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03:17.01AchiestDragonburst speeds of 6 to 10 mhz maybe posible but to get it sustained at that would not be ,, , and even shourt bursts could have interuptions that delay it
03:19.26AchiestDragoni have the other problem with the geep-b , in that the ram bandwith is 100mhz for burst access thats 1 16bit read ,, so in actual fact it would be posible to achive a 1.6Ghz but the fpga is not fast enough to cope with that
03:21.47AchiestDragonit will do 125mhz ,, and by using a cpld it could be posible to dubble that and get 250mhz but as long as it can do 60mhz jtag clock  that should be fine
03:24.14AchiestDragonat the moment its down to coding ,, im working on the avr supervisor program for it atm and still the host code to start on , as well as the vhdl and code for any softcore
03:24.57AchiestDragonthe avr code is beeing written in asembly
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10:37.27aproemelhey vmaster :-)
10:40.38vmasterhey aproemel
10:41.17aproemelDo you think 2 weeks u-boot 5 weeks kernel to start init is to less?
10:41.47vmasterit could work - of course you're on a tight schedule, but you already know that i guess
10:42.04vmastermost of the porting is already done, and the board specific stuff is usually not that much
10:42.30aproemelyes, but i have to tell my boss in a few hours, how i plan to do my work
10:42.44vmasterespecially since you don't need to support anything but memory + serial
10:43.27aproemelis it possible to boot a kernel like on a x86 arch ?
10:43.34aproemelso that the kernel boot itself ?
10:45.09vmasteryou mean once you have a running kernel, you boot a new one?
10:45.35vmasteri've heard that this works on arm, too, but never tried it, and don't know what's necessary for it to work
10:46.33aproemeli mean, that i write the kernel at an address an boot it, like you write it at the start of a harddisk and then restart the x86 arch
10:46.45aproemelthen the kernel boots itself, without any bootloader
10:47.13vmasterwell, on x86 you have the BIOS, which does everything a bootloader does
10:47.25aproemeli know
10:47.53vmasterheh, yeah, then if you have a BIOS on your target, you can do without a bootloader ;)
10:47.59aproemelif i upload it with my loader thats inits ram, serial and the clocks, and jump to my kernel, do you think that'll work ?
10:48.12vmasterthe kernel needs to be passed some arguments
10:48.28vmastermachine id, board id, and ATAG parameters with memory layout and cmdline
10:48.46aproemelwhat does the kernel without these informations?
10:48.58vmasterit fails booting
10:49.07aproemeldoes an output appear?
10:49.17vmasterno - at that time, there is /nothing/
10:49.31vmasteryou can add a "shim" that initializes this information
10:49.43vmasterpeople do that when their target has a bootloader that fails to pass the correct information
10:50.16aproemel:-( it was only an idea, to test my kernel build on my test board, without flash
10:50.51vmasteryou could use the embest u-boot - you already have that working, don't you?
10:51.50aproemelmhh, i have to build the kernel new, cause board ID
10:52.40vmasteryeah, you can easily fake that in the kernel
10:54.07aproemeli'm currently run from one into another meeting :-(
10:55.51aproemeltoday 2 meetings, tomorrow 1, yesterday 1
10:56.09vmasterouch
10:56.14aproemelI spent more time to work for these meetings, that on my work :-(
10:56.17vmasterhard to get any work done this way
10:56.19vmasteryeah
10:57.10aproemeli'm working 7-15:30 without any break, then drive home, eat something and have to correct my written text of the morning ^^
10:57.52vmasterheh, during the final phase of my diploma thesis i worked from 10:00 to 24:00+ ;)
10:58.10aproemel10+ ^^ i get up at 5:30 every day
10:58.17aproemeldrive 1hour
10:58.25aproemeland 1 hour back home
10:59.27aproemeli hope, that if i get my hardware, that it works correctly
11:00.28aproemelbecause i don't want to debug hardware a few weeks first, if i had to do so, everything isn't possible to get realized :-(
11:05.40aproemelin 45min i have to go to the meeting
11:14.37rwhitbya good arm shim can be found on marc singer's site
11:15.27rwhitbyftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/arm/arm-kernel-shim/
11:15.46aproemelthnx rwhitby
11:16.06rwhitby(we use that for the ixp4xx boards that we support in nslu2-linux.org)
11:16.18rwhitby(where the vendor's bootloader is broken)
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