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| 17:35.21 | prpplague | drath: greetings |
| 17:35.29 | drath | hey prpplague |
| 17:35.54 | prpplague | drath: we were beginning to worry that you had been kidnapped by a bunch of drunken belgian monks |
| 17:35.55 | drath | my server that usually runs my irssi 24/7 crashed, so i'm only sporadically in irc |
| 17:36.19 | drath | gotta grab something to eat, bbiab |
| 17:36.30 | prpplague | drath: later |
| 17:58.55 | flyback | CANUCK! |
| 17:58.57 | flyback | bites prpplague |
| 17:59.08 | flyback | hey |
| 17:59.11 | flyback | question |
| 17:59.14 | flyback | about the wiggler |
| 17:59.22 | flyback | a) are the wires length sensitive? |
| 17:59.32 | flyback | b) should I twist pair them each with a ground? |
| 17:59.51 | flyback | c) what software is decent for free I can use with a wiggler clone, I don't feel right about using macronix's tool |
| 18:00.31 | prpplague | parport wiggler are at a relatively low speed and aren't as sensitive to noise as high clocked devices, so you can usually get about 2 feet of cable without issue as long as it is properly wired |
| 18:00.37 | flyback | most important you need to idle in #coreboot |
| 18:00.51 | prpplague | openocd works with just about all arm cores |
| 18:00.56 | flyback | cool :) |
| 18:01.00 | flyback | cause I got a bunch of targets |
| 18:01.02 | prpplague | flyback: not interested in coreboot |
| 18:01.06 | flyback | why |
| 18:01.16 | flyback | they branched out into tons of payloads and even some non x86 |
| 18:01.31 | flyback | but that's cool :) |
| 18:01.31 | prpplague | just isn't needed for my work |
| 18:01.40 | flyback | btw I saw your work the other day |
| 18:01.42 | flyback | cool job :) |
| 18:02.05 | prpplague | ?? |
| 18:02.17 | flyback | I hope you use all solid caps in your handhelds for the idiot that leaves it out in in a car when it's 90f out :) |
| 18:02.29 | flyback | I don't think I saw the place you worked for before |
| 18:02.34 | flyback | their web site |
| 18:02.55 | prpplague | sorry not understanding anything you are saying |
| 18:04.11 | flyback | ok |
| 18:04.20 | flyback | you work for a company that makes handhelds for industry |
| 18:04.27 | flyback | package scanning machines etc |
| 18:04.39 | flyback | like wallmart stockboys use |
| 18:04.53 | flyback | it's been a bad week of work I think I seriously lost some sanity and brain cells |
| 18:05.08 | flyback | i'm saying it looks like a cool company to work for |
| 18:05.44 | prpplague | yea well not for long, they are planning to close the engineering department next year and outsource everything |
| 18:06.04 | flyback | :( |
| 18:06.15 | flyback | i'm sorry someone will pick you up |
| 18:06.23 | flyback | in fact I guarantee it :) |
| 18:13.23 | flyback | bbl my friend |
| 18:16.55 | sn9 | 2 feet is 2 long a cable |
| 18:17.29 | prpplague | sn9: shorter is always better, but i've actually done jtag with a 5 foot cable |
| 18:18.59 | sn9 | it can be done, if you increase the divisor |
| 18:19.17 | prpplague | just not very practical |
| 18:19.21 | sn9 | right |
| 18:19.33 | prpplague | sn9: this was for a hack needing to be done for some remote debugging |
| 18:28.50 | prpplague | sn9: we have a much better solution now, hehe |
| 18:29.44 | sn9 | yay, ftdi! |
| 18:30.17 | prpplague | sn9: hehe, naw, "yay, arm920" |
| 18:30.40 | sn9 | yay, both |
| 18:31.08 | prpplague | ft2232 is a darn good device, but it has some limitations |
| 18:31.46 | prpplague | mainly with speed and latency |
| 18:32.07 | sn9 | i suppose they could be overcome with an avr |
| 18:32.07 | prpplague | plus network connectivity, you have to have a host pc |
| 18:32.14 | prpplague | s/avr/arm920 |