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| 07:25.25 | LyosNorezel | are there any plans to support the ROKR E8 / EM-30 devices? |
| 07:28.52 | tmzt | magx? |
| 07:30.53 | LyosNorezel | tmzt: I think so |
| 07:31.31 | LyosNorezel | tmzt: yes... according to the motomagx site |
| 07:33.20 | tmzt | there is openmagx but it hasn't really started yet |
| 07:34.21 | LyosNorezel | hmmm |
| 07:36.18 | yang | WyrM: around ? |
| 07:36.34 | LyosNorezel | tmzt: there isn't even a site for openmagx yet... unless google hasn't crawled it yet |
| 07:37.00 | tmzt | maybe #openmagx |
| 07:38.16 | LyosNorezel | heh... not on this server |
| 07:38.33 | tmzt | well, I don't know then |
| 07:38.51 | tmzt | motomodders for themes or whatever |
| 07:39.12 | LyosNorezel | pity |
| 07:40.19 | LyosNorezel | I've got an EM-30 on the way (just bought it off ebay)... I noticed the openesx site didn't have any pics of that board... |
| 07:40.40 | LyosNorezel | any interest in said pics? |
| 07:44.39 | tmzt | in the wiki? |
| 07:45.09 | tmzt | I guess you can create an account there |
| 07:59.36 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:06.45 | yang | hello |
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| 08:15.19 | yang | heya WyrM |
| 08:20.49 | yang | WyrM1: present ? |
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| 08:32.37 | yang | Ciao ao2 ! |
| 08:33.58 | ao2 | Živijo, yang! nice tutorial for E6. I really like E6 btw |
| 08:34.27 | yang | eeeh |
| 08:34.41 | yang | its not complete tutorial, If you could proofread it that would be nice |
| 08:35.25 | yang | and add the text on how to start from the beggining so with a /dev/sda1 SD-card recongnised by PC |
| 08:36.08 | ao2 | at first look it looks nice. Did you actually did the steps while documenting them, didn't you? |
| 08:36.08 | yang | with all data in place I might start to flash mine:) |
| 08:36.24 | yang | no I haven't its what Wyrm wrote, I just placed it on Wiki |
| 08:36.40 | ao2 | I see |
| 08:37.32 | yang | But the first steps are still missing, this is , when you plug the phone to a PC via the USB cable |
| 08:37.48 | yang | the SD card inside the phone mounts in my PC |
| 08:41.20 | ao2 | you need to enter in flash mode when powering on the phone. |
| 08:45.22 | yang | Could you add the missing text to the article? |
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| 08:46.51 | ao2 | I need to search how to enter flash mode in E6 |
| 08:47.04 | ao2 | it must be in the wiki |
| 08:47.42 | yang | aha, so powering on the phone over the power button is no good... |
| 08:47.56 | yang | it brings you to motorola OS |
| 09:03.17 | yang | (when first flashing it) |
| 09:06.57 | ao2 | yang, see http://wiki.openezx.org/Bootloader#Enter_the_bootloader |
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| 09:12.37 | yang | ao2: do you think this should guide should be followed, before approaching teh flashing of E6 - http://wiki.openezx.org/Getting_Started |
| 09:12.51 | yang | how to make partitions on SD card, etc. |
| 09:13.40 | ao2 | yes, normally you first try stuff without flashing |
| 09:14.32 | ao2 | you get the whole picture (ans some confidence with the phone too), and then you flash gen-blob because that's handy |
| 09:14.39 | yang | my card is allready formatted to Fat16 |
| 09:14.39 | ao2 | s/ans/and/ |
| 09:15.41 | ao2 | yang, you need to reformat it, to make two partitions. I've never used the resize partition way |
| 09:17.15 | yang | okay |
| 09:28.19 | yang | ao2: I do format SD card when the phone is booted in MOTOROLA OS? |
| 09:33.04 | yang | emm |
| 09:33.11 | yang | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.31 | yang | is this proper value , shouldn't it be better with FAT16 ? |
| 09:41.52 | yang | type "b" partition ? |
| 09:42.38 | ao2 | yang I do this way: I attach the phone to my host, I wait that it mounts the partitions, then I unmount them and partition the mmc card (/dev/sdb in your case): p1 fat16, p2 ext2. then mkfs.ext2 p2, detach the phone and let the moto os format p1 |
| 09:43.11 | yang | yes, I wonder why there is Win95 FAT32 in the manual |
| 09:43.16 | yang | ok I ll to it FAT16 |
| 09:43.44 | ao2 | it is the same, when you format from moto os it will change it to fat16 anyway |
| 09:44.13 | ao2 | you can edit the wiki if you wanto to make something more clear :) |
| 09:44.22 | ao2 | s/wanto/want/ |
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| 09:55.31 | yang | ao2: how big should the VFAT parition be on a 2 GB SD card, I want to use the most space for OpenEZX distro... What goes to Vfat partitions? |
| 09:56.14 | ao2 | 100Mb or even less is enough |
| 09:56.29 | yang | oh, no need to have it 1 GB like I made it :/ |
| 09:56.41 | yang | I ll make it 200 MB just to be sure its enough |
| 09:56.56 | ao2 | if you want to share files between moto os and openezx 1GB is perfect |
| 09:57.28 | ao2 | for files I mean mp3 videos, and so on |
| 10:01.37 | yang | argh |
| 10:01.46 | yang | write protect on on a SD card (lame) |
| 10:07.21 | yang | ao2: mind to query you ? |
| 10:08.54 | ao2 | yang, ok, but I might be slow in replies because I am doing also something else |
| 10:09.01 | yang | no problem |
| 10:09.20 | yang | I don't want to flood the channel with my installation procedure (it's not interesting) |
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| 10:50.05 | yang | hey gDD |
| 10:51.07 | yang | gDD: do you have now the option to boot your E6 wireless, just with the phone keys |
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| 11:06.21 | gDD | yang: yeah, i have, just use method provided by WyrM |
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| 11:06.57 | gDD | but it currectly uselless because no usable OS |
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| 11:42.06 | WyrM1 | good morning. |
| 11:42.33 | gmzhuo | Hi Wyrm |
| 11:43.18 | WyrM | hi gmzhuo :) |
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| 12:01.51 | yang | gdd |
| 12:02.14 | yang | what if you use this http://people.openezx.org/ao2/images/old/Openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080714-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 12:04.46 | gDD | yang: let me try it:) |
| 12:05.39 | gDD | it is more up to date one, i think it would work. |
| 12:07.06 | yang | well |
| 12:07.15 | yang | Its from 2008, but the last one which builds up |
| 12:09.40 | gDD | yang: what is your phone? A1200? |
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| 12:11.44 | yang | no i am trying E6 |
| 12:14.11 | yang | have you been flashing via USB ? |
| 12:14.44 | gDD | yang: what did you mean flashing? sbf? |
| 12:15.27 | yang | i mean booting it up |
| 12:16.31 | gDD | no, i extract archive to partition 2 and boot it without USB |
| 12:17.31 | gDD | i have 3 partion on SSD but my phone cannot detect partition 3 when i mount it in telnet, maybe firmware issue. |
| 12:17.46 | yang | oh |
| 12:18.01 | yang | I want to first set up boot over USB, later I will try wireless boot |
| 12:18.44 | gDD | but it doesn't matter since zImage can detect partion3 if i want use it to boot. |
| 12:20.39 | gDD | s/SSD/SD/ |
| 12:28.05 | WyrM | pcap irq handler is "working" with struct irq_chip. |
| 12:28.12 | WyrM | but its still buggy. |
| 12:28.32 | ao2 | hi WyrM, very good |
| 12:29.26 | ao2 | tonight I will try again to remove camera branch and recreate it lower int the graph. I think I can mange this way. |
| 12:30.01 | WyrM | I think I need a different workqueue for enable_irq/disable_irq work (set MSR), and this workqueue needs higher priority than the irq handler workqueue (ISR work). |
| 12:30.19 | WyrM | ao2: yes, I think it's the only possible way :) |
| 12:31.27 | gDD | yang: it booted, i can see Openmoko loading screen with very bad color after it screen be black and only a "_" at left top. |
| 12:31.42 | yang | I will boot shortly |
| 12:31.46 | yang | will tell you how it goes |
| 12:32.22 | WyrM | gDD: kdrive crashed. |
| 12:32.26 | tmzt | why does it sound like X crashed |
| 12:32.50 | WyrM | tmzt: hi. |
| 12:32.55 | gDD | can i solve it? |
| 12:33.05 | tmzt | working on upstream stuff again? |
| 12:33.28 | WyrM | gDD: there is a pixman patch from darion for 18bpp. so you can get correct colors with GPE. |
| 12:33.50 | WyrM | For FSO, we will need a similar patch for EFL. |
| 12:34.07 | WyrM | tmzt: yes, cleaning up stuff for mainline... |
| 12:34.34 | gDD | seems not the time for me:) |
| 12:34.36 | WyrM | and so openezx unrelated changes for pxa and pxa2xx-spi.. |
| 12:35.04 | WyrM | s/so/some/ |
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| 12:40.19 | yang | WyrM: tell me something please...after doing this - http://pastebin.com/m27029cec can i proceed with ./boot_usb zImage-200903151215 1743 or do i need to "boot_usb read 0xa0000 1048576 backup-of-kernel-partition |
| 12:40.56 | yang | the phone is now in the "ready mode" |
| 12:43.12 | gmzhuo | yang,if you not flash anything on the phone,you not need bakcup kernel partition |
| 12:43.12 | yang | well, i just want to boot up |
| 12:43.19 | gmzhuo | then,not needed |
| 12:43.29 | yang | ok i will go direct to ./boot_usb zImage-200903151215 1743 |
| 12:45.44 | yang | hm |
| 12:46.05 | yang | ao2: it booted up and now only white light is on |
| 12:46.30 | yang | is the Wyrm's new kernel the right one to boot your older image? |
| 12:47.00 | gDD | yang, maybe you need boot like this: ./boot_usb zImage-200903151215 1743 "console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext2 rootdelay=1 ip=192.168.0.202:192.168.0.200:192.168.0.200:255.255.255.0 debug" |
| 12:47.13 | gDD | this worked for me |
| 12:47.36 | yang | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.53 | yang | (as recongised by PC) |
| 12:47.58 | gDD | yang, yes, this method from wiki of Getting Started |
| 12:48.47 | yang | how do you shutdown a failed boot? remove battery? |
| 12:48.58 | gDD | yang, yes xD |
| 12:49.04 | yang | ok |
| 12:49.24 | gDD | i had do this more than 30 times:) |
| 12:50.50 | yang | well |
| 12:51.03 | yang | this is quite a task to , how to properly remove battery its stuck in there |
| 12:51.29 | yang | i haven't removed it before |
| 12:52.06 | yang | do you lift it on the right side |
| 12:52.11 | yang | where there is a small hole |
| 12:52.24 | yang | don't want to force anything not to break it |
| 12:53.35 | gDD | å³è¾¹æä¸ä¸ªå¹æ§½åï¼ä»è¿éä¸æ |
| 12:53.59 | yang | nice fonts |
| 12:55.11 | yang | considers the online manual for this device |
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| 12:59.10 | yang | shame on motorola product support, this is all i can find http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=175 (no manual) |
| 13:00.06 | yang | gDD, gmzhuo : do you happen to have the online manual for e6 |
| 13:00.30 | gmzhuo | online manual? |
| 13:00.49 | yang | i mean the pdf manual |
| 13:01.14 | yang | where its explained how to remove battery and how to place in the SIM its somehow protected |
| 13:01.19 | gmzhuo | can't found it now |
| 13:01.56 | gDD | yang, i will leave some minutes later and here are something maybe useful: if you try to wireless boot you may need change the param because of IP problem, here is my method to add this line after "title" "kernel" "matchid" it is: param root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext2 ip=192.168.1.2:192.168.1.1:192.168.1.1:255.255.255.0:ezx:usb0:off mem=32M@0xA0000000 mem=16M@0xAC000000 |
| 13:02.33 | gmzhuo | but is there has diffcult to remove battery and place in SIM? |
| 13:02.47 | gDD | manual: http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/e6-general-chat/12774-motorokr-e6-technical-users-manual-6-pdf-files.html |
| 13:02.47 | yang | yes |
| 13:03.34 | gDD | this method found at: http://thisvip.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/multi-boot-on-a1200-from-sd-card/ |
| 13:03.54 | WyrM | yang: I suspect your boot_usb is old. |
| 13:04.02 | yang | WyrM: its from the SVN |
| 13:04.07 | yang | compiled today |
| 13:04.08 | gmzhuo | My english is so bad,so I don't know how to explain it in english:) |
| 13:04.25 | WyrM | yang: and you are getting a white screen on boot? |
| 13:04.43 | gDD | gmzhuo, so in Chinese, isn't yang Chinese? |
| 13:04.45 | WyrM | after sending the openezx kernel to the gen-blob usb mode? |
| 13:06.27 | yang | gDD: thanks for the link |
| 13:06.56 | yang | WyrM: I am using this rootfs - http://people.openezx.org/ao2/images/old/Openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080714-a780.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 13:07.42 | WyrM | white screen is not related with rootfs. |
| 13:07.47 | WyrM | can you see kernel messages? |
| 13:12.35 | yang | yes |
| 13:12.43 | yang | kernel messages, then white screen |
| 13:12.56 | yang | this battery got stuck |
| 13:13.22 | yang | ok |
| 13:13.27 | yang | its out |
| 13:13.52 | yang | heh, yeah there are a few "tricks" |
| 13:14.03 | yang | SIM cannot be placed if the battery is in place |
| 13:14.19 | yang | I was trying like crazy before, glad i didn't break something |
| 13:15.02 | yang | It hapens when your IQ equals to foot size |
| 13:16.25 | yang | trying again with gDD's procedure |
| 13:17.42 | WyrM | kernel messages and then white screen? |
| 13:17.54 | WyrM | hum, never seen anything like that. |
| 13:18.25 | WyrM | white screen is generally a kernel panic before lcd init. |
| 13:18.52 | WyrM | I can't imagine anything causing a white screen after the kernel has booted .. |
| 13:19.09 | WyrM | it could freeze the screen, flush it with kernel messages, etc.. |
| 13:19.14 | WyrM | but no white screen. |
| 13:19.55 | WyrM | unless, of course, userspace draws a white screen :) |
| 13:20.54 | yang | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.56 | gDD | WyrM, but it is useness when i try it, if without param i got white screen too. |
| 13:21.25 | yang | i tried with this |
| 13:21.25 | WyrM | gDD: then your boot_usb version is probably old. |
| 13:21.32 | yang | ./boot_usb zImage-200903151215 1743 "console=tty1 root=/dev/sdb2 rootfstype=ext2 rootdelay=1 ip=192.168.0.202:192.168.0.200:192.168.0.200:255.255.255.0 debug" |
| 13:21.41 | WyrM | gDD: and your white screen is at the start, not after the kernel boots. |
| 13:21.55 | yang | WyrM: old, if its from SVN |
| 13:22.11 | WyrM | yang: was talking to gDD. |
| 13:22.33 | WyrM | white screen at boot (no kernel messages at all) is a kernel panic before lcd init. |
| 13:22.46 | WyrM | some time ago, I remove memory map configuration from the kernel. |
| 13:23.04 | WyrM | and changed boot_usb to pass this configuration via ATAG_MEM. |
| 13:23.15 | gDD | WyrM, yes, at start, and my boot_usb version is not old, brand builded 2weeks ago by gmzhuo |
| 13:23.31 | WyrM | so, if you use an old boot_usb with a bleeding edge kernel, you will get a white screen on boot (with no kernel messages). |
| 13:24.05 | yang | my phone shows : OpenEZX blob 210215 |
| 13:24.13 | yang | now |
| 13:24.18 | WyrM | on gen-blob (boot from mmc), you need to pass "mem=" arguments to cmdline, otherwise it will white screen too. |
| 13:24.23 | WyrM | because of the same reason. |
| 13:24.24 | yang | ./boot_usb zImage-200903151215 1743 |
| 13:27.40 | WyrM | yang: your error is unknown to me. |
| 13:27.53 | WyrM | as I said, I never see a white screen after kernel messages. |
| 13:29.56 | yang | okay, now...it bypassed kernel, then the crazy-colors openmoko bootup screen with progress bar, and then it ends with "-" |
| 13:30.14 | yang | simple black screen, only "-" |
| 13:30.24 | WyrM | then its not a white screen. |
| 13:30.36 | WyrM | its X that crashed. |
| 13:30.38 | yang | no, that was obviously some error (first boot attempt) |
| 13:30.51 | WyrM | I can't help you, as im currently using no GUI. |
| 13:31.19 | yang | ok |
| 13:31.46 | yang | gDD: you probably encounter thte same error, from what I read... |
| 13:32.07 | gDD | yang, yeah~ same error:) |
| 13:32.15 | WyrM | if he is using the same rootfs, very likely. :) |
| 13:32.28 | yang | I ll be waiting now for ao2 that one of his new builds succeed, good luck ! |
| 13:32.52 | WyrM | but the white screen without a cmdline with boot_usb on gDD phone is not normal. |
| 13:32.58 | WyrM | this shouldn't happen. |
| 13:33.38 | gDD | WyrM, is it happened on your E6? |
| 13:34.16 | gDD | err, i mean A1200 maybe |
| 13:37.30 | yang | handles out "una birra" for ao2 |
| 13:38.10 | yang | ao2: I am curious do you get a working screen in A910 with this rootfs? |
| 13:39.43 | WyrM | gDD: what? |
| 13:39.52 | WyrM | on my a1200 everything work as expected. |
| 13:40.03 | WyrM | I don't need to pass cmdline with boot_usb. |
| 13:40.16 | WyrM | If I don't pass the cmdline, then the kernel built-in cmdline is used. |
| 13:40.24 | WyrM | and it boots fine. No white screen. |
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| 13:41.41 | gDD | that's great! |
| 13:47.21 | gDD | the console one works fine(of course nothing but black and white):) "Angstrom" |
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| 13:49.58 | yang | gDD: the console one works on your E6? |
| 13:50.09 | yang | which rootfs? |
| 13:50.45 | gDD | yang, yeah, actually nothing, show me Angstrom ascii logo and then let me login but i don't have a keyboard on it xD |
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| 13:52.08 | WyrM | gDD: have you tried usblan? |
| 13:52.14 | WyrM | it works on e6 too :) |
| 13:52.29 | yang | gDD: ah |
| 13:52.35 | gDD | WyrM, you mean access network by USB? |
| 13:52.38 | yang | gDD: plug it via USB? |
| 13:52.43 | yang | to a PC |
| 13:52.46 | yang | then ssh into it |
| 13:53.05 | gDD | and then? |
| 13:53.44 | yang | then you can access it I think |
| 13:54.37 | gDD | ah, i thought USBLAN is for internet access, so i can use conputer keyboard to type |
| 13:55.06 | gDD | gDD meant i thought USBLAN is for internet access before, |
| 13:56.20 | gDD | i am not tried ssh before, i just use telnet before. |
| 14:03.59 | gDD | is that mean i can use keyboard on computer to access phone via USB? i tryed ssh 196.168.1.2 but not work. |
| 14:06.26 | yang | gDD: WyrM maybe you wanna add some info to http://wiki.openezx.org/E6_Flashing |
| 14:07.27 | gDD | yang, change it's name to E6_Multi-boot is better |
| 14:08.31 | yang | yeah |
| 14:09.11 | yang | http://wiki.openezx.org/E6_Multi_boot |
| 14:10.10 | trod | newbie question: can we use any arm cross compiler instead of arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc for compiling 2.6 kernel to boot on E6? |
| 14:11.21 | gmzhuo | trod,I think you can |
| 14:11.27 | gmzhuo | just have a test |
| 14:12.17 | trod | gmzhuo: I will try |
| 14:12.46 | gmzhuo | which cross compiler are you use? |
| 14:13.00 | WyrM | trod: use a GNUEABI compiler. |
| 14:13.19 | WyrM | yang: wiki is public, please add it yourself :) |
| 14:13.27 | yang | gDD: yang is probably a wide used chinesse name, but I am not Chinesse (to answer your question) |
| 14:13.31 | trod | I am using arch linux and found cross-arm-elf- compiler, I am trying to learn about cross compilers |
| 14:13.33 | WyrM | yang: I review it from time to time.. :) |
| 14:14.15 | WyrM | trod: please use something new. |
| 14:14.42 | WyrM | you can download a binary from codesourcery, and it should work. |
| 14:14.54 | gDD | yang, yes yang is widely used:) |
| 14:15.23 | trod | WyrM: sure, thanks |
| 14:15.33 | yang | WyrM: I copied some of the stuff you explained into that article, thought you might want to proofread it |
| 14:16.10 | WyrM | yang: its on the wiki? I will review it later, thanks! :) |
| 14:17.06 | yang | ok |
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| 16:44.30 | sabrod | Hi, |
| 16:45.44 | sabrod | Daniel, congrats! (irq-chip !! ) |
| 16:51.48 | sabrod | After some suspend debugging sessions, I suppose you had great pleasure in making this working ;) |
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| 18:33.15 | mickeyl | please remind me about the partitioning genblob expects |
| 18:33.18 | mickeyl | (on SD) |
| 18:33.20 | mickeyl | 1. vfat |
| 18:33.25 | mickeyl | 2. ext |
| 18:33.34 | mickeyl | boot stuff on 1. or 2.? |
| 18:34.08 | sabrod | Yes, boot folder on first part (fat or vfat) |
| 18:34.17 | mickeyl | right, thanks |
| 18:34.57 | sabrod | And you need to set the mem= on the menu.lst , ( the other way, bootusb set them for you) |
| 18:35.31 | sabrod | afaik |
| 18:41.14 | mickeyl | yeah, true |
| 18:41.17 | mickeyl | been bitten by that once |
| 18:41.24 | mickeyl | kernel just hangs otherwise |
| 18:41.41 | sabrod | hehe |
| 18:51.11 | mickeyl | hmm, i wonder whether the a780 will eat a 8gig µSD |
| 18:51.18 | mickeyl | anyone ever tried? |
| 18:51.31 | sabrod | genblob, will not... |
| 18:51.37 | sabrod | I tried :) |
| 18:52.35 | sabrod | But it seems Muromec found a working patch for the 2.4 kernel (on A1200) |
| 18:52.45 | mickeyl | oh, ok |
| 18:52.49 | mickeyl | 4g? |
| 18:52.59 | sabrod | Found or build it...? |
| 18:53.18 | sabrod | Hehe, 4G are not necessary sdhc, afaik, so maybe... |
| 18:54.08 | sabrod | But I suppose no sdhc can work with actual genblob... |
| 18:55.01 | mickeyl | mmh |
| 18:55.03 | mickeyl | ok |
| 18:55.07 | mickeyl | searches for some tiny ones |
| 18:58.50 | mickeyl | my last 2.6.29 would always kernel panic if booted with usb in |
| 18:58.59 | mickeyl | had to always unplug before |
| 18:59.04 | mickeyl | any idea whether that's been fixed meanwhile? |
| 19:01.24 | sabrod | Heh, it's only on some phones it seems... |
| 19:01.58 | sabrod | Particularly on the gen1, isn't it ? |
| 19:02.26 | mickeyl | yes |
| 19:02.30 | mickeyl | didn't use my 1200 since ages |
| 19:02.48 | sabrod | Ok, could be this, but I freshl heard that it happened on on gen2... |
| 19:03.06 | sabrod | SO you're probably right concerning this 2.6.29 ? |
| 19:04.13 | sabrod | Between ./bootusb genblob 0 and bootusb machid zimage I think the gen1 need to be unlpluged/ plugged. |
| 19:04.35 | sabrod | I only have an A780 for a few days so, I never tested :) |
| 19:04.57 | sabrod | I put genblob in an instant, and never used that comands combo I think :) |
| 19:09.50 | mickeyl | hehe |
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| 19:10.31 | mickeyl | i think i owe it to the ezx folks to get 1st gen support done first |
| 19:10.40 | mickeyl | will concentrate on 2nd gen afterwards |
| 19:11.22 | ade|desk | hugs mickeyl |
| 19:12.02 | mickeyl | :) |
| 19:12.19 | ade|desk | toodle pip |
| 19:12.19 | florian | re |
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| 20:24.25 | stefan^_ | hi |
| 20:24.38 | stefan^_ | howz everyone doin, sabrod any news ;) |
| 20:25.10 | sabrod | Hi stefan! |
| 20:25.14 | stefan^_ | hi |
| 20:25.32 | stefan^_ | trying to run a 24/7 test now |
| 20:25.44 | stefan^_ | got a a780 on power and wifi |
| 20:26.22 | stefan^_ | will cut power everyday at 8:00 and bring back power at 805 |
| 20:26.34 | stefan^_ | doesnt work with battery unfortunately |
| 20:26.59 | stefan^_ | since i cannot cut power and bring it back on with battery yet |
| 20:27.19 | stefan^_ | (soldered the power button shut to ensure usb host functionality) |
| 20:27.49 | stefan^_ | switching the power with a programmable timer plug |
| 20:29.59 | stefan^_ | need to write some script to successfully bring back a disfunctional wifi adapter |
| 20:31.24 | sabrod | do you use a 3.7v regulator or adjustable regulator or any diode chain to drop down the voltage and protect the phone from the 5v? |
| 20:31.38 | sabrod | :) |
| 20:32.14 | sabrod | the 805 (hour of power ) made me think of it (7)805 :) |
| 20:36.20 | stefan^_ | no |
| 20:36.42 | stefan^_ | i use a 5v power supply on the battery pins |
| 20:37.08 | sabrod | Humm... |
| 20:37.13 | stefan^_ | 3.7 is not needed, you can at least supply up to 4.2 since the battery charges to that voltage (lithium polymer) |
| 20:37.49 | sabrod | Yes, but a PSU is so linear... |
| 20:38.04 | stefan^_ | until now i didnt fry not one phone with 5 |
| 20:38.59 | sabrod | You may have some surprise... I don't know, but usually manufacturers don't even think of these kind of uses :) |
| 20:39.05 | stefan^_ | im on the phone in ssh right now via wifi , installing stuff and writing python scripts |
| 20:39.35 | stefan^_ | no warranties ;) |
| 20:39.38 | sabrod | Well a mobo nude, should tell you if the tiny internal regulator is too hot.. |
| 20:40.02 | stefan^_ | do you know where it is |
| 20:40.02 | stefan^_ | ? |
| 20:40.21 | sabrod | Did you made some boot with the phone case open ? |
| 20:40.24 | sabrod | :) |
| 20:40.34 | stefan^_ | sure |
| 20:40.37 | stefan^_ | all the time |
| 20:40.41 | stefan^_ | its lying here |
| 20:40.41 | sabrod | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.48 | stefan^_ | want me to post some pix ;) |
| 20:40.55 | stefan^_ | nude pix of a780 |
| 20:41.09 | sabrod | Pix are on the wiki :) |
| 20:41.49 | sabrod | Damn, now I'm getting hot ! ;) |
| 20:42.07 | stefan^_ | no while running and connected to wifi ;) |
| 20:42.18 | stefan^_ | i mean nude action pix |
| 20:42.35 | sabrod | Arrf! :) |
| 20:42.58 | stefan^_ | hehe |
| 20:43.06 | stefan^_ | the screen misses one color |
| 20:44.15 | stefan^_ | but its because i accidentally cut into the screen flat cable once |
| 20:44.16 | sabrod | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.16 | stefan^_ | but we already disconnected every part of the phone while running no problem |
| 20:44.31 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.32 | sabrod | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.52 | sabrod | Oh, those flat platics cables and their connectors are hell! |
| 20:45.54 | sabrod | :( |
| 20:46.39 | sabrod | Bu if you cut it...it's a little bit normal that it don't work no more :) |
| 20:48.04 | sabrod | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.11 | stefan^_ | sure |
| 20:48.13 | stefan^_ | it works |
| 20:48.20 | stefan^_ | it misses yellow now |
| 20:48.21 | sabrod | :) |
| 20:48.32 | stefan^_ | there seems to be 1 signal connection missing |
| 20:48.36 | stefan^_ | touchscreen is o |
| 20:48.37 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 20:49.00 | stefan^_ | its our dev phone ;) to try out what the hardware can tak3e |
| 20:49.34 | stefan^_ | i already threw it across the room smashing it , all parts were disconnected after that, but the phone survived ;= |
| 20:49.37 | stefan^_ | torture chamber |
| 20:50.00 | sabrod | Oh, too bad ! :) |
| 20:50.37 | stefan^_ | i was actually trying to test a special foam enhanced casing, but i forget to place some screws ;) |
| 20:50.54 | stefan^_ | if you want to put anything on a robot it needs to survive quite a hit |
| 20:52.05 | sabrod | Well, do some videos and ask motorola some money for this kind of advertisment!! O_O |
| 20:53.53 | sabrod | A780 seems very solid, for hits. under pressure, maybe the case need some protections... |
| 20:54.08 | stefan^_ | http://79.212.121.187/a780/a780_stripped.jpg |
| 20:54.17 | stefan^_ | the case is nice |
| 20:54.24 | stefan^_ | you can disconnect the flap |
| 20:54.39 | stefan^_ | but then you miss the loudspeaker :( |
| 20:55.20 | sabrod | Great! :) |
| 20:55.40 | sabrod | The GPS is working, like this? |
| 20:56.05 | sabrod | I've heard it was wired over a flex cable ... |
| 20:58.09 | stefan^_ | no right now we dont have gps on this phone, its from china |
| 20:58.20 | stefan^_ | also i did not experiment with gps on 2.6 yet |
| 20:58.42 | stefan^_ | i will have to once i build the first plane ;) |
| 20:58.51 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: it comes over a mux channel. Connected to the BP. |
| 20:59.04 | stefan_schmidt_ | Realy bad performance and power consumption |
| 20:59.31 | stefan_schmidt_ | I would go for a USB GPS instead if needed. Or BT. |
| 20:59.42 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 21:00.02 | stefan^_ | but im not planning on a plane yet ;) |
| 21:00.24 | sabrod | ao2 made a parser called http://people.openezx.org/ao2/gps/ if you want to try with EMEA software. |
| 21:00.26 | stefan^_ | i would LOVE to get the camera working soon |
| 21:00.32 | stefan^_ | cool |
| 21:00.41 | stefan^_ | anybody got it yet ? |
| 21:00.55 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: hmm, is the camera on A780 not already working? |
| 21:01.06 | stefan_schmidt_ | Or do you have one with another sensor chip? |
| 21:01.18 | sabrod | camera work! (well it's what the openezx.or page says :) ) |
| 21:01.46 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan_schmidt_: ao2 did some tests to get the NMEA stream decoded from the mux channel |
| 21:02.29 | stefan^_ | i dont know how to get the sensor chip info yet |
| 21:02.35 | stefan^_ | i have about 6 phones |
| 21:03.11 | stefan^_ | i could try again with a v4linux software ive written on some gumstix boards |
| 21:03.17 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: Either look for the chips or try some i2c utils to probe for it. Nor sure how easy the latter is. |
| 21:03.45 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: ao2 did the camera work so he should be able to give you some tips for testing it |
| 21:03.54 | stefan^_ | look for the chip? |
| 21:03.59 | stefan^_ | ok ill do that thanks |
| 21:06.11 | stefan^_ | i have the camera module here |
| 21:06.30 | stefan^_ | can i get the lens attachment of the chip somehow ? |
| 21:06.45 | stefan^_ | it seems its glued together |
| 21:07.10 | stefan^_ | i could try to use gentle force ;) |
| 21:08.00 | stefan_schmidt_ | moment |
| 21:10.09 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: not sure if the sensor chip is directly on the lense. Don't know the board layout |
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| 21:19.40 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 21:20.17 | stefan^_ | there is a little sticker on the camera chip connector. it says F-060110 |
| 21:20.46 | stefan_schmidt_ | does not ring a bell |
| 21:26.31 | stefan^_ | does anybody know how to control which applications are started in the graphical environment |
| 21:26.56 | stefan^_ | it constantly runs low on memory when i try to install stuff |
| 21:27.04 | sabrod | zhone? |
| 21:27.22 | stefan^_ | all these matchbox-window and clock applet thins and everything |
| 21:27.34 | stefan^_ | its an angstrom rootfs |
| 21:27.40 | stefan^_ | gpe-stuff |
| 21:27.50 | stefan^_ | im not so sure what it is exactly |
| 21:28.00 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: find / -name *session* |
| 21:28.12 | stefan_schmidt_ | There should be a xsession file that starts the stuff |
| 21:28.30 | stefan_schmidt_ | Anyway, have to go. cu later |
| 21:28.41 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.05 | stefan_schmidt_ | stefan^_: no, thats already matchbox running |
| 21:29.10 | stefan_schmidt_ | should be in /etc |
| 21:29.12 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 21:29.21 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.25 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.31 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.35 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.40 | stefan^_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.57 | stefan_schmidt_ | Xsession should be your friend |
| 21:30.00 | stefan_schmidt_ | night |
| 21:30.04 | stefan^_ | ok thanks |
| 21:30.19 | sabrod | gn stefan_schmidt_ |
| 21:30.35 | stefan^_ | gute nacht |
| 21:35.15 | stefan^_ | ls |
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| 22:06.05 | ao2 | stefan^_, camera works if the sensor is a mt9m111, I also tested it with the 'motion' software. But I've never tested it for performance. |
| 22:06.45 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 22:07.03 | stefan^_ | how do i find out if i have that sensor or if i have another problem |
| 22:15.18 | ao2 | check with i2c-tools addredd for mt9m111 is 0x5d on pxa-i2c.0 |
| 22:15.28 | ao2 | s/addredd/address/ |
| 22:16.03 | ao2 | if there's a chip ath this address you could try reading revision info always with i2ctools |
| 22:16.54 | ao2 | keep in mind than the sensor must be powered up to be detected, look at latest code in ezx/mach/camera branch (which is going to be renamed btw) |
| 23:19.00 | mickeyl | argh |
| 23:19.05 | mickeyl | ok |
| 23:19.14 | mickeyl | no now i know why my selfbuilt kernel doesn't boot |
| 23:19.31 | mickeyl | i built the master branch from openezx.org :D |
| 23:20.06 | sabrod | :) |
| 23:20.35 | stefan^_ | did you do the correct power button voodoo magic ? |
| 23:21.41 | ao2 | mickeyl, you live in the future, someday that branch will boot, just not yet :) |
| 23:22.00 | mickeyl | hehe, right |
| 23:22.11 | mickeyl | builds ezx/current now |
| 23:22.18 | sabrod | Oh, yeah, it's coming ;) |
| 23:22.38 | stefan^_ | which phone are you on / micke |
| 23:22.40 | stefan^_ | y |
| 23:23.03 | mickeyl | a780 |
| 23:23.08 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 23:23.35 | mickeyl | 1200 and 910 later |
| 23:23.45 | mickeyl | no point in moving now |
| 23:24.16 | mickeyl | 910 will be interesting |
| 23:24.17 | stefan^_ | no point for me anyway, i want usb host working now |
| 23:24.21 | stefan^_ | ;) |
| 23:24.23 | mickeyl | since we need to change the UI then |
| 23:24.30 | stefan^_ | ok |
| 23:24.31 | mickeyl | no ts |
| 23:24.46 | mickeyl | has the usb host patch been integrated yet? |
| 23:24.52 | stefan^_ | i dont think so |
| 23:25.43 | stefan^_ | but i didnt check either |
| 23:25.54 | stefan^_ | wyrm said he has a skeleton ready |
| 23:26.24 | stefan^_ | actually i have some really low power devices running without external power |
| 23:26.38 | stefan^_ | (atmel usb 162 microcontroller) |
| 23:27.06 | stefan^_ | but no wifi without external power :( |
| 23:27.29 | stefan^_ | got wifi running with 3.7 volts of internal battery though |
| 23:27.33 | stefan^_ | but not for long |
| 23:27.56 | mickeyl | fun |
| 23:27.58 | stefan^_ | and also only via direct connection, which might kill the battery because no cut-off protection |
| 23:30.17 | stefan^_ | ok leaving for sleep state now ;) |
| 23:30.28 | mickeyl | k, g'night |
| 23:30.58 | sabrod | good night |
| 23:31.14 | stefan^_ | nacht ;) |
| 23:34.41 | mickeyl | hmm, bummer |
| 23:34.46 | mickeyl | still no boot |
| 23:35.07 | mickeyl | seems it doesn't get kernel arsg |
| 23:35.18 | mickeyl | although i have a cmdline statement in the boot.lst |
| 23:36.24 | mickeyl | uh oh |
| 23:36.28 | mickeyl | ~lart m |
| 23:36.28 | purl | rm -rf's m |
| 23:40.10 | mickeyl | yay |
| 23:40.11 | mickeyl | here we are |
| 23:40.16 | mickeyl | updates oe |
| 23:40.19 | ao2 | mickeyl, at last |
| 23:40.22 | ao2 | :) |
| 23:40.29 | mickeyl | it helps to add the 'param' key |
| 23:40.30 | mickeyl | *cough* |
| 23:40.38 | mickeyl | ok |
| 23:40.43 | mickeyl | so now i have a booting kernel + rootfs |
| 23:40.47 | mickeyl | all built out of latest OE |
| 23:40.51 | mickeyl | looking good |
| 23:40.57 | mickeyl | tomorrow I'll launch X |
| 23:41.00 | mickeyl | g'night |
| 23:41.49 | ao2 | good night, I am leaving too |
| 23:42.25 | sabrod | night mickey, ao2 :) |
| 23:42.43 | ao2 | bye |
