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| 15:42.33 | blasti99 | anyone alive ? |
| 15:55.15 | keesj | hi |
| 16:04.33 | wookey__ | yes, and stuggling with jtag |
| 16:05.04 | wookey__ | bflash has just acquired xilinx-type dongle support |
| 16:06.20 | p2-mate | bflash ? |
| 16:06.42 | wookey__ | jtaging software that can handle multiple chains, and emulate intel's jflash |
| 16:07.03 | wookey__ | (in terms of command line) |
| 16:07.32 | wookey__ | it's what we use on balloon because Dave Bisset reckoned none of the existing things were extensible enough |
| 16:07.50 | wookey__ | once we have explunged the last bits of intel code it can be released GPL |
| 16:08.09 | p2-mate | ah |
| 16:08.29 | p2-mate | and it handles other flashtypes then strataflash ? |
| 16:08.39 | blasti99 | I am having trouble with a selfmade wiggler interface... now i am wondering if i haev more success with the simpler xilinx cable... but this is using 5v, so are all jtag ports able to handle this ?? dont want to blow up my microcontroller ? |
| 16:10.36 | p2-mate | the xilinx cable uses a buffer with the outputs powered by the target |
| 16:11.09 | blasti99 | i meant the clone without the buffer... |
| 16:11.25 | blasti99 | well actually the traget is a mips32 core |
| 16:11.54 | wookey__ | p2-mate: it probably only handles what is on balloon2 and 3 so far |
| 16:11.54 | p2-mate | I wouldn't skip the buffer |
| 16:12.16 | sn9 | if there's no buffer, it's not a wiggler |
| 16:12.17 | wookey__ | I don;t think that is strataflash |
| 16:12.59 | p2-mate | wookey__: you did the kernel support, so you ought to know those things :) |
| 16:13.09 | blasti99 | i know... the wiggler cable i built has a buffer, but when i use ocd-commander it complains about "target not connected" |
| 16:13.16 | wookey__ | I'm using this circuit: http://balloonboard.org/hardware/JTAG/xilinx/jtag_dongle_schematic.PDF |
| 16:13.29 | wookey__ | that is equivalent to a wiggler isn't it? |
| 16:15.00 | blasti99 | similar |
| 16:15.24 | p2-mate | I believe so yes |
| 16:17.50 | wookey__ | and is it better to call that 'wiggler' or 'xilinx' in a command-line option identifier? |
| 16:18.01 | wookey__ | or perhaps allow both? |
| 16:18.34 | sn9 | different cables use different parport signals for different things |
| 16:18.55 | wookey__ | I know - its a right pain in the bum |
| 16:20.39 | wookey__ | we've been using LART/JTUX dongle on CPU channel and wiggler on CPLD/FPGA channel for last few years which is ridiculous state of affairs - now fixed this week :-) |
| 16:22.21 | sn9 | because of software incompatibilities? |
| 16:23.06 | p2-mate | wookey__: so you needed a PC with 2 parallelports ? :) |
| 16:23.50 | sn9 | that's not hard to do |
| 16:25.00 | p2-mate | on a laptop ? :) |
| 16:25.24 | sn9 | the built-in and a pcmcia card |
| 16:25.59 | p2-mate | if the laptop still has pcmcia |
| 16:26.33 | sn9 | if it still has a parport, it still has pcmcia |
| 16:26.50 | AchiestDragon | or a parallel port switch |
| 16:31.00 | sn9 | i wouldn't bother with a switch; just plug and replug. if that got too annoying, i'd use two laptops |
| 16:35.01 | AchiestDragon | the problem with constantly pluging in and removing things is you get contact wair , and replacing the connector can be an expencive job, usualy after 1000 to 2000 insertions |
| 16:36.13 | sn9 | not if you use a 30cm parallel port extender that can be replaced |
| 16:37.00 | sn9 | oh, wait. you meant the male end |
| 16:37.57 | AchiestDragon | no the female end suffers |
| 16:38.15 | sn9 | the extender fixes that |
| 16:38.20 | AchiestDragon | true |
| 16:38.56 | sn9 | actually, it could fix either situation |
| 17:16.54 | sn9 | d'oh! |
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