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17:14.58alorenzI am interested in hooking up a jtag to my nslu2 (slug), and have read the info in pinouts from nslu2-linux.org, but am still a bit confused if I need to also hook up TRSTn and RESET_IN_N signals
17:15.51alorenzAlso can I just use an unbuffered cable from parallel port or do I have to build a buffered cable ?
17:43.48vmasteralorenz: do you want to use the jtag just for flashing, or do you want to be able to debug the ixp?
17:44.53vmasteralorenz: you'll certainly need buffers to account for the 3.3V of the slug vs 5V of the parport
17:48.55alorenzWhat I want to do is increase the memory size, for that according to the documentation I will need to install a different bootload (apex), and again according to the documenation I really need to have a reliable jtag to recover from problems
17:49.43vmasteralorenz: you'll only need to be able to flash then
17:50.12vmasteralorenz: that means you should be able to do without RESET_IN_N, and probably even without TRSTn
17:51.22alorenzwhat do the TRSTn and RESET_IN_N pins do ?  I was not able to understand from the documentation
17:52.10vmasterTRSTn is used to reset the JTAG TAP (test access port), possibly including debug logic (but that depends on the target)
17:52.16vmasterRESET_IN_N resets the target processor
17:52.43vmasteras the nslu2 uses an XScale processor, you need both reset lines if you want to be able to debug
17:53.11vmasterflashing uses the jtag interface to get access to all the device pins
17:53.17vmasteryou don't need the reset signals for that
17:57.35alorenzI have been reading on jtag at wiki.openwrt.org  where they just hook up the 4 signal through 100 ohm resistor, is this enough to drop the voltage or  should I really build the WIggler type ?
17:58.19alorenzwhich has a buffer the link is http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Customizing/Hardware/JTAG_Cable
18:03.27vmastersorry, not sure - I personally wouldn't use an unbuffered cable, but it might work just fine
18:07.54AchiestDragonhttp://www.whipy.demon.co.uk/wiggler.pdf    although not showing pinout for a parallel port  it supports 3.3 or 5v host and 1.2v to 5v jtag
18:09.58alorenzThanks.  Will probably make the buffered cable. ..
18:12.00AchiestDragonneeds to be a  74hc05 or 74ac05 if the host is 3.3v  
18:12.40AchiestDragonalot of the wigglers i have seen use 74hc244's  they still give 5v output levels
18:15.04alorenzThanks AchiestDragon, my link did have an example using the 244... Will make sure I check....
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