| 00:10.12 | fluff | goodnight all |
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| 08:52.49 | fluff | well, this explains it. my jtagkey-tiny is dead |
| 08:52.58 | fluff | it dosen't even work on my SMDK2412 |
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| 20:08.48 | flyback | http://flyback.databurn.net/TTL-SERIAL-CARD-AND-PRINTER-SERVER/S4200069.JPG |
| 20:08.49 | flyback | :P |
| 20:27.10 | prpplague | flyback: cute hack, wrong channel for it though |
| 20:30.42 | flyback | well actually not entirely |
| 20:30.48 | flyback | since you guys have to deal with level conversion also |
| 20:30.56 | flyback | my question is about 74245 :P |
| 20:31.13 | flyback | if I want to make this device be able to handle like the +3.3 on the juicebox |
| 20:31.28 | flyback | what family of 245 do I need and what's a good guide to hooking it up |
| 20:31.46 | flyback | just let me back into #edev already |
| 20:31.49 | flyback | a lot has changed |
| 20:31.51 | flyback | :p |
| 20:32.11 | flyback | hell i'll give you my home phone # as collateral |
| 20:33.07 | flyback | also one quick non channel related question then I am going back to bed |
| 20:33.27 | flyback | have you heared of or noticed any issues with the juicebox's sd reader and linux or in general like data loss etc |
| 20:33.31 | flyback | thx |
| 20:34.43 | prpplague | flyback: yea, the usb sd/mmc card reader shipped with the JB is terrible |
| 20:34.49 | flyback | thank you so much |
| 20:35.02 | flyback | for once I'm not crazy |
| 20:35.03 | prpplague | flyback: more than 1/2 of the ones i got have failed |
| 20:35.14 | flyback | yeah I thought i was losing it with some palm linux issues |
| 20:35.23 | flyback | now I suspect that little reader I use to load the cards was eating shit |
| 20:35.25 | prpplague | i used them for parts |
| 20:35.44 | flyback | well readers are cheap so I will order some and use something else for now |
| 20:35.45 | flyback | thx bud |
| 20:35.50 | prpplague | np |
| 20:37.09 | flyback | man cf got so cheap and so did the cf to ide adaptors |
| 20:37.24 | flyback | like a bunch of machines I am using like for hd testing etc I am going to rip off all the drives now |
| 20:37.28 | flyback | 2 gig like $13 |
| 20:37.57 | flyback | other than worrying about write cycle life it's like the hell with dealing with a disk for stuff that doesn't care :P |
| 20:37.59 | flyback | anyways bbl |
| 20:41.09 | prpplague | flyback: yea cf is dying as far as embedded |
| 20:41.14 | flyback | oh? |
| 20:41.15 | flyback | why? |
| 20:41.16 | prpplague | flyback: in favor of spi and sdio |
| 20:41.17 | flyback | size> |
| 20:41.20 | flyback | ick |
| 20:41.31 | flyback | well if they open up more of the spec I guess that's ok |
| 20:41.34 | prpplague | flyback: requires too many control lines to implement |
| 20:41.46 | prpplague | flyback: all thats needed for the spec is already open |
| 20:41.54 | flyback | oh cool then |
| 20:42.01 | prpplague | flyback: its the device manufacturers that aren't releasing their specs |
| 20:42.05 | flyback | no chance of a sata cf you think? |
| 20:42.14 | prpplague | flyback: i.e. similiar to the early days of pcmcica |
| 20:42.24 | prpplague | pcmcia |
| 20:42.37 | prpplague | flyback: doubt it |
| 20:43.04 | flyback | I thought about something isn't using a reader on sm or xd dangerous? |
| 20:43.19 | flyback | for the data |
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| 20:43.28 | prpplague | flyback: ?? |
| 20:43.57 | flyback | well since the host has to do all the sector management etc, couldn't you have a camera say write the data in a non standard way that the reader might corrupt |
| 20:44.44 | flyback | nm not important |
| 20:44.56 | flyback | I am just glad you gave me the info I needed on those damn readers |
| 20:47.30 | prpplague | flyback: yea, thats true of anything though |
| 20:47.48 | prpplague | flyback: all the devices you use a storage media on have to play by the same rules |
| 20:48.04 | flyback | yeah but at least with other formats there is a controller always presenting a standard interface at least in theroy |
| 20:48.17 | flyback | so it could have hamster wheels in the background storing 0's or 1's it wouldn't matter |
| 20:50.01 | prpplague | flyback: ?? |
| 20:50.13 | prpplague | flyback: sm and xd also have controllers |
| 20:50.17 | flyback | uh |
| 20:50.20 | flyback | since when |
| 20:50.27 | flyback | they are just raw nand |
| 20:50.38 | prpplague | flyback: they are, but the devices that use them have controllers |
| 20:50.43 | prpplague | flyback: thats the difference |
| 20:50.58 | prpplague | flyback: controller is in the device not in the media |
| 20:50.59 | flyback | yeah but I am saying if you switch between devices you might have a chance of it switching from english to japanse |
| 20:51.13 | prpplague | flyback: doesn't work that way |
| 20:51.17 | flyback | oh? |
| 20:51.22 | flyback | I stand corrected then :) |
| 20:51.36 | flyback | I still rather trust a dedicated controller in the package :P |
| 20:51.48 | flyback | palm linux is coming along nicely btw I have it on my t5 |
| 20:51.51 | flyback | :) |
| 20:51.58 | flyback | you should hang in #hackndev sometime |
| 20:52.04 | flyback | marex is a prick but he knows his stuff |
| 20:53.04 | flyback | I suspect part of the problem is he knows the english language but not all the grammer |
| 20:53.12 | flyback | so he either sounds like a prick or he takes stuff wrong |
| 20:54.12 | prpplague | yea, i tried hanging in hackndev, but the level of maturity there was kinda low |
| 20:54.26 | flyback | ooo these lead acid camcorder batteries from my aunt's old camcorder that blew it's battery circuitry, the old one was 10v 850ma and it's 5 flat ziplock style lead acid batteries 2volts 850 each this new one are 2000ma packs :P |
| 20:54.41 | flyback | these might be useful since lead acid is fairly rugged :P |
| 21:02.43 | prpplague | flyback: yea i stictly use lithium ion these days since they are cheap |
| 21:03.38 | flyback | I have like 60+ lithium cells from old laptop batteries and several of them are still good |
| 21:03.42 | flyback | yes I know those aren't ion |
| 21:03.51 | flyback | I am not ready to go with lithium yet too much chance of blowing a kids head off |
| 21:03.51 | flyback | :P |
| 21:03.56 | flyback | till I get more skilled |
| 21:04.09 | flyback | hey one thing did you hear about the dewalt hack |
| 21:04.10 | flyback | dude |
| 21:04.15 | flyback | you need this hang on |
| 21:04.18 | flyback | they are all over ebay now |
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| 21:04.35 | flyback | http://www.slkelectronics.com/DeWalt/packs.htm |
| 21:04.47 | flyback | these new super cells lithium cells you can treat like nicd |
| 21:05.05 | flyback | problem is they are $100/sample but if you buy a drill pack that happens ot use them - around $9/cell |
| 21:05.45 | flyback | their ma isn't that high only 2300ma but you can like 5c+ them without them blowing up |
| 21:05.55 | flyback | you can keep charging them and they will just act like caps and stop accepting charge |
| 21:06.10 | flyback | anyways out for real this time :P |
| 21:19.54 | prpplague | yea i saw that on hackaday |
| 21:20.06 | prpplague | i prefer units with 18650 cells in them though |
| 21:20.23 | prpplague | you can get a 1800mAh 18650 pretty easy these days |
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| 21:21.51 | prpplague | flyback-: cute device |
| 21:22.10 | flyback- | yeah |
| 21:23.36 | flyback- | oh it does sm too |
| 21:23.39 | flyback- | could get insteresting |
| 21:24.41 | flyback- | oh I can use it as a reader too! perfect! |
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