| 00:00.50 | AchiestDragon | i did a autocad dfx export but at 29mb for the pcb it would not fit in my web space |
| 00:01.02 | [g2] | pcp ? |
| 00:01.06 | [g2] | pcb ? |
| 00:01.15 | AchiestDragon | pcb artwork |
| 00:01.19 | [g2] | pcb or gerbv ? |
| 00:01.25 | [g2] | as the linux tools |
| 00:02.03 | AchiestDragon | k |
| 00:02.40 | [g2] | is there a layout file ? |
| 00:02.43 | AchiestDragon | have used pcb in linux , its a sod to enter new parts to the libs |
| 00:02.49 | [g2] | .gbl ? |
| 00:03.10 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 00:04.08 | AchiestDragon | .gbl .gbo .gbp .gbs .gtl .gto .gtp .gts |
| 00:05.42 | AchiestDragon | .gbl bottom layer .gbo bottom overlay .gbp bottom paste .gbs bottom silk .gtl top layer .gto top overlay .gtp top solder paste .gts top silk screen |
| 00:06.04 | AchiestDragon | the .ps files there are the schematics |
| 00:06.22 | [g2] | yeah I was looking at the schematics |
| 00:06.50 | [g2] | now I'm tying to load the gerbers in pcb or gerbv |
| 00:07.46 | AchiestDragon | the schematics need tidying , swapping pins and some changes made a mess of the layout neatness of the schematics , and some page connectors need relabeling to make it more readable |
| 00:08.21 | [g2] | AchiestDragon I think what you are doing is great |
| 00:08.44 | *** join/#openjtag beewoolie-afk (n=beewooli@dsl-142-026.sea.blarg.net) |
| 00:08.51 | [g2] | I saw the schematics are GPL (there wasn't a version listed) |
| 00:09.00 | [g2] | I'd guess the gerbers are the same |
| 00:09.25 | AchiestDragon | yes , its noted in text on the updated gerbers |
| 00:09.30 | [g2] | hey beewoolie-afk welcome |
| 00:09.34 | beewoolie-afk | Hey |
| 00:09.34 | AchiestDragon | but not uploaded them yet |
| 00:09.50 | beewoolie-afk | Looks like a convo in progress. |
| 00:10.22 | [g2] | beewoolie-afk yeah I was looking at AchiestDragon schematics and trying to look at the gerbers |
| 00:10.43 | AchiestDragon | btw dont post the link as genaral its a large zip and i only have 60mb/day usage bandwith on my webspace |
| 00:11.57 | beewoolie-afk | AchiestDragon: is this the S3 pc104 board? |
| 00:12.06 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 00:12.15 | beewoolie-afk | Sounds like progress, |
| 00:12.21 | AchiestDragon | http://www.whipy.demon.co.uk/aztag1b.zip |
| 00:12.41 | beewoolie-afk | If you want it hosted some place, I'd be glad to put it on my server. |
| 00:12.45 | beewoolie-afk | I have unlimited BW. |
| 00:12.51 | beewoolie-afk | Well, unmetered. |
| 00:13.06 | AchiestDragon | it should go in the cvs , i supose |
| 00:14.51 | AchiestDragon | although i dont think the gerber files should untill we know it works |
| 00:16.45 | beewoolie-afk | AchiestDragon: I thought we were going to use ep1220's board as part of this? |
| 00:18.00 | AchiestDragon | i used a modifyed version of his interface , on the board , to reduce sgnal losses to the fpga and allow for the extra signals for the analizer functions |
| 00:20.19 | AchiestDragon | also allowing for a diferent connector to the adaptor board that will allow for faster data rates over the cable , so 100Mhz should be ok to about 1' of cable |
| 00:21.29 | AchiestDragon | it uses the .5" pitch cable rather than the .1" like the cable used on the ata133 ide cables |
| 00:21.34 | beewoolie-afk | These ARM TRM's seem to be quite error prone. Just a statement of observation. |
| 00:22.06 | beewoolie-afk | AchiestDragon: I've been wondering about that. |
| 00:22.23 | beewoolie-afk | It looks like the headers are the same on these higher density cables. |
| 00:22.27 | beewoolie-afk | Is that true? |
| 00:22.35 | AchiestDragon | no |
| 00:23.03 | beewoolie-afk | So, the headers a special to accept the ribbon cable. |
| 00:23.08 | AchiestDragon | the 40 way connector for the 80 way cable as ata133 is a odd one |
| 00:25.38 | AchiestDragon | yes , and avalable cheap'ish the 3M mini D ribbon (MDR) connectors 102 series the 36way is the one i have used |
| 00:26.05 | AchiestDragon | there like the scsi2 ones but less pins |
| 00:26.05 | beewoolie-afk | Is there an extra ground between each signal? |
| 00:26.15 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 00:28.40 | AchiestDragon | the only exeption are the signals at the end that is reset , signal , gnd , signal, gnd ,.........to other end that is signal , gnd , signal , vccjtag, signal , vcc jtag |
| 00:29.04 | beewoolie-afk | That should't matter much. |
| 00:29.11 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 00:32.51 | AchiestDragon | so what adaptors do we need ,, the analizer adaptor , and jtag 20pin, 12pin and 10 pin formats any others ? |
| 00:33.06 | beewoolie-afk | AchiestDragon: There is a 14 pin ARM format. |
| 00:34.24 | AchiestDragon | k, i want to try and sort the adaptors so that it takes the cable from the tester ,and the adaptor board plugs direct into the jtag socket under test |
| 00:36.28 | AchiestDragon | could posablay get 3 jtag conectors per adaptor , on per edge with the cable on the other edge |
| 00:37.19 | AchiestDragon | may lead to the adaptor board beeing T shaped though |
| 00:38.18 | beewoolie-afk | I'm not sure what you mean "on per edge with cable on the other edge" |
| 00:40.05 | AchiestDragon | a right angle socket for the jtag connector , plugs direct into the jtag connector on the bord beeing tested, one on each end of the pcb would be a normal but a difernt one on each side also |
| 00:41.48 | AchiestDragon | so a 20 pin a 12 pin and a 14 pin , cannot be all on the same end of the pcb or the ones not in use may get in the way of other components on the board you want to plug it into |
| 00:43.22 | AchiestDragon | so with a T shaped pcb there ca be one on each end of the - part and one at the bottom of the | part with the main cable running from the center at the top |
| 00:44.40 | AchiestDragon | shape of the pcb is not a problem as th place i will e using to make them can cnc route out any shape of pcb |
| 00:44.42 | beewoolie-afk | Are you suggesting that there be no cable, just a connector on the PC104 board? |
| 00:45.19 | AchiestDragon | no a cable , but it runs to a board that has the diferent jtag format connectors on the end |
| 00:45.51 | AchiestDragon | i recon there are at least 6 or 8 different jtag pinouts in use |
| 00:46.05 | beewoolie-afk | It is likely that that number could increase. |
| 00:46.23 | beewoolie-afk | It would be best if the routing were handled by the FPGA |
| 00:46.25 | AchiestDragon | so could the number of adaptors , just as easy |
| 00:46.57 | AchiestDragon | no , not when you have to use diferent pins for vcc and gnd on the jtag port |
| 00:47.01 | beewoolie-afk | It's impossible to make all combos. |
| 00:47.14 | AchiestDragon | we can make the common ones |
| 00:47.20 | beewoolie-afk | Yeah, there isn't much we can do about that. |
| 00:48.12 | beewoolie-afk | Seems like we could always build a custom cable from, say, the 20 pin header. 20 pin .10 pitch on one end and who-knows what on the other. that seems to be the strategy used by the BDI2000. |
| 00:48.31 | beewoolie-afk | Common ones can be handled with a simple, flat ribbon cable. |
| 00:50.21 | AchiestDragon | any custom ones would mean a custom end , or that may be easy to impliment :) ( an adaptor with a patch aria ) |
| 00:51.01 | beewoolie-afk | The BDI cables use loose wires. Makes it easy to configure a cable for whatever they need. |
| 00:52.14 | AchiestDragon | maybe , but loose wires can cause problems at high speeds |
| 00:52.33 | beewoolie-afk | That's the price to be paid. |
| 00:56.41 | AchiestDragon | think i can come up with a solution to the problem |
| 00:57.51 | beewoolie-afk | :-) |
| 01:04.57 | [g2] | so beewoolie-afk can you look at the gerbers in linux ? |
| 01:05.03 | [g2] | or dyoung-khfc or ka6sox |
| 01:05.13 | beewoolie-afk | I don't know about gerbers. |
| 01:05.14 | [g2] | dunno if lennert does gerbers yet |
| 01:05.35 | beewoolie-afk | I looked at the PS files, but I'm no 'spert in that area. |
| 01:06.21 | AchiestDragon | ka6sox can , dont know if it was win or linux that he used |
| 01:08.01 | AchiestDragon | the .gts and .gbs are solder mask layers not silk screen as i mentioned earlyer btw |
| 01:10.18 | AchiestDragon | the .gto top overlay has been updated today , the text on it is now formated right and connector names added etc |
| 01:10.37 | AchiestDragon | not uploaded yet |
| 01:10.51 | AchiestDragon | just working on the bottom overlay atm |
| 01:13.54 | dyoung-khfc | gerbv works |
| 01:14.33 | [g2] | dyoung-khfc what do I have to do to get the layers imported |
| 01:16.30 | [g2] | what's the project file ? |
| 01:16.47 | [g2] | Or do I just load the layers individually |
| 01:18.41 | dyoung-khfc | Hmm, I dont quite rmemeber right now and gerbv is busted fromwhen I was migrating to xen. |
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| 01:24.05 | beewoolie-afk | dyoung-khfc: well, yes it does. |
| 01:24.36 | [g2] | looks like gerbv *g* works well :) |
| 01:26.10 | AchiestDragon | give me another 30 mins , and i will do a .ps of the pcb , but atm the ps print driver im using seems to make multipage outputs read as only a single page in some linux viewers |
| 01:26.37 | AchiestDragon | i need to find my old driver that worked well for producing .ps files for linux |
| 01:26.42 | beewoolie-afk | AchiestDragon: try converting PS to PDF. |
| 01:26.58 | beewoolie-afk | PDF viewers all around are better than PS viewers. |
| 01:27.05 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 01:28.38 | AchiestDragon | the old driver i was using was suposed to be a print to pdf , but only seemed to produce .ps output , since i had to reinsall xp because of a virus i cannot rmember where i got the driver from |
| 01:29.39 | dyoung-khfc | okay cool gerbv did the right thing for you? |
| 01:29.41 | AchiestDragon | but the .ps was good enough for most and should convert to pdf , will have to find the converter again also |
| 01:30.02 | [g2] | dyoung-khfc yes... I think I just need to order the layers |
| 01:30.42 | [g2] | dyoung-khfc I think need a way of marking up the gerbers and handling revision changes |
| 01:30.42 | AchiestDragon | the gerbers are the important format as 99% of pcb houses like it in that format |
| 01:31.08 | [g2] | AchiestDragon Oh absolutely |
| 01:31.25 | [g2] | AchiestDragon do you also have a netlist and BOM ? |
| 01:31.56 | [g2] | AchiestDragon I"m glad to see you put your name on there too |
| 01:32.12 | dyoung-khfc | [g2] which one is the proect file ? |
| 01:33.33 | [g2] | dyoung-khfc heh Idon't think there is a project file :) |
| 01:33.45 | [g2] | just gerbv *g* |
| 01:33.49 | [g2] | *.g* |
| 01:34.06 | [g2] | and turn all the layers _on_ or _off_ |
| 01:34.55 | [g2] | the Balloon Project has some tools on their Knoppix CD most of them are free |
| 01:35.09 | dyoung-khfc | AHA.... |
| 01:35.13 | dyoung-khfc | okay I see stuff now |
| 01:35.17 | [g2] | heh :) |
| 01:35.32 | AchiestDragon | should be able to produce protel dxp , orcad SDT Schematics , and autocad DXF schematics |
| 01:35.53 | dyoung-khfc | AchiestDragon: What software have you used to generate this? |
| 01:36.09 | AchiestDragon | protel dxp |
| 01:36.17 | dyoung-khfc | Cool. |
| 01:36.38 | dyoung-khfc | One of the shop guys downstairs from my office has been trying to get me on protel |
| 01:37.05 | [g2] | AchiestDragon does that come with the parts library ? |
| 01:37.12 | [g2] | or do you enter it |
| 01:37.38 | AchiestDragon | i use it because it works , and does the job , would like to have a program with the same capabilaties for linux |
| 01:38.44 | AchiestDragon | there is a quite big parts lib and updates avalable on the web , but some parts you have to enter , but the editor is ok for that , its when you need to enter spice and simulation models forthe part thats a pain |
| 01:41.18 | AchiestDragon | the level translators for the jtag buffers where the only par on this pcb i had to generate a schematic part entery for |
| 01:42.06 | [g2] | AchiestDragon what does Protel DXP cost ? |
| 01:42.41 | AchiestDragon | an arm , leg , second morgage , mabe 2 wives and the car also |
| 01:43.55 | [g2] | $5K US ? |
| 01:44.03 | [g2] | 50K ? |
| 01:45.09 | AchiestDragon | £7000.00 |
| 01:45.26 | [g2] | 7K |
| 01:45.35 | [g2] | US |
| 01:45.46 | AchiestDragon | was , , no uk£ |
| 01:46.10 | [g2] | 12K US ? |
| 01:47.26 | [g2] | 1 seat - 10 dev's world-wide, but only one at at time |
| 01:47.35 | [g2] | s/at at/at a/ |
| 01:49.24 | AchiestDragon | a company that i knew of went bust , and i ended up with it , after a bit of nagging |
| 01:50.47 | [g2] | nod |
| 01:51.10 | [g2] | so is it licensed to a box ? |
| 01:51.59 | AchiestDragon | yes with online activation like xp |
| 01:53.05 | [g2] | so if we had some fast links it could be run locally, but the screen could be remote |
| 01:54.18 | AchiestDragon | could be , im running it on my laptop as its the only xp box i have |
| 01:58.40 | [g2] | AchiestDragon can you tell my what the 10 layer are ? |
| 01:59.01 | [g2] | .gbl .gbo .gbp gbs |
| 01:59.28 | [g2] | the b is bottom |
| 01:59.30 | [g2] | the t is tp |
| 02:00.16 | [g2] | are the .gbs and gts the silkscreen layer |
| 02:01.30 | [g2] | and the gd1 and the gg1 ? |
| 02:01.33 | AchiestDragon | l is layer (copper) , o is overlay ( silk screen ) , s is solder mask ( the green colouring usualy) , the p is splder paste ( if you need it used for a screen printing of the solder paste for the s/m components)m |
| 02:02.30 | AchiestDragon | the gd1 is drill guide , the gg1 should be drill size info , may be other way round for those two |
| 02:03.08 | [g2] | Ok so this is a 2 layer board |
| 02:03.17 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 02:03.23 | [g2] | THX for all the info btw |
| 02:04.09 | [g2] | I'll be talking to some elementary kids about computers soon |
| 02:04.26 | [g2] | this would be great to show them the layers and the colors and the zooms |
| 02:05.21 | [g2] | maybe take in some tin foil sheet that they can cut out designs |
| 02:14.51 | AchiestDragon | couple of sheets of clear asitate and some perminent markers , probablay be as much fun for them , although the parents may not like the laundry |
| 02:17.07 | [g2] | heh |
| 02:17.50 | AchiestDragon | well the perminent marker does not wash out |
| 02:18.16 | [g2] | hence the perminent name :) |
| 02:18.34 | [g2] | which compares with washable markers :) |
| 02:19.22 | AchiestDragon | the hardest stain to remove is feric cloride |
| 02:19.50 | beewoolie-afk | AchiestDragon: where do you find ... FeCl? |
| 02:20.03 | [g2] | beewoolie-afk he makes it! |
| 02:20.14 | [g2] | at the pool |
| 02:20.19 | beewoolie-afk | Probably FeCl2 or something. No periodic table handy. |
| 02:20.21 | [g2] | :) |
| 02:20.37 | AchiestDragon | it leaves a brown stain on cloaths , that after 3 to 4 months ends up beeing a hole |
| 02:20.43 | beewoolie-afk | Or is this a joke...FeCl.. fecal. |
| 02:21.02 | AchiestDragon | FeCl use it for etching copper from pcb's |
| 02:21.12 | beewoolie-afk | Ah. I remember the stuff. |
| 02:22.25 | [g2] | AchiestDragon is that where the mask it and put a wash over the copper to save the areas not to be etched away ? |
| 02:22.40 | AchiestDragon | yes |
| 02:22.56 | [g2] | kinda like printing |
| 02:23.14 | [g2] | milling is the other version right ? |
| 02:24.04 | [g2] | s/guess/guesses/ |
| 02:24.35 | AchiestDragon | photo etch , gerber to print on clear acitate , the pcb is covered in a photosencative material , put the acitate against the pcb , expose under uv light for about 60 seconds , develop , ... |
| 02:25.46 | AchiestDragon | you end up with the photo coating were you need the copper , drop the pcb into FeCl, to etch , remove and wash , then strip the photo resist off, you then have the pcb with the copper on |
| 02:25.50 | [g2] | hence the "printed" part of the printed circuit board |
| 02:26.11 | [g2] | nod. |
| 02:26.48 | AchiestDragon | drill , and put in the through hole plates , , screen print the solder resist , then tin the pads , then screen print the overlay |
| 02:30.54 | [g2] | so it's the gbl, gd1, gbp, gbs, and gpo |
| 02:31.35 | [g2] | copper, drill, paste, mask, and silk screen |
| 02:32.07 | [g2] | for both sides then sandwich together |
| 02:32.37 | AchiestDragon | the paste is a seperate bit , its not used in the pcb manufacturing , its needed for the assembly line |
| 02:32.59 | [g2] | AchiestDragon Right! |
| 02:33.12 | [g2] | that's done before the waveflow |
| 02:33.16 | AchiestDragon | its a paste mask for the solder paste , so it can be screened on before the components are placed |
| 02:33.24 | [g2] | and the pick-n-place machine |
| 02:33.50 | AchiestDragon | then its i/r reflow for surface mount not wave soldered |
| 02:34.26 | [g2] | ah... infrared reflow for al the SMT stuff |
| 02:34.51 | AchiestDragon | basicaly a convayor taking the pcb under some high power inferred lamps |
| 02:35.01 | [g2] | nod |
| 02:36.02 | AchiestDragon | there was a us pcb company that suplyed a plasic sheet for top and bottom solderpaste when you ordered a pcb from them |
| 02:36.47 | AchiestDragon | so you could just put it on the board and spread the paste like a simple silk screen print , to the prototype boards |
| 02:37.42 | [g2] | you just need an oven |
| 02:38.08 | AchiestDragon | they offered them free with the boards , ,nice but there bords would cost more for me than i can get them localy , but was thinking of giving them a try ,but lost the link to there site |
| 02:38.50 | [g2] | ah... you're across the pond right ? |
| 02:38.56 | AchiestDragon | a toster overn that will do 240C should do the job so im told |
| 02:39.19 | [g2] | I think they have at sparkfun like that |
| 02:39.48 | AchiestDragon | have one here but prefer the hot air gun (paint stripper ) method |
| 02:39.52 | [g2] | so with the RHoS compliance they are getting the pB out of the paste right ? |
| 02:40.13 | [g2] | and everything else too |
| 02:40.18 | AchiestDragon | yes ant that means higher temp needed for the solder |
| 02:42.18 | AchiestDragon | my soldering iron just needs a new tip , but have been offered both a wave soder machine and a i/r reflow machine cheap because of it , but not worth it for me if it wont cope with the RHoS stuff |
| 02:42.41 | [g2] | nod |
| 02:42.49 | [g2] | so you do contract designs ? |
| 02:42.56 | [g2] | design / layout |
| 02:43.52 | AchiestDragon | did do , not done any for 5 years now , health problems , but getting back into it |
| 02:44.37 | [g2] | well I hope you get very busy (meaning that your health is very good) |
| 02:44.48 | [g2] | best of luck in that dept. |
| 02:45.17 | [g2] | and I'll make sure I stop bugging you know so you can get some rest :) |
| 02:45.18 | AchiestDragon | atm i canot ern more than £20 a week or i loose the sickness benifit , but working towards setting up my own company this time , had enough of working for others |
| 02:45.30 | [g2] | you're a few hours ahead of me :) |
| 02:46.00 | AchiestDragon | i have sleep problems , like i tend to be up all night |
| 02:46.02 | [g2] | well I'm glad to hear you are getting better |
| 02:46.55 | [g2] | all these type-A+ ppl |
| 02:47.16 | [g2] | know wonder you guys get _so_ much stuff done |
| 02:47.23 | [g2] | you're cheating |
| 02:47.37 | [g2] | working all night |
| 02:47.46 | [g2] | j/k |
| 02:48.07 | [g2] | I had some insonmia in college |
| 02:48.35 | [g2] | it took about 6-9 months to learn to settle down and fall asleep easily |
| 02:52.43 | [g2] | AchiestDragon THX again for all the info. Pls sleep well and take care. |
| 02:53.01 | AchiestDragon | k |
| 02:53.16 | [g2] | I guess there's still a some "tombstoning" with the solder paste |
| 02:53.45 | AchiestDragon | its not a big problem |
| 02:53.50 | [g2] | nod. |
| 02:54.01 | [g2] | I guess it was more with wave flow |
| 02:54.21 | [g2] | or maybe just more a while ago |
| 03:37.43 | lennert | 04:38 here now.. |
| 03:38.39 | lennert | talk about insomnia |
| 03:39.09 | AchiestDragon | :) |
| 03:49.35 | [g2] | hey I'm going to be very soon |
| 03:50.04 | [g2] | don't make be op myself to send you guys to bed :) |
| 03:50.37 | [g2] | sweet dreams all |
| 05:24.55 | ka6sox | ~seen AchiestDragon |
| 05:24.59 | purl | achiestdragon is currently on #brlcad #openjtag. Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 1h 45m 50s, last said: ':)'. |
| 05:25.15 | AchiestDragon | here |
| 05:25.29 | ka6sox | I kinda expected you to be sleeping :) |
| 05:25.43 | AchiestDragon | :) |
| 05:25.52 | AchiestDragon | no |
| 05:26.13 | ka6sox | printed everything out now. and going to sit down over a cup of mocha and start tracing :) |
| 05:26.18 | AchiestDragon | ok, well just found a pdf print driver |
| 05:26.41 | AchiestDragon | i got the silk screens sorted now , |
| 05:27.06 | ka6sox | I didn't print out the gerbers..just the schematic. |
| 05:27.15 | AchiestDragon | and just uploaded a pdf of the pcb |
| 05:27.23 | ka6sox | k |
| 05:27.32 | AchiestDragon | and i have tidyed up the schematics today |
| 05:27.37 | ka6sox | k |
| 05:27.54 | AchiestDragon | not upladed them yet , but will be on with that soon |
| 05:28.16 | ka6sox | okay I"m going to be busy with an online session soon. |
| 05:28.21 | ka6sox | (in a bout 2 minutes0 |
| 05:28.57 | AchiestDragon | http://www.whipy.demon.co.uk/az-tag-1b.pdf |
| 05:29.57 | AchiestDragon | although stupid program got a mesage at bottom of each sheet saying buy this program to remove this message , so will have to find another driver |
| 05:30.04 | ka6sox | cool..htis one has the groundplane. |
| 05:30.06 | ka6sox | :) |
| 05:30.19 | ka6sox | is is possible to have it separate layers? |
| 05:31.10 | AchiestDragon | that one should be on layer per page , top , bottom , top overlay ..... |
| 05:32.09 | ka6sox | ya I see that now |
| 05:32.18 | AchiestDragon | :) |
| 05:32.28 | ka6sox | excellent...bbiaw... |
| 05:34.45 | AchiestDragon | ty ,, although the pdf lacks the detail of the gerber files, and you need to realy view the pdf at over 400% zoom |
| 05:37.48 | AchiestDragon | btw it can use the 32mb*16bit rams so with 2 of those it can have 128mb of buffer space |
| 05:40.26 | AchiestDragon | reading the spec for thoes rams it should also support the 64, 128, and 256mb * 16 bit ones , when they can make them that big , with no extra pcb mods , its when they get to 512mb that they need to start using pin40 as an extra address line |
| 05:41.35 | AchiestDragon | although doubt that we will need 2G bytes of jtag buffer space |
| 06:49.01 | ka6sox | probably not |
| 06:50.32 | ka6sox | but 128MB I could see :) |
| 06:50.53 | AchiestDragon | :) |
| 06:52.55 | AchiestDragon | http://www.whipy.demon.co.uk/az-tag-1b-s.pdf ,,,, schematics ,, in colour , yet another stupid print driver that refuses to print them in landscape though |
| 06:53.14 | ka6sox | tis okay\ |
| 06:55.34 | ka6sox | 8 of 9 looks interesting. |
| 06:59.20 | AchiestDragon | yes , on the schematics theres the text sp8 , sp32 ,sp 33 , sp41 , done , and cclk , there unused pins on the chips , and have been taken to a via , so that if there ever going to be needed it should be posible to solder a wire to them |
| 07:00.42 | ka6sox | good plan |
| 07:01.22 | AchiestDragon | well got to be better than having to solder a wire to the pin of the chip |
| 07:02.01 | ka6sox | okay I'll print these out in the morning on my colour printer and then start cranking them into the VDHL code/UCF |
| 07:02.11 | AchiestDragon | k |
| 07:02.34 | ka6sox | not much different than what I was looking at earlier but easy to ready. |
| 07:02.36 | ka6sox | er ready |
| 07:02.41 | ka6sox | er read |
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| 19:28.35 | ka6sox-office | morning |
| 19:29.31 | lennert | mooorning |
| 19:32.39 | lennert | bork bork bork |
| 19:33.28 | lennert | Noo, toodie wee well meg dee chocolate mooose. |
| 19:41.46 | ka6sox-office | you been dipping onto the well? |
| 19:42.28 | lennert | my friend introduced me to the swedish chef some days ago, and now i'm his biggest fan |
| 19:43.02 | ka6sox-office | just wait until you have kids :) |
| 19:43.08 | lennert | hehe :) |
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| 23:06.08 | ka6sox-office | dyoung ping? |