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| 03:49.23 | gDD | i tested thar EZXCodec can completely extract .sbf file, but it cannot extract .sbf of qtopia-ezx, wired. |
| 03:49.29 | gDD | s/thar/that/ |
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| 07:54.19 | WyrM1 | sabrod: 0xea000000 is b 0x8 |
| 07:54.50 | WyrM1 | this means that probably your MBM is at 0x0 not at 0x20000. |
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| 08:18.13 | WyrM | good morning ao2. |
| 08:19.46 | ao2 | I've just resumed from suspend :) |
| 08:20.07 | WyrM | ao2: what is the .wakeup field on struct gpio_keys_button for? |
| 08:20.12 | WyrM | ao2: good! :) |
| 08:21.22 | ao2 | I was referring to myself, physically, just to be clear :) |
| 08:21.40 | WyrM | LOL! |
| 08:23.23 | ao2 | WyrM, the .wakeup key is a boolean which tells if the pin should be set as a wakeup source, as gpio-keys is used for the lid on a780 could it be what we need? |
| 08:23.46 | WyrM | I tought that this was set by mfp. |
| 08:24.14 | ao2 | let me look at gpio-keys source, I'll tell you in a minute |
| 08:24.15 | WyrM | I was using GPIO12_GPIO | WAKEUP_ON_EDGE_BOTH on my suspend/resume tests. |
| 08:25.19 | WyrM | thanks! |
| 08:25.22 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03Daniel Ribeiro <drwyrm@gmail.com> 07ezx/current * r4c57947d0e 10openezx/arch/arm/mach-pxa/ezx.c: allow wakeup on flip/locksw gpio |
| 08:25.27 | WyrM | also I can't wake with the keypad. |
| 08:25.54 | WyrM | I need to figure out how to do it without messing with the power manager registers directly. |
| 08:38.13 | ao2 | ok, so if .wakeup is set we call device_init_wakeup(dev, 1) which enable irq_wake on suspend and disable it on resume. This is done on pxa27x_keypad as well |
| 08:38.38 | ao2 | I still don't know exactly what enable_irq_wake does |
| 08:39.25 | WyrM | enable_irq_wake also sets the wakeup bit for the gpio. |
| 08:40.05 | WyrM | on pxa27x_keypad we also have a .wakeup field? |
| 08:40.32 | WyrM | I will try with .wakeup = 1 and without the mfp WAKEUP_ON_EDGE_BOTH. |
| 08:42.57 | ao2 | I can't see the .wakeup in pxa27x_keupad, it looks like wakeup is set unconditionally. BTW, in pxa27x_keypad_suspend() they stop the clock and then set the irq, is this right or should it be the inverse? |
| 08:43.31 | WyrM | irqs are set for all MKIN pins? |
| 08:43.35 | WyrM | I think its ok. |
| 08:44.24 | WyrM | because you want to wakeup on all pins, and the clock needs to be disabled on suspend (it will be disabled by hardware anyway). |
| 08:46.13 | Hopscotch | good morning |
| 08:46.28 | WyrM | Hopscotch: good morning! :) |
| 08:47.11 | ao2 | hi Hopscotch |
| 08:47.44 | WyrM | ao2: .wakeup of gpio-keys doesn't work alone :/ |
| 08:49.03 | WyrM | and I can't wakeup with keypad even with WAKEUP_ON_LEVEL_HIGH for the MKIN pins |
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| 08:50.25 | WyrM | jonwil: good morning. |
| 08:50.36 | jonwil | hi |
| 08:50.47 | jonwil | Is it possible to build a cygwin/win32->ezx/magx cross compiler? |
| 08:51.16 | WyrM | I don't see a reason for it to not be possible. |
| 08:51.21 | jonwil | ok |
| 08:52.50 | jonwil | be nice to be able to do ezx compiles without needing to wrestle with my flakey linux box |
| 08:54.18 | WyrM | heh, funny, flakey linux and stable windows. |
| 08:54.30 | WyrM | you live on wonderland. lol. |
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| 08:55.12 | jonwil | Its not linux thats flakey, its the hardware on the old box |
| 08:55.22 | jonwil | Its a P4 2.4GHz that has seen better days |
| 08:55.31 | jonwil | I suspect its the RAM thats going |
| 08:55.47 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03Daniel Ribeiro <drwyrm@gmail.com> 07ezx/current * r97d02c70ac 10openezx/arch/arm/mach-pxa/ezx.c: enable gpio-keys internal wakeup (seems to not work, but whatever...) |
| 08:55.56 | WyrM | I can't use windows for anything else than games. :) |
| 08:55.57 | jonwil | and I just dont have the time or money to find out whats broken and get a replacement :) |
| 08:56.10 | jonwil | well I use windows for everything basically |
| 08:56.13 | jonwil | including games |
| 08:56.18 | jonwil | :) |
| 09:10.21 | ghane | jonwil: or you use virtualbox or vmware, probably easier to setup |
| 09:26.58 | WyrM | ao2: the irq wake that is set is for the keypad controller irq. |
| 09:27.22 | WyrM | ao2: I don't think that this can work, I think that it will not generate irqs with the clock disabled. |
| 09:27.26 | WyrM | I will look at the manual. |
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| 09:28.18 | ao2 | WyrM, is gpio_set_wake() used when needed, I am still checking that |
| 09:28.34 | ao2 | the second comma is a '?' :) |
| 09:29.40 | WyrM | I see only irq_set_wake on pxa27x_keypad.c |
| 09:33.15 | WyrM | "The keypad controller itself must remain enabled (with all selected features remaining enabled) |
| 09:33.15 | WyrM | during entry into standby or sleep mode. This is to assure that keypad activity can successfully |
| 09:33.16 | WyrM | cause exit from standby or sleep mode." |
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| 09:47.31 | WyrM | if I don't disable the keypad clock the phone suspends and imediatelly resumes.. |
| 09:47.38 | WyrM | so it work either :/ |
| 09:47.48 | WyrM | s/work/won't work/ |
| 09:50.40 | WyrM | no. |
| 09:50.50 | WyrM | its the BP that is auto resuming the kernel. |
| 09:55.12 | WyrM | leaving the keypad clock enabled won't help at all. |
| 09:58.25 | WyrM | echo "enabled" > /sys/devices/platform/pxa27x-keypad/power/wakeup |
| 09:58.36 | WyrM | err, this really should be the default. |
| 10:02.15 | WyrM | It IS the default. And it won't work :( |
| 10:22.52 | WyrM | I will do something else. back on this later. |
| 10:23.05 | WyrM | time for some gen2 bootloader hacking. |
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| 11:04.01 | yang | hi WyrM |
| 11:25.16 | WyrM | hi yang. good morning :) |
| 13:27.43 | WyrM | gen2 script to hack the bootloader for gen2 is ready. |
| 13:28.04 | WyrM | lets see if it will brick my a1200. lol. |
| 13:31.03 | WyrM | point of no return. lol. |
| 13:31.27 | WyrM | original fw boots. |
| 13:31.47 | sabrod | :) |
| 13:32.31 | WyrM | testing suspend/resume now... |
| 13:32.54 | WyrM | forgot the mmc... |
| 13:33.29 | jonwil | ok, good to know that we have a working new bootloader for Gen2 :) |
| 13:33.39 | WyrM | jonwil: not new. |
| 13:33.43 | WyrM | its the same bootloader. |
| 13:33.47 | jonwil | hacked then |
| 13:33.55 | WyrM | but with a small asm hack to suspend/resume the linux way |
| 13:34.08 | WyrM | its compatible with the original fw, and with linux mainline. |
| 13:34.30 | WyrM | this way we don't need an ugly hack on kernel code to suspend/resume with the motorola way... |
| 13:35.40 | WyrM | great! |
| 13:35.43 | WyrM | its working! |
| 13:35.54 | WyrM | I will release the script. |
| 13:36.26 | WyrM | as it was with the gen1 script, the first version will only work with the exact same bootloader as mine. |
| 13:37.14 | WyrM | I will check the bootloader of each other phone people want to hack the bootloader before adding the md5sums to the script. |
| 13:37.40 | WyrM | so its 100% safe. guaranteed by me. |
| 13:37.43 | WyrM | no bricks. |
| 13:39.36 | WyrM | http://people.openezx.org/wyrm/patch_blob-a1200 |
| 13:42.01 | sabrod | So my A910i have the mbm at the place other gen2 have the blob,I don't get what you told me this morning... |
| 13:42.14 | sabrod | I have a different "header" :) |
| 13:43.37 | WyrM | no |
| 13:43.50 | WyrM | blob(lbl) on gen2 is at 0x80000 |
| 13:44.01 | WyrM | mbm is usually at 0x20000 |
| 13:44.12 | WyrM | but on your a910i it looks like its at 0x0. |
| 13:44.13 | WyrM | :) |
| 13:44.29 | sabrod | Ok, that's weird! :p |
| 13:44.41 | WyrM | on all phones, the first instruction (0x0) ia a "jump to mbm start". |
| 13:44.58 | WyrM | s/ia/is/ |
| 13:44.59 | jonwil | how many generations of moto linux phones are there? |
| 13:45.05 | WyrM | 4 |
| 13:45.16 | jonwil | and those are? |
| 13:45.19 | WyrM | 3 based on ezx. |
| 13:45.23 | WyrM | and 1 magx |
| 13:45.28 | jonwil | first gen is e680/a780, right? |
| 13:45.31 | WyrM | gen0, 1 and 2. |
| 13:45.38 | WyrM | real first gen is a728 |
| 13:45.46 | WyrM | ezx with IR and no BT. |
| 13:45.59 | jonwil | ok, so gen0 is a768 |
| 13:46.03 | jonwil | gen1 is a780/e680 |
| 13:46.12 | jonwil | gen2 is a1200/a910/E2/E6, right? |
| 13:46.17 | WyrM | correct. |
| 13:46.32 | jonwil | there are really 2 generations of magx |
| 13:46.40 | jonwil | gen1 is Z6 and V8 with Opera browser |
| 13:46.47 | WyrM | hum. |
| 13:47.01 | jonwil | gen2 is E8, Z6w, U9 and others with new Webkit browser |
| 13:47.10 | jonwil | btw is there a browser running for openezx yet? |
| 13:47.17 | WyrM | I don't think that opera browser (or any other userspace changes) would mark a new generation |
| 13:47.32 | WyrM | 0x1x2 have some big hardware changes... |
| 13:47.36 | jonwil | ok, yeah true |
| 13:47.52 | jonwil | although I think there may be different generations of magx hardware too |
| 13:48.02 | jonwil | certainly there is at least 2 (GSM and 3G) |
| 13:48.02 | WyrM | yes, its possible. |
| 13:48.07 | jonwil | there is that one 3G phone |
| 13:48.25 | jonwil | will be intersting to see the kernel for that one |
| 13:48.29 | jonwil | if moto ever posts it |
| 13:50.10 | WyrM | sabrod: you can try to patch the bootloader of your a910i too. |
| 13:50.20 | WyrM | it changes the LBL partition, not the MBM. |
| 13:50.47 | WyrM | but by default it changes nothing, you have to uncomment the flash line. ;) |
| 13:51.10 | jonwil | Whats interesting is the amount of cable company head-end hardware that Motorola is using linux on (and posting OSS code for) lately |
| 13:51.55 | WyrM | and very likely your LBL will not match the md5sums on the script, in this case, please send the "blob-original" file to me and I update the script. |
| 13:51.58 | sabrod | Ok, that's so nice... |
| 13:52.21 | sabrod | Here is the first bytes of an A910i : http://pastebin.com/m631ef81a |
| 13:52.41 | sabrod | So we can see the mbm begginning? :) |
| 13:53.23 | WyrM | yes, it really looks like mbm is at 0x0. |
| 13:53.45 | WyrM | send me 256k from 0x0, and I can confirm this to you :) |
| 13:54.15 | sabrod | Sure :) |
| 13:54.39 | sabrod | email? |
| 13:54.49 | WyrM | yes please. |
| 13:55.19 | jonwil | so does openezx have a browser yet? |
| 13:55.34 | jonwil | or are we taking one from elsewhere? |
| 13:57.39 | WyrM | openezx deals with the kernel. |
| 13:57.47 | WyrM | we take the rootfs from angstrom. |
| 13:58.00 | WyrM | my rootfs currently has no GUI at all :) |
| 13:58.08 | jonwil | oh ok |
| 13:58.24 | jonwil | so really all we care about is the kernel and bootloader and drivers |
| 13:58.37 | WyrM | we care about userspace too. |
| 13:58.38 | jonwil | and the ezx-specific userland (i.e. the bits that have to talk to the baseband etc) |
| 13:58.40 | WyrM | but not much :) |
| 13:58.56 | jonwil | everything else comes from somewhere else who doesnt need to care about ezx |
| 13:59.13 | WyrM | after all our drivers get accepted by mainline linux (kernel work is done), I will do some more userspace and integration work. |
| 13:59.26 | WyrM | but not much, because im more interested on low-level stuff |
| 14:00.04 | jonwil | so the goal is to be able to take a stock kernel.org kernel, compile it and then get a 100% usable phone out of it (with a suitable rootfs that is)? |
| 14:00.06 | WyrM | jonwil: yes, this is the advantage of having a standard kernel. |
| 14:00.34 | WyrM | all userspace software that is standard will work for us. |
| 14:00.42 | jonwil | How much of the code being used in kernel is actually copied from moto oss code? |
| 14:00.46 | jonwil | Anything at all? |
| 14:00.56 | jonwil | I would guess very little is |
| 14:01.02 | WyrM | its based on moto 2.4 |
| 14:01.10 | WyrM | but not a copy of it. |
| 14:01.17 | WyrM | except for the mux_cli driver. |
| 14:01.19 | jonwil | ok |
| 14:01.29 | WyrM | which IS a copy of 2.4 code ported to 2.6 |
| 14:04.43 | WyrM | sabrod: yes, your MBM is at 0x0. |
| 14:04.49 | sabrod | And android ? Isn't it becoming strandard ? |
| 14:04.54 | sabrod | Ok... :/ |
| 14:05.08 | sabrod | thanks to take care... |
| 14:05.16 | sabrod | I have to adapt something? |
| 14:05.19 | WyrM | I wonder what your phone has at 0x20000. |
| 14:05.23 | WyrM | :) |
| 14:05.32 | sabrod | For patching blob? |
| 14:05.39 | WyrM | no |
| 14:05.44 | sabrod | Heh, me too... |
| 14:05.44 | jonwil | maybe Sabrod should dump 0x200000 then and see :) |
| 14:05.57 | sabrod | Yes ... :) |
| 14:06.13 | WyrM | sabrod: please don't do any changes to my patch-blob scripts. |
| 14:06.20 | sabrod | But you forgot: dump, send the bits to wyrm, and see :) |
| 14:06.29 | sabrod | Ohohoh, I'm not crazy ;) |
| 14:06.35 | WyrM | it will void your warranty (I guarantee that its brick proof). |
| 14:06.56 | sabrod | Hehe. |
| 14:07.03 | jonwil | Android is great but it seems to have a lack of vendor support |
| 14:07.06 | jonwil | other than the 2 phones from HTC |
| 14:07.22 | sabrod | (android) I saw that binder driver nw is on 2.6.29 ... |
| 14:07.24 | WyrM | jonwil: this will change with time.. :) |
| 14:07.26 | sabrod | now |
| 14:07.29 | jonwil | companies like moto and others SAY they are going to do android but none have actaully said anything about actual phones |
| 14:07.59 | jonwil | I suspect other manuf like moto are waiting for HTC and google to find all the bugs and problems via the G1 and G2 |
| 14:08.16 | WyrM | actual you mean future? or actual like you want to change the OS of a non-android phone? |
| 14:08.32 | jonwil | I mean actual as in future plans |
| 14:08.39 | jonwil | manuf have said "we support android" |
| 14:08.46 | jonwil | but have yet to actually show any hardware |
| 14:09.16 | jonwil | Even HTC doesnt put Android on its best (either in terms of h/w or in terms of looks) phones |
| 14:10.00 | jonwil | that MWC thing that happened a while back seemed to be all about Windows Mobile |
| 14:10.15 | jonwil | and about funky new music playing phones from the likes of LG, Samsung and Nokia |
| 14:10.23 | jonwil | almost NOTHING about android |
| 14:10.44 | WyrM | just wait. |
| 14:10.45 | jonwil | except the Magic/G2 which is just a slight redesign of the G1 without a hardware keyboard |
| 14:10.52 | WyrM | google is putting some big $ on android. |
| 14:11.07 | jonwil | yeah like I said I think Moto and others arent wanting to show off hardware until they have something polished |
| 14:11.15 | WyrM | it will be on phones from the big manufacturers. |
| 14:11.39 | jonwil | Its not like Android will just run out of the box on the moto hardware |
| 14:11.54 | WyrM | nothing runs out of the box :) |
| 14:11.58 | jonwil | true |
| 14:12.08 | jonwil | but the work to port Android to moto h/w will take time |
| 14:12.31 | WyrM | I get sick with people on MF telling "can't *we* Just port it to ming?" |
| 14:13.12 | jonwil | Would an Android port to ezx/magx be possible? |
| 14:13.23 | WyrM | the last one was asking us to port a X86 ubuntu image to ming. |
| 14:13.32 | WyrM | he even posted links to the binary image. |
| 14:13.32 | WyrM | lol |
| 14:13.35 | jonwil | Its been ported to openmoko and lots of winmobile HTCs IIRC |
| 14:13.42 | jonwil | android that is |
| 14:13.46 | WyrM | yes, and for ezx too. |
| 14:13.47 | WyrM | :) |
| 14:13.55 | WyrM | its definitely possible. |
| 14:13.57 | sabrod | hehe, I had some funny pms as well :) |
| 14:14.01 | jonwil | so android on magx is possible or not? |
| 14:14.09 | WyrM | search youtube for android on a780. |
| 14:14.13 | WyrM | sure it is. |
| 14:14.33 | jonwil | suspects it would be a fair bit of work though |
| 14:14.46 | WyrM | everything is possible if you work a lot on it, or if you spend a lot $. ;) |
| 14:15.24 | WyrM | 90% of the work is a "OpenMAGX" project.. |
| 14:15.24 | jonwil | only problem is that magx phones dont have h/w keyboard OR touchscreen |
| 14:15.32 | WyrM | android part is less than 10%. |
| 14:15.35 | jonwil | yeah I guess so Wyrm |
| 14:15.53 | jonwil | 90% of the work for openmagx would probobly be the GSM stack and daemons |
| 14:16.00 | jonwil | i.e. all the bits to talk to the phone network |
| 14:16.07 | WyrM | well.. it depends on your goals. |
| 14:16.23 | WyrM | If OpenMAGX goals are the same from OpenEZX, then certainly NO. |
| 14:16.35 | WyrM | most work will be mainline people comments... |
| 14:16.39 | WyrM | as it is here. |
| 14:16.53 | WyrM | make things work, and be clean enough to be accepted mainline. |
| 14:17.38 | jonwil | but before you even think of mainline you need (IMO) a 100% open software stack. Then you can worry about getting it mainline |
| 14:17.48 | WyrM | NO. |
| 14:17.53 | WyrM | this is the harder way :) |
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| 14:18.25 | WyrM | if you do some API wrong, and needs to change it after mainline people comments you are screwed. |
| 14:18.37 | WyrM | changing everything that you implemented that uses this api.. |
| 14:18.57 | WyrM | we tried this approach on OpenEZX in the past. |
| 14:19.12 | jonwil | well me, I dont care about mainline myself, I just care about being able to use the full potential of the hardware I own without the locks put there by moto and the carriers :P |
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| 14:27.48 | sabrod | It seems it's even possible to run the 2.6.25 kernel to boot an updated android rootfs. (has been broken, but solved now) |
| 14:29.32 | jonwil | is android 100% open source? |
| 14:29.43 | sabrod | (on G1, but as there have been ported to ezx, maybe it runs with the patches) |
| 14:30.30 | sabrod | I think so, but is not Gpl. |
| 14:31.14 | sabrod | And rootfs builds in 10 hours on an old laptop :) |
| 14:31.28 | sabrod | Maybe it's java... |
| 14:31.29 | sabrod | ? |
| 14:32.49 | WyrM | its open source. |
| 14:32.56 | WyrM | but only the kernel parts are gpl. |
| 14:33.09 | WyrM | userspace uses apache license. |
| 14:40.23 | WyrM | sabrod: have you tried the patch-blob script on your phones? |
| 14:46.07 | jonwil | is the android JVM open source? |
| 14:46.12 | jonwil | I would assume so |
| 14:56.12 | sabrod | WyrM: no, I'll try... |
| 15:17.33 | sabrod | is it a part of backuptools? |
| 15:17.51 | sabrod | It don't work "as is". |
| 16:21.35 | bartv | . |
| 16:30.11 | ao2 | hi bartv how do you want credit for the camera patch? Acked-By ? Signed-off-by ? |
| 16:31.54 | bartv | acked-by is ok |
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| 16:47.06 | ao2 | ok, thanks |
| 16:47.34 | ao2 | bartv, you'll have to read the final patch before I can add the line btw :) |
| 16:47.48 | ao2 | I'll CC you |
| 16:53.59 | bartv | will do that |
| 18:53.10 | yang | my chinese generic battery in A910 died |
| 18:53.31 | yang | haven't charged it for 3 months it refuses to chatge it says "wrong battery" |
| 18:54.16 | sabrod | Hi yang. |
| 18:54.38 | yang | Probably nobody needs an expired battery in testing purposes? |
| 18:54.41 | yang | hi sabrod |
| 18:54.53 | sabrod | You have to insist, it will probably rework... |
| 18:54.59 | yang | Well |
| 18:55.08 | yang | I have charged it only once, when i bought this phone |
| 18:55.25 | sabrod | Well, we can hope, I have frequently this message on the A910... |
| 18:55.28 | yang | I tried to take it out and leave the phone empty for half hour then back |
| 18:55.33 | yang | you have? |
| 18:55.53 | sabrod | Yes... Especially, the A910i... O_o |
| 18:55.58 | yang | i wonder how long does the "memory effect" stay? |
| 18:56.29 | yang | with so many chargers, i don't even know if i got the right one, could you check the voltage on yours and tell me? |
| 18:56.34 | sabrod | I think it's more a software prob... |
| 18:56.42 | yang | but i assume it should also charge from PC (usb) |
| 18:57.02 | yang | right now i am trying with the charger |
| 18:57.33 | sabrod | Ah, well... I use to charge on a desktop stuff, too, maybe I damage my batts sometimes with this powerfull and very cheap hardware :) |
| 18:57.56 | yang | but this is funny...I am getting italian error on a U.K. phone |
| 18:58.04 | yang | becouse i had italian sim inside for longer time |
| 18:58.24 | sabrod | Hehe :) |
| 18:58.31 | yang | ao2: batteria non valida, are you familiar with this kind of error? |
| 18:58.43 | sabrod | ;) |
| 18:58.55 | yang | this battery is a crap chinese generic replacement |
| 18:59.02 | yang | I should have an original one |
| 18:59.24 | sabrod | Well, they will last _probably_ longer.... |
| 18:59.38 | sabrod | don't know? |
| 18:59.45 | yang | sabrod: how do you fix this error then |
| 19:00.31 | sabrod | Don't know, I just switch batteries, and usually, it fixes itself :) |
| 19:01.00 | sabrod | I can't tell you more, except, if you flashed it with an R58 firmware... |
| 19:01.13 | sabrod | different ma, you need to flash correct datas then.. |
| 19:01.21 | sabrod | differents map. |
| 19:08.22 | yang | maybe |
| 19:08.27 | sabrod | I've heard mtd 10, 12, 13 (from orange or Bt, I guess) sometimes solved the R58 flashed A910 |
| 19:08.30 | yang | to stick another sim inside |
| 19:08.43 | yang | mine is BT A910 |
| 19:08.51 | sabrod | Humm, well, so you flashed it? |
| 19:08.57 | yang | no i havent |
| 19:09.19 | sabrod | So if it's bt I guess flashing these mtd will not help. |
| 19:10.15 | sabrod | My A910 and a910i used to accept nonames batteries, and even sometimes had probs with the normal moto ones... |
| 19:10.55 | sabrod | Arff... I can't tell the cause, but it doesn't look like a battery problem, isn't it? |
| 19:13.03 | yang | sabrod: no, why the heck does it have info in italian language if its a U.K phone - memory effect? |
| 19:13.10 | yang | i removed italian sim |
| 19:13.28 | sabrod | Heh, you have another sim into it now? |
| 19:13.36 | yang | no, let me try to switch |
| 19:15.33 | sabrod | What is that memory effect? |
| 19:16.12 | sabrod | On batteries, it said that they last fewer time if you charge them too much, is it this? |
| 19:16.31 | sabrod | Or so, I don't remember, I just hate batteries. :P |
| 19:19.47 | yang | modalita aereo - batteria non valida (invalid battery) |
| 19:20.18 | yang | still italian error even with sim replaced |
| 19:20.51 | sabrod | But it's interesting, it seems batteries have to be charged incrementally, depending on their temperature,from a very little intensity to the maximum amperage that they produce or maybe a little more, then decrease again the power, to just let them hold and fill a little more... |
| 19:21.11 | sabrod | Ah... so maybe the BP don't read the sim card... |
| 19:21.17 | yang | i think mine is dead |
| 19:21.42 | sabrod | A910 is dead ? Oh, I hope not. |
| 19:22.03 | sabrod | You have a spare batt? |
| 19:22.13 | yang | the battery |
| 19:22.17 | yang | no i dont |
| 19:23.13 | sabrod | You should, maybe it need to see different batts :) |
| 19:23.53 | yang | ok, gonna look for replacement on monday |
| 19:25.32 | sabrod | Well, I do this, and it rework, but for the language, you are probably right, it remembered the last language, maybe after some reboots... ? |
| 19:26.19 | sabrod | Or it need a "clean" battery to change it's language, to fully boot... |
| 19:27.58 | yang | but you solve by switching the bateries |
| 19:29.09 | sabrod | Yes, with another battery it rework, and btw, openezx don't have this problem, to work, but I never charged the battery with an openezx kernel :) |
| 19:29.49 | yang | ok thanks for info, going to try to get it reset with the new batt. |
| 19:30.45 | sabrod | I would go for a motorola batt... |
| 19:31.08 | sabrod | Maybe it is this? |
| 19:31.54 | sabrod | To be sure, but ok, I will stop telling you guys crappy advises, I can tell you more :) |
| 19:38.11 | yang | sabrod: you know |
| 19:38.16 | yang | i only charged the phone once |
| 19:38.22 | yang | and it was allready pre-charged |
| 19:39.58 | yang | sabrod: could you check the voltage on your charger? |
| 19:40.10 | sabrod | 5v... |
| 19:40.59 | sabrod | But they are regulated, if you want to manually charge you should cut an usb cable, and maybe lower the voltage as well. |
| 19:41.27 | sabrod | Thereis some hardware on a desktop charger. |
| 19:41.47 | sabrod | You mean the main adaptor? it's 5v |
| 19:42.29 | yang | 5.2 V - 500 mah |
| 19:45.48 | sabrod | Yes, it's near to the moto charger: 5v, 550ma here |
| 19:56.26 | yang | thanks for advices sabrod gonna watch some movie starts shortly |
| 19:56.59 | sabrod | ok, bye! |
| 19:57.10 | yang | see you ! |
| 19:57.11 | sabrod | Have a nice movie! |
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