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| 16:55.59 | angelox|laptop | morphis: hi |
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| 17:12.44 | slyon | hi |
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| 17:31.19 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03barklome 07aurora * r5678597eb686 10/aurora-daemon/ (5 files in 3 dirs): aurora-daemon: start tasks app |
| 17:31.20 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03barklome 07aurora * rcf84825a4b03 10/aurora-daemon/runtime/ (application.cpp rootwindow.cpp rootwindow.h): aurora-daemon: implement list of running apps |
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| 18:09.25 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03barklome 07aurora * re14681080fef 10/aurora-daemon/runtime/ (application.cpp application.h rootwindow.cpp rootwindow.h): aurora-daemon: separate running app list from rootWindow |
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| 18:26.03 | morphis | heyho |
| 18:26.27 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07for-release * rd234c4870f8d 10cornucopia/libfsotransport/Makefile.am: |
| 18:26.27 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: libfsotransport: include necessary 3rdparty header files for distribution |
| 18:26.27 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
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| 18:26.30 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: scripts: add scripts to check and bump required libfso-glib version |
| 18:26.30 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
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| 18:26.32 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07for-release * r0b7a0aec71ec 10cornucopia/libfsosystem/ (fsosystem/path.vala tests/testpath.vala): |
| 18:26.34 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: libfsosystem: add vim mode line at end of all vala source files |
| 18:26.35 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
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| 18:27.00 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: libgsm0710mux: change maintainers email address |
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| 18:27.00 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07for-release * r65f4f90c228a 10cornucopia/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 18:27.00 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: libfsosystem: remove integration tests for module and network and integrate them into fsotest |
| 18:27.00 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
| 18:27.00 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07for-release * r602216a031d1 10cornucopia/fsotest/configure.ac: |
| 18:27.01 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: fsotest: require 0.10 version of all relevant FSO components |
| 18:27.01 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: Signed-off-by: Simon Busch <morphis@gravedo.de> |
| 18:27.02 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03morphis 07for-release * rb681503d4136 10cornucopia/RELEASE-TODO: Add list of things we have to do before the 0.10.0 release |
| 18:31.18 | morphis | GNUtoo: ping |
| 18:32.43 | GNUtoo | morphis, pong |
| 18:33.37 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: hi. does uboot on nexus read mmc? i get strange mmc timeouts both on uSD and emmc |
| 18:33.41 | morphis | GNUtoo: you got my message about the linux-bcm3229-firmware package I created? |
| 18:33.58 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], there is no uSD on nexus and no uboot yet |
| 18:34.12 | GNUtoo | which one? the one on IRC, yes I got the IRC message |
| 18:34.23 | morphis | GNUtoo: http://pastie.org/3572369 |
| 18:34.39 | morphis | it's really simple but should copy the firmware files on first boot |
| 18:34.51 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 18:34.53 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: i think you told me you had it running by chainloading? anyway, i wonder what may be the reason since i've enabled regulators |
| 18:35.18 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], I told you that If I were to work on uboot I would not chainload |
| 18:36.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: sorry, i thought you said you didn't like the idea of chainloading but got it booting this way. sorry for misinterpretation |
| 18:36.24 | morphis | GNUtoo: it's a bcm4329, right? |
| 18:37.17 | GNUtoo | morphis, yes |
| 18:38.07 | morphis | and the kernel modules is also known as bcm4329? |
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| 18:38.26 | morphis | yes, ok |
| 18:40.38 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 18:40.46 | GNUtoo | or brcmfmac |
| 18:40.53 | GNUtoo | it's the module that you tried the other day |
| 18:40.58 | GNUtoo | (bcm4329) |
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| 18:54.28 | morphis | angelox|laptop: heyho |
| 18:55.57 | morphis | GNUtoo: what did we decide on the GPS problem for the GTA04 last time we talked about it? |
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| 19:15.44 | GNUtoo | morphis, we decided to add it in oeventsd |
| 19:15.57 | GNUtoo | and that what I was doing right now before eating |
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| 19:41.41 | GNUtoo | morphis, basically I already implemented the trigger/event or whatever it's called for it |
| 19:42.10 | GNUtoo | now I need to implement the "look if GPS is on or off and act accordingly" |
| 19:46.48 | GNUtoo | morgner, how's GTA03A4? |
| 19:46.51 | GNUtoo | oops |
| 19:46.58 | GNUtoo | morgner, how's GTA04A4? |
| 19:47.02 | GNUtoo | oops |
| 19:47.10 | GNUtoo | morphis, how's GTA04A4? |
| 19:47.26 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, how's GTA04A4? |
| 19:47.39 | GNUtoo | I've no A4 but only A3 |
| 19:47.56 | TAsn-Laptop | what's the diff? |
| 19:48.02 | GNUtoo | I wanted to know the A4 status on SHR |
| 19:48.20 | GNUtoo | some bugs fixed and audio routing is different: |
| 19:48.25 | GNUtoo | instead of routing in software |
| 19:48.35 | GNUtoo | the modem PCM is connected to the sound card |
| 19:48.45 | GNUtoo | and of course only the CPU control the paths |
| 19:48.52 | GNUtoo | so that's a lot better |
| 19:48.59 | TAsn-Laptop | the fr was like that too, wasn't it? |
| 19:49.08 | GNUtoo | freerunner is like A4 yes |
| 19:49.25 | GNUtoo | but on A3 the modem is connected to the SOC McBSP port instead |
| 19:49.27 | TAsn-Laptop | barely remembers the good ol' days of the fr :P |
| 19:49.33 | GNUtoo | so the CPU has to do the routing like for n900 |
| 19:50.05 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, how's the gta04 in general? |
| 19:50.20 | GNUtoo | A3 and A4 is very different because of that |
| 19:50.28 | GNUtoo | so I cannot tell in general |
| 19:50.34 | GNUtoo | because that impact it a lot |
| 19:50.38 | GNUtoo | A4 is way better |
| 19:50.46 | TAsn-Laptop | gotcha. |
| 19:51.00 | GNUtoo | A3 is very badly supported by SHR |
| 19:51.08 | GNUtoo | basically SHR is dying |
| 19:51.12 | GNUtoo | we're short of developers |
| 19:51.34 | GNUtoo | and everyone left apart JaMa + me + sometimes there are people that shows up but that's random |
| 19:51.55 | GNUtoo | like foo tell he will be back |
| 19:51.58 | TAsn-Laptop | even mrmoku ? |
| 19:52.04 | GNUtoo | yes he's not back |
| 19:52.07 | TAsn-Laptop | mrmoku, :( |
| 19:52.09 | GNUtoo | he told he will be back |
| 19:52.14 | GNUtoo | he came up here like 2 days |
| 19:52.20 | GNUtoo | and then disapeared again |
| 19:52.22 | TAsn-Laptop | it's hard |
| 19:52.30 | GNUtoo | and I'm about to leave too |
| 19:52.34 | TAsn-Laptop | :( |
| 19:52.35 | GNUtoo | because I hate working alone |
| 19:52.46 | TAsn-Laptop | hehe, I get you. |
| 19:52.50 | GNUtoo | I hate hitting my head against the wall because no one is there |
| 19:52.57 | TAsn-Laptop | I'm currently putting my hopes in tizen |
| 19:53.10 | GNUtoo | you need to come back |
| 19:53.19 | TAsn-Laptop | I don't have much time nowadays |
| 19:53.21 | GNUtoo | tizen won't solve all problems |
| 19:53.28 | TAsn-Laptop | tizen won't even solve half |
| 19:53.33 | TAsn-Laptop | but at least hw will be awesome. |
| 19:53.42 | TAsn-Laptop | and software will be playable |
| 19:54.03 | GNUtoo | yes if you want non-free 3d and everything that depends on it.... |
| 19:54.27 | TAsn-Laptop | you can't win everything in one go |
| 19:54.31 | GNUtoo | nowadays in SHR there is a card-like interface with software composting |
| 19:54.34 | TAsn-Laptop | you have to win war gradually |
| 19:54.50 | GNUtoo | I don't call wining the dependance on non-free 3d |
| 19:55.10 | TAsn-Laptop | neither do I |
| 19:55.17 | GNUtoo | in meego everything was dependant on that |
| 19:55.17 | TAsn-Laptop | but having a full stack open is a good start |
| 19:55.30 | TAsn-Laptop | that's why android was a good start |
| 19:55.30 | GNUtoo | so to be usable you needed to reverse a non-free 3d driver |
| 19:55.35 | TAsn-Laptop | we won that war |
| 19:55.37 | GNUtoo | android can work without 3d |
| 19:55.40 | TAsn-Laptop | everyone know what open source is |
| 19:55.46 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, same as tizen |
| 19:55.53 | TAsn-Laptop | so android was the first win |
| 19:55.55 | GNUtoo | ah ok so tizen may be nice then |
| 19:55.57 | TAsn-Laptop | in that regard |
| 19:56.07 | TAsn-Laptop | now we want to win the "real linux" war |
| 19:56.11 | GNUtoo | you listen too much to geremy alisson |
| 19:56.17 | TAsn-Laptop | or at least that's what I want to win |
| 19:56.22 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, who's that? |
| 19:56.28 | GNUtoo | he said we won and we didn't notice it |
| 19:56.42 | GNUtoo | but when you look deeper |
| 19:56.50 | GNUtoo | you've got a rootkit in your BIOS now |
| 19:56.59 | TAsn-Laptop | ahah, yeah |
| 19:57.01 | TAsn-Laptop | that war we lost |
| 19:57.20 | GNUtoo | in phones for instance qualcomm phones have the sound card attached to the modem |
| 19:57.20 | TAsn-Laptop | that's why I'm trying to win other wars |
| 19:57.28 | GNUtoo | the non-free rils spy a lot |
| 19:57.30 | GNUtoo | etc... |
| 19:57.43 | TAsn-Laptop | I don't use non free crap |
| 19:57.44 | GNUtoo | personally I've coreboot on my desktop |
| 19:58.05 | TAsn-Laptop | I install cyanogenmod on my phones |
| 19:58.14 | GNUtoo | cyanogen has non-free ril |
| 19:58.16 | TAsn-Laptop | to avoid any avoidable proprietary software |
| 19:58.21 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, true actually |
| 19:58.35 | GNUtoo | the non-free ril of the nexus S can read/write all files on your filesystem |
| 19:58.43 | TAsn-Laptop | lol |
| 19:58.53 | GNUtoo | and usually non-free rils also look at cellID to locate you |
| 19:58.56 | GNUtoo | etc... |
| 19:59.17 | TAsn-Laptop | but even with non-free rils |
| 19:59.21 | TAsn-Laptop | you are in a better state |
| 19:59.26 | TAsn-Laptop | then you are with an iphone |
| 19:59.31 | TAsn-Laptop | or a symbian phone |
| 19:59.33 | TAsn-Laptop | or wp7 |
| 19:59.37 | GNUtoo | yes but not than a freerunner |
| 19:59.39 | TAsn-Laptop | so that's a win |
| 19:59.46 | GNUtoo | it's not enough |
| 19:59.54 | TAsn-Laptop | but the free runner has a lot of "loses" |
| 19:59.58 | TAsn-Laptop | of course |
| 20:00.00 | TAsn-Laptop | I bought a free runner |
| 20:00.05 | TAsn-Laptop | because I believe that's the future |
| 20:00.11 | TAsn-Laptop | or at least |
| 20:00.13 | GNUtoo | basically imagine you want to revolt now and they shut down your revolution because of that |
| 20:00.14 | TAsn-Laptop | the future I want to see |
| 20:00.28 | TAsn-Laptop | I know |
| 20:00.29 | GNUtoo | we need to get rid of that kind of control and we need it as soon as possible |
| 20:00.33 | TAsn-Laptop | I know |
| 20:00.39 | TAsn-Laptop | that's why I bought an fr |
| 20:00.41 | TAsn-Laptop | to support the company |
| 20:00.41 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: what about non-free firmwares in wlan/bt/wimax eeprom? my opinion on free software is that we can't have free sw everywhere until we have free hardware and all datasheets.. as for shr, my opinion is that it'd be better to properly integrate fso stack to ubuntu/debian (make nightly packages) and have a standalone gtk/qt4 dialer so that we can use any WM |
| 20:00.44 | GNUtoo | because we cannot trust the people who govern us anymore |
| 20:00.57 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, when could we? |
| 20:01.12 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, so yes |
| 20:01.17 | TAsn-Laptop | I know the goals I'm aiming for |
| 20:01.25 | TAsn-Laptop | and I'm doing it one step at a time |
| 20:01.35 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], the firmwares run in a separate CPU....so it should be considered differently |
| 20:01.46 | TAsn-Laptop | I haven't noticed any evilness in the tizen internals |
| 20:01.50 | GNUtoo | for instance in the case of the baseband I'm very interested in replacing it |
| 20:01.56 | TAsn-Laptop | and that's a good start |
| 20:02.00 | TAsn-Laptop | that + real linux |
| 20:02.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: but nearly all peripherals can have access to DMA.. |
| 20:02.10 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, now, if you want to install it on the 04 |
| 20:02.11 | GNUtoo | ah ok |
| 20:02.11 | TAsn-Laptop | you can |
| 20:02.14 | TAsn-Laptop | just change stuff |
| 20:02.15 | antrik | GNUtoo: well, talking pessimism won't help. if anything, it only discourages people from working on SHR |
| 20:02.18 | TAsn-Laptop | change the closed parts |
| 20:02.47 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], I was afraid of denial of services from the modem, specially if it has access to some PMU |
| 20:02.49 | TAsn-Laptop | and compile it to work on the 04 |
| 20:02.51 | TAsn-Laptop | you can do that |
| 20:02.56 | TAsn-Laptop | because it's standard linux |
| 20:02.59 | TAsn-Laptop | and that's a huge win |
| 20:03.08 | TAsn-Laptop | you'll have a tizen compatible phone |
| 20:03.09 | misc | a huge win95 ? |
| 20:03.17 | TAsn-Laptop | misc, :) |
| 20:03.18 | GNUtoo | antrik, I work on SHR, coreboot, nuttx for osmocom-bb etc....I try as hard as possible to get freedom |
| 20:03.40 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, I'd love to be free as possible |
| 20:04.03 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], so on a freerunner what could access DMA exactly? |
| 20:04.05 | TAsn-Laptop | but our interests clash with the ones of the people who produce our hw |
| 20:04.21 | antrik | GNUtoo: I mean the earlier whining about SHR dying :-) |
| 20:04.23 | GNUtoo | TAsn-Laptop, depends who, not gta04 people |
| 20:04.32 | antrik | that doesn't do any good |
| 20:04.41 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, because they are *you* |
| 20:04.42 | GNUtoo | antrik, it's a reality, the other day nschle85 PM-ed me because of that |
| 20:04.43 | TAsn-Laptop | not really you |
| 20:04.46 | TAsn-Laptop | but you-like |
| 20:04.50 | TAsn-Laptop | but they are not the hw vendors |
| 20:04.50 | TAsn-Laptop | :) |
| 20:04.54 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: graphics accelerator [ok, it doesn't have radio] for sure. probably nothing else since modem is usb |
| 20:04.57 | TAsn-Laptop | which are pushed by the content vendors |
| 20:04.59 | TAsn-Laptop | who want drm |
| 20:05.01 | TAsn-Laptop | and locked stuff |
| 20:05.05 | TAsn-Laptop | you can't win at this atm |
| 20:05.06 | GNUtoo | ok so by hardware vendors you mean SOC vendors and peripherals etc.... |
| 20:05.23 | TAsn-Laptop | you'd have to make others want the same freedoms you want |
| 20:05.32 | TAsn-Laptop | how do you make that? you should them life on your side is better |
| 20:05.36 | TAsn-Laptop | and it is. |
| 20:05.39 | TAsn-Laptop | android showed that |
| 20:05.44 | TAsn-Laptop | tizen will hopefully show that |
| 20:05.46 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], ah ok you were responding for gta04, imagine I run the GTA02 instead with a free modem code..... |
| 20:05.56 | antrik | GNUtoo: it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. the more you talk about SHR dying, the more you make it so |
| 20:06.15 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, I can't promise anything |
| 20:06.18 | GNUtoo | antrik, do you have any other idea to get the devs backs? |
| 20:06.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: i have an idea |
| 20:06.34 | TAsn-Laptop | but maybe, once we get the elev8 (js for efl) up and running |
| 20:06.43 | TAsn-Laptop | I'll start hacking on shr again |
| 20:06.49 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, I actually wanted to the other day |
| 20:06.55 | TAsn-Laptop | but my gta02 didn't boot |
| 20:07.00 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: push FSO stack to ubuntu. many devices need good power management and sensors capabilities handled by it. and since ubuntu is going to make a phone distro, that may be a chance |
| 20:07.07 | TAsn-Laptop | I tried a couple of times, but I get something is wrong. |
| 20:07.33 | GNUtoo | antrik, btw did you publish your work for the forwarder for gta02 earpiece(like on openmoko wiki) |
| 20:08.25 | GNUtoo | morphis, what do you think of Alex[sp3dev] idea? |
| 20:08.40 | Alex[sp3dev] | SHR itself is not interesting to many people because common distros like ubuntu/fedora and gentoo have more packages. what people really want is that they can just have a metapackage which will install a finger-friendly WM so that they can untar rootfs to any device without having to add machine-specific recipes |
| 20:09.02 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], shr is not interesting enough because the UI sucks. |
| 20:09.05 | TAsn-Laptop | :) |
| 20:09.12 | TAsn-Laptop | and the ui sucks |
| 20:09.13 | antrik | GNUtoo: no... I'm being a lazy bum as usual :-( |
| 20:09.18 | GNUtoo | no, it's because no SHR phone is usable yet |
| 20:09.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | TAsn-Laptop: there's no alternative which would not require opengl |
| 20:09.25 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, that's why the ui sucks |
| 20:09.27 | TAsn-Laptop | :) |
| 20:09.29 | GNUtoo | gta02 is unreliable: suspend problem |
| 20:09.32 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], sure there is |
| 20:09.37 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], EFL works just fine without gl |
| 20:09.39 | GNUtoo | other phones are WIP |
| 20:09.48 | TAsn-Laptop | just on less than *awful* hardware |
| 20:09.57 | GNUtoo | altough crespo could be ready sooner than the other |
| 20:10.06 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], I've tried efl on an old samsung phone (we actually demonstrated at cebit) |
| 20:10.08 | Alex[sp3dev] | TAsn-Laptop: i think a standalone dialer would be cool. so that you can have gnome shell, gpe or any other wm |
| 20:10.09 | TAsn-Laptop | with sw rendering |
| 20:10.13 | TAsn-Laptop | a year ago |
| 20:10.26 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], we already have a standalone dialer |
| 20:10.27 | TAsn-Laptop | ... |
| 20:10.36 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], we have software compositing in efl and we even have elfe that has a palm-pre card-like interface |
| 20:10.53 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], all the shr apps are standalone |
| 20:11.02 | antrik | Alex[sp3dev]: what exactly do you mean by "standalone"?... |
| 20:11.22 | Alex[sp3dev] | antrik, TAsn-Laptop: ok, i thought SHR dialer depends on WM |
| 20:11.23 | GNUtoo | he means without shr daemon I guess |
| 20:11.28 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], nopes. |
| 20:11.37 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, no, he meant without e17 |
| 20:11.41 | TAsn-Laptop | and it doesn't depend on e17 |
| 20:11.42 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:11.52 | TAsn-Laptop | "so that you can have gnome shell, gpe or any other wm" |
| 20:11.53 | TAsn-Laptop | :( |
| 20:11.55 | TAsn-Laptop | :) |
| 20:12.02 | GNUtoo | or xfce46 |
| 20:12.23 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, I believe that whatever future open source phone |
| 20:12.26 | TAsn-Laptop | should rely on efl |
| 20:12.30 | TAsn-Laptop | so I'm working on that |
| 20:12.37 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:12.41 | TAsn-Laptop | that's how I got into efl in the first place |
| 20:12.54 | TAsn-Laptop | tried to make it better for our uses in shr |
| 20:12.57 | TAsn-Laptop | and it is getting better |
| 20:12.59 | TAsn-Laptop | all the time |
| 20:13.08 | TAsn-Laptop | and jama and others are making OE better |
| 20:13.12 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 20:13.24 | GNUtoo | but if I quit we are in huge trouble |
| 20:13.29 | TAsn-Laptop | that's true |
| 20:13.35 | GNUtoo | and I need other devs to work with me |
| 20:13.39 | GNUtoo | not to quit |
| 20:13.47 | TAsn-Laptop | and [Rui] is using an FR which is admirable. :) |
| 20:13.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | I haven't used SHR much but some things that i didn't like are. 1. menus - too small. i think it would be cool to use softkeys like in qtopia to actiate menu 2. keyboard doesn't pop up on text edit fields (or is it configurable?) and 3. some apps like notes and file browser dialogs have a lot of controls but they are too tiny and text doesn't fit |
| 20:13.54 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, we can hire you a babysitter ;P |
| 20:14.12 | lindi- | GNUtoo: gta02 is not really unreliable as long as you use 2.6.34 |
| 20:14.13 | TAsn-Laptop | 1. don't know what you are talking about. |
| 20:14.16 | TAsn-Laptop | 2. wrong. |
| 20:14.23 | TAsn-Laptop | 3. yeah. |
| 20:14.40 | TAsn-Laptop | lindi-, true, I've used it as my phone for a long time, and [Rui] still uses it. :) |
| 20:14.58 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], 1) did you add the DPI ? |
| 20:15.01 | antrik | talking about OE... some OE guy at FOSDEM told me that just as with scratchbox, it's possible to distribute prebuilt packages for crosscompilation, so one could just install the prebuilt dependencies and build only the part one needs, instead of having to build the whole fucking thing each time... why doesn't SHR make use of that possibility? |
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| 20:15.18 | GNUtoo | TAsn-Laptop, unless the babysitter works on SHR too I guess that would not be very usefull |
| 20:15.29 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, haha :P |
| 20:15.33 | Alex[sp3dev] | TAsn-Laptop: compare http://www.winmobiletech.com/092007MidletBible/JblendMain3D.png and http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3133/pdfbmp.png . in the first case, the menu can also be activated by a hardware button |
| 20:15.39 | GNUtoo | what I need is more devs |
| 20:15.59 | GNUtoo | because the work to do is huge |
| 20:16.04 | TAsn-Laptop | Alex[sp3dev], those menus are reasonably sized |
| 20:16.13 | TAsn-Laptop | I've made them that size |
| 20:16.16 | GNUtoo | and I'm already involved in too much projects |
| 20:16.30 | TAsn-Laptop | because I thought that's a good enough compromise between finger size and screen estate |
| 20:16.33 | GNUtoo | which is a problem because that can create a burn out |
| 20:16.34 | TAsn-Laptop | you can change the gtk theme |
| 20:16.39 | TAsn-Laptop | if you disagree |
| 20:16.46 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, yep. |
| 20:16.59 | GNUtoo | it's just a mather of time |
| 20:17.11 | GNUtoo | the question is how much time will I stand before it arrives? |
| 20:17.49 | antrik | Alex[sp3dev]: keyboard popping up used to work in the past... |
| 20:19.38 | Alex[sp3dev] | TAsn-Laptop: ok, that's not a major issue. I personally would love to have FSO but my old phone (xperia x1 which is a wvga version of dream) is too slow and I haven't finished porting uboot to sgs2 and without it I cannot dual-boot. I don't have much experience with building ubuntu packages but if you find my idea good I may try making packages for nightly fso |
| 20:20.08 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], I think morphis had the same idea |
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| 20:20.48 | TAsn-Laptop | which reminds me |
| 20:20.56 | TAsn-Laptop | I should probably install it on my sgs |
| 20:21.04 | Alex[sp3dev] | sgs1? |
| 20:21.09 | TAsn-Laptop | yeah |
| 20:21.16 | antrik | Alex[sp3dev]: Dream shouldn't be too slow for running SHR... |
| 20:21.17 | TAsn-Laptop | I remember someone told me it's possible |
| 20:21.31 | GNUtoo | TAsn-Laptop, talk to paulk-desktop for sgs1 modem support |
| 20:21.47 | TAsn-Laptop | I don't even mind using it as a tablet |
| 20:21.57 | Alex[sp3dev] | antrik: yes, it is quite bearable. but I bought sgs2 with the sole purpose of getting it running ubuntu with working telephony ;) |
| 20:22.00 | GNUtoo | antrik, Alex[sp3dev] dream has been abandoned (no more interest in it from me) |
| 20:22.25 | antrik | Alex[sp3dev]: BTW, are you aware that there is some (partial) FSO packaging in Debian? |
| 20:22.34 | paulk-desktop | sgs1 modem support should even already be in SHR, in theory |
| 20:22.44 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:22.56 | GNUtoo | so the best way is to try it |
| 20:23.02 | paulk-desktop | except for data I think |
| 20:23.08 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 20:23.13 | Alex[sp3dev] | antrik: yes, but last time i checked last year it was outdated and there were some problems with dependencies. but we can likely reuse them |
| 20:26.18 | randomguylurking | GNUtoo, I come lurking here and there and know what you did. obviously you did put lot of work in shr and I like to praise you... but it still sucks because nothing seems to have been finised and everything came crumbling down. It is not your fault, well you might could have finished one thing... but this half done attitude seems to be default in arm-linux world. |
| 20:28.03 | randomguylurking | it's not a personal critique, even when it somehow sounds like it. it's more a gerneral "beeing pissed with everything and everone". |
| 20:28.46 | GNUtoo | randomguylurking, It was good strategically to drop some devices |
| 20:28.59 | GNUtoo | that improved the other devices support |
| 20:29.09 | GNUtoo | it was just too much to have that much devices |
| 20:29.15 | GNUtoo | and some devices were not worth |
| 20:29.18 | GNUtoo | like the htcdream |
| 20:29.26 | GNUtoo | even if it was finished |
| 20:31.55 | antrik | I don't think the majority of potential users agrees that Dream is not worth it... |
| 20:33.03 | randomguylurking | GNUtoo, Yes and No. I am a n900 owner. It seems to be the best upstream supported mobile phone.... and still the only thing it runs is maemo. I am getting pretty paranoid here, because nobody finished thing here. It doesn't matter which distro. Nemo, SHR, Nitdroid, Ubuntu.... |
| 20:33.52 | GNUtoo | randomguylurking, I wanted to get the n900 finished, but I cannot do everything..... |
| 20:34.03 | GNUtoo | I'm one person only and there is only 24h/day |
| 20:34.14 | GNUtoo | so I tried as hard as possible to get involved other devs in it |
| 20:34.21 | GNUtoo | but not one wanted to do it |
| 20:34.42 | TAsn-Laptop | GNUtoo, the 24h/day limitation is not really an interesting one |
| 20:34.48 | TAsn-Laptop | the real problem |
| 20:34.50 | TAsn-Laptop | is day jobs |
| 20:35.38 | TAsn-Laptop | I could have done magic if I didn't have a day job... :) |
| 20:37.39 | randomguylurking | GNUtoo, yes I understand that and I didn't intend to pressure you. It more to it, and you are not the only Developer that got hands on this device.... still there is only little, very little progress on this device. and most of the owner seem contend with this nokia-monster maemo. (monster, because when I insert a sim its telling nokia I use this phone and I could never get used to this) |
| 20:38.35 | GNUtoo | randomguylurking, what are your skills? |
| 20:38.55 | GNUtoo | because to get usable the main problem right now for n900 is the sound quality for the remote person |
| 20:39.15 | GNUtoo | mrmoku, didn't finish his work on it |
| 20:39.49 | randomguylurking | GNUtoo, to bitch about everything and tell the world is about to end. // no, shr segfaults on n900 like crazy. |
| 20:40.09 | GNUtoo | what image? |
| 20:40.12 | GNUtoo | maybe bugreport |
| 20:40.28 | GNUtoo | some stuff is known to segfault with the lastest images tough |
| 20:40.30 | randomguylurking | Nah, it's only you now anyway. |
| 20:40.41 | GNUtoo | like midori, eve, firefox |
| 20:40.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | yay. uboot can finally read emmc on sgs2. a dirty hack to lower clock frequency saved the day |
| 20:40.58 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], nice |
| 20:41.49 | Alex[sp3dev] | no microsd, though. which is not so nice |
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| 20:46.16 | randomguylurking | n900 sefaults pretty much everywhere and randomly. but nemo or ubuntu are not better at all. the only distro that runs nearly stable (next to maemo) on n900 is archlinux but there is no good touchscreen interface and there is no phone funktionality. |
| 20:46.40 | GNUtoo | randomguylurking, did you overclock? |
| 20:46.44 | GNUtoo | like in the past |
| 20:46.48 | GNUtoo | or currently |
| 20:47.34 | GNUtoo | because on my n900 I guess that only the browsers and software that is known to segfault segfaults |
| 20:47.43 | GNUtoo | I can retest if you want |
| 20:49.17 | randomguylurking | GNUtoo: nah, don't bother. |
| 20:49.47 | GNUtoo | randomguylurking, your problem really seems like the result of overclocking |
| 20:54.14 | randomguylurking | GNUtoo: look, my device is ok. It's the software that sucks. or can you explain why maemo doesn't segfault, archlinux nearly never, shr all the time and nemo whenerver wifi is in action. |
| 20:59.29 | randomguylurking | ah whatever, I don't ever care anymore. I had my hopes for armlinux but wherever I look things make me mad. the n900 is my third arm device and "best kernel supported" doesn't mean shit. one the second thought also x86 linux sucks more and more. |
| 21:00.57 | pespin | still alive, busy with new eflvala stuff + apps aupgrade though ;) |
| 21:01.06 | Alex[sp3dev] | so we lost linux to poettering with systemd and gnome with *Kits? |
| 21:01.54 | CIA-19 | freesmartphone.org: 03barklome 07aurora * r69b18ee3f69b 10/aurora-daemon/ (3 files in 2 dirs): aurora-daemon: rework task switcher |
| 21:02.00 | pespin | I'll need testers for eflvala apps working with newer eflvala running in SHR soon ;) |
| 21:02.03 | randomguylurking | anyway, my day sucks and now I am going to get drunk. |
| 21:02.27 | pespin | as I'm finishing upgrading them ,but probably some reference-kind bug will appear which makes them crash ;) |
| 21:06.51 | angelox|laptop | GNUtoo: hi |
| 21:07.20 | pespin | GNUtoo, how do I rebase my neweflvala branch on top of new master? |
| 21:07.39 | pespin | git checkout neweflvala; git rebase master ? |
| 21:07.57 | pespin | loves being git noob |
| 21:08.12 | GNUtoo | pespin, hi |
| 21:08.15 | GNUtoo | angelox|laptop, hi |
| 21:08.22 | GNUtoo | pespin, git rebase origin/master |
| 21:08.36 | GNUtoo | while beeing on neweflvala branch |
| 21:08.53 | GNUtoo | a good idea is to use -b when checkout a new branch |
| 21:09.03 | pespin | what does that do? |
| 21:09.18 | angelox|laptop | GNUtoo: there is some way of editing an program's code in OE then compile and build it fastly? "without needing pack and then do_clean do_build" |
| 21:09.24 | GNUtoo | git checkout newevlvala is a local branch? |
| 21:09.50 | GNUtoo | angelox|laptop, checkout morphis's devshell in morphis's meta-staging |
| 21:10.01 | pespin | I reated it locally and pushed to git.shr-project.org |
| 21:10.38 | pespin | well, it seems I pushed it to git-shr-project.org master lol |
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| 21:11.41 | angelox|laptop | GNUtoo: sry, where is that? |
| 21:12.05 | pespin | ah no, I think I did it correctly :P |
| 21:13.04 | GNUtoo | angelox|laptop, something that you bitbake and that you source |
| 21:14.33 | angelox|laptop | GNUtoo: i meant, where can i get that branch you said (morphis's meta-staging) |
| 21:16.04 | pespin | another little noob git question. If I'm in master and I want to clone the origin's neweflvala branch into my local git repo in my neweflvala branch, what do I need to do? |
| 21:16.30 | pespin | git branch neweflvala; git checkout neweflvala; git pull origin neweflvala; ? |
| 21:17.08 | GNUtoo | pespin, git checkout origin/newefvala -b newevlvala |
| 21:17.23 | pespin | ah that's what the -b is about :P |
| 21:17.27 | GNUtoo | git checkout checks out something |
| 21:17.32 | GNUtoo | and -b creates a branch |
| 21:17.39 | GNUtoo | a local branch.... |
| 21:18.19 | pespin | nice, thanks :) |
| 21:18.20 | GNUtoo | dos1, hi |
| 21:18.24 | GNUtoo | what does that does: |
| 21:18.30 | GNUtoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.36 | dos1 | GNUtoo: hi |
| 21:18.40 | GNUtoo | in fso_actions.py |
| 21:18.48 | dos1 | GNUtoo: what you mean by "does"? |
| 21:18.49 | GNUtoo | in frameworkd |
| 21:19.00 | GNUtoo | what's its goal? |
| 21:19.03 | dos1 | what this function does, or this line, or **kargs? |
| 21:19.09 | GNUtoo | the function |
| 21:19.16 | dos1 | lemmie check |
| 21:19.25 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: **kargs is a keyworded arguments list |
| 21:19.29 | Alex[sp3dev] | like, a hash table |
| 21:19.33 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], I know.... |
| 21:19.46 | GNUtoo | the problem is that trigger doesn't seem to be called |
| 21:19.54 | GNUtoo | I've that: |
| 21:20.05 | GNUtoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.10 | GNUtoo | filters: HasAttr(resource,"GPS") |
| 21:20.17 | GNUtoo | actions: HandleGTA04GPS() |
| 21:20.26 | GNUtoo | the trigger is in HandleGTA04GPS() |
| 21:20.51 | GNUtoo | altough the __init__ is called |
| 21:21.30 | morphis | angelox|laptop: https://github.com/morphis/meta-staging |
| 21:22.02 | GNUtoo | morphis, did you get my responses? |
| 21:22.17 | GNUtoo | <morphis> GNUtoo: what did we decide on the GPS problem for the GTA04 last time we talked about it? |
| 21:22.21 | GNUtoo | <GNUtoo> morphis, we decided to add it in oeventsd |
| 21:22.54 | GNUtoo | and I'm finishing it right now |
| 21:23.24 | morphis | GNUtoo: ok |
| 21:23.58 | GNUtoo | hopes that morphis didn't change his mind and that GNUtoo shouldn't have to restart implementing it from scratch |
| 21:24.09 | angelox|laptop | morphis: thanks |
| 21:26.12 | angelox|laptop | GNUtoo: should i clone that and just bitbake devshell? |
| 21:26.21 | GNUtoo | you should clone it |
| 21:26.34 | GNUtoo | then you should add it to your layers |
| 21:26.42 | GNUtoo | and then bitbake the devshell |
| 21:28.31 | angelox|laptop | GNUtoo: ok, i'll try and sry noob questions |
| 21:28.40 | GNUtoo | ok, np |
| 21:31.44 | GNUtoo | dos1, did you find something? |
| 21:34.32 | dos1 | GNUtoo: well, if i understand it correctly it should get called whenever ResourceState() somehow changes with HasAttr(resource,"GPS") |
| 21:34.45 | dos1 | are you sure this rule works with some other action? |
| 21:34.50 | GNUtoo | yes it does |
| 21:35.02 | GNUtoo | I added a Command('echo foo') |
| 21:35.05 | GNUtoo | and it prints foo |
| 21:37.40 | dos1 | and it's for sure not called at all with your action? |
| 21:37.46 | GNUtoo | with actions: Command('echo foo') it works |
| 21:37.59 | GNUtoo | but if I add HandleGTA04GPS it fails |
| 21:38.09 | GNUtoo | it doesn't print anything |
| 21:38.15 | GNUtoo | so I guess it's not called |
| 21:40.07 | morphis | GNUtoo: no I will not |
| 21:40.14 | dos1 | do you have any logger in HandleGTA04GPS? |
| 21:40.15 | dos1 | and also |
| 21:40.24 | dos1 | could you check logs from frameworkd initialization |
| 21:40.28 | dos1 | when rules are parsed? |
| 21:40.40 | dos1 | maybe your action is not registered properly |
| 21:41.31 | GNUtoo | possible |
| 21:41.46 | GNUtoo | because if I've 1 action (Command) it works |
| 21:42.04 | GNUtoo | but when I add HandleGTA04GPS init of gta04 gps prints somehting |
| 21:42.16 | GNUtoo | but even command stop working |
| 21:42.49 | GNUtoo | no logger |
| 21:42.51 | GNUtoo | only prints |
| 21:42.58 | GNUtoo | which prints to stdout |
| 21:43.04 | GNUtoo | test1 |
| 21:43.06 | GNUtoo | like that |
| 21:43.09 | GNUtoo | oops |
| 21:43.20 | GNUtoo | # frameworkd |
| 21:43.20 | GNUtoo | test1 |
| 21:44.30 | GNUtoo | wait a second |
| 21:44.34 | GNUtoo | I forgott super() |
| 21:44.44 | morphis | GNUtoo: HandleGTA04GPS is a command? |
| 21:44.56 | morphis | in oeventsd? |
| 21:45.06 | GNUtoo | yes I'm adding it right now |
| 21:45.40 | morphis | why a command not just an additional python script you execute with system(..)? |
| 21:46.02 | GNUtoo | I mean it's an Action to be more exact |
| 21:46.15 | morphis | actions: Command("/usr/bin/tsmd_control enable") |
| 21:46.18 | morphis | like this |
| 21:46.34 | GNUtoo | but then how to do enable or disable? |
| 21:46.46 | morphis | http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/oevents/palmpre/rules.yaml;h=da53035da4831bc804c57f16f3db51bb201979a1;hb=HEAD |
| 21:46.50 | GNUtoo | command would be that: |
| 21:46.52 | morphis | two different rules |
| 21:46.58 | GNUtoo | /usr/bin/tsmd |
| 21:47.15 | GNUtoo | ahh sorry |
| 21:48.00 | GNUtoo | hmmm |
| 21:48.13 | morphis | that way we don't add device specific code to oeventsd |
| 21:48.23 | GNUtoo | mickeyl, prefered the always-integrated stuff |
| 21:48.39 | GNUtoo | *always preferred |
| 21:48.48 | morphis | :) |
| 21:48.53 | GNUtoo | he didn't express any opinion on that particular mather |
| 21:48.54 | morphis | you asked mickeyl about this problem? |
| 21:49.00 | GNUtoo | but usually he prefers that |
| 21:49.21 | GNUtoo | I mean with htcdream I wanted to calls commands for the GPS |
| 21:49.32 | GNUtoo | and I had to do a fsodtldt plugin instead |
| 21:49.34 | GNUtoo | etc... |
| 21:49.45 | GNUtoo | same for audio routing for gta04 |
| 21:49.55 | GNUtoo | he always was against external commands |
| 21:50.27 | morphis | in this case we're only abstracting things |
| 21:51.28 | GNUtoo | so what should I do then? |
| 21:51.46 | GNUtoo | I rewrite that python thing in vala or in C? |
| 21:51.48 | morphis | add an extra script |
| 21:51.58 | morphis | no do it in python as you already did |
| 21:52.02 | morphis | should be easy |
| 21:52.04 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:52.17 | GNUtoo | so then how to add it in oe? |
| 21:52.18 | morphis | but lets have it separated from the oeventsd core |
| 21:52.28 | GNUtoo | EXTRA_MACHINE_RRECOMMANDS? |
| 21:52.37 | GNUtoo | which will make python mandatory for every image? |
| 21:52.47 | morphis | thats what we have device specific utilities for |
| 21:52.57 | morphis | it's already for SHR images |
| 21:53.04 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 21:53.12 | morphis | hm |
| 21:53.12 | GNUtoo | but for instance aurora images |
| 21:53.32 | GNUtoo | which has no python in it |
| 21:53.42 | pespin | going to have dinner, will push all eflvala changes to E svn after dinner. |
| 21:53.43 | GNUtoo | and indeed how to handle GPS in aurora |
| 21:53.49 | GNUtoo | that's a good quesiton |
| 21:53.50 | morphis | EXTRA_MACHINE_RRECOMMANDS is not the right place, yes |
| 21:53.58 | morphis | GNUtoo: don't think about aurora |
| 21:54.04 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:54.05 | morphis | think about different images |
| 21:54.22 | GNUtoo | no I mean something different: |
| 21:54.29 | GNUtoo | if I add support to rules.yaml |
| 21:54.36 | GNUtoo | it won't work on aurora |
| 21:54.40 | GNUtoo | because that's frameworkd |
| 21:54.46 | GNUtoo | which isn't in aurora |
| 21:55.01 | GNUtoo | and GPS is crucial for suspend |
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| 21:55.35 | morphis | do we have a *-conf package for each machine for frameworkd? |
| 21:56.06 | GNUtoo | I think so |
| 21:56.21 | GNUtoo | frameworkd-config - 1:0.9.5.9+gitr1+8713309e9e7fe3314e2eaf571c84f6b51aefaf2b-r20 |
| 21:56.28 | morphis | GNUtoo: if we're thinking a fso-only way we expect frameworkd on every image which is using fso |
| 21:57.06 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:57.13 | GNUtoo | so aurora will ship frameworkd now? |
| 21:57.18 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:57.21 | morphis | don't know |
| 21:57.32 | GNUtoo | hmmm |
| 21:57.40 | morphis | but every image which will use FSO on the gta04 should |
| 21:57.45 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:57.48 | morphis | as it's now a runtime dependency |
| 21:57.50 | GNUtoo | what's left in frameworkd? |
| 21:57.53 | GNUtoo | opimd? |
| 21:57.55 | morphis | otherwise suspend will not work |
| 21:57.58 | morphis | and oeventsd |
| 21:57.59 | GNUtoo | oeventsd? |
| 21:58.00 | morphis | nothing more |
| 21:58.01 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:58.17 | morphis | GNUtoo: about the OE issue we should talk with JaMa |
| 21:58.18 | GNUtoo | and both are hard to rewrite in vala? |
| 21:58.26 | GNUtoo | yes |
| 21:58.26 | morphis | he should now best what to do here |
| 21:58.36 | GNUtoo | anyway I've to submit him my gpsd 3.4 recipe |
| 21:58.37 | morphis | GNUtoo: it takes time |
| 21:58.42 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:59.03 | morphis | and nobody has the time |
| 21:59.15 | GNUtoo | yes if we had 1 more dev.... |
| 21:59.28 | morphis | (opimd is superfluous anyway I think) |
| 21:59.35 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 21:59.42 | GNUtoo | could SHR work without opimd? |
| 21:59.55 | morphis | GNUtoo: don't know |
| 21:59.58 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 22:00.10 | GNUtoo | it's too bad we don't have the time |
| 22:00.17 | GNUtoo | because there are only 2 lefts.... |
| 22:00.47 | GNUtoo | anyway better spend the time somewhere else |
| 22:01.06 | angelox|laptop | morphis: how should i get a hardware-key press event and send it to aurora-daemon? what is the best way |
| 22:01.31 | morphis | angelox|laptop: you mean listening for a hardware key press? |
| 22:01.43 | angelox|laptop | morphis: yes |
| 22:01.49 | morphis | which one? |
| 22:01.50 | GNUtoo | morphis, or I could make a vala dbus daemon for the GPS handler |
| 22:02.19 | GNUtoo | maybe in vala |
| 22:02.20 | morphis | GNUtoo: is it necessary to have a statefull daemon? |
| 22:02.20 | angelox|laptop | morphis: power button, i want to set it to open the task switcher (is already working) |
| 22:02.30 | GNUtoo | yes of course |
| 22:02.33 | GNUtoo | it's necessary |
| 22:02.39 | GNUtoo | ah no |
| 22:02.44 | GNUtoo | not nessary sorry |
| 22:02.54 | GNUtoo | if you read each time the GPS input |
| 22:02.57 | GNUtoo | it's not necessary |
| 22:03.03 | GNUtoo | to findout you : |
| 22:03.07 | GNUtoo | 1) read the GPS |
| 22:03.07 | morphis | angelox|laptop: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Input.html;hb=HEAD |
| 22:03.13 | GNUtoo | 2) issue or not a sysfs command |
| 22:03.28 | morphis | angelox|laptop: you should listen for the org.freesmartphone.Device.Input.Event signal |
| 22:03.51 | morphis | angelox|laptop: the name of the power key will always be POWER on every device |
| 22:04.12 | GNUtoo | so no dbus |
| 22:04.12 | morphis | GNUtoo: so only a simple script should be enough |
| 22:04.14 | GNUtoo | only commands |
| 22:04.16 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 22:04.16 | morphis | GNUtoo: yes |
| 22:04.26 | GNUtoo | I'll do it in python for now then |
| 22:04.29 | morphis | GNUtoo: and add it to the utilities |
| 22:04.35 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 22:04.35 | morphis | GNUtoo: should be the easiest way |
| 22:04.42 | angelox|laptop | morphis: hmm ok |
| 22:04.58 | morphis | GNUtoo: and about the OE problem JaMa should now the best way I hope :) |
| 22:05.16 | morphis | angelox|laptop: it's the best way to do that platform-independent |
| 22:05.37 | morphis | angelox|laptop: you can add a simple QML component for that |
| 22:06.28 | angelox|laptop | morphis: but with qml component will it work in every app? |
| 22:07.13 | morphis | angelox|laptop: it should |
| 22:07.28 | morphis | angelox|laptop: but don't create the dbus connection for each component instance |
| 22:07.35 | morphis | share the instance between all component instances |
| 22:08.06 | angelox|laptop | hmm |
| 22:08.48 | morphis | angelox|laptop: you know what I mean? |
| 22:09.10 | angelox|laptop | not 100% :P |
| 22:09.19 | angelox|laptop | sorry |
| 22:10.11 | morphis | class EventComponent { |
| 22:10.13 | morphis | private: |
| 22:10.23 | morphis | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.25 | morphis | }; |
| 22:10.48 | morphis | everytime you create new object of class EventComponent you will have the same QFsoEventListener instance |
| 22:11.04 | morphis | so you don't have ten dbus connections when you use the component ten times |
| 22:11.11 | morphis | I have to leave now |
| 22:11.14 | morphis | good night boys |
| 22:11.15 | angelox|laptop | ok i see |
| 22:11.20 | angelox|laptop | good night morgner |
| 22:11.26 | angelox|laptop | morphis* |
| 22:13.01 | angelox|laptop | Alex[sp3dev]: does the SGS2's battery charges when plugged to usb when using your kernel? |
| 22:17.46 | Alex[sp3dev] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.58 | Alex[sp3dev] | angelox|laptop: i will add that stuff later. debugging uboot now |
| 22:18.19 | angelox|laptop | Alex[sp3dev]: ok |
| 22:18.28 | angelox|laptop | Alex[sp3dev]: what are uboot status? good ? :) |
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| 22:20.26 | Alex[sp3dev] | angelox|laptop: framebuffer works. uboot can read emmc partitions. reading kernel from /system freezes, reading from /data works. microsd doesn't work for unknown reason. i'm thinking of a way to make it possible to load custom kernel from microsd or stock android images from emmc, so that rom-makers community also uses uboot and we can dualboot |
| 22:23.21 | Alex[sp3dev] | ok, it launched kernel finally. i placed kernel at /sdcard/boot/vmlinux.uimg and it loads.. but without microsd boot that's a no-go |
| 22:23.55 | angelox|laptop | i see... |
| 22:49.19 | mrmoku | slyon: yo, I just added 14th to my calendar :-) |
