:35.53 | hrw | I built 2.17.50.0.5 for months |
| 07:35.56 | hrw | last time today |
| 07:36.59 | dsilva | yeah, 2.17 didn't work for me either |
| 07:37.05 | dsilva | i must have set something up incorrectly then |
| 07:39.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 745 has been created by emreturkay(AT)gmail.com |
| 07:39.01 | cdbot2 | * * gnome-system-tools |
| 07:39.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=745 |
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| 07:54.44 | dsilva | that was weird... I blew away build/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/binutils-cross-2.17.50.0.5-r1, updated, cleaned, and reran make, and it got past binutils now |
| 07:55.09 | dsilva | oh wait |
| 07:55.13 | dsilva | nevermind.. |
| 07:56.13 | CM | I finished a mokomakefile build this morning without any problems |
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| 07:56.41 | CM | Guess something changed very recently? |
| 07:56.59 | dsilva | maybe, since I'm getting a different error from 10 minutes ago right now |
| 07:57.18 | dsilva | now i get a make error: No rule to make target `configure-build-libiberty'. Stop. |
| 07:57.35 | CM | Strange |
| 07:58.30 | dsilva | are there stable source releases of the openmoko tree or does everyone use the trunk? |
| 07:58.49 | CM | Nothing stable at all yet, afaik |
| 07:59.05 | dsilva | ok |
| 08:00.36 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin]] [[P1_Owners]] |
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| 08:04.37 | dsilva | guess I'll try again in the morning :) thanks for the info |
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| 08:27.43 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2807 10/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/src/main.c: version number printout has not been implemented yet |
| 08:29.12 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2808 10/trunk/src/host/dfu-util/src/main.c: |
| 08:29.12 | CIA-20 | openmoko: dfu-util --reset (-R) does not take an argument. Closes |
| 08:29.12 | CIA-20 | openmoko: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=652 |
| 08:31.42 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2809 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-dfu.patch: use correct bNumConfigurations value (1, not 5) |
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| 08:59.27 | FuzzyCat | hhhrm |
| 09:00.45 | florian | good morning |
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| 09:05.23 | zash_se | Morning? at 11:05? |
| 09:05.39 | stefan_schmidt | ~ugt |
| 09:05.40 | apt | rumour has it, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 09:07.01 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 746 has been created by <autobuild-report> |
| 09:07.01 | cdbot2 | * * linux-gta01-2.6.21.5-r3-do_prepatch |
| 09:07.02 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=746 |
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| 09:10.46 | zash_se | apt: haha |
| 09:10.46 | apt | I call that haha |
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| 09:20.26 | XorA | ~zap lrg |
| 09:20.26 | apt | ACTION takes out a cattle prod and gives lrg a good jolt. |
| 09:20.54 | zecke | ? |
| 09:21.29 | lrg | ouch |
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| 09:42.55 | FuzzyCat | ~praise ScaredyCat |
| 09:42.56 | apt | All hail ScaredyCat! |
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| 09:48.07 | ccube | hi, someone there |
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| 09:48.40 | ccube | is there any solution to get the changelog for the daily openmoko builds? |
| 09:49.38 | ccube | or doesnt exists one? |
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| 09:50.50 | rwhitby | ccube: there are rss feeds for openmoko and openembedded commits |
| 09:51.47 | rwhitby | http://cia.vc/stats/project/openembedded/.rss and http://cia.vc/stats/project/openmoko/.rss |
| 09:52.05 | ccube | hey, cool |
| 09:52.11 | ccube | exactly what im searching for!!! |
| 09:52.13 | rwhitby | ccube: your fee for that information is to put it on the wiki somewhere. |
| 09:52.22 | ccube | hehe |
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| 09:57.00 | ccube | thx 4 it |
| 09:57.07 | ccube | ill put it in the wiki |
| 09:57.20 | ccube | i hope to the right place... |
| 10:03.20 | ccube | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_openmoko#Files_to_download |
| 10:03.25 | ccube | put it here! ;) |
| 10:03.33 | ccube | my first wiki-edit, hehe |
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| 10:23.59 | mentax | how i may setup alsa to play mp3 with console using madplay? |
| 10:26.03 | FuzzyCat | alsactl -f /etc/stereoout.state restore |
| 10:26.53 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: I miss the logs from the autobuilder bugreports. Only one sentence with timestamp is not really helpful when I like to verify if the bug is still valid. |
| 10:28.18 | torpor | my neo is reporting no sound cards on boot!! |
| 10:28.46 | stefan_schmidt | torpor: I does this all the time. We load the sound module later. |
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| 10:30.09 | vivo | hi everyone, new openmoko here ... and need some help flashing |
| 10:30.26 | vivo | I'm getting "No DFU capable USB device found" with dfu-utils |
| 10:30.51 | vivo | lsusb show "Bus 001 Device 007: ID 1457:5122" |
| 10:30.59 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: currently I ask you to go to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox and check the build log |
| 10:31.09 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: and I wonder why the full build takes sooooo long :) |
| 10:31.28 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: webkit and his qmake dep? |
| 10:31.44 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: 306min from scratch on my system |
| 10:31.59 | DPThought | zecke: try as root |
| 10:32.01 | zecke | hmm |
| 10:32.12 | DPThought | zecke: ups |
| 10:32.23 | DPThought | vivo: you try as root ;) |
| 10:32.25 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: hmm, the log inside the bugreport was way more handy. |
| 10:32.56 | zecke | stefan_schmidt: I agree, and I will take a look but my slave job keeps me busy :) |
| 10:33.01 | vivo | I'm root , I'm also in a chroot :) (with /proc/bus/usb mounted ) |
| 10:33.08 | stefan_schmidt | zecke: heh, ok |
| 10:33.27 | zecke | I amuse myself with building qtopia :} |
| 10:33.54 | vivo | stefan_schmidt: the phone also recognize the usb link |
| 10:34.29 | stefan_schmidt | vivo: Do you mean me? |
| 10:35.03 | vivo | stefan_schmidt: hem no, DPThought, sorry |
| 10:35.08 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
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| 10:40.01 | vivo | does this error mean something for anyone? |
| 10:40.01 | vivo | ioctl(3, USBDEVFS_IOCTL, 0x7fffb6da7d50) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) |
| 10:40.39 | woglinde | vivo look what an ioctl is |
| 10:41.49 | hrw | vivo: you need to be root |
| 10:42.01 | hrw | vivo: root root not root in chroot |
| 10:42.39 | vivo | I am and now I'm trying outside the chroot, , maybe I need to mount something in /dev |
| 10:43.05 | vivo | btw, this is a gentoo linux box |
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| 10:45.20 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03chris * r2810 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-today2/ (ChangeLog src/today-launcher.c): Load .desktop files asynchronously (sort of) |
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| 10:45.50 | vivo | to flash om, does not mater that openmoko is stopped in kernel panic right ? |
| 10:46.51 | Psi_ | you flash it from the boot menu, kernel shouldnt be running |
| 10:47.32 | vivo | ahh, which RTFM I've missed then, how do I enter in boot menu ? |
| 10:47.46 | Psi_ | hold the extra button in while you power it on |
| 10:49.57 | vivo | Psi_: you own a beer, also the device id change from 5122 to 5119 |
| 10:50.04 | vivo | thanks :) |
| 10:50.07 | Psi_ | heh |
| 10:50.17 | Psi_ | no prob |
| 10:50.24 | Psi_ | dont flash uboot |
| 10:50.39 | vivo | did it right now :( |
| 10:50.50 | vivo | with om2007.2 |
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| 10:50.59 | Psi_ | did you buy the advanced kit |
| 10:51.05 | vivo | yes |
| 10:51.09 | Psi_ | ah, thats ok then |
| 10:51.25 | Psi_ | its just that if uboot fails you need the debug board to get it back |
| 10:51.29 | Psi_ | without one you are stuck |
| 10:52.17 | Psi_ | you can flash uboot without a debug board, just as long is the flash works :P |
| 10:52.58 | Psi_ | there isnt really any need to flash uboot that i know of, im still using the one that came with the neo |
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| 10:53.12 | vivo | luckily it's a copy and flash after the file is in memory |
| 10:53.31 | vivo | with less chanches to broke |
| 10:54.30 | vivo | I'll not flash it too often anyway, it's suggested in the wiky for SH1 |
| 10:54.50 | torpor | yeah and the thing is, if you flash uboot, and the flash burns, you are also not necessarily screwed as long as you don't *reboot*, and instead do do a good uboot burn at least once. |
| 10:54.57 | Psi_ | its perfectly safe to flash uboot if you have the debugboard :) |
| 10:55.28 | torpor | its also safe to flash uboot as long as you actually do flash uboot. which is to say, you can screw it up once or twice, not reboot, then get it righton the 3rd try .. |
| 10:55.37 | vivo | Psi_: with a little point you need to know how to use i :) |
| 10:55.43 | torpor | just trying to say, there is always hope to fix a dud u-boot, at least once before you need the debug board. |
| 10:55.59 | vivo | ... use it :) |
| 10:56.25 | vivo | torpor: yeah some adrenaline is needed sometime |
| 10:56.30 | Psi_ | vivo, ? |
| 10:56.42 | torpor | anyway i flashed my neo with the build from aug20 .. anyone know if theres newer stuff around or should i start stuffing .ipk's into this one for now? |
| 10:56.57 | torpor | vivo: adrenalin or misery. in my case, i'm a sucker for misery coz i'm so damn cheery. |
| 10:57.22 | vivo | Psi_: it was autoironic, I need to know how to use the debug board and that it's not at the moment |
| 10:57.36 | vivo | torpor: lol |
| 10:57.43 | rwhitby | torpor: ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openmoko/ has ipks from the autobuilder I run |
| 10:58.01 | torpor | rwhitby: noi-ce!! |
| 10:58.12 | Psi_ | vivo, i dont have a debugboard, so dunno how to use it |
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| 10:58.18 | rwhitby | put an ..../unstable on the end of that for the ipk area |
| 10:58.22 | xzcvczx | lol thanks LaF0rge |
| 10:58.29 | torpor | question for you rwhitby: |
| 10:58.37 | torpor | have you taken your neo to the beach! |
| 10:58.40 | torpor | ? |
| 10:58.50 | rwhitby | nope, it's a bit cold for the beach at the moment |
| 10:58.59 | torpor | bah! pommy bastard! |
| 10:59.01 | torpor | ;) |
| 10:59.20 | torpor | i'd be there fer sure right now if i could. cold or not. but wait, you're in melbourne so its .. quite cold, eh? |
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| 10:59.28 | rwhitby | adelaide |
| 10:59.36 | torpor | ah, crap beaches, right. |
| 10:59.57 | rwhitby | I grew up on the Gold Coast, so yes. |
| 11:00.07 | torpor | hah |
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| 11:00.14 | torpor | still, beaches are crap in queensland. |
| 11:00.19 | torpor | too many tourists. |
| 11:00.26 | rwhitby | bah. compared to where? |
| 11:00.27 | torpor | not enough sharks. |
| 11:00.32 | ccube | :-D |
| 11:00.34 | torpor | WEST COAST obviously! |
| 11:00.47 | rwhitby | heh, yeah, no tourists at perth beaches, right. |
| 11:01.00 | torpor | we only get the truly devoted ones, at least. |
| 11:01.06 | torpor | hardly *anyone* goes to perth, after all. |
| 11:01.07 | rwhitby | plenty of sharks where I learnt to dive on the great barrier reef. |
| 11:01.23 | torpor | sure, but they weren't the touristy crunchy bitey kind, eh? |
| 11:01.44 | torpor | great f'in WHITESHARKs just coming right up on shore, practically, to chomp |
| 11:02.07 | torpor | <-- homesick |
| 11:03.19 | DPThought | if the ausis would not scare all tourists away with warnings of creatures that will either poison or eat you the moment you enter the country... :) |
| 11:03.44 | cjb_ie | are there none that will poison you and _then_ eat you? |
| 11:04.44 | andylockran | there might be - the comodo dragon? |
| 11:04.50 | andylockran | Komodo maybe... |
| 11:06.12 | rwhitby | cjb: some snakes will poison and then try to eat you. |
| 11:06.40 | rwhitby | cover your ears when you walk under overpasses. |
| 11:07.01 | CM | And keep a look out for the bunyips too |
| 11:08.23 | torpor | sharkteeth is poisonou |
| 11:08.25 | torpor | +s |
| 11:08.40 | CM | Infectious might be the word |
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| 11:09.11 | DPThought | They are all no match for our Wolpertinger |
| 11:09.26 | torpor | CM: no, you will die if they touch you. |
| 11:09.34 | CM | :-P |
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| 11:09.50 | CM | DPThought: *lol* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wolpertinger.jpg |
| 11:10.05 | torpor | its not just a little infection. its a huge fuck off CHMP-CHOMP-CHOMP-Shark removal of limbs and tonsils |
| 11:10.55 | rwhitby | http://www.geocities.com/muirnin/Dropbear.jpg |
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| 11:12.00 | DPThought | rwhitby: lol |
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| 11:36.36 | cbrake_away | when was mokomakefile support for 2007.2 completed? |
| 11:37.24 | torpor | cbrake: i would say the alpha happened late last week .. |
| 11:37.37 | torpor | just from what i saw in here anyway |
| 11:38.37 | Risto | Hi all, bulding recent OM2007.2 fails after a short period of time( [update-openembedded] fails) |
| 11:39.00 | Risto | http://pastebin.com/m2cddc464 |
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| 11:40.28 | cbrake | Risto: looks like multiple heads, I'll merge them. Give me a few minutes ... |
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| 11:40.39 | torpor | argh, i am midbuild |
| 11:41.51 | hrw | torpor: then ctrl-c it, update and start |
| 11:42.00 | torpor | say when |
| 11:42.27 | cbrake | Risto: you can probably temp work around this by "cd openembedded;mtn merge" |
| 11:42.42 | Risto | cbrake: Thanks! |
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| 11:47.10 | Risto | seems I'am doing something wrong with 'mtn merge' ... ? |
| 11:47.14 | Risto | christoph@brain:/home/moko/openembedded$ mtn merge |
| 11:47.14 | Risto | mtn: 2 Köpfe auf Zweig 'org.openembedded.dev' |
| 11:47.14 | Risto | mtn: [links] a81be4a9e6a337df1765dd0899498f17ec68c272 |
| 11:47.14 | Risto | mtn: [rechts] bb0941c6eb0d7eb6f9d46101e8bc68c672d6ccc4 |
| 11:47.14 | Risto | mtn: falscher Gebrauch: Sie haben keinen geheimen Schlüssel, um Signaturen zu erstellen. |
| 11:47.15 | Risto | mtn: falscher Gebrauch: Eventuell müssen Sie 'genkey <ihre_email_adresse>' ausführen. |
| 11:47.44 | woglinde | risto wait 5 minutes |
| 11:47.51 | woglinde | we have automerger in oe |
| 11:49.00 | cbrake | Risto: the HEAD of OE seems to be merged right now, so if you "mtn pull && mtn update" that might take care of it. |
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| 11:53.57 | cbrake | why does the openmoko makefile check out the entire openmoko svn tree? |
| 11:56.18 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: "Michael 'Mickey' Lauer" <mickey at openmoko.org> Re: 2007.2 compilation failed with package uicmoc4-native-4.0.3 |
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| 12:02.06 | DukeOfURL | good morning |
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| 12:09.51 | werner666 | hi |
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| 12:13.54 | werner666 | there seems to be a syntax error somewhere in the repository. when i trie to compile the image i get: "svn: Syntax-Error in Revision-Parameter '{now}'" and it tries to downlod :http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/trunk_svn.o-hand.com_.repos.eds-dbus__now.tar.gz |
| 12:13.56 | DukeOfURL | rwhitby's Makefile seems to have undergone some major surgery |
| 12:16.12 | werner666 | any suggestions? |
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| 12:22.38 | aloril | (script) planet: Michael "mickeyl" Lauer: Conferences Ahead http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/08/23/conferences-ahead-2/ |
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| 12:25.08 | rwhitby | cbrake: it checks out the whole tree cause that was what the original official build instructions said to do. I agree that it's not necessary, and at some point (once I work out how to do a seamless transisiton) I'll probably change the makefile to only check out trunk/src |
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| 12:27.59 | rwhitby | DukeOfURL: the surgery was to migrate from 2007.1 to 2007.2 |
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| 12:28.52 | rwhitby | werner666: you don't tell us what instructions you are using to compile the image, nor do you give us the commands you typed and the context of the error. pastebin is your friend. |
| 12:31.10 | DukeOfURL | rwhitby: if you're ever in Denver I'll buy dinner--or at least drinks. |
| 12:32.11 | werner666 | i followed the instructions at the MokoMakefile-wiki page and before building the image i changed the local.conf forXephyr, i dont think i did something wring |
| 12:32.55 | rwhitby | pastebin your local.conf and the local of the commands that you typed and the error log you got. |
| 12:33.15 | werner666 | k |
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| 12:40.34 | werner666 | http://pastebin.com/d598d603a |
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| 12:47.20 | gordonsyme | w00t! 2007.2 built for me, first time ever :) |
| 12:48.04 | rwhitby | werner666: and if you remove the SRCDATE line from your local.conf it builds fine? |
| 12:52.36 | werner666 | hey, its working :), thx |
| 12:53.26 | hrw | werner666: best local.conf is DISTRO/MACHINE and DL_DIR - nothing more |
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| 12:54.30 | werner666 | ok, i should notice that on the wiki-page |
| 12:54.37 | rwhitby | hrw: openmoko site.conf does DL_DIR for you, so you can remove that line too |
| 12:54.46 | DukeOfURL | 2007.2 build successful, flash successful, I'm more excited now than ever. |
| 12:56.49 | mickeyl | congrats |
| 12:57.04 | mickeyl | please post it about it... it's about time for some success stories to contrast the "can't get to build anything" :D |
| 12:57.06 | woglinde | hehe lol |
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| 12:57.14 | srm | hello moko! |
| 12:57.27 | srm | *knockknock* |
| 12:57.46 | gordonsyme | mickeyl: 2007.2 built for me too! :) |
| 12:57.55 | DukeOfURL | congrats to rwhitby, mickeyl, and all the others! |
| 12:58.05 | srm | *a |
| 12:58.06 | mickeyl | gordonsyme: yay! :) |
| 12:59.00 | CM | And it looks great too :) |
| 12:59.28 | hrw | rwhitby: and I did - in their site.conf |
| 12:59.41 | DukeOfURL | is there a way to put the Neo into sleep mode? |
| 12:59.57 | hrw | rwhitby: I have DL_DIR on nfs server shared between all my boxes |
| 13:00.29 | rwhitby | hrw: I just symlink to a common directory :-) |
| 13:00.34 | gordonsyme | mickeyl: fairly certain that xtscal doesn't run when /etc/pointercal isn't there. I removed the pointercal recommended dep from openembedded/packages/tslib/tslib_1.0.bb and rebuilt. No pointer calibration routine and no usable clicking. Where should I file a bug? OpenMoko or OpenEmbedded? |
| 13:01.05 | mickeyl | OE |
| 13:01.10 | rwhitby | DukeOfURL: 2007.2 has a menu on the power button press-and-hold-a-short-while |
| 13:01.11 | mickeyl | although that really surprises me |
| 13:01.32 | gordonsyme | mickeyl: I am running it in qemu, not sure if that makes a difference... |
| 13:01.57 | DukeOfURL | full PM? |
| 13:02.16 | DukeOfURL | ahhhh |
| 13:02.19 | FuzzyCat | goes to sleep after about 1.4 nano seconds |
| 13:02.55 | rwhitby | gordonsyme: the clicking is 90 degrees rotated in qemu |
| 13:03.30 | gordonsyme | rwhitby: normally, yes. I removed the pointercal package and don't seem to have any clicking at all |
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| 13:05.56 | DukeOfURL | I didn't get the screen registration screen after flashing. |
| 13:06.51 | Elrond | mickeyl - BTW: Didn't you intend to commit my dialer1 patch despite .1 being dead? ;o) |
| 13:07.42 | mickeyl | Elrond: will do it right now. have the bugnumber handy? |
| 13:07.58 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[P1_Owners]] [[User_talk:HaraldWelte]] [[OpenMoko2007.2/ru]] [[Flashing_openmoko]] [[User:Cray]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Athens]] [[Translation]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups]] [[Buying_Interest_List]] |
| 13:08.48 | Elrond | mickeyl - #631 :) |
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| 13:09.29 | CM | Toshiba will start selling an 8GB Micro SDHC card in January 2008.. Nice! |
| 13:09.34 | FuzzyCat | do you think we can have a neo with some mass storeage.... |
| 13:09.46 | FuzzyCat | I man, now that I've got mysql installed... |
| 13:09.50 | FuzzyCat | mean |
| 13:10.10 | rwhitby | 4GB microSD is not mass storage? |
| 13:10.15 | CM | FuzzyCat: Not Postgres? |
| 13:10.25 | XorA | mickeyl: your adding of directfb to depends of gst-plugins-bad doesnt seem to fix the problem |
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| 13:10.34 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03mickey * r2811 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-main.c: openmoko-dialer1: don't segfault if dbus is not running. thanks Elrond. closes #631 |
| 13:10.48 | FuzzyCat | CM: not yet :) |
| 13:10.52 | CM | Hehe |
| 13:11.02 | mickeyl | XorA: no? interesting. this came out of the blue. gst-plugins-bad never failed for me. i just seen something wrt to directfb and thought there's a dependency missing |
| 13:11.24 | mickeyl | XorA: i think i know what could be the problem, but i can't fix until next week. I'll be offline for the next couple of days |
| 13:11.30 | XorA | find tmp/ -name "directfb.h" returns no results, I guess directfb staging is borked |
| 13:11.32 | mickeyl | well, let me see whether i can fix it in the next 5 minutes |
| 13:12.12 | mickeyl | oe@mahavidya:/space/fic/openmoko-oe.dev/fic-gta01/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include/directfb$ ls -la |
| 13:12.13 | mickeyl | total 292 |
| 13:12.13 | mickeyl | drwxr-xr-x 4 oe gta01 4096 Aug 20 12:27 . |
| 13:12.13 | mickeyl | drwxr-xr-x 101 oe gta01 8192 Aug 23 10:47 .. |
| 13:12.13 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 1799 Aug 20 12:27 dfb_types.h |
| 13:12.16 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 2151 Aug 20 12:27 dfiff.h |
| 13:12.18 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 2953 Aug 20 12:27 dgiff.h |
| 13:12.20 | mickeyl | drwxr-xr-x 2 oe gta01 4096 Aug 20 12:27 direct |
| 13:12.22 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 188399 Aug 20 12:27 directfb.h |
| 13:12.24 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 24404 Aug 20 12:27 directfb_keyboard.h |
| 13:12.26 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 13228 Aug 20 12:27 directfb_keynames.h |
| 13:12.28 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 10629 Aug 20 12:27 directfb_strings.h |
| 13:12.30 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 12032 Aug 20 12:27 directfb_util.h |
| 13:12.32 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 1434 Aug 20 12:27 directfb_version.h |
| 13:12.34 | mickeyl | -rw-r--r-- 1 oe gta01 2725 Aug 20 12:27 directfbgl.h |
| 13:12.36 | mickeyl | drwxr-xr-x 3 oe gta01 4096 Aug 20 12:27 fusion |
| 13:12.38 | mickeyl | oops, sorry :D |
| 13:12.40 | mickeyl | looks good here |
| 13:13.07 | CM | Hehe |
| 13:13.13 | XorA | tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include/directfb/directfb.h |
| 13:13.15 | rwhitby | "let me see whether i can fix it in the next 5 minutes" <- famous last words before going offline for a couple of days ... |
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| 13:13.21 | XorA | here too, I musta typoed on the find |
| 13:14.02 | mickeyl | XorA: perhaps it's looking for directfb/directfb.h ? |
| 13:14.04 | mickeyl | or vice versa |
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| 13:14.11 | mickeyl | (prefix problem) |
| 13:14.25 | XorA | mickeyl: time for --disable-directfb |
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| 13:15.24 | XorA | configure:35236: checking for DIRECTFB |
| 13:15.24 | XorA | configure:35241: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors "directfb >= 0.9.24" |
| 13:15.30 | XorA | so it finds it ok |
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| 13:16.48 | gordonsyme | XorA: in the failing files if you change "#include <directfb.h>" to "#include <directfb/directfb.h>" it should work |
| 13:17.20 | mickeyl | i guess we should fix the directfb.pc then |
| 13:17.24 | mickeyl | anyways, I'm off for some days |
| 13:17.25 | mickeyl | cu |
| 13:17.45 | XorA | I shall disable directfb until someone wants it |
| 13:18.04 | torpor | i want SDL on FB |
| 13:18.10 | torpor | so probably at some point directfb would be nice. |
| 13:18.21 | XorA | torpor: you volunteered to patch it then |
| 13:18.26 | torpor | don't wanna be limited to only writing for X. |
| 13:18.29 | torpor | whats wrong with it? |
| 13:18.34 | XorA | see above |
| 13:18.59 | mjr | well |
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| 13:19.09 | mjr | If you write for SDL, you're not limited to X. So there. |
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| 13:20.35 | zedstar | im updating with MokoMakefile and it is breaking on qt4-x11-free...anyone had this? |
| 13:21.24 | CM | zedstar: Yes, I've heard people asking about it, but not lately, and i don't know what was wrong |
| 13:22.11 | CM | zedstar: Are you building 2007.2 with the latest makefile? |
| 13:22.13 | torpor | mjr: i see no SDL on my neo |
| 13:22.38 | torpor | zedstar: bitbake -cmrproper qt4-x11-free |
| 13:22.52 | mjr | well, that there is a different matter... |
| 13:22.54 | zedstar | cm: i just did the update sequence in my existing working 2007.1 build |
| 13:23.11 | torpor | clean up and try to build it again. |
| 13:23.12 | zedstar | torper: great will give it go |
| 13:23.57 | CM | zedstar: Or you can change to the new version by a "make update-makefile ; make update ; make setup" :) |
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| 13:24.31 | zedstar | CM: yeh that is what i did in the 2007.1 build |
| 13:24.41 | CM | Ah, ok. |
| 13:25.01 | yoyo | hi all |
| 13:25.07 | CM | I never managed to continute from my 2007.1 builds. Gave up and restarted in a clean dir. ;) |
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| 13:25.27 | zedstar | CM: ah yeh that probably is a good plan |
| 13:25.59 | CM | zedstar: But it's a time-consuming one too |
| 13:26.06 | zedstar | luckily it renamed my existing working 2007.1 i thought it hosed it down |
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| 13:29.16 | torpor | i also gave up on 2007.1 and just moved to 2007.2 straight away |
| 13:29.44 | torpor | took 5 days to complete my first build .. still haven't really booted my own images and stuff yet. . |
| 13:30.08 | zedstar | i had some joy with 200.7.1 managed to compile and install a Scheme interpreter on my Neo |
| 13:31.20 | pschulz01 | zedstar: Which one? |
| 13:31.21 | aloril | pschulz01: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (and also SH1, SH1_FAQ, Neo1973, Developer_preview and Neo1973_Hardware#GTA01Bv4 pages) (Hopefully these links answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 13:31.38 | zedstar | pschuz01: Chicken Scheme |
| 13:33.06 | aloril | hmm.. 15 minutes is probably too long time |
| 13:33.36 | pschulz01 | aloril: I did wait a bit. |
| 13:34.40 | aloril | yeah, but I think when this trigger is more often useful when it happens soon and less often useful when it happens when > 10 minutes have passed |
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| 13:39.32 | ewon | a scheme interpreter? |
| 13:39.34 | ewon | hah |
| 13:39.37 | ewon | porta-lisp |
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| 13:46.44 | juco | hey, don't knock scheme |
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| 13:47.39 | Risto | I think that I've messed some of the mtn data for OM2007.2 on my machine :-( any chance to repair that? http://pastebin.com/d116a302d |
| 13:47.41 | juco | I don't know chicken scheme |
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| 13:48.15 | juco | my initial googling shows it as a scheme compiler |
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| 13:48.21 | juco | does it have a repl as well? |
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| 13:48.31 | zedstar | juco yeh |
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| 13:48.39 | juco | cool |
| 13:48.54 | zedstar | juco check it out it has some great libraries and community |
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| 13:51.23 | juco | was there an existing arm port that you started with? |
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| 13:51.53 | zedstar | juco: no.... i used the tools built from MokoMakeFile but just via autoconf route |
| 13:52.00 | juco | neat |
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| 13:52.20 | zedstar | i have built it though on the zaurus and nokia 770 with other tools...it is very portable |
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| 13:55.24 | cayco | hi, guys! Anyone got problem with dfbvideosink.h:25:22: error: directfb.h: No such file or directory |
| 13:55.45 | XorA | cayco: update |
| 13:55.49 | XorA | cayco: just fixed that |
| 13:55.57 | cayco | hehe, thx |
| 13:56.03 | cayco | i was updating since moring ;) |
| 13:56.09 | yoyo | dfb fuuj |
| 13:56.18 | cayco | s/moring/morning/ |
| 13:56.31 | FuzzyCat | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.37 | FuzzyCat | s/ / / |
| 13:56.41 | FuzzyCat | :D |
| 13:57.27 | FuzzyCat | CM: building it ok now or still kernel issues? |
| 14:03.21 | Elrond | mickey|offline - Thanks. :) |
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| 14:06.55 | yoyo | yyy qtopia-core |
| 14:07.06 | yoyo | w t f |
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| 14:08.38 | aloril | (script) planet: Marcin "hrw" Juszkiewicz: Why using of DISTRO/MACHINE variables in local.conf is wrong http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/08/23/why-using-of-distromachine-variables-in-localconf-is-wrong/ |
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| 14:13.34 | yoyo | what is doing qtopia core on gnu phone? |
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| 14:13.58 | mdt | yoyo, good point. :D |
| 14:15.05 | yoyo | probably python dep? |
| 14:15.13 | yoyo | by why? |
| 14:15.24 | FuzzyCat | another reason to bin python |
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| 14:16.01 | mdt | python depends on qt? |
| 14:16.22 | yoyo | python, uicmoc4 and so on is building and puff qtopia is downloading. strange |
| 14:16.29 | mdt | FuzzyCat, what was the first one? |
| 14:16.54 | mdt | yoyo, i build python without qtopia yesterday |
| 14:17.03 | FuzzyCat | it's not perl, C/C++, vb6 ;) |
| 14:17.41 | FuzzyCat | tbh, I'm not fond of big scripting languages on an embedded device |
| 14:17.55 | zecke | yoyo: a) QtopiaCore is GPL (probably soon v3 as well) b) Check if it is on your phone... |
| 14:18.11 | yoyo | from make qtopia popups right after uicmoc4-native |
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| 14:18.18 | mdt | FuzzyCat, hm.. is see js on the neo - even fatter than python |
| 14:18.34 | FuzzyCat | is it installed? |
| 14:19.00 | mdt | FuzzyCat, js? i saw it in 2007.1, yes |
| 14:19.06 | FuzzyCat | for the browser ? |
| 14:19.56 | yoyo | zecke: it looks like qmake ore so needs some headers from it only download for now |
| 14:20.08 | yoyo | yy mtd |
| 14:20.57 | yoyo | I see I need go sleep :P |
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| 14:23.36 | yoyo | out of the dashboard. it is possible to bay that holding think for moko? |
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| 14:24.52 | mdt | FuzzyCat, i don't know. webkit has its own included as far as i know. but there is a package 'js' also |
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| 14:26.04 | sagacis|neo | moin |
| 14:26.53 | stefan_schmidt | Anyone tips for a good A2DP headset? |
| 14:27.16 | stefan_schmidt | As bluez 3.15 is out with support for need I like to test it with my neo. |
| 14:28.06 | yoyo | stefan_schmidt: tray http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_use_a_bluetooth_headset |
| 14:28.42 | FuzzyCat | http://www.pixmania.co.uk/dev/gui_web/common_dsp/zoom.php?itag=5899&ArticleId=184046 |
| 14:28.50 | stefan_schmidt | yoyo: It's not about how to use, but what to buy. :) |
| 14:29.03 | stefan_schmidt | yoyo: A sorry. Just seen the list. |
| 14:29.09 | SpeedEvil | Amazon has lots of headsets, with reviews. |
| 14:30.24 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: That one looks nice. Do you have a price handy? |
| 14:30.34 | FuzzyCat | was 65 gbp |
| 14:31.01 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: OK, not bad. |
| 14:31.17 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: You have it yourself? |
| 14:31.33 | FuzzyCat | no, but about to buy :) |
| 14:31.40 | SpeedEvil | I'd like a thumbstick on each phone... |
| 14:31.48 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: Ah, any idea about battery runtime? |
| 14:31.57 | stefan_schmidt | SpeedEvil: :) |
| 14:32.51 | FuzzyCat | stefan_schmidt, !!!! |
| 14:32.52 | FuzzyCat | http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=124523 |
| 14:33.02 | stefan_schmidt | yoyo: The gentoo wiki needs perhaps an update as bluez 3.15, released today, has directly an alsa plugin for A2DP |
| 14:33.20 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: Wow |
| 14:33.51 | yoyo | stefan_schmidt: I know :) |
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| 14:34.06 | stefan_schmidt | yoyo: heh, ok |
| 14:34.42 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: Now I need to find it in a german online store |
| 14:35.06 | FuzzyCat | expansys.de ? |
| 14:35.18 | FuzzyCat | http://www.expansys.de/d.aspx?i=124523 |
| 14:35.40 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: lol, not aware it exists |
| 14:35.58 | stefan_schmidt | 45€ is a nice price. |
| 14:36.19 | stefan_schmidt | I search a bit more later and order one tomorrow. :) |
| 14:36.26 | FuzzyCat | stefan_schmidt, but now I can;t read that page... it's all... all foreign :P |
| 14:36.35 | yoyo | I have http://www.turbogadgets.com/2007/02/05/headphones-are-back-in-style/ and Im so happy from them |
| 14:37.11 | stefan_schmidt | yoyo: Looks a bit big. How is the battery runtime? |
| 14:37.46 | yoyo | ~3-4 without charging |
| 14:37.54 | FuzzyCat | wft! |
| 14:38.05 | FuzzyCat | why is qemu a build requirement? |
| 14:38.19 | woglinde | fuzzycut locales build |
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| 14:38.41 | shadoknight | mornin' all |
| 14:38.43 | FuzzyCat | I build them fine without it.. |
| 14:38.44 | woglinde | but when you dont nett locales you can disable it |
| 14:38.46 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: As woglinde said. You can disable the locales build in your local conf |
| 14:38.51 | stefan_schmidt | woglinde: :) |
| 14:38.52 | woglinde | yeah then read your locla.conf |
| 14:38.54 | FuzzyCat | I do |
| 14:38.58 | woglinde | locale.conf |
| 14:39.05 | guaqua | yoyo: cool |
| 14:39.18 | FuzzyCat | locale.conf? |
| 14:39.24 | shadoknight | so, I finally got everything built (including QEMU!) - now I can't click on anything. |
| 14:39.24 | FuzzyCat | or local.conf |
| 14:39.41 | shadoknight | references to old messages on mailing lists from google offer a possible explanation |
| 14:39.55 | woglinde | args local.conf |
| 14:39.56 | shadoknight | for 2007.2, are folks building against openembedded HEAD or the 'known good' that's used for 2007.1? |
| 14:39.59 | woglinde | without e |
| 14:40.45 | FuzzyCat | ok, I have : |
| 14:40.46 | FuzzyCat | ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" |
| 14:40.47 | FuzzyCat | GLIBC_GENERATE_LOCALES = "en_GB.UTF-8" |
| 14:41.02 | stefan_schmidt | FuzzyCat: ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0 does the trick |
| 14:41.10 | stefan_schmidt | "0" |
| 14:41.32 | FuzzyCat | ah okies... since when though? I've built with this lots of times.. is this a new one? |
| 14:42.12 | FuzzyCat | oh well. |
| 14:43.01 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2813 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/artwork/icons/openmoko-standard/scalable/stock/ (11 files): * Fix misnamed icons (as per bug 679) |
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| 14:43.21 | FuzzyCat | naughty icons |
| 14:43.56 | shadoknight | . o O ( always changing their darn names... ) |
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| 14:57.52 | DukeOfURL | dfbvideosink.c is throwing compilation errors... what changed? |
| 14:58.31 | shadoknight | for 2007.2, are folks building against openembedded HEAD or the 'known good' that's used for 2007.1? |
| 14:59.03 | shadoknight | :) |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2814 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog configure.ac src/dialer-main.c src/moko-notify.c): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * configure.ac: |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/dialer-main.c: (main): |
| 14:59.04 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-notify.c: (play_timeout), (on_sound_finished), |
| 14:59.05 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (moko_notify_start_ringtone), (moko_notify_stop_ringtone), |
| 14:59.09 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (moko_notify_start), (moko_notify_stop), (moko_notify_init): |
| 14:59.42 | FuzzyCat | ftyg |
| 15:00.09 | guaqua | lots of commits lately :) |
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| 15:02.26 | DukeOfURL | directfb.h has gone missing |
| 15:03.17 | shadoknight | . o O ( oh, wait, I don't have commit access... ) |
| 15:03.30 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2815 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-today2/ (ChangeLog src/today-main.c): |
| 15:03.30 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Thomas Wood <thomas@openedhand.com> |
| 15:03.30 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/today-main.c: (main): Don't force theme settings |
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| 15:04.40 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2816 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-gta02.patch: * add basic GTA02v2 support (GPIO init, ...) |
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| 15:06.19 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2817 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-notify.c): |
| 15:06.19 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 15:06.19 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-notify.c: (on_sound_finished), |
| 15:06.19 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (moko_notify_start_ringtone): |
| 15:06.19 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Add some printf's. Change the sample name to one we know is working. |
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| 15:07.31 | FuzzyCat | python! |
| 15:08.03 | SpeedEvil | A bluetooth python? |
| 15:09.38 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[User:Dcorking]] [[Talk:MacOS_X]] [[MacOS_X]] [[Template:POWER]] [[Template:AUX]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Ingolstadt]] |
| 15:10.03 | XorA | hmm, 2007.2 seems to have gained a font for the blind |
| 15:10.15 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: no you idiot a bluetooth gps python |
| 15:10.27 | CM | XorA: You mean in mrxvt? |
| 15:10.34 | XorA | CM: no, everywhere |
| 15:10.52 | CM | Oh, ok. Haven't tried todays build |
| 15:10.52 | SpeedEvil | OMG. Bluetooth gps pythons on an oblate spheroid! |
| 15:10.54 | xzcvczx | XorA: yeah didnt you know the screen can morph itself into a braile screen |
| 15:11.35 | xzcvczx | SpeedEvil: a transparent oblate spheroid even |
| 15:12.11 | FuzzyCat | does python get put in the default build or is it just an ipk |
| 15:12.39 | shadoknight | CM: Hi! |
| 15:12.47 | CM | shadoknight: :) |
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| 15:13.28 | shadoknight | CM: so, if you care, my qemu build problem was a lingering '-march' in my make.conf |
| 15:13.52 | CM | shadoknight: Ah, i486/i686 thing? |
| 15:14.40 | xzcvczx | shadoknight: yeah that fixed it for me as well |
| 15:14.55 | shadoknight | cm: probably - the '-march=pentium4' was apparently causing something in the build chain to create a tool that couldn't actually do the register mapping that needed to be done. |
| 15:15.17 | shadoknight | :) |
| 15:15.37 | shadoknight | so, I assume you guys are using openembedded HEAD for 2007.2, right? |
| 15:15.54 | shadoknight | (i.e., you're not hand-modifying MokoMakefile to point to the old 'known good' OE) |
| 15:15.58 | mdt | shadoknight, to be earnest - i don't know... |
| 15:16.19 | mdt | shadoknight, ah, yes, i didn't modify Makfile |
| 15:16.31 | shadoknight | mdt: cool - thanks |
| 15:16.40 | shadoknight | so, it's probably just a qemu config/startup issue or some such |
| 15:16.53 | shadoknight | anyone have any more news on GTA02? |
| 15:16.59 | shadoknight | (on track for October?) |
| 15:18.30 | SpeedEvil | No news is no news. |
| 15:18.42 | mdt | shadoknight, when i jumped on 2007.2 i had to remove everything but the makefile and startet from scratch. i tried 2 times without and the old stuff trashed the build |
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| 15:19.14 | shadoknight | mdt: thanks - I've been rebuilding from scratch every time I have a problem because, well, I'm a glutton for punishment |
| 15:19.15 | shadoknight | :p |
| 15:19.38 | shadoknight | mdt: I've had register relocation issues with qemu, until I found that -march thing. |
| 15:20.17 | shadoknight | speedevil: thanks for the update! :) |
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| 15:29.30 | juri_ | i'm in your linux terminal server, printing my test pages. n00b. ;) |
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| 15:31.45 | mdt | FuzzyCat, you would prefere one fat python package including everything? :) |
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| 15:34.10 | yoyo | crash on qtopia-core |
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| 15:36.29 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2818 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-notify.c): |
| 15:36.29 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 15:36.29 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-notify.c: (on_sound_finished), |
| 15:36.29 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (moko_notify_start_ringtone): |
| 15:36.29 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Remove debugging printf's as everything works! |
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| 15:38.41 | DukeOfURL | the dialer works? |
| 15:39.34 | DukeOfURL | I can't get my T-Mobile SIM to work. When I turn-up GSM the icons in the top panel disappear. :-( |
| 15:39.49 | DukeOfURL | and everything is frozen |
| 15:40.27 | Waldmokomeister | hi! i am new to irc and using kopete - do you see anny white spaces at the end of my line? |
| 15:40.28 | aloril | Waldmokomeister: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (and also SH1, SH1_FAQ, Neo1973, Developer_preview and Neo1973_Hardware#GTA01Bv4 pages) (Hopefully these links answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 15:40.31 | CM | Same here, the panel crashes a lot |
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| 15:40.43 | DukeOfURL | should I be concerned with this message? "preferred version 2.5 of glibc not available" |
| 15:40.45 | mintee_ | is there a known flaw with the dialer in 2007.2 |
| 15:40.51 | CM | Waldmokomeister: So it seems |
| 15:40.58 | mjr | DukeOfURL, before concluding that a SIM doesn't work, you should try manual dialing with libgsmd-tool |
| 15:41.03 | mintee_ | everytime i open it and try to hit a button, it closes and goes back to Today |
| 15:41.04 | mintee_ | ehh |
| 15:41.30 | DukeOfURL | I'm presently not in the T-Mobile coverage area so my hands are tied... |
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| 15:41.44 | guaqua | Waldmokomeister: to get the full out of irc, i suggest to use a real irc client, like konversation |
| 15:41.45 | DukeOfURL | And the Cingular SIM definitely won't work |
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| 15:42.23 | mintee_ | my T-mobile card seemed to work fine, until i updated to 2007.2 and now it crashes everytime |
| 15:42.29 | riot | hmm. i received my neo with a dented microSD-slot-holder :/ |
| 15:42.41 | mintee_ | well. not crash, just the dialer closes |
| 15:42.48 | FuzzyCat | mdt: good point... |
| 15:42.50 | riot | folks at the factory should be more careful! |
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| 15:43.11 | DukeOfURL | my dialer closes if GSM isn't on (which is logical) |
| 15:44.01 | Zic | Have you got a date of release of Neo1973 final/public version or it is still developing ? |
| 15:44.04 | Zic | (hi) |
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| 15:44.54 | mintee_ | DukeOfURL, ah, ok, that'll explain that |
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| 15:45.07 | riot | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:45.07 | riot | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:45.16 | riot | eeks.. sorry :) |
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| 15:45.29 | DukeOfURL | now we all know! |
| 15:45.36 | radiorental | my working t-mob sim card on 2007.1 will not 'power-up attenna' 100% of the time on 2007.2 |
| 15:45.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2819 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-dialer.c): |
| 15:45.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 15:45.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-dialer.c: (on_talking_accept_call), (on_incoming_call): |
| 15:45.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Make sure we don't do anything on an incmong call if we have already |
| 15:45.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: accepted it. |
| 15:46.44 | radiorental | crashes top panel, requires re-boot |
| 15:47.03 | DukeOfURL | I was able to make a call with t-mob using libgsmd-tools in 2007.1. I guess I'll have to drive to t-mobile land and try it with 2007.2. |
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| 15:50.13 | guaqua | ooh...the new ui is a lot better |
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| 15:51.26 | mintee_ | Oh yeah. |
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| 15:55.53 | DukeOfURL | had to modify dfbvideosink.h, dfb-example.c, and gstdfb.c: change #include <directfb.h> to #include <directfb/directfb.h> |
| 15:56.08 | DukeOfURL | now it compiles |
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| 15:57.23 | dcordes | ls |
| 15:57.25 | dcordes | ls |
| 15:57.38 | dcordes | wrong term sry |
| 15:57.39 | mdt | DukeOfURL, what do you try to compile? |
| 16:02.10 | gordonsyme | DukeOfURL: I had to do that too. Had to run off to do real-life things before I could make a patch |
| 16:02.22 | gordonsyme | mdt: probably the ugly set of gstreamer plugins |
| 16:02.43 | gordonsyme | mdt: or maybe it's the "bad" ones.. can't remember |
| 16:04.23 | yoyo | all: put not compiling uicmoc4-native on bugzilla? |
| 16:06.58 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Sean Moss-Pultz <sean at openmoko.com> Re: Screenshots |
| 16:07.31 | DukeOfURL | now top panel doesn't crash! |
| 16:08.13 | Stephmw | DukeOfURL: you sound disappointed |
| 16:08.25 | DukeOfURL | i'm grinning ear to ear |
| 16:08.54 | DukeOfURL | I don't have cell coverage here, so the antenna icon remains with a "?" |
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| 16:10.31 | FuzzyCat | that's the not registered icon |
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| 16:12.54 | hhf423 | sticks and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt me |
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| 16:13.11 | FuzzyCat | I didn;t say anything |
| 16:13.16 | PBeck | servus |
| 16:13.23 | FuzzyCat | no |
| 16:13.26 | FuzzyCat | you don;t |
| 16:13.45 | hhf423 | does it restart all changed packages? |
| 16:14.07 | Stephmw | isn't that the responsibility of each package? |
| 16:14.20 | mdt | did someone also try to do a mke2fs on the sd? |
| 16:14.28 | FuzzyCat | hhf423, was going to point you at my packages + conf so you could get the non default stuff (gpe-filemanager etc) |
| 16:14.41 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: oooh, please do |
| 16:15.00 | cdbot2 | * * OM Bug 747 has been created by yoyo(AT)ghost.pl |
| 16:15.02 | cdbot2 | * * uicmoc4-native_4.3.1.bb |
| 16:15.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=747 |
| 16:15.30 | FuzzyCat | http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/ ... copy the conf file to /etc/ipkg/ on the neo... then ipkg update... |
| 16:15.55 | FuzzyCat | then you should be able to ipkg install gpe-filemanager |
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| 16:16.49 | hhf423 | doh, an other day and gsmd still broken or what? |
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| 16:19.03 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: looks like it works. |
| 16:21.39 | hhf423 | how would one know what there all is to install? |
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| 16:22.05 | torpor | FuzzyCat: how do you get the neo to see the 'net over usb0? |
| 16:22.44 | hhf423 | torpor: you mean how to get to the internet from the neo? |
| 16:22.46 | yoyo | plug and play :P |
| 16:22.50 | torpor | yeah |
| 16:23.07 | hhf423 | torpor: did you set up routing on your linux box and all? |
| 16:23.12 | zedstar | just and an entry for /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 16:23.37 | torpor | no, internet sharing on my mac osx .. same basic thing. just wondering what the routes are like .. |
| 16:23.41 | El_Salvador | http://weblog.infoworld.com/yager/archives/2007/08/apple_gives_lin.html |
| 16:23.47 | hhf423 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 16:24.06 | hhf423 | torpor: you need to make your mac route from and to the neo |
| 16:24.28 | hhf423 | torpor: the only thing you need to do on your neo is to set the nameserver via /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:24.31 | torpor | yeah, should be working .. |
| 16:24.33 | torpor | i'll try it out .. |
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| 16:25.03 | hhf423 | e.g. my resolv.conf reads "nameserver 192.168.1.1" |
| 16:25.56 | torpor | i don't think it can be done with internet sharing alone .. but what would the routes be from linux? |
| 16:26.27 | zedstar | has anyone got networking working from within qemu? |
| 16:26.29 | hozer | I assume that a message like |
| 16:26.30 | hozer | <4>rxrpc: Unknown symbol __aeabi_idiv |
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| 16:26.39 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2820 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-notify.c): |
| 16:26.39 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 16:26.39 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-notify.c: (play), (play_timeout), |
| 16:26.40 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (moko_notify_start_ringtone), (moko_notify_stop_ringtone): |
| 16:26.40 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Some ringtone fixes, so there is a gap between playback. |
| 16:26.50 | torpor | well anyway, whats the .ipk dependencies for gpe-filemanager, hhf423 ? i'll dl it by hand and install it .. |
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| 16:27.44 | ObeLisK_12183 | hey @ ALL ^^ |
| 16:28.02 | hhf423 | torpor: the routes and iptables you can find here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking right at the beginning in Manual Method and Automated Method |
| 16:28.03 | ObeLisK_12183 | can somebody help me? =D on this site here: www.pennergame.de/ref.php?uid=12183 |
| 16:28.03 | aloril | Commands: counter (see estimated time until P1), counter_msg (set message for counter), faq (gives this link: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ ) |
| 16:28.05 | ObeLisK_12183 | thanks :)) |
| 16:28.07 | zecke | oh today was the moko people berlin meeting? |
| 16:28.35 | torpor | thanks hhf423 i'll try to get it working in osx. |
| 16:29.40 | hhf423 | torpor: then you can wget the scaredycat repository ipkg config and do the install from there |
| 16:30.04 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: cool, it worked. I had to restart, though to see the gpe filemanager |
| 16:30.08 | FuzzyCat | sorry topor.. was away |
| 16:30.41 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: will you add that to the repository wiki page or shall I? |
| 16:30.44 | torpor | okay its not so easy in osx .. either that or i gotta reboot to get the right routes set up in the right order or something (i've got many virtual eth's under OSX..) |
| 16:30.59 | torpor | i'll try to get it working though, coz i'd sure like to have gpe filemanager on board soon .. ;) |
| 16:32.49 | FuzzyCat | http://pastbin.ca/668117 |
| 16:33.18 | FuzzyCat | oops |
| 16:33.22 | FuzzyCat | http://pastebin.ca/668117 |
| 16:33.34 | torpor | thats on linux right? |
| 16:33.39 | FuzzyCat | ya |
| 16:34.11 | FuzzyCat | hhf423, yeah, apps don't seem to show up until you reboot, which is a bit windowsesque |
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| 16:34.51 | yoyo | sii a |
| 16:35.50 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: so how many packages do you have there or only the filemanager? |
| 16:36.09 | FuzzyCat | i added todo and some others... |
| 16:36.55 | FuzzyCat | I'll update them again after my build completes.. I've got it all working from a couple of scripts to rsync for me |
| 16:37.30 | hhf423 | ok |
| 16:37.49 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2821 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-notify.c): |
| 16:37.49 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 16:37.49 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-notify.c: (play), (play_timeout), |
| 16:37.49 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (moko_notify_start_ringtone), (moko_notify_stop_ringtone): |
| 16:37.49 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Add some debugging stuff. |
| 16:37.57 | dcordes | how to change brightness in command line? |
| 16:38.12 | hhf423 | when I ssh to my phone I always get "Failed to add the host to the list of known hosts (/home/hhf/.ssh/known_hosts)" why is that? |
| 16:38.27 | FuzzyCat | was it in there already? |
| 16:38.45 | hozer | so I assume this: <4>rxrpc: Unknown symbol __aeabi_idiv |
| 16:38.48 | FuzzyCat | if you reflash your fs then you need to edit the known hosts and remove the old one |
| 16:38.58 | hozer | means there's some floating point in the rxrpc module |
| 16:39.07 | dcordes | eh! I asked something I want my money back if I don't get support!! |
| 16:39.11 | FuzzyCat | either that or you don;t have a .ssh/ |
| 16:39.20 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: the point is that this file does not exist |
| 16:39.34 | kristian-m | zecke oh - maybe it's not over yet... |
| 16:39.45 | FuzzyCat | hhf423, do you have a .ssh dir ? |
| 16:39.53 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: yes |
| 16:40.00 | hhf423 | there is only a config in there |
| 16:40.08 | FuzzyCat | so make sure permissions are correct |
| 16:40.24 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: which should be what? |
| 16:41.55 | FuzzyCat | dcordes, something in /sys/devices/platform/ ... |
| 16:42.01 | hhf423 | ah chown hhf.hhf .ssh |
| 16:42.09 | FuzzyCat | can't remember off the top of my head |
| 16:42.28 | dcordes | :D lucky one good for you moko company thing that you answered!! |
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| 16:43.25 | DukeOfURL | has anyone been able to add minimo to the openmoko image? |
| 16:43.26 | dcordes | rofl |
| 16:43.29 | njpatel | dcordes: echo "5000" > /sys/class/backlight/gta01-bl/brightness - value can be 0 to 5000 |
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| 16:43.44 | FuzzyCat | there.. |
| 16:43.51 | dcordes | great thx |
| 16:43.52 | FuzzyCat | now add it to te wiki dcordes |
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| 16:43.59 | FuzzyCat | or we'll take your neo away |
| 16:44.08 | dcordes | You mean my zaurus |
| 16:44.19 | dcordes | I'm just trying moko ui on my angstrom :P |
| 16:44.50 | dcordes | bwaha |
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| 16:45.00 | dcordes | haha ASPj wtf |
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| 16:45.15 | ASPj | Mister Fernando Cordes |
| 16:45.21 | ASPj | we have been searching for you |
| 16:46.46 | ASPj | Mr cordes, please stop stealing my files |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2822 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-notify.c): |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-notify.c: (moko_notify_start_ringtone): |
| 16:46.50 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Check playing status before starting playback. |
| 16:47.11 | dcordes | ASPj: I have no idea what you talking about, sir |
| 16:47.26 | ASPj | we will see about that, Mr Cordes |
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| 16:49.17 | zecke | pH5: hey, you are still meeting? |
| 16:49.32 | pH5 | zecke: hi, basically I just arrived |
| 16:50.39 | kristian-m | oh, so o |
| 16:50.48 | kristian-m | ..one could still come? |
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| 16:54.39 | hhf423 | cccb at 19.00 is not crowded, people will be arriving all evening |
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| 16:56.09 | kristian-m | hhf423 i suspect that, but it's nice weather so maybe it wouldn't get that crouwded. - on my way :-) |
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| 16:56.40 | hhf423 | since when do hackers notice the state of the weather or even care? :-) |
| 16:56.59 | FuzzyCat | hhf423, gpe-timesheet, gpe-todo and gpe-filemanager atm .. |
| 16:57.02 | ASPj | since the kweather plugin for kde :P |
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| 16:57.12 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: ah, thanks |
| 16:57.16 | FuzzyCat | I'll probably stick up the others I see in the build too :) |
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| 16:57.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2823 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-dialer.c): |
| 16:57.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 16:57.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-dialer.c: (on_keypad_dial_clicked), |
| 16:57.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (on_talking_accept_call): |
| 16:57.58 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Stop crashing on second outgoing call. |
| 16:58.00 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Log incoming calls properly with the journal. |
| 16:58.52 | hhf423 | cool |
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| 17:02.17 | khorben | so about how many people are working at the cccb here? |
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| 17:02.56 | FuzzyCat | hurry up |
| 17:03.17 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: on timesheet and gpe todo I both get "unable to open database: " etc |
| 17:03.31 | FuzzyCat | :o |
| 17:03.32 | hhf423 | FuzzyCat: try it with a pointed stick |
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| 17:06.22 | gamin | any news, when the next batch of neo1973s is ready? |
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| 17:08.27 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 03njp * r2824 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/applications/openmoko-dialer2/ (ChangeLog src/moko-dialer.c): |
| 17:08.27 | CIA-20 | openmoko: 2007-08-23 Neil J. Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 17:08.27 | CIA-20 | openmoko: * src/moko-dialer.c: (on_talking_accept_call), |
| 17:08.28 | CIA-20 | openmoko: (on_talking_reject_call), (on_call_progress_changed): |
| 17:08.28 | CIA-20 | openmoko: Fixes journal crash on incoming calls. |
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| 17:10.38 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Cleveland]] [[User:Hhf423]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Berlin]] [[Flashing_openmoko]] [[Talk:OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Norway]] |
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| 17:11.48 | ninHer | hi all |
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| 17:18.28 | jseghers | hi ninHer |
| 17:24.07 | niclone | bhuuaa... where is the new TI firmware for the modem that fixe the bug #666 ? :/ |
| 17:24.24 | hozer | trust me.. nfs booting is much nicer when done from an initramfs ;) |
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| 17:29.02 | hozer | okay, I suppose the nfs boot support could be quite handy |
| 17:29.25 | Writchie|zzzZZZz | /Writchie |
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| 17:39.44 | Ghiottone | hello all |
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| 17:54.44 | hhf423 | hi Ghiottone |
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| 18:00.21 | hhf423 | does gsmd usually write a log? |
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| 18:08.54 | mbuf | hhf423, yes, check in /var/log |
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| 18:09.38 | mbuf | hhf423, what is the problem? |
| 18:10.00 | hhf423 | mbuf: gsmd seems to crap out all the time |
| 18:10.28 | hhf423 | mbuf: to get the neo to ask me for the PIN, I have to stop X, start gsmd and start X afetr each reboot |
| 18:10.32 | mbuf | hhf423, check in "lsof | grep tty" to see for any /dev/ttySAC0 entry; if it doesn't exist start it |
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| 18:10.53 | mbuf | hhf423, /etc/init.d/gsmd start |
| 18:11.11 | hhf423 | yes, I know |
| 18:11.44 | mbuf | hhf423, and what happens after you do that? does gsmd start? |
| 18:11.51 | hhf423 | so you think gsmd is writing to /var/log/messages ? because there is nothing else |
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| 18:12.15 | mbuf | hhf423, i think it is some other file in /var/log; need to check |
| 18:12.18 | hhf423 | yes, when I stop X, start gsmd and start X again it usually asks me for the PIN and works a while |
| 18:12.39 | hhf423 | mbuf: there is only messages and messages.0 in my var log |
| 18:17.14 | Ghiottone | hhf423, gsmd seems to look for parameter -l to initialize the logfile |
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| 18:25.53 | hhf423 | hmm, looks like no more phones sold (as in charged and shipped) after arounf august 15 |
| 18:26.15 | Fatal | new phones will be available in 2 weeks |
| 18:26.21 | maniacxs | hi, i have a problem with gsmd. trying to use libgsmd-tool it does not ask for the PIN after powering on. I am using a HTC Universal |
| 18:27.20 | hhf423 | maniacxs: what works for me is stopping X, then restarting gsmd, then starting X again |
| 18:27.21 | Fatal | which is hysterical, since FIC sent off my phones elsewhere when they said they had "don't worry, we have reserved the units for you" back in early august |
| 18:27.25 | Fatal | *GN* |
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| 18:28.26 | b1303s__ | hhf423: dunno if it is needful but you can look at: /tmp/gsm.log |
| 18:28.29 | hhf423 | maniacxs: or you do "libgsmd -m shell" and then do "O" and "r" |
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| 18:29.41 | maniacxs | hhf423: wanted to try it... but yes i am using libgsmd -m shell. I only tried "O" and was waiting for the PIN Event. |
| 18:30.02 | hhf423 | b1303s__: ah, that works |
| 18:30.18 | b1303s__ | :) |
| 18:30.26 | maniacxs | hhf423: and currently i am starting gsmd manually |
| 18:31.17 | hhf423 | maniacxs: hmm, I forgot if it aks at O or if it only asks at R |
| 18:33.26 | maniacxs | hhf423: O then r ... nothing happens |
| 18:34.12 | hhf423 | and "o" |
| 18:34.13 | hhf423 | ? |
| 18:34.33 | maniacxs | o is poweroff |
| 18:34.41 | hhf423 | do you get a prompt after libgesmdtool -m shell ? |
| 18:34.49 | maniacxs | yes i get it |
| 18:35.00 | hhf423 | so whats it say after "o" |
| 18:35.22 | maniacxs | and the gsmd (not started in daemon mode) tells about the AT Commands |
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| 18:35.35 | maniacxs | it says Power-Off |
| 18:36.11 | __Ace__ | how do I set the resolution to 240x320 and disable X11 to startup? (but still have the /dev/fb0 there) |
| 18:36.38 | hhf423 | maniacxs: and with O you get power on? |
| 18:36.46 | hhf423 | and what does R do for you? |
| 18:37.05 | hhf423 | hmm, my modem just died again |
| 18:37.25 | maniacxs | hhf423: it says Power-On ;) |
| 18:37.32 | __Ace__ | anyone? |
| 18:37.38 | maniacxs | one moment connecting with ssh to the device |
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| 18:41.02 | hhf423 | that gsmd behaviour is bizarre |
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| 18:42.07 | folken_ | greetings. |
| 18:43.02 | hhf423 | hi folken_ |
| 18:43.10 | maniacxs | hhf423: ok R gives me "# Register to operator\nNo." |
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| 18:43.41 | hhf423 | maniacxs: then I think "r" is what you want, -> register to home network |
| 18:43.58 | hhf423 | let me check |
| 18:44.07 | maniacxs | hhf423: r gives me only "# register" |
| 18:44.18 | maniacxs | hhf423: a small r is register to home |
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| 18:45.04 | maniacxs | ohoh ... forgot my coffee in the living room ... brb |
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| 18:47.23 | maniacxs | hhf423: does gsmd print the AT Commands for you? does it print the answers for you? |
| 18:47.47 | hozer | so.. how do I get ssh'ed in to the emulator? |
| 18:48.33 | hhf423 | maniacxs: gsmd writes a log into /tmp/gsm.log for me |
| 18:48.54 | maniacxs | hhf423: but does it only log the commands send? |
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| 18:49.31 | hhf423 | no, also what comes back |
| 18:49.39 | maniacxs | hhf423: not for me |
| 18:49.47 | hhf423 | at the moment I am getting CME ERROR 512 all the time |
| 18:50.03 | hhf423 | bizarre |
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| 18:51.32 | hhf423 | which is "user abort" which makes no sense whatsoever |
| 18:52.14 | hhf423 | who is General Failure and why is he reading my harddisk? |
| 18:54.42 | riot | is it really possible to boot from sd-card? How can i prepare that? |
| 18:54.43 | hhf423 | maniacxs: I just rebooted, killed X, restarted gsmd and now I can talk business via libgsmdtool |
| 18:55.02 | hhf423 | maniacxs: now I get asked for PIN right after O |
| 18:55.09 | hhf423 | no R or r required |
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| 18:57.08 | maniacxs | hhf423: here nothing happens on O ... tried different speeds ... nothing |
| 18:57.34 | maniacxs | oh oh ... |
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| 18:57.35 | maniacxs | ;) |
| 18:57.39 | maniacxs | something happens |
| 18:57.54 | maniacxs | searching for network |
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| 18:59.54 | hhf423 | whooo :-) |
| 19:01.05 | maniacxs | this network searching does take really long |
| 19:01.23 | torpor | okay great .. builds are all done, looks like the image boots fine (usual problems) and so now i can start a bit of real raw coding for the damn platform .. w00t! |
| 19:01.57 | torpor | thx hhf423 .. finally got through to the end and its looking good now. |
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| 19:04.56 | maniacxs | hhf423: why does it search for a network, when it is powered off? |
| 19:05.35 | hhf423 | maniacxs: it should actually stop doing that |
| 19:05.43 | hhf423 | maniacxs: thats what it does here |
| 19:06.08 | hhf423 | o |
| 19:06.09 | hhf423 | # # Power-Off |
| 19:06.10 | maniacxs | hhf423: when i type o it says: "EVENT: Netreg searching for network" |
| 19:06.11 | hhf423 | EVENT: Netreg not searching for network |
| 19:06.32 | hhf423 | bizarre |
| 19:06.38 | maniacxs | yes |
| 19:06.57 | hhf423 | here is only does that after "r" |
| 19:08.32 | hhf423 | gawd, Nikon has released a DSLR with full frame sensors |
| 19:09.13 | Aria | Uh-huh! |
| 19:10.39 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[User:Techiem2]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Denver]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Oslo]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Norway]] |
| 19:11.05 | hhf423 | so what was the issue? |
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| 19:12.08 | maniacxs | hhf423: starting gsmd with -F made it working |
| 19:12.36 | maniacxs | but it does not work yet. i can hear the others but tey can not hear me ... |
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| 19:14.21 | hhf423 | maniacxs: they're probably just making fun of you :-) |
| 19:14.32 | hhf423 | "can you hear me now??1!" |
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| 19:15.31 | folken_ | what is the application called, that displays the "register pin" request? |
| 19:15.54 | hhf423 | folken_: you mean enter pin? |
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| 19:16.01 | folken_ | hhf423: yes. |
| 19:16.15 | hhf423 | folken_: as I understand it, its the dialer |
| 19:16.41 | hhf423 | the dialer will understand the PIN request from gsmd and then as for it |
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| 19:18.15 | folken_ | hhf423: hmm.. it did request the pin before.. but since the last update it doesn't do so anymore. |
| 19:18.55 | hhf423 | folken_: yes, same here. I have to stop X, restart gsmd and start X to make it work and ask for the PIN |
| 19:19.11 | hhf423 | just restarting gsmd does not cut it |
| 19:19.15 | folken_ | hhf423: hmm let me try. |
| 19:19.30 | maniacxs | hhf423: no ;) i phoned myself |
| 19:19.44 | ixs | huh? your phones do work? |
| 19:19.48 | ixs | no such luck here. |
| 19:20.12 | hhf423 | yes, sure, to some extend they do work |
| 19:20.32 | ixs | hhf423: nope. the gsm modem hangs constantly. |
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| 19:20.58 | ixs | right now I cannot even use the serial line as root via cu... |
| 19:20.59 | hhf423 | ixs: well here it hangs ever now and then, but sometimes inbetween it works |
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| 19:21.03 | ixs | strange things... |
| 19:21.25 | hhf423 | ixs: you are using 2007.2 from when? |
| 19:21.52 | folken_ | hhf423: ah.. it asked me for the pin.. |
| 19:21.52 | ixs | hhf423: 19th snapshot and ipkg upgraded to todays version |
| 19:22.37 | hhf423 | ixs: ok, now you ssh into the phone |
| 19:22.59 | ixs | wait a sec. |
| 19:23.11 | hhf423 | ixs: and do /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop |
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| 19:23.14 | ixs | had to remove the battery as the power button wouldn#t work to switch it on... |
| 19:23.35 | hhf423 | then /etc/init.d/gsmd start |
| 19:23.36 | ixs | something else: what is making the whistling noise when connected to usb and removing the battery? |
| 19:23.58 | hhf423 | and then /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start again |
| 19:24.07 | hhf423 | and then it should ask you for the PIN |
| 19:24.40 | hhf423 | ixs: the noise if from condensators slowly discharging because there is still charge coming in via USB |
| 19:25.25 | ixs | hhf423: gsmd hangs, cannot open the modem device. |
| 19:25.29 | ixs | But I think, I know why. |
| 19:25.33 | folken_ | hhf423: i did make one call. Worked inkl. hangup, but then the dialerapp vanished.. and i can't seem to open it anymore. |
| 19:25.51 | borg_ | lol |
| 19:25.55 | borg_ | i called my neo |
| 19:25.55 | ixs | hhf423: looks like the kernel uses ttySCA0 as it's console device... |
| 19:26.02 | ixs | hhf423: might that be a problem? |
| 19:26.04 | borg_ | now it doesnt stop to vibrate |
| 19:26.08 | hhf423 | folken_: you should be able to open dialer from the "+" menu |
| 19:26.39 | hhf423 | borg_: you called the phone and hung up? |
| 19:26.49 | folken_ | hhf423: jup came up again, but i couldn't launch it from the today application. |
| 19:27.03 | hhf423 | folken_: yes, I have seen the same here |
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| 19:27.21 | hhf423 | borg_: call the phone again and then hang up on the neo |
| 19:27.32 | hhf423 | ok, have to run, talk to you tomorrow |
| 19:28.16 | folken_ | hhf423: ah it could be that the console isn't actually calling the app, but only switching to it in the background. When I switch to the today app and press the dialer button again, it starts up, after launching it once from the plus menu. |
| 19:31.28 | hozer | running qemu in Xvnc seems to work very badly |
| 19:31.47 | hozer | I can't get anything to seem to respond to mouse clicks |
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| 19:41.56 | Elrond | Okay... first "static" eabi binary on my oabi system. :) |
| 19:42.00 | folken_ | hmm dbus complains about a missing group 'netdev'. Is there any information to that issue? |
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| 19:45.23 | folken_ | ehw.. ERROR reding from gsm_fd |
| 19:45.30 | Ghiottone | damn... I want at least a quad core system as my next pc.... |
| 19:47.25 | torpor | sorted.. got gpm-filemanager installed, scummvm too, the sdl libs .. very nice .. |
| 19:47.30 | torpor | time to start hacking again. |
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| 19:58.25 | alphaone | Elrond: Cool, but do it the other way around :-) |
| 20:01.46 | ScaredyCat | someone break rootfs build ? |
| 20:03.54 | Elrond | alphaone - Well, I just broke my thing. :-| The oabi binaries try to load eabi libraries. And now I need some rescue system. :-| |
| 20:04.59 | alphaone | Elrond: Oh :-/ |
| 20:05.58 | Elrond | root@fon:/etc$ echo foo |
| 20:05.58 | Elrond | echo: /usr/arm-eabi-linux/lib/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.0' not found (required by echo) |
| 20:06.19 | Elrond | Why does that stupid shell not have echo as a builtin?! |
| 20:06.36 | alphaone | heh |
| 20:06.54 | Elrond | With echo I could have probably fixed the system. |
| 20:07.57 | alphaone | Elrond: Just use the redirects? < > |
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| 20:13.59 | mintee_ | I just inserted my SIM card that was working with 2007.1 into my neo that's now running 2007.2 and it seems that the GSM wasn't powered up.. So i clicked the Power up GSM antenna and the entire top bar disappeared. |
| 20:14.16 | mintee_ | and it didn't recieve a call. Is this known? |
| 20:15.03 | cjb | yes |
| 20:15.10 | mintee_ | workaround? |
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| 20:19.31 | Writchie | mintee: this is what it does |
| 20:21.43 | mintee_ | eh? |
| 20:22.14 | Writchie | it's pre-alpha - if it works its pretty accidental at this point |
| 20:22.40 | mintee_ | ah, ok... wasn't sure if that was a statement of if it should have been followed with a comma |
| 20:22.51 | mintee_ | . |
| 20:23.24 | Writchie | it's pretty much a moment in time snapshot of multiple works in progress |
| 20:24.03 | Writchie | treat is as a concept demo and you won't be disappointed |
| 20:24.25 | Writchie | be thankful that the kernel is very stable and most of the drivers work pretty well |
| 20:24.29 | mintee_ | gotcha.. i'm at my office and don't have a terminal to the phone atm, but is there a way of manually starting gsmd that would help |
| 20:24.49 | mintee_ | oh, yeah, i'm highly impressed with the new layout. asla just working this time and all |
| 20:24.51 | Writchie | it's painful to do on the phone |
| 20:25.22 | mintee_ | yeah, that's what I'm saying.. when i get home, and get a shell, if i restart gsmd it "might" work is what your saying? |
| 20:25.23 | Writchie | peoplel have gotten it to work by restrating gsmd and then x. |
| 20:25.33 | mintee_ | and X eh.. gotcha |
| 20:25.45 | mintee_ | i'll give it a shot when i get home. |
| 20:25.46 | Writchie | but gsmd and libgsmd are very unstable at the moment |
| 20:25.58 | mintee_ | yeah, i understand from what I've read. |
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| 20:31.33 | DukeOfURL | I'm in t-mobile land, and the SIP prepaid card works in a Samsung phone |
| 20:32.04 | DukeOfURL | the command gsmd -p /dev/ttySAC0 -s 115200 -F causes the Neo to lock up |
| 20:32.12 | DukeOfURL | after the ATZ |
| 20:32.21 | DukeOfURL | this worked ok with 2007.1 |
| 20:33.01 | DukeOfURL | has anyone else been able to connect w/ t-mobile? |
| 20:33.16 | mintee_ | DukeOfURL, heh, nope, that's what I was just discussing |
| 20:33.33 | DukeOfURL | I just /joined |
| 20:33.34 | Writchie | DukeOfURL: what are you using to put this command in |
| 20:33.40 | DukeOfURL | ssh |
| 20:34.12 | ixs | mintee_: same problems here. top bar is crashing, modem line is permission denied and the gsmd is locking up after ATZ... |
| 20:34.17 | ixs | *yay* regressions. :D |
| 20:35.00 | mintee_ | I haven't even tried any init strings yet |
| 20:35.13 | DukeOfURL | my image is from about two hours ago--the Power-up and Auto register menu item have no effect |
| 20:35.25 | DukeOfURL | the icons stay in place, however |
| 20:35.27 | ixs | DukeOfURL: which image did you use? |
| 20:35.34 | maniacxs | DukeOfURL: i was able to connect today |
| 20:35.36 | DukeOfURL | two hours ago |
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| 20:35.50 | mintee_ | i'm using the 2007.8 image... my build isn't working as it's failing at uicmoc4-native-4.0.3 |
| 20:35.51 | mintee_ | :'( |
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| 20:36.47 | pavelm | hello, everyone |
| 20:36.48 | Writchie | mintee_: what is your build system |
| 20:36.59 | mintee_ | ubuntu |
| 20:37.02 | Writchie | 7.04 |
| 20:37.07 | mintee_ | yeah, iirc |
| 20:37.11 | mintee_ | install from about 5 days ago |
| 20:37.19 | mintee_ | current since then |
| 20:37.20 | ixs | DukeOfURL: url of the image or selfbuilt? |
| 20:37.25 | pavelm | I played with pygps a bit, result is that I have got it working on openmoko. |
| 20:37.35 | pavelm | ...mostly ;-) |
| 20:37.41 | DukeOfURL | ixs: self built two hours ago |
| 20:38.01 | ixs | DukeOfURL: ahh okay. |
| 20:38.05 | mintee_ | Writchie, i've been reading about somethign regarding GD and disabling xlibs or something, but doesn't make any since to me |
| 20:38.08 | Writchie | mintee: you need to install symlnks to libXext.so and a couple of others - hold on i'll get them |
| 20:38.18 | ixs | DukeOfURL: seems the crash of the top par has been fixed then. |
| 20:38.18 | mintee_ | Writchie, awesome, thanks |
| 20:38.27 | Elrond | alphaone - How to use the redirects to just do "echo *" for example? |
| 20:38.44 | mintee_ | ixs, since when? |
| 20:38.52 | pavelm | ixs: Yep, gllin. I have not played with decoding hammerhead lately. |
| 20:38.59 | Elrond | pavelm - Hi! |
| 20:39.05 | DukeOfURL | ixs: yes, but the Power-up and Auto-register menu items don't appear to have an effect |
| 20:39.24 | pavelm | Hi, Elrond! |
| 20:40.06 | Elrond | pavelm - I b0rked my running rootfs. Any idea on how to get a rescue system running on the thing? |
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| 20:40.27 | mintee_ | Elrond, reflash? |
| 20:40.35 | Elrond | mintee_ - I have data on it. |
| 20:41.10 | ixs | Elrond: pass a nfsroot option to the bootloader? |
| 20:41.13 | mintee_ | I think they are more concerned with it becoming stable before worrying about a "rescue" system atm |
| 20:41.28 | ixs | Elrond: alternatively, put another rootfs on the micro-sd card and boot from that, accessing your real rootfs on the mtd? |
| 20:41.42 | mintee_ | touche ixs... |
| 20:41.50 | Ghiottone | copy the data to the /media/card and later restoring it to / ? |
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| 20:42.02 | Elrond | ixs - Hmm... That might be an idea... Now I need a microsd. ;-) |
| 20:42.03 | DukeOfURL | my logs are full of: user.warn kernel: pcf50606_irq: entering(irq=53, pcf=c07dac00): scheduling work |
| 20:42.05 | DukeOfURL | Aug 23 13:42:36 fic-gta01 user.warn kernel: pcf50606_work: INT1=0x40 INT2=0x00 INT3=0x01:SECOND ADCRDY |
| 20:42.19 | Elrond | Ghiottone - How to do the copy?! |
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| 20:42.25 | mintee_ | Elrond, how did you get the phone without a microSD.. they shipped with one |
| 20:42.47 | Elrond | mintee_ - I got one from a P0 developer :) |
| 20:42.47 | SpeedEvil | DukeOfURL: I think that is simply debugging |
| 20:42.52 | mintee_ | ah |
| 20:43.00 | ixs | Elrond: nfsroot in that case would be my suggestion. |
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| 20:43.05 | Ghiottone | Elrond, it depends on what kind of data you want to save and where it is |
| 20:43.21 | ixs | DukeOfURL: that's the power management stuff in your logs. ignore it. |
| 20:43.24 | Elrond | Ghiottone - It's just a directory :) |
| 20:43.42 | DukeOfURL | ok, thx |
| 20:43.57 | mintee_ | Writchie, yeah, the mailing list says something about buildling uicmoc4 against Qt and not X |
| 20:44.08 | DukeOfURL | what's on /dev/ttySAC1? |
| 20:44.30 | ixs | Elrond: http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/LinuxNfsRoot |
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| 20:45.01 | Elrond | DukeOfURL - The gps. |
| 20:45.06 | Ghiottone | Elrond, how much corrupted is the rootfs? are you able to boot in it to cmdline? |
| 20:45.34 | Elrond | Ghiottone - I have a running shell, I b0rked libc.so.6 ;o) |
| 20:45.58 | Ghiottone | argh |
| 20:46.36 | Writchie | mintee_: in /usr/lib on you host sudo ln -s libXext.so.6 libXext.so and then sudo ln -s libfreetype.so.6 libfreetype.so |
| 20:47.21 | mintee_ | awesome Writchie... Heading home in 10 minutes. I'll let ya know if it works out. But the build will of course take a few hours |
| 20:47.27 | Ghiottone | and usb networking= |
| 20:47.28 | Ghiottone | ? |
| 20:47.32 | Elrond | Ghiottone - And all best: even "echo" is /bin/echo instead of a shell buitin. Next time I'm installing bash on the thing. |
| 20:47.48 | Elrond | Ghiottone - I'm on it via usb networking, one shell running. |
| 20:47.55 | Ghiottone | oh |
| 20:48.00 | Ghiottone | so ssh is working |
| 20:48.17 | Elrond | Well, still. And new ssh connection wont work. |
| 20:48.18 | Ghiottone | why don't you copy your data to your desktop then? |
| 20:48.25 | Ghiottone | ah |
| 20:48.31 | Ghiottone | why? |
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| 20:49.02 | Elrond | Ghiottone - scp from desktop to phone: ssh will try to start /usr/bin/scp which requires libc.so.6, which is b0rked. |
| 20:49.08 | ixs | Ghiottone: libc is hosed. basically, you're fucked then. |
| 20:49.26 | pavelm | elrond: does dfu support om->pc transfer? |
| 20:49.47 | pavelm | elrond: what do you need to do? rename something to libc? |
| 20:49.52 | pavelm | elrond: or have you deleted libc? |
| 20:49.53 | Ghiottone | I see |
| 20:49.59 | Elrond | pavelm - That's my last option... backing up the full partition, compiling jffs2+mtdemulation into my kernel... etc. |
| 20:50.21 | Elrond | pavelm - rename something to libc, basicly. Or reconfigure /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 20:50.50 | DukeOfURL | starting gsmd from the terminal also locks it up--have to remove battery and reboot |
| 20:51.09 | ixs | Elrond: if you've got a few minutes, I can see if nfsroot does work on the openmoko uboot |
| 20:51.29 | Elrond | ixs - That would be nice. :-) |
| 20:51.37 | ixs | okay, hang on then... |
| 20:51.41 | Elrond | ixs - I doubt it'll work, but it's a nice option. |
| 20:52.42 | pavelm | elrond: would running ldconfig help? |
| 20:53.14 | ixs | Elrond: fuck. Didn't thought it through. You're right, it won#t work as the thing is only able to do usb networking and that is beyond uboot. |
| 20:53.20 | pavelm | ...ldconfig is static on common distros. |
| 20:53.38 | Ghiottone | maybe a chroot would help |
| 20:53.57 | ixs | Elrond: what exactly happened to your libc.so? |
| 20:54.54 | alphaone | Elrond: provide statically liked versions via microsd card? |
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| 20:55.04 | ixs | alphaone: no microsd card |
| 20:55.19 | pavelm | alpha: no microsd card, no way to mount it. |
| 20:56.26 | pavelm | find buffer overrun exploit in sh, then use it to upload your statically-linked "payload" :-) |
| 20:56.26 | DukeOfURL_ | with a USB connection, removing the Neo's battery crashes my Mac laptop :-( |
| 20:56.26 | pavelm | maybe it is time to update to 2007.08 version? ;-) |
| 20:56.28 | ixs | Elrond: I'd guess your best bet is actually to get yourself a microsd card tomorrow and boot a rootfs from that one. |
| 20:56.45 | ixs | DukeOfURL: sounds like an apple bug to me. :) |
| 20:56.58 | DukeOfURL_ | work in the apple? |
| 20:57.05 | DukeOfURL_ | worm in the apple? |
| 20:57.13 | ixs | might be. |
| 20:57.48 | Writchie | DukeOfURL: removing battery with power applied through USB not recomended |
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| 20:58.14 | Writchie | except during destructive testing |
| 20:58.17 | DukeOfURL_ | yes, the screen flashes and Neo makes funny noises |
| 20:58.26 | Ghiottone | Elrond, maybe you could use dfu-util to download rootfs to your desktop and try to read its files later |
| 20:58.45 | ixs | Writchie: is it going to harm the neo or why? |
| 20:59.15 | Writchie | its not designed for that. |
| 20:59.35 | DukeOfURL_ | is anyone else having success with gsmd? |
| 20:59.39 | ixs | Writchie: urgh. good to know. |
| 20:59.48 | ixs | Note to myself: don't do that anymore. |
| 20:59.56 | Writchie | it's possible to design devices to run off the charger without a battery but that is not the case here. |
| 21:00.22 | pavelm | writchie: well... I'd call that "misdesigned". Funny noises is okay, but it should not die. |
| 21:00.39 | pavelm | writchie: because users _will_ do that. |
| 21:00.46 | Writchie | actually, you want it to die - it's the master reset switch |
| 21:00.51 | ixs | Writchie: uhh. Wait. I've got absolutely no problem with the device switching off when pulling the battery. That's actually what I'm trying to do, to powercycle it. But does it get damaged? |
| 21:01.14 | ixs | Writchie: on the other hand, I'd like to see the ability to have it in the charger and cycle the battery without it dying. |
| 21:01.28 | Writchie | you should remove the usb or other charger - then remove the battery |
| 21:01.34 | ScaredyCat | wookie wookie |
| 21:01.40 | Writchie | the neo is not designed to be powered from the charger alone. |
| 21:01.43 | cjb_ie | ime most phones will die (i.e. power off) if battery is removed while charging. |
| 21:03.04 | ScaredyCat | needs a h/w watchdog |
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| 21:03.53 | pavelm | writchie: I meant "hw should not damage itself". |
| 21:04.25 | Writchie | it shouldn't - but it can |
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| 21:04.44 | Writchie | especially if you do things that weren't anticipated. |
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| 21:05.15 | Writchie | the screems, howls, flashes, and burning sounds are not simulations from the audio system. |
| 21:06.16 | pavelm | writchie: Okay, I'll try not to do it. |
| 21:06.43 | pavelm | btw it even flashes if you press power for a short while... |
| 21:06.48 | Writchie | you can do it all you want - you just might not be happy with the results |
| 21:07.26 | pavelm | writchie: :-) |
| 21:07.57 | pavelm | writchie: that's why I mostly use phase_0_ hardware. So that I still have phase1 hw when I break p0. |
| 21:08.22 | Writchie | i got two because i fully expect to accidently break at least one |
| 21:08.45 | FiscBiker | Is there a way to force chargemode to CCCV? I saw the Neo use CCCV from the same USB-source, but more often not. |
| 21:09.31 | pavelm | (what is cccv?) |
| 21:09.48 | ckuethe | constant current constant voltage |
| 21:09.52 | SpeedEvil | Constant Current Constant Voltage |
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| 21:10.22 | ckuethe | see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Battery_Charger |
| 21:10.58 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Power]] |
| 21:11.13 | Writchie | since only FIC has the schematics, it is pretty much up to them to sort out the low level PM issues. |
| 21:12.07 | Writchie | plenty of people are capable of helping, but I guess they consider this some kind of trade secret. |
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| 21:13.02 | Writchie | It would nice to have a schematic with a big black redaction of the TI parts. |
| 21:13.24 | pavelm | writchie: Why are TI parts bad? |
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| 21:13.29 | SpeedEvil | Big NDA |
| 21:13.35 | Writchie | they are proprietary |
| 21:13.37 | Writchie | to TI |
| 21:13.53 | Writchie | although every clone maker in China has them |
| 21:13.56 | pavelm | writchie: I guess it should be "easy" to design custom cellphone hw around gumstix orsomething. |
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| 21:14.05 | pavelm | ...then run openmoko sw on that. |
| 21:14.18 | pavelm | actually some group is already doing that... |
| 21:14.20 | SpeedEvil | pavelm [[Modular Phone]] on the wiki |
| 21:14.22 | Writchie | the value is in the integration |
| 21:14.46 | FiscBiker | Right, I meant from the terminal, but I guess I should give the USB-prompt a try. |
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| 21:15.04 | Writchie | the gsm chipset is a commodity, if you make millions of phones |
| 21:15.37 | Writchie | complete iPhone is already cloned |
| 21:16.03 | ckuethe | for non-obvious reasons, that obviously doesn't make sense to TI's legal and marketing departments |
| 21:16.31 | hads | Is anyone getting file conflicts with libmokojournal2 when doing an ipkg upgrade? |
| 21:16.34 | Writchie | TI is concerned only about its competition - qualcom and a few others |
| 21:16.45 | ckuethe | somehow, they think it enhances shareholder value if they don't tell anyone where the power pins are and what bog-standard GSM commands they support |
| 21:17.21 | SpeedEvil | I suspect it's more that they don't want to support eleventy million idiots trying to make phones. |
| 21:17.37 | SpeedEvil | If they don't give out the datasheets, then there is less support needed. |
| 21:17.39 | Writchie | their customer is the OEM - they don't care about or ever want to know about a zillion idiots downstream |
| 21:18.10 | ixs | hads: -force_overwrite is your friend. ir remove libmokojournal2 and install libmokojournal2-0 |
| 21:18.11 | Writchie | this is the world of hundreds of millions chips |
| 21:18.40 | hads | ixs: Cool, that's what I wanted to confirm. I couldn't figure out the naming convention. Thanks. |
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| 21:23.02 | buluca | Hi all :) |
| 21:23.22 | LightKnight | hi there :) |
| 21:24.04 | buluca | Well, TEH ultimate question is... |
| 21:24.48 | ozarka | Don't leave us hanging, buluca. |
| 21:25.07 | buluca | :) |
| 21:26.23 | Ghiottone | I managed to build install and run the latest version of powertop on the neo but with little results http://pastebin.com/m375f053 |
| 21:27.08 | buluca | Does openmoko have [plans for] a VoIP backend for its main phoning app? |
| 21:28.27 | buluca | (even to use with 802.11 only, huh) |
| 21:29.14 | SpeedEvil | There are lots of plans. |
| 21:29.47 | SpeedEvil | First, it's prolly a good idea to get basic stuff working. |
| 21:29.55 | ScaredyCat | I just have to finish knitting this jumper |
| 21:30.24 | SpeedEvil | Aha - knitting tutor! |
| 21:30.33 | SpeedEvil | Just needs two 5 in one styluses. |
| 21:30.47 | SpeedEvil | (pen, laser, pointer, torch, knitting-needle) |
| 21:31.00 | ScaredyCat | :) |
| 21:31.04 | buluca | SpeedEvil: seems like a basic stuff, sip phones are great ;) |
| 21:31.24 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 21:31.40 | SpeedEvil | UMA is where we need to be eventually. |
| 21:31.46 | SpeedEvil | But that's gonna be more complex. |
| 21:32.30 | Elrond | Okay, back. |
| 21:32.39 | Writchie | UMA will not be possible until the gsm chipset exports the gsm layer 3 |
| 21:32.53 | SpeedEvil | Hmm. Prolly true. |
| 21:32.55 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 21:33.08 | SpeedEvil | Which in theory could be possible - with new firmware. |
| 21:33.12 | Writchie | i'm sure its on TI's roadmap |
| 21:33.19 | Writchie | it's not that hard |
| 21:33.30 | Writchie | but it may not be on FIC's roadmap |
| 21:33.32 | Elrond | ixs - What exactly happened: I've put a wrong libc.so.6 on the thing in a new dir, chagned ld.so.conf to point there. Thing b0rked. |
| 21:33.40 | Writchie | i mean Openmoko.com's roadmap |
| 21:33.47 | SpeedEvil | IMO - UMA is a _big_ selling point. |
| 21:33.51 | Writchie | huge |
| 21:34.01 | Writchie | its a win win for operator and customer |
| 21:34.05 | SpeedEvil | Of course - that's only if operators will enable it on random phones. |
| 21:34.27 | Writchie | i don't think they need to do anything special |
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| 21:34.39 | SpeedEvil | There _needs_ to be some simple wifi micropayment scheme for wifi. |
| 21:34.41 | Writchie | it works on t-mobile now on a few phones |
| 21:34.48 | Writchie | its free |
| 21:35.00 | SpeedEvil | Wifi isn't though. |
| 21:35.01 | Writchie | they don't charge when calls run through the wifi |
| 21:35.01 | SpeedEvil | Often. |
| 21:35.16 | Writchie | they don't care how the tunnel gets to them |
| 21:35.25 | Writchie | as long as it meets the QoS |
| 21:35.35 | SpeedEvil | It would be really nice if there was some standardised way you could find out if local APs were offering service, and at what price/K. |
| 21:36.01 | Writchie | AP's are becoming like clean air |
| 21:36.04 | Writchie | part of the overhead |
| 21:36.21 | SpeedEvil | Indeed - but illegal to access without prior authorisation in some places. |
| 21:36.43 | Writchie | everyone like to put up toll booths where they can |
| 21:37.02 | Writchie | but McDonalds would just as soon sell you another box of fries and make the profit there |
| 21:37.11 | Writchie | than nickle and dime you for a few bits |
| 21:37.37 | SpeedEvil | A scheme to http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL2287925020070822 |
| 21:38.00 | SpeedEvil | Oops. the URL is a man arrested in the UK. |
| 21:38.05 | Writchie | saw that ealier |
| 21:38.37 | Writchie | not much different than 'stealing' local phone calls from your neighbor |
| 21:39.03 | SpeedEvil | I mean more a scheme where you plug in a new router, and up pops a box saying 'configure how others may access this device' or something, which automagically sets up VPN tunnels from paying users back to central locations. |
| 21:39.10 | Writchie | half the people around me have no idea which "linksys" they are on |
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| 21:39.25 | SpeedEvil | and sets up the payment to your CC or paypal or bank account. |
| 21:40.19 | Elrond | ixs - Wee... finally got the thing back. :) |
| 21:40.36 | Writchie | I think that if you just have decent QoS and Shaping for the 32K bps per user use case, the rest can pretty much take care of itself |
| 21:40.46 | torpor | anyone running scummvm on their neo's right now? if so, where do i put the .dat files so that i can play? |
| 21:41.12 | ScaredyCat | in a directory... |
| 21:41.17 | torpor | are they just .dat files? |
| 21:41.20 | ScaredyCat | it doesnt matter where.. |
| 21:41.36 | ScaredyCat | then start scummvm and point it at the dir |
| 21:41.38 | torpor | coz i have a full rig for the GP2X with all my scumm games, but they are only .dat files .. for some reason scummvm-neo doesn't run them. |
| 21:41.54 | ScaredyCat | when you start it you get options to add games |
| 21:42.01 | ScaredyCat | mmm .... |
| 21:43.54 | ScaredyCat | i think it depends on the game.,,, |
| 21:44.21 | ScaredyCat | i have some indiana jones gams that have .s00 s01 files |
| 21:44.54 | ScaredyCat | but you select the dir not the actual files |
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| 21:46.09 | Writchie | maybe can switch these guys from nokia to openmoko http://www.theregister.com/2007/08/23/cargo_cult_communicator_stalls/ |
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| 21:49.26 | torpor | BTW: mac OSX users - internet sharing works just fine for getting your neo on the 'net .. no sweat. just share the internet connection on whatever port has the internet, with the virtual ethernet port set up for you by the driver. |
| 21:50.31 | evanpro | Writchie: it does seem like a big waste of effort |
| 21:52.45 | torpor | just did a nice ipkg update && ipg upgrade on my neo .. very fine! this is more like it i have to say! |
| 21:53.03 | torpor | and today i confirmed that i can fully build an image + kernel, and tested it both under emu and on the neo .. works just fine. |
| 21:53.23 | torpor | so i'm all gungho and excited about starting on some porting work tomorrow .. sdl_svg/cairographics will be my first target. |
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| 21:56.02 | hozer | torpor: how did you ssh to the emulator? |
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| 21:56.42 | torpor | hozer: you mean scummvm? |
| 21:56.57 | torpor | or qemu? |
| 21:57.04 | hozer | qemu |
| 21:57.06 | torpor | coz i didn't ssh to qemu .. i just used it to test my image/.ipks |
| 21:57.13 | hozer | what is scummvm? |
| 21:57.36 | torpor | game engine to run oldschool 2d graphics adventure games like leisure suit larry, day of the tentacle, etc. |
| 21:57.36 | ewon | heh --> http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/08/23/190238.shtml |
| 21:58.22 | hozer | aaaaaahh, cool. |
| 21:58.26 | jseghers | hozer: follow the instructions on the wiki for setting up USB networking. Then you can ssh to QEMU |
| 21:58.47 | torpor | see screenshots here: |
| 21:58.47 | torpor | http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=5 |
| 21:59.22 | hozer | I was kinda hopeing to avoid messing with usb gadget modules on the host I have the emulator built on |
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| 22:04.24 | pavelm | good night, everyone |
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| 23:02.16 | Ghiottone | nite all |
| 23:02.39 | jaebird | nothing like a little uboot flashing to get the heart pumping :) |
| 23:02.57 | Ghiottone | :) |
| 23:03.34 | linux_galore | G'Day fellow mokies |
| 23:05.08 | Psi_ | i might not be uptodate on whats happening but are there any plans to put "erase flash" into the boot menu? |
| 23:07.32 | SpeedEvil | Put it in yourself |
| 23:07.44 | SpeedEvil | and you probably want 'nand erase rootfs' or similar |
| 23:07.50 | Psi_ | yeah |
| 23:08.00 | SpeedEvil | 'nand erase' = badness. |
| 23:08.10 | SpeedEvil | (less you've got a debug board.) |
| 23:08.13 | Psi_ | but i dont have a debugboard, so messing with uboot isnt for me :( |
| 23:11.38 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_OWL]] [[User:Arndot]] [[User:Senikk]] [[MacOS_X]] [[OpenMoko_Local_Groups:_Norway]] |
| 23:15.52 | Writchie | SpeedEvil: nand erase rootfs and nand erase kernel are probably not a bad idea, reduces the risk of an accidental "nand erase" an no need to access u-boot with a terminal |
| 23:16.08 | Psi_ | ^^ |
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