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| 00:44.13 | neostrider | hello folks |
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| 01:06.50 | balrog-kun | so, it turns out all of the TomTom GO series also have accelerometers |
| 01:07.54 | neostrider | I'm having problems with mokomake |
| 01:07.58 | neostrider | anyone can help me? |
| 01:13.04 | balrog-kun | oh well, not all, only the GO, GO500 and GO700 |
| 01:13.18 | neostrider | ?? |
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| 01:30.59 | neostrider | koen? |
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| 01:59.33 | LaF0rge | re |
| 02:00.27 | neostrider | hey |
| 02:01.17 | roh | morning |
| 02:01.53 | neostrider | its 23 PM here hehe |
| 02:02.46 | roh | 1002 here |
| 02:03.41 | neostrider | hey..im having some issues with mokomakefile |
| 02:03.45 | neostrider | can you helpme? |
| 02:04.33 | balrog-kun | good night |
| 02:05.49 | neostrider | good night |
| 02:06.35 | overseer | counter? |
| 02:06.43 | overseer | ,counter |
| 02:10.08 | aloril | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-May/005241.html source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 4 days 09:50:11 (11.410 +-5.0 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-26); 4 months (123.410 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (1192;206) |
| 02:16.44 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Neo1973]] [[Bootloader]] |
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| 03:01.18 | aloril | counter_msg http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) |
| 03:01.18 | aloril | aloril changed counter prefix message to http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) |
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| 05:45.37 | kelly_ | hello guys |
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| 06:25.09 | kelly_ | anybody know who to talk to about purchasing? |
| 06:25.33 | happycube | keep an eye on the wiki |
| 06:25.47 | happycube | the first production run got pushed back a couple of weeks due to parts |
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| 06:27.23 | CM | kelly_: Sign up to the announce mailinglist, or keep watching openmoko.com :) |
| 06:27.34 | kelly_ | do you know any dates or rough estimates? is there any developer versions? |
| 06:27.50 | CM | faq |
| 06:27.50 | aloril | See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ |
| 06:28.58 | CM | The really early devs have their phones already, and for free. Others wanting to start developing early will be able to buy one for 350 USD in maybe 2-3 weeks |
| 06:29.19 | CM | counter |
| 06:29.20 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 4 days 05:30:53 (11.230 +-5.0 days) (1193;206) |
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| 06:33.25 | kelly_ | ok thanks guys. do you know if there will be bulk discounts? |
| 06:34.10 | happycube | nope |
| 06:35.04 | kelly_ | nope there wont be or nope u dont know? |
| 06:35.32 | CM | Haven't heard any and I doubt it |
| 06:35.48 | CM | They won't make that many phones in these first batches |
| 06:36.34 | CM | But Sean has said there's some kind of discount on buying the officially released phone if you already have bought a dev-phone |
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| 06:40.24 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 06:41.35 | kelly_ | ok |
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| 07:07.18 | Rakshasa | mornin |
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| 07:07.36 | TRIsoft | morning |
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| 07:24.50 | T1 | is there a known fix for |
| 07:24.52 | T1 | | arm-linux-gcc -g -Os -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -ffixed-r8 -msoft-float -D__KERNEL__ -DTEXT_BASE=0x33F80000 -I/home/tv/src/moko/build/tmp/work/armv4t-linux/uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r7_a7676ea7732f3c596805079fed7e5c9fac652cfc_0_1949/git/include -fno-builtin -ffreestanding -nostdinc -isystem /home/tv/src/moko/build/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/4.1.1/include -pipe -DCONFIG_ARM -D__ARM__ -march=armv4 -mabi=apcs-gnu -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes |
| 07:24.52 | T1 | | cmd_mfsl.c:32:21: error: asm/asm.h: No such file or directory |
| 07:25.00 | T1 | bah my nick has been stolen again |
| 07:27.07 | CM | T1: Yes, you're on Gentoo arent't you? |
| 07:27.13 | T1 | ubuntu |
| 07:27.17 | CM | Hmm.. |
| 07:27.25 | T1 | let me hear it anyway ;) |
| 07:27.46 | CM | I had that missing asm.h file because of some lib path changes.. |
| 07:27.56 | CM | Trying to remember.. Wait a sec |
| 07:28.02 | Tv | ah, that's better |
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| 07:28.23 | Tv | i wish freenode let me prevent others from using my registered nickname |
| 07:30.34 | Tv | nothing on the mailing list :( |
| 07:30.34 | CM | Tv: Yes, at least until it expires |
| 07:30.47 | CM | I can't find it either.. |
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| 07:31.10 | Tv | and google isn't helping either |
| 07:31.26 | Tv | it looks like a version mismatch between openmoko's uboot and the kernel |
| 07:31.51 | CM | Hmm.. Ahh.. I remembered wrong. Was asm/page.h that was missing for me |
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| 07:34.52 | Tv | sparq: it's still three plus tab ;) |
| 07:36.37 | sparq | I know... but I feel all... *indented* talking with you folks |
| 07:38.16 | CM | sparq: Well, stefan_schmidt always "sticks out" ;) |
| 07:38.29 | CM | Or maybe it's "stand out" in proper english.. |
| 07:39.16 | sparq | CM: could be either |
| 07:40.09 | Tv | http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=559 |
| 07:40.14 | Tv | that's what i'm seeing |
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| 08:15.49 | ynezz | just buying some IT books on Amazon, any suggestion for worth buying book? |
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| 08:25.31 | Tv | it seems one can just remove that #include <asm/asm.h> line |
| 08:26.16 | XorA | good news, the official Neo1973 carry case will fit 2 neos :-) |
| 08:29.46 | hrw | XorA: ? |
| 08:30.05 | XorA | hrw: my bv3 and bv4 both fit in same case |
| 08:30.26 | XorA | hrw: did you not get the Neoprene case? |
| 08:30.53 | hrw | XorA: ah.. that one |
| 08:30.58 | hrw | XorA: I keep debugboard in it |
| 08:31.20 | XorA | hrw: Ive got a debug v1 at work so I dont have to carry them around |
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| 08:41.45 | hrw | XorA: I do not carry around debugboard. I do not like cases like that neoprene one |
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| 09:34.06 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03laforge * r1961 10/trunk/src/target/u-boot/patches/uboot-20070516-mfsl.patch: fix upstream compile error in cmd_mfsl.c (header file is gone) |
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| 09:39.07 | nnpiggy | counter |
| 09:39.08 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 4 days 02:21:05 (11.098 +-5.0 days) (1194;206) |
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| 09:47.16 | ynezz | neverending counter :) |
| 09:47.39 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1962 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-history.c: openmoko-dialer: check journal is available before accessing it |
| 09:52.55 | aloril | ynezz: it just predicts when next announcement/status update is going to happen ;-) |
| 09:54.55 | ynezz | ok :) |
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| 10:02.18 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1963 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-history.c: openmoko-dialer: fix logic |
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| 10:18.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Main_Page/ru]] |
| 10:30.13 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1964 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/ (ChangeLog src/gsmd/gsmd.c): gsmd: power off the phone when gsmd starts up to have a consistent starting point |
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| 10:40.37 | Tv | oh wow running via qemu is sloooow |
| 10:41.04 | admin_ | hello, I attempted to compile openmoko on my pc, linux, I've compiled it, but I'm not sure how to run it, I try: arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm -M neo -m 130 -mtdblock openmoko/openmoko-flash.image -kernel openmoko/openmoko-kernel.bin -usb -show-cursor |
| 10:41.16 | admin_ | but that just leaves QEMU with a black screen, doing nothing |
| 10:41.30 | Tv | admin_: perhaps try MokoMakefile? |
| 10:41.36 | admin_ | Tv: hmm, ok |
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| 10:43.29 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1965 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/openmoko-libs/ (ChangeLog libmokogsmd/moko-gsmd-connection.c): * libmokogsmd/moko-gsmd-connection.c: (moko_gsmd_connection_voice_dial): Fix logic |
| 10:43.43 | balrog-kun | qemu built from MokoMakefile seem to be broken |
| 10:44.05 | balrog-kun | exactly with this same symptoms, it starts in [Stopped] state |
| 10:44.20 | balrog-kun | but not using MokoMakefile it is working for me |
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| 10:45.57 | Tv | balrog-kun: works for me |
| 10:46.04 | Tv | mokomakefile into qemu that is |
| 10:46.30 | Tv | i had to fix two build problems in uboot and mtpaint |
| 10:46.44 | balrog-kun | Tv: is your qemu built from MokoMakefile too? |
| 10:46.45 | Tv | yes |
| 10:46.53 | Tv | started with make run-qemu-snapshot |
| 10:47.00 | balrog-kun | oh, hmm, then it's not a MokoMakefile problem |
| 10:47.07 | balrog-kun | as i was hoping :p |
| 10:47.28 | Tv | hehe entering shell commands by clicking mouse on virtual kbd |
| 10:47.30 | Tv | so indirect |
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| 10:48.14 | balrog-kun | Tv: may i know when you built it? |
| 10:48.20 | Tv | just now |
| 10:48.25 | balrog-kun | ah |
| 10:49.03 | balrog-kun | damn, it's also working for me on all computers that i've tried, but i hear that several people had problems running it |
| 10:54.19 | balrog-kun | the HXD8 - whatever it is - has a light sensor :-) |
| 10:54.39 | admin_ | gah this sucks |
| 10:54.48 | admin_ | qemu just open with black screen @ 99% cpu |
| 10:54.49 | admin_ | :P |
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| 10:58.11 | admin_ | I did it a long time ago, couple months ago with the old way |
| 10:58.16 | admin_ | that worked |
| 10:58.57 | Tv | apart from two build problems, i had no trouble using mokomakefile |
| 10:59.20 | balrog-kun | admin_: well, if you make a svn checkout from last week it will work |
| 10:59.27 | admin_ | well it was svn |
| 10:59.33 | admin_ | so I would think it was the latest |
| 10:59.43 | balrog-kun | admin_: that's why |
| 10:59.48 | admin_ | hmm |
| 10:59.58 | admin_ | how do I get it from lst week, what svn # would that be |
| 11:00.36 | balrog-kun | maybe MokoMakefile shouldn't always use HEAD |
| 11:00.49 | balrog-kun | maybe it should get some known-working versions |
| 11:01.09 | admin_ | o_o |
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| 11:04.56 | balrog-kun | gmm Fiwin makes WM8xxx chips too? o_O |
| 11:05.11 | sannes_ | counter |
| 11:05.11 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 4 days 00:55:02 (11.038 +-5.0 days) (1195;206) |
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| 11:05.39 | balrog-kun | ah, it says driver, not chip :p |
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| 11:11.25 | Mukunda | Geez... Neo1973 is still not available... |
| 11:11.37 | XorA | Mukunda: 2 weeks |
| 11:11.51 | LittleIdiot | did you sincerely expect anything today? ;) |
| 11:11.51 | Mukunda | XorA: they're fairly certain now? |
| 11:12.05 | Mukunda | I was expecting something 5-6 days ago. :-) |
| 11:12.18 | XorA | Mukunda: they start making them on May 24th or there abouts |
| 11:12.33 | XorA | Mukunda: there were some last minute technical hitches there is an email |
| 11:12.45 | Mukunda | Ah alright. :-) |
| 11:12.53 | Mukunda | I dare not sign up to another mailing list... |
| 11:13.02 | Mukunda | The time it takes reading emails already... |
| 11:13.30 | XorA | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-May/005241.html |
| 11:13.57 | Mukunda | Danke. |
| 11:14.19 | Mukunda | Any news on how much the discount on P1+ will be for P1 purchasers? |
| 11:15.35 | Mukunda | I guess that it's very unlikely there will be a nice 0 dead pixel policy right? |
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| 11:17.04 | Mukunda | Erm sorry, the discount is for p1 purchasers getting p2 phones right? |
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| 11:17.26 | pH5 | Mukunda: I haven't head of anyone with a dead pixel yet, maybe they're just too small to identify :) |
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| 11:18.23 | Mukunda | That'd be true, that screen is awesome. |
| 11:20.49 | XorA | and the screen is really colourful, not washed put like some handhelds |
| 11:20.58 | Mukunda | That's neat... Well hmm looking forward to release, was just looking at an ipaq, but it was the same price as the neo with only a crappy qvga screen... Hopefully it's going to be available soon. |
| 11:21.34 | Mukunda | Ermm wow... Some talk about graphics acceleration in some of the emails... That's pretty amazing, if unneeded. |
| 11:21.53 | XorA | Mukunda: its needed :-D |
| 11:21.57 | Mukunda | Or would that be just 2D for video? |
| 11:22.12 | XorA | Mukunda: yeah, bitblt and friends |
| 11:22.22 | Mukunda | Ahh okay.. :-) |
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| 11:31.16 | sixfeet | hi |
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| 11:42.27 | Tv | IIRC the current neo display is physically unable to refresh fast enough for video |
| 11:42.36 | Tv | but that's just rumourmongering |
| 11:42.56 | koen | s/display/framebuffer/ |
| 11:43.04 | Tv | well yeah |
| 11:43.17 | Tv | the essential point being "you can't fix that in software" |
| 11:43.27 | CoreDump|afk | wish is a damn shame if true.....such a lovely dispo |
| 11:43.36 | CoreDump|afk | display |
| 11:43.51 | Tv | a later rev might have an even better one ;) |
| 11:44.04 | Tv | personally, i don't need video |
| 11:44.10 | koen | just don't do fullscreen updates |
| 11:44.21 | koen | or only transfer 12bits per pixel |
| 11:45.53 | Tv | 12 bits aka 4096 colors? |
| 11:46.00 | Tv | that's plenty |
| 11:47.35 | Tv | so you can fix it in software ;) |
| 11:47.35 | CoreDump|afk | still a shame |
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| 12:03.48 | pavelm | Hello, everyone. |
| 12:03.51 | pavelm | Is ph5 nearby? |
| 12:04.04 | pH5 | pavelm: very |
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| 12:04.41 | pavelm | ph5: Thanks for hammerhead logs. Is it okay to link to http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp from the wiki? |
| 12:04.43 | SpeedEvil | Tv: It can do video |
| 12:04.54 | Tv | SpeedEvil: the 12-bit trick? |
| 12:05.03 | SpeedEvil | The issue is that the framerate isn't tehre on CPU decoded video at 640x480 |
| 12:05.12 | SpeedEvil | However, the LCD can do a half resolution mode |
| 12:05.15 | SpeedEvil | and the CPU can do that |
| 12:05.50 | SpeedEvil | No, the LCD has a special bus to the CPU, and always refreshes at 60Hz |
| 12:06.12 | pH5 | pavelm: But SpeedEvil already added a link to the logs. |
| 12:06.48 | SpeedEvil | Oops. Just noticed it's just text, not actually a link. |
| 12:06.53 | SpeedEvil | I forgot the [] |
| 12:07.57 | pavelm | ph5: Aha, I did not notice that. |
| 12:08.39 | pavelm | ph5: Next question: could you capture the logs in the "original" format (same as http://www.maintech.de/download/hammerhead-strace.log) so that same scripts can be used for decoding? |
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| 12:10.41 | pH5 | pavelm: if somebody tells me how to do it, sure. i used "strace -e open,read,write -e read=3 -e write=3" |
| 12:10.59 | pH5 | s/-e open/-e trace=open/ |
| 12:11.21 | pavelm | ph5; will do some experiments :-) |
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| 12:11.59 | ar1 | /nic arw_hal9000 |
| 12:12.18 | ar1 | :) |
| 12:12.20 | SpeedEvil | apt: capturing all the strace is nice. |
| 12:12.26 | apt | SpeedEvil: okay |
| 12:12.28 | SpeedEvil | As you get for example gettimebyday) |
| 12:12.45 | arw_hal9000 | hello |
| 12:12.46 | SpeedEvil | and -s9999 so it doesn't crop the ends of stuff |
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| 12:13.10 | koen | apt: capturing all the strace? |
| 12:13.11 | apt | well, capturing all the strace is nice. |
| 12:13.18 | SpeedEvil | Plus, it gets the writes to the NMEA file |
| 12:13.55 | pH5 | SpeedEvil: what would you need the gettimeofday/select calls for? |
| 12:14.04 | pH5 | -x -s9999 seems like a very good idea though |
| 12:14.06 | SpeedEvil | To tell you the time |
| 12:14.16 | pH5 | I'd rather use -tt for that |
| 12:14.19 | SpeedEvil | Relative time between calls |
| 12:14.25 | SpeedEvil | oh - true |
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| 12:14.55 | SpeedEvil | Though you might want to know when the gll binary cares about time |
| 12:15.16 | SpeedEvil | grep trivially removes all but reads if you don't need it. |
| 12:15.39 | pavelm | ph5: -x -s9999 looks close |
| 12:15.56 | pavelm | ph5: plus something to prepend pid, AFAICT, but I'm not sure if we want that. |
| 12:16.03 | SpeedEvil | -xx may be easier to machine part |
| 12:16.06 | SpeedEvil | parse |
| 12:16.24 | Magon | pavelm: -f ? |
| 12:17.01 | pavelm | speed: Just do -x. It is same as original log, and all messages between gps and gll are binary, anyway. |
| 12:17.20 | koen | SpeedEvil: you are a native english speaker, right? |
| 12:17.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Current_events]] |
| 12:17.34 | SpeedEvil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.44 | pavelm | ph5: did you succeed in making your software talk to GPS? |
| 12:17.48 | koen | could you fix up the hammerhead wiki wrt send/sent? |
| 12:17.55 | Magon | so you are one of few here probably |
| 12:17.58 | pH5 | ok, so "-tt -x -s9999" it is. I'll drop the -e params |
| 12:18.38 | pH5 | pavelm: not with Bv3. |
| 12:18.38 | SpeedEvil | koen: I'll do it tonight - I need to work on getting my PCB autorouted, and rather than actually doing it manually, I'm hacking on the autorouter :) |
| 12:19.20 | Magon | SpeedEvil: which router? |
| 12:19.34 | Magon | i have to decide which one to learn... |
| 12:20.35 | SpeedEvil | Magon 'pcb' |
| 12:20.42 | SpeedEvil | on sourceforge |
| 12:20.53 | Magon | ok |
| 12:21.12 | SpeedEvil | I'm trying to add the ability to specify in the netlist 'foo-power' as a name, and it'll use the power style for net foo |
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| 12:21.24 | alphaone | Does anyone know a good open CAD/PCB suite? |
| 12:22.03 | Magon | alphaone: same problem here..looking for one |
| 12:22.07 | SpeedEvil | I diddn't find 'pcb' to be too bad - I entered a complete 300 hole eurocard in about a day, and got a board which would have worked |
| 12:22.22 | SpeedEvil | It's just I'm trying for an optimal board. |
| 12:23.02 | alphaone | SpeedEvil: I'm thinking of schematics editor/board layouter and optionally autorouter. |
| 12:23.17 | SpeedEvil | This is just a PCB editor which takes netlists in |
| 12:23.20 | Magon | is it part of gEDA? |
| 12:23.21 | SpeedEvil | No |
| 12:27.04 | Magon | SpeedEvil: in what you draw layout? |
| 12:27.57 | pavelm | ph5: So it talks to Bv4? Congratulations :-) |
| 12:28.48 | SpeedEvil | Magon: I was taking a printed schematic, and going from that through vi to a netlist |
| 12:29.14 | pH5 | pavelm: yes, it does. actually I use it to properly reset the gps when gllin fails to do that. |
| 12:29.24 | Magon | SpeedEvil: so you dont draw layout but just make netlist? |
| 12:29.41 | SpeedEvil | Yes. |
| 12:29.45 | Magon | evil.... |
| 12:29.54 | SpeedEvil | You can import netlist from schematic drawing program of course |
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| 12:30.23 | Magon | i like to draw schematic and than export it to layout editor |
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| 12:37.26 | pavelm | Do I need some special commandline to gcc to produce compatible binaries? |
| 12:37.35 | pavelm | ...I thought I had it working before... |
| 12:38.33 | pavelm | ...yes, -static is neeeded. |
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| 12:50.51 | pavelm | ph5: Had you had any luck with power_sequence file? |
| 12:52.21 | pavelm | ph5: I guess that output of hhtest (in case it works) is _not_ single zero? |
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| 12:52.46 | pH5 | pavelm: no. I guess we'll have to wait and see what they ship with the final P1 phones. |
| 12:52.57 | pH5 | the output of hhtest is "(10) fe 00 fd c0 00 f2 71 09 10 fc" |
| 12:53.13 | pH5 | a packet with one word that is supposed to be a version |
| 12:53.25 | pH5 | 0xf2710910 |
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| 12:55.29 | pH5 | in the other serial tests (c???.txt) the first communication with the gps is the same read command with a longer packet length and the gps returns some more data after the first word |
| 12:55.38 | pavelm | ph5: I should arrive tommorow or day after that... so I'm looking forward. |
| 12:56.14 | pH5 | pavelm: great |
| 12:57.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
| 13:09.19 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1966 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (5 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 13:09.19 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: |
| 13:09.19 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-callbacks-connection.c: |
| 13:09.19 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.h: |
| 13:09.19 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-callbacks-connection.h: |
| 13:09.21 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Implement incoming window responses and make use clip if available. |
| 13:09.25 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-main.c: Move gtk initialisation to after single |
| 13:14.02 | kiney | counter |
| 13:14.02 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 22:46:11 (10.949 +-5.0 days) (1196;206) |
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| 13:27.49 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1967 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/artwork/themes/openmoko-standard/gtk-2.0/mokoicons: * remove missing images from theme |
| 13:29.24 | pH5 | has anybody tried to run maemo-mapper-nohildon on the neo? |
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| 13:42.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1968 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: openmoko-dialer: make sure incoming window is initialised |
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| 13:52.04 | write_erase | Hi, It would be nice if someone can get a more precise date for the orders (the topic). |
| 13:53.35 | SpeedEvil | yes, yes it would |
| 13:54.09 | *** topic/#openmoko by mjr -> OpenMoko Community Lounge <> Free Your Phone <> wiki.openmoko.org <> Anyone can buy for $350 starting perhpas late May. <> Mass market in September. |
| 13:54.15 | *** topic/#openmoko by SpeedEvil -> OpenMoko Community Lounge <> Free Your Phone <> wiki.openmoko.org <> Anyone can buy for $350 starting around mid-late May. Mass market in September. |
| 13:54.16 | *** topic/#openmoko by mjr -> OpenMoko Community Lounge <> Free Your Phone <> wiki.openmoko.org <> Anyone can buy for $350 starting perhaps late May. <> Mass market in September. |
| 13:54.53 | SpeedEvil | It looks like it's going to be a couple of weeks. |
| 13:55.39 | mjr | oops, I was just correcting a typo, didn't mean to overrule you |
| 13:55.52 | SpeedEvil | late may works fine too. |
| 13:55.57 | SpeedEvil | It's prolly not going to be mid |
| 13:56.09 | mjr | yeah |
| 13:56.36 | aloril | maybe its now 2007-05-20 run? (or maybe some other day, but that day still almost fits with about 2 weeks ;-) |
| 13:56.59 | aloril | if 2 weeks is counted from 2007-05-10 that is |
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| 14:08.41 | bmidgley | hrmph. dialer crashes in latest image at the moment i click 'dial' |
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| 14:09.59 | bh1 | counter? |
| 14:09.59 | aloril | "/msg aloril counter?" for actual long message, giving short version here: http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 21:50:14 (10.910 +-5.0 days) (1197;206) |
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| 14:11.58 | Pander_ | hi all |
| 14:14.27 | fix__ | just a question, but will the mass production also be delayed? |
| 14:15.17 | guaqua | nobody knows |
| 14:15.36 | fix__ | okay |
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| 14:15.50 | Pander_ | can anyone tell me where to find artwork and logos on openmoko and what the license on the artwork is |
| 14:16.18 | koen | in svn and see COPYING |
| 14:17.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Hammerhead_protocol]] |
| 14:18.30 | bmidgley | ok the may 14 image does not have a matching uImage kernel |
| 14:18.40 | bmidgley | no modules loaded |
| 14:19.08 | guaqua | who is in charge of the images? |
| 14:20.15 | bmidgley | may 14 rootfs needs kernel 2.6.21.1-moko8 |
| 14:20.24 | bmidgley | why regress from moko10? |
| 14:21.29 | bmidgley | if uboot read the kernel from inside the rootfs we wouldn't keep getting this mismatch |
| 14:22.03 | koen | preaching to the choir |
| 14:22.08 | pH5 | yeah, I wish it would do that. |
| 14:22.13 | pH5 | :) |
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| 14:25.51 | bmidgley | i started building my own image from mokomakefile but apparently that takes a couple of days |
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| 14:33.36 | bmidgley | in the meantime, whoever generates images created a mismatched kernel/root on may 14 |
| 14:33.43 | bmidgley | my phone shipped with a mismatched kernel |
| 14:34.11 | bmidgley | it's a recurring problem |
| 14:35.06 | noidd | thats what we're here for as P1 recipients |
| 14:37.09 | bmidgley | to help establish release protocols? |
| 14:40.55 | bmidgley | so reading on the wiki it sounds like these images could be made by a volunteer who logs in to the build server? |
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| 14:51.55 | Pander_ | this file is empty trunk$ more ./src/target/OM-2007/artwork/icons/COPYING |
| 14:52.19 | Pander_ | does anyone know what the rights on the artwork are? and where to find openmoko (scalable) logo? |
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| 14:55.50 | PBeck | tag |
| 14:57.05 | hrw | guten |
| 14:59.21 | noidd | Pander_: I don't |
| 14:59.53 | Pander_ | this is the closed as a logo as i can find: svn.openmoko.org/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/examples/openmoko-panel-demo/data/icon.png any other suggestions? |
| 15:01.46 | alp | i'm having a bit of trouble with mokomakefile. i started off a make openmoko-devel-image, stopped it last night and started it again this morning and now i get http://www.pastebin.ca/491234 |
| 15:02.35 | zecke | alp: the Autobuilder has the same issue |
| 15:02.44 | zecke | alp: I don't know of any solution yet |
| 15:02.58 | zecke | !ombug 559 |
| 15:03.00 | zecke | !ombug 561 |
| 15:03.02 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 559, Status: NEW, Created: Unknown |
| 15:03.02 | cdbot2 | * * autobuild-reports(AT)openmoko.org: uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r7_a7676ea7732f3c596805079fed7e5c9fac652cfc_0_1949-do_compile |
| 15:03.03 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=559 |
| 15:03.05 | cdbot2 | * * Bug 561, Status: NEW, Created: Unknown |
| 15:03.07 | cdbot2 | * * autobuild-reports(AT)openmoko.org: uboot-gta01-1.2.0+svnnow-r7_a7676ea7732f3c596805079fed7e5c9fac652cfc_0_1961-do_compile |
| 15:03.09 | cdbot2 | * * http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=561 |
| 15:03.36 | alp | zecke: ah, as long as it's not an issue with pausing the build, it's all good :-) |
| 15:04.35 | zecke | alp: normally it is safe to pause/interrupt builds |
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| 15:45.51 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03laforge * r1970 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/ (hxd8-tsl256x.patch series): * Add new TSL256x ambient light sensor driver |
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| 15:51.21 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1971 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/ (dialer-window-incoming.c dialer-window-talking.c): openmoko-dialer: make sure window-talking is initialised, and hangup when it is hidden |
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| 15:52.54 | DukeOfURL | Speed: triaxial magnetometer |
| 15:52.59 | DukeOfURL | ??? |
| 15:53.11 | don-o | woot. more commits++ |
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| 15:56.48 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1972 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-incoming.c: openmoko-dialer: add missing parameter, fix comiler warnings |
| 15:58.44 | don-o | especially when its the dialer app. |
| 15:58.56 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1973 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-dialer/src/dialer-window-talking.c: openmoko-dialer: fix compiler warnings |
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| 16:00.22 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03laforge * r1974 10/trunk/src/target/kernel/patches/hxd8-core.patch: add nand-1 and nand-2 for 2nd and 3rd nand chip in hxd8 |
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| 16:04.15 | TRIsoft | gtg, cu |
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| 16:18.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
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| 16:20.03 | torrado | what are the possibles cell phones to work with openmoko plataform ? Only Neo 1973 ? |
| 16:20.04 | aloril | torrado: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 16:22.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
| 16:22.52 | mickeyl | at this point of time yes. people are working on HTC and EZX ports |
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| 16:29.29 | dietricha | counter |
| 16:29.29 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 19:30:44 (10.813 +-5.0 days) (1198;206) |
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| 17:26.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Sean Moss-Pultz <sean at openmoko.com> Re: Durability of the Neo1973? |
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| 17:32.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Sean Moss-Pultz <sean at openmoko.com> Re: Durability of the Neo1973? and 1 other mails |
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| 17:40.12 | ossman | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel |
| 17:40.20 | ossman | is that page really correct that the patches are against 2.6.20? |
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| 18:08.45 | admin_ | coredumpedOpenMoko: http://r0n.kuzew.net:81/coredumpOpenMoko.png This is rev 1950, 1974 didn't work for me, it just 'stood' there. which rev should I use? |
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| 18:11.30 | kpanic | hi, I'm under qemu, I'm at the boot screen how to boot? which key I have to press? thanks |
| 18:11.54 | admin_ | space |
| 18:12.11 | admin_ | maybe |
| 18:12.12 | kpanic | ok |
| 18:12.15 | kpanic | it works, before it not worked |
| 18:12.19 | admin_ | ok |
| 18:12.23 | roh | kpanic space or return.. its swapped to how its documented afaik |
| 18:13.39 | admin_ | so what rev should I use |
| 18:13.47 | admin_ | becuase 1974 doesn't wanna work |
| 18:13.53 | guaqua | admin_: try others |
| 18:14.02 | admin_ | yeah..there's only 1973 others ;P |
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| 18:14.53 | roh | admin_ i tried 2 days ago and there it was fine... i'll try again tomorrow if i find the time.. lots of other work to do here in taipeh ;) |
| 18:15.38 | admin_ | k |
| 18:17.55 | daxxar | 'perhaps late May', haha :P |
| 18:18.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Flight_Mode]] [[Look_%26_Feel]] [[User:Pander]] |
| 18:20.15 | admin_ | seems now this is a problem: openmoko/flash.sh: line 75: /home/ronnie/qemu-neo1973/arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm: No such file or directory |
| 18:25.47 | roh | admin_ i really have to sleep right now.. bit i will look at it in the morning. its 2:23 am here atm and the traffic here in taiwan seems to follow a gaussian curve, starting at 8am ;) just try to reach me here in about 8hours or so |
| 18:26.36 | admin_ | heh, thanks roh , I shall |
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| 19:02.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
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| 19:27.44 | balrog-kun | roh: it was swapped at some point but should be okay now |
| 19:28.07 | balrog-kun | unless the GPIOs were exchanged in GTA01Bv4 |
| 19:31.23 | balrog-kun | admin_: rev 1947 was the last one before the huge update |
| 19:31.35 | admin_ | thanks balrog-kun |
| 19:31.47 | admin_ | I'm trying the MokoMakefile now |
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| 19:32.17 | Elrond | huge update? |
| 19:32.42 | balrog-kun | from 0.8.2 to 0.9.0 |
| 19:32.54 | Elrond | Ahh. |
| 19:33.09 | balrog-kun | admin_: i tried building current SVN on yet another random computer today and saw no problems |
| 19:33.30 | balrog-kun | except that it was awfully slow (so slow that i couldn't believe) |
| 19:33.40 | balrog-kun | but it turned out my home directory on that computer was on NFS |
| 19:33.51 | balrog-kun | when i moved to /tmp everything was normal again |
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| 19:34.43 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1975 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/ (11 files in 3 dirs): o Prepare infrastructure for new startup-notification matchbox-panel-2 applet. |
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| 19:36.06 | admin_ | ah |
| 19:38.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
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| 19:43.43 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1976 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/data/ (9 files): o Applet images and Makefile |
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| 19:45.49 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03andrew * r1977 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (openmoko/flash.sh vl.c): Make flash.sh less timing dependent by using correct qemu shutdown. Fix usb-gadget initialisation with no '-usb'. |
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| 19:49.01 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1978 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/src/ (Makefile.am openmoko-panel-startup.c): |
| 19:49.01 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Not yet, but hopefully soon, upstream version from startup-notification applet. |
| 19:49.01 | CIA-24 | openmoko: NOTE: This version is only checked in to have the full changes in svn history. |
| 19:49.12 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03andrew * r1979 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/ (25 files in 7 dirs): Pull changes from cvs.savannah.nongnu.org. |
| 19:51.16 | balrog-kun | <3 git |
| 19:52.02 | LetoTo | indeed. and cogito :) |
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| 19:52.26 | admin_ | dammit |
| 19:52.34 | admin_ | it just keeps on coredumping, I tried rev 1947 |
| 19:52.59 | balrog-kun | admin_: with the "executing at 0x38000000" message? |
| 19:53.07 | admin_ | yeah |
| 19:53.16 | balrog-kun | admin_: it means roughly that u-boot didn't get loaded |
| 19:53.30 | admin_ | How would I be able to fix that balrog-kun ? |
| 19:53.32 | balrog-kun | either the file was empty or something wrong with the file |
| 19:54.07 | balrog-kun | you should have u-boot.bin in the source directory of about 200 kB |
| 19:54.09 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1980 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/src/Makefile.am: The applet needs libstartup-notification |
| 19:54.24 | balrog-kun | alternatively a symlink to some 200 kB file in openmoko. |
| 19:54.27 | balrog-kun | openmoko/ |
| 19:56.01 | admin_ | hmm, it's in the same dir |
| 19:57.12 | balrog-kun | and it's named exactly 'u-boot.bin'? |
| 19:57.25 | admin_ | well, it's named u-boot.bin, but it's a link to a folder of stuff |
| 19:57.55 | balrog-kun | to a folder (directory) or a file? |
| 19:57.55 | balrog-kun | it's supposed to be linked to a file |
| 19:57.56 | admin_ | folder |
| 19:58.03 | admin_ | want me to take a screenshot? |
| 19:58.18 | balrog-kun | no, make it point to the right u-boot image |
| 19:58.33 | admin_ | what's the uboot image? openmoko-kernel.bin |
| 19:58.34 | admin_ | ? |
| 19:58.44 | balrog-kun | rm -rf u-boot.bin; ln -s openmoko/u-b* ./u-boot.bin |
| 19:58.48 | admin_ | ok |
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| 19:59.46 | admin_ | the new link you created uh..doesn't link to anything |
| 20:00.08 | balrog-kun | is there an u-boot image in openmoko/ at all? :-P |
| 20:00.13 | admin_ | no |
| 20:00.14 | admin_ | :P |
| 20:00.18 | balrog-kun | you did run openmoko/download.sh, right? |
| 20:00.21 | admin_ | yea |
| 20:00.25 | admin_ | *yeah |
| 20:00.30 | balrog-kun | and it didn't fail? |
| 20:00.36 | admin_ | nopoe |
| 20:01.06 | balrog-kun | it should've download three files, on of them named u-boot-blah-blah |
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| 20:01.30 | admin_ | well, I'll try again with the newest rev |
| 20:01.56 | balrog-kun | i don't suppose it will be different than yesterday's rev |
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| 20:04.40 | admin_ | oh noes, I'm doing it now with 1980 |
| 20:04.53 | admin_ | during make: gcc-3.4: host-utils.o: No such file or directory |
| 20:04.53 | admin_ | make[1]: *** [qemu-system-arm] Error 1 |
| 20:04.53 | admin_ | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ronnie/qemu-neo1973/arm-softmmu' |
| 20:04.53 | admin_ | make: *** [subdir-arm-softmmu] Error 2 |
| 20:05.38 | balrog-kun | oops! my fault |
| 20:06.18 | admin_ | balrog-kun: you're in charge of svn? |
| 20:06.21 | admin_ | Cool. |
| 20:07.49 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03andrew * r1981 10/trunk/src/host/qemu-neo1973/host-utils.c: Merge in new files from cvs.savannah.nongnu.org. |
| 20:08.06 | balrog-kun | yeah |
| 20:10.33 | admin_ | did you fix what was wrong balrog-kun ? |
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| 20:11.05 | balrog-kun | admin_: since yesterday, nope |
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| 20:11.38 | balrog-kun | the problem is that nothing seems to be wrong on the machine where i had a chance to try it :p |
| 20:11.52 | admin_ | heh |
| 20:17.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Flight_Mode]] [[Applications]] [[Wishlist:Ignore_Call_Button]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
| 20:21.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
| 20:23.07 | admin_ | gah, I'm still getting: Trying to execute code outside RAM or ROM at 0x38000000 |
| 20:23.10 | admin_ | error |
| 20:24.37 | balrog-kun | is u-boot.bin correctly pointing to the u-boot image now? |
| 20:24.43 | admin_ | nope :/ |
| 20:24.53 | balrog-kun | make it point :) |
| 20:25.08 | admin_ | but there's no u-boot image to point to! |
| 20:25.10 | admin_ | :( |
| 20:25.25 | balrog-kun | what files did openmoko/download.sh download? |
| 20:26.04 | admin_ | it just DL'd html files |
| 20:26.29 | admin_ | it says though "Kernel is...not found" and "U-bootis...not found" when you do openmoko/download.sh |
| 20:27.10 | admin_ | the u-boot.bin links to a folder called openmoko |
| 20:28.07 | admin_ | although there are a ton of errors during openmoko/flash.sh about sleep |
| 20:28.15 | admin_ | but it says it 'worked' |
| 20:29.09 | webjames | i get something completely different, i don't get any errors just high cpu usage and nothing |
| 20:29.24 | balrog-kun | download.sh apparently failed, hmm |
| 20:29.31 | balrog-kun | it does no error checking whatsoever |
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| 20:31.13 | balrog-kun | i'm no bash expert :( |
| 20:31.14 | admin_ | webjames: with the latest svn, I get high cpu usage, and but crash or core dump, just high cpu and blank qemu. but with earlier ones, it'll open qemu, a few sec later it'll coredump |
| 20:31.43 | webjames | however the manual qemu way does work, it seems to be a problem with mokomakefile or rather what it does, or does not download correctly |
| 20:32.34 | webjames | now successfully running qemu |
| 20:33.37 | webjames | balrog-kun: btw it is now alot quicker than those timing i posted earlier this week |
| 20:34.00 | balrog-kun | webjames: know what might have been the cause? |
| 20:34.09 | admin_ | hmmmm |
| 20:34.14 | admin_ | I didn't use mokomake webjames |
| 20:34.39 | webjames | balrog-kun: perhaps my computer doing something whilst building |
| 20:35.26 | balrog-kun | webjames: i tested the whole thing again on a 32bit computer where it was so slow for me and it turned out all my home directory was on a network drive heh - when i moved to normal sotrage it was normal speed again |
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| 20:36.02 | webjames | balrog-kun: i guess two unfortunate coincidences |
| 20:37.47 | webjames | admin_: at what stage during these steps do you get errors? http://dpaste.com/10440/ |
| 20:38.35 | admin_ | well I guess the openmoko/flash.sh, I get tons of sleep errors where nothing is definied or junk, that may lead to why it won't work for me |
| 20:39.38 | webjames | maybe you could run these commands from a fresh dir and post them? |
| 20:39.59 | webjames | i just built revision 1981 |
| 20:40.46 | admin_ | ok webjames |
| 20:40.48 | admin_ | I will do that :) |
| 20:43.52 | admin_ | wtfx |
| 20:43.59 | admin_ | ronnie@ubuntuBoxx:~/qemu-neo1973$ make |
| 20:43.59 | admin_ | Makefile:35: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 20:44.04 | admin_ | it won't let me make 1981 |
| 20:44.07 | admin_ | O_O |
| 20:44.28 | webjames | did you do ./configure? |
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| 20:44.55 | webjames | stick the results from that in here: http://dpaste.com/ |
| 20:45.02 | webjames | and paste the link |
| 20:45.25 | admin_ | I did ./config with some options on it |
| 20:45.32 | admin_ | about arm |
| 20:46.08 | webjames | this line: './configure --target-list=arm-softmmu' what did the print out? |
| 20:46.23 | admin_ | ./configure --target-list=arm-softmmu |
| 20:46.25 | admin_ | that's what I used |
| 20:46.28 | admin_ | why |
| 20:46.31 | admin_ | gah, hold on |
| 20:46.39 | webjames | what did that return? |
| 20:46.47 | LuitvD | lol |
| 20:47.04 | admin_ | webjames: http://dpaste.com/10441/ |
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| 20:48.19 | LuitvD | hmm, haven't tried to build any openmoko lately... where's that configure file coming from?> |
| 20:48.27 | LuitvD | an alternative to the mokomakefile? |
| 20:48.38 | LuitvD | or an extension to it? |
| 20:48.41 | webjames | manual way of building qemu |
| 20:48.46 | balrog-kun | admin_: weird. line 35 is empty |
| 20:48.48 | balrog-kun | brb |
| 20:49.07 | webjames | admin_ what are you running, type uname -a |
| 20:49.14 | admin_ | Linux ubuntuBoxx 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Tue Mar 13 23:32:38 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:49.26 | admin_ | line35 is empty because I didn't type anything... |
| 20:49.27 | admin_ | :P |
| 20:49.41 | goxboxlive | Have anyone tried building openmoko-dialer lately ? |
| 20:49.49 | LuitvD | is that to build in a way that original neo images can be used by qemu? |
| 20:50.01 | LuitvD | where on the wiki is a howto? :P |
| 20:50.04 | goxboxlive | DOes it build? It wouldnt build in OE.dev lately |
| 20:50.26 | admin_ | any ideas webjames / balrog-kun ? |
| 20:50.40 | goxboxlive | wounder if it also cuases the oe openmoko version |
| 20:51.02 | webjames | admin_ one moment |
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| 20:52.34 | webjames | admin_ how did you install qemu? |
| 20:52.57 | balrog-kun | admin_: about the "make" issue no idea |
| 20:53.09 | balrog-kun | admin_: probably TARGET_DIRS in config-host.mak has a weird value |
| 20:53.25 | webjames | admin_ type this and paste the result: ls -l /bin/sh |
| 20:53.35 | balrog-kun | admin_: about flash.sh, it's bound to fail if download.sh failed |
| 20:53.54 | admin_ | yeah, it's linked to bash webjames |
| 20:54.03 | webjames | admin_ okay |
| 20:54.06 | admin_ | webjames: as a deb |
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| 20:54.10 | admin_ | *from a deb |
| 20:54.20 | webjames | admin_ hmm okay |
| 20:54.46 | webjames | very strange about the makefile |
| 20:54.49 | balrog-kun | admin_: can you pastebin config-host.mak? |
| 20:54.56 | admin_ | sure balrog-kun |
| 20:55.59 | admin_ | balrog-kun: http://dpaste.com/10443/ |
| 20:56.27 | webjames | admin_ this is mine for comparison, although our configure statements were the same so i could see no problems there: http://dpaste.com/10444/ |
| 20:56.34 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1982 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): Adjust dependencies for libstartup-notification |
| 20:57.03 | balrog-kun | yeah, it looks fine to me |
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| 20:57.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03alphaone * r1983 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-footer/ (AUTHORS ChangeLog src/callbacks.c src/callbacks.h): |
| 20:57.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * src/callbacks.c: |
| 20:57.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: (footer_leftbutton_clicked): |
| 20:57.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: (footer_rightbutton_clicked): |
| 20:57.36 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * src/callbacks.h: |
| 20:57.38 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Fix the signature of the callback functions |
| 20:57.43 | webjames | i can see no difference.. hmmm |
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| 20:59.18 | balrog-kun | admin_: what's your "make" version btw.? (make -v) |
| 20:59.45 | admin_ | balrog-kun: 3.81 |
| 20:59.56 | balrog-kun | that's same as mine |
| 21:00.08 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1984 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/src/openmoko-panel-startup.c: |
| 21:00.08 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Use libmokoui |
| 21:00.08 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Adjust PATH for images |
| 21:01.45 | webjames | admin_ in the qemu-neo1973 dir type: 'make clean' then 'make -C arm-softmmu all' |
| 21:02.01 | webjames | and past the results |
| 21:03.58 | webjames | but admin_ used a fresh dir and followed these steps: http://dpaste.com/10440/ |
| 21:04.22 | webjames | two corrupt makefiles.. unlikely |
| 21:04.59 | admin_ | gah, I give up :P |
| 21:05.07 | admin_ | I'll try again with this in a week :P |
| 21:05.10 | admin_ | thanks though all! |
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| 21:06.06 | webjames | if you follow these step from a new _empty_ dir everything should work, if it doesn't i would say possibly something corrupt in the build environment, try building from a live cd? |
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| 21:10.05 | balrog-kun | or in a qemu virtual machine :p |
| 21:10.52 | webjames | yeah, that would work, i know it is very simple to get a working environment up in ubuntu 7.04 |
| 21:11.44 | webjames | balrog-kun: once everyone has a Neo it'll be easy as we'll all be on the same hardware! :D roll on that day |
| 21:11.59 | don-o | webjames: heh. we still have to build it first |
| 21:12.19 | zecke | is projects.openmoko.org working for anyone? |
| 21:12.31 | webjames | was for me about 10mins ago |
| 21:12.47 | zecke | webjames: did you checkin something? |
| 21:12.56 | zecke | webjames: what version of subversion do you have installed? |
| 21:13.02 | balrog-kun | zecke: the website opens |
| 21:13.11 | LuitvD | webjames: wasn't it the initial idea to create a mobile software platform for smartphones in general? :P |
| 21:13.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1985 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/ChangeLog: |
| 21:13.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 2007-05-16 Stefan Schmidt <stefan@openmoko.org> |
| 21:13.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * ChangeLog: |
| 21:13.29 | CIA-24 | openmoko: Switch to changelog commit style |
| 21:13.43 | webjames | zecke, and is working for me now, is a little slow. svn, version 1.4.3 (r23084) |
| 21:13.46 | LuitvD | webjames: I think once the Neo is up and running well, there'll be the opportunity to move on to just another device |
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| 21:14.05 | zecke | webjames: I have the usual svn trouble with https authentication... |
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| 21:14.23 | webjames | LuitvD: yeah, it's still pretty young, teething problems are expected |
| 21:14.27 | LuitvD | lust like GPE and Opie actually did... they were compiled/built for more then just the devices it has been written for... |
| 21:14.57 | LuitvD | oh I really hope to get either an e2881 or the ROKR E6 to run moko |
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| 21:16.18 | alphaone | It seems uboot is fixed |
| 21:16.18 | webjames | LuitvD: the ROKR E6 are nice |
| 21:16.18 | LuitvD | yeah :P |
| 21:16.21 | LuitvD | though I have my doubts about the OS |
| 21:16.36 | LuitvD | the device is totally great, the looks are stunning |
| 21:16.48 | stefan_schmidt | webjames: Yesterday E6 bootet with 2.6.21 plus one ezx patch :) |
| 21:16.54 | stefan_schmidt | booted |
| 21:17.11 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: dio you have an E6? :O |
| 21:17.12 | webjames | stefan_schmidt: that's great news |
| 21:17.30 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: or did you read? |
| 21:17.50 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: No, but yesterday Paulo showed up in #openezx and we worked on it. |
| 21:17.58 | happycube | newbie q: do cdma ezx phones run openezx? |
| 21:18.01 | LuitvD | :) |
| 21:18.06 | zecke | webjames: what is your project? do you use https or ssh? |
| 21:18.17 | stefan_schmidt | happycube: Never heard pof one though |
| 21:18.20 | happycube | shucks |
| 21:18.31 | happycube | (since we'll never see a cdma openmoko ;) ) |
| 21:18.35 | happycube | *probably never |
| 21:18.37 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: is that the E680 or E690? |
| 21:19.17 | webjames | zecke: sorry i was just looking at a bug report i didn't submit anything |
| 21:19.23 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: Not the E680, that's an old one. Not sure is they renamed E690 to ROKR E2. |
| 21:19.41 | LuitvD | E6 that is, not E2 |
| 21:19.51 | stefan_schmidt | happycube: Sorry to say so, but I like to see CDMA die :) |
| 21:19.57 | LuitvD | the E690 is the ROKR E6 |
| 21:20.10 | LuitvD | that's one thing I do know for sure :P |
| 21:20.39 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, I mean E6 |
| 21:20.59 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: And if you are sure about the renaming that's fine |
| 21:22.12 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: I changed boot_usb a bit and afterwards the 2.6.21 boots fine with ezx-core.patch only. |
| 21:22.14 | LuitvD | read about 3 articles using both names for the same device, so I'm pretty sure |
| 21:22.42 | zecke | okay then I think projects.openmoko.org is still broken (can't checkin stuff) |
| 21:22.50 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: so moko on a moto is just openezx and a QVGA theme? |
| 21:22.52 | zecke | night |
| 21:23.36 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: I talk about kernel working userspace is far away :) |
| 21:23.37 | webjames | night |
| 21:23.40 | stefan_schmidt | night zecke |
| 21:23.50 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: ah, right :P |
| 21:23.53 | webjames | me 2 night |
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| 21:26.06 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: so how does one flash a moto e690? via USB like the FIC Neo? |
| 21:26.17 | Elrond | (openmoko-footer:1300): Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_property_get(): length value has wrapped in calculation (did you pass G_MAXLONG?) |
| 21:26.20 | Elrond | Hmm. |
| 21:26.29 | Elrond | Does anyone ever look at the warnings? ;o) |
| 21:26.51 | LuitvD | Elrond: we thought you did :P |
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| 21:27.04 | Elrond | LuitvD - *lol* ;-) |
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| 21:27.39 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: moment |
| 21:29.12 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: At the moment we load the zImage over usb into ram and execute from the bootloader |
| 21:29.45 | LuitvD | which bootloader is that? ... |
| 21:29.49 | stefan_schmidt | Anyway, later. Still have some commits to do tonight |
| 21:30.02 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: blob, its all in wiki.openezx.org |
| 21:30.16 | LuitvD | lol, okay :) |
| 21:30.46 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: loading that zImage isn't done through USB DFU is it? |
| 21:31.35 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: by the way, that wiki knows the Rokr E6 is E690 too :P |
| 21:32.02 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: Ah, so we already fixed that some time ago |
| 21:32.09 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: No DFU |
| 21:32.27 | LuitvD | the neo can't do DFU yet either, can it? |
| 21:32.39 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: That will work once we have u-boot on it. Still some mnths in the future |
| 21:33.02 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: Neo can, but I really have to work. /me hints again to the wikis ;) |
| 21:33.25 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: allright, g'd luck on the work you'll have to do |
| 21:33.38 | alphaone | Elrond: The warning was there before, though, wasn't it? |
| 21:33.47 | alphaone | (openmoko-footer) |
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| 21:34.29 | stefan_schmidt | LuitvD: Just watch CIA in this channel ;) |
| 21:34.56 | Elrond | alphaone - I don't know. I just killed it from the shell and started it fresh. ;o) |
| 21:35.21 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: I will :P |
| 21:36.27 | Bish | <3 openmoko |
| 21:38.35 | alphaone | Elrond: what version are you using (openmoko-footer?) |
| 21:41.35 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: lol, just clicked through from the wiki to a forum and found some 'not so smart' people using java to get a winamp-like program... XD |
| 21:41.45 | Elrond | root@fic-gta01:~$ ipkg list | grep foot |
| 21:41.45 | Elrond | openmoko-footer - 0.0.1+svnnow-r0_1631 - |
| 21:42.03 | LuitvD | as if they never heard of XMMS or any other winamp-like or better program :P |
| 21:42.03 | Elrond | I probably should update the rootfs. ;o) |
| 21:42.30 | stefan_schmidt | Elrond: Nice machine name ;) |
| 21:43.05 | balrog-kun | so original |
| 21:43.09 | Rince | ;) |
| 21:43.33 | Elrond | stefan_schmidt - *smile* ;) |
| 21:44.28 | Elrond | stefan_schmidt - I need a day to a week to give machines a new name. :-) |
| 21:44.28 | LuitvD | grep foot XD |
| 21:45.18 | alphaone | Elrond: okay, thanks. That means the warnings are not my fault :-) |
| 21:45.48 | alphaone | I should still try to find and fix them, though. |
| 21:46.07 | Elrond | alphaone - :-) |
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| 21:50.30 | LuitvD | stefan_schmidt: still no CIA messages? :( |
| 21:50.51 | LuitvD | or are you bulking the commits to do 10 in a row? :P |
| 21:51.21 | alphaone | LuitvD: Right now he's not working at all :-) |
| 21:51.29 | LuitvD | :P |
| 21:52.03 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: heh |
| 21:52.20 | alphaone | LuitvD: Unlike me, of course ;-) |
| 21:52.39 | LuitvD | heheh |
| 21:52.41 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: That's not right. I think about using manual malloc for strdup or diable std=c99 |
| 21:52.42 | LuitvD | you go girl |
| 21:53.25 | kiney | counter? |
| 21:53.25 | aloril | "/msg aloril counter?" for actual long message, giving short version here: http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 14:06:48 (10.588 +-5.0 days) (1199;206) |
| 21:54.30 | LuitvD | aloril: yay, you fixed the channel 'counter?' :D |
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| 22:17.26 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wishlist:Text_Input]] [[Talk:Flight_Mode]] [[Wish_List]] |
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| 22:31.37 | stuhood | counter |
| 22:31.37 | aloril | http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counter (probability guess: 65%) P1: a week, 3 days 13:28:36 (10.562 +-5.0 days) (1200;206) |
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| 22:35.09 | CoreDump|home | hi |
| 22:35.10 | LuitvD | hello |
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| 22:36.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 03stefan * r1986 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-startup/ (ChangeLog src/openmoko-panel-startup.c): |
| 22:36.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: 2007-05-17 Stefan Schmidt <stefan@openmoko.org> |
| 22:36.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: * src/openmoko-panel-startup.c: |
| 22:36.28 | CIA-24 | openmoko: (monitor_event_func): |
| 22:36.29 | CIA-24 | openmoko: As C99 is policy in openmoko we can't use strdup. So we |
| 22:36.29 | CIA-24 | openmoko: use g_strdup instead |
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| 22:43.23 | Elrond | Is it me, or is the wiki down? |
| 22:44.06 | LuitvD | Elrond: looks like it is... |
| 22:45.16 | LuitvD | not getting any response either |
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| 22:48.30 | LuitvD | ah, there it is again :) |
| 22:49.05 | LuitvD | and gone once more |
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| 23:07.25 | aloril | (script) openmoko-community: Werner Almesberger <werner at openmoko.org> Re: Few comments after reading Wiki |
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| 23:17.10 | Elrond | aloril - Is your script buggy, or is werner posting a lot of those? |
| 23:19.10 | zod | Elrond: there are some |
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| 23:50.40 | neostrider | hello folks |
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