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| 07:19.15 | ka6sox-away | what..not idling? |
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| 07:24.15 | jacques | ka6sox-away, looking for me? |
| 07:26.27 | ka6sox-away | hi there. |
| 07:26.48 | ka6sox-away | I have a question about Shuttles... |
| 07:27.42 | ka6sox-away | I'm looking into a replacement for my aging PIII-800 server and want to know what you think about using a Shuttle as a server with Raid1... |
| 07:29.17 | jacques | it's hard to generalize about them since they are all different |
| 07:29.51 | jacques | some should work fine for that |
| 07:33.15 | ka6sox-away | I'm thinking about a Nforce3/939 board. |
| 07:33.49 | jacques | don't wanna wait for the nforce4 huh? |
| 07:34.05 | jacques | heck, a few days ago you were saying you're going to wait for the dual core chips to come out |
| 07:34.37 | ka6sox-away | I'm afraid that if something goes I'll have to panic buy... |
| 07:35.04 | jacques | a couple friends of mine build the nforce3 shuttles as game machines |
| 07:35.11 | jacques | AFAIK they are really happy with them |
| 07:35.25 | jacques | dunno if they are doing raid on them tho |
| 07:36.56 | ka6sox-away | okay |
| 07:37.38 | jacques | hmmm |
| 07:37.52 | jacques | tho I thought the nforce3 shuttle was a socket7xx board |
| 07:37.54 | kas11 | everything I have heard about using the onboard h/w raid controllers is bad |
| 07:38.05 | ka6sox-away | :( |
| 07:39.00 | jacques | ok |
| 07:39.03 | jacques | they have both |
| 07:39.13 | jacques | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.40 | jacques | SN85G4 is socket754 |
| 07:40.17 | ka6sox-away | the 95G5 is the one I was thinking about. |
| 07:42.16 | jacques | has sata raid according to the shuttle page |
| 07:47.17 | kas11 | http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/print/sempron-2600.html for some info on later 754/939 processors |
| 07:54.22 | ka6sox-away | reading\ |
| 07:54.58 | ka6sox-away | I really want a 90nm version...a lot lower power consumption. |
| 07:55.16 | ka6sox-away | and in C&Q it ought to do fairly well... |
| 07:55.35 | jacques | the article seems to be mostly about the semprons |
| 07:55.40 | jacques | not 64bit |
| 07:56.07 | ka6sox-away | yeah...and it doesn't support C&Q |
| 07:56.27 | jacques | what's that? |
| 07:56.33 | ka6sox-away | cool and Quiet. |
| 07:56.38 | jacques | ah |
| 07:56.45 | ka6sox-away | a underclocked mode for power/heat savings. |
| 07:56.49 | kas11 | yeah...but it is interesting to see how little larger L2 cache is doing for most things |
| 07:56.57 | ka6sox-away | I noticed that. |
| 07:58.25 | kas11 | one of the places I was looking the other day pointed out how much difference various DIMM modules made too...even from the same manufacturer |
| 07:58.49 | ka6sox-away | oh? how so? (always the curious one) |
| 07:59.29 | kas11 | mostly that you needed to look closely at the latency specs |
| 07:59.41 | kas11 | let me see if I can find that article |
| 08:00.06 | ka6sox-away | C>R? |
| 08:01.10 | kas11 | http://www.digital-daily.com/cpu/amd-athlon64-winchester |
| 08:02.56 | jacques | hmm looks like wasn't originally written in english |
| 08:04.20 | ka6sox-away | Russian I think. |
| 08:17.13 | kas11 | for cooling, CNPS7000 or 7700 if your mb/case is big enough are essentially silent...7700cu has 120 mm fan that runs 2000 rpm max... 2 lbs of copper |
| 08:17.13 | ka6sox-away | well...it is interesting about the memory settings. |
| 08:17.40 | ka6sox-away | I wonder if I could get a Flower to work on that CPU. |
| 08:17.51 | ka6sox-away | 2.5# of copper. |
| 08:18.28 | kas11 | the CNPSs are round like an inverted bell |
| 08:18.56 | ka6sox-away | url? |
| 08:20.19 | kas11 | I have a 3100 on my xp2500 that thinks it is a 3200...idles at 31c...never see it over 40...and the temp sensor is thermally coupled to the bottom on the cpu so the readings are about as accurate as you can get out of that type system |
| 08:21.37 | ka6sox-away | none of my macs have a CPU fan..except the heat pipe on the iBook. |
| 08:21.37 | kas11 | http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=146&code=005009 |
| 08:21.46 | ka6sox-away | thanks |
| 08:21.59 | kas11 | there is a all cu one somewhere there too |
| 08:22.58 | kas11 | http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=145&code=005 |
| 08:23.43 | kas11 | I have had SLKs too....Zalman beats them hands down |
| 08:24.36 | kas11 | this is FL...so high ambients go with the territory |
| 08:24.51 | ka6sox-away | Zalman has a "Flower" that is pretty "cool" |
| 08:25.07 | kas11 | CNPS is easy to clean too |
| 08:26.19 | kas11 | these are like the flower but fins are bent sideways rather than in a fan....but the design of all of them is really kewl |
| 08:26.39 | ka6sox-away | ya |
| 08:26.48 | ka6sox-away | jacques: what do you think? |
| 08:27.00 | jacques | about what? |
| 08:27.14 | kas11 | but you can't mount the CNPS on all mbs...need the 4 holes and nothing in the keep away zone |
| 08:27.15 | ka6sox-away | cooling. |
| 08:27.37 | ka6sox-away | I really need to read a good article on C&Q |
| 08:27.41 | jacques | if you;re thinking about a shuttle it's moot |
| 08:27.49 | ka6sox-away | to see if I'm OTL. |
| 08:27.53 | ka6sox-away | true. |
| 08:28.12 | ka6sox-away | I'm assuming that it has the same cooling arraingement as the case we have for nudibranch. |
| 08:28.16 | kas11 | yeah...shuttle means use their cooler |
| 08:30.53 | ka6sox-away | in the FN85 there are 2 versions..one supports C&Q and the other doesn't |
| 08:32.29 | ka6sox-away | okay so its all about the MOBO and Bios. |
| 08:32.30 | kas11 | I will say I can't hear cpu fans here cuz the 7200 rpm drives make a lot more noise |
| 08:38.46 | ka6sox-away | Jacques: what socket is on the 3200+ we got for nudibranch? |
| 08:41.32 | kas11 | the original A64 3200+ is a 754 |
| 08:41.48 | ka6sox-away | this is an Athlon XP |
| 08:42.37 | kas11 | ahhhh...socket A was 462, I think |
| 08:44.50 | kas11 | g'nite, y'all |
| 08:46.43 | ka6sox-away | nite |
| 09:34.05 | ka6sox-away | jacques, http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=64&code=020 |
| 09:34.08 | ka6sox-away | totally silent |
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