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| 00:26.44 | beewoolie | [g2]-food: It isn't building. |
| 00:26.52 | beewoolie | ERROR: Nothing provides unslung-able-image |
| 00:27.03 | beewoolie | ERROR: dependency unslung-able-image (for unslung-image) not satisfied |
| 00:27.03 | beewoolie | NOTE: no buildable providers for unslung-image |
| 00:27.29 | beewoolie | 2104.100u 343.872s 44:40.36 91.3% 0+0k 0+0io 1345pf+0w |
| 00:28.26 | [g2]-food | that's because you distro is probably openslug |
| 00:28.38 | [g2]-food | you should be bitbake openslug-image |
| 00:29.30 | [g2]-food | beewoolie, you are trying to build openslug right ? |
| 00:29.44 | beewoolie | I think I got that wrong. Let me try again. |
| 00:30.49 | [g2]-food | :) |
| 00:44.39 | [g2]-food | is the NEC supposed to be level or edge triggered ? |
| 00:44.46 | beewoolie | What is the fastest, reasonably priced machine we can buy these days? |
| 00:44.58 | [g2]-food | This is an interesting post http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2004-December/025906.html |
| 00:45.18 | [g2]-food | beewoolie, can you be more specific with that question ? |
| 00:45.22 | beewoolie | Good question. If it were wrong, I think it would have been *way* broken. |
| 00:46.16 | beewoolie | I cannot know how it works without the datasheet. |
| 00:46.33 | [g2]-food | I think I've got a copy I'll check |
| 00:46.58 | [g2]-food | what kind of machine are you talking about a build machine ? |
| 00:47.08 | beewoolie | You read my mind. |
| 00:48.19 | [g2]-food | You've got less than a 1GB memory right ? |
| 00:48.20 | [g2]-food | :) |
| 00:50.26 | kas11 | did anyone come up with a manual for the NEC? when I looked they wanted people to jump thru hoops |
| 00:50.42 | [g2]-food | I'll check if I've got one |
| 00:50.53 | [g2]-food | I think I dl'ed it yesterday or the day before |
| 00:51.52 | beewoolie | Shoot me a copy dude. |
| 00:52.05 | [g2]-food | I've gotta find it |
| 00:52.15 | [g2]-food | I think I pulled it straight from the web site |
| 00:52.27 | beewoolie | It didn't let me do so. |
| 00:52.49 | kas11 | not being in hoop-jumping mood, I said [insert rude words here] very much and did something else |
| 00:54.17 | [g2]-food | what's wrong with this link ? http://www.necel.com/usb/ja/dir1/S16265EJ4V0DS00.pdf |
| 00:54.43 | [g2]-food | it doesn't have a lock on it :) |
| 00:55.38 | kas11 | did y'all try changing the latency setting on the ehci-hcd driver?... |
| 00:55.46 | beewoolie | While that is, literally, the datasheet. It doesn't explain the program interface. |
| 00:55.57 | kas11 | I was looking for the whole devel manual |
| 00:55.59 | [g2]-food | a while ago |
| 00:56.40 | beewoolie | build of openslug took about an hour. |
| 00:56.43 | kas11 | agrees with beewoolie...and still objects to hoops |
| 01:00.38 | beewoolie | So, now that I have built openslug. Can I use the linksys fw to install it? |
| 01:09.13 | beewoolie | [g2]-food: Are you still eating? |
| 01:09.26 | [g2]-food | no |
| 01:09.40 | beewoolie | I've got the redboot prompt. |
| 01:09.47 | beewoolie | How do I put openslug on this thing? |
| 01:11.11 | [g2] | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/RecoverFromABadFlash |
| 01:12.13 | beewoolie | I understand the procedure. What I don't know is which file I am to use and whether or not I can pull it from the web interface. |
| 01:12.27 | [g2] | Do you have the linksys stock firmware on there ? |
| 01:12.38 | beewoolie | Yep. |
| 01:12.46 | [g2] | then just flash upgrade |
| 01:12.52 | [g2] | admin -> upgrade |
| 01:13.09 | beewoolie | The .img file? |
| 01:13.25 | [g2] | browse and select the tmp/deploy/images/...flash... |
| 01:13.42 | beewoolie | -rw-rw-r-- 1 elf elf 8388608 2005-03-07 16:53 openslug-nslu2-20050307233923.flashdisk.img |
| 01:14.16 | [g2] | that's the lastest ? then yes |
| 01:14.44 | beewoolie | This image is the size of the whole of flash. Are you sure? |
| 01:20.43 | beewoolie | It seems to boot faster. |
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| 01:22.15 | dyoung-web | I have 148 pages of nec users manual... |
| 01:22.21 | beewoolie | Hmm. OK. It's booted. |
| 01:22.30 | beewoolie | Dropbear seems to be running. |
| 01:23.28 | beewoolie | Should we be talking about this on the nslu2-linux channel? |
| 01:23.38 | dyoung-web | I dunno? |
| 01:23.53 | dyoung-web | Should I upload S16336E someplace for those interested? |
| 01:24.06 | beewoolie | Can it go on the wiki? |
| 01:24.23 | kas11 | I jumped thru hoopw |
| 01:24.55 | kas11 | s...waiting for NEC official ok |
| 01:26.14 | beewoolie | [g2]: no vfat filesystem in openslug? |
| 01:26.24 | [g2] | probably not |
| 01:26.39 | [g2] | vfat doesn't support symlinks |
| 01:27.04 | [g2] | fisk and mke2fs are there :) |
| 01:27.07 | beewoolie | And your point is? |
| 01:27.18 | beewoolie | Folks are going to have vfat devices. |
| 01:27.20 | [g2] | it's useless for system partitions |
| 01:27.31 | beewoolie | Not for storage, it is isn't. |
| 01:27.40 | [g2] | it's trivial to add |
| 01:27.54 | beewoolie | #modprobe vfat... |
| 01:28.08 | beewoolie | Not as trivial as you think. |
| 01:28.19 | [g2] | we've be working on the boot from ext3 on hd/flash stick and the ehci issue along with a couple dozen others |
| 01:30.18 | [g2] | is on the list http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/OpenSlug/BetaRelease |
| 01:30.27 | [g2] | it's |
| 01:31.22 | [g2] | beewoolie, if we were going to talk about this in another channel #openslug would be the one |
| 01:32.08 | [g2] | kas11, YOUR VERY WELCOME THERE TOO ! |
| 02:14.16 | [g2] | ~seen desaxena_away |
| 02:14.17 | purl | [g2]: i haven't seen 'desaxena_away' |
| 02:14.17 | qbot | [g2]: i haven't seen 'desaxena_away' |
| 02:14.31 | [g2] | ~seen deaxena_away |
| 02:14.33 | purl | [g2]: i haven't seen 'deaxena_away' |
| 02:14.33 | qbot | [g2]: i haven't seen 'deaxena_away' |
| 02:14.37 | [g2] | ~seen dsaxena_away |
| 02:14.37 | purl | dsaxena_away is currently on #nslu2-linux #elinux |
| 02:14.38 | qbot | [g2]: i haven't seen 'dsaxena_away' |
| 02:57.33 | beewoolie | dyoung-web: I seem to have wedged my slug. It isn't bricked because I can get to redboot. It won't boot tho. |
| 02:57.41 | beewoolie | == Executing boot script in 2.000 seconds - enter ^C to abort |
| 02:57.42 | beewoolie | RedBoot> boot;exec 0x01d00000 |
| 02:57.42 | beewoolie | not have eRcOmM |
| 02:57.42 | beewoolie | Entry to download |
| 02:57.47 | beewoolie | What's the deal? |
| 02:58.01 | beewoolie | It isn't copying the kernel? |
| 02:59.53 | beewoolie | There are zeroes at 0x50060000 which is not what I'd expect |
| 03:02.00 | dyoung-web | Have not ercom means redboot cant find the sercomm trailer.... |
| 03:04.32 | beewoolie | dyoung-web: It looks like the procedure on the web site didn't work. |
| 03:05.02 | beewoolie | My guess is that the flash wasn't being erased before being written. |
| 03:05.09 | dyoung-web | the easiest way for you to fix it at this point is to "upslug" it. |
| 03:05.10 | beewoolie | When I erased it first, it seems to be OK. |
| 03:05.45 | dyoung-web | Control-C it, "upgrade" it, then "upslug" it. |
| 03:06.13 | dyoung-web | Or yeah you can tftp it and fis write it too. |
| 03:06.32 | beewoolie | Does the wiki allow for <tt> or <verbatim> tags? |
| 03:07.01 | beewoolie | The tftp procedure didn't work for me. I had to erase first. |
| 03:07.09 | beewoolie | It came back this time. |
| 03:07.48 | beewoolie | I think I'm going to go back to APEX until it is an acceptable replacement for redboot. The system as is gives me heebeejeebees. |
| 03:28.55 | dyoung-web | I agree. |
| 03:30.57 | dyoung-web | When you have time we should poke and push into this NPE initialization thing; and be done with it once and for all. Then I'll move to apex permanently. |
| 03:33.57 | beewoolie | That's what I'm going to do next. |
| 03:41.10 | beewoolie | dyoung-web: Did you ever get the library to build? |
| 03:41.11 | dyoung-web | I'm more than ready to help you do it. |
| 03:41.29 | beewoolie | More? than ready. |
| 03:41.30 | dyoung-web | you know, since I have no fear of breaking it. |
| 03:41.47 | dyoung-web | Just lacking in time. |
| 03:41.47 | beewoolie | give me a minute. Let me see how far it builds right now. |
| 03:41.50 | beewoolie | I was pretty close. |
| 03:42.01 | dyoung-web | I got close, but I got distracted with a yard. |
| 03:42.48 | beewoolie | It's furlongs and fortnights that get me most of the time. |
| 03:43.30 | dyoung-web | heh. |
| 03:44.11 | dyoung-web | The weather has been mostly wet since december, the last 2 weekends were the only nice weekends for a while; my grass got totally out of control. |
| 03:49.39 | dyoung-web | Hmm. |
| 03:49.56 | dyoung-web | I gotta get outta here or my a$$ will be grass. |
| 03:50.11 | beewoolie | OK. I'm just looking at the library now. |
| 03:50.28 | dyoung-web | "Keeping the woman waiting is like asking for death". |
| 03:57.50 | beewoolie | dyoung-web: I know what the problem is. The library assumes that some addresses are statically mapped which are *not* statically mapped anymore. |
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| 05:40.38 | beewoolie | dyoung-web: I've posted my progress with the access library. It's pretty sloppy work, IMHO. You can get my patches and scripts from my wiki. |
| 05:41.00 | beewoolie | http://wiki.buici.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/IXPAccessLibrary |
| 05:41.11 | beewoolie | I don't have complete instructions, yet. |
| 05:41.36 | beewoolie | If you want to make a go of it, let me know how far you get. |
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| 14:08.55 | VoodooZ_work | same crowd! :) |
| 14:09.44 | VoodooZ_work | Is the status of APEX available on a wiki or page somewhere? |
| 14:10.07 | [g2] | getting |
| 14:12.01 | [g2] | http://wiki.buici.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/ApexBootloader |
| 14:19.03 | VoodooZ_work | thanks. |
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| 14:25.48 | VoodooZ_work | nice page. |
| 14:26.36 | VoodooZ_work | Did anybody actually flashed their slug with it yet? |
| 14:27.12 | prpplague | with apex? |
| 14:27.25 | VoodooZ_work | I don't care much for all the fluff like splash screen, netconsole, USB this and that. As long as it gives me serial access to command it's good. |
| 14:27.27 | VoodooZ_work | yep. |
| 14:28.05 | VoodooZ_work | It's a bootloader after all. Not a tool for the average user. |
| 14:28.09 | prpplague | VoodooZ_work: yea several ppl are testing it |
| 14:28.15 | VoodooZ_work | good. |
| 14:28.24 | prpplague | VoodooZ_work: but thats the good thing about apex, you can choose the options you want |
| 14:28.30 | VoodooZ_work | I'd like to try it out but I don't have jtag so I'm a bit paranoid. |
| 14:28.35 | prpplague | VoodooZ_work: just don't compile in the ones you don't want |
| 14:28.41 | VoodooZ_work | yes! that's a good thing. |
| 14:29.06 | VoodooZ_work | Who's using it to boot openslug right now? |
| 14:29.46 | prpplague | i could not say with any specifity, seems like it is ka6sox and [g2] |
| 14:30.06 | VoodooZ_work | ok. |
| 14:30.42 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, you can run it from RAM to get familiar with it |
| 14:30.52 | [g2] | I wouldn't flash it just yet |
| 14:30.54 | VoodooZ_work | If It boots openslug's jffs2 correctly with basic serial I'd try it. |
| 14:31.04 | VoodooZ_work | ok. |
| 14:31.21 | [g2] | there are two issues (1 of which you probably don't care about) |
| 14:31.33 | VoodooZ_work | [g2]: would you say it's early alpha or close to beta? |
| 14:31.59 | [g2] | 1/ The NPE's aren't initialized so the ixp doesn't come up --- This is the one you probably don't care about |
| 14:32.19 | [g2] | closer to later alpha |
| 14:32.32 | [g2] | 2/ From RAM is was getting a checksum issue. |
| 14:32.48 | VoodooZ_work | looks good then. |
| 14:33.04 | [g2] | I think dyoung/bewoolie is the only one that has it flashed |
| 14:33.22 | VoodooZ_work | I guess I'll have to start monitoring this space more to keep up with the progress. |
| 14:33.29 | [g2] | I shoul be getting FatSlug latter this week and then I'll be able to flash and do more testing |
| 14:33.38 | VoodooZ_work | good! |
| 14:34.07 | [g2] | and bewoolie has a pretty good idea about the NPE isue |
| 14:34.09 | [g2] | issue |
| 14:34.12 | VoodooZ_work | keep up the great work [g2]. you rock! |
| 14:34.27 | VoodooZ_work | ~praise bewoolie |
| 14:34.31 | purl | All hail bewoolie! |
| 14:34.31 | qbot | All Hail bewoolie! |
| 14:34.31 | [g2] | thx, I'm just part of a GREAT community |
| 14:35.31 | VoodooZ_work | Well, if the community is like one of those multi-seat bicycle, you're definitely at the steering end! |
| 14:36.12 | VoodooZ_work | and rwhitby too of course, you guys just share the steering every 8/12 hours! :) |
| 14:36.32 | [g2] | oh there are lots of key contributors |
| 14:36.47 | [g2] | it's really great |
| 14:37.48 | VoodooZ_work | yep. I started here with the goal of equipping my robot with a great CPU and ended up delaying the robot to keep having fun with the board instead! |
| 14:39.51 | [g2] | you'll really be ready for next years competition ! |
| 14:41.09 | VoodooZ_work | Yeah. I hope so but unfortunately a great CPU doesn't make for a great robot. I should be working on my AI instead but summer is coming so I'll be getting the motorcycle fever soon. :) |
| 14:42.06 | VoodooZ_work | I tried my first machine vision test yesterday on my slug but it looked kind of slow. I'll have to investigate more. |
| 15:00.42 | [g2] | there are only so many things we can help you with :) |
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| 15:26.21 | VoodooZ_work | hey kas11! |
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