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| 00:53.33 | pjz | any MokoMakefile experts around? |
| 00:54.13 | pjz | I'm wondering if it's safe to do multiple kinds of builds in the same tree. eg. qemu and moko |
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| 01:12.46 | MacNorth | as in make openmoko-devel-image and make qemu ? that's ok |
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| 01:18.28 | roh | pjz no problem so far |
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| 02:46.02 | joss193 | has anyone used cdma? |
| 02:46.33 | amarsh04 | only as a user, joss193 |
| 02:46.52 | joss193 | amarsh04: only as user? |
| 02:47.26 | amarsh04 | one stepdaughter has a cdma handset, in Australia cdma is being phased out over the next 2 years |
| 02:47.57 | amarsh04 | I like my mobile handsets to last a *long* time (e.g. 9 years for my first gsm handset) |
| 02:48.38 | joss193 | amarsh04: yeah but here will be cdma network |
| 02:48.52 | amarsh04 | back in a few minutes, loading new kernel (kexec is fast, fsck_vfat is slow) |
| 02:48.54 | joss193 | well using this seems quite straightforward, only problem is |
| 02:49.05 | joss193 | bands are different |
| 02:49.33 | joss193 | i can not see a handset supporting 450mhz usually |
| 02:50.12 | amarsh04 | too little bandwidth at the lower frequencies |
| 02:50.15 | amarsh04 | back soon |
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| 02:53.05 | joss193 | amarsh04: well does not matter, i can not make a new it inrastructure, i need to know, if those modules can be used to access 450mhz network,qualcomm airplane and such modules |
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| 03:23.59 | joss193 | amarsh04:back? |
| 03:27.19 | amarsh04 | yes joss193 |
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| 03:36.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Buying_Interest_List]] [[Talk:Main_Page]] |
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| 04:35.37 | joss193 | hi |
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| 05:29.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
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| 06:06.59 | Rakshasa | counter |
| 06:06.59 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks 05:53:00 (14.245 +-14.0 days) (888,165) |
| 06:07.52 | Rakshasa | Hmm.. Six hours.. hopefully. ^^ |
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| 07:10.25 | billl_ | counter |
| 07:10.25 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks 04:49:34 (14.201 +-14.0 days) (889,165) |
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| 07:11.45 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 07:13.40 | kelvinn | morning |
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| 07:23.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Talk:Main_Page]] [[Buying_Interest_List]] |
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| 07:52.10 | filippo | counter |
| 07:52.11 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks 04:07:49 (14.172 +-14.0 days) (890,165) |
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| 08:04.01 | parag0n | i'm relativelky certain that the counter just takes 2 weeks, adds on a random number, and spews that back now |
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| 08:33.13 | Stephmw | mornin |
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| 08:55.54 | daxxar | aloril: counter? |
| 08:55.54 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile ; P0: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist:Neo1973_P0_Review; 2 weeks 03:04:05 (14.128 +-14.0 days) for devices for *ANYBODY* for $350 (targeting developers) (preorders: not yet) (2007-04-30); 5 months, 6 days (152.128 +-15.0 days) for mass market (2007-09-15): see topic for more info (891,165) |
| 08:56.22 | daxxar | I read that being 1 week some days ago, am I mistaken? |
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| 08:57.06 | daxxar | Hm, 1 week 21:07:03 about a week ago. :S |
| 08:57.17 | jgm | It's been delayed a bit, not sure how much hence the large +/- |
| 08:59.31 | daxxar | I just read Michael Lauers blogpost on the subject (http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2007/04/10/openmoko-coreteam-in-frankfurtmain/) |
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| 08:59.44 | daxxar | It shed some light on the situation :) |
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| 09:00.13 | jserv2 | Greeting ! |
| 09:00.47 | jserv2 | I've built qemu-based GTA01 emulator for Win32: http://mdk.linux.org.tw/~jserv/openmoko/openmoko-emulator-win32-bin-20070416.zip |
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| 09:02.04 | Stephmw | jserv2: hey there :) |
| 09:02.07 | Stephmw | jserv2: nice work! |
| 09:03.07 | jserv2 | Stephmw: hi |
| 09:03.08 | vimalg2 | Does anyone know if gsm functionality in Openmoko be implemented on A780 or other EZX devices? |
| 09:03.09 | aloril | vimalg2: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 09:03.49 | jserv2 | Maybe I should add my Win32 binary on Wiki. :-) |
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| 09:06.34 | Stephmw | jserv2: what are the keybindings btw? |
| 09:07.29 | jserv2 | Stephmw: Enter for switch items, Space for select in U-Boot. |
| 09:07.36 | Stephmw | thanks! |
| 09:08.11 | jserv2 | Stephmw: Does it work? |
| 09:08.25 | Stephmw | it's booting atm |
| 09:08.39 | Stephmw | interesting that if it timesout on uboot, it powers off |
| 09:09.03 | jserv2 | ok. |
| 09:09.25 | Stephmw | hmmm |
| 09:09.44 | Stephmw | a few error messages, but it's still going ;) |
| 09:09.56 | Stephmw | doing the 1st time config stuff |
| 09:10.02 | Stephmw | gnome-vfs atm |
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| 09:11.51 | Stephmw | gone into X... calibrating... |
| 09:12.13 | Stephmw | it's up |
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| 09:12.52 | Stephmw | takes a while for the moko statusbar at the top to show up, but it's all good |
| 09:12.59 | Stephmw | jserv2: do you need a screenshot? |
| 09:13.06 | TRIsoft | morning |
| 09:13.17 | hrw | hi Mac |
| 09:13.34 | TRIsoft | hi Marcin |
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| 09:15.39 | sureshkumar | Hi all, can any one help me with the info regarding the various SMS-CB channels available between 0-999. for example: 050 - area information |
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| 09:22.52 | Stephmw | jserv2: let me know when you've updated the wiki, I have a screenshot ready to go |
| 09:23.11 | guaqua | it takes some time to boot, but even on my restricted system at school it seems to be doing fine |
| 09:23.21 | guaqua | i can take a screenshot aswell |
| 09:25.05 | Stephmw | jserv2: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:MokoWin32Emu.jpg |
| 09:25.15 | guaqua | this is sweet |
| 09:25.39 | sureshkumar | Hi all, can any one help me with the info regarding the various SMS-CB channels available between 0-999. for example: 050 - area information |
| 09:26.02 | zecke | sureshkumar: this totally depends on your mobile operator |
| 09:26.10 | guaqua | there is no icon shown for the keyboard :/ |
| 09:26.14 | guaqua | that's the only bug in main screen |
| 09:28.00 | Stephmw | aye |
| 09:28.11 | Stephmw | any sluggishness I think is qemu's problem |
| 09:28.18 | guaqua | it's slow as hell |
| 09:28.25 | guaqua | no doubt about that :D |
| 09:28.36 | Stephmw | yeah... 500ms->800ms response time to click |
| 09:28.44 | guaqua | better here |
| 09:29.15 | Stephmw | aye, I do have a load of cruft loaded... work stuff, you know :) |
| 09:29.35 | guaqua | same here, but this computer is quite high end...at school now |
| 09:30.17 | Stephmw | you can see my specs on the screenie :) |
| 09:30.39 | Stephmw | my system still becomes unresponsive when I'm doing a distributed build |
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| 09:39.03 | jserv2 | Stephmw: cool! thanks |
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| 09:40.21 | jserv2 | Stephmw: In fact, FIC provided me a GTA01 handset, and I could take a picture about real openmoko and emulated one in the same moment. |
| 09:40.25 | jserv2 | :) |
| 09:40.49 | jserv2 | My office is near by FIC's. :) |
| 09:40.53 | Stephmw | the more, the merrier :) |
| 09:41.01 | Stephmw | bah, you just have an easy life |
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| 09:43.11 | jserv2 | How about Java vm porting on openmoko? |
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| 10:02.36 | Rakshasa | jserv2: Ask them to send me one too ^^ |
| 10:07.21 | Rakshasa | Pretty please. =D |
| 10:07.47 | XorA | Rakshasa: soon they will send one for only $350 postage |
| 10:09.31 | Rakshasa | Maybe I should go fetch it myself to save the postage... |
| 10:11.45 | Stephmw | XorA: that's gonna be a BIG stamp :) |
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| 10:12.18 | XorA | its a pity postage costs still get customs charges :-( |
| 10:12.25 | lardman | XorA: Bring it on, my Sony Ericsson is really annoying me now |
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| 10:14.16 | hrw | my simcard in neo annoys me |
| 10:14.27 | lardman | how so? |
| 10:15.38 | hrw | I have one simcard (PL Plus) in Neo. in normal phone (locked to PL Era) I have Era simcard. Neo works with Era sim but refuse to see Plus one |
| 10:16.34 | XorA | hrw: In my last job I could have debugged that |
| 10:16.35 | lardman | These are different service providers are they? |
| 10:16.45 | hrw | lardman: they are |
| 10:16.57 | hrw | lardman: and I lack unlocked phone to check Plus one |
| 10:17.18 | hrw | will probably buy some prepaid from PL Era |
| 10:17.33 | hrw | but Plus prepaid have already ~50 PLN to use |
| 10:23.33 | hrw | probably not |
| 10:24.55 | Stephmw | get your logic probe out :) |
| 10:30.41 | XorA | Stephmw: smartstation 3 :-D |
| 10:30.51 | XorA | Stephmw: Im sure I could try borrowing one |
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| 10:47.21 | Stephmw | Hooray! the dollar has hit 2 dollars to the GBP |
| 10:48.26 | hrw | ~change 2 usd to gbp |
| 10:48.33 | hrw | ~change 1 usd to pln |
| 10:48.58 | hrw | thats why my hour rate is in EUR :D |
| 10:49.26 | Stephmw | ;) |
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| 10:51.09 | Stephmw | weird... doing it via their web interface (xe.com), I get 1.00 GBP |
| 10:51.09 | Stephmw | = |
| 10:51.10 | Stephmw | 2.00218 USD |
| 10:52.37 | drath | ~change 1 gbp to usd |
| 10:54.01 | drath | ~change 1 eur to usd |
| 10:56.31 | Stephmw | hmmm, ok, so the reverse exchange isn't yet at the 2:1 stage |
| 10:56.45 | lardman | So is the device priced in dollars? Does this mean it will not actually cost us £350? ;) |
| 10:57.23 | drath | 350$ + shipping + tax |
| 10:57.33 | Stephmw | + duty |
| 10:57.37 | lardman | :( |
| 10:57.52 | lardman | still, better than £350 |
| 10:58.06 | Stephmw | it might still come close |
| 10:58.13 | Stephmw | the UK import duty is ludicrous |
| 10:58.23 | lardman | I know |
| 10:58.25 | Stephmw | I'm very tempted to collect instead |
| 10:58.31 | lardman | needs to be marked as a "present" |
| 10:58.35 | Stephmw | spend that extra 90GBP on something nice |
| 10:58.43 | Stephmw | lardman: nay, that won't work |
| 10:58.44 | lardman | like a flight over ;) |
| 10:58.50 | Stephmw | lardman: they now go on declared value |
| 10:59.01 | lardman | oh, shame |
| 11:06.23 | LaF0rge | mobile telephones from taiwan into EU have 0% tax |
| 11:06.37 | LaF0rge | all you have to pay is whatever local VAT the respective local government collects |
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| 11:10.21 | woglinde | counter |
| 11:10.21 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: 2 weeks 00:49:38 (14.034 +-14.0 days) (892,165) |
| 11:11.25 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[OpenMoko_under_QEMU]] [[User_talk:Stephmw]] |
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| 11:12.58 | hrw | hi mickeyl |
| 11:13.06 | mickeyl | cheers hrw |
| 11:13.10 | mickeyl | how are you? |
| 11:14.37 | woglinde | he mickeyl |
| 11:16.15 | hrw | good |
| 11:16.18 | hrw | thx |
| 11:16.26 | woglinde | hi hrw |
| 11:17.07 | hrw | mickeyl: I am more and more thinking about writing 'sim info' application but first need to find out why neo does not like my simcard |
| 11:17.23 | woglinde | hrw uh |
| 11:18.25 | mickeyl | hrw: sounds good. i'm going to integrate this into the gsmgprs applet then once you're done :) |
| 11:19.19 | hrw | mickeyl: no plans to create bt applet working with atleast ON/OFF? |
| 11:19.29 | mickeyl | sure thing |
| 11:19.41 | mickeyl | skeleton is there, don't you see in top panel? |
| 11:19.46 | mickeyl | just missing the popup menu |
| 11:20.08 | hrw | mickeyl: I did not have it as I use angstrom on phone. |
| 11:20.11 | mickeyl | ah |
| 11:20.16 | mickeyl | you should really use OpenMoko for now |
| 11:20.25 | hrw | mickeyl: and we did not added empty applets yet |
| 11:20.32 | mickeyl | *nod* |
| 11:20.44 | philippe | hey mickeyl! |
| 11:20.50 | mickeyl | hi ho philippe |
| 11:20.55 | hrw | mickeyl: phone apps are same |
| 11:21.11 | hrw | mickeyl: and you plan to switch to gtk 2.10 anyway |
| 11:21.18 | philippe | mickeyl: is there any openmoko stuff that needs hacking? |
| 11:21.24 | mickeyl | philippe: i'm expecting 10 debug boards this week. as soon as I get them, I'll send one to you. Please write me your address |
| 11:21.35 | philippe | mickeyl: no prob. Thanks! |
| 11:21.44 | mickeyl | philippe: oh lots of... we started using the bugtracker as todo list |
| 11:21.53 | mickeyl | even for missing features and stuff |
| 11:22.11 | philippe | mickeyl: hmm, I'll delve into it tonight then, when I get back from work |
| 11:22.32 | philippe | mickeyl: so any news on my hackfest proposal? |
| 11:23.35 | mickeyl | philippe: not really. it's waiting for p1 hardware to be shipped, but I'll start organizing that right after |
| 11:25.12 | philippe | mickeyl: good! So I know on time when to get my stock of cola and pizza :-) |
| 11:25.55 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 11:25.56 | mickeyl | will do |
| 11:26.06 | mickeyl | s/will do/definitely/ |
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| 11:33.49 | drath | guerby: yeah, and internet explorer :) |
| 11:33.59 | drath | d'oh, guaqua, not guerby |
| 11:33.59 | Stephmw | LaF0rge: not that I'm paranoid or anything, but Customs have screwed me plenty of times in the past - I'll check before deciding :) |
| 11:34.43 | guaqua | drath: i have to do visual basic at school for this base course |
| 11:34.53 | guaqua | and it _sucks_ |
| 11:35.10 | drath | heh, of course it does |
| 11:35.18 | guaqua | funniest thing is, you can't select cells from more than one worksheet in excel |
| 11:35.19 | Stephmw | write some nifty Word/Excel integration... sell it online :) |
| 11:35.39 | guaqua | you can do all sorts of automation |
| 11:35.44 | guaqua | and some of it is actually pretty cool |
| 11:35.51 | hrw | BASIC: language so primitive that it is not even contemptible |
| 11:36.19 | hrw | guaqua: so you have VBA not VB |
| 11:36.59 | guaqua | hrw: i don't really care what it is :D |
| 11:37.12 | hrw | VBA = visual basic for applications |
| 11:37.23 | hrw | ms office usage etc |
| 11:37.37 | guaqua | that must be it |
| 11:42.36 | lardman | Automation is good - I wrote an invoicing & stock control system using it |
| 11:43.10 | lardman | Used real VB though, as otherwise the interface was too clunky |
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| 12:00.17 | ewon | quickbasic will always have a special place in my heart |
| 12:04.59 | inz | qb kicked arse, you could make .exe's! |
| 12:07.11 | SuN | Hm. Thanks to QB, I never ate spaghetti again. |
| 12:08.13 | drath | lol |
| 12:08.31 | drath | commodore basic v2, iirc :) |
| 12:08.56 | hrw | Turbo Basic XL v1.5 roxx (Atari 8bit) |
| 12:09.12 | ewon | started with sinclair basic on a zx spectrum |
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| 12:12.24 | amarsh04 | who needs basic when you can have snobol (-: |
| 12:13.43 | amarsh04 | "Night of the missing full stop in your cobol assignment" |
| 12:14.09 | XorA | all coders should use brainfuck |
| 12:14.13 | XorA | everything else is lame |
| 12:15.46 | pH5 | XorA: afaik there are no brainfuck bindings for the openmoko libs (yet?) |
| 12:16.03 | cheesy3000 | XorA: maybe your brain is fucked up already ;) |
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| 12:16.54 | XorA | pH5: what they wasting their time on then :-D |
| 12:18.26 | Rakshasa | What's the package to make the kernel headers with mokomakefile? |
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| 12:55.55 | hrw | pinless one |
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| 12:57.27 | guaqua | never seen one |
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| 12:57.54 | hrw | I mean SIM-PIN-less |
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| 13:03.42 | SpeedEvil | Can the uSD on the neo already be used for mass storage by other devices? I note tha tthere is a list in the USB product IDs. |
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| 13:05.04 | SpeedEvil | oh - seen page on wiki |
| 13:06.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Wishlist:Unlikely]] [[Wish_List]] [[UI_Improvements]] |
| 13:11.34 | hrw | root@neo:~$ picocom -fh -b115200 -i -r /dev/ttySAC0 |
| 13:11.43 | hrw | works without stty ;D |
| 13:12.31 | hrw | hmm but not always |
| 13:13.00 | hrw | hmm.,, |
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| 13:36.58 | joss193 | hrw: is it a cdma device? |
| 13:38.29 | hrw | no - GSM |
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| 13:40.17 | joss193 | hrw: do you have an idea if cdma 1x1900mhz device should work with 450mhz band? |
| 13:40.22 | joss193 | somehow |
| 13:42.48 | SpeedEvil | It's a quadband device. |
| 13:42.48 | SpeedEvil | It'll work anywhere there is GSM |
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| 13:46.20 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 23:06:50 (13.963 +-14.0 days) (893,165) |
| 13:47.38 | ewon | counter |
| 13:47.39 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 23:06:10 (13.963 +-14.0 days) (894,166) |
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| 14:20.50 | PBeck | hi |
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| 14:32.54 | koen | mickeyl, LaF0rge: could you put gcc, binutils and autofoo in the openmoko feeds? OE doesn't work on marcel's machine, so we want to do native compiling, but gcc is missing from your ipk/ dirs |
| 14:36.35 | hrw | and mc and picocom ;) |
| 14:36.50 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1786 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-contacts/ (ChangeLog src/contacts-contact-pane.c): * src/contacts-contact-pane.c: (make_widget), (update_ui): Add photo chooser. Closes bug 473. |
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| 14:45.47 | Hadaka | any new news on bug statuses? |
| 14:47.58 | Hadaka | eg. when can I spend money? :) |
| 14:50.34 | Hadaka | well, atleast there seems to be plenty of commits in the repository, so these days are not wasted |
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| 14:54.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03thomas * r1787 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/applications/openmoko-contacts/ (ChangeLog src/contacts-contact-pane.c): |
| 14:54.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: * src/contacts-contact-pane.c: (choose_photo_cb), (update_ui): Make |
| 14:54.28 | CIA-16 | openmoko: sure the contact is committed when the photo is changed. |
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| 15:00.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[User:Christophloew]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
| 15:01.22 | koen | mickeyl: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-April/msg00066.html <- tap-n-hold for gtk+ upstream |
| 15:01.52 | mickeyl | YEAH! |
| 15:02.33 | koen | mickeyl: I'll try to get marcel a working native toolchain or working OE today :) |
| 15:02.39 | mickeyl | please do! |
| 15:02.40 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 15:03.03 | mickeyl | seems they're mostly windows weenies there :D |
| 15:03.35 | koen | mickeyl: could you add the native toolchain to the openmoko feeds? |
| 15:03.54 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 15:04.07 | mickeyl | dunno whether we have an appropriate working recipe for that in OM |
| 15:04.20 | koen | bitbake gcc binutils autoconf automake |
| 15:04.33 | mickeyl | hmm, these should already be in IIRC |
| 15:05.06 | koen | nope, they aren't |
| 15:05.13 | koen | unless you hid them very well :) |
| 15:05.36 | Stephmw | mickeyl: why not show them jserv2's win32 qemu running openmoko? |
| 15:05.38 | mickeyl | you're right |
| 15:05.43 | koen | I checked http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.04/ipk/armv4t/ and http://buildhost.openmoko.org/tmp/deploy/ipk/ |
| 15:05.44 | mickeyl | Stephmw: hahah :) |
| 15:05.57 | mickeyl | anything else? |
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| 15:06.13 | koen | bluez-utils, glib and linux-libc-headers |
| 15:06.20 | koen | glib-2.0, that is |
| 15:06.38 | mickeyl | glibc ? |
| 15:06.44 | mickeyl | glib is a dependency to gtk |
| 15:06.49 | mickeyl | that should really be there |
| 15:06.53 | koen | ah, cool |
| 15:07.13 | koen | bbl, I need to walk to the conference and register |
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| 15:25.58 | shenki | hello. I have a handset, and can't get it to talk to my machine. is there anybody about who could help me? |
| 15:26.17 | ewon | how is it connected to your machine? |
| 15:26.24 | shenki | usb |
| 15:27.05 | ewon | how do you want it to talk to your machine? usb mass storage? ip over usb? something else? (I'm just a random linux head, I don't actually have one of these handsets) |
| 15:29.36 | hrw | usb-audio |
| 15:29.41 | SpeedEvil | There is a 'getting started' link on the wiki |
| 15:30.41 | shenki | SpeedEvil: ok. missed that one. thanks |
| 15:30.51 | SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973 |
| 15:31.16 | MacNorth | the front page suffers from over-linkage |
| 15:31.39 | hrw | MacNorth: propose better layout - it is wiki |
| 15:32.07 | SpeedEvil | I've been meaning to work over the main page for a bit. |
| 15:32.16 | MacNorth | true, but SE seems to be the protector and style enforcer ;) |
| 15:33.05 | hrw | MacNorth: if you propose something good then he will probably accept it ;) |
| 15:33.07 | SpeedEvil | I don't especially care if others do major bits. |
| 15:33.34 | SpeedEvil | At the moment, all I've been trying to do is to reduce duplicated bits and over-verbose bits on pages, and sort them. |
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| 15:33.39 | shenki | okay. so those are the steps i've basicly figured out for myself. i still can't ping the device though. |
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| 15:34.15 | SpeedEvil | For example, several recent wishlist entries have been put in because the people simply haven't read the page. |
| 15:34.44 | SpeedEvil | Now, part of it is due to lazyness, but ideally it should be short enough not to be scary. |
| 15:34.44 | MacNorth | a 10-screen scroll isn't a fun 'read' :^) |
| 15:34.55 | shenki | my linux networking knowledge is limited. i'm getting this (excuse the paste): |
| 15:34.59 | shenki | $ ping 192.168.0.202 |
| 15:34.59 | shenki | PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 15:34.59 | shenki | From 192.168.0.11 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable |
| 15:35.22 | ewon | is the interface up? |
| 15:35.30 | ewon | do you have the relevant default gw set? |
| 15:35.56 | shenki | the unreachable message is coming form .11, which is my laptop's wifi card. do i need to do somethign so it sends the ping out thru .200 (which is the usb-ethernet)? |
| 15:36.25 | shenki | ewon: all i did was "ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0", so no, i haven't set a default gateway |
| 15:37.13 | ewon | -I interface address |
| 15:37.13 | ewon | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.13 | ewon | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.14 | ewon | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:37.39 | ewon | a kludge, but it should make the pings go through the right interface. maybe. |
| 15:42.23 | guaqua | ip route add host 192.168.0.(neo address) dev (device) |
| 15:42.39 | guaqua | `ip route show` might be helpful aswell |
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| 16:00.10 | TRIsoft | gtg, cu |
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| 16:45.14 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 21:37:23 (13.901 +-13.9 days) (895,166) |
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| 16:52.07 | CIA-16 | openmoko: 03mickey * r1788 10/trunk/src/target/OM-2007/panel-plugins/openmoko-panel-mainmenu/src/buttonactions.c: |
| 16:52.07 | CIA-16 | openmoko: openmoko-panel-mainmenu: make AUX/POWER button menu appear if button is held >= 1 seconds instead of always waiting for releaseing |
| 16:52.07 | CIA-16 | openmoko: NOTE: Thanks LaF0rge for spotting my bogus UI :D |
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| 16:53.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Music_Player]] [[Neo1973_host_software]] [[Main_Page]] [[Wishlist:GeoP2P]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] |
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| 17:01.44 | hrw | mickeyl: ~lart you for site.conf in openmoko/oe/conf |
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| 17:12.40 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 21:23:40 (13.891 +-13.9 days) (896,166) |
| 17:13.33 | Rince | not 2 weeks anymore? |
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| 17:35.41 | hrw | ~spell customizations |
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| 17:36.36 | SuN | "may be" heh |
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| 17:48.31 | hrw | http://flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/463055517/ |
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| 17:50.52 | mintee | so how's everyone liking the neo1973 thus far, (assuming it did ship to devs)? |
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| 17:58.51 | MacNorth | most of us are still waiting |
| 17:59.00 | MacNorth | a few dozen have phones, though :) |
| 17:59.03 | hrw | I have one |
| 18:00.06 | hrw | do I like it? recently I do not have too much time to test software on it |
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| 18:00.31 | SpeedEvil | At the moment, there is little to like, other than the hardware. |
| 18:00.35 | shenki__ | i have one. i still can't get it to talk to my box over usb-ethernet |
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| 18:00.45 | SpeedEvil | The software is basically not functional for most uses. |
| 18:00.45 | hrw | shenki__: you have rwhitby one? |
| 18:00.53 | shenki | hrw: that's correct |
| 18:01.16 | hrw | shenki: usbnet module loaded on desktop? |
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| 18:01.45 | shenki | hrw: yes. module loads fine, i get the usb0 device, give it an ip, but pinging doesn't work |
| 18:03.07 | hrw | shenki: run terminal on neo and check ifconfig there |
| 18:03.08 | shenki | hrw: i couldn't work out how to get a terminal up. it appears the build that rwhitby has on there doesn't have a terminal |
| 18:03.15 | hrw | arhg.. |
| 18:03.22 | shenki | argh indeed |
| 18:03.23 | hrw | shenki: you can flash newer image |
| 18:04.05 | shenki | oh, okay. i've downloaded one, where do i read about flashing it? |
| 18:04.53 | hrw | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dfu-util |
| 18:06.16 | hrw | dfu-util -d 0x1457:0x5119 -a 5 -R -D openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070415224624.rootfs.jffs2 |
| 18:06.16 | hrw | flash rootfs |
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| 18:08.57 | hrw | dfu-util -d 0x1457:0x5119 -a 3 -R -D uImage-2.6-moko9-r0_0_1754_0-fic-gta01.bin |
| 18:09.00 | hrw | flash kernel |
| 18:09.59 | hrw | speaking about liking or not -- I do not like case |
| 18:10.13 | hrw | its a bit too thick |
| 18:10.26 | hrw | and I would prefer to have small stylus in case instead of external one |
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| 18:12.21 | Rogueist | Anyone know how to order the Neo1973? All the press releases said the phone was supposed to be out in Jan 2007, but I dont see it listed for sale anywhere. |
| 18:12.21 | aloril | Rogueist: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 18:12.24 | Rince | *grin* Trolltech announced a contest for their greenphone? |
| 18:12.58 | GaKkGaKk | Will the case be changed for the release in september? |
| 18:13.05 | Rogueist | Yep if you win in any of the many categories, you get a free phone and SDK - and if you win the top place you get $5k and a full commercial license |
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| 18:13.21 | hrw | GreenPhone is not a phone |
| 18:13.31 | hrw | it is hardware reference platform |
| 18:13.32 | prom | .o(???) |
| 18:13.46 | prom | ah. that kind of discussion. ;) |
| 18:14.16 | SuN | It's the dark side of open source, if you ask me. |
| 18:14.24 | Rogueist | yeah well thats what they say - its a hardware ref platform - i have no clue if it works as a phone since i dont have one |
| 18:14.32 | Rince | Well - apparently they don't have enough appliucations ;) |
| 18:15.07 | hrw | GP is 'open' - 17 binary kernel modules for which even TT does not have source |
| 18:16.02 | ljp | but at least it works |
| 18:16.19 | SuN | "works" hmm I haven't seen proof of that :) |
| 18:16.32 | ljp | applications developers shouldnt care about kernel stuff |
| 18:16.39 | ljp | well i have proof |
| 18:16.42 | hrw | SuN: you can boot it and use |
| 18:16.56 | SuN | Open source developers should, if you ask me. |
| 18:17.21 | ljp | and i guess you use an open source bios on your desktop machine? |
| 18:17.28 | hrw | UI environment is hard to use compared to normal phones |
| 18:17.47 | ljp | hard to use? |
| 18:17.59 | hrw | ljp: my desktop use closed bios for few seconds - then opensource OS start |
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| 18:18.32 | hrw | ljp: for me it was not intuitive - SonyEricsson system is better for me |
| 18:19.18 | GaKkGaKk | hrw: LinuxBIOS will fix that, no? |
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| 18:19.24 | ljp | but sonyericsson doesnt allow you to change it do they> |
| 18:19.36 | hrw | ljp: does not |
| 18:19.44 | SuN | The fact that I'm not running an open source bios doesn't mean I don't care, in fact, I do care. |
| 18:19.54 | hrw | GaKkGaKk: I do not need linuxbios for my machines |
| 18:20.21 | hrw | GaKkGaKk: Phoenix BIOS is good enough to boot Grub from my hdd |
| 18:20.23 | SuN | The moment it becomes viable to run on my machine, you can bet I'll use it. |
| 18:20.57 | hrw | I go to shop - cu tomorrow |
| 18:21.12 | SuN | Have fun |
| 18:21.15 | GaKkGaKk | hrw: Of course it will, but if we want too boot open source, we can :) |
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| 18:23.57 | GaKkGaKk | Anyway, I asked earlier, but I think the GreenPhone stole my question... Does anyone know if the September release of the Neo has any changes to the case planned? Like an internal stylus or such? |
| 18:24.47 | xkr47 | !counter |
| 18:24.49 | xkr47 | counter |
| 18:24.49 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 20:47:35 (13.866 +-13.9 days) (897,166) |
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| 18:27.05 | Rogueist | that wiki entry reads like some of my rambling notes when I've been up working on stuff too long with no sleep - only 50% of it makes sense |
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| 18:30.47 | SuN | GaKkGaKk: There will be no changes in housing." "http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-March/004255.html |
| 18:30.54 | SuN | Doh, misquoted |
| 18:31.05 | SuN | "There will be no changes in housing." http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-March/004255.html |
| 18:31.31 | SuN | Though that doesn't specifically mention September. |
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| 18:33.36 | GaKkGaKk | SuN: Thanks |
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| 18:48.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Main_Page1]] |
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| 19:24.13 | guaqua | making phones isn't as easy as one might think, i guess :) |
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| 20:00.43 | buz | judging by the speed at which some chinese knockoffs appear it doesnt seem terribly hard tho |
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| 20:48.28 | high-rez | counter |
| 20:48.29 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 19:35:45 (13.816 +-13.8 days) (898,166) |
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| 21:06.04 | xkr47 | \o/ |
| 21:06.18 | xkr47 | sad thing moko didn't make it to be my birthday present to myself ;) |
| 21:06.48 | philippe | xkr47: next year moko2 :-) |
| 21:07.45 | stefan_schmidt | xkr47: happy birthday |
| 21:07.50 | xkr47 | thx! |
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| 21:09.24 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: thanks for forgetting your Fosdem speaker gift... I enjoyed it very much last weekend :-) |
| 21:09.48 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: heh, next time. :) |
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| 21:10.41 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: btw, was your hackfest idea about virtual or reality hackfest? |
| 21:11.04 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: virtual would be a start. Real would be more fun. |
| 21:11.31 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: Easiest would be virtual connected local groups. |
| 21:11.41 | philippe | I thought virtual would be the easiest. But thinking of it Germany is not that far :-) |
| 21:12.05 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: And we have *many* OpenMoko Hackers in germany. :) |
| 21:12.23 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: idd... I am the only one in .fi afaik. |
| 21:12.52 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: hmm, just get Nokia to use OpenMoko on some phones in their lab. ;) |
| 21:13.13 | atla | hehe |
| 21:13.22 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: But it's still some time as it makes no sense before P1 are in more dev hands. |
| 21:13.42 | atla | where would a openmoko hackfest be in germany? :) |
| 21:13.59 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: P1 indeed might make more sense yes. |
| 21:14.21 | xkr47 | yeah, send some free openmoko phones to the maemo lab will you :D |
| 21:14.21 | stefan_schmidt | atla: We just spinning ideas... |
| 21:14.28 | atla | me too :D |
| 21:14.44 | stefan_schmidt | xkr47: Maemo team also talked to OpenMoko... |
| 21:14.55 | atla | about? |
| 21:15.09 | stefan_schmidt | xkr47: I guess there could be cooperation in some of the used FOSS software |
| 21:16.04 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: I know a few people here at Nokia who would jump for an OpenMoko :-) |
| 21:16.08 | stefan_schmidt | atla: I wasn't at the meeting. |
| 21:16.16 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: heh |
| 21:16.22 | atla | oh it was personal |
| 21:16.52 | stefan_schmidt | atla: yes, that one are the best. |
| 21:17.59 | philippe | atla: all I know about is that Sean dropped by in Helsinki to talk to some people. |
| 21:18.27 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: I still hope Nokia jumps on the linux on the smartphone train at some point in the future. (Of course I know all this stuff confidental. ;)) |
| 21:18.43 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: IIRC they also had a talk with maemo guys at FOSDEM. |
| 21:19.05 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: At least that was mickeyl and Sean reason for comming late to the pub. :) |
| 21:20.34 | tigert | well, there is a lot of sense in working together in the building blocks level |
| 21:21.09 | tigert | anyway, time to sleep, night! |
| 21:21.21 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: well lets first hope maemo-openmoko works... |
| 21:21.37 | philippe | the rest we will see what happens. |
| 21:22.26 | philippe | And maybe intel will join too. As they have demo-ed their MID (media-internet-something) with a linux base |
| 21:23.11 | tigert | the gui was quite a "mashup" in the web2.0 spirit I must say :) |
| 21:23.17 | tigert | of the intel MID thingy |
| 21:23.26 | tigert | but such are research projects of course |
| 21:23.43 | filippo | and eclipse with dsdp |
| 21:24.03 | filippo | and tool for mobile linux |
| 21:24.54 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: yeah, maemo-openmoko would be a really good start. |
| 21:25.43 | filippo | http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/tml/TmL Creation Review_final.pdf |
| 21:26.07 | koen_ | good morning all |
| 21:26.12 | stefan_schmidt | hi koen_ |
| 21:26.20 | philippe | hey koen_ |
| 21:26.47 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: That would be a reason to free my N770 from the dust. ;) |
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| 21:28.03 | Mandarino | Hiz |
| 21:28.11 | Mandarino | coutner |
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| 21:28.13 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 19:15:53 (13.803 +-13.8 days) (899,166) |
| 21:28.18 | stefan_schmidt | hi Mandarino |
| 21:28.19 | philippe | stefan_schmidt: if it means we could build decent working images for the 770 definitely :-) |
| 21:28.47 | Mandarino | schmidt? Are you related with Eric ? :P |
| 21:28.54 | stefan_schmidt | philippe: definitely |
| 21:29.23 | stefan_schmidt | Mandarino: No. Which Eric you refer to anyway? |
| 21:30.41 | woglinde | hi koen |
| 21:30.43 | Mandarino | Ceo of Google ;) |
| 21:30.48 | koen | hey woglinde |
| 21:31.00 | Mandarino | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_E._Schmidt |
| 21:31.06 | stefan_schmidt | Mandarino: heh, so definitely not. :) |
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| 21:49.44 | koen | mickeyl: marcel is installing the toolchain |
| 21:49.53 | koen | mickeyl: and please update the Packages file :) |
| 21:50.29 | koen | mickeyl: marcel says "I need cvs flex and bison as well" |
| 21:50.37 | koen | "obex would also be nice" |
| 21:52.12 | Armon | Whudda fuck is .bb? |
| 21:52.12 | aloril | Armon: See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ (Hopefully this link answers your question. This autotrigger for new nick and question during first 15 minutes done only once.) |
| 21:52.35 | balrog-kun | bitbake recipy |
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| 22:06.19 | Basheri | sleep--> |
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| 22:07.25 | Basheri | yay, i can sleep for 5.5h |
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| 22:20.18 | koen | mickeyl: could you do 'bitbake task-openmoko-native-sdk task-proper-tools ; bitbake package-index' on the buildhost? |
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| 22:25.49 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:26.01 | mickeyl | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency task-openmoko-native-sdk |
| 22:26.19 | hrw | mickeyl: looks like it is in OE only |
| 22:26.25 | koen | task-openmoko.bb:RDEPENDS_task-openmoko-native-sdk = "\ |
| 22:26.38 | hrw | koen: openmoko != .dev head |
| 22:26.49 | mickeyl | i wonder why that doesn't get picked up |
| 22:26.56 | koen | hrw: I know |
| 22:27.22 | koen | hrw: marcel ran into a zillion bugs that are fixed in .dev |
| 22:27.24 | mickeyl | even bitbake task-openmoko-everything doesn't build all that stuff |
| 22:27.45 | koen | maybe I should just give him an angstrom image :) |
| 22:28.04 | koen | which is loads faster anyways |
| 22:28.25 | koen | (really, it feels way faster) |
| 22:29.14 | hrw | openmoko is faster with clearlooks |
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| 22:30.05 | mickeyl | bitbake task-openmoko-native-sdk works in .dev ? |
| 22:30.57 | mickeyl | well |
| 22:31.02 | mickeyl | i'd like to know about the zillion bugs |
| 22:31.18 | mickeyl | i don't see that much divergence in the openmoko* packagfes |
| 22:31.32 | mickeyl | or are these bugs fixed in other parts of OE? |
| 22:33.06 | mickeyl | fwiw, i have built gcc et. al. in 2007.04 |
| 22:33.14 | mickeyl | just need to update the package indexes |
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| 22:39.24 | aloril | (script) wiki RecentChanges: [[Talk:Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Wish_List_-_Hardware]] [[Wishlist:Games]] [[Wish_List]] |
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| 22:45.02 | hrw | mickeyl: with next update to openmoko/oe please consider moving site.conf to distro configuration... |
| 22:45.14 | koen | mickeyl: other parts of OE |
| 22:45.24 | koen | mickeyl: and bison and flex please |
| 22:45.29 | kmeyer | there we go. |
| 22:45.37 | hrw | NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/db |
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| 22:46.25 | hrw | mickeyl: picocom would be nice too |
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| 22:49.48 | mickeyl | flex and bison is already there |
| 22:49.55 | mickeyl | http://buildhost.openmoko.org/snapshots/2007.04/ipk/armv4t/ |
| 22:50.09 | hrw | http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/18/3rdparty-chargers-for-neo1973/ |
| 22:50.24 | mickeyl | oh wow |
| 22:50.28 | mickeyl | that works? |
| 22:50.31 | hrw | yes |
| 22:50.48 | hrw | depends on value of 'that' ofcourse |
| 22:51.44 | mickeyl | verified that the external charger actually chargesß |
| 22:51.45 | mickeyl | ? |
| 22:53.09 | hrw | it charge |
| 22:53.19 | hrw | its very stupid charger |
| 22:53.51 | koen | mickeyl: package index updated? |
| 22:53.55 | hrw | +/- from nokia charger (standard one) -> battery |
| 22:54.03 | hrw | and let battery take care of overcharge |
| 22:54.21 | mickeyl | koen: ya |
| 22:54.37 | koen | ok, thanks |
| 22:56.12 | mickeyl | hmm |
| 22:56.15 | mickeyl | picocom doesn't build here |
| 22:56.27 | mickeyl | | picocom.c: In function 'parse_args': |
| 22:56.27 | mickeyl | | picocom.c:831: error: 'struct <anonymous>' has no member named 'nolock' |
| 22:56.32 | koen | and gawk and patch and diff and cvs |
| 22:57.26 | hrw | mickeyl: update picocom with OE copy |
| 22:58.22 | hrw | I prefer picocom over cu |
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| 23:01.08 | mickeyl | cvs done |
| 23:01.15 | mickeyl | the others were already there |
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| 23:01.59 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 23:02.22 | koen_ | mickey|zzZZzz: marcel isn't allowing you to go to sleep right now |
| 23:03.43 | mickey|zzZZzz | heh |
| 23:04.05 | hrw | cu all |
| 23:04.06 | mickey|zzZZzz | why don't you fix OE to work on his system? can't be that hard or is it? |
| 23:04.10 | mickey|zzZZzz | :D |
| 23:04.13 | mickey|zzZZzz | cu hrw |
| 23:04.33 | mickey|zzZZzz | dunno what time it is for you ,but it's 1:00 here |
| 23:04.36 | koen_ | mickey|zzZZzz: ubunty feisty... |
| 23:04.42 | koen_ | and the mokomakefile broke |
| 23:04.51 | koen_ | (or rather, haralds kernel patches) |
| 23:05.35 | fledermaus | aloril: help |
| 23:05.36 | aloril | Commands: counter (see estimated time until P1), counter_msg (set message for counter), faq (link to FAQ in wiki) |
| 23:05.41 | fledermaus | aloril: counter |
| 23:05.42 | aloril | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973 P1 guess: a week, 6 days 18:27:09 (13.769 +-13.8 days) (900,166) |
| 23:05.58 | hrw|gone | koen: dash contra bash problem? |
| 23:06.35 | koen_ | dunno |
| 23:07.24 | aloril | (script) planet: Marcin "hrw" Juszkiewicz: 3rdparty chargers for Neo1973 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/04/18/3rdparty-chargers-for-neo1973/ |
| 23:08.02 | koen_ | old mtn + dash + ... + ... + ... |
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| 23:08.27 | koen_ | I love the vernier labquest |
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| 23:11.06 | hrw|gone | koen: it was nice to work on it :D |
| 23:16.52 | balrog-kun | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-April/thread.html is acting strange |
| 23:18.16 | xipietotec | is there a for sure release date for online purchase of the phones yet? |
| 23:18.23 | xipietotec | I don't mean mass market |
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| 23:26.44 | SpeedEvil | no. |
| 23:26.48 | SpeedEvil | :( |
| 23:27.57 | balrog-kun | jserv2: ping |
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