irclog2html for #openjtag on 20050816

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`03:13.55`	`NAiLzZz`	`[g2]: You're reasonably familiar with the memory map of the slug.. Is it possible to exclude the entire second half of the memory? Would that exclude one of the mem chips, or are they interleaved?`
`03:14.31`	`[g2]`	`interleaved as in 16-bits from each chip`
`03:15.17`	`NAiLzZz`	`hmm.. so "disabling" one of the chips isn't what one would call easy`
`03:15.35`	`[g2]`	`nope`
`03:16.12`	`[g2]`	`but you could probably do byte/half-word writes on 0-1, 4-5, ....`
`03:16.22`	`[g2]`	`or 2-3, 6-7, ....`
`03:16.30`	`NAiLzZz`	`and see which one is faulty?`
`03:16.40`	`[g2]`	`it might help isolate it`
`03:17.00`	`NAiLzZz`	`Ok. I'll need to enlist the help of some skilled asm programmer though ;)`
`03:17.26`	`[g2]`	`actually, hooking up JTAG would be the best`
`03:17.37`	`[g2]`	`I don't know if you can enable Thumb mode.`
`03:18.35`	`NAiLzZz`	`well, I'm in no way jtag-enabled :(`
`03:19.35`	`NAiLzZz`	`I don't have to recompile apex to change the kernel command line, do I?`
`03:20.44`	`[g2]`	`nope`
`03:20.55`	`[g2]`	`just boot .......`
`03:21.10`	`[g2]`	`boot root=....`
`03:21.16`	`NAiLzZz`	`If I can disable say.. 8mb, that might be enough... If the errors are in that part of the memory, that is`
`03:21.40`	`[g2]`	`which 8mb ?`
`03:21.55`	`NAiLzZz`	`the last`
`03:22.12`	`[g2]`	`that's easy mem=56M@0x0...`
`03:22.33`	`NAiLzZz`	`uh, 24M@0x0..., I assume? ;)`
`03:23.25`	`[g2]`	`nod... if is not a fat slug`
`03:23.57`	`NAiLzZz`	`the 0x0... where do I get that from?`
`03:25.49`	`[g2]`	`it's 0x00000000`
`03:25.55`	`[g2]`	`starting at 0`
`03:26.10`	`NAiLzZz`	`Memory: 24MB = 24MB total`
`03:26.10`	`NAiLzZz`	`Memory: 22476KB available (1590K code, 150K data, 80K init)`
`03:26.16`	`[g2]`	`:)`
`03:26.27`	`NAiLzZz`	`ok... Let's see if that makes any difference ;)`
`03:27.31`	`NAiLzZz`	`Is it possible to store the commandline ?`
`03:28.53`	`[g2]`	`it is but I haven't played with it`
`03:29.07`	`NAiLzZz`	`ok, I'll try to figure it out`
`03:29.07`	`[g2]`	`you can just changed the default cmd line and rebuild/reflash APEX`
`03:29.22`	`[g2]`	`Did you save off a copy of your Redboot`
`03:29.36`	`NAiLzZz`	`cough no`
`03:30.08`	`[g2]`	`did you overwrite the second block ? (Block 1)`
`03:30.28`	`NAiLzZz`	`not if I have to do that manually`
`03:30.43`	`[g2]`	`how did you put APEX in there ?`
`03:30.57`	`[g2]`	`dd if=apex of=/dev/mtdblock0 ?`
`03:31.08`	`NAiLzZz`	`I ran apex from redboot, and flashed with the @apex stuff`
`03:31.11`	`NAiLzZz`	`two simple lines`
`03:31.23`	`NAiLzZz`	`$apex maybe it was`
`03:31.43`	`[g2]`	`ok.. I haven't done that`
`03:31.46`	`NAiLzZz`	`So I would assume block 1 isn't erased`
`03:32.01`	`[g2]`	`probably not, but I don't know`
`03:32.22`	`[g2]`	`you can check if it's the same as on all the other nslu2s`
`03:35.39`	`NAiLzZz`	`it would appear that there still is parts of redboot left`
`03:35.39`	`NAiLzZz`	`/home/snowel/work/redboot/packages/devs/eth/intel/npe/v1_0/src/osServices/IxOsBuffPoolMgt.c`
`03:36.08`	`NAiLzZz`	`dd if=mtdblock of=/test ; strings /test`
`03:36.29`	`[g2]`	`well that might be the whole flash`
`03:36.51`	`NAiLzZz`	`512k`
`03:37.05`	`NAiLzZz`	`hmm`
`03:37.11`	`[g2]`	`hmmm.... :)`
`03:37.12`	`NAiLzZz`	`but if I understand apex correctly...`
`03:37.51`	`NAiLzZz`	`I can poweron, stop apex before it boots, erase the two first blocks, then reflash apex`
`03:38.26`	`[g2]`	`I usually just reflash from linux`
`03:38.42`	`[g2]`	`scp image /root/foo.img`
`03:38.58`	`[g2]`	`dd if=foo.img of=/dev/mdtblock0`
`03:39.01`	`[g2]`	`but ymmv`
`03:39.04`	`NAiLzZz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:39.04`	`NAiLzZz`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:39.28`	`[g2]`	`that should work, but I havn't done it that way`
`03:39.36`	`NAiLzZz`	`It worked like a charm`
`03:39.44`	`NAiLzZz`	`I'm impressed by the ease of use ;)`
`03:39.46`	`[g2]`	`I keep a copy of Redboot around`
`03:39.58`	`NAiLzZz`	`Well, it's kinda late for that for me now ;)`
`03:40.04`	`[g2]`	`then I just dd if=reboot of=/dev/mtdblock0`
`03:40.23`	`[g2]`	`actually it may not be`
`03:40.36`	`[g2]`	`you may be able to just overwrite the first 128K`
`03:40.42`	`[g2]`	`which is probably identical for everyone`
`03:41.02`	`NAiLzZz`	`well.. why should I?`
`03:41.03`	`[g2]`	`but you are in a little no-man's land`
`03:41.09`	`[g2]`	`it's up to you`
`03:41.24`	`[g2]`	`you did the copy before ?`
`03:41.37`	`NAiLzZz`	`no, did it just now`
`03:41.44`	`NAiLzZz`	`so I got a mix of apex and redboot :P`
`03:42.07`	`[g2]`	`yeah.. me too it only overwrites the first block`
`03:42.17`	`[g2]`	`but reboot overwrites both`
`03:42.47`	`NAiLzZz`	`hmm`
`03:42.49`	`NAiLzZz`	`odd`
`03:43.07`	`NAiLzZz`	`bzip2 fails in exactly the same way`
`03:43.29`	`[g2]`	`hmm... interesting`
`03:43.41`	`NAiLzZz`	`I'm wondering if that is actually a tar/bzip2 problem`
`03:44.14`	`[g2]`	`what's the md5sum/sha1 on the file ?`
`03:44.23`	`[g2]`	`does it match the servers version ?`
`03:44.29`	`NAiLzZz`	`same as I've got in my downloads dir`
`03:44.34`	`NAiLzZz`	`(which works ok)`
`03:44.44`	`[g2]`	`which tar/bzip2 ?`
`03:44.46`	`[g2]`	`busybox ?`
`03:45.05`	`NAiLzZz`	`no`
`03:45.13`	`NAiLzZz`	`tar and bzip2 ;)`
`03:45.28`	`[g2]`	`talk to the build mgr :)`
`03:45.31`	`[g2]`	`heh`
`03:45.34`	`NAiLzZz`	`:P`
`03:45.46`	`NAiLzZz`	`gonna try repeating it on my stable slug`
`03:45.51`	`[g2]`	`well time for me to get some sleep`
`03:46.16`	`[g2]`	`GL look for me tomorrow if you've got any more questions`
`03:46.50`	`NAiLzZz`	`will do`
`03:48.49`	`NAiLzZz`	`There are some important differences between the environment and aliases. Environment variables are restricted to a list that is defined when APEX is built. New environment variables may not be declared`
`03:49.03`	`NAiLzZz`	`I read that as "you can't change environment variables"`
`03:49.10`	`NAiLzZz`	`but that was wrong ;)`
`03:49.44`	`[g2]`	`heh`
`03:49.51`	`[g2]`	`cheers`
`03:49.54`	`NAiLzZz`	`;)`
`03:57.20`	`NAiLzZz`	`hmm`
`03:57.25`	`NAiLzZz`	`why doesn't apex like this: setenv cmdline console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mtdblock4 rw rootfstype=jffs2 init=/linuxrc mem=24M@0x00000000 noirqdebug`
`03:57.33`	`NAiLzZz`	`Unrecognized variable or environment`
`04:05.22`	`jacques`	`maybe you need some quotes`
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`04:06.27`	`NAiLzZz`	`Tried that as well :(`
`04:06.43`	`NAiLzZz`	`The example is almost identical`
`04:23.30`	`*** join/#openjtag landslide (n=david@202-59-108-2.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
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`05:30.31`	`marina`	`test`
`05:30.44`	`ByronT-Away`	`hello`
`05:31.02`	`ByronT-Away`	`I just pinged Tom, but he's not responding to me either`
`05:31.02`	`marina`	`Just making sure this works. thanks.`
`05:31.25`	`marina`	`I'm his wife...I'm in N. California right now`
`05:31.42`	`marina`	`Just ran across this channel and was testing to see if I'm getting out`
`05:31.50`	`ByronT-Away`	`I figured that out`
`05:31.57`	`jacques`	`hi marina`
`05:32.04`	`marina`	`Hi there`
`05:32.12`	`ByronT-Away`	`he had told me that he was bach'ing it this weekend`
`05:32.12`	`jacques`	`I'm the guy who was with tom at lwe`
`05:32.55`	`ByronT-Away`	`here he comes....`
`05:32.58`	`marina`	`heh, he actually was at LinuxWorld in San Francisco and I came up to meet up with him but he had to go home on an emergency computer crash so I had to do my thing up here without him.`
`05:33.02`	`marina`	`His loss :)`
`05:33.17`	`marina`	`What did you do to find him?`
`05:33.27`	`jacques`	`yeah he wasn't happy that he had to go home to fix a down server`
`05:33.40`	`marina`	`ByronT-Away: Are you the one who lives in Alabama?`
`05:33.48`	`ByronT-Away`	`yes, that's me`
`05:34.00`	`marina`	`Ah coool. Thanks for your Albania support!`
`05:34.14`	`ByronT-Away`	`you're welcome`
`05:34.18`	`marina`	`I'm still meaning to send out a letter with a report of the trip. Have been swamped since our return.`
`05:34.49`	`marina`	`Well I got to see my brother and grandmother this weekend. Will be home Wed. night. I'm sure he will be entertained with "geek stuff" :)`
`05:35.12`	`marina`	`I'm sure you guys keep him quite busy. Now if he will just remember to work...`
`05:35.12`	`ByronT-Away`	`hehe`
`05:35.31`	`marina`	`I found this channel on a list on my grandmother's computer`
`05:35.32`	`ByronT-Away`	`that's a four letter word around here....`
`05:35.34`	`NAiLzZz`	`You're going away, you say? Then he'll have no excuse :D`
`05:36.03`	`marina`	`I am away :)`
`05:36.21`	`marina`	`He can geek out all he wants till i get home ;) He even has a vacation from his son`
`05:36.27`	`NAiLzZz`	`nice`
`05:36.33`	`NAiLzZz`	`We'll keep him busy ;)`
`05:36.34`	`marina`	`For who :)`
`05:36.37`	`*** join/#openjtag ka6sox (n=ka6sox@nslu2-linux/ka6sox)`
`05:36.41`	`marina`	`Welcome`
`05:36.42`	`ka6sox`	`marina?`
`05:36.43`	`NAiLzZz`	`For us ;-)`
`05:36.50`	`ka6sox`	`hi Marina!`
`05:36.58`	`ka6sox`	`I see you have met NAiLzZz`
`05:36.59`	`marina`	`I've become acquainted with all your friends you were trying to hide from me`
`05:36.59`	`ByronT-Away`	`hey! go away`
`05:37.08`	`ByronT-Away`	`we're having fun chatting with your wife`
`05:37.11`	`NAiL`	`yes`
`05:37.14`	`ka6sox`	`NAiL, is in Norway`
`05:37.17`	`NAiL`	`heh`
`05:37.29`	`marina`	`Abut you`
`05:37.30`	`ka6sox`	`he he`
`05:37.44`	`ka6sox`	`ByronT, time for bed!...`
`05:37.45`	`marina`	`And who's the Brit?`
`05:37.46`	`ka6sox`	`j/k`
`05:37.52`	`ka6sox`	`brit?`
`05:37.54`	`NAiL`	`Tiersten`
`05:38.00`	`NAiL`	`innit?`
`05:38.04`	`ka6sox`	`ya`
`05:38.12`	`ByronT`	`yeah, it is... I just finished up making another serial cable, and testing it`
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`05:38.38`	`rwhitby-web`	`hi marina`
`05:38.40`	`NAiL`	`Gotta go... Going to learn how to drive (as if I didn't already know)`
`05:38.44`	`marina`	`Tom, I have a couple questions for you. We can go off channel`
`05:38.46`	`marina`	`Hi there`
`05:38.53`	`ByronT`	`marina, it was nice to chat with you, you're more than welcome to come visit us anytime (even if Tom says you can't)`
`05:39.06`	`ka6sox`	`ha!`
`05:39.10`	`marina`	`HA. Thanks!`
`05:39.22`	`ByronT`	`<- is heading to bed....`
`05:39.24`	`rwhitby-web`	`marina, sorry for giving Tom an excuse to do even more geek stuff than he would normally :-)`
`05:39.26`	`marina`	`I always find his channels. He never hides them well enough :)`
`05:39.42`	`ka6sox`	`rwhitby-web, is the project leader.`
`05:39.45`	`marina`	`Goodnight, ByronT`
`05:39.47`	`ka6sox`	`he's in Oz`
`05:40.02`	`ByronT`	`goodnight to you too, marina`
`05:40.05`	`marina`	`Ah cool`
`05:40.12`	`NAiL`	`he's a wizard as well ;)`
`05:40.13`	`marina`	`I want to go to Australia someday`
`05:40.19`	`rwhitby-web`	`BTW, make sure you keep all that cash that I keep PayPal'ing you - Tom doesn't deserve to get his hands on it :-)`
`05:40.45`	`marina`	`Boy that's for sure!!`
`05:40.54`	`NAiL`	`or forward it to a starving student in cold Norway :-P`
`05:41.11`	`marina`	`I just noticed you are making deposits into the account. Problem is, it's always linked to something on the credit card I have to worm out of Tomm ;)`
`05:41.24`	`NAiL`	`(who just had a lovely breakfast with newly baked bread and stuff)`
`05:41.26`	`ka6sox`	`worm! I told you straight away!`
`05:41.38`	`marina`	`I'll put the money in my Tahiti fund if it's not linked to some electronic purchas. Send any time!`
`05:41.51`	`marina`	`NOT`
`05:42.11`	`marina`	`We are now about to have a cyber-fight. Anyone care to make bets? :)`
`05:42.24`	`NAiL`	`my bets are on marina`
`05:42.29`	`ka6sox`	`ya..me too.`
`05:42.29`	`rwhitby-web`	`My money's on marina too`
`05:42.46`	`marina`	`I'm the responsible one in the family :)`
`05:42.49`	`marina`	`Tom's the engineer`
`05:42.54`	`NAiL`	`rofl`
`05:43.03`	`ka6sox`	`ow ow owwww`
`05:43.04`	`rwhitby-web`	`the two are contradictory ...`
`05:43.06`	`NAiL`	`ugh, I've gotta go.. now that the fun is starting ;)`
`05:43.13`	`marina`	`Oops, I'd better be nice so the money will keep coming :)`
`05:43.15`	`ka6sox`	`enjoy driving.`
`05:43.25`	`NAiL`	`I will`
`05:43.28`	`marina`	`Don't go`
`05:43.30`	`NAiL`	`(try to avoid pedestrians)`
`05:43.45`	`marina`	`You'll get more points if you nail pedestrians`
`05:43.49`	`ka6sox`	`"if you don't like the way NAiL drives...stay off the sidewalk"`
`05:43.50`	`NAiL`	`hahaha`
`05:44.08`	`marina`	`What country are you from NAiL`
`05:44.12`	`NAiL`	`Norway`
`05:44.17`	`ka6sox`	`still in Norway`
`05:44.18`	`marina`	`Ah very nice`
`05:44.21`	`ka6sox`	`Trondheim`
`05:44.26`	`ka6sox`	`I told you that.`
`05:44.31`	`ka6sox`	`when we flew over it.`
`05:44.42`	`marina`	`We were in Kopenhavn recently`
`05:44.56`	`rwhitby-web`	`ka6sox: you're still thinking that marina listens to anything you say .... ;-)`
`05:45.08`	`ka6sox`	`um....guess not.`
`05:45.13`	`marina`	`Not after last night ;)`
`05:45.26`	`NAiL`	`oooh, sordid details?`
`05:45.26`	`rwhitby-web`	`too much information ....`
`05:45.39`	`marina`	`We mystery shop and he "swore" he filled out an online form but I never saw it :)`
`05:45.44`	`NAiL`	`Ugh, gotta be in the city in 10 :(`
`05:46.03`	`NAiL`	`bye folks`
`05:46.03`	`marina`	`Have a good day!`
`05:46.07`	`NAiL`	`you too`
`05:46.13`	`rwhitby-web`	`bye NAiL`
`05:48.01`	`marina`	`Still there Tom?\`
`05:48.14`	`marina`	`Oh oh, I scared him off`
`05:49.01`	`ka6sox`	`yep`
`05:49.19`	`rwhitby-web`	`marina: A big thanks from the project on supporting Tom and allowing him to help us out :-)`
`05:49.20`	`ka6sox`	`bye NAiL`
`05:49.41`	`marina`	`No problem`
`05:50.10`	`rwhitby-web`	`I hope your spending is weekly project salary wisely ....`
`05:50.22`	`rwhitby-web`	`... spending his ....`
`05:50.23`	`marina`	`He seems to be learning a lot and even getting some paid work from it too`
`05:50.32`	`marina`	`ha`
`05:50.51`	`marina`	`Just tell me which deposits in Paypal are salary and I will happily spend it :0`
`05:50.57`	`marina`	`...usualy on bills...`
`05:51.07`	`ka6sox`	`Tahiti Fund is what she calls it.`
`05:51.33`	`marina`	`I'll probably never get to Tahiti but maybe australia someday`
`05:51.41`	`rwhitby-web`	`No, he specifically asked that his salary be paid into a different paypal account .... toms_slush_fund@hide_it_from_marina.org`
`05:52.52`	`marina`	`Ah, not a secret anymore. thanks for the URL`
`05:54.06`	`marina`	`All I have to do is go into his office and count computers and I'll know more money came in ;)`
`05:54.33`	`ka6sox`	`don't look under the counter`
`05:54.43`	`ka6sox`	`oops...gave it away`
`05:54.55`	`marina`	`I'll see what's stored in the oven ;`
`05:55.30`	`ka6sox`	`Rod is the one who rides herd on this bunch....`
`05:56.40`	`marina`	`I see`
`05:57.58`	`rwhitby-web`	`well, it's like herding cats ....`
`05:59.26`	`ka6sox`	`most of the time they go in the same direction..or at least some sembilance`
`06:00.21`	`rwhitby-web`	`oops - that's my home machine`
`06:00.58`	`marina`	`ah, thought you had a clone`
`06:00.58`	`ka6sox`	`oops`
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`06:03.32`	`ka6sox`	`he's baaaaack`
`06:03.35`	`rwhitby-web`	`miau dropped out for some reason ...`
`06:03.42`	`ka6sox`	`hmmm.`
`06:03.53`	`rwhitby-web`	`right at my rotate-logs time ...`
`06:04.00`	`ka6sox`	`ah.`
`06:07.16`	`ka6sox`	`we should show marina the pictures of Slug Central.`
`06:07.44`	`marina`	`Oh boy...`
`06:08.03`	`ka6sox`	`now If I can just remmeber the URL.`
`06:08.05`	`marina`	`I see a lot of penguins`
`06:09.13`	`ka6sox`	`http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central`
`06:11.35`	`ka6sox`	`contrast that with this: http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/gastronomic`
`06:11.45`	`rwhitby-web`	`there's a webcam on the right hand side now too :-)`
`06:12.02`	`marina`	`Are those your products?`
`06:12.22`	`ka6sox`	`yeah..his babies (well..the electronic kind)`
`06:13.12`	`marina`	`heh\`
`06:13.13`	`rwhitby-web`	`http://www.rwhitby.net/elise.html <- my other baby :-)`
`06:14.51`	`ka6sox`	`that ones cuter.`
`06:16.06`	`marina`	`Cute baby`
`06:16.26`	`marina`	`Toom i tought you'd say the electronic one was better`
`06:17.22`	`marina`	`Tom, aren't you happy you left this channel on Nonna's irc list? That's how I fiound you`
`06:17.39`	`ka6sox`	`ya...I thought so.`
`06:17.49`	`ka6sox`	`I was warned by the gang that you were here.`
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`06:18.44`	`ka6sox`	`hi odoc`
`06:19.06`	`odoc`	`hi`
`06:19.21`	`marina`	`Warned huh`
`06:19.45`	`rwhitby-web`	`well, we told him his mistress was here, and he came right over ...`
`06:19.45`	`marina`	`No, 89 year old GRANDMOTHER`
`06:20.09`	`marina`	`And what was he doing before he camme over??`
`06:20.19`	`marina`	`He obviously wasn't with said mistress ;)`
`06:20.27`	`rwhitby-web`	`talking to his other mistress on another channel :-)`
`06:20.34`	`ka6sox`	`nope...I was um...um....`
`06:20.42`	`ka6sox`	`watching TV`
`06:20.52`	`ka6sox`	`the PGA tournament highlights.`
`06:21.12`	`marina`	`We have no TV`
`06:21.32`	`rwhitby-web`	`he never said he was at the house :-)`
`06:21.32`	`ka6sox`	`San Diego is coming in tonight.`
`06:22.14`	`marina`	`Hmmm`
`06:22.24`	`marina`	`I think he's at home. He's been using my computer`
`06:23.14`	`ka6sox`	`I have to be here...because I printed from your computer..and I havent' got the slug remote printing yet.`
`06:25.28`	`marina`	`aha`
`06:25.44`	`marina`	`Tom slug remote prints from mistress's house in Albania`
`06:25.51`	`marina`	`Pretends to be home`
`06:26.40`	`marina`	`Well Tom, I must go to bed`
`06:28.36`	`rwhitby-web`	`night marina`
`06:28.49`	`rwhitby-web`	`thanks for dropping by :-)`
`06:28.51`	`marina`	`It's great meeting you.`
`06:28.52`	`ka6sox`	`nite Marina`
`06:29.00`	`ka6sox`	`see Marina..they do exist`
`06:29.22`	`rwhitby-web`	`no, we're a figment of Tom's imagination ....`
`06:29.34`	`marina`	`I knew rwhitby-away did because I keep seeing deposits to the paypal account. Keep'em coming even if you don't buy anything :)`
`06:29.35`	`ka6sox`	`Got a birth announcement for Andrew....and a picture....He's a King...thats for sure`
`06:29.43`	`ka6sox`	`heh`
`06:29.53`	`marina`	`What color hair`
`06:30.48`	`marina`	`Night Tom and everyone`
`06:30.59`	`ka6sox`	`not much hair..pretty fuzzy`
`06:31.06`	`ka6sox`	`but maybe brown.`
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`07:52.18`	`ka6sox`	`woo hoo....`
`07:52.29`	`ka6sox`	`guess the sidewalks are safe now.`
`07:52.51`	`NAiL`	`once again ;)`
`07:53.27`	`NAiL`	`neet`
`07:53.41`	`NAiL`	`my badslug has oopsed while I was out driving`
`07:53.48`	`NAiL`	`it's not exactly loaded with services`
`07:53.59`	`ka6sox`	`ah.`
`07:57.30`	`NAiL`	`Now, if I could just disable one of the mem chips...`
`07:58.18`	`NAiL`	`Oh well... I've sent a mail to a tv repair shop that has soldered for me before.. See what they want for the job of replacing them`
`07:58.34`	`NAiL`	`I think I've got some working chips somewhere`
`07:59.13`	`NAiL`	`That is, if it is the memory that is failing, of course`
`08:01.12`	`NAiL`	`Anyone know where beewoolie is, btw?`
`08:03.36`	`jacques`	`i haven't seen him in what seems like a long time`
`08:04.00`	`jacques`	`~seen beewoolie`
`08:04.01`	`purl`	`beewoolie <~beewoolie@florence.buici.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #openjtag, 12d 12m 17s ago, saying: 'rwhitby-treo: yo. I'm building a new toolchain.'.`
`08:04.01`	`qbot`	`jacques: i haven't seen 'beewoolie'`
`08:04.03`	`NAiL`	`According to jbot, 12 days`
`08:11.24`	`NAiL`	`oh, gotta dig apex. My slug boots so fast I hardly notice it ;)`
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`17:00.43`	`VoodooZ_Log`	`NAiL, Using openslug? how fast is your whole boot sequence using Apex?`
`17:02.29`	`NAiL`	`VoodooZ_Log: hang on, and I'll check`
`17:03.01`	`VoodooZ_Log`	`No rush. I'm just teasing myself. :)`
`17:04.32`	`NAiL`	`I can't get my serial to work right now for some reason. But it takes 2 secs from poweron to beep`
`17:04.54`	`NAiL`	`I'm booting from flash, so it loads the kernel fast`
`17:06.20`	`NAiL`	`The instant you switch on power, apex has started :)`
`17:06.32`	`NAiL`	`No waiting for to press ctrl-c ;)`
`17:07.20`	`VoodooZ_Log`	`very good.`
`17:07.30`	`VoodooZ_Log`	`I guess openslug is still the biggest bottleneck.`
`17:07.54`	`NAiL`	`Three's not much to optimize away from apex`
`17:08.10`	`NAiL`	`You can shave off one second during boot if you drop the delay`
`17:08.26`	`NAiL`	`But then I don't think you can interrupt it..`
`17:09.41`	`VoodooZ_Work`	`true. but openslug takes much more time so apex is ok at 2-3 secs`
`17:10.03`	`NAiL`	`yeah. The boot process takes a good while`
`17:13.33`	`VoodooZ_Work`	`It's not a big deal but it's kind of ugly for a robot when entering a competition.`
`17:14.12`	`NAiL`	`yeah :(`
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