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| 00:26.37 | lennert | it has four output GPIOs, one input, and three open drain input/output |
| 00:56.17 | lennert | i think i have GPIO working on the EPIA |
| 00:56.28 | lennert | now all i have to do is hook up the wires ;p |
| 00:56.33 | lennert | $5 for the digilent thingy, right? |
| 01:03.01 | [g2] | lennert how fast do _they_ run ? :) |
| 01:03.22 | lennert | no idea yet :) |
| 01:03.31 | lennert | should give that a try |
| 01:03.53 | bullet | lennert btw. last time you asked for a nice isdn card. do you know this one? http://www.sirrix.de/content/pages/pci4s0.htm |
| 01:04.08 | bullet | i don't know about their drivers, but it uses an fpga! ;) |
| 01:04.37 | lennert | hehe |
| 01:04.44 | lennert | i got two hfc-based cards in the meanwhile |
| 01:04.46 | lennert | but didn't try them yet |
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| 01:05.10 | bullet | ah, those are nice too |
| 01:05.29 | lennert | dwmw2 told me they can sniff the d-channel on the bit level |
| 01:05.32 | lennert | which is what i need |
| 01:06.21 | [g2] | lennert is just _so_ plugged in :) |
| 01:06.45 | lennert | plugged in? :) |
| 01:07.11 | [g2] | yeah it's like connected |
| 01:07.27 | [g2] | "so well connected" or connections in all the _right_ places |
| 01:07.34 | lennert | oh |
| 01:07.37 | lennert | like, i know the right people? |
| 01:07.47 | bullet | http://krypt.cs.uni-sb.de/projects/isdnsniffer/ <-- works with the sirrix too! |
| 01:08.11 | lennert | I.410 describes the S/T interface, which is kind of simple |
| 01:08.21 | lennert | 192kbit using inverted alternate mark inversion |
| 01:08.29 | lennert | you could almost sniff that with a sound card |
| 01:08.37 | bullet | hehe |
| 01:09.04 | lennert | ah |
| 01:09.09 | lennert | they describe the S-bus |
| 01:09.30 | lennert | the s-bus is similar to the t-bus |
| 01:09.57 | lennert | so similar that they just merged them ;p |
| 01:10.13 | [g2] | heh inverted AMI |
| 01:10.22 | lennert | yup, inverted AMI |
| 01:10.28 | lennert | so not 1, but 0 generates + - + - + - |
| 01:10.39 | lennert | and a 1 translates into a 0 level |
| 01:12.07 | lennert | it's a miracle how much i understand of that page |
| 01:12.14 | bullet | :) |
| 01:38.28 | lennert | kind of disappointing |
| 01:38.36 | lennert | 1325109 GPIO writes per second |
| 01:38.47 | lennert | (that's when the CPU runs at 534MHz) |
| 01:38.57 | lennert | so about 660kHz |
| 01:38.59 | lennert | as to reading.. |
| 01:39.52 | lennert | 1328888 GPIO reads per second |
| 01:40.10 | lennert | so that's 442962 times (write write read) per second |
| 01:40.18 | lennert | not fantastic |
| 01:40.27 | lennert | anyway |
| 01:40.30 | lennert | it's just a $99 board :P |
| 01:40.49 | lennert | i mean |
| 01:40.56 | lennert | you need to do an I/O transaction to the southbridge |
| 01:41.03 | lennert | that's just not going to be very fast |
| 01:42.20 | bullet | is this the epia pd* series? |
| 01:42.23 | lennert | yeah |
| 01:42.26 | lennert | EPIA PD10000 |
| 01:42.29 | lennert | with the dual lan |
| 01:42.42 | bullet | a friend of mine has one of those too |
| 01:42.42 | ka6sox | for $99????where????? |
| 01:42.52 | bullet | he got it for about 200 EUR |
| 01:42.56 | lennert | oh |
| 01:42.58 | lennert | hum |
| 01:43.06 | lennert | maybe i'm confused |
| 01:43.08 | bullet | well, that was over a year ago |
| 01:43.25 | lennert | in .nl, it's listed for E139,- with the LVDS port |
| 01:43.29 | lennert | but i have it without the LVDS port |
| 01:43.35 | bullet | btw. watch out for those caps - they are from GSC too, afaik |
| 01:44.02 | lennert | hmm |
| 01:44.09 | lennert | i had my board running for a few months without problems |
| 01:44.18 | ka6sox | the old ones are..t.he new ones supposedly arent' |
| 01:44.20 | bullet | mine did for 2 years |
| 01:44.30 | lennert | in any case, i'm pretty sure it wasn't more than E120,- |
| 01:44.34 | lennert | so GSC caps are bad? |
| 01:44.41 | bullet | mine were, yeah :) |
| 01:45.13 | bullet | or should that be :( |
| 01:45.38 | lennert | hmm |
| 01:45.43 | lennert | i had my dual xeon mobo fail cause of bad caps |
| 01:45.48 | lennert | intel server board, no less |
| 01:45.52 | lennert | (SE7505VB2) |
| 01:46.00 | lennert | it still goes for $400 but i paid like $600 for it |
| 01:46.00 | bullet | http://minghetti.ch/dump/kondensator/ |
| 01:46.14 | lennert | minghetti.. is that like mingetty? |
| 01:46.20 | bullet | hehe, no |
| 01:46.24 | lennert | ah, CentOS.. good stuff |
| 01:46.32 | bullet | that's like, my name. it's italian |
| 01:46.38 | lennert | oh |
| 01:46.41 | lennert | sorry :) |
| 01:46.47 | lennert | hello mr. Minghetti |
| 01:46.53 | bullet | hi :) |
| 01:46.57 | lennert | /sbin/minghetti /dev/tty1 |
| 01:47.06 | lennert | i'm Lennert Buytenhek |
| 01:47.13 | lennert | those caps look bad |
| 01:47.37 | bullet | yeah. and not only one of them |
| 01:47.51 | lennert | i got the epia board at http://www.myelectronics.nl/ |
| 01:47.57 | bullet | it's not a pd board, so you could be lucky |
| 01:48.30 | lennert | it's not even an epia board, is it? |
| 01:49.08 | bullet | no, socket 370, but the components are actually all the same |
| 01:49.08 | lennert | no it's not |
| 01:49.12 | lennert | oh really |
| 01:49.13 | bullet | cle266 n stuff |
| 01:49.22 | lennert | c3m266 |
| 01:49.24 | ka6sox-office | very slow stuff. |
| 01:49.29 | lennert | ka6sox-office: shoo :) |
| 01:49.35 | bullet | sufficient for a router :) |
| 01:49.58 | ka6sox-office | I have about 20 of them....so I can say what is what :) |
| 01:50.00 | lennert | i run my epia at 500MHz all the time |
| 01:50.09 | lennert | (534MHz actually) |
| 01:50.23 | lennert | the air coming out of the case fan is just COLD |
| 01:50.31 | lennert | i don't even know why i have a case fan in there |
| 01:50.32 | bullet | i had a c3 ezra 933 running on that board |
| 01:50.36 | lennert | maybe because it came with the case |
| 01:51.40 | lennert | (i have it in this case: http://usa.aopen.com/Products/images/Housing/Products/H450%20series.jpg ) |
| 01:51.48 | lennert | mini-itx cases are just way expensive, better get an atx case |
| 01:52.18 | lennert | http://www.i-rgroup.com/pics/aopen-h450a.jpg |
| 01:52.18 | bullet | hehe, yeah. i had a big one too |
| 01:52.46 | bullet | chieftec bx thingy. monstrous for such a little board, but... |
| 01:53.00 | lennert | friend of mine has an epia as fileserver |
| 01:53.08 | lennert | in a big honkin' atx case with 6 disks or so |
| 01:53.19 | lennert | he doesn't need the cpu.. |
| 01:53.23 | lennert | so why not |
| 01:53.26 | bullet | yeah |
| 01:54.22 | lennert | when/if my fileserver mobo dies i'll replace it with an epia too |
| 01:54.34 | lennert | good boards for the money |
| 01:54.45 | lennert | the dual epia one is still expensive though |
| 01:54.58 | lennert | (VIA DP-310 or something, goes for $450-ish) |
| 01:55.01 | bullet | ugh |
| 01:55.02 | lennert | would have made a nice workstation |
| 01:55.06 | lennert | but just not worth it |
| 01:55.23 | bullet | well, i'd rather have a pentium-m board - but they are even more expensive :( |
| 01:55.25 | lennert | when they announced it i was all excited |
| 01:55.30 | lennert | bullet: really? |
| 01:56.08 | bullet | yeah, well. for a pentium m micro-atx board without processor, you'd pay about 200 Eur in switzerland |
| 01:56.32 | lennert | right |
| 01:56.52 | lennert | cheapest atx mobo is 60 euri or so here |
| 01:57.05 | lennert | and the cheapest cpu to go with it is 60 euro-ish too |
| 01:57.16 | lennert | so the epia mobos are not a bad deal |
| 01:57.32 | bullet | yeah. but im not sure i'll ever gonna buy one of those again |
| 01:57.38 | lennert | an epia, you mean? |
| 01:57.52 | bullet | yeah. those caps just freaked me |
| 01:57.59 | lennert | okay |
| 01:58.05 | lennert | so you have something against via in general then |
| 01:58.19 | bullet | atm yes :) |
| 01:58.54 | lennert | my intel board was buggered too |
| 01:59.28 | bullet | yeah, and that's a real shame |
| 01:59.33 | lennert | i think the bad caps problem struck across the board |
| 01:59.39 | lennert | if you weren't affected, you were lucky |
| 01:59.49 | bullet | yah |
| 01:59.54 | lennert | even the Nichion caps were buggered |
| 02:00.09 | bullet | really? didn't know that. thought they were all ok |
| 02:00.49 | lennert | hmm |
| 02:01.33 | bullet | well, it's not that bad if you can replace the caps yourself. but getting the right one's isn't that easy, and cost way to much. still, i think i am going to fix my board |
| 02:01.42 | lennert | yeah |
| 02:01.48 | lennert | well, if you don't fix it it's lost |
| 02:01.53 | lennert | if you have it fixed, it's expensive |
| 02:02.13 | bullet | and if i buy something new, it blows after 2 years anyway! ;) |
| 02:02.45 | lennert | well |
| 02:02.53 | lennert | that can be a desirable property ;) |
| 02:02.59 | bullet | hehe |
| 02:03.26 | lennert | for fuses, i prefer that they blow when they don't have to instead of not blowing when they have to |
| 02:03.49 | bullet | sure |
| 02:03.51 | lennert | hmm, can't find it now |
| 02:04.08 | lennert | but i remember (vaguely) reading something that nichion also had a bunch of bad caps |
| 02:04.34 | lennert | anyway |
| 02:04.45 | lennert | there's a bunch of jtag drivers to implement :P |
| 02:04.53 | lennert | parallel jtag, Loft jtag, and via epia jtag |
| 02:05.18 | bullet | hehe |
| 02:10.53 | ka6sox-office | which version of the epia are you using? epia-M or Eden? |
| 02:11.06 | lennert | PD10000 has a C3, i think |
| 02:11.11 | bullet | pd10000 would be a nehemia |
| 02:11.13 | lennert | oh |
| 02:11.14 | lennert | nehemia |
| 02:11.15 | lennert | yeah |
| 02:11.23 | lennert | model name : VIA Nehemiah |
| 02:11.32 | bullet | the pd6000 is a samuel2 |
| 02:11.44 | lennert | samuel :P |
| 02:11.52 | lennert | my first gf left me for a guy named samuel |
| 02:11.57 | lennert | no samuels for me, uh-uh |
| 02:12.01 | bullet | hehe |
| 02:14.08 | lennert | i think the nehemiah is the one without crypto ops |
| 02:14.13 | lennert | at least, mine doesn't seem to support them |
| 02:14.15 | lennert | which is kind of a shame |
| 02:14.23 | lennert | hw crypto would have been nice |
| 02:14.25 | bullet | really? afaik it should have |
| 02:14.32 | lennert | hm |
| 02:14.41 | lennert | i tried a while back |
| 02:14.47 | lennert | my stepping is too old or something |
| 02:14.51 | lennert | is there a test app anywhere? |
| 02:14.58 | bullet | no idea |
| 02:15.27 | lennert | hmmm |
| 02:15.33 | lennert | after i do the GPIOs this is something i should try |
| 02:15.39 | lennert | (try again) |
| 02:18.17 | lennert | [g2]: i can't find the digilent fly lead cable? |
| 02:19.44 | bullet | there seems to be a C5XL and a C5P nehemia. the first one only has hardware RNG |
| 02:20.09 | lennert | what are the models/steppings? |
| 02:20.13 | lennert | i have.. |
| 02:20.16 | lennert | cpu family : 6 |
| 02:20.17 | lennert | model : 9 |
| 02:20.21 | lennert | stepping : 5 |
| 02:20.31 | lennert | flags : fpu de pse tsc msr cx8 mtrr pge cmov mmx fxsr sse rng rng_en |
| 02:20.42 | lennert | i probably have a c5xl then |
| 02:20.58 | lennert | bbi15m |
| 02:21.11 | bullet | looks like, yeah |
| 02:22.17 | [g2] | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.32 | [g2] | for when you're back |
| 02:22.48 | [g2] | 6-pin MTE |
| 02:52.10 | lennert | right, that one |
| 02:52.16 | lennert | i saw it but didn't think it was it |
| 02:52.23 | lennert | i can't use that as-is on the epia |
| 02:52.34 | lennert | cause three of the four GP outputs are open drain |
| 02:54.05 | lennert | where do you guys buy ribbon cable and connectors and such? |
| 02:57.17 | ka6sox-office | Nememiah II is AES crypto stuff. |
| 03:14.09 | lennert | ok, bed time for me |
| 03:14.11 | lennert | g'nite all |
| 03:20.26 | ka6sox-office | nite Lennert |
| 04:04.13 | beewoolie-afk | nite all |
| 05:04.58 | cpage_ | nichion messed up in a different way - they put too much electrolyte in |
| 05:05.15 | cpage_ | the GSC, Jack'on' et al caps used a bad copy of the rubicon formula |
| 05:05.39 | cpage_ | can't blame the vendors such as intel for using Nichions that blow up, but you can blame VIA for using GSC ;) |
| 05:05.58 | cpage_ | now... new vias do use japanese caps |
| 05:06.11 | cpage_ | the first model used sanyo, so it's *really* via's fault for switching |
| 05:07.08 | cpage_ | and yeah - i think the dual c3 board is too much. it'll look pretty embarrasing once yonah comes out! |
| 05:08.32 | bullet | exactly! |
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| 12:12.08 | lennert | ok, so, toggling the GPIOs on the pd10000 does actually work |
| 12:12.41 | lennert | i.e., the levels change |
| 12:25.30 | vmaster_ | pd10000? |
| 12:35.36 | lennert | via epia pd10000 mini-itx mainboard :) |
| 12:36.40 | lennert | it has 8 exposed gpios |
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| 12:37.57 | lennert | is it hard to make a parallel cable 3 to parallel cable 4 adapter (so that i can program a device with a PC4 socket with a PC3 cable)? |
| 12:38.02 | lennert | it doesn't seem hard.. |
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| 14:30.32 | lennert | the xilinx system ace docs keep saying that it's possible to configure the CFG JTAG port from the TST JTAG port |
| 14:30.42 | lennert | but i can't find any special instruction codes in the .bsd file |
| 14:30.50 | lennert | and there's no other docs about it |
| 14:31.22 | lennert | i really hope there's another way of doing it than using SAMPLE/EXTEST.. but i guess not :-/ |
| 14:35.28 | lennert | ah |
| 14:35.33 | lennert | i think ds080 has a typo on page 33 |
| 14:35.48 | lennert | CFGTDO in figure 17 should be TSTTDO, and TSTTDO should be CFGTDO |
| 14:35.57 | lennert | if you look at it that way, it's indeed not possible directly |
| 14:46.43 | lennert | or, well.. |
| 14:46.48 | lennert | the usb2 interface cpld is on the 'test jtag chain' side |
| 14:46.55 | lennert | and impact does recognise it |
| 14:47.03 | lennert | so maybe there's some sekrit opcodes in the system ace |
| 15:06.19 | lennert | i wonder if they disconnect the PC4 when the XC2C256 is active |
| 15:10.19 | vmaster | what board are you talking about? the digilent spartan3? |
| 15:11.01 | lennert | the digilent xupv2p |
| 15:11.13 | lennert | i.e. virtex2 pro |
| 17:06.58 | ka6sox | morning |
| 17:07.12 | ka6sox | ep1220: ping? |
| 17:09.02 | lennert | okay, the platform usb cable can do it |
| 17:09.09 | lennert | it's just not documented (as usual, with xilinx) |
| 17:13.29 | ka6sox | ah |
| 17:13.40 | ka6sox | this is the V2Pro? |
| 17:13.43 | lennert | ka6sox: you had your v2pro course yet? |
| 17:13.45 | lennert | yeah |
| 17:13.47 | lennert | the digilent v2p board |
| 17:14.04 | ka6sox | that course starts jan 6 |
| 17:14.09 | lennert | ah |
| 17:14.21 | ka6sox | my board is skedded to get here by the 2ond |
| 17:14.35 | lennert | while you're at it, ask them why the bitstream format isn't open ;) |
| 17:14.42 | lennert | ka6sox: which board are you getting? |
| 17:14.49 | ka6sox | same as you. |
| 17:14.52 | lennert | ah |
| 17:14.55 | lennert | the xupv2p one |
| 17:14.59 | ka6sox | yep |
| 17:15.13 | lennert | i kind of have it working |
| 17:15.36 | lennert | but it's just so cumbersome to have to load your config to a compatflash card, putt it in the board, put it back, etc. |
| 17:17.24 | ka6sox | yep. |
| 17:17.34 | ka6sox | gotta go fix the Water Heater... |
| 17:17.51 | lennert | maybe it has jtag ;) |
| 17:20.04 | vmaster | heh, i wouldn't be surpised if it had |
| 17:29.22 | lennert | actually, it's probably easier than i thought |
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| 18:55.48 | lennert | so |
| 18:55.53 | lennert | it's not actually clear from the system ace docs |
| 18:56.07 | lennert | but the idea is that you splice the system ace into the middle of your boundary scan chain somewhere |
| 18:56.19 | lennert | when it's not configuring your devices, it'll just pass everything through |
| 18:56.35 | lennert | but if it is configuring your devices, it'll shut off the host side from the fpga side |
| 18:57.28 | lennert | some of the diagrams are faulty too |
| 19:30.25 | vmaster | if you live in the U.S., you should check the avnet website |
| 19:30.50 | vmaster | Antti Lukas writes in comp.arch.fpga that avnet offers spartan3e boards free of charge |
| 19:31.51 | lennert | yeah, i know |
| 19:31.57 | lennert | i've been trying to get registered with avnet |
| 19:32.06 | lennert | just click on the 'register' link -- you get a 404 page |
| 19:32.10 | lennert | emailed them about it a few days |
| 19:32.14 | lennert | ago, heard nothing yet |
| 19:32.42 | lennert | okay, they fixed it now |
| 19:35.38 | lennert | registration confirmation is still broken |
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| 20:54.47 | lennert | i'm about halfway hacking something up that'll sample a couple of pins and send an ethernet packet every second with the values of those pins |
| 20:55.19 | lennert | next step is to also make the virtex receive ethernet frame |
| 20:55.20 | lennert | s |
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| 23:03.57 | beewoolie-afk | [g2]: hey man. Are you going to be using stock part sold by, erm, that other company that uses Cirrus chips? |
| 23:10.03 | lennert | linux doesn't support the cirrus ep9301, does it? |
| 23:18.22 | beewoolie-afk | If it doesn't,it'll be easy to add. |
| 23:18.45 | beewoolie-afk | hi, lennert |
| 23:18.52 | beewoolie-afk | Did you get a DMM? |
| 23:19.33 | lennert | beewoolie-afk: why so? |
| 23:19.43 | lennert | beewoolie-afk: nope, not yet -- can't find it anywhere in the neigbourhood |
| 23:19.52 | beewoolie-afk | Why will it be easy? |
| 23:20.00 | lennert | yeah, why will it be easy? |
| 23:20.18 | beewoolie-afk | It's an arm9 core. The only tricky part about these processors is the interrupt handlers. |
| 23:20.25 | lennert | okay.. |
| 23:20.28 | beewoolie-afk | I've done four already. |
| 23:20.45 | beewoolie-afk | One more won't be tough. |
| 23:21.02 | lennert | are they different enough to have separate mach-blah dirs? |
| 23:21.06 | beewoolie-afk | We have a cs8900 driver already. |
| 23:21.11 | beewoolie-afk | Don't know. |
| 23:21.17 | beewoolie-afk | it depends on the interrupt handling code. |
| 23:21.21 | lennert | okay, so, where did _you_ put the files? :) |
| 23:21.24 | beewoolie-afk | or, rather, the core. |
| 23:21.31 | lennert | cs8900 is the ugliest driver i've ever seen.. |
| 23:21.31 | beewoolie-afk | I support the sharp LH processors. |
| 23:21.45 | beewoolie-afk | I have two directories, one for the ARM9's and another for the ARM7's. |
| 23:21.51 | beewoolie-afk | lol |
| 23:21.55 | beewoolie-afk | I haven't looked at it. |
| 23:22.07 | lennert | cs8900 is like the local town whore |
| 23:22.22 | lennert | everybody keeps adding their hacks to make it work on their boards |
| 23:22.24 | beewoolie-afk | I have a board here with that chip, but it doesn't recognize my jtag for some reason. |
| 23:22.25 | lennert | so it's ifdef spaghetti |
| 23:22.34 | beewoolie-afk | Sounds like it needs some love. |
| 23:22.39 | lennert | yeah |
| 23:22.43 | lennert | some rewriting |
| 23:22.49 | beewoolie-afk | That too. |
| 23:23.12 | lennert | there's an ixdp board with a cs8900 |
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| 23:23.24 | lennert | normally the registers have 16bit spacing |
| 23:23.29 | lennert | but on the ixdp2401, they have 32bit spacing |
| 23:23.39 | lennert | there's some real ugly hacks for that |
| 23:23.40 | beewoolie-afk | prplague has a cs8900 using board, too. |
| 23:23.48 | lennert | i don't have any cs8900 board myself.. |
| 23:23.55 | beewoolie-afk | It should be done as it is in the smc91x driver. |
| 23:23.56 | lennert | i just work on deepak's ixdps remotely |
| 23:24.04 | beewoolie-afk | All of the wierd stuff is in some macros. |
| 23:24.09 | beewoolie-afk | The code is relatively simple. |
| 23:24.12 | lennert | yeah |
| 23:24.19 | lennert | well |
| 23:24.19 | lennert | :) |
| 23:24.28 | lennert | did you have breakfast yet? |
| 23:24.37 | beewoolie-afk | Uh, huh. And lunch. |
| 23:24.45 | lennert | okay |
| 23:24.49 | beewoolie-afk | I am not talking about the cs8900 at the moment. |
| 23:24.51 | lennert | check include/asm-arm/arch-ixp2000/io.h |
| 23:25.01 | lennert | grep for #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_IXDP2X01 |
| 23:25.02 | beewoolie-afk | The smc91x driver is, more or less, a straightforward driver. |
| 23:25.07 | lennert | (and try to keep your food in..) |
| 23:25.38 | lennert | note that this code gets run on _every_ I/O access on these platforms |
| 23:25.46 | beewoolie-afk | Oh good god NO!!!!! |
| 23:25.51 | lennert | mu ha ha ha ha |
| 23:26.05 | beewoolie-afk | BAD BAD is should burn in a pit of lead. |
| 23:26.11 | lennert | yup |
| 23:26.12 | beewoolie-afk | ACK MY EYES |
| 23:26.16 | lennert | lol |
| 23:26.18 | lennert | hahaha |
| 23:26.22 | beewoolie-afk | OK. That is inexcusable |
| 23:26.24 | lennert | yeah |
| 23:26.29 | lennert | it was either that or hack cs8900 even further |
| 23:26.50 | beewoolie-afk | If I have a board, I'll take a look at writing some new code for it. |
| 23:26.51 | lennert | http://ixp2xxx.sourceforge.net/cs89x0/ tries to clean it up |
| 23:27.01 | lennert | and it moves the ixdp-specific stuff into cs89x0 itself |
| 23:27.06 | beewoolie-afk | It should be a generic driver, like the smc91x. |
| 23:27.11 | lennert | but it didn't get accepted upstream |
| 23:27.32 | beewoolie-afk | Sounds like a proprietary issue. IOW, someone wants to *own* it. |
| 23:27.43 | beewoolie-afk | There have been several rewrites of bad drivers. |
| 23:27.53 | lennert | it doesn't really have a maintainer, too |
| 23:28.04 | lennert | i would maintain it if i had hardware |
| 23:28.08 | lennert | but i don't |
| 23:28.14 | lennert | and i need to bug deepak to check stuff for me |
| 23:28.34 | beewoolie-afk | As is usually the case, especially for embedded stuff. |
| 23:28.40 | lennert | jeff garzik just applies reasonable patcges |
| 23:28.52 | lennert | mine probably looked too big |
| 23:28.59 | lennert | and noone acked it |
| 23:29.04 | lennert | yeah |
| 23:29.14 | beewoolie-afk | Sometimes it takes some persistence. |
| 23:29.24 | lennert | true |
| 23:29.25 | beewoolie-afk | That is, sometimes it takes more than is reasonable. |
| 23:29.34 | beewoolie-afk | But, that's how these things seem to work. |
| 23:29.43 | lennert | but if i'm going to put effort into it anyway.. i might as well rewrite it as a platform device |
| 23:29.52 | lennert | and be its maintainer |
| 23:30.00 | beewoolie-afk | Right. |
| 23:30.04 | lennert | (or someone else) |
| 23:30.21 | beewoolie-afk | I have the data sheet somewhere... |
| 23:30.33 | lennert | AOL |
| 23:31.23 | beewoolie-afk | Yep, it's right here. |
| 23:31.32 | beewoolie-afk | America OnLine? |
| 23:31.41 | lennert | AOL = "Me too!" |
| 23:32.09 | lennert | i.e. i have the datasheet somewhere too |
| 23:32.39 | beewoolie-afk | Yeah. I'll give it a read. usually, I start with a driver for APEX and work from that. |
| 23:36.22 | beewoolie-afk | I remember this chip. I had a problem with one where the eeprom wasn' t properly programmed. |
| 23:37.21 | lennert | eep! rom |
