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| 07:13.34 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 09:14.41 | yang | hey ao2 come va ? |
| 09:14.56 | ao2 | hi |
| 09:15.15 | ao2 | I am fine, yang, many thanks. How are you doing? |
| 09:15.52 | yang | I am fine aswell |
| 09:16.09 | yang | Has Italia recovered from the Earthquakes ? |
| 09:17.16 | yang | mabye some of you would like to expand the text in https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/OpenEZX ? |
| 09:21.55 | yang | pings sabrod |
| 09:22.00 | ao2 | yang, about earthquake, weather is still causing some little problems, but people should be safe now. The really big problem is the reconstruction, the long hand of dark economies (read also Mafias :) ) could take big advantages from the disaster... |
| 09:22.53 | yang | ao2: In Slovenia they still haven't recovered all building from the earthquake in 1999 |
| 09:23.37 | yang | ao2: the common practice is, that you need your apartment insured for eartquake (comes about 50 EUR on top of the apartment insurance per year) |
| 09:23.43 | yang | in Slovenia |
| 09:25.03 | ao2 | I don't know how insurances on houses work here |
| 09:26.37 | ao2 | yang, I am giving a look at the wikipedia article, I think it is fine so brief, just make the word OpenEZX an hyperlink if you can |
| 09:27.01 | sabrod | Pong |
| 09:27.02 | yang | As i can remember there was a state funding of only about 5000 EUR per house for the earthquake disaster, and you know this is not enough to restore the collapsed houses |
| 09:27.20 | sabrod | Hi Ao2, yang. |
| 09:27.47 | yang | ao2: hyperlink, what exactly do you mean ? |
| 09:28.12 | ao2 | yang, make it point to www.openezx.org |
| 09:28.28 | yang | it does, under reference no. 1 |
| 09:29.02 | yang | ao2: you cannot make hyperlinks inside the article, only on the bottom (External links) |
| 09:29.43 | ao2 | ah, wikipedia only allows internal links inside the article, I didn't know that |
| 09:29.48 | yang | yes |
| 09:30.22 | yang | maybe sabrod has some ideas, how to expand the article |
| 09:30.43 | tmzt | what is the https link for? |
| 09:31.07 | yang | tmzt: eh, just my https connection, I use it to securelly log into wikipedia |
| 09:31.19 | tmzt | I see |
| 09:31.23 | sabrod | Heh, it's already good... ( I don't think this page needs a buggy script to be pasted on ;-) ) |
| 09:31.43 | tmzt | haven't seen that before |
| 09:32.15 | yang | its the same what I am trying to suggest to Hopscotch to enable secure connection for OpenEZX website |
| 09:33.13 | yang | it just needs a SSL cert |
| 09:34.04 | sabrod | website is hosted somewhere else, but speaking of the wiki, maybe the mediawiki... yes could be updated. |
| 09:34.17 | yang | sabrod: not its an apache-related thing |
| 09:34.52 | yang | sabrod: I ment for wiki logins yes, not for the main site |
| 09:37.17 | sabrod | Ah... well it's a good idea. I was speaking of the update for fancy content, that are not allowed yet. Probably we can deal with that. And adding the SSL cert is more important and also easier I suppose. :) |
| 09:38.25 | yang | sabrod: do you have shell access to the wiki server ? |
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| 09:39.06 | sabrod | No... I don't... |
| 09:39.36 | yang | sabrod: I think it's Hopscotch who has that, but I never manage to get him to respond |
| 09:40.39 | sabrod | Note that I think I can manage to find how to make the thumbnails to link to a different page than the upload image one, without it, but I just didn't found yet. |
| 09:41.04 | yang | sabrod: yes its possible |
| 09:41.14 | yang | sabrod: consider asking on #mediawiki |
| 09:41.43 | sabrod | Yes... |
| 09:42.23 | sabrod | Lets do that. |
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| 10:04.48 | tmzt | WyrM: reading list, should pcap-keys work on motoq or will it need changes? |
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| 11:46.49 | sabrod | k. basicly image linking on a mediawiki needs a plugin or 1.14, so there is a server task to do. |
| 11:47.32 | sabrod | /nick sabrod|away |
| 11:47.58 | sabrod|away | :) |
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| 14:23.34 | WyrM | tmzt (pcap-keys) should work. |
| 14:23.39 | WyrM | hi all :) |
| 14:30.28 | gmzhuo | hi WyrM |
| 14:30.37 | mickeyl | morning wyrm! |
| 14:30.50 | WyrM | hi gmzhuo, mickeyl. :) |
| 14:30.51 | gmzhuo | isp1583 dma mode works now,but it's buggy |
| 14:31.05 | mickeyl | remind me... what is that chip for again? |
| 14:31.17 | WyrM | gmzhuo: what was wrong? And how its buggy? |
| 14:31.32 | gmzhuo | usb2.0 on e6,e2 |
| 14:32.09 | gmzhuo | WyrM:wrong,the dma src and dst is reverted by me :) |
| 14:32.44 | mickeyl | oh, they got usb2? |
| 14:32.46 | gmzhuo | buggy is not stable when use dma,maybe is resource conflicts |
| 14:32.46 | mickeyl | amazing |
| 14:33.16 | gmzhuo | yes,usb2 device |
| 14:34.03 | gmzhuo | how about fso for openezx now? |
| 14:36.48 | mickeyl | looks pretty good in general, device and modem working fine for phone calls, gprs is broken (pending kernel support?), suspend/resume is being worked on (kernel) |
| 14:40.03 | mickeyl | what's the last word on gprs from the kernel experts? |
| 14:40.43 | gDD | FSO image looks so NICE, nice future:) http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Image:Fso-architecture.png |
| 14:42.55 | mickeyl | :) |
| 14:43.04 | mickeyl | yes, the future could be bright |
| 14:43.16 | mickeyl | just need to fight for some more truly open hardware |
| 14:43.28 | mickeyl | the software part of the stack will come along nicely |
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| 14:45.40 | ao2 | mickeyl, as soon as I find some time I could work on gps again, I'd got for gpsd, does it work ok with fso? I read that gpsd has dbus hooks now. |
| 14:46.14 | ao2 | s/got/go/ |
| 14:46.50 | mickeyl | ah right |
| 14:46.54 | mickeyl | ok, so the deal is that: |
| 14:47.08 | mickeyl | you would need to add a GpsDevice class in FSO |
| 14:47.22 | mickeyl | tailored for EZX |
| 14:47.58 | mickeyl | that one gathers the data out of the device and feeds it to FSO. Then you use the usual GPS dbus API to access it (org.freedesktop.gypsy) |
| 14:48.17 | mickeyl | that way we can use things like tangogps or navit on ezx |
| 14:48.25 | mickeyl | without needing special device support other than in FSO |
| 14:48.47 | ao2 | ok, adding those lines to my notes |
| 14:50.47 | mickeyl | when you're there, we can talk about how to integrate with python. we can do it as a small C module which we glue into python somehow, so you don't have to reimplement what you have |
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| 19:42.43 | stefan | hi |
| 19:43.03 | stefan | git clo |
| 19:43.04 | stefan | penezx.git |
| 19:43.11 | stefan | remote: fatal: Out of memory, malloc failed |
| 19:43.17 | stefan | hmmm |
| 19:43.20 | stefan | :( |
| 19:44.09 | ao2 | stefan, try cloning linus' tree and then using it as reference whan cloning openezx one |
| 19:45.30 | ao2 | if this issue is due to the huge topgit history, to fix that issue I guess we should export topgit patches, create a fresh repository and recreate the topgit structure on it. |
| 19:48.29 | sabrod | I just failed to broke my computer! |
| 19:49.27 | sabrod | stefan: you should git clone --reference git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6-stable.git git://git.openezx.org/openezx.git |
| 19:50.26 | stefan | im using this http://wiki.openezx.org/Kernel_hacking_-_linux-2.6 |
| 19:50.31 | stefan | is it too old ? |
| 19:50.46 | sabrod | This could work and use less memory on your computer. Topgit is a little memory ogre. |
| 19:50.57 | ao2 | stefan, it is how it should be :) sorry |
| 19:51.22 | stefan | no problem but im not all used to using git and topgit etc |
| 19:51.37 | sabrod | Well, this work sometimes here with 2Gig ram, when I just booted ;) |
| 19:52.00 | ao2 | yang, do you have any experience with xen? |
| 19:52.01 | stefan | hmm it seems to work now |
| 19:52.09 | sabrod | In fact I do: |
| 19:52.11 | sabrod | git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6-stable.git |
| 19:52.13 | stefan | i just tried the frst thing again |
| 19:52.16 | sabrod | then |
| 19:52.17 | sabrod | git remote add openezx git://git.openezx.org/openezx.git && git pull openezx |
| 19:53.13 | ao2 | eh sabrod this way you don't have external reference which you can losse if you delete linus tree, I think is is saner than how I do :) |
| 19:53.34 | sabrod | Well, yes, here it's been a long time I couldn't... btw, I never used the --reference command, I use the second method... |
| 19:53.56 | sabrod | Oh, that cool! :) |
| 19:55.01 | stefan | how does topgit come into play with your setup , sabrod |
| 19:55.12 | stefan | i dont understand the reason for topgit anyway |
| 19:55.42 | ao2 | stefan, we use topgit to seaprate patches by topic so it easier to send them for upstream inclusion |
| 19:55.54 | ao2 | if you just want to _use_ the code you don't need topgit |
| 19:56.02 | stefan | ok |
| 19:56.10 | ao2 | if you want to edit it and send us the changes, they you could |
| 19:56.21 | ao2 | s/they.then/ |
| 19:56.24 | ao2 | s/they/then/ |
| 19:56.46 | ao2 | eh, thanks purl, I busted you! |
| 19:56.56 | stefan | ao2 the point is i have some time now and want to sttart again and this time hopefully get the camera to work |
| 19:58.24 | ao2 | stefan, if topgit make you feel unconfortable then don't use it and send us a big patch when you think you've something it is worth sharing |
| 19:59.11 | ao2 | just be sure to checkout ezx/current when you hack, because otherwise you don't get all openezx changes |
| 19:59.58 | sabrod | Heh, it's also because I only _use_ the code that my way of doing the checkout is saner... ;) |
| 20:01.18 | ao2 | sabrod, it should be equivalent, I can still call topgit after your steps |
| 20:01.35 | ao2 | well, without should, it is equivalent |
| 20:02.46 | stefan | error: pathspec 'ezx/current' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 20:03.02 | sabrod | Oh, yes, I know, but I will not risk me at this... |
| 20:03.52 | ao2 | stefan, is it listed with "git branch" ? |
| 20:03.52 | stefan | im on branch master now |
| 20:04.03 | stefan | only master |
| 20:04.15 | ao2 | then you still don't have openezx objects |
| 20:04.40 | stefan | ok i used tg remote --populate thing now |
| 20:04.57 | sabrod | btw, ao2, did you asked the topgit developers, if it wasn't a problem on topgit? |
| 20:05.07 | ao2 | sabrod, not yet |
| 20:05.13 | stefan | ok now i am on ezx current |
| 20:05.21 | sabrod | It seems a lot, I remember, wyrm had 7Gig ram used, or so, last month... :) |
| 20:05.25 | stefan | do i need to update anything again ? |
| 20:05.33 | ao2 | stefan, then I forgot one step, sorry :) |
| 20:05.38 | stefan | np |
| 20:05.48 | WyrM | stefan: 3.8gb :) |
| 20:06.17 | stefan | i want to use a binary toolchain which one should i try |
| 20:06.21 | ao2 | stefan, no need to update after populate |
| 20:06.57 | ao2 | stefan, try the one suggested on the wiki first |
| 20:07.15 | stefan | The recommended toolchain for building the openezx kernel and related binaries (see Kernel_hacking_-_linux-2.6) is the OpenEmbedded toolchain. |
| 20:07.20 | stefan | ? |
| 20:07.44 | stefan | ok thanks hope to get it compiled |
| 20:07.53 | stefan | last time it was arne who compiled it |
| 20:08.08 | stefan | but we never updated the sources |
| 20:08.10 | ao2 | I see, but there should be a link to a prebuilt one AFAIR |
| 20:08.16 | stefan | and now our dev computer is a mess ;) |
| 20:08.31 | stefan | yes i have the prebuild one already available |
| 20:08.34 | stefan | ill try it |
| 20:08.55 | ao2 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/toolchain/ |
| 20:09.02 | ao2 | ok |
| 20:09.14 | stefan | here it says i should never talk to wyrm about openembedded ;) |
| 20:09.25 | stefan | also it uses a different .config |
| 20:09.41 | stefan | make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- zImage |
| 20:09.50 | stefan | can i do this ? |
| 20:09.55 | WyrM | stefan: info is outdated. :) |
| 20:10.11 | stefan | sorry i was getting confused ;) |
| 20:10.40 | WyrM | OE is no longer patching our kernel and making me crazy with user support ;) |
| 20:10.55 | stefan | ok |
| 20:12.09 | ao2 | but still, if you build it yourself you have a little more control |
| 20:17.02 | stefan | yes i know |
| 20:17.59 | yang | ao2: I have no xen experience, only linux-vserver |
| 20:17.59 | stefan | we did that before , however arne did it on a self built gentoo system and it really took a long time |
| 20:31.12 | alain2210 | Hello |
| 20:32.22 | alain2210 | WyrM: I have read the history of IRC of evening of april 27. |
| 20:32.43 | alain2210 | you says that you have found the bug about bp. |
| 20:32.53 | WyrM | alain2210: yes. |
| 20:33.01 | WyrM | and I sent instructions to your email. |
| 20:33.02 | WyrM | :) |
| 20:33.29 | alain2210 | sorry, I do not read this mailbox every day. |
| 20:33.35 | alain2210 | I will read it. |
| 20:34.03 | alain2210 | But I have tried you patch seen on irc. and I still have problems. |
| 20:34.22 | alain2210 | the patch makes a lot of changes. |
| 20:34.48 | alain2210 | but what corrects the bug ? |
| 20:35.54 | stefan | do i need to make modules separately ? |
| 20:37.18 | ao2 | stefan, not strictly needed |
| 20:41.32 | stefan | cool it boots |
| 20:41.47 | stefan | how do i get the modules on the system again |
| 20:52.58 | WyrM | alain2210: the mail I sent is with instructions on how to fix the bug only. |
| 20:53.07 | WyrM | the patch on irc is incomplete. |
| 20:53.12 | alain2210 | I'm trying. |
| 20:53.15 | WyrM | I will finish clean up later. |
| 20:54.04 | alain2210 | I does not understand exactly the problem. I will try. |
| 20:56.37 | alain2210 | WyrM: Thanks a lot. It works ! |
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| 21:49.03 | alain2210 | WyrM: very good work. even if I still does not understand. I'm very happy. |
| 21:50.30 | WyrM | alain2210: good. |
| 21:50.36 | WyrM | now it supends resumes ok? |
| 21:51.01 | WyrM | alain2210: you can also remove all the UHCR foo... |
| 21:51.12 | WyrM | its a layering violation. |
| 21:51.30 | WyrM | and the ohci-pxa27x driver does similar stuff. ;) |
| 21:52.26 | WyrM | in fact, I just started the clean-up on the mux_usb.c driver. |
| 21:52.34 | WyrM | and I removed more than 300 lines so far. ;) |
| 21:53.07 | WyrM | considering the driver was 800 lines... Its a lot. |
| 21:55.56 | alain2210 | Yes it works. |
| 21:56.38 | alain2210 | But what was the interest of bvd_ipc_disconnect ? |
| 21:57.20 | alain2210 | It was not done only to broke the driver ;-) |
| 21:58.50 | alain2210 | 300 lines over 800 ! is the driver needed ? ;-) |
| 22:00.08 | WyrM | alain2210: it looks like the driver was touched by a lot of people inside motorola. |
| 22:00.18 | WyrM | every one reinvented the whell a bit ;) |
| 22:00.51 | alain2210 | WyrM: perhaps the kernel publish is not the one used. |
| 22:01.18 | WyrM | alain2210: it is. |
| 22:01.56 | alain2210 | how can you know that ? |
| 22:02.28 | WyrM | alain2210: I can't be sure. |
| 22:02.49 | alain2210 | and how do you have found the solution ? |
| 22:02.54 | WyrM | but I hope motorola did not deliberately released different source. |
| 22:03.06 | alain2210 | I hope also. |
| 22:03.16 | WyrM | also, the first source release contains "motorola confidential" headers.. |
| 22:03.22 | WyrM | and it is complete, for sure :) |
| 22:03.37 | WyrM | I looked at bvd_ipc pointers. |
| 22:03.46 | alain2210 | and ? |
| 22:03.56 | WyrM | on disconnect, even bvd_ipc being a global, it was not being used. |
| 22:04.03 | alain2210 | yes |
| 22:04.25 | WyrM | then I checked the addr returned by the intf_get_data, and saw that it doesn't match the bvd_ipc global. |
| 22:04.34 | WyrM | and it should. |
| 22:04.35 | alain2210 | ok. |
| 22:04.44 | WyrM | then I just fixed it the easiest way possible... |
| 22:04.49 | WyrM | using the global :) |
| 22:06.00 | alain2210 | so to understand why it works on a780 but not on e680, one would have to search why |
| 22:06.05 | WyrM | the disconnect was overwriting some stuff, and making it break elsewhere... |
| 22:06.21 | WyrM | these overwrites always breaks elsewhere. |
| 22:06.22 | alain2210 | usb_get_intfdata(intf) does not gives the good address ? |
| 22:06.29 | WyrM | no. |
| 22:07.37 | alain2210 | the code is better now. |
| 22:07.51 | WyrM | is it stable for you now? |
| 22:08.28 | WyrM | after the clean-up it should be much more stable and cleaner.. |
| 22:08.34 | WyrM | easier to read at least ;) |
| 22:08.34 | alain2210 | yes. |
| 22:09.04 | alain2210 | using cmer, I have standby it a long time. |
| 22:09.16 | alain2210 | (yes I will try sleep). |
| 22:09.45 | WyrM | sleep may still be broken.. |
| 22:09.51 | WyrM | but in this case, not on this driver. |
| 22:10.02 | WyrM | because of gpio sleep states. |
| 22:10.10 | WyrM | (which are not used on standby mode) |
| 22:11.51 | alain2210 | But it will be easier to test now. |
| 22:12.15 | WyrM | well, I always use sleep to test. |
| 22:12.27 | WyrM | with or without the core pm_test |
| 22:12.43 | WyrM | basically it has the same effect... ;) |
| 22:14.10 | alain2210 | yes sleep with pm_test to core is also working. |
| 22:20.12 | stefan | a2o , still there |
| 22:20.43 | stefan | i successfully modprobed lots of camera modules ;) and now i have a video and video9 device |
| 22:21.02 | stefan | any advice how i could test it now ? |
| 22:21.09 | stefan | that is video0 not video 9 |
| 22:24.39 | alain2210 | WyrM: very stable now. goodbye. |
| 22:34.41 | ao2 | stefan, you can use 'motion' from openembedded, or cross compile v4l2-apps, you find them at linuxtv.org somewhere |
| 22:35.51 | ao2 | leaving now, see you tomorrow |
| 22:36.28 | stefan | thanx |
| 22:37.15 | stefan | by the way Thank you whoever fixed the touchscreen keyboard repeat speed problem ;) |
| 22:38.02 | ao2 | you're welcome. cat #openezx | sed -e 's/whoever/WyrM/g' |
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