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| 18:26.32 | prpplague | wookey_: you see our new arm9 board? |
| 18:28.26 | prpplague | wookey_: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6212564523.html |
| 19:17.25 | wookey_ | prpplague: yes. I didn;'t realise that was you. Nice bit of kit, and I see you've joined the open hardware revolution |
| 19:17.57 | prpplague | wookey_: yea, although the schematics are available we are still deciding on the license |
| 19:18.00 | wookey_ | what licence did you use? open hardware licenses is up for disucssion in paris next month. I may try to attend |
| 19:19.21 | wookey_ | did you consider the tapr licence, which seems to be one of the better developed. Or our BOHL |
| 19:22.03 | prpplague | wookey_: right now we are just releasing the schematic for reference only, we are planning to put it under license in the two or three weeks |
| 19:22.14 | prpplague | wookey_: any recommendations would be helpful |
| 19:22.32 | wookey_ | well, those are my two. I don;t think there are any other viable choices right now |
| 19:22.49 | prpplague | wookey_: ok, thanks, i'll give those a review |
| 19:23.01 | wookey_ | the BOHL needs simplifying though. we decided months ago it had too much process built-in, but no-one has found time to re-write it |
| 19:23.34 | wookey_ | I've been talking to the FSF about this and they are not quite sure what a general OHL should look like either |
| 19:24.12 | wookey_ | the BOHL was written for people like you to use, so I'd be interested to hear whether you think it does what you want or not. |
| 19:24.15 | prpplague | yea, its a tricky deal |
| 19:24.41 | prpplague | wookey_: if i had my choice, i'd want something similiar to the BSD license for hardware |
| 19:25.24 | wookey_ | OK. in that case you might prefer TAPR OHL which is much siumpler and more or less just says 'you can't assert any patents on this' |
| 19:25.49 | wookey_ | BOHL tries to provide some legal protection for designers from people who build a board but it doesn;t work |
| 19:26.03 | prpplague | wookey_: had that would be good too |
| 19:26.23 | wookey_ | personally I think that's an overrated risk, but I know the bosds worries about it... |
| 19:26.45 | wookey_ | boss |
| 19:27.16 | prpplague | wookey_: any thoughts about the hammer board as you read the specs and such? |
| 19:36.27 | key2 | AchiestDragon ?? |
| 19:36.34 | key2 | AchiestDragon: there? |
| 19:50.17 | key2 | prpplague: you are the one that told me that s3c2410 was nice, right ? |
| 19:51.03 | prpplague | indeed |
| 19:51.54 | key2 | prpplague: where do u buy it ? |
| 19:52.11 | prpplague | key2: modules or cpus? |
| 19:52.25 | key2 | both :) |
| 19:52.40 | key2 | prpplague: I want to do a board with array of 16 FPGA |
| 19:52.51 | prpplague | uh ok |
| 19:53.01 | key2 | I wonder if it can bitbang fast enough tho |
| 19:53.07 | prpplague | module are easy to find, there are alot of manufacturers |
| 19:53.22 | prpplague | key2: what will the fpgas do? |
| 19:53.23 | key2 | prpplague: the thing is that the FPGA itself is a BGA package |
| 19:53.50 | key2 | prpplague: break A5 algorithm |
| 19:53.56 | key2 | for making the rainbow table |
| 19:55.15 | key2 | prpplague: so since it will be a board with BGA, i wonder if i better take it as module or directly on the board |
| 19:58.20 | prpplague | key2: what will be the interface from the cpu to the fpga? |
| 19:58.30 | key2 | buses |
| 19:58.35 | key2 | addr + data |
| 19:59.56 | prpplague | key2: probably get one of the sodims from simtec or one of the modules from embest |
| 20:00.48 | key2 | prpplague: better take it as module ? |
| 20:01.08 | prpplague | key2: i would |
| 20:01.46 | key2 | prpplague: it has ethernet onboard ? |
| 20:01.50 | key2 | or need a phy |
| 20:02.01 | prpplague | no, you can add that on seperately |
| 20:02.18 | prpplague | key2: what do you need 10baseT or higher? |
| 20:04.27 | key2 | 100 |
| 20:04.36 | key2 | 10 wont be fast enough |
| 20:04.55 | prpplague | key2: then i'd just add a cs8900 board |
| 20:06.42 | key2 | whats this ? :) |
| 20:07.41 | key2 | ok a lan controller |
| 20:07.51 | key2 | prpplague: so the chip doesnt have a MAC core ? |
| 20:08.01 | prpplague | no |
| 20:08.05 | key2 | mmh |
| 20:08.14 | key2 | what about EP9302 ? is it crap ? |
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| 22:36.44 | AchiestDragon | you know if your programming all 16 at the same time ,, if you have 36 bits of dio to play with on the programming cpu you can program them all in parrallel taking 1/16th of the time of programming them in a chian |
| 22:38.38 | AchiestDragon | if say programming it from a ep93xx or other such cpu , then you can in asm write it and get it down to about 25mhz clocking , although the actual dio seems to only like 5mhz |
| 22:39.13 | AchiestDragon | a cpld clocked direct from sdram would give it that sort of rate also |
| 22:39.24 | AchiestDragon | maybe faster |
| 22:40.01 | AchiestDragon | thats all 16 getting programmed with individual code each also |