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01:46.24 | [g2] | lennert I mean there are major trends and fluctuations along the way |
01:46.38 | [g2] | the major trend may be up or down or sidways |
01:46.42 | [g2] | sideways |
01:47.20 | [g2] | but thing are never always uni-directional |
01:47.24 | [g2] | clearer ? |
01:47.49 | lennert | no :( |
01:47.58 | lennert | what were you referring to when you spoke about trends/spikes? |
01:49.02 | [g2] | long term relationships |
01:49.47 | lennert | okay |
01:50.01 | lennert | so if i'd start swearing at you on a daily basis, that would worry you, but this didn't? |
01:50.30 | [g2] | well maybe after a couple weeks I'd start to wonder |
01:50.46 | [g2] | the wife could just be on holiday right ? |
01:50.49 | [g2] | :) |
01:50.53 | lennert | 'couple weeks' := 'couple weeks of abuse'? :) |
01:51.01 | [g2] | nod |
01:51.32 | [g2] | my skin is quite thick |
01:51.41 | lennert | okay |
01:51.44 | lennert | i'm glad then |
01:52.08 | lennert | i'm not an evil person, i think |
01:52.10 | lennert | :) |
01:52.23 | lennert | anyway, it's 4am here now |
01:52.24 | [g2] | no you're a very nice person |
01:52.35 | lennert | [g2]: and moody |
01:52.55 | [g2] | humans == moody |
01:53.04 | [g2] | robots != moody |
01:53.18 | lennert | yeah |
01:53.23 | lennert | it's a pain sometimes though |
01:53.25 | lennert | :) |
01:53.30 | lennert | anyway |
01:53.35 | lennert | since i have to get up at 7am tomorrow |
01:53.43 | lennert | either i go to bed now or i'll just stay up |
01:53.49 | [g2] | well you just got married a little while ago -- you don't know that half of it :) |
01:54.01 | [g2] | sweet dreams |
01:54.10 | lennert | actually, nothing at all changed when i got married |
01:54.19 | lennert | and even after 6 months, nothing changed |
01:54.32 | [g2] | wait for 6 or 10 years |
01:54.49 | ka6sox-office | or 13 like me |
01:54.57 | lennert | oh yeah, i'm sure things will change eventually |
01:55.05 | [g2] | if you're lucky, it'll keep getting better, but more difficult at the same time |
01:55.06 | lennert | but also if we wouldn't have married things would have changed eventually |
01:55.51 | [g2] | someone once said "He who travels alone, travels fastest" |
01:56.10 | lennert | "He who travels with someone else has more fun along the way." |
01:56.11 | [g2] | often there are things more important than just speed |
01:56.18 | lennert | yeah |
01:56.27 | lennert | RAM size |
01:56.51 | [g2] | CACHE size |
01:56.53 | lennert | number of gigabit interfaces |
01:56.55 | lennert | yeah ;) |
01:57.16 | [g2] | all is well, go to sleep happy |
01:57.22 | lennert | yeah |
01:57.37 | [g2] | allow that short-term memory to get to the long-term side |
01:57.39 | ka6sox-office | nite lennert |
01:57.45 | lennert | thanks for your nice wishes |
01:57.45 | [g2] | sweet dreams |
01:57.49 | [g2] | np |
01:57.54 | lennert | and good night all |
01:57.58 | [g2] | thanks for all your help and patience |
01:58.15 | lennert | back tomorrow for some more hot debian action! |
01:58.21 | lennert | [g2]: with pleasure |
01:58.24 | [g2] | yee ha! |
01:58.24 | lennert | g'nite! |
01:58.50 | [g2] | Yippe Kiaye ... ! |
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06:58.04 | dyoung-away | Bah |
06:58.26 | dyoung-away | He who travels alone, does UBE. |
07:45.46 | ka6sox-office | hi |
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09:05.59 | lennert | dyoung-away: is that some chinese wisdom? :) |
09:06.45 | ka6sox-office | actuually....it is |
09:07.00 | lennert | hehe |
09:07.22 | ka6sox-office | yep...we are seriously hacking my poor l00d :) |
09:14.06 | ka6sox-office | did you already go? |
09:14.14 | lennert | i just came back |
09:14.19 | ka6sox-office | cool |
09:14.22 | ka6sox-office | and the meet came off? |
09:14.30 | lennert | when the guy comes home (in the evening) he'll sign my key |
09:14.45 | lennert | so.. 12hrs from now i'll have my DD signature |
09:14.58 | ka6sox-office | :) |
09:15.02 | ka6sox-office | coolies |
09:16.21 | lennert | yeah |
09:31.15 | dyoung-away | Woo hoo! |
09:31.47 | dyoung-away | I should beg someone for sponsorship soon. |
09:39.43 | lennert | yeah |
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13:43.47 | ep1220 | [g2]: pong |
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15:50.55 | [g2] | ep1220-log doh! |
15:51.16 | [g2] | ep1220-log how's the board ? |
15:51.59 | [g2] | and I'm guessing I don't need anything other the TRSTN and System reset other than the normal JTAG connectors to do the Icache loading trick |
16:37.16 | ep1220 | [g2]: The 2 reset lines are all You need. |
17:16.23 | [g2] | ep1220-log THX |
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21:39.18 | lennert | ka6sox-office: i have pong 0.0.1 ready and waiting |
21:39.41 | lennert | ka6sox-office: top.sch is now top.vhd, and it includes a Makefile to enable building with the linux web pack |
21:51.10 | dyoung-away | Woo |
21:51.18 | dyoung-away | t! |
21:59.27 | lennert | the advantage being that i have linux everywhere, while if i want to use windows, i have to drag my via epia box along in my backpack |
22:00.20 | dyoung-away | apt-get install webpack |
22:00.31 | lennert | kind of, yes |
22:00.37 | lennert | it works quite nicely |
22:00.42 | lennert | their gui shite is even more shite than under windows |
22:00.46 | lennert | but at least the command line tools work |
22:00.54 | lennert | and i have their gazillion extensions figured out now |
22:01.06 | lennert | bgn bit bld drc ncd ngc ngd ngr pad par pcf spl sym syr xpi |
22:01.13 | dyoung-away | Yeah those |
22:01.25 | lennert | i have no idea what file is what |
22:01.30 | lennert | but i at least know which tool generates what |
22:01.52 | dyoung-away | me neither, all thats really important is the ucf and vhd.. I think you can get the rest from those. |
22:02.01 | lennert | yes |
22:02.09 | lennert | create ngc ngr syr from vhd |
22:02.15 | lennert | create bld ngd from ngc ucf |
22:02.27 | lennert | create mrp ncd ngm pcf from ngd |
22:02.33 | lennert | create ncd pad par xpi from ncd pcf |
22:02.35 | lennert | create bit from ncd |
22:02.38 | lennert | ta da =p |
22:02.48 | lennert | only five easy stept |
22:02.51 | lennert | steps |
22:02.57 | dyoung-away | Yep |
22:03.05 | dyoung-away | I suppose you hae a makefile for all this now |
22:03.07 | dyoung-away | too |
22:03.09 | lennert | yup |
22:03.21 | dyoung-away | I should borrow it. :-) |
22:03.28 | lennert | i will send it |
22:03.40 | lennert | just applying finishing touches |
22:03.53 | dyoung-away | thats the other reason why I need to stay with windows daily. The first reason is a motorola cross compiler that only runs under windows. |
22:05.12 | lennert | yeah |
22:05.18 | lennert | ok, top.vhd needs rewriting by hand |
22:05.24 | lennert | but i'll just put online what i have |
22:06.15 | lennert | i also have a small tool that allows you to upload the .bit via parallel jtag, but openwince can probably do that too, right |
22:06.23 | lennert | ? |
22:09.52 | dyoung-away | Is that just plain 'ol binary? |
22:09.59 | lennert | .bit ? |
22:10.02 | dyoung-away | yeah |
22:10.03 | lennert | yeah, .bit is binary |
22:10.26 | dyoung-away | open-wince tool should be able to do it. |
22:10.54 | lennert | it supports xilinx-style in-circuit programming? |
22:12.04 | lennert | http://www.wantstofly.org/~buytenh/vhdl/pong-0.0.1.tar.gz |
22:12.19 | dyoung-away | Theres a BDSL for a couple of Xilinx parts. |
22:12.23 | lennert | rgbding.vhd is slightly buggy but i'll fix that later |
22:12.36 | lennert | dyoung-away: BSDL doesn't mean that it supports that |
22:12.47 | lennert | dyoung-away: BSDL is just the description of the scan chain for INTEST and EXTEST and SAMPLE |
22:13.06 | lennert | dyoung-away: in-circuit programming uses a totally different 'scan chain' |
22:13.13 | dyoung-away | Right; but knowing about the ... oh. |
22:13.22 | dyoung-away | I dunno then |
22:14.02 | dyoung-away | It probably doesnt. |
22:14.46 | lennert | i've not used it so far |
22:14.47 | lennert | anyway |
22:14.49 | lennert | bed time |
22:14.51 | lennert | g'nite all |
22:14.56 | dyoung-away | ok |
22:14.58 | dyoung-away | nite. |
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