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00:16.31alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 5 days 05:51:44 (12.244 +-12.2 days) (948,167)
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00:51.24aloril(script) wiki RecentChanges: [[FAQ]]
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01:23.59Cassanohello
01:24.32Cassanothis is the channel for the onpen source phone yeah?
01:24.33alorilCassano: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.)
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01:31.05Cassanoit looks like around late April the 1973 will be available for purchase will it be Useable by then?
01:35.18Cassanoi just read the FAQ it looks to be an awsome phone maybe i will come back in 6-7 months and buy 1. is it going to be sold in Australia?
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01:42.19chadphopefully - if not it can be imported
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05:55.24alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 5 days 03:02:18 (12.127 +-12.1 days) (949,167)
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06:28.33Hopscotchgood morning
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06:54.49abraxa__Good morning, Hopscotch!
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07:00.12alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 5 days 02:29:54 (12.104 +-12.1 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-01);  4 months, 3 weeks, 4 days (148.208 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (950,167)
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08:26.24aloril(script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Talk:Music_Player]]
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08:45.13CIA-16openmoko: 03laforge * r1812 10/trunk/src/target/gsm/src/gsmd/usock.c:
08:45.13CIA-16openmoko: The standard says that the parameter is not optional. Some modems
08:45.13CIA-16openmoko: (correctly) return "ERROR" in response to "AT+COPS". (Philipp Zabel)
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09:04.54Ebli1are the projects on projects.openmoko.org operational ? i get a 404, root 'x' not found
09:04.54alorilEbli1: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.)
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09:23.43abraxa_Ebli1: projects.openmoko.org seems to work just fine for me - which page are you trying to access?
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09:38.17Psi__has there been any word on if the stability issues are hardware or software yet?
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09:46.31Ebli1abraxa_: dotnet project, view sources
09:46.38Ebli1browse svn repository
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09:48.25abraxa_Ah, yeah, the projects SVN is broken
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10:02.25Rajahttp://www.pastebin.ca/451217
10:02.43quitte_Psi__: last thing i heard here is that the hardware issues are resolved now.
10:06.19buzsean should write a weekly status blog
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10:21.24aloril(script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Talk:Music_Player]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware_-_Atmospheric]] [[Buying_Interest_List]]
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10:31.16wehttambhow likely is it that there will be WiFi in the mass market release
10:35.38abraxa_From what I gather it'll happen
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10:37.10abraxa_Hellos
10:39.10wehttambthats good
10:39.27wehttambi may not get it if it doesnt have wifi
10:39.34wehttambfor me wifi is a MUST
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10:42.16abraxa_wehttamb: WiFi will come for sure, the only question is when
10:43.04wehttambdo u think it will be here before the mass market release in september?
10:43.04alorilwehttamb: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.)
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10:47.09kabturekaloha ppl
10:47.38kabturekso what is the actual state ? ie when can i buy one ? ;)
10:48.06kiney_counter
10:48.06alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 5 days 00:35:57 (12.025 +-12.0 days) (951,167)
10:48.08rycudaThat's the $350 question kabturek =)
10:49.07kabturekhehe ^_^
10:49.14kiney_once I saw a more detailed counter here (also having a countdown for massmarket) how to activate that one?
10:49.25mikeshcounter?
10:49.25alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 5 days 00:35:17 (12.025 +-12.0 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-01);  4 months, 3 weeks, 4 days (148.049 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (952,167)
10:49.34kiney_ok, thanks
10:52.05kabturekohhhhh
10:52.08kabtureknice thing
10:52.10kabturekThe hardware will update with a faster CPU and "something else everyone has been asking for".
10:52.49rycudaI'm just trying to work out whether I can justify spending the cash on the dev release and then paying for the upgrade. I know what I /want/ to do...
10:54.17kabturekhmm i will probably wait
10:54.40kabtureki waited sooo long ;)
10:56.41wehttambi will wait but it still seems like a long time
10:57.11kabturekyeah
10:57.37kabturekim wondering what the discount will be for ppl with phase 1 phone
10:58.15wehttambyea if is is a big discount i might get the phase 1
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12:16.24aloril(script) planet: Harald "LaF0rge" Welte: Introducing patchwork to the openmoko mailinglists http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/04/01#20070401-patchwork
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12:57.31Sufflopesame here, I can't bear my Windows phone any more... if the phase 1.5 is late and the discount correct, I think I won't wait
13:00.12buzi'm tempted to pick up a 15? sagem for the time being
13:00.20buzthen again, my p900 still mostly works
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16:38.55abraxa_IRC so idle today... must be the great weather ;)
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16:40.11SrRaventhe weater is niiiiiiiice
16:40.32SrRavenoh btw abraxa didnt even know you were german,guuuten ;)
16:40.48abraxa_Gruetzi ;D
16:41.09abraxa_What area are you from?
16:41.14SrRavenhesssse
16:41.42abraxa_As am I
16:41.57SrRavennear darmstadt
16:42.15abraxa_Friedberg here
16:42.20abraxa_If that rings a bell ;)
16:42.28SrRavenhah
16:42.33SrRavenyou dont work at segmüller do ya?
16:42.39abraxa_Nope
16:42.45SrRavengood
16:43.38abraxa_I don't know of any Segmueller subsidary anywhere near here, though :o
16:44.17SrRaventhe fabric that produces their material is there
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16:44.52abraxa_Interesting, never knew that - either way we should do some German OpenMoko meeting someday
16:45.02SrRavenhehe
16:45.04SrRavensure thing
16:45.06abraxa_Looks like there are a metric ton of us involved in it ;)
16:45.10SrRavenbut gonna run to get the bus,bye
16:45.17abraxa_Enjoy
16:45.30SrRavenyou too,get out more1
16:45.32SrRaven!#
16:45.43SrRavenshitty keyboard tw
16:45.45SrRaven*ftw
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16:47.02alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 4 days 21:36:29 (11.900 +-11.9 days) (953,167)
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18:34.47alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 4 days 20:42:36 (11.863 +-11.9 days) (954,167)
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20:18.32SpeedEvilEvening.
20:22.17rwhitby-treoSpeedEvil: any new info in the last 5 days?
20:22.35SpeedEvilNot really.
20:22.49SpeedEvilOther than at least one of the delays is screen availability problmes.
20:24.17rwhitby-treohmm - hadn't seen that one
20:24.20SpeedEvilTo the extent that changing screens is not an utter impossibility.
20:27.06Vegarwow
20:27.14Vegaris that hardware/software problem solved?
20:27.19rwhitby-treohas shenki been around here?  he has my P0 device while I'm on holidays.
20:27.19SpeedEvilApparently.
20:27.36SpeedEvilThe board allegedly works fine.
20:27.48koenVegar: yes, the only problem is screens according to sean
20:28.16Vegarcool
20:28.22SpeedEvilNot been talking in the last day or so.
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20:33.43Vegarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgUZSwOWMEM&mode=related - the delay/lag seen when typing the phone number in that clip.. will the P1 devices be like that?
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20:37.57hrwhave to look first
20:38.57koenthat delay is caused by developers not knowing how to use EDS/dbus
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20:39.20koenI bet ross could solve it in 5 minutes
20:39.35SuNSo.. get him to do it ;)
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20:41.41Vegarkoen: so it's not because of slow hardware?
20:42.07koennot really
20:42.15koenthe calculator is fast
20:42.23koenwhich is the same principle
20:42.42Vegarok
20:42.45Vegarmeh
20:42.55Vegarmy qemu panics
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21:48.24aloril(script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Translation]]
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22:37.39paulproteusWhoa, bcollins is around here.
22:37.58paulproteusOh, was.
22:40.11Sufflopecounter?
22:40.11alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; a week, 4 days 18:39:54 (11.778 +-11.8 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-05-02);  4 months, 3 weeks, 3 days (147.555 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (955,167)
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22:58.48Psi__haven't seen any announcement since "I promise you all will be the first (behind myself) to know when we isolate the problems, if we need another spin or not, and when we are ready to ship."
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23:33.44alorilhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 4 days 18:13:08 (11.759 +-11.8 days) (956,167)
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