| 00:00.18 | beewoolie-away | [g2]-solderboy: 115200 |
| 00:00.33 | beewoolie-away | I suppose that should be a config option, too. |
| 00:01.24 | beewoolie-away | The serial drivers don't presently have any kind of support for baud rates other than 115200. |
| 00:01.41 | [g2]-solderboy | hmmm. |
| 00:02.34 | [g2]-solderboy | I tried flashing APEX to a slug this morning |
| 00:04.15 | [g2]-solderboy | I tried on my non-serial slug |
| 00:04.51 | [g2]-solderboy | I think it boots, but ethernet didn't work |
| 00:05.22 | [g2]-solderboy | so I've attached a serial header, but I've got to check the wiring |
| 00:17.01 | beewoolie-away | Interesting. |
| 00:17.22 | beewoolie-away | I got my USB hook-up today. Kinda handy. A 120G USB 2.0 drive for $100. |
| 00:17.46 | [g2]-solderboy | maxtor ? |
| 00:17.54 | beewoolie-away | Seagate. |
| 00:18.11 | beewoolie-away | I'm using an old SCSI enclosure for the power-supply. |
| 00:18.13 | [g2]-solderboy | can you set the spin down on those ? |
| 00:18.20 | beewoolie-away | Don't know. |
| 00:18.36 | beewoolie-away | I think that I can if *any* usb drive can. |
| 00:19.09 | [g2]-solderboy | actually the maxtor drive needs a windows utility to set it on the drive |
| 00:19.16 | [g2]-solderboy | it's in the firmware of the drive |
| 00:19.40 | [g2]-solderboy | usb drives don't implement hdparm via scsi as far as I know |
| 00:20.11 | beewoolie-away | Ah, well. That would be nice, but I'm not too concerned at the moment. |
| 00:20.24 | beewoolie-away | It's really quiet. |
| 00:22.46 | beewoolie-away | It's peculiar that the NPE would work on the avilla and not the slug. |
| 00:23.21 | beewoolie-away | I wonder if the problem is *not* with the NPE setup, but some other component. For example, there may be a GPIO thing we need to do to get the NPE running on the slug. |
| 00:24.07 | [g2]-solderboy | possibly |
| 00:24.26 | [g2]-solderboy | If the serial was working I could check that |
| 00:25.38 | [g2]-solderboy | my soldering skills still suck tremendously, but the improved a bunch today |
| 00:25.53 | [g2]-solderboy | clearly not enough, but they are better |
| 01:34.07 | beewoolie-away | [g2]-solderboy: from the nslu2-linux page it looks like the seagate drives can only be powered-down from Windows. Too bad. |
| 02:14.19 | [g2]-solderboy | nod |
| 02:14.55 | [g2]-solderboy | AHHH.... success.... |
| 02:15.05 | [g2]-solderboy | I'm in on the second serial link to APEX ! |
| 02:15.09 | [g2]-solderboy | woo hool |
| 02:15.14 | [g2]-solderboy | woo hoo! |
| 02:51.33 | [g2]-solderboy | beewoolie-away, around ? |
| 02:51.46 | beewoolie-away | [g2]-solderboy: still here |
| 02:52.06 | [g2]-solderboy | hey I've successfully soldered my first serial connection! |
| 02:52.08 | beewoolie-away | What is the success? |
| 02:52.20 | [g2]-solderboy | and recovered my Slug |
| 02:52.24 | beewoolie-away | Really? You've never had a console on the slug before? |
| 02:52.46 | [g2]-solderboy | No, I've had console, but a friend put the header on for me and shipped me the unit |
| 02:52.58 | beewoolie-away | All right then. |
| 02:53.00 | [g2]-solderboy | I just did the comsys level converter |
| 02:53.05 | beewoolie-away | Right. |
| 02:53.28 | [g2]-solderboy | but today I did both, the header (which is all *fscked up*) and the comsys which is pretty nice |
| 02:53.45 | [g2]-solderboy | most importantly, it's working |
| 02:53.50 | beewoolie-away | Nice work. |
| 02:53.51 | [g2]-solderboy | and I got cosole |
| 02:53.58 | beewoolie-away | consolder |
| 02:54.15 | [g2]-solderboy | I broke down and got a soldering workstation |
| 02:54.27 | [g2]-solderboy | that makes a difference |
| 02:54.32 | beewoolie-away | I agree. |
| 02:54.42 | beewoolie-away | Magnifying lense, too |
| 02:54.42 | [g2]-solderboy | So back to APEX |
| 02:54.43 | beewoolie-away | ? |
| 02:54.46 | [g2]-solderboy | nod. |
| 02:54.51 | [g2]-solderboy | with clip holders |
| 02:55.00 | [g2]-solderboy | and handheld with light |
| 02:55.02 | beewoolie-away | Are we still unable to get the slug to see the network with APEX? |
| 02:55.09 | [g2]-solderboy | yes |
| 02:55.17 | beewoolie-away | Bad luck. |
| 02:55.17 | [g2]-solderboy | that's how I got into this mess |
| 02:55.31 | [g2]-solderboy | I don't think it's bad luck. |
| 02:55.39 | [g2]-solderboy | I works on the avila board :) |
| 02:55.47 | beewoolie-away | Well, it means that there is something else that redboot is doing. I'm wondering if the is a GPIO connection to the PHY. |
| 02:56.27 | [g2]-solderboy | well, I was thinking about writing a program to dump all this IXP internal registers |
| 02:56.52 | [g2]-solderboy | then we could load and run the program from Redboot and Apex and see the diff |
| 02:57.16 | beewoolie-away | You should be able to see the registers with APEX |
| 02:57.19 | beewoolie-away | ..and with redboot. |
| 02:57.20 | [g2]-solderboy | I can also find out why the memory isn't configured right on the avila board too |
| 02:57.23 | beewoolie-away | No need for another program. |
| 02:57.36 | beewoolie-away | Which do you want to work on first/ |
| 02:57.37 | beewoolie-away | ? |
| 02:57.49 | [g2]-solderboy | Network, the memory is pretty straight forward |
| 02:57.57 | [g2]-solderboy | and not impeeding anyone but me |
| 02:58.03 | beewoolie-away | OK. |
| 02:58.09 | beewoolie-away | Is APEX still on the board? |
| 02:58.24 | [g2]-solderboy | sure, I keep both in the jffs2 and just dd |
| 02:58.40 | [g2]-solderboy | it's sweet |
| 02:58.45 | beewoolie-away | OK. can you get to the APEX console? |
| 02:59.45 | beewoolie-away | I'll see if I can get my slug booted to redboot... |
| 02:59.51 | [g2]-solderboy | Ok I'm there |
| 03:00.16 | [g2]-solderboy | did I need to enable the low-level debugging in the config ? |
| 03:00.23 | beewoolie-away | No. |
| 03:00.35 | [g2]-solderboy | cool, cause I didn't |
| 03:01.03 | beewoolie-away | the LL debug code seems to be problematic because of a register spill. |
| 03:01.03 | [g2]-solderboy | so you are thinking dump is our friend ? |
| 03:01.08 | beewoolie-away | Yeah. |
| 03:01.38 | beewoolie-away | OK. Dump 0xc8004000 |
| 03:01.51 | beewoolie-away | I'm going upstairs for a minute to get the slug. I'll be back in a few minutes. |
| 03:01.57 | [g2]-solderboy | nod. |
| 03:04.32 | beewoolie-away | I wrote up a little hint on getting into the slug from the network. I was never able to get the upslug program to work because it relies on a version of ping that isn't available on debian. |
| 03:05.43 | beewoolie-away | What do you see at 0xc8004000? |
| 03:06.14 | [g2]-solderboy | apex> dump 0xc8004000 |
| 03:06.14 | [g2]-solderboy | c8004000: 00 00 00 04 00 00 1f 30 00 00 1e 04 00 00 3f ff .......0 ......?? |
| 03:06.14 | [g2]-solderboy | c8004010: 00 00 92 40 00 00 02 49 01 ff 01 ff 00 00 00 00 ...@...I .?.?.... |
| 03:06.14 | [g2]-solderboy | c8004020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ ........ |
| 03:06.14 | [g2]-solderboy | c8004030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ ........ |
| 03:07.40 | beewoolie-away | ...decoding... |
| 03:10.31 | beewoolie-away | Well, there is a difference in the output enables. Give me another moment.... |
| 03:16.16 | beewoolie-away | The differences in the GPIO stuff are unimportant. |
| 03:17.58 | [g2]-solderboy | ok |
| 03:19.40 | beewoolie-away | Grr. Redboot doesn't let me look at some of the system registers. I hope that means that it doesn't set them. |
| 03:20.52 | [g2]-solderboy | I would be nice to have QEMU run redboot in emulation and see all the writes to the config regs in ord |
| 03:20.56 | [g2]-solderboy | order |
| 03:21.20 | beewoolie-away | Hmm. Interesting idea. It would give us everything, no? |
| 03:21.40 | [g2]-solderboy | one would think so |
| 03:22.14 | [g2]-solderboy | the only thing I really miss working from home is the big toys |
| 03:22.34 | beewoolie-away | Do you know how to get QEMU to work? Doesn't it have to have a model of the CPU? |
| 03:22.38 | beewoolie-away | And system? |
| 03:22.51 | [g2]-solderboy | big logic analyzers, deep memory etc... |
| 03:22.59 | [g2]-solderboy | Are system support isn't there yet |
| 03:23.14 | [g2]-solderboy | ARM |
| 03:23.15 | beewoolie-away | Let's look at the MAC. |
| 03:23.27 | [g2]-solderboy | I'm in APEX |
| 03:23.40 | beewoolie-away | I'm getting the addresses... |
| 03:24.01 | [g2]-solderboy | Did you mean the MII ? |
| 03:24.57 | beewoolie | I mean the MAC, first. If we can talk the the PHY, well that's another step. |
| 03:25.05 | beewoolie | dump 0xc8009000+256 |
| 03:25.34 | [g2] | all zeros |
| 03:25.49 | [g2] | apex> dump 0xc8009000+256 |
| 03:25.49 | [g2] | c8009000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ ........ |
| 03:25.50 | beewoolie | OK. Comparing... |
| 03:31.45 | beewoolie | Hmm. Do you want to try a long shot? |
| 03:31.51 | [g2] | sure |
| 03:31.56 | beewoolie | Won't hurt if it fails. |
| 03:32.05 | [g2] | that's good to know :) |
| 03:32.41 | beewoolie | fill 1 0xc80090e3 |
| 03:33.06 | beewoolie | I'm really skeptical, but who knows. |
| 03:33.13 | [g2] | apex> fill 1 0xc80090e3 |
| 03:33.13 | [g2] | Error -9 (parameter error |
| 03:33.33 | beewoolie | Oh. I think it needs to be fill 1 0xc80090e3+1 |
| 03:34.01 | [g2] | you know "up arrow" for cmds would be quite helpful in APEX :) |
| 03:34.02 | beewoolie | Verify it and then see if the kernel boots with the network interface. |
| 03:34.08 | beewoolie | Yeah, It's on the list. |
| 03:34.14 | beewoolie | Redboot doesn't have it either. |
| 03:34.32 | beewoolie | I use a lot of cut and paste. |
| 03:34.53 | [g2] | c80090e0: 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........ ........ |
| 03:34.55 | beewoolie | I really don't think it's anything like this, though, since the avilla works. |
| 03:34.59 | beewoolie | yeah, that's right. |
| 03:35.05 | beewoolie | Try booting. |
| 03:37.26 | [g2] | no joy |
| 03:37.46 | beewoolie | I'm looking through the redboot code to see if I can see anything. |
| 03:38.42 | [g2] | we should probably check the Redboot changes from linksys in their diff file |
| 03:39.00 | beewoolie | Correct me if I'm wrong. The Redboot version for linksys was the same as the stock IXP version. right? |
| 03:39.10 | beewoolie | Is there a single diff file? |
| 03:39.21 | [g2] | I think so |
| 03:39.43 | [g2] | It's been 6-7 months since I looked at it |
| 03:40.23 | beewoolie | Hmm. It looks like there are some patches, though. |
| 03:40.39 | [g2] | are you looking at the diff ? |
| 03:40.49 | beewoolie | U'm trying to find it |
| 03:41.16 | beewoolie | Ah, there is a diff... |
| 03:41.45 | [g2] | Ok are you looking at the sluggo patches ? |
| 03:42.02 | [g2] | I'd imagine the important ones are in there |
| 03:42.10 | [g2] | but in doesn't hurt to go back to the source |
| 03:42.45 | beewoolie | I'm looking at the source archive from linksys. |
| 03:49.49 | *** join/#openjtag jacques (~jacques@jacques.nslu2-linux) |
| 03:52.16 | beewoolie | Is this address familiar to anyone...on the slug? |
| 03:52.18 | beewoolie | 0x5003ffb0 |
| 03:52.41 | [g2] | that's the MAC addr from flash isn't it ? |
| 03:53.19 | [g2] | actually, thats too far |
| 03:53.20 | beewoolie | That's what I thought. |
| 03:53.29 | beewoolie | Oh? |
| 03:53.31 | [g2] | no I take that back |
| 03:53.48 | [g2] | 0x10000 is 64K 0x40000 is 256K |
| 03:54.01 | [g2] | That's the mac |
| 03:54.15 | [g2] | getting pulled from Redboot |
| 03:54.20 | beewoolie | The code calles it the 'ESA'. |
| 03:54.50 | [g2] | yeah I was noticing that too in the diff |
| 03:55.06 | beewoolie | Ah. I found something... |
| 03:55.42 | [g2] | + * This should be called once per mac device. |
| 03:55.42 | [g2] | + * The NPE/MAC shall be in disabled state after init. |
| 03:55.56 | [g2] | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.56 | [g2] | + * Verify NPE downloaded and operational. |
| 03:56.12 | [g2] | IxEthAccStatus ixEthAccInit(void); |
| 03:56.18 | beewoolie | But remember that this isn't done on the avilla with APEX. |
| 03:56.35 | [g2] | nod, but what is it doing ? |
| 03:56.38 | beewoolie | I'm reasonably confident that we shouldn't have to do anything to the NPE . |
| 03:57.15 | [g2] | well maybe we should shoot an email out to the ixp4xx ml |
| 03:57.24 | beewoolie | Hang on... |
| 03:57.26 | [g2] | and ask the question backwards |
| 03:58.24 | beewoolie | The linksys patch is initializing CS4, 5, and 7. I don't think I'm doing that. |
| 03:58.41 | beewoolie | Do we know what these chip selects are connected to? |
| 03:59.31 | beewoolie | We could add these to APEX and see if it makes a difference for you. |
| 04:00.01 | [g2] | dunno |
| 04:00.21 | [g2] | that's just one or two regs per CS right ? |
| 04:00.50 | beewoolie | Hmm. This looks kinda important to me. |
| 04:01.55 | [g2] | what the ixEthAccMacInit ? |
| 04:02.23 | beewoolie | Hmm? |
| 04:03.00 | [g2] | you've got sluggo around ? |
| 04:03.05 | [g2] | the code |
| 04:04.12 | beewoolie | Yeah. |
| 04:05.16 | [g2] | in sluggo/source/redboot-intel-xscale.diff line 21404 |
| 04:05.17 | beewoolie | OK. I'm done with the patch. The only thing I see that make me suspicious is the lack of initialization for cs4,5,7. |
| 04:05.28 | beewoolie | I'mm going to add these to apex. |
| 04:05.32 | beewoolie | ...looking... |
| 04:06.26 | [g2] | I wonder if the state of the MAC can be changed by some pull ups on initialization or something like that |
| 04:06.26 | beewoolie | OK. What about it? |
| 04:06.44 | [g2] | well it looks like the default state is not enabled |
| 04:06.52 | beewoolie | This function is part of the intel liibrary. |
| 04:07.17 | beewoolie | I don't think it should matter. The NPE is supposed to be completely initialized in the kernel. |
| 04:07.26 | beewoolie | At least, it is for every other driver. |
| 04:07.43 | [g2] | well we've got the classic conflict between theory and practice :) |
| 04:07.52 | beewoolie | We don't know that. |
| 04:08.18 | beewoolie | The lack of initialization for part of the memory controller is definitely a problem. |
| 04:08.43 | [g2] | OK, I don't know what is hanging off those CS's if anything |
| 04:09.36 | beewoolie | Hey, guess what. I found a typo in the initialization function for the ixp. It is in part of the flash initialization... |
| 04:09.54 | beewoolie | Right. But Linksys made a point of initializing them. |
| 04:15.17 | beewoolie | Interesting. The address spaces for these chip selects are 512 bytes, |
| 04:15.55 | [g2] | did you put those patches in the next version ? |
| 04:16.32 | [g2] | I mean that would might be a smoking gun |
| 04:16.41 | [g2] | would/might |
| 04:16.57 | [g2] | if those addresses are used to communicate with the NPEs |
| 04:19.35 | beewoolie | I'm confused. What patches? |
| 04:20.07 | [g2] | the version bump on APEX to include the CS4, 5 and 7 |
| 04:22.34 | beewoolie | Right. Would you like to try a binary of 1.2.8 that has the memory initializations? |
| 04:22.47 | [g2] | that's what I was suggesting |
| 04:23.56 | beewoolie | ftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/apex/apex-1.2.8-nslu2.bin |
| 04:24.16 | beewoolie | It also fixes the typo in the flash chip select initialization. |
| 04:24.27 | [g2] | is that a test version ? |
| 04:24.40 | beewoolie | For you, my friend. |
| 04:25.00 | [g2] | well you don't have my config or my patch to boot to /dev/mtdblock4 |
| 04:25.33 | [g2] | unless you used the config I send you the other day that's 98% the same |
| 04:25.34 | beewoolie | Hmm. Can you set the command line in the environment? What other changes have you made? |
| 04:25.43 | beewoolie | Let me see. |
| 04:26.17 | [g2] | for the nslu2 I think just the 5 second autoboot |
| 04:26.44 | [g2] | my tool chain is at a different spot :) |
| 04:26.52 | beewoolie | Your config isn't in the same format as I'm using now. |
| 04:27.13 | beewoolie | You can override the toolchain in te environment...OK. I can just push the code, too. |
| 04:27.17 | [g2] | make oldconfig will still work right ? |
| 04:27.47 | beewoolie | It should, but you need to make sure that you're using the new format of config file. When I moved to the Kconfig, I changed some of the variable names. |
| 04:27.59 | beewoolie | The config you sent is one of the older style ones. |
| 04:28.40 | [g2] | well doesn't make oldconfig either barf or convert it ? |
| 04:29.08 | [g2] | silent failures aren't a good thing |
| 04:29.11 | [g2] | (tm) |
| 04:29.11 | beewoolie | That's true, but there are a couple of important changes. 1) The name of the file has been moved to .config, just like the kernel uses. |
| 04:29.31 | [g2] | yeah, copy it to .config |
| 04:29.33 | beewoolie | And, the new names won't pull from the old ones. |
| 04:30.00 | beewoolie | I've done a lot to make it easier to use. Yes, there is a small bump in compatibility. |
| 04:30.23 | beewoolie | I chose to make the config variable names more consistent. |
| 04:31.06 | [g2] | Ok, how about this. |
| 04:31.12 | [g2] | Can you push 1.2.8 |
| 04:31.21 | beewoolie | ...testing it right now... |
| 04:31.44 | beewoolie | It's there. |
| 04:32.12 | [g2] | Ok. I was going to say, In the morning I'll pull 1.2.8 and make a fresh config to my liking so I'm a good APEX citizen |
| 04:32.32 | [g2] | and patch my default boot cmd |
| 04:32.49 | [g2] | then, I'll test the 1.2.8 APEX and send you mail on the status |
| 04:32.55 | beewoolie | I'll add that feature, too. Maybe tonight. |
| 04:32.58 | beewoolie | OK. |
| 04:33.18 | [g2] | Ok can you send my a simple go no-go email ? |
| 04:33.48 | [g2] | If you add the default cmd line, I'll test it too, you don't need to |
| 04:34.06 | [g2] | unless of course you want to |
| 04:34.42 | [g2] | OH.... which reminds me |
| 04:34.46 | beewoolie | Fair enough. It'll either be really simple or a big pain in the but. |
| 04:34.58 | [g2] | or butt :) |
| 04:35.11 | beewoolie | ;-p |
| 04:35.22 | [g2] | You know what I'd like to add to APEX ? |
| 04:35.35 | [g2] | for the mach-ixp4xx |
| 04:36.01 | beewoolie | I'm certain you'll tell me. |
| 04:36.53 | [g2] | if you hold the reset button down it copies the 3rd block (1-relative) to the 1st block |
| 04:37.39 | beewoolie | can you be more specific? |
| 04:38.00 | beewoolie | Do you mean, rewrite flash? |
| 04:38.16 | [g2] | the user could overwrite the linksys config area (3rd block) or first block of switchbox with the first block of Redboot |
| 04:38.36 | [g2] | holding the reset of fetch the copy of the first block and restore Redboot |
| 04:38.55 | [g2] | actually if we did the switchbox partition, we could do the full Redboot |
| 04:39.19 | [g2] | then ppl could play with APEX without serial or JTAG |
| 04:39.28 | beewoolie | So, if APEX is in the first block, holding the reset button will clobber APEX with the third flash block. |
| 04:39.38 | [g2] | nod. |
| 04:39.45 | beewoolie | Hmm. Let me think about it. |
| 04:39.50 | [g2] | then On the reboot Redboot would be restored |
| 04:39.58 | beewoolie | It would conflict with the other UI I thought about adding. |
| 04:40.02 | [g2] | actually, I like using the switchbox area for the full Redboot |
| 04:40.09 | beewoolie | Perhaps this should be one of the modes that the UI handles. |
| 04:40.24 | [g2] | We'll it's a very simple start |
| 04:40.50 | [g2] | I'd rather have the full restore at the push of a button |
| 04:40.53 | beewoolie | He says simple. |
| 04:41.20 | [g2] | I think it is simple |
| 04:41.32 | [g2] | it's a block or two flash erase and a copy to flash |
| 04:41.35 | beewoolie | Let me give it some though. |
| 04:41.48 | beewoolie | I know that the mechanism is easy. There are lots of details, though. |
| 04:43.01 | [g2] | so now that we got some fair development environs, I'd like to really roll on APEX |
| 04:45.10 | beewoolie | You and me both. I'm told that the dongle will arrive tomorrow. |
| 04:45.23 | [g2] | JTAG dongle ? |
| 04:45.24 | beewoolie | Don't get me wrong about the restore. I like it a lot. |
| 04:45.38 | beewoolie | ka6sox said he sent it earlier this week. |
| 04:46.38 | [g2] | Well I've got two dongles and I may solder up the JTAG on APEX Slug |
| 04:47.03 | [g2] | but I might just skip it until I really need it or I've not nothing better to do than futz with soldering |
| 04:47.55 | beewoolie | Are you putting APEX on the slug without a jtag? |
| 04:48.14 | jacques | brave :-) |
| 04:48.14 | [g2] | I put APEX on my slug today without JTAG and without serial |
| 04:48.30 | [g2] | no, I ran fine on the Avila board that's got JTAG |
| 04:48.38 | [g2] | no, It |
| 04:48.57 | [g2] | the Ethernet even works there for some unknown reasion |
| 04:48.59 | [g2] | reason |
| 04:49.33 | [g2] | So I flipped a coin about which Slug to risk, serial enabled and non-serial enabled |
| 04:49.50 | [g2] | I figured if it died, I'd serial enable it |
| 04:50.11 | [g2] | I could see from the LEDs that it booted fine, but the ethernet was done |
| 04:50.24 | jacques | whoa! APEX on the slug supports the builtin NIC now?? |
| 04:50.55 | [g2] | jacques, APEX doesn't use the NIC |
| 04:51.01 | jacques | ah |
| 04:51.13 | [g2] | and Linux doesn't initialize it fully yet on the Slug |
| 04:51.30 | [g2] | It works fine on the Avila board from Gateworks |
| 04:51.40 | [g2] | But that's got the full boat |
| 04:51.41 | [g2] | serial |
| 04:51.44 | [g2] | jta |
| 04:51.46 | [g2] | jtag |
| 04:51.49 | [g2] | and GigE |
| 04:52.05 | [g2] | on a minipci card that I added |
| 04:52.17 | [g2] | it just missing USB2.0 |
| 04:52.30 | beewoolie | jacques: Do you know what CS 4, 5, and 7 are connected to on the slug? |
| 04:52.47 | jacques | beewoolie, sorry, I don't :-( |
| 04:52.48 | [g2] | It's NPE functionality |
| 04:53.18 | [g2] | at least 4 and 7 iirc from the diff code I was looking at a couple minutes ago |
| 04:53.30 | beewoolie | [g2]: You've got some nerve flashing a bootloader without jtag. |
| 04:53.31 | [g2] | it didn't seem like stuff we'd be using |
| 04:54.11 | [g2] | beewoolie, not really. I checked it all out for a couple days on the avila board |
| 04:54.24 | [g2] | the boards are *nearly* identical |
| 04:54.24 | beewoolie | [g2]: What do you mean? I didn't do any looking for the address ranges for these CS's, so I only know that those CSs are initialized. |
| 04:54.53 | [g2] | you know that diff file ? |
| 04:55.00 | beewoolie | [g2]: There's a hitch with the command line override. |
| 04:55.20 | beewoolie | Looks like there is no way to remove a string config option once it's been set. |
| 04:55.28 | [g2] | doh... I dislilke irc eating / |
| 04:55.35 | [g2] | in the file |
| 04:55.41 | [g2] | "/CS._ |
| 04:56.02 | [g2] | I can give you line numbers if you like |
| 04:56.57 | [g2] | What would be good is that the CS mapping fixes the SLUG, and we check the Avila mapping and it's already mapped |
| 04:57.06 | [g2] | then it kinda be case closed |
| 04:58.01 | beewoolie | I'm not following you. |
| 04:58.30 | [g2] | The Ethernet works on the Avila but not the Slug right ? |
| 04:58.31 | beewoolie | There doesn't appear to be any reference to 0x5400 in the patch. This would be the address of cs4. 0x54000000. |
| 04:59.12 | beewoolie | go on. |
| 04:59.21 | [g2] | I guess you didn't look for the CS references |
| 04:59.42 | [g2] | back to the story |
| 05:00.08 | [g2] | Ok I'm *guessing* that it *might* be as you suggested that the CS isn't mapped |
| 05:00.25 | [g2] | therefore, the init code can't fully init the NPEs |
| 05:00.41 | beewoolie | I still don't know what you mean. |
| 05:00.46 | [g2] | hence the look like they are working, but don't pass traffice |
| 05:00.46 | beewoolie | What is CS mapped? |
| 05:01.09 | beewoolie | I did look for CS references, but I'm not sure what you're talking about. |
| 05:02.41 | [g2] | +#define CS4_BASE_ADDRESS 0x54000000 |
| 05:03.22 | beewoolie | It's commented out in the code. |
| 05:04.05 | beewoolie | It take that back. It depends on EFG120V2. |
| 05:04.22 | beewoolie | Which looks like an LED thingy. |
| 05:04.54 | beewoolie | This may be a huge red herring. |
| 05:05.02 | [g2] | It very well may be |
| 05:05.13 | [g2] | that's why I've been waiting for the code |
| 05:05.41 | [g2] | it's probably nothing, however, there *is* some reason it runs on the Avila board and not the Slug |
| 05:05.50 | beewoolie | Right. |
| 05:05.57 | [g2] | And I'm sure sooner or later we'll find the answer |
| 05:06.08 | [g2] | or ask somebody who can tell us |
| 05:07.09 | beewoolie | If you know someone who can tell us what redboot does on the slug that's important, please do. |
| 05:07.18 | [g2] | So lets leave this herring alone until we check with 1.2.8 |
| 05:07.29 | beewoolie | It already up. |
| 05:07.41 | [g2] | you posted it ? |
| 05:07.51 | beewoolie | I'm looking at the default command line. There's a hitch in the configuration. |
| 05:07.56 | beewoolie | yeah. About 30 minutes ago. |
| 05:09.35 | [g2] | you could have told me :) |
| 05:09.49 | beewoolie | I did. |
| 05:10.16 | beewoolie | Look at 12:31 |
| 05:18.07 | [g2] | AH... |
| 05:18.22 | [g2] | Sorry... It's been a long day and I missed that |
| 05:18.29 | beewoolie | There is a side-effect to this default command line. Doing the override will make the old environment invalid. |
| 05:18.31 | beewoolie | NP. |
| 05:18.58 | beewoolie | There isn't a risk, but it does mean that the environment cannot be set if an old one is present in flash. |
| 05:19.06 | beewoolie | I'll post this as version 1.2.9. |
| 05:19.26 | [g2] | Ok, I'll just grab the highest number tomorrow |
| 05:19.38 | [g2] | I've got to head off from some sleep |
| 05:20.51 | [g2] | beewoolie, THX for all the great help and support! |
| 05:20.58 | [g2] | I'm stoked about APEX |
| 05:21.11 | beewoolie | np. |
| 05:21.21 | beewoolie | I'm running a build test and then I'll post it. |
| 05:21.46 | beewoolie | I appreciate the help you're giving me. |
| 05:21.56 | [g2] | well it's about time |
| 05:22.18 | [g2] | I'm glad I'm JTAG capable on the Avila. |
| 05:22.24 | [g2] | That was the key |
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| 05:22.48 | beewoolie | yeah. I really wish we knew what was the hitch with the NPE initialization. |
| 05:22.49 | [g2] | after running APEX for a while from flash |
| 05:23.15 | [g2] | it's really not much of a roadblock at all for me |
| 05:23.23 | beewoolie | It's also interesting that redboot is using an old version of the NPElibraries. V1.0 |
| 05:23.25 | ka6sox | hey [g2] |
| 05:23.39 | beewoolie | hey, ka6sox |
| 05:23.41 | [g2] | I've got a usb2.0 ethernet link or a usb-to-usb link |
| 05:23.44 | ka6sox | hey beewoolie |
| 05:23.44 | [g2] | hey ka6sox |
| 05:23.53 | ka6sox | did you get my earlier messages? |
| 05:24.07 | [g2] | I probably missed it. :( |
| 05:24.09 | beewoolie | [g2]: I pushed 1.2.9. |
| 05:24.14 | [g2] | cool |
| 05:24.22 | beewoolie | It's in the environment section. |
| 05:24.39 | [g2] | ka6sox, what was it ? |
| 05:24.46 | ka6sox | about the fatslug. |
| 05:25.49 | [g2] | the solder bridges and vegas ? |
| 05:25.53 | ka6sox | yeah |
| 05:25.58 | [g2] | yeah. |
| 05:26.07 | [g2] | have fun in vegas |
| 05:26.13 | ka6sox | its work. |
| 05:26.24 | [g2] | all the better right ? |
| 05:26.31 | [g2] | getting paid to go to vegas |
| 05:26.34 | ka6sox | yeah... |
| 05:26.42 | ka6sox | I'll stay out of the Casino's |
| 05:26.45 | ka6sox | Lost Wages. |
| 05:27.09 | ka6sox | I don't relish driving 12 hrs with a torn rotator cuff. |
| 05:27.26 | [g2] | you should fly out |
| 05:27.36 | ka6sox | I can't get a flight. |
| 05:27.43 | ka6sox | its full already. |
| 05:27.56 | ka6sox | (little airplanes from here to there.)\ |
| 05:28.21 | [g2] | well LAX is only a couple hours away right ? |
| 05:28.39 | ka6sox | yeah...looking up flights from Burbank. |
| 05:28.50 | ka6sox | that is 1.5hrs away |
| 05:28.57 | [g2] | even better :) |
| 05:29.17 | [g2] | So have you guys seen the ixp46x chips ? |
| 05:29.26 | beewoolie | Don't know about them. |
| 05:29.40 | [g2] | speeds up to 667 |
| 05:29.44 | [g2] | Usb2.0 |
| 05:29.48 | [g2] | DDR2 |
| 05:29.52 | beewoolie | Hey. |
| 05:29.55 | [g2] | 32MB to a Gig |
| 05:30.05 | [g2] | and PCI 32 but 33/66 |
| 05:30.27 | jacques | is burbank same as OC ? |
| 05:30.43 | beewoolie | I don't think so. |
| 05:30.50 | beewoolie | OC is John Wayne. |
| 05:31.11 | jacques | ah OK |
| 05:31.19 | jacques | I flew out of OC last year |
| 05:31.52 | ka6sox | funny...John Wayne hated the airport when he was alive. |
| 05:31.52 | [g2] | So after we get the APEX stuff sorted out, then it'll be on to JTAG debugging and OpenJTAG |
| 05:32.27 | jacques | and I bet douglas adams would hate the new hitchhiker's guide movie |
| 05:32.36 | [g2] | 1.2.9 ? APEX sorted out ? or OpenJTAG ? |
| 05:32.39 | beewoolie | Night, folks. |
| 05:32.41 | ka6sox | yeah...so I've heard from my Brit friends. |
| 05:32.44 | ka6sox | nite beewoolie |
| 05:33.01 | [g2] | nite, but what was the celebration ? |
| 05:33.19 | *** part/#openjtag beewoolie (~beewoolie@florence.buici.com) |
| 05:33.48 | [g2] | well solderboy is off to sleep |
| 05:33.56 | ka6sox | nite solderboy |
| 05:34.15 | [g2] | now I've got 2 serial slugs and The avila which has serial and JTAG |
| 05:34.25 | [g2] | and I've got a JTAG connector that reflashes |
| 05:34.27 | ka6sox | :-) |
| 05:34.59 | [g2] | I'll chat with you guys tomorrow |
| 05:35.02 | [g2] | nite |
| 05:35.18 | ka6sox | rats.... |
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| 17:38.19 | beewoolie-away | Hey boyz |
| 17:59.49 | ka6sox-office | mourning |
| 17:59.55 | ka6sox-office | mail come yet? |
| 18:24.08 | beewoolie-away | Not yet. |
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| 19:24.35 | JMunakra1 | hey |
| 19:34.28 | JMunakra1 | have you looked at this? (it's not my project) |
| 19:34.51 | JMunakra1 | http://lap.epfl.ch/dev/arm/jelie/ |
| 19:45.52 | ka6sox-office | this is waaay cool |
| 19:46.01 | ka6sox-office | thanks |
| 19:48.52 | JMunakra1 | heh, I know, it's just what you wanted to do :) |
| 19:49.19 | ka6sox-office | exactly |
| 19:49.22 | JMunakra1 | just found it myself, while looking for a site to host my software |
| 19:49.23 | ka6sox-office | its very cool |
| 19:49.41 | ka6sox-office | we have openjtag.net and you could host it there if you want. |
| 19:49.58 | ka6sox-office | do you need cvs or just a place to be able to get it from? |
| 19:50.50 | ka6sox-office | in otherwords..what do you need for hosting? |
| 19:53.07 | JMunakra1 | cvs |
| 19:53.25 | JMunakra1 | i was also looking at subversion... savannah is offering it |
| 19:53.37 | ka6sox-office | savannah would do a good job. |
| 19:53.50 | ka6sox-office | I know a couple of Devs over there. |
| 19:54.14 | JMunakra1 | the Ez-USB stuff is cool... |
| 19:55.09 | ka6sox-office | we have a couple of Devs (kas11 comes to mind) who are playing with that. |
| 19:55.31 | JMunakra1 | Oh, really |
| 19:55.41 | JMunakra1 | what board are they using? do you have a link? |
| 19:56.05 | ka6sox-office | I think that they are using a board made as a adjunct to the S3 boards we are using |
| 19:56.11 | ka6sox-office | at www.digilent.us |
| 19:56.25 | ka6sox-office | I think its called the usb2 board. |
| 19:57.00 | JMunakra1 | hm, its probably not the same board the jelie folks use? |
| 19:57.54 | ka6sox-office | dunno... |
| 20:00.18 | ka6sox-office | good dinner |
| 20:02.08 | JMunakra1 | well, what the jelie folks don't do is the extest stuff that you were looking at (SPI flash programming) |
| 20:02.58 | ka6sox-office | I saw that. |
| 20:06.37 | JMunakra1 | But then, that is a very board-specific thing. No reusability, if you don't plan for it. |
| 20:07.21 | ka6sox-office | I'm sure since its GPL we can modify it :) |
| 20:07.47 | JMunakra1 | If you did, you'd need a package connection specification file format, so anyone could adjust for their own board where the SPI is connected. |
| 20:08.09 | ka6sox-office | yes I agree..that is the trick. |
| 20:13.17 | ka6sox-office | I have to read their code more and really get into it. |
| 20:19.31 | JMunakra1 | hm, jelie won't configure here. Says it can't find the libusb, although I installed it. |