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| 10:16.10 | lennert | dyoung-zzzz: i have pricing info from nallatech |
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| 10:18.34 | lennert | sticker shock? :) |
| 10:18.55 | lennert | it's a pdf file.. let me open it |
| 10:19.05 | dyoung-zzzz | should I be preparing for cardiac arrest instead? |
| 10:19.07 | lennert | waaaah |
| 10:19.10 | lennert | yeah |
| 10:19.28 | lennert | BenNUEY-PCI-4E-X-Y-B |
| 10:19.33 | lennert | that's the PCI base board |
| 10:19.40 | lennert | sets you back E11617,- |
| 10:19.50 | dyoung-zzzz | HOLY MOTHER OF .... !!! |
| 10:20.33 | lennert | the BenBLUE-III module with a -6 speed grade XC2VP100.. you can guess :) |
| 10:21.02 | dyoung-zzzz | E10000 ? |
| 10:21.05 | lennert | haha |
| 10:21.08 | lennert | E31775 |
| 10:21.15 | dyoung-zzzz | HOLY EFF! |
| 10:21.34 | lennert | an IP license for their double precision floating point core.. |
| 10:21.41 | lennert | what's your guess? |
| 10:21.46 | dyoung-zzzz | E30000 |
| 10:21.51 | lennert | almost - E15000 |
| 10:21.52 | dyoung-zzzz | maybe E50000 |
| 10:21.58 | dyoung-zzzz | sheesh! |
| 10:22.02 | dyoung-zzzz | is that for a single core? |
| 10:22.10 | dyoung-zzzz | or for as many as fit on the BenNUEY ? |
| 10:22.12 | lennert | doesn't say |
| 10:22.14 | lennert | haha |
| 10:22.19 | lennert | yeah, maybe you need 1000 of those licenses |
| 10:22.36 | lennert | i assume it's a license for unlimited use but not distribution |
| 10:22.43 | lennert | but it doesn't say specifically |
| 10:22.45 | dyoung-zzzz | ouch. |
| 10:22.59 | lennert | the other software you need from them is E5000,- per user |
| 10:23.10 | lennert | so.. i guess this is a case of thanks but no thanks |
| 10:23.22 | lennert | unless me and the uni become billionaires overnight |
| 10:23.24 | dyoung-zzzz | I guess we need to become IP Developers. |
| 10:23.42 | dyoung-zzzz | Pong Core only E5000 ! |
| 10:23.46 | lennert | lol |
| 10:23.48 | lennert | indeed |
| 10:23.57 | lennert | raunchiest vhdl you've ever seen |
| 10:24.10 | dyoung-zzzz | I still want to have a peek someday. :-) |
| 10:24.18 | lennert | oh, sure |
| 10:24.23 | lennert | it's still pretty buggy |
| 10:24.32 | lennert | i can send it to you, or we can upload it to opencores ;) |
| 10:24.48 | dyoung-zzzz | As you like. |
| 10:24.53 | lennert | opencores.net/ube/ |
| 10:24.56 | dyoung-zzzz | heh |
| 10:25.10 | dyoung-zzzz | When ka6sox gets back we can finish setting up s3projects |
| 10:25.18 | lennert | oh, right |
| 10:25.25 | lennert | that'd perhaps be a better place |
| 10:25.34 | lennert | opencores is more for people who come there for finished cores |
| 10:25.39 | dyoung-zzzz | Hes setting up this digital radio station in neworeleans. |
| 10:25.56 | dyoung-zzzz | http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/New-Orleans |
| 10:26.20 | dyoung-zzzz | using OGG streams and other trickery. |
| 10:26.43 | lennert | nice |
| 10:26.45 | lennert | hope radio ? |
| 10:27.04 | dyoung-zzzz | Dunno, name of station perhaps. |
| 10:27.18 | lennert | who's the guy on picture #4? |
| 10:27.31 | dyoung-zzzz | Dunno him either. |
| 10:27.50 | dyoung-zzzz | I was hoping he would take more pictures. |
| 10:28.02 | dyoung-zzzz | I think at least 2 tower climbs are involved. |
| 10:28.08 | lennert | wow |
| 10:29.09 | lennert | the pong core is really simple, btw |
| 10:29.27 | lennert | for the display part, there are two up counters |
| 10:29.46 | dyoung-zzzz | anyways, if you feel ok about the clensiness of the code, you can just mail me. Its just for my info. |
| 10:29.46 | lennert | one counts up to 799 and the other one counts up to 521 |
| 10:30.10 | lennert | the 799-one is driven by the 50mhz chopped in half with a t-flipflop |
| 10:30.18 | lennert | the 521-one is driven by the carry of the 799-one |
| 10:30.29 | lennert | the 799 counter is for the x position, the 521 counter for the y position |
| 10:30.47 | lennert | then there's maybe 15 lines of code to translate (x,y) into (0,1) |
| 10:31.06 | lennert | i.e. 'should i draw a pixel here' which is a simple combinatorial function of the positions of the paddles and the ball |
| 10:31.18 | dyoung-zzzz | cool... |
| 10:31.51 | dyoung-zzzz | In theory I should be able to do something similar with my LCD. |
| 10:32.13 | lennert | btw, i think i'll give in and get the virtex pro board anyway |
| 10:32.23 | dyoung-zzzz | Ok |
| 10:32.53 | lennert | and the video decoder board |
| 10:33.01 | dyoung-zzzz | woo ! |
| 10:33.13 | lennert | and i'll just hack that shit up, heh :) |
| 10:33.28 | dyoung-zzzz | I should buy one too, so I can try keep up. :-) |
| 10:33.54 | lennert | "Hack my shit up.", the new song by the Prodigy |
| 10:34.07 | lennert | well, they _are_ really nice boards |
| 10:34.15 | lennert | and, well.. i'm young only once :) |
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| 22:00.20 | NAiL | [g2]: ping? |
| 22:16.44 | [g2] | NAiL, ping |
| 22:17.04 | NAiL | just wondering... what must be done to get the ixp nic working in apex? |
| 22:17.13 | NAiL | is it at all possible ? ;) |
| 22:17.51 | [g2] | NAiL very possible, but probably much easier to just build redboot |
| 22:18.17 | [g2] | there's also licensing issues there too |
| 22:18.19 | NAiL | yeah, but I like apex much better ;) |
| 22:18.32 | [g2] | I'm running the 2.01 stuff |
| 22:18.46 | NAiL | 2.01? Redboot? |
| 22:19.00 | [g2] | yeah with the 1.5 CSR built in |
| 22:19.03 | bullet | i even built redboot from cvs |
| 22:19.15 | [g2] | bullet which version ? |
| 22:19.16 | NAiL | nice, I'll have to look at how to do that... |
| 22:19.26 | NAiL | but... how can I test redboot without flashing? |
| 22:19.36 | bullet | cvs 2005-09-20, ial 2 |
| 22:19.40 | NAiL | I don't like the idea of flashing a nonworking redboot without jtag |
| 22:20.08 | bullet | testing: i loaded redboot.img to ram |
| 22:20.20 | NAiL | good |
| 22:25.36 | [g2] | NAiL buy a Loft :) |
| 22:25.45 | [g2] | I _just_ toasted Redboot |
| 22:25.50 | NAiL | heh |
| 22:25.54 | [g2] | I'll be needing to JTAG to recover |
| 22:26.02 | NAiL | you have ;) |
| 22:26.16 | [g2] | I have ? |
| 22:26.21 | NAiL | I'd like to replace the bootloader on my ds101 anyway |
| 22:26.29 | NAiL | don't you have jtag on the loft? |
| 22:27.04 | [g2] | no I meant I loaded a bad Redboot version and the Loft is waiting for a good bootloader |
| 22:27.48 | NAiL | ah |
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