| 00:00.01 | Elrond | ... so you could transfer the kernel to the p0. ;) |
| 00:00.38 | pavelm | p0 is now on ampermeter - different table ;) |
| 00:00.50 | SpeedEvil | Hello. |
| 00:01.22 | arw_hal9000 | :) |
| 00:01.27 | balrog-kun | it turns out "cat" + "nc" also allows you to copy the kernel |
| 00:01.47 | Elrond | balrog-kun - Oh, yeah. :-) |
| 00:01.56 | Elrond | balrog-kun - Or "ssh cat" ;-) |
| 00:03.26 | Elrond | Good night people. |
| 00:04.46 | SpeedEvil | Night. |
| 00:06.24 | Elrond | Night SpeedEvil :) |
| 00:08.05 | pavelm | Good night people. |
| 00:10.14 | balrog-kun | good night |
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| 00:19.23 | dietricha | counter |
| 00:19.23 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 45%) P1: a day 17:50:29 (1.743 +-1.7 days) (1313;218) |
| 00:20.19 | arw_hal9000 | i make a mistake .. sorry |
| 00:20.55 | arw_hal9000 | witth the translation http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware_Developer |
| 00:22.13 | arw_hal9000 | i am really sorry :( |
| 00:23.54 | michaelshiloh | can anyone tell me the name and location of the system logfile on the neo? |
| 00:24.06 | arw_hal9000 | please accept my apologies |
| 00:24.29 | arw_hal9000 | i write in spanish the openmoko wiki |
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| 00:25.09 | SpeedEvil | What's the mistake? |
| 00:26.59 | arw_hal9000 | SpeedEvil: here: |
| 00:27.00 | arw_hal9000 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware_Developer |
| 00:27.40 | SpeedEvil | Not hard to fix. |
| 00:28.07 | SpeedEvil | Copy content you want out to a new page. - edit window, then copy |
| 00:28.25 | SpeedEvil | select the version before your edit in the page history |
| 00:28.39 | SpeedEvil | now, edit that, and save |
| 00:29.16 | arw_hal9000 | i will be more careful |
| 00:29.35 | arw_hal9000 | ok, thank you SpeedEvil |
| 00:29.41 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 00:29.53 | SpeedEvil | everypne breaks stuff |
| 00:30.05 | SpeedEvil | contribution is good. |
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| 00:30.35 | arw_hal9000 | uff |
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| 00:31.54 | wiml | yes, wikis are designed to make it easy to recover from mistakes |
| 00:33.37 | pjz | wikis rock |
| 00:33.42 | arw_hal9000 | :) |
| 00:33.44 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Hardware_Developer/es]] [[Hardware_Developer]] [[Neo1973_Power_Management]] [[Neo1973_Battery]] [[Wishlist:Text_Input]] |
| 00:33.56 | pjz | any more news on the HX8D ? |
| 00:34.42 | pjz | er, HXD8 ? |
| 00:35.11 | pjz | "hackdate" ? |
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| 01:01.28 | michaelshiloh | It would appear that I can bring up other apps like the calendar and calculator, but if i touch the "dialer" icon nothing happens. any tips? |
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| 01:20.00 | tieutacday | hello |
| 01:20.14 | tieutacday | i want chat with a beautiful girl |
| 01:20.15 | tieutacday | :D |
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| 01:23.21 | arw_hal9000 | :) |
| 01:23.25 | arw_hal9000 | hehehe |
| 01:25.02 | SpeedEvil | Ones you find in /usr/share/ are not so good. |
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| 01:30.30 | Mukunda | Is the Neo1973 available now? |
| 01:31.33 | Mukunda | Oh no still not. |
| 01:31.33 | Mukunda | Damn. |
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| 01:45.23 | aloril | counter_msg http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) |
| 01:45.23 | aloril | aloril changed counter prefix message to http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) |
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| 02:32.45 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Category:Neo1973_Hardware/es]] |
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| 03:16.53 | drcode | hi all |
| 03:16.57 | drcode | any one up |
| 03:18.06 | bmidgley | y |
| 03:18.06 | drcode | I need some help |
| 03:18.10 | drcode | I am looking for h323 mcu in open source |
| 03:18.27 | drcode | for video confrence |
| 03:18.49 | bmidgley | openh323.org has an openmcu subproject |
| 03:19.07 | bmidgley | you're going to run h323 on moko? :) |
| 03:19.12 | drcode | is it support video |
| 03:19.18 | drcode | and is there other project? |
| 03:19.19 | aloril | drcode: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 03:19.37 | drcode | what is openmoko? |
| 03:19.43 | drcode | it support video? |
| 03:19.43 | bmidgley | it's the only one i know about and i'm not sure about its status |
| 03:19.56 | drcode | k |
| 03:19.58 | bmidgley | you may be in the wrong channel... openmoko is a phone project |
| 03:20.16 | drcode | k |
| 03:20.17 | drcode | thanx |
| 03:20.25 | arw_hal9000 | openmoko, free apps, over free people in his hands |
| 03:20.43 | drcode | like skype? |
| 03:20.55 | arw_hal9000 | no |
| 03:21.17 | arw_hal9000 | openmoke is, like openmoko |
| 03:21.33 | arw_hal9000 | s/openmoke/openmoko |
| 03:21.43 | bmidgley | traditional cellphone hardware running an open linux system |
| 03:21.51 | drcode | k |
| 03:21.58 | drcode | I read about it some where |
| 03:22.01 | arw_hal9000 | drcode: look that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 03:22.04 | drcode | it support sip and so |
| 03:22.06 | drcode | yes |
| 03:22.20 | drcode | I read about , it change the phone hardware |
| 03:22.24 | drcode | great project |
| 03:22.28 | arw_hal9000 | :) |
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| 03:27.26 | arw_hal9000 | i'm tired.. |
| 03:27.35 | arw_hal9000 | see you tommorrow |
| 03:27.38 | arw_hal9000 | bye |
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| 04:18.55 | jackey | hey guys |
| 04:19.41 | jackey | how can i connect P0 via USB? |
| 04:19.47 | jackey | using minicom something |
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| 04:39.14 | jackey | drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. |
| 04:39.29 | jackey | there is no /dev/ttyACM0 device |
| 04:39.47 | jackey | anyone know why? |
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| 04:42.23 | crackfiend | Has anybody heard from Sean et al. about whether or not we'll be seeing the phone "perhaps late May"? |
| 04:45.11 | crackfiend | [elevator music] |
| 04:47.59 | aloril | not heard anything yet |
| 04:48.25 | jackey | hi guys |
| 04:48.31 | jackey | can u guys help me here. |
| 04:48.43 | jackey | I got a Neo1973 last week |
| 04:54.32 | aloril | wiki has page about usbnet or something (don't recall page name) |
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| 05:23.40 | jackey | can not make a call |
| 05:23.44 | jackey | really wried |
| 05:24.18 | jackey | my parts showed GTA01B_V4 |
| 05:24.28 | jackey | is that means it is a Phase0 |
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| 05:42.58 | aloril | phase0 is gta01bv3, phase1 is gta01bv4, phase1+/phase2 is gta02 |
| 05:52.17 | bmidgley | jackey: where did you find the gta01b_v4 written? |
| 05:52.23 | bmidgley | doh he's gone |
| 05:52.32 | bmidgley | where do I find my model number |
| 05:52.50 | CM | bmidgley: I think it's on the back under the battery or something |
| 05:53.59 | bmidgley | hmm I thought I had a late model p0 but this one says gta01b_v4 |
| 05:54.24 | CM | Ok, that's one of the early p1 then :) |
| 05:55.36 | bmidgley | well i hope the problems i've seen are just in software :) |
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| 06:01.42 | bmidgley | I thought the bluetooth radio was bad but found it works... |
| 06:02.08 | bmidgley | if I power it on and immediately reset the bluetooth chip (as in script them) |
| 06:02.43 | bmidgley | maybe all the p1's will be like that |
| 06:05.44 | CM | I've heard that bluetooth works for others too :) |
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| 06:29.35 | sannes | bmidgley: I don't have a phone, but alot of bluetooth chips (the two sticks I have tested) have exactly the same issue, won't work until I reset the chip (hcitool reset or whatever it is) .. |
| 06:30.48 | CM | OpenMoko time-traveling gps: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/39659.html |
| 06:31.48 | CM | aloril: Maybe your script should check pavels blog too, at least when it mentiones OpenMoko :) |
| 06:33.10 | aloril | actually it only checks http://planet.openmoko.org |
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| 06:47.11 | high-rez | counter |
| 06:47.11 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 14:36:36 (1.609 +-1.6 days) (1314;218) |
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| 06:59.36 | sumasuma | openmoko projects page disabled ? |
| 06:59.41 | sumasuma | when it will be up again ? |
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| 07:08.01 | rwhitby | CM: pavel should get his blog syndicated at planet.openmoko.org |
| 07:11.41 | CM | rwhitby: Who to ask for that? |
| 07:12.50 | CM | mickey|lunch: Who set up the OpenMoko Planet? What about adding http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com ? :) |
| 07:19.53 | bmidgley | sannes: I have to power and reset it using the power management directly |
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| 07:20.10 | bmidgley | sannes: the adapter won't even attach to the usb bus until I do that |
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| 07:23.08 | fish_ | re |
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| 07:38.54 | TRIsoft | morning |
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| 07:42.27 | webjames | morning morning |
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| 07:48.11 | sannes | bmidgley: ah, well, not the same issue then :P |
| 07:48.13 | sannes | counter |
| 07:48.13 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 14:06:05 (1.588 +-1.6 days) (1315;218) |
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| 07:58.02 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 14:01:10 (1.584 +-1.6 days) (1316;218) |
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| 08:32.00 | Stephmw | mornin |
| 08:32.07 | LuitvD | good morning |
| 08:32.19 | LuitvD | I'm off for some breakfast |
| 08:33.44 | aloril | (script) planet: Marcin "hrw" Juszkiewicz: How to check does GSM modem works http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/05/29/how-to-check-does-gsm-modem-works/ |
| 08:33.45 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Hardware_Developer/es]] [[Hardware_Developer]] [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Wish_List_UserProfile_Employee]] [[Wish_List_UserProfile_Child]] [[Wish_List]] |
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| 08:56.41 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:56.49 | ewon | o/ |
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| 09:00.35 | webjames | morning |
| 09:01.47 | hrw | morning |
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| 09:34.15 | zecke | is AT+CFUN=1->ERROR bad? |
| 09:37.19 | tholin | zecke: if you have not read hrw's latest blogpost do that. |
| 09:37.57 | tholin | but I have no idea of what I am talking about. Dont even have the hardware. |
| 09:38.27 | zecke | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.29 | tholin | My advice might still be helpfull. The advice was enter pin number. |
| 09:40.04 | zecke | AT+CFUN=0 toggle it off |
| 09:40.09 | zecke | AT+CFUN? |
| 09:40.11 | zecke | it says it is off |
| 09:40.13 | hrw | zecke: and disable modem |
| 09:40.14 | zecke | AT+CFUN=1 |
| 09:40.15 | zecke | ERROR |
| 09:40.23 | hrw | zecke: AT+CMEE=2 and then AT+CFUN=1 |
| 09:40.40 | hrw | AT+CMEE=2 enable text error messages |
| 09:41.57 | hrw | zecke: helped? |
| 09:42.38 | zecke | hrw: partly, it claims it is now on and needs a SIM PIN, refuses to take it though. Anyway time to start work |
| 09:43.07 | hrw | zecke: AT+CPIN="pin" does not work? if not then check pin |
| 09:43.42 | zecke|bcast | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.47 | Stephmw | hmmm, if you've tried too many times it might be locked, no? |
| 09:44.17 | yacc | zecke|bcast: how so? |
| 09:44.18 | hrw | Stephmw: I do not know does it not depend on modem |
| 09:44.32 | zecke|bcast | Stephmw: AT+CPIN? would require PUK1 in this case and not SIM PIN |
| 09:44.43 | yacc | Stephmw: SIMs usually need a PUK after 3 false tries. |
| 09:45.03 | balrog-kun | my SIM card started working yesterday and strangely enough i didn't need to enter the PIN a single time |
| 09:45.15 | balrog-kun | i could make calls, without knowing the PIN |
| 09:45.19 | Stephmw | lol |
| 09:45.25 | yacc | balrog-kun: it's possible to deactivate the PIN on a SIM. |
| 09:45.26 | hrw | balrog-kun: Heyah card? |
| 09:45.37 | Stephmw | so is PIN/PUK1/PUK2 enforced by phone software? |
| 09:45.43 | balrog-kun | hrw: Idea, (orange) |
| 09:46.05 | hrw | balrog-kun: I have Heyah card here which is PINless |
| 09:46.31 | balrog-kun | yacc: on my older phone, with the same card, i had to enter the PIN on every powering on |
| 09:46.46 | balrog-kun | and it would fail if i gave a wrong one |
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| 10:00.26 | SpeedEvil | http://www.grand-illusions.com/acatalog/info_Metal_Pen_Keyring.html was the keyring pen I was thinking of. Sits on a keyring, is 5cm long, and solid metal. |
| 10:01.46 | op3t | its already late may ... any body know when this phone available ? .. sory for lame question |
| 10:01.47 | aloril | op3t: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 10:03.33 | SpeedEvil | Well - no. |
| 10:03.48 | SpeedEvil | Maybe a day, maybe a week. |
| 10:04.31 | op3t | :D |
| 10:04.48 | op3t | thanks for the answer |
| 10:04.58 | SpeedEvil | There has been no firm date. |
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| 10:31.27 | obiter | msg NickServ IDENTIFY |
| 10:33.42 | Stephmw | I completely agree |
| 10:34.44 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Kernel/zh_cn/beijingxiezilou]] [[Chekumen]] [[Liver_transplant]] [[Beijingxiezilou]] [[Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973]] |
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| 10:41.25 | xkr47 | counter |
| 10:41.25 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 12:39:29 (1.527 +-1.5 days) (1317;218) |
| 10:42.03 | minime | woa woa woa, that guy's killing our poor openmoko-wiki |
| 10:42.49 | Stephmw | argh |
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| 10:47.05 | sixfeet | moin |
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| 10:48.52 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 12:35:45 (1.525 +-1.5 days) (1318;218) |
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| 10:49.56 | minime | hm. is there a dev/null page we can store that stuff to? :D |
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| 11:55.02 | pavelm | hello, everyone |
| 11:55.20 | pavelm | ...I got the openmoko bluetooth gps into "no longer time travels" mode, good. |
| 11:55.38 | hrw | hi pavelm |
| 11:56.25 | pavelm | hi, hrw! |
| 11:56.49 | tholin | pavelm: nice going. |
| 11:56.52 | SpeedEvil | Bluetooth gps? |
| 11:56.55 | pavelm | I thought about getting debian to run under chroot, unfortunately the micro-SD cards I have here do not work too well :-( |
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| 11:59.00 | pavelm | speed: openmoko has both bluetooth and gps; and with few scrips I'm using it as a bluetooth gps receiver (running map application on symbian phone). |
| 11:59.24 | SpeedEvil | Ah. |
| 11:59.29 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 11:59.54 | pavelm | speed: On symbian phone that actually has a _usable screen_ :-). |
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| 12:00.20 | ynezz | moko doesn't? :) |
| 12:00.40 | SpeedEvil | Sunlight issues? |
| 12:00.56 | pavelm | ynezz: no, moko is not usable in direct sunlight. |
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| 12:01.54 | pavelm | speed: Is such thing possible? Making it usable outside? |
| 12:02.01 | SpeedEvil | Maybe. |
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| 12:02.13 | Bish | what are u talkin about ß |
| 12:02.15 | SpeedEvil | I'm more interested in the possibility of lighting one small corner of the display. |
| 12:02.52 | SpeedEvil | Though sticking a 1W LED in there would probably work. |
| 12:02.56 | pavelm | speed: Wow, that sounds like a nice hack... for displaying clock? |
| 12:03.00 | SpeedEvil | Yes. |
| 12:03.09 | SpeedEvil | Clock and signal/... |
| 12:03.35 | SpeedEvil | However. The display may require the input signal all the time. |
| 12:03.43 | SpeedEvil | And that requires the CPU to be on. |
| 12:03.50 | SpeedEvil | Which reduces the benefits. |
| 12:04.05 | SpeedEvil | Unless it's possible - as some displays support - to draw on the screen over SPI. |
| 12:04.26 | CM | pavelm: Nice work with the gps :) |
| 12:04.38 | pavelm | speed: hmm, not sure about SPI. |
| 12:04.41 | pavelm | CM: Thanks. |
| 12:04.46 | SpeedEvil | Need actual datasheets. |
| 12:05.01 | SpeedEvil | Or someone with. |
| 12:06.00 | CM | Bish: With the current speed you'll have to wait to late 2008 or something ;) |
| 12:06.24 | hrw | pavelm: read comment on your last LJ post |
| 12:06.47 | sannes | shouldn't the first batch of buyable phones be produced already? |
| 12:07.10 | pavelm | hrw: that comment is wrong ;-) |
| 12:07.23 | hrw | sannes: they go through internal hw testing probably |
| 12:07.27 | pavelm | hrw: you need my older script to run gllin. This takes data from it. |
| 12:07.52 | hrw | sannes: bv3 had hw bugs and they want to be sure that bv4 which leave factory works OK |
| 12:07.56 | hrw | pavelm: ok |
| 12:08.20 | Bish | CM: i dont think so xD i believe in u guyz and in fic.. amen |
| 12:08.31 | CM | Hehe |
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| 12:10.05 | hrw | pavelm: you use 2.6.20 or 2.6.21 on neo? |
| 12:11.46 | pavelm | hrw: gps games are done on phase1 neo with original software. |
| 12:12.01 | pavelm | hrw: would like to get phase0 machine into "gps mode" too some day :-) |
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| 12:12.39 | kiney_ | counter |
| 12:12.39 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 11:53:52 (1.496 +-1.5 days) (1319;218) |
| 12:12.53 | SpeedEvil | (to find power sequencing) |
| 12:13.39 | Bish | wtf is a gps game? |
| 12:13.51 | SpeedEvil | openstreetmap.org |
| 12:13.55 | Rince | will someone from the OpenMoko-Developers be at the GPN this weekend? |
| 12:13.58 | SpeedEvil | Collect all the nodes! |
| 12:14.06 | SpeedEvil | Win absolutely no prizes! |
| 12:14.29 | pavelm | speed: I offer chocolate bar for the person that maps rest of prague ;-) |
| 12:14.41 | Bish | xD |
| 12:15.08 | pavelm | speed: Actually Elrond got it to work with new kernel, so I just need to ask, not play with multimeter. |
| 12:15.09 | hrw | pavelm: add "echo "1" > /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta01-pm-bt.0/reset" into script |
| 12:15.58 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 12:16.24 | pavelm | hrw: I need some very new kernel for that to wokr on phase0, right? |
| 12:16.31 | hrw | no idea |
| 12:17.37 | jeddy3_ | there has been very sparse reviews about hardware "feel"/quality/usability |
| 12:22.08 | Stephmw | jeddy3_: it's a bit early for that imo |
| 12:22.25 | Stephmw | jeddy3_: early hw doesn't usually pay too much attention to those details |
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| 12:23.14 | jeddy3_ | Stephmw, not too early, hopfully we'll be able to preorder soon, and it'll be interesting to know such things :) |
| 12:23.14 | hrw | $PGLOR,RID,GLL,182,5,023*4D |
| 12:23.18 | hrw | is all I got here |
| 12:23.37 | hrw | but thats in building |
| 12:23.58 | pavelm | hrw: Yes, that't the early hello. When you walk out of building, you should get more. |
| 12:24.06 | pavelm | hrw: Or just place it near window. |
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| 12:24.23 | pavelm | hrw: -periodic 1 |
| 12:24.27 | hrw | now it behave like hang. |
| 12:24.27 | pavelm | hrw: ...helps, too. |
| 12:24.52 | pavelm | jeddy: screen is very hard to read in direct sunglight. |
| 12:25.13 | pavelm | jeddy: and the software is not really designed for screen this small, so the combination is not too usable. |
| 12:28.13 | jeddy3_ | pavelm, ah ok...sounds like a ordinary screen problem getting worse by high dpi count, i can live with that...thanks! |
| 12:29.25 | hrw | pavelm: wow. it works |
| 12:30.13 | pavelm | hrw: so you get nmea now? |
| 12:30.37 | hrw | yes |
| 12:30.49 | hrw | "-periodic 1" works |
| 12:31.14 | hrw | pavelm: GPGSA/GPRMC/GPGGA lines |
| 12:31.38 | pavelm | hrw: if the gga lines contain your coordinates, you've won ;-) |
| 12:31.42 | hrw | brb |
| 12:32.53 | Pander_ | In order to boost the popularity of OpenMoko, why not offer an Ubuntu Feisty package that once installed provides you with one click startup of a simulation with Neo1973? then people can easily install the latest version and play around with it. |
| 12:33.44 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Press_Coverage]] [[Kernel/zh_cn/beijingxiezilou]] [[Chekumen]] [[Liver_transplant]] [[Beijingxiezilou]] |
| 12:33.57 | pavelm | pender: We have worse problems than "low popularity". |
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| 12:34.04 | pavelm | pender: But feel free to do the work. |
| 12:35.40 | tholin | I would prefer a vmware player image. Works on all dists and most operating systems. |
| 12:36.04 | tholin | maybe not _most_ operating systems... |
| 12:41.25 | guaqua | Pander_: make qemu does work |
| 12:43.14 | CM | guaqua: Not everywhere.. I can't even get qemu to build |
| 12:43.26 | CM | tholin: I agree, vmware image! |
| 12:43.56 | rwhitby | tholin: the openmoko core team is not too keen on vmware, being a closed-source proprietary VM and all ... |
| 12:44.01 | CM | rwhitby use a debian vmware image for all his mokomakefile stuff |
| 12:44.12 | CM | rwhitby: Hey there :-) |
| 12:44.27 | guaqua | CM: what distro is this? |
| 12:44.32 | SpeedEvil | tholin: But you are really welcome to stick a link on the wiki |
| 12:44.34 | rwhitby | very true. I test on Debian Etch under vmware, and CentOS 4 native. |
| 12:44.50 | Pander_ | guaqua: I'm talking about the people that do not have make installed, they also seen to exist in this world ;) (not me by the way) |
| 12:44.54 | CM | guaqua: Gentoo 64-bit with gcc-4.1, so I have myself to blame |
| 12:45.21 | rwhitby | Pander_: if someone does not have make installed, how are they going to contribute to development at this stage of the project? |
| 12:46.08 | rwhitby | If a non-developer (e.g. a reviewer) runs qemu and the current software, they will not get (or tell) a good perception of openmoko ... |
| 12:46.57 | Pander_ | rwhitby: demo, review, ideas, enabling new business. See it as a live demo. lots of things get sold even when they are not finished yet. If people can test it a bit, play around with it the project will get more attention and possabilities. |
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| 12:47.06 | tholin | there are other ways to contribute. Like translations. |
| 12:47.12 | lrak | at this stage it seems that contributing means waiting ;) |
| 12:47.24 | CM | lrak: Hehe |
| 12:47.36 | Pander_ | Irak: if we all wait twice as hard.... |
| 12:47.47 | rwhitby | Pander_: exactly - what I am saying is if that stuff were to happen right now, it would have a negative impact on openmoko, not a positive one (but that's just my opinion) |
| 12:48.40 | DukeOfURL | counter |
| 12:48.40 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 11:35:51 (1.483 +-1.5 days) (1320;218) |
| 12:49.07 | CM | Same as we're all excited that gps kind of work, but my sister/mom/dad wouldn't call that "working" |
| 12:49.14 | DukeOfURL | It's a beautiful morning |
| 12:49.23 | stefan_schmidt | lrak: Wouldn't say so. Openmoko-calculator and rssreader was already contributed from the community. |
| 12:49.31 | Pander_ | Not even a non-debug build would perform pretty quickly in simulation? Ok I get the point that at the moment it could od more harm. Like in those days Linux came without a GUI installer and the drivers you need ;) |
| 12:49.41 | stefan_schmidt | lrak: Even patches for bugfixes, etc. |
| 12:52.30 | hrw | how much gps satellites are needed to get position? here (near window) it catch 2-3 |
| 12:52.40 | SpeedEvil | 3 give a 2d fix |
| 12:52.41 | ewon | 4, afair |
| 12:52.44 | ewon | for a 3d |
| 12:52.45 | SpeedEvil | 4 a 3d fix |
| 12:53.04 | SpeedEvil | 2 constrain your position to a conic section |
| 12:53.15 | ewon | you won't see that in nmea though |
| 12:53.19 | SpeedEvil | No. |
| 12:53.27 | hrw | $GPGSV,1,1,03,08,,,35,27,,,35,13,,,31*77 |
| 12:53.32 | ewon | most gps's i've seen will just bleat at you until they get at least a 2d fix |
| 12:53.38 | lrak | stefan_schmidt: Im just bugged coz I do not have a Neo |
| 12:53.48 | hrw | that means 3 satellites |
| 12:54.01 | stefan_schmidt | lrak: Not all people contributed have a neo. |
| 12:54.03 | SpeedEvil | Some continue outputting fix data at 2 sat - for a time. |
| 12:54.05 | hrw | but gives only that: $GPGGA,125253.52,,,,,00,00,0.5,,M,0.0001999,M,0.0000099,*5E |
| 12:54.24 | SpeedEvil | Especially if you're given speed - from other sensors. |
| 12:55.18 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway, we have the qemu emulator and I don't see that we will bring a vmware image. People are free to do it on their own and share of course |
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| 13:02.33 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: hi. btw, if you can reach LaF0rge, please ask him to update the udc driver with the version sent to linux-usb-devel :) |
| 13:04.07 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: He was on a music festival the last days. Once he is back I ping him. Thanks for the info. |
| 13:04.19 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: ok :) |
| 13:04.21 | ewon | oops |
| 13:04.30 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: Any special fixes in that one? |
| 13:05.45 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: there were a lot of fixes in that one from bug fixes to CodingStyle fixes. Too many to be listed :) |
| 13:05.59 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: heh, ok |
| 13:06.54 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: you should have the info in gitweb if you want to get the list |
| 13:07.28 | rtp | oops. in my gitweb :) |
| 13:08.17 | stefan_schmidt | ah |
| 13:08.21 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: http://git.rtp-net.org/?p=h1940.git;a=shortlog;h=udc |
| 13:08.43 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: Once I reach Laf0rge I give him both links. |
| 13:08.58 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: thanks |
| 13:09.21 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: You have done the work. So thank you :) |
| 13:09.39 | rtp | fluff did a lot of work too :) |
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| 13:10.50 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: heh, nobody like to get the thanks. |
| 13:11.19 | hrw | is there any small gtk app for linux which can parse nmea and give some informations from it? |
| 13:12.01 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: did you had time to play with the qvga stuff ? |
| 13:13.09 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: Unfortunately not. ATM I do some work on userspace apps. QVGA is more an enhancement and apps need way more work. But I'll work on it again though |
| 13:14.56 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: You mean the patch from 2007-05-05? http://marc.info/?l=linux-usb-devel&m=117837753610940&w=2 |
| 13:15.05 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: ok. no problem. |
| 13:15.14 | rtp | yeah |
| 13:15.19 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 13:17.15 | rtp | stefan_schmidt: some news about the support of the pin code pop up ? :)) |
| 13:18.08 | stefan_schmidt | rtp: Should be fixed now. mickey|lunch added some code and the dialer now asked for the PIN. |
| 13:19.02 | rtp | great ! |
| 13:20.33 | amarsh04 | wicked suggestion for an openmoko device: something that combines the best features of the Neo 1973 and the OLPC hardware - including an LCD visible in full sunlight |
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| 13:25.52 | cheesy | counter |
| 13:25.53 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 11:17:15 (1.470 +-1.5 days) (1321;218) |
| 13:27.08 | cheesy | any official statements about the release? |
| 13:27.39 | Bish | 11.9.07 |
| 13:27.59 | Bish | Sep 11 07 :P |
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| 13:28.23 | pavelm | (sorry, my connection failed) |
| 13:30.04 | aloril | cheesy: only 2 week old official guess (in May) |
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| 14:02.49 | PBeck | hi |
| 14:06.51 | cheesy | hi PBeck |
| 14:07.45 | aloril | (script) openmoko-neo1973: Harald Welte <laforge at openmoko.org> Re: high speed parallel access to the CPU |
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| 14:21.49 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03stefan * r2092 10/trunk/oe/conf/distro/include/preferred-openmoko-versions.inc: |
| 14:21.49 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * Tasks upstream needs newer autoconf since svn rev 202. Use a known working |
| 14:21.49 | CIA-23 | openmoko: version to keep all building until we have a proper solution. |
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| 14:49.04 | don-o | counter |
| 14:49.05 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 10:35:39 (1.441 +-1.4 days) (1322;218) |
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| 14:57.20 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2093 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:57.20 | CIA-23 | openmoko: Patch by: Neil J Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 14:57.20 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * libmokojournal/src/moko-journal.c: (moko_journal_open_default), |
| 14:57.20 | CIA-23 | openmoko: (moko_journal_close), (moko_journal_remove_entry_at), |
| 14:57.20 | CIA-23 | openmoko: (moko_journal_remove_entry_by_uid), |
| 14:57.21 | CIA-23 | openmoko: (moko_journal_write_to_storage), (on_entries_added_cb): |
| 14:57.25 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * libmokojournal/src/moko-journal.h: |
| 14:58.56 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2094 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (3 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:58.56 | CIA-23 | openmoko: Patch by: Neil J Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 14:58.56 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * Uses correct icons for the history view. |
| 14:58.56 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * Checks that the entry it is loading is a voice entry. |
| 14:58.56 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * Properly loads all voice information. |
| 14:58.57 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * Fixed list-store types. |
| 14:59.01 | CIA-23 | openmoko: * Uses correct icons for incoming/outgoing/missed calls. |
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| 15:03.27 | simon__ | counter? |
| 15:03.27 | aloril | "/msg aloril counter?" for actual long message, giving short version here: http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 10:28:28 (1.436 +-1.4 days) (1323;218) |
| 15:03.46 | ewon | http://geektechnique.org/projectlab/781/slurpr-the-mother-of-all-wardrive-boxes |
| 15:04.59 | CM | ewon: Shame it's so expensive, but cool box |
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| 15:07.03 | ewon | uses atheros chipsets as well, so they can do packet injection.. crack WEP pretty quick. It's pretty obscene cost-wise for a wardriving box, but what a shiny piece of kit |
| 15:08.07 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2095 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): update default kernel to 2.6.21.3 |
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| 16:34.45 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[ChangeLog]] [[User:Azanutta]] [[Translation]] |
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| 16:54.52 | kiney | counter |
| 16:54.52 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 09:32:45 (1.398 +-1.4 days) (1324;218) |
| 16:55.43 | don-o | less than 40%. i cant even look. :( |
| 16:55.50 | don-o | er less than 50% i mean :) |
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| 17:11.44 | rox | still no orders, huh? |
| 17:12.43 | don-o | Han will have that shield down. We've got to give him more time! |
| 17:14.11 | rox | does anybody know why projects.openmoko.org is down? |
| 17:15.16 | LuitvD | problem with the database, that's all I can see... |
| 17:15.19 | LuitvD | don't know why |
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| 17:22.48 | pjz | IMHO they should give up on projects.openmoko.org and just host it at google code or someplace like that |
| 17:23.01 | pjz | running a project site isn't FIC's core competency |
| 17:23.24 | pjz | outsource! Kill NIH syndrom! |
| 17:23.33 | rox | pjz: you are porbably right |
| 17:23.57 | rox | pjz: at the end, openmoko is supposed to grow into a community project |
| 17:24.09 | pjz | right, so it should be hosted at a community site |
| 17:24.27 | pjz | SF or google code or savannah or someplace like that |
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| 17:26.29 | Elrond | As long, as it's not sf. ;-) |
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| 17:35.05 | rox | there has been some talk about blacklisting on mailing lists, no real conclusions, however |
| 17:36.06 | rox | anybody willing to discuss blacklisting design? |
| 17:36.36 | rox | my idea was that i should just make space for blacklisting profiles in eds |
| 17:36.42 | rox | then link those profiles to groups |
| 17:36.48 | rox | or individual contacts |
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| 18:00.49 | high-rez | counter |
| 18:00.50 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 08:59:46 (1.375 +-1.4 days) (1325;218) |
| 18:05.11 | LuitvD | hmm, Slurpr seems to use an Atheros chipset too :D |
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| 18:23.46 | pjz | rox: If groups can include other groups (which I don't know), then being able to blacklist just groups should be okay |
| 18:24.37 | rox | pjz: then each contach should belong to a group |
| 18:24.39 | pjz | rox: although 'blacklist' is a bit vague: does it mean 'ignore calls' or 'ignore sms' or 'ignore email' or all of the above? or just some of them |
| 18:24.54 | rox | pjz: that's the beauty of blacklist profiles |
| 18:25.04 | rox | pjz: you assign thoe to profiles |
| 18:25.11 | pjz | I see |
| 18:25.19 | pjz | hrm |
| 18:25.30 | pjz | maybe more general to just make them 'action profiles' |
| 18:26.02 | rox | pjz: you can set a profile where you reject calls but accept sms, or let call ring but keep phone siolent and reject sms |
| 18:26.31 | pjz | and let them specify ringer/vibrate/explosion for whoever's using the profile |
| 18:26.59 | pjz | and the profile can elect to override or not per-user profiles |
| 18:27.27 | rox | pjz: yes, but generally they are going to be used for blacklisting, so that is what i planned to do initially, but when i considered all the features required, yes, they transgressed into action profiles |
| 18:27.55 | rox | pjz: right, there should be a hierarchy ... default profile, group profile, individual profile, the later overriding the former |
| 18:28.50 | pjz | rox: I think each profile should be able to delegate the action to the subprofile if they want |
| 18:28.57 | rox | what you suggested is interesting and maybe should be an option |
| 18:29.18 | pjz | like I might block sms's from a bunch of younger kids, but want to allow their individual ringtones to come through |
| 18:29.35 | rox | right, so profiles could just specify one area of action and get the rest from superprofile |
| 18:29.45 | pjz | right |
| 18:30.21 | pjz | the UI should probably have an option 'use individual settings' or 'delegate to individual' or something like that |
| 18:31.23 | rox | well, best not clutter the interface toomuch |
| 18:31.47 | rox | as far as i have tried it out,the neo interface is a bit unpleasent as it is |
| 18:31.56 | pjz | yeah, I'm kinda annoyed by that |
| 18:32.24 | pjz | I've messed with it in qemu and it's a bit... odd |
| 18:33.10 | rox | well, i'm used to nokia interfaces and those are pretty good |
| 18:33.28 | rox | generally, people who get used to nokia interfaces have hard time dealing with others |
| 18:34.05 | rox | although they've cluttered their interface up too recently |
| 18:34.19 | rox | too many confirmations |
| 18:34.42 | rox | as for profiles |
| 18:34.52 | rox | i was considering these options |
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| 18:35.29 | rox | sms: accept | throw in /dev/null |
| 18:35.45 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wishlist:Text_Input]] [[Main_Page]] |
| 18:36.42 | rox | calls: ring | reject | let ring and don'tmake a sound but stillleave missed call | same as previous but no missed call | answer and play a sound file |
| 18:37.42 | rox | emails could probably be treated the same as sms |
| 18:38.46 | pjz | sms: accept | accept silently | ignore |
| 18:40.00 | pjz | calls: accept | silent ring & log | silent ring & no log | reject | ignore |
| 18:40.13 | pjz | reject should do whatever it is taht sends them to voicemail |
| 18:40.30 | pjz | ignore should hang up on them |
| 18:42.18 | ynezz | or dial some number to behave as "busy" line |
| 18:43.31 | ynezz | it should be possible to get some early info about incoming call - at least i've read it here ;) |
| 18:44.03 | rox | pjz: i also want to implement the "answer and play some sound" option |
| 18:44.08 | rox | pjz: just for the fun of it |
| 18:45.14 | rox | pjz: what is the difference between silent ring & no log and ignore? |
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| 19:19.56 | mickeyl | !seen XorA |
| 19:19.57 | cdbot2 | I found 8 matches to your query. Here are the 5 most recent (sorted): XorA|gone XorA dp__ Fake XOrA|lunch. XorA|gone (n=dp@www.xora.org.uk) was last seen changing nicks from XorA on #oe 3 hours, 31 minutes ago. XorA|gone is still there. |
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| 19:20.34 | pjz | rox: silent ring & no log is jsut that: ring silently so you can see who's calling, but don't add the number to the missed calls list |
| 19:20.59 | pjz | rox: ignore is 'send them straight to voicemail' |
| 19:21.52 | pjz | mickeyl: any feeling on if we'll see the phone come out tomorrow? |
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| 19:29.59 | mickeyl | pjz: i have been a bit out of the loop... tomorrow seems unlikely, however afaik it looks like something like 1000 should be finished in a couple of days |
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| 19:37.25 | LoDown | will this run have wifi, or not? |
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| 19:37.43 | MacNorthXP | if they're P1 phones, then no |
| 19:37.59 | LoDown | ok...i didn't know if they were the P1 or P1+ phones being run off |
| 19:39.21 | pjz | mickeyl: cool, thanks for the info |
| 19:39.50 | mjr | one presumes P1, since, well, P1+ is supposed to be after P1+, right? |
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| 19:40.01 | mjr | s/+,/,/ |
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| 19:44.44 | ciastek | hello! i have problem with unsubscirbing from mailing list. i ask for remembering password, but no mail arrives. anyone have had similar problem? |
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| 19:56.41 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03mickey * r2096 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux-qemu/: oe: yank linux-qemu since we now have a 'real' neo1973ified qemu |
| 19:57.51 | mickeyl | !seen magoin |
| 19:57.53 | mickeyl | !seen magon |
| 19:57.53 | cdbot2 | mickeyl, I don't remember seeing magoin. |
| 19:57.55 | cdbot2 | Magon (n=Magon@archangel.kolej.mff.cuni.cz) was last seen quitting from #openmoko 5 hours, 22 minutes ago stating ({"Lost} terminal\"). |
| 19:58.36 | mickeyl | ibot: botmail to magon hey. you mentioned something about patches? i sorted my connectivity problems out, please mail to me and cc' openmoko-devel. thanks! |
| 19:58.44 | mickeyl | argh |
| 19:58.45 | mickeyl | wrong botname |
| 19:58.49 | mickeyl | apt: botmail to magon hey. you mentioned something about patches? i sorted my connectivity problems out, please mail to me and cc' openmoko-devel. thanks! |
| 20:00.11 | Philippe | hi mickeyl! |
| 20:00.23 | Philippe | wondered if you could help me out with something. |
| 20:00.33 | mickeyl | probably not, but what's up? :) |
| 20:01.07 | Philippe | I finally managed to get my OpenMoko in halt mode with OpenOcd. But I don't seem to get a working bootloader in there. |
| 20:01.46 | Philippe | I am a bit confused about the memory initialisation part. |
| 20:02.26 | Philippe | I cannot find a correct bin file for it apparently |
| 20:02.43 | Philippe | I tried using the method described here : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader#Using_JTAG_to_boot_from_RAM |
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| 20:05.59 | prpplague | interesting, why upload a bin specifically for doing init on the sdram? |
| 20:06.07 | mickeyl | grab the correct lowlevel init from the buildhost |
| 20:06.11 | mickeyl | i'll get you a link |
| 20:06.23 | mickeyl | NOTE though, i recommend letting devirginate do all the dirty work though |
| 20:06.33 | mickeyl | so once you know how it goes manually, try using devirginate |
| 20:06.53 | Philippe | mickeyl: ah, I did not know devirginate could do it. |
| 20:07.10 | Philippe | I must say OpenOcd is some impressive tool |
| 20:07.17 | mickeyl | Philippe: grab http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.04/images/lowlevel_foo-gta01bv3-r4_8048cdd56f04a756eeea4951f402bf5cc33785db_0_1764.bin |
| 20:07.21 | mickeyl | for your Bv3 |
| 20:07.24 | koen | afaik devirginate is still horrendously broken |
| 20:07.54 | prpplague | mickeyl: wheres the source for that? |
| 20:08.38 | mickeyl | prpplague: dunno offhand. that's handcrafted asm from Laf0rge |
| 20:08.56 | mickeyl | probably emitted by the uboot recipe, yeah |
| 20:08.57 | Philippe | I managed to turn my v4 in a vibrator for a while playing with OpenOcd |
| 20:09.05 | mickeyl | heh |
| 20:09.10 | prpplague | mickeyl: hmm, i'd really like to see that source |
| 20:09.11 | Philippe | But the same thing did not really work on my v3 |
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| 20:15.25 | prpplague | mickeyl: yea it appears to be built in uboot |
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| 20:16.34 | prpplague | interesting though, i just used openocd scripts to do my init |
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| 20:26.59 | Elrond | Good evening mickeyl! :-) |
| 20:28.42 | mickey|bbi1h | hey Elrond |
| 20:28.48 | mickey|bbi1h | just about to bring my wife to bed |
| 20:28.56 | mickey|bbi1h | will be back in 60 minutes |
| 20:28.58 | mickey|bbi1h | you too? |
| 20:29.05 | mickey|bbi1h | s/too/will still be here/ |
| 20:29.19 | high-rez | Slightly OT, anyone else have a problem with Teliax being down? |
| 20:29.33 | Elrond | mickey|bbi1h - Yes, I'll be here in an hour... but not bringing a women to bed. ;-) |
| 20:29.51 | mickey|bbi1h | hehe. ok, talk to ya then. |
| 20:30.19 | mickey|bbi1h | actually bringing Sabine to bed will take 15 minutes and the rest will be a pre-midnight snack cough |
| 20:31.04 | kiney | counter |
| 20:31.05 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 07:44:39 (1.323 +-1.3 days) (1326;218) |
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| 20:31.47 | kiney | hmm, the counter is broken? |
| 20:31.47 | kiney | counter? |
| 20:31.47 | aloril | "/msg aloril counter?" for actual long message, giving short version here: http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 07:44:17 (1.322 +-1.3 days) (1327;218) |
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| 20:32.47 | kiney | ah, it just lags |
| 20:34.45 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[IPhone]] [[IPhone/de]] [[Main_Page/de]] [[Main_Page]] [[Talk:IPhone]] [[Wishlist:Text_Input]] [[Calendar]] |
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| 20:36.24 | Bish | commander :( |
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| 20:36.45 | Bish | ops wrong channel |
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| 20:40.53 | Philippe | mickey|bbi1h: Thanks for the lowlevel stuff! v3 is back alive! |
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| 21:24.33 | mickeyl | Philippe: congrats! |
| 21:25.21 | mickeyl | Shoragan: Sherlock! (re. your blog post) |
| 21:25.36 | Philippe | mickeyl: I guess you are to thank for getting it to run. |
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| 21:25.49 | wehttamb_ | counter |
| 21:25.49 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 07:17:17 (1.304 +-1.3 days) (1328;218) |
| 21:25.52 | Philippe | Now I can lend it out to some people who want to help hacking on it. :-) |
| 21:26.22 | mickeyl | cool |
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| 21:30.47 | Elrond | Hi mickeyl :-)) |
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| 21:33.25 | mickeyl | yo :) |
| 21:36.12 | Shoragan | mickeyl, was it still secret? |
| 21:36.41 | mickeyl | pretty much, yeah |
| 21:37.05 | mickeyl | anyway, it's not settled |
| 21:37.07 | mickeyl | we're evaluating options |
| 21:37.10 | mickeyl | which involves stub drivers |
| 21:37.32 | Shoragan | ah, i thought the changelogs are public anyway |
| 21:38.19 | mickeyl | sure, they are |
| 21:38.27 | Elrond | Huh, what are you guys talking about? |
| 21:38.54 | Shoragan | and it seem interesting enough to blog about it |
| 21:38.59 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 21:38.59 | mickeyl | no kidding |
| 21:39.06 | mickeyl | it is |
| 21:39.21 | Elrond | Are you talking about the smedia thing? |
| 21:39.26 | mickeyl | ya |
| 21:39.34 | Shoragan | the one on the website is not very detailed |
| 21:39.36 | SpeedEvil | I want a proper datasheet. |
| 21:39.43 | Elrond | Well, it was obvious from the commitlogs. |
| 21:39.53 | Elrond | SpeedEvil - Yeah, I want one too. |
| 21:40.05 | SpeedEvil | A device like that - with a few apps, and no datasheet would _SUCK_. |
| 21:40.10 | Elrond | SpeedEvil - As usual, I'm interested in the power consumption. |
| 21:40.16 | SpeedEvil | Me too. |
| 21:40.23 | Shoragan | it seems very low power |
| 21:40.28 | SpeedEvil | It _could_ possibly reduce power consumption. |
| 21:40.47 | SpeedEvil | If it can output to the LCD with the CPU in off/slow mode. |
| 21:40.49 | Elrond | SpeedEvil - You mean by having the framebuffer RAM on the GPU? |
| 21:41.15 | SpeedEvil | Basically. |
| 21:41.21 | SpeedEvil | OR even if it uses main RAM. |
| 21:41.32 | Shoragan | and i've compared the performance numbers in the datasheet with some benchmarks of nokia phones and it seems pretty fast |
| 21:42.01 | Shoragan | i think it has its own framebuffer |
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| 21:42.44 | Elrond | Well, if it reduces overall power consumption, I'm all for it. But otherwise, I don't need 3d games on this toy. :-) |
| 21:43.07 | Shoragan | it also uses the 3d engine for accelerated 2d |
| 21:43.13 | Shoragan | (same fillrate) |
| 21:46.16 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03mickey * r2097 10/trunk/oe/conf/machine/fic-gta01.conf: oe: include asoc modules for Neo1973 in rootfs |
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| 21:49.13 | Elrond | Ahh, good. Next rootfs with more modules. ;-) |
| 21:49.29 | CIA-23 | openmoko: 03mickey * r2098 10/trunk/oe/packages/linux/ (9 files): oe/linux-gta01*: autoload kernel-module-snd-soc-neo1973-wm8753 |
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| 21:56.58 | SpeedEvil | And how often do you need accellerated 2D on a phone? |
| 21:57.03 | SpeedEvil | If you're not using games. |
| 21:57.38 | Elrond | SpeedEvil - Yeah, exactly. |
| 21:57.44 | SpeedEvil | If this chip is $5 (say). It's going to add at least $10 onto the price of the phone. |
| 21:58.25 | Elrond | hum. |
| 21:58.27 | SpeedEvil | If it does not reduce power consumption, to the extent that the CPU can be in slow mode most of the time when playing MP3/mpg then I don't really want it. |
| 21:58.51 | Elrond | Yeah, same here. |
| 21:59.18 | Elrond | At least not as a phone. ;o) |
| 21:59.44 | SpeedEvil | True. And games have the fundamental problem of getting them written. |
| 22:00.04 | Elrond | Yeah. ;) |
| 22:00.19 | SpeedEvil | Look at the wide catalog on the GPX2... |
| 22:00.33 | SpeedEvil | Though emulators can work. |
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| 22:01.22 | Elrond | Would cairo win using the 2d accel? That could be nice for doing things like "drawing maps" :) |
| 22:02.03 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - smooth scrolling large maps could possibly do with some help. |
| 22:03.28 | Elrond | mickeyl, stefan_schmidt - Does any of you two now, why the Bv03 still runs at 100MHz by default? |
| 22:03.50 | Kensan | ScumVM |
| 22:04.16 | stefan_schmidt | Elrond: It's 200MHz and we had some trouble with 266MHz. But that should be fixed |
| 22:04.41 | mickeyl | Elrond: because Bv3 inherently has a hardware bug in conjunction w/ the debug board |
| 22:05.00 | mickeyl | if you don't use a debug board, feel free to set it to 266 in U-Boot permanently |
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| 22:05.25 | mjr | mickeyl, good to know. That it isn't an issue w/o. |
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| 22:05.55 | Elrond | Hmm, I think, this one likes 100... let me boot it into u-boot. |
| 22:06.12 | filippo | counter |
| 22:06.12 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 40%) P1: a day 06:57:05 (1.290 +-1.3 days) (1329;218) |
| 22:10.10 | Elrond | mickeyl, stefan_schmidt Okay... I take that back... It's really at 200. :-) As I don't have a debug board, I can put it at 266 for this boot. ;-) |
| 22:10.53 | SpeedEvil | Tie down the pressure relief valve, and go for 300! :) |
| 22:11.37 | Elrond | SpeedEvil - *lol* I think, it can't :-) |
| 22:15.14 | mickeyl | Elrond: it might feel like 100, but it's really 200 ;) |
| 22:16.16 | Elrond | mickeyl - Yeah. :-) |
| 22:17.10 | slider | NOTE: Applying patch '303-c99-complex-ugly-hack.patch' - this is frightening me :) |
| 22:17.50 | Elrond | mickeyl - BTW: I have a few issues (all non-critical, and I'm not available as a u-boot tester) with u-boot and other things. How's the traffic on bugzilla currently? Should I better keep them for me or annoy everybody with them? |
| 22:18.56 | mickeyl | Elrond: feel free to go ahead on bugzilla. please add them w/ severity minor (in case they're really are). |
| 22:21.12 | Elrond | Okay. :-) |
| 22:21.39 | Elrond | I don't want to annoy people. I think, they're already troubled enough. :) |
| 22:21.45 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: information efficient text enty using dasher |
| 22:22.15 | SpeedEvil | Dasher sucks. |
| 22:22.23 | mickeyl | indeed, we're way behind our schedule sigh |
| 22:22.28 | SpeedEvil | Unless you stare at it. |
| 22:22.37 | mickeyl | i'm going to Taiwan on 8th to kick some asses ;) |
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| 22:23.00 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:23.07 | mickeyl | heya CoreDump|home |
| 22:23.53 | CoreDump|home | hey mickeyl, long time no see =) |
| 22:24.17 | mickeyl | indeed |
| 22:24.23 | mickeyl | ~lart connectivity problems |
| 22:24.23 | apt | drops a truckload of VAXen on connectivity problems |
| 22:24.30 | Elrond | Hi CoreDump|home :-) |
| 22:24.36 | CoreDump|home | Elrond: hi |
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| 22:24.56 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: I had to wait close to 5 weeks to get connected when I moved :\ |
| 22:25.01 | Elrond | mickeyl - BTW: One good news: I got the gps on Bv03 to give me some bytes. And I have python running on the Bv03. :-) |
| 22:25.07 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: sucky, ya |
| 22:25.23 | mickeyl | Elrond: coolness! do you blog? you should :) |
| 22:25.34 | SpeedEvil | Or jam it on the wiki. |
| 22:25.42 | hads | Elrond: Nice one |
| 22:25.51 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: i nearly went back to T**** since Alice couldn't switch on the proper socket in my new home |
| 22:26.05 | mickeyl | CoreDump|home: however it works now... bg |
| 22:26.10 | cworth | Elrond: I'm very much looking forward to hints on talking to the GPS. Please keep us posted. |
| 22:26.27 | CoreDump|home | mickeyl: I read the backlog, good job =) |
| 22:26.34 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: So we should not ask how you solve it. :) |
| 22:27.20 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: yes, please. can't say more than.... |
| 22:27.24 | mickeyl | ~praise screwdrivers |
| 22:27.26 | apt | All hail screwdrivers! |
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| 22:27.56 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: hu, *you* doing hardware? Seems I really don't need to know more. ;) |
| 22:28.24 | mickeyl | hahaha |
| 22:28.49 | mickeyl | to be honest, i had help from friend who's EE |
| 22:28.55 | Stephmw | mickeyl: next you'll tell us to stop this silly stuff with C and assembly and code in Ruby or something |
| 22:30.47 | Elrond | cworth - I'll do. I got a bit distracted, when I couldn't reproduce the C code in python (python would have been so much easier to hack around random byte streams...) |
| 22:32.36 | Elrond | mickeyl - I don't blog yet. I didn't see much use in it. But maybe It might be better to get some attention. ;-) |
| 22:33.14 | Elrond | Any recommendations on a blog-software (on debian-stable) or hoster? |
| 22:33.17 | cworth | Elrond: I'd been holding out for years, but finally broke down and started blogging about a week ago. |
| 22:34.33 | Elrond | cworth - :-)) |
| 22:34.57 | Elrond | cworth - Same here... I only do this hype-stuff two years after the hype is over. ;-) |
| 22:35.04 | Elrond | Night Stephmw[Zzzzz] |
| 22:35.44 | mickeyl | Elrond: i swear on Wordpress |
| 22:35.45 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Main_Page]] |
| 22:35.45 | mickeyl | it rocks |
| 22:35.51 | mickeyl | ah |
| 22:35.54 | mickeyl | translation error |
| 22:35.59 | mickeyl | i love Wordpress, actually |
| 22:36.29 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: wordpress is a security nightmare. :) |
| 22:36.54 | alphaone | actually php is :-) |
| 22:36.56 | cworth | mickeyl: "I swear by wordpress" would work. |
| 22:37.02 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: indeed |
| 22:37.13 | alphaone | Or was, I'm not really up2date on php anymore. |
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| 22:37.20 | Elrond | Did I now start the blog-software-flamewar? |
| 22:37.30 | Elrond | ... like the usual editor-flamewar? ;o) |
| 22:37.34 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: Was? PHP is dead? |
| 22:37.48 | stefan_schmidt | Elrond: There is only one editor ;) |
| 22:37.52 | stefan_schmidt | *caugh* |
| 22:37.53 | alphaone | Elrond: yeah, typo/rails 4 ever ;-) |
| 22:38.00 | mitsuhiko | alphaone: pah |
| 22:38.02 | cworth | Elrond: I'm using ikiwiki, but it wouldn't suit everybody, (hard to set up, no beautiful styles by default, but it's very flexible and it has the interface I want---"git push" to publish). |
| 22:38.09 | mitsuhiko | i hate php but wordpress is a lot easier to maintain than typo |
| 22:38.22 | stefan_schmidt | cworth: I do make distrib :) |
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| 22:39.00 | cworth | And then I do end up with nothing but static webpages to actually deliver which is kind on both efficiency and security fronts. |
| 22:39.02 | alphaone | mitsuhiko: I like to use apps I can actually understand if I need to... |
| 22:39.20 | alphaone | So it really depends on what you're comfortable with. |
| 22:39.41 | Elrond | cworth - Heck... I love git. :) |
| 22:40.02 | mitsuhiko | alphaone: well. customizing wordpress was easier for me |
| 22:40.02 | alphaone | cworth: Sounds nice |
| 22:40.10 | mitsuhiko | and ruby is creepy slow |
| 22:40.31 | cworth | Elrond: Well, maybe soon I'll blog about setting up a git-based blog with ikiwiki, (the shipping instructions work, but they're not ideal I think). |
| 22:40.35 | mitsuhiko | at least it requires fastcgi and there the dispatchers love to die |
| 22:40.48 | Elrond | cworth - ;-) |
| 22:41.30 | mitsuhiko | cworth: langauge? templates? |
| 22:41.34 | mitsuhiko | *language |
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| 22:45.21 | cworth | mitsuhiko: ikiwiki supports a bunch of languages. I use the default markdown. There's a perl-based plugin interface for doing anything else. |
| 22:45.54 | cworth | mitsuhiko: It doesn't really ship with any interesting templates, but does have a template system so you can design your own. |
| 22:47.02 | mitsuhiko | cworth: so it's perl powered? |
| 22:47.24 | stefan_schmidt | Once the flamewar started I leave. :) Night folks |
| 22:47.31 | cworth | mitsuhiko: Yes, it's written in perl. And it just compiles the source into static HTML. |
| 22:47.53 | mitsuhiko | cworth: so no comments? |
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| 22:48.21 | stefan_schmidt | mitsuhiko: Comments are just for Spammer. :) |
| 22:48.31 | mitsuhiko | stefan_schmidt: haha |
| 22:48.44 | cworth | mitsuhiko: Oh, it does include a CGI script as well. It's originally a wiki implementation, (that I think works quite well for blogging). |
| 22:49.06 | cworth | mitsuhiko: But I don't have any of the CGI stuff enabled on my blog, so no comments here, no. |
| 22:49.20 | mitsuhiko | i think i'm happy with wordpress for now |
| 22:49.35 | Elrond | Hmm, advogato (what ever it's current reputation is...) has blogging service... I could reactivate my account there. ;-) |
| 22:49.38 | mitsuhiko | works quite well, has a community, theming it was easy. 'nuf for now |
| 22:50.03 | cworth | mitsuhiko: Yup. |
| 22:50.40 | cworth | mitsuhiko: I think the big thing that kept me from just using wordpress was I really wanted to publish separate feeds for different categories. |
| 22:51.38 | cworth | mitsuhiko: With ikiwki I'm getting a separate feed for every tag, and I'm setting up two pages now "blog/technical" and "blog/personal" which will target the two audiences of basically "free software hackers" vs. "my family". |
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| 22:52.00 | mitsuhiko | cworth: i have separate feeds for the categories |
| 22:52.07 | mitsuhiko | cworth: http://lucumr.pocoo.org/cogitations/ |
| 22:52.09 | mitsuhiko | see the list below |
| 22:52.15 | mitsuhiko | click on a tag, and then check the feed |
| 22:52.27 | cworth | mitsuhiko: Ah, so I just missed that then. |
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| 23:01.35 | mickey|zzZZzz | g'night |
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| 23:02.21 | Elrond | Night mickey|zzZZzz :) |
| 23:04.19 | neostrider | hello ! |
| 23:05.06 | CoreDump|home | don't try to charge Neo w/ a cheap powered USB hub. The hub might not survive the attempts :\ |
| 23:05.37 | Elrond | CoreDump|home - Huh, what did you do?! |
| 23:06.16 | CoreDump|home | fry a cheap "equip" hub =) |
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| 23:07.00 | Elrond | That's not good, if the neo does that. |
| 23:07.26 | Elrond | CoreDump|home - I hope you still have warranty on the hub? |
| 23:07.58 | CoreDump|home | not really but I can live with it beeing dead. It was a piece of crap anyway |
| 23:08.50 | LuitvD | damn there's an enormous amount of bad jokes around that first indi500 car crash... :P |
| 23:09.29 | LuitvD | 'the linux car' |
| 23:09.50 | LuitvD | :P |
| 23:10.54 | Elrond | CoreDump|home - Realy that stupid company should have replaced it a few times and finally give you the money back. :) |
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| 23:12.31 | Elrond | Good night people. :-) |
| 23:12.49 | cheesy | good night Elrond |
| 23:19.33 | Kensan | Somebody seems to be spamming the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=1&diff=8910&oldid=8902 |
| 23:23.11 | don-o | Kensan: user Pipa needs to be banned |
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| 23:28.52 | balrog-kun | and shot |
| 23:34.40 | Kensan | at least he made me register for the wiki ;) |
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| 23:48.32 | KeyserSoze | So, "Anyone can buy for $350 starting perhaps late May.". How do I go about buying one? |
| 23:48.32 | aloril | KeyserSoze: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 23:50.48 | mjr | KeyserSoze, you don't yet |
| 23:51.27 | KeyserSoze | thanks mjr |
| 23:51.41 | KeyserSoze | do you know when? |
| 23:51.52 | mjr | mickeyl said "afaik it looks like something like 1000 should be finished in a couple of days" |
| 23:52.08 | KeyserSoze | people already on a waiting list for those? |
| 23:52.22 | mjr | let's hope he knows, and let's hope they'll also start sales asap |
| 23:52.29 | KeyserSoze | hehe |
| 23:52.45 | KeyserSoze | do y'all need any u-boot or kernel help? |
| 23:52.45 | mjr | and preorders aren't in yet |
| 23:53.00 | mjr | some people have been promised preferential queuing spots though, such as myself |
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| 23:54.27 | KeyserSoze | which is nice, because i'd rather just work on apps :) |
| 23:55.20 | don-o | mjr: a thousand? nice. that would satisfy the Buying_Interest_List's 293 entries. |
| 23:58.13 | mjr | yeah, though one hopes that isn't all the interest out there |