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| 00:26.45 | Mukunda | I know this isn't really the right place to ask, but does anyone here know much about iPaqs? |
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| 00:35.08 | balrog-kun | how much? |
| 00:38.01 | Mukunda | No problem, I've got some help. |
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| 01:02.56 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[IPhone]] [[Bluetooth_Support]] |
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| 01:47.51 | pjz | WTF is MokoMakefile doing!? |
| 01:48.16 | pjz | it seems to be looping going lots of builds |
| 01:52.58 | rwhitby | pjz: worked for me less than 4 hours ago ... |
| 01:53.10 | rwhitby | can you pastebin what you are seeing? |
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| 02:44.38 | pjz | rwhitby: it seems to have fixed itself by me restarting the build |
| 02:45.35 | LetoTo | by build died uncompressing OE.mtn, with a "file already exists". I removed it, but now i get other "already exist errors" |
| 02:45.47 | LetoTo | do i really need to rm -r everything for MokoMakefile? |
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| 03:02.56 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[IPhone]] |
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| 06:55.40 | sparq | Sad. Very sad. |
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| 07:06.57 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Community_Events]] |
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| 07:13.38 | TRIsoft | morning |
| 07:13.39 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:51.56 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Sean Moss-Pultz <sean at openmoko.com> Re: FCC Approval |
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| 08:05.56 | aloril | (script) planet: Jon Phillips: OpenMoko, OpenEmbedded, GMAE and Ubuntu Mobile Initiative http://rejon.org/2007/05/09/openmoko-openembedded-gmae-and-ubuntu-mobile-initiative/ |
| 08:06.41 | CM | aloril: Your script rocks :) |
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| 08:08.02 | Pander | Ubuntu version of OpenMoko??? |
| 08:09.32 | ynezz | competition is always good... |
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| 08:43.28 | CM | ynezz: They were making fun of some Novell guy on the latest LUGRadio for using the word "coopetition" ;) |
| 08:44.04 | ynezz | :) |
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| 09:06.56 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Talk:Getting_OpenMoko_working_on_host_with_Xephyr]] [[OpenMoko:Community_Portal]] [[Getting_OpenMoko_working_on_host_with_Xephyr]] [[Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973/de]] [[MokoMakefile/de]] [[Main_Page/de]] |
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| 09:22.35 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2063 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/asoc.patch: Fix s3c24xx spinlock lockup bug from http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-May/001105.html (Zoltan Devai) |
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| 10:33.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2064 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/artwork/icons/openmoko-standard/ (106 files in 2 dirs): icons: remove svg icons from build, and add converted pngs to 36x36 |
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| 10:36.35 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03laforge * r2065 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/s3c2410_touchscreen.patch: |
| 10:36.35 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Add proper S3C2440 support to s3c2410_ts driver by |
| 10:36.35 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * introducing a new s3c2440-ts platform_device |
| 10:36.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * initializing GPIO functions only on 2410, not on 2440. |
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| 11:06.57 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wishlist:Finger_based_Ebook_Reader]] [[Introduction]] [[Shipping_Notes]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
| 11:08.27 | aloril | so its S3C2440 in P1+ ? |
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| 11:12.53 | SpeedEvil | \ |
| 11:12.55 | SpeedEvil | \\ |
| 11:13.00 | SpeedEvil | sigh |
| 11:13.44 | XorA | SpeedEvil: cheer up it could be worse |
| 11:15.24 | SpeedEvil | Yeah, I could be totally unable to type. |
| 11:16.14 | XorA | it could also be monday |
| 11:16.50 | SpeedEvil | So monday has no terrors. |
| 11:18.36 | ewon | SpeedEvil: harsh |
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| 11:26.38 | Stephmw | SpeedEvil: you're welcome to mine |
| 11:26.47 | Stephmw | SpeedEvil: I'm quitting mid-august |
| 11:29.50 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2066 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (3 files): |
| 11:29.50 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Patch by Neil J Patel <njp@o-hand.com> |
| 11:29.50 | CIA-24 | openmoko: openmoko-dialer: Re-write of autocomplete functionality |
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| 11:46.22 | Bish | hay guyz, will i be able to use the "speaker" of the neo as stereo ( playin music very loud :P ? ) ? |
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| 12:03.45 | SpeedEvil | Bish: It's got 2*20mm speakers or so. What do you think. |
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| 12:05.07 | mattzerah | hehe, one huge party ! |
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| 12:05.31 | roh | Bish hehe.. yeah |
| 12:05.42 | SpeedEvil | You can plug amplified speakers into it. |
| 12:05.52 | SpeedEvil | (with the correct adaptor) |
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| 12:06.27 | XorA | the phone is quiet loud for its size |
| 12:06.37 | mattzerah | is it going to have standard connectors? I assume it will take a 2.5 or 3.5 mm plug for headphones ? |
| 12:06.41 | XorA | s/quiet/quite/ |
| 12:06.44 | SpeedEvil | Yeah - for speech, probably OK - it won't be hifi. |
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| 12:08.00 | mattzerah | sorry, another quick question which everyones probably sick of..... is there actually wifi in the phone for this run ? |
| 12:08.01 | CM | mattzerah: 2.5mm, check the wiki :) |
| 12:08.13 | mattzerah | i've been looking at the wiki :) |
| 12:08.17 | mattzerah | havn't come across it yet, sorry : |
| 12:08.18 | mattzerah | :/ |
| 12:08.29 | CM | wifi? |
| 12:08.29 | aloril | P1.5 will likely have WiFi (Atheros AR6K): http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2007-April/000012.html http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_rationale_behind_the_exclusion_of_WiFi.3F (WiFi status for P1.5 will be known for sure when P1 becomes available and also what kind of discount for P1.5 is given for P1 buyers) |
| 12:08.35 | XorA | 2.5mm in an annoying wiring |
| 12:08.40 | mattzerah | likely, so not sure yet ? |
| 12:09.01 | CM | mattzerah: Yes, nothing confirmed yet |
| 12:09.09 | mattzerah | oh, sorry, misread - so "this" run will be p1 wouldn't it ? |
| 12:09.22 | mattzerah | i only found this project 2 days ago - i'm pumped ! |
| 12:09.29 | CM | :) |
| 12:09.33 | XorA | counter |
| 12:09.33 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 60%) P1: 4 days 11:55:22 (4.497 +-4.5 days) (1254;212) |
| 12:09.41 | mattzerah | i want to start developing some tools - but a bit busy at the moment - work :/ |
| 12:09.43 | SpeedEvil | No, no wifi on phase 1 |
| 12:10.07 | mattzerah | thats cool - cant have EVERYTHING in the first run |
| 12:10.17 | mattzerah | need to give the oposition a chance ;) |
| 12:11.18 | mattzerah | thanx SpeedEvil |
| 12:11.22 | mattzerah | and CM |
| 12:11.25 | mattzerah | :) |
| 12:11.31 | mattzerah | i'll be back! |
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| 12:24.22 | Bish | roh: hehe yeah what:P it wont be possible? |
| 12:25.53 | hrw | morning |
| 12:27.10 | Bish | again: will i be able to use the neo as a little stereo(loud music) ? |
| 12:27.11 | Bish | :P |
| 12:27.30 | XorA | Bish: yes |
| 12:27.46 | XorA | Bish: buts its a crappy little stereo with much distortion |
| 12:28.09 | cheesy | like most little stereos out there ;) |
| 12:29.01 | Stephmw | SpeedEvil: I'm hurt you didn't jump at the chance of taking my job :( |
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| 12:29.56 | XorA | time for #openmoko-job-swap |
| 12:30.26 | Stephmw | XorA: but what can I do if I can't even give it away? |
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| 12:38.37 | Bish | but it will just be like a samsung d500-900 XorA ? |
| 12:38.43 | Bish | or crappier :P? |
| 12:41.28 | Bish | your position in openmoko developement is quite special , uh? XorA ? |
| 12:42.45 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03andrew * r2068 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/ (14 files): Save/restore support for PXA2xx on-chip peripherals, the microdrive, the MAX7310, MAX1110/1, ADS7846, Scoop devices, Sharp flash. |
| 12:50.28 | XorA | Bish: who is special? I would say yes, very comparable with my wifes D500/D600 |
| 12:50.41 | XorA | Bish: when it has the speaker thingy plugged in |
| 12:51.12 | XorA | Stephmw: what do you do? |
| 12:51.42 | Bish | great ;) ... |
| 12:52.04 | Stephmw | XorA: J2ME/C embedded api development |
| 12:52.08 | jeddy3_ | are we talking about audio quality with headphones or builtin speakers? |
| 12:52.15 | Bish | builtin speakers |
| 12:52.21 | XorA | Stephmw: it has the J letter in it, no-one wants that :-) |
| 12:52.22 | CM | Stephmw: Sounds pretty nice, why quitting? |
| 12:52.45 | Stephmw | CM: burnout |
| 12:52.55 | CM | XorA: Try something with APL and VBA in it and you'll have something that truly sucks.. :P |
| 12:53.11 | XorA | CM: been forced to do VBA before |
| 12:53.18 | jeddy3_ | Bish, ok |
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| 12:54.37 | Stephmw | CM: I've gotten to the stage that I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for me to be working where I do. I've ceased to care about even the most important errors. |
| 12:54.59 | CM | Stephmw: I know the feeling.. Sucks. Definitely time for a break |
| 12:57.15 | XorA | Stephmw: harsh |
| 12:57.24 | XorA | Stephmw: but Ive reached that position in jobs before |
| 12:58.42 | Stephmw | XorA: aye, I realised what it was about a month ago... one of those bugs blocking a megabucks deal arrived in my inbox and I just didn't give a shit |
| 12:58.54 | Stephmw | XorA: after a good think I realised that wasn't right |
| 12:58.59 | Pander | I also was forced to work with crappy development environments and programming languages but sometimes there is no way of having (especially a big organisation) of seeing the things like VBA is bad for you health ;) |
| 12:59.14 | CM | XorA: This is actual APL code, taken here at my work: http://www.acc.umu.se/~cm/apl2.png |
| 12:59.25 | ewon | APL!? |
| 12:59.28 | CM | It's a true pain to read.. The sooner it dies the better |
| 12:59.36 | XorA | CM: Access has been blocked because: |
| 12:59.45 | XorA | Prohibited by URL database (Pornography-Adult) |
| 12:59.48 | XorA | :-D |
| 12:59.57 | ewon | sorry... but APL? |
| 13:00.03 | guaqua | :D :D :D |
| 13:00.03 | ewon | who the hell uses APL? |
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| 13:00.24 | guaqua | university blocked as porn :D |
| 13:00.34 | guaqua | hilarious |
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| 13:01.19 | XorA | holy crap, what is that freaky language |
| 13:01.32 | CM | XorA: It doesn't even use ascii chars |
| 13:04.40 | ewon | CM: are you a mainframe programmer or something? |
| 13:04.49 | CM | SpeedEvil: If you get this job you'll be able to work on it forever: http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39800 |
| 13:04.50 | ewon | or working for someobscure defence contractor? |
| 13:05.22 | CM | ewon: Actually I'm a consultant, working at Volvo on a crazy assignment |
| 13:05.52 | ewon | CM: madness... APL? |
| 13:05.55 | ewon | do you use it for its parallel nature? |
| 13:06.01 | ewon | or simple inertia? |
| 13:06.07 | CM | They use Excel with VBA, and an APL mainfraim as backend |
| 13:06.15 | CM | It's pure madness |
| 13:06.27 | Bish | :> |
| 13:06.34 | CM | But all production and planning depends on it, and they pay quite well |
| 13:06.38 | ewon | o0 |
| 13:06.44 | Bish | madness? spartaaaaaa ! |
| 13:06.57 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[User:Iztok.jeras]] [[Wishlist:Finger_based_Ebook_Reader]] |
| 13:07.11 | CM | They don't even use a database, but some ancient ShareFile filesystem |
| 13:08.41 | ewon | inertia is truly a terrible thing |
| 13:09.03 | CM | ewon: Surely, and the unwillingness to pay for new systems |
| 13:09.20 | CM | Even if the old ones are waisting the time of hundreds of people |
| 13:09.27 | ewon | beancounters are probably of the opinion of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" |
| 13:09.49 | ewon | clearly, the beancounters need to be rounded up and catapulted into the ocean |
| 13:09.55 | CM | There's files in there not modified since 1982 |
| 13:10.02 | ewon | I was *born* in 1982 |
| 13:10.16 | CM | I was 3 at least.. ;) |
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| 13:22.55 | Stephmw | meing godt. Selling 200mw lasers is irresponsible... http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1997 |
| 13:23.04 | Stephmw | let's bolt 2 onto a neo |
| 13:23.13 | Bish | lol |
| 13:23.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03mickey * r2069 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (5 files): openmoko-dialer: PIN request done |
| 13:24.00 | Bish | lasers suck :/ |
| 13:25.28 | ewon | Bish: ? |
| 13:25.46 | guaqua | "Cuts thin plastic (tested with thin plastic bags)" |
| 13:25.51 | Bish | lol |
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| 13:27.46 | baird | Stephmw: you'll find a 200mW laser inside most DVD burners. (they've just been made 'intrinsically safe') |
| 13:28.38 | Stephmw | baird: right - it's the ready availability of the handheld variaty I find irresponsible |
| 13:28.47 | baird | http://www.felesmagus.com/pages/lasers-howto.html |
| 13:28.48 | Stephmw | baird: at that power anyways |
| 13:30.30 | baird | Stephmw: don't worry, the people selling them are doing it for the very gross profit (for something most of us could make for free from parts off the floor..) |
| 13:33.16 | baird | Apparently a lot of the 5mW laser pointers can be modded (removing a resistor) to do full power as well.. |
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| 13:47.33 | LetoTo | /bin/sh: line 1: ./setup-env: No such file or directory |
| 13:47.34 | LetoTo | make: *** [setup-qemu] Error 1 |
| 13:47.38 | LetoTo | anyone seen that before? |
| 13:47.50 | SpeedEvil | ls -l /bin/sh |
| 13:48.02 | LetoTo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.12 | SpeedEvil | Prolly not that then. |
| 13:48.18 | LetoTo | no :) |
| 13:48.45 | SpeedEvil | And my bad - that'd have given 'bad interpreter'. |
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| 13:52.53 | Fletch_work | counter |
| 13:52.53 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 60%) P1: 4 days 11:03:42 (4.461 +-4.5 days) (1255;212) |
| 13:54.02 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03mickey * r2070 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/libmokogsmd/ (moko-gsmd-connection.c moko-gsmd-connection.h): libmokogsmd: add sending PIN |
| 13:54.10 | guaqua | what do you think, might these work with neo? http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.148 |
| 13:56.23 | roh | guaqua as far as i can see all the products on that page should work with a moko |
| 13:56.42 | Bish | sure guaqua .. but someone has to code the software 4 it |
| 13:57.27 | guaqua | i have no idea how bluetooth stuff works, that's why i'm asking :) |
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| 13:57.54 | mjr | headsets are pretty standard issue, should work with generic drivers I think |
| 13:57.56 | roh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:58.01 | roh | yep |
| 13:58.08 | mjr | at least almost all dongles work |
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| 13:58.24 | mjr | and the "almost" is there to accomodate dongles I haven't heard of |
| 13:59.44 | guaqua | there was also the headphone-style one. is it possible to get stereo sound out of the neo bluetooth? |
| 13:59.53 | XorA | A2DP |
| 14:00.22 | guaqua | yes |
| 14:00.27 | guaqua | so it can be done? |
| 14:00.35 | XorA | guaqua: yes, thats already in OE |
| 14:00.38 | Bish | guaqua: listen, yes :P |
| 14:00.51 | guaqua | Bish: that wasn't a yes, it was just a term |
| 14:01.34 | XorA | more fun is to turn Neo into a headset hacking system |
| 14:01.45 | XorA | "I am the voice inside your head....." |
| 14:01.48 | guaqua | :D |
| 14:02.02 | guaqua | also sending other disturbing messages over bluetooth |
| 14:02.05 | mjr | "Hello John, God here..." |
| 14:02.29 | guaqua | the random goatse and...well...you know... |
| 14:02.37 | mjr | "Yes, to the nearest mobile store, and ask for a Neo one-nine-seven-three, that's right" |
| 14:02.45 | DukeOfURL | God: m or f? |
| 14:02.52 | XorA | goatse tooth :-) |
| 14:03.55 | Bish | lol |
| 14:04.29 | Bish | he said jehova |
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| 14:20.10 | Bish | i still dont get it.. is p1+ the final hardware version? |
| 14:21.07 | guaqua | would this work as the audio adapter to get 3.5mm standard jack output stereo? http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.733 |
| 14:21.33 | Bish | sure man |
| 14:21.34 | Bish | why not? |
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| 14:22.32 | guaqua | Bish: for example if it's not wired right |
| 14:22.56 | Bish | ... |
| 14:23.47 | guaqua | you can give me ... all you want as long as you are not the paying for the uncompatible adapter |
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| 14:27.06 | guaqua | Bish: also, it's down to luck if the 4 ring setup in neo will match the one in that adapter |
| 14:28.48 | Bish | if not .. u have to buy xD 2,5 mm headphone |
| 14:29.20 | guaqua | or a 2.5 jack and rig up something |
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| 14:32.15 | cheesy | 3,5 would be better for me too |
| 14:32.47 | cheesy | i have an adapter and it only works mono |
| 14:33.10 | cheesy | so guaqua's question is a good one :) |
| 14:33.45 | Bish | yeah for me too, but it doesnt matter xD |
| 14:33.52 | cheesy | but I don't have a neo YET |
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| 14:34.10 | Bish | 2,5 only supports mono oO? |
| 14:34.21 | Bish | thats bad |
| 14:34.53 | guaqua | it's a 4 ring connector so it should support stereo |
| 14:35.03 | Bish | ah cool |
| 14:35.23 | guaqua | but it's also a special connector so an adapter would be cool |
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| 14:36.29 | Bish | i dont get it why did they chose 2,5? |
| 14:36.36 | kslater | there is a new standard for 4 connector 2.5mm plugs for new phones. should support mic + stereo out |
| 14:36.44 | Bish | choose* |
| 14:37.14 | Bish | cool kslater |
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| 14:39.03 | Stephmw | iirc there's something to do with being able to enforce sound limiting |
| 14:39.33 | Stephmw | I know some handsets won't recognise the earphones if the impedance doesn't match what it's expecting |
| 14:39.36 | Bish | but there will be a special headset 4 the neo .. or its standard for mobiles kslater |
| 14:39.39 | XorA | mic + stereo-out + call answer button |
| 14:40.00 | XorA | Bish: neo headset comes with phone, and isnt compatible with ones from HTC or Motorola |
| 14:40.15 | Bish | if it gets broken? |
| 14:40.22 | XorA | Bish: cry |
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| 14:40.29 | Bish | i cant buy a new one? |
| 14:40.39 | Bish | without buying a new neo xD |
| 14:40.46 | XorA | Bish: they havent even made the phones yet, I was kidding :-) |
| 14:40.55 | Bish | lolz |
| 14:41.13 | XorA | but I bought an adapter that the wiki said was compatible, but it is not |
| 14:41.22 | XorA | so information in wiki must be wrong |
| 14:41.27 | Bish | ah XorA .. just answer .. p1+ is the final version? |
| 14:41.46 | Bish | i still dont get it :P |
| 14:42.07 | guaqua | Bish: no-one knows |
| 14:42.25 | Bish | oh damn ! i need a openmoko mobile :p |
| 14:42.28 | guaqua | if you had read the wiki, you'd know as much as the rest of us |
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| 15:04.17 | don-o | counter |
| 15:04.17 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 60%) P1: 4 days 10:28:01 (4.436 +-4.4 days) (1256;212) |
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| 15:06.57 | aloril | (script) planet: Koen Kooi: When hosting turns evil http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/when-hosting-turns-evil |
| 15:10.02 | CM | Bish: About that audio jack. Paste from May 02 2007: |
| 15:10.02 | CM | 12:39 <CM> I'd like an L-shaped 2.5mm -> 3.5mm connector for the audio |
| 15:10.02 | CM | 12:44 <LaF0rge> we'll have an adapter, L shaped, but not right now. just nobody seems to have time to source them in quantities here yet ;) |
| 15:10.07 | CM | 12:44 <CM> Ah, nice. Thanks for the info |
| 15:10.52 | SuN | That's 2 unnecessary lines already! |
| 15:11.03 | CM | :P |
| 15:11.19 | jouston | 4 lines... |
| 15:12.07 | jouston | Looking for 2.5mm --> 3.5mm? |
| 15:12.08 | aloril | jouston: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 15:12.19 | guaqua | jouston: yes |
| 15:13.55 | jouston | Not really difficult, in China you can buy them almost every corner |
| 15:14.10 | guaqua | here not :) |
| 15:16.09 | jouston | http://pc-mobile.net/compaq.htm |
| 15:16.25 | jouston | one for $3.25. Not too bad. |
| 15:16.59 | XorA | you have to get the right 2.5mm -> 3.5mm |
| 15:17.01 | guaqua | it's a 4-ring connector in neo |
| 15:17.04 | don-o | i just noticed the neo1973_hardware page lists a Stylus |
| 15:17.06 | guaqua | that won't do |
| 15:17.08 | XorA | the wiring isnt any form of standard |
| 15:17.58 | don-o | does anyone use the stylus over a finger touch? |
| 15:18.07 | XorA | me |
| 15:18.12 | XorA | finger touch sucks ass |
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| 15:18.28 | don-o | dou. ive always despised stylii |
| 15:18.49 | poffy | finger touch > stylus |
| 15:18.56 | poffy | Better interface, in my opinion. |
| 15:19.19 | ynezz | faster |
| 15:19.24 | poffy | yar |
| 15:19.33 | guaqua | i hate having to get out the stylus if there's something straightforward i want to do |
| 15:19.55 | poffy | koen: It's not that difficult to remove them |
| 15:20.02 | jouston | Use force, luke |
| 15:20.10 | XorA | my thumb is about 1/4 the size of the neo screen, makes it kind of not very subtle |
| 15:20.35 | ynezz | so make it smaller |
| 15:20.50 | poffy | I can't wait till I get a Neo, and start working with it |
| 15:21.46 | poffy | Has anyone started working with a map/GPS app yet? |
| 15:22.08 | koen | like maemo-mapper? |
| 15:22.51 | poffy | I guess so |
| 15:22.55 | poffy | I've never seen that, before |
| 15:23.20 | poffy | I was thinking of using the Yahoo! maps dev interface |
| 15:23.42 | koen | heh |
| 15:23.51 | koen | yahoo only has sane coverage in the US |
| 15:24.22 | koen | and *newsflash*, there are people living outside of the US |
| 15:24.26 | poffy | :O |
| 15:24.28 | hrw | yahoo? someone use it? |
| 15:24.45 | poffy | I |
| 15:24.46 | XorA | koen: we are figments of the US imagination :-) |
| 15:24.49 | poffy | Impossible. |
| 15:24.57 | koen | hrw: only on flickr |
| 15:24.58 | hrw | koen: US is a city in Brazil? |
| 15:25.04 | XorA | koen: also anyone living outside US is a terrorist |
| 15:25.08 | koen | hrw: I wish |
| 15:25.24 | koen | if it was in brazil, chicks would weigh less than 200kg |
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| 15:31.26 | Stephmw | hey Tim |
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| 15:43.47 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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| 15:58.22 | TRIsoft | gtg, cu |
| 15:58.23 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r2071 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (dialer-window-incoming.c dialer-window-outgoing.c): |
| 15:58.23 | CIA-24 | openmoko: openmoko-dialer: |
| 15:58.23 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * add a journal entry for incoming calls |
| 15:58.23 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * cancel incoming call window if call is disconnected |
| 15:58.23 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * cancel outgoing window if call is rejected |
| 15:58.25 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * remove some unrequired code from dialer-window-outgoing.c |
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| 16:01.17 | thomasg__ | seems the dialer gets more and more usable |
| 16:01.36 | koen | as long as only o-hand people touch the code :) |
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| 16:12.37 | guaqua | are there specifications for knock and on hold services? |
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| 16:15.44 | dietricha | counter |
| 16:16.04 | dietricha | :o |
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| 16:19.16 | SpeedEvil | A week or so. Maybe a plutonian year, who knows. |
| 16:19.29 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 60%) P1: 4 days 09:50:31 (4.410 +-4.4 days) (1257;212) |
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| 16:21.04 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
| 16:22.12 | LetoTo | is there a stable "known to work" mokomakefile version? |
| 16:22.27 | LetoTo | one where i can just wget it, hit make qemu and wait? |
| 16:23.07 | Hopscotch | the one from two days ago was |
| 16:23.21 | LetoTo | you have a copy of that one? |
| 16:23.33 | Hopscotch | yeah, of course |
| 16:24.15 | Hopscotch | gimme an email address and you can have your copy |
| 16:24.37 | LetoTo | paul@xelerance.com |
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| 16:27.04 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
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| 16:38.40 | LetoTo | Hopscotch: thanks. Guess you got greylisted, so I'll first grab lunch :) |
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| 16:40.37 | LetoTo | ohh, make setup got added to the mokomakefile. that explains things |
| 16:41.21 | thomasg__ | gcc4 doesnt work? |
| 16:41.34 | roh | thomasg__ not for qemu |
| 16:42.12 | roh | thomasg__ qemu dynamic recompiler cannot cope with gcc4 yet. but thats an upstream problem |
| 16:42.28 | thomasg__ | k, thx |
| 16:43.06 | LetoTo | WARNING: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x |
| 16:43.06 | LetoTo | Looking for gcc 3.x |
| 16:43.06 | LetoTo | gcc 3.x not found! |
| 16:43.06 | LetoTo | QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x |
| 16:43.06 | LetoTo | It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU |
| 16:43.06 | LetoTo | To use this compiler anyway, configure with --disable-gcc-check |
| 16:43.09 | LetoTo | make: *** [setup-qemu] Error 1 |
| 16:43.27 | LetoTo | hmm might be tricky to get gcc3 on an FC6 machine |
| 16:44.31 | poffy | LetoTo: Try using a paste bin, next time |
| 16:45.38 | LetoTo | for 6 lines? |
| 16:45.55 | poffy | Yeah |
| 16:45.59 | LetoTo | kinda silly... |
| 16:46.02 | poffy | Not really |
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| 16:55.21 | LetoTo | Please wait, programming the NAND flash... |
| 16:55.22 | LetoTo | openmoko/flash.sh: line 88: 20266 Segmentation fault $qemu -mtdblock "$script_dir/$flash_image" -kernel "$script_dir/$1" -serial stdio -nographic -usb -monitor null 0<&0 |
| 16:55.34 | LetoTo | okay, i guess don't ignore the "use gcc3" advise :P |
| 16:55.55 | hypa7ia | :) |
| 16:56.08 | roh | its not really an advice. it just breaks since the binary which gcc4 generates is slightly different |
| 16:56.43 | roh | the dynamic recompiler chops small packages of compiled instructions in pieces and puzzles them together in runtime. |
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| 16:58.20 | LetoTo | !lunch |
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| 17:03.47 | buz | so our guess of s3c244X wasnt so bad |
| 17:07.04 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
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| 17:18.43 | PBeck | hi |
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| 17:21.48 | denis^da | How long does it normally take to execute the "make setup" of the Moko Makefile |
| 17:21.50 | denis^da | ? |
| 17:23.47 | thresh | years |
| 17:24.43 | denis^da | :) |
| 17:28.02 | CoreDump|home | !ombug 100 |
| 17:28.03 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 100, Status: NEW, Created: Unknown |
| 17:28.04 | cdbot2 | * * laforge(AT)openmoko.org: Implement Cell Broadcast support |
| 17:28.05 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=100 |
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| 17:30.45 | kaatis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:32.46 | Sufflope_ | counter |
| 17:32.47 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 60%) P1: 4 days 09:13:46 (4.385 +-4.4 days) (1258;212) |
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| 17:58.26 | fatman | Hello, I am Fat Man and I weigh 400 pounds! You can see video of my supreme fatness at www.fat-man.org |
| 18:01.00 | aloril2 | if we don't here any beep this week, then maybe June is more probable than May .. |
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| 18:01.49 | SpeedEvil | 400 pounds is not supreme fatnes. |
| 18:01.59 | SpeedEvil | Ok, it's fat, but not supremely fat. |
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| 18:04.47 | DukeOfURL | was it spam? |
| 18:04.56 | SpeedEvil | yes. |
| 18:05.28 | SpeedEvil | Spammed #defocus too |
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| 18:08.51 | tholin | maybe he was just a fat man who wanted to share his fatness. |
| 18:10.03 | Stephmw | he could easily do that on the tinterweb. oh, he did. |
| 18:10.53 | hrw | someone with gta01bv4 here? |
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| 18:12.29 | aevin | hrw: running into hw trouble? (i don't have any GTA01s, btw) |
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| 18:13.30 | hrw | rather want to ask someone with hardware |
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| 18:15.29 | koen | is it much work? |
| 18:15.35 | koen | and does it require booting it? |
| 18:17.55 | hrw | koen: I had problem with charge-boot-die loop |
| 18:18.11 | hrw | now updated to 2062 uboot and it looks like bv3 and bv4 works ok |
| 18:19.38 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973/de]] [[Talk:FAQ]] [[Wishlist:Camera]] |
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| 18:22.29 | hrw | cu |
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| 18:37.27 | pvanhoof | mickeyl, ping |
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| 18:46.37 | bmidgley | koen: do you have to use the dev board to fix uboot? |
| 18:47.08 | koen | yes, but a nand erase via uboot console would do the job as well I suspect |
| 18:49.01 | balrog-kun | uhm |
| 18:49.02 | balrog-kun | make sure you don't run out of battery or reset between erasing and downloading the new one |
| 18:49.02 | koen | right |
| 18:49.03 | koen | I'm going to reflash a rootfs first |
| 18:49.14 | balrog-kun | doesn't "nand write.e" handle the erasing automatically? |
| 18:49.15 | koen | if that works I don't really need a new uboot |
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| 18:49.48 | koen | balrog-kun: I get "NAND not erased before flashing" sympoms when flashing know-good rootfses |
| 18:50.32 | balrog-kun | i see.. |
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| 19:15.33 | zecke | anyone in need for a ticket to the LinuxTag? |
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| 19:17.14 | alphaone | zecke: Everyone seems to win two invitations :-) |
| 19:17.26 | zecke | ;) |
| 19:17.38 | LuitvD_ | what's linuxtag? |
| 19:17.58 | zecke | a secret organisation, operating in secret |
| 19:18.07 | zecke | alphaone: we could trade them? |
| 19:18.18 | alphaone | zecke: :-) |
| 19:19.11 | LuitvD_ | a ticket is only 11 euro... |
| 19:19.17 | LuitvD_ | that's not much... |
| 19:19.50 | LuitvD_ | the only problem is getting to berlin... |
| 19:19.51 | Elrond | Are there any plans on giving people some reward, if they get people to buy a neo? ;o) |
| 19:20.15 | LuitvD_ | Elrond: isn't the device enaugh of a reward? |
| 19:20.16 | buz | i thought linuxtag was being boycotted for some silly political reason |
| 19:21.05 | Elrond | LuitvD_ - Well, if I get someone _else_ to buy a neo... I could get something. ;o) |
| 19:21.14 | Elrond | <-- has no time for linuxtag. |
| 19:21.16 | LuitvD_ | ah, right :P |
| 19:21.31 | zecke | buz: right, but we boycott round robin |
| 19:21.31 | buz | lol |
| 19:21.53 | buz | i'll keep that in mind next time some silly activists wants me to do $stupidThing |
| 19:22.04 | buz | (usually pay money for $stupidCause) |
| 19:22.46 | Elrond | Ohh, there are really people boycotting linuxtag because of schaeuble? |
| 19:22.49 | zecke | hmm, I should try another strategy. |
| 19:23.02 | zecke | I have two LinuxTag tickets and I will sell two for the price of one? |
| 19:23.32 | alphaone | zecke: Just pick someone and enter their name and Mail address :-) |
| 19:23.42 | Elrond | *G* |
| 19:23.47 | LuitvD | buz: where $stupidCause = 10 * $ownersPayroll + 1 * $realCauseThoughStillStupid |
| 19:23.52 | zecke | alphaone: well, I'm passed that point |
| 19:24.01 | buz | LuitvD: something like that |
| 19:25.44 | LuitvD | lol, about that linuxTag ticket: the "Dauerausweis" sounds too much like the WWII's "Ausweise bitte!" :P |
| 19:26.27 | Elrond | Huh, strange comparison. |
| 19:26.54 | LuitvD | the word just makes me remember that 'sound' from a movie I guess... |
| 19:27.18 | LuitvD | a movie about WWII (one of the million available... so many choices) |
| 19:28.26 | buz | just because its german doesnt mean its ww2 |
| 19:28.45 | buz | i mean dutch arent necessarily stoned either |
| 19:29.14 | Elrond | *g* |
| 19:29.17 | buz | ~lart toshiba |
| 19:29.17 | apt | declares toshiba a moron |
| 19:29.27 | buz | evil would seem like a better fit |
| 19:30.16 | LuitvD | buz: no, but everyone in the world's first impression of the dutch is "drugs and hookers", so is our dutch response to german language being ww2-ish that strange? :P |
| 19:30.37 | LuitvD | apt: now already? |
| 19:31.21 | LuitvD | s/apt/buz/ |
| 19:31.52 | buz | tell me about it, with swiss it's one of banks, cheese or watches |
| 19:32.13 | LuitvD | yeah |
| 19:32.14 | LuitvD | sure |
| 19:32.18 | LuitvD | and CERN ofcourse |
| 19:32.20 | buz | never mind that almost all of our cheese isnt fit for human consumption |
| 19:32.42 | buz | and we have our share of drugs, too |
| 19:33.07 | LuitvD | I'd say CERN, banks, watches and victorinox :) |
| 19:33.11 | keesj | we as in Swiss people? |
| 19:33.54 | buz | keesj: yes, drug laws are quite liberal |
| 19:34.02 | buz | CERN is for geeks only ;) |
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| 19:34.28 | buz | and technically, pharma is probably more important than banking |
| 19:34.35 | LuitvD | 'die schweiz' might have liberal drug laws, but the netherlands is famous because of it's 'gedoogbeleid' :P |
| 19:35.04 | LuitvD | CERN is cool :P |
| 19:35.40 | buz | you dont say |
| 19:37.31 | keesj | and les horibles cernettes! |
| 19:38.33 | guaqua | cernettes...that's a known term too? :D |
| 19:38.48 | buz | i doubt there's many of them |
| 19:39.32 | buz | (close to none if eth is any indication for cern) |
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| 19:40.46 | keesj | but we are really off topic |
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| 20:01.11 | don-o | counter go faster. |
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| 20:20.03 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03roh * r2072 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/gta01-power_control.patch: |
| 20:20.03 | CIA-24 | openmoko: fix for setting up the gps 1.5V correctly on gta01bv03/04 |
| 20:20.03 | CIA-24 | openmoko: is PCF50606_REGULATOR_D2REG should be PCF50606_REGULATOR_DCD |
| 20:20.03 | CIA-24 | openmoko: thanks to sean_c |
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| 20:20.39 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Bluetooth_Support]] |
| 20:30.22 | roh | can someone please test the last patch on a bv3 or bv4? i only have a bv2 here *sigh* |
| 20:30.39 | LetoTo | "only"? :P |
| 20:30.46 | LetoTo | are we supposed to feel sorry for you :P |
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| 20:36.02 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03andrew * r2073 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/openmoko/ (Makefile env flash.sh): Use an overlay flash image by default. |
| 20:36.09 | alphaone | roh: I'm currently building a new kernel :-) |
| 20:36.18 | roh | alphaone :) |
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| 20:54.31 | alphaone | roh: it compiles and boots. |
| 20:54.53 | alphaone | roh: (How) can I test gps? |
| 20:54.55 | roh | thats a good sign for me ;) |
| 20:55.32 | roh | alphaone with that gllin stuff which is flying around. i do not have it myself |
| 20:58.22 | Elrond | alphaone - I plan to write some gps test tools, when my buildenv is going. |
| 20:59.09 | alphaone | Elrond: Great. |
| 20:59.26 | CM | Elrond: What buildenv? |
| 20:59.49 | Elrond | CM - The mokomakefile based one... |
| 20:59.58 | Elrond | NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (3022/4339) [69 %] |
| 21:00.00 | CM | Elrond: btw, like the dude yesterday writing Erlond all the time :D |
| 21:00.02 | Elrond | ... and going. ;o) |
| 21:00.04 | alphaone | I copied gllin back onto this image, but it segfaults. Seems I missed copying something |
| 21:00.14 | CM | Heh, I never get it to finish a build.. |
| 21:00.19 | CM | Failed on kdrive last time |
| 21:01.09 | Elrond | Huh, didn't notice the guy misspelling my name... |
| 21:02.13 | roh | alphaone gllin is oabi only afaik |
| 21:02.18 | Elrond | BTW: Any idea on the unit of /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-0/0-0008/chgcur ? |
| 21:03.10 | koen | Elrond: iirc mA |
| 21:03.18 | alphaone | roh: Well, I did all the testing I can think of. If you want me to test something else, go ahead. |
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| 21:03.49 | roh | alphaone i dunno.. thanks for now |
| 21:03.54 | alphaone | np |
| 21:03.57 | Elrond | koen - I usually have values >1000. You want to tell me, it's doing one ampere in there? |
| 21:04.08 | koen | I don't think so... |
| 21:04.09 | roh | atleast i didn't break svn %-) |
| 21:04.34 | alphaone | ;-) |
| 21:05.01 | Elrond | koen - Sometimes I have >2000 even. |
| 21:05.22 | Elrond | Now it's 746. |
| 21:07.50 | balrog-kun | "chgcur" is not a HWMON compliant name so it doesn't have to be in miliamperes |
| 21:08.08 | roh | so.. gtg... the bar calls |
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| 21:14.40 | CM | Elrond: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel#Battery_charging_current says it's milliamperes |
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| 21:19.18 | Elrond | CM - yuck... 2 Amps... into the battery... I have no idea, what is good for it, but sounds like a whole lot. |
| 21:19.33 | Elrond | ... not to mention I have no idea, where this toy gets the energy for that. |
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| 21:21.26 | Elrond | Wait... 1 A at say 4 V... that's 4W, right? |
| 21:21.38 | Elrond | That can't be... not to mention, that the battery would be hot. |
| 21:21.42 | CM | Elrond: It's the chargin current, so it means it's plugged in, right? |
| 21:21.54 | CM | If it's not plugged in, it should be 0. |
| 21:22.11 | CM | And if it's usb, you can only get 5v 0.5A so 2.5W |
| 21:22.28 | Elrond | CM - Exactly. |
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| 21:51.12 | alphaone | good night everyone |
| 21:51.27 | Elrond | alphaone - Good night. |
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| 21:57.44 | LuitvD | how do I peacefully interrupt the mokomakefile? :P |
| 21:57.44 | LuitvD | anyone? |
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| 21:57.45 | LuitvD | just CTRL + C? |
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| 22:08.49 | bmidgley_ | anyone tinkered with the wolfson codec? |
| 22:09.28 | LuitvD | what do ya mean 'tinkered' ? |
| 22:09.43 | bmidgley_ | I'm trying to tell it to route audio to bluetooth |
| 22:10.02 | bmidgley_ | or actually to tell it to quit routing audio everywhere else since bluetooth path is always on |
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| 22:20.39 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Bluetooth_Support]] [[Talk:Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Buying_Interest_List]] |
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| 22:25.18 | mrcucumber | 'ello |
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| 23:13.26 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03andrew * r2074 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/hw/ (8 files): Don't assume "savevm" is followed by poweroff and "loadvm" follows a cold start. |
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