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| 01:48.41 | WyrM | hi. |
| 01:48.46 | WyrM | any news? :) |
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| 02:44.39 | stefan___a | the problem i had with the one german phone is still there, but it seems to be connected to this phone, since other phones work |
| 02:44.55 | stefan___a | (i had this mmc root fs mounting problem) |
| 02:54.51 | WyrM | other european phones work? |
| 02:55.08 | WyrM | then you probably have a different HW version. |
| 02:55.45 | WyrM | you can try to power up other PCAP voltage regulators, and see if this helps. |
| 02:56.14 | WyrM | or you can dump the PCAP registers on the motorola 2.4 kernel, and see which voltage regulators are on. |
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| 07:58.07 | Hopscotch | guten morgen |
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| 09:09.01 | yang | hello sabrod |
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| 09:10.37 | yang | sabrod: do you need remote access for building FSO ? |
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| 09:46.47 | yang | hi ao2 |
| 09:49.23 | florian | good morning |
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| 10:08.23 | yang | ao2: I am wondering about ROKR E6 |
| 10:09.37 | yang | Its in the stage of having a 80% GSM support made |
| 10:09.59 | yang | so it might work anytime soon now ? Do you have this phone ? |
| 10:20.10 | ao2 | hi yang, no I don't have an E6, but GSM support should be like A780, so when A780 will be actually usable E6 will be as well. The "only" things missing are proper audio setup and integration with userspace. |
| 10:20.31 | ao2 | and good morning everybody |
| 10:25.16 | yang | ok, nice |
| 10:25.31 | yang | Actually I purchased an E6 |
| 10:29.59 | yang | lunch time |
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| 10:39.07 | ao2 | yang, E6 is very nice |
| 11:11.45 | yang | it is compared to what my A780 looks like |
| 11:12.23 | yang | the previous owner used it for 3 years, then sold it on ebay to me |
| 11:16.20 | yang | ao2: how did the latest console build work for you ? |
| 11:17.36 | ao2 | ah let me check... |
| 11:18.51 | ao2 | vala-native_0.5.7.bb failed |
| 11:19.10 | ao2 | let's report this to OE |
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| 11:38.23 | gmzhuo | Hi WyrM |
| 11:40.11 | yang | hi gmzhuo |
| 11:40.25 | yang | ao2: Is the new GUI going to be OM or which one ? |
| 11:40.38 | ao2 | hi gmzhuo |
| 11:40.42 | gmzhuo | Hi yang,ao2 |
| 11:40.47 | ao2 | yang, gmzhuo has an E6 |
| 11:42.23 | yang | gmzhuo: which GUI do you have on it ? |
| 11:44.16 | gmzhuo | stefan___a,would you like to send your usb host patch to mailing list?I want to see if this can be applied on gen2 |
| 11:44.56 | gmzhuo | yang,On E6 the gui is still based on qt |
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| 11:46.48 | gmzhuo | Hi stefan_schmidt |
| 11:47.01 | stefan_schmidt | hi gmzhuo |
| 11:48.09 | gmzhuo | How can I access on the svn? |
| 11:49.37 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: checkout via https with your login/passwd |
| 11:52.04 | gmzhuo | you mean the passwd in home/gmzhuo on people.openezx.org? |
| 11:53.22 | stefan_schmidt | no, your svn password |
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| 11:56.50 | gmzhuo | username gmzhuo, and passwd in svn-passwd? |
| 11:56.57 | gDD | i try to Dual Boot for ROKR E6, when flashcp, it says don't fit, i checked gen-blob is 64kB and mtd1 only 32kB |
| 11:57.04 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: only password |
| 11:57.51 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: ping me when you have put your password there and I can make sure svn knows about it |
| 11:59.54 | gmzhuo | I have had password in svn-passwd for a long time |
| 12:01.54 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: hmm, then something else might be wrong. Give me a moment before I can check it |
| 12:04.01 | gDD | so i try Getting_Started instead, but failure after get into flash mode, i hold vol+ and on linux do ./boot_usb gen-blob 0 then it says "Uploading params: FAILED: params upload failed" |
| 12:05.27 | gDD | so i can't see "USB Ready", but i tried before i changed to new Firmware, i think my E6 firmware make something wrong :) |
| 12:05.27 | gmzhuo | gDD,dose you use the newest boot_usb? |
| 12:06.01 | gDD | yeah, i use http://people.openezx.org/gmzhuo/boot_usb |
| 12:07.22 | gDD | it's wired, maybe tomorrow everything will be OK |
| 12:07.46 | gmzhuo | gDD,don't know whats wrong,here on my e6 is ok |
| 12:08.19 | gDD | gmzhuo: you mean you can dual boot without computer's help? |
| 12:08.29 | gmzhuo | Yes |
| 12:09.18 | gDD | gmzhuo: but how did you do "flashcp -v gen-blob /dev/mtd1" |
| 12:10.15 | gDD | as i said mtd1 have only 32kB space left |
| 12:11.30 | gmzhuo | gDD,I didn't use flashcp |
| 12:12.03 | gmzhuo | would you like to test it on windows if you installed vs2005? |
| 12:12.05 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: Can you test svn again |
| 12:12.18 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: Maybe I found the problem |
| 12:12.23 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03gmzhuo * r2427 10/trunk/src/host/phonetools/test.c: just test |
| 12:12.27 | gmzhuo | done |
| 12:12.29 | stefan_schmidt | :) |
| 12:12.46 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03gmzhuo * r2428 10/trunk/src/host/phonetools/test.c: |
| 12:12.58 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: You have not been in the httpasswd file, no idea what was going wrong there. Fixed by hand now |
| 12:13.03 | stefan_schmidt | have fun |
| 12:13.27 | gDD | gmzhuo: so what do you use? this is a happy news, at least Dual Boot on E6 is possible. |
| 12:15.43 | gmzhuo | I ever add mtd support on 2.6.23 and flashed one gen-blob,and now I can use phonetools to upload gen-blob and run's it |
| 12:16.07 | gmzhuo | I think you can use boot-usb or phonetools load gen-blob and run it too |
| 12:16.31 | gmzhuo | phonetools is changed from boot-usb and have a qt gui interface |
| 12:16.47 | gmzhuo | It works on linux and windows |
| 12:17.38 | gDD | gmzhuo: yeah, i saw it in your folder, i will try out, thanks! |
| 12:21.42 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03gmzhuo * r2429 10/trunk/src/host/phonetools/phonetools.cpp: protect flash from 0x0~0xa0000 |
| 12:22.19 | CIA-15 | OpenEZX: 03gmzhuo * r2430 10/trunk/src/host/phonetools/UsbPhone.cpp: fix max flash block |
| 12:26.27 | gmzhuo | gDD,you mean on people.openezx.org?I don't know if it is the right version |
| 12:27.34 | gDD | gmzhuo: i mean http://people.openezx.org/gmzhuo/ |
| 12:29.34 | gDD | i think it's not easy to build up and use, i am afraid it will not working because usb_boot is not working too, so i will now flashing to another firmware and try usb_boot again before use phonetool |
| 12:31.27 | gDD | my firmware is R535H10_G_11.87.22P, the lasted official firmware, lastest is not best :(å§ let me try and report. |
| 12:32.02 | gmzhuo | It's easy to use,but not easy to build up,because you need vs2005,compile qt-4.4.3,libusb |
| 12:32.58 | gmzhuo | You mean maybe some diffrent of blob? |
| 12:33.36 | gDD | gmzhuo: i mean maybe Motorola blocked gen-blob in their lastest firmware. |
| 12:35.27 | gmzhuo | can you use boot-usb load openezx's kerne? |
| 12:36.34 | gDD | gmzhuo: i can't because when i run ./boot_usb gen-blob 0 with hold vol+ the phone's red screen is not changed, normally it should show "USB Ready" |
| 12:38.59 | gDD | when i am using another firmware, i followed openezx wiki and get into kernel booting, but i changed firmware later and today i try again i got this problem. |
| 12:39.17 | gmzhuo | where is the gen-blob from? |
| 12:39.29 | gmzhuo | You compiled it your self? |
| 12:39.41 | gDD | http://people.openezx.org/wyrm/gen-blob |
| 12:40.19 | gmzhuo | Try compiled it your self? |
| 12:40.55 | gmzhuo | Have you test gen-blob with another firmware? |
| 12:41.46 | gDD | gmzhuo: yes i tried few week ago with another firmware |
| 12:42.21 | gmzhuo | then maybe it's realy because of the firmware |
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| 12:43.10 | gDD | gmzhuo: is your boot_use newest, maybe newset have some update |
| 12:43.29 | gDD | gmzhuo: i mean that one in http://people.openezx.org/gmzhuo/ |
| 12:44.26 | gmzhuo | yes, boot-use have so many update |
| 12:45.20 | gDD | it's really smple, only one .c file, but seems not so easy to compile, it need configured kernel source code... |
| 12:46.47 | gDD | but few week ago i just using this usb_boot, so it should working. |
| 12:47.20 | gmzhuo | I have upload the newst boot_usb,will you try it? |
| 12:47.35 | gDD | gmzhuo: yes |
| 12:48.54 | gmzhuo | and gen-blob updated too |
| 12:49.39 | gDD | gmzhuo: "USB Ready" !!! GREAT |
| 12:49.53 | gmzhuo | then it's because of the boot-usb? |
| 12:50.00 | gDD | gmzhuo: yes |
| 12:50.12 | gmzhuo | have fun:) |
| 12:50.49 | gDD | let's get into Openmoko World! :xD |
| 12:52.08 | gmzhuo | gDD,you got openmoko run's on e6? |
| 12:52.49 | gDD | gmzhuo: i am try, because some got it work on A1200 |
| 12:55.04 | gDD | as before, i got Kernel Panic. long way to modding and run |
| 12:56.01 | gmzhuo | If you boot-usb kernel from flash mode ,the kernnel will panic because of udc |
| 13:05.52 | gDD | not really, i can see Angstrom logo, so it mean at least working |
| 13:05.58 | gDD | from this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTYqlpSVEfY |
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| 13:07.55 | gDD | and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DmSrmNqrU4 , it really run into Qtopia and i think he's using gen-blob too. |
| 13:10.29 | gmzhuo | I can 'run into' qtopia too,but can't accept ts evnent |
| 13:12.20 | gmzhuo | gDD,are you famliar with qtopia? |
| 13:13.52 | gDD | gmzhuo: no, i only have a test with Qtopia lastest firmware, it's awesome and i think next release it will have less bug and be usable |
| 13:14.19 | gDD | just flashing Qtopai like a normal firmware |
| 13:15.18 | gDD | if Qtopai-ezx add a browser i think i can use it as my main system. |
| 13:16.17 | gmzhuo | witch qtopia-ezx?from google? |
| 13:16.33 | stefan_schmidt | gDD: There will be no other Qt Extended release: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended |
| 13:17.14 | gDD | gmzhuo: http://ezxdev.org/qtopia/firmwares/ |
| 13:17.57 | gDD | gmzhuo: flashing newset A1200 f/w and then continue flashing e6 one for normal using, or it will not boot |
| 13:18.30 | gmzhuo | kernel is 2.4? |
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| 13:19.34 | gDD | stefan_schmidt: but developers can also dev it without official support |
| 13:20.04 | gDD | gmzhuo: i don't know, use it as a new E6 firmware |
| 13:20.14 | stefan_schmidt | gDD: Sure, as long as they write all code on their own. Nokia will put no more work into it |
| 13:21.12 | gmzhuo | why nokia will buy qt |
| 13:21.21 | mickeyl | ah finally |
| 13:21.25 | mickeyl | they buried it officially |
| 13:21.27 | mickeyl | relived |
| 13:21.31 | mickeyl | relieved, even |
| 13:21.35 | mickeyl | or is that reliefed? |
| 13:21.41 | mickeyl | ~spell reliefed |
| 13:21.51 | mickeyl | ~botsnack |
| 13:21.51 | purl | :), mickeyl |
| 13:22.09 | gmzhuo | ~help |
| 13:22.12 | mickeyl | so now please lets stop working on Qtopia |
| 13:22.17 | mickeyl | and do something useful |
| 13:22.21 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: lol |
| 13:22.35 | gmzhuo | then what's is useful? |
| 13:22.38 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: You're going to repeat you two years old statement? |
| 13:22.49 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: yes, i feel it's time |
| 13:22.54 | stefan_schmidt | feels a blog post comming |
| 13:22.57 | mickeyl | gmzhuo: work on a smartphone userland |
| 13:23.04 | mickeyl | based on fso middleware |
| 13:23.07 | mickeyl | joining SHR |
| 13:23.11 | mickeyl | getting the kernel finished |
| 13:23.13 | mickeyl | etc. |
| 13:23.14 | gDD | make angstrom usable for ezx |
| 13:24.12 | gmzhuo | kernel is nearly,except the most important pm |
| 13:24.52 | gmzhuo | how about gui state now? |
| 13:24.55 | stefan_schmidt | ah well, you can also have a look into the muxer driver and try to make it sane. Will keep you busy for some months. ;) |
| 13:25.04 | mickeyl | guiwise there's two important developments |
| 13:25.09 | mickeyl | SHR |
| 13:25.11 | mickeyl | and Paroli |
| 13:25.19 | mickeyl | both basing on EFL |
| 13:25.24 | mickeyl | and using the FSO middleware |
| 13:25.31 | mickeyl | so I actually see a chance of getting a userland soon |
| 13:25.42 | mickeyl | if we get our act together and make the kernel userready |
| 13:25.45 | gmzhuo | stefan_schmidt,muxer driver is work on e6 |
| 13:25.45 | mickeyl | not just developerready |
| 13:25.47 | mickeyl | you know |
| 13:26.26 | stefan_schmidt | gmzhuo: I know. I'm talking about making it a _sane_ driver not only the moto one for 2.4 thrown into 2.6 and make work. |
| 13:27.20 | mickeyl | still ponders whether we can have direct MUX access |
| 13:28.13 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: You really like pain nowadays? |
| 13:28.30 | gmzhuo | Mickeyl,we can have direct mux access if we "open mux in kernel" |
| 13:28.57 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 13:29.02 | mickeyl | the thing is |
| 13:29.13 | mickeyl | i don't like the arbitrary boundaries given by the mux channels |
| 13:29.17 | mickeyl | some commands work here |
| 13:29.18 | mickeyl | some there |
| 13:29.20 | mickeyl | some not there |
| 13:29.31 | mickeyl | if there's a chance we get homogenous channels, it would be worth it IMO |
| 13:29.31 | stefan_schmidt | I know, but it really opens a can of worms |
| 13:29.40 | mickeyl | true, it's probably not worth it |
| 13:29.47 | mickeyl | considering the amount of work |
| 13:29.51 | mickeyl | still GPRS is broken |
| 13:30.00 | mickeyl | and someone needs to look at the muxercode for that |
| 13:30.55 | stefan_schmidt | hides behind university exams |
| 13:31.12 | mickeyl | heh |
| 13:31.37 | gmzhuo | mickeyl,how about the gprs broken?kernel panic or gprs disconnect? |
| 13:31.49 | mickeyl | nothing |
| 13:31.55 | mickeyl | the mux node stays silent |
| 13:32.01 | mickeyl | no bits |
| 13:32.13 | mickeyl | i would at least expect some hdlc frames coming out |
| 13:32.25 | mickeyl | but after dialling the channel is dead |
| 13:32.34 | gmzhuo | which phone? |
| 13:32.37 | mickeyl | a780 |
| 13:32.41 | mickeyl | never tested on 2nd gen |
| 13:33.00 | gmzhuo | dose the command channel respons right? |
| 13:33.19 | mickeyl | no |
| 13:33.23 | mickeyl | it's stuck as well after issuing the command |
| 13:33.27 | mickeyl | not even the CONNECT ack |
| 13:34.39 | gmzhuo | and voice call is right? |
| 13:35.33 | mickeyl | yes |
| 13:39.11 | gmzhuo | Mickey,will you release one gui rootfs to help kernel debug,like as gprs connect |
| 13:39.31 | mickeyl | not a GUI, but the middleware |
| 13:39.35 | mickeyl | with a nice commandline |
| 13:39.37 | mickeyl | so you can debug |
| 13:39.49 | mickeyl | unfortunately my colleagues have broken the UI |
| 13:39.52 | mickeyl | that once worked nice on QVGA |
| 13:40.12 | mickeyl | so i don't see us anywhere near a release of FSO w/ UI |
| 13:40.17 | mickeyl | but the console image will work fine |
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| 13:52.05 | gmzhuo | Hi,dose make fso is wget http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile |
| 13:52.16 | gmzhuo | and make fso-a780-testing-image? |
| 13:56.01 | gDD | wow! i see Angstrom booting and now loading Qtopia! |
| 13:56.56 | gDD | kernel panic because i set mmca2 as fat, i forgot it should be ext2 |
| 13:58.01 | gDD | but it not boot Openmoko, after some dmesg then the screen be interesting and finally be WHITE. |
| 14:01.47 | mickeyl | gmzhuo: worth a try, I#m not using the Makefile so I'm not sure -- I'm using OE directly |
| 14:02.16 | gmzhuo | I got so many error with OE directly |
| 14:02.38 | mickeyl | the makefile won't help |
| 14:02.40 | mickeyl | it's just a wrapper |
| 14:02.47 | mickeyl | we better fix the OE issues |
| 14:02.48 | gmzhuo | error comes again |
| 14:05.56 | gDD | ERROR is the worst word while compiling source code! |
| 14:06.21 | gmzhuo | needs help2man->build help2man->perl module Locale::gettext required |
| 14:06.30 | gmzhuo | how to deal this |
| 14:06.31 | gmzhuo | ? |
| 14:06.53 | mickeyl | uh, a perl error |
| 14:06.58 | mickeyl | perl-native built? |
| 14:07.19 | mickeyl | best ask in #oe or open a bug report |
| 14:07.25 | mickeyl | stays away from perl as far as he can |
| 14:07.46 | gDD | gmzhuo: cygwin or true linux? |
| 14:07.47 | gmzhuo | :( |
| 14:07.52 | gmzhuo | trun linux |
| 14:08.05 | gmzhuo | fc10 |
| 14:08.27 | gmzhuo | So I'm so fear to build rootfs |
| 14:08.57 | gDD | maybe liblocale-gettext-perl, i mean for Debian |
| 14:08.58 | mickeyl | well, question is do you really need to build one |
| 14:09.06 | mickeyl | you can as well just use a precompiled one |
| 14:09.29 | gmzhuo | so many required and failed to build the required,like as not return stack |
| 14:09.43 | gmzhuo | where can I get precompiled one? |
| 14:09.55 | mickeyl | where you got the Makefile from :) |
| 14:10.06 | gmzhuo | And I want to build one my self too |
| 14:10.19 | mickeyl | then we need to fix your OE problems |
| 14:10.24 | mickeyl | please open bug reports |
| 14:10.24 | gmzhuo | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile |
| 14:10.34 | mickeyl | right |
| 14:10.37 | mickeyl | there are images as well |
| 14:12.04 | gmzhuo | where and how to open bug reports? |
| 14:12.24 | mickeyl | bugs.openembedded.net |
| 14:12.33 | mickeyl | as for how... well, just like you would operate any bug tracker |
| 14:13.23 | gDD | maybe perl depends should not be bug |
| 14:13.37 | gmzhuo | gDD,I think so |
| 14:14.08 | gmzhuo | But how to deal this perl depends |
| 14:14.29 | gDD | get perl-Locale-gettext |
| 14:14.45 | gDD | i think Fedora repo have this |
| 14:17.10 | gmzhuo | what's your mean of get perl-locale-gettext? |
| 14:17.50 | gDD | gmzhuo: i think install perl-locale-gettext can solve your problem |
| 14:20.20 | gDD | something like "yum dfsfajdassa perl-Locale-gettext" :D |
| 14:23.34 | gDD | too late, tomorrow is éªæ¶çé«ä¸ï¼Openmoko tomorrow. |
| 14:47.03 | gmzhuo | mickeyl |
| 14:47.08 | gmzhuo | ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'fso-image' |
| 14:47.57 | mickeyl | images have been renamed |
| 14:48.00 | mickeyl | check the images directory |
| 14:49.17 | gmzhuo | I use make fso-a780-testing-image |
| 14:49.35 | gmzhuo | where should I find fso-image and correct it? |
| 14:56.16 | gmzhuo | oops, |
| 14:58.18 | gmzhuo | where is the images directory? |
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| 15:15.50 | mickeyl | in the oe tree |
| 15:15.53 | mickeyl | packages/images |
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| 15:19.31 | gmzhuo | yes,I can find fso-image-light |
| 15:19.43 | gmzhuo | but where should I correct |
| 15:21.13 | gmzhuo | it genrete fso-testing/conf/auto.conf |
| 15:21.25 | gmzhuo | incmod IMAGES="fso-image" |
| 15:21.40 | gmzhuo | but I don't know where it generate |
| 15:22.04 | gmzhuo | I try to change Makefile,but in auto.conf it still is fso-image |
| 15:24.52 | gmzhuo | bed time,bye |
| 15:25.07 | mickeyl | gnight |
| 15:25.12 | mickeyl | that's why i prefer working with OE directly |
| 15:25.19 | mickeyl | since the Makefile wrapper just hides things |
| 15:25.26 | mickeyl | and makes you not understand what you are doing |
| 15:26.02 | gmzhuo | but I still don't know how to build it without Makefile |
| 15:26.10 | mickeyl | try following the gettingstarted |
| 15:26.14 | mickeyl | oe's wiki page |
| 15:26.22 | mickeyl | it makes you actually learn how to operator OE |
| 15:26.26 | mickeyl | not just following cooking recipes |
| 15:26.28 | mickeyl | :) |
| 15:27.46 | gmzhuo | infact,oe is wraper too :) |
| 15:28.56 | mickeyl | indeed |
| 15:29.01 | mickeyl | and a wrapper on a wrapper |
| 15:29.04 | mickeyl | is sometimes too much |
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| 15:31.44 | gmzhuo | like one thine depend on another thing |
| 15:31.59 | ao2 | gmzhuo, I just finished builing a fso-console image |
| 15:32.15 | ao2 | justo some minutes to upload it to people.openezx.org |
| 15:34.08 | gmzhuo | I copied fso-image-light.bb to fso-image.bb |
| 15:34.10 | mickeyl | that's the spirit |
| 15:34.16 | mickeyl | while we are arguing |
| 15:34.21 | mickeyl | you just get it done ;) |
| 15:35.06 | gmzhuo | so it find out the "PROVIDES" |
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| 15:48.38 | ao2 | gmzhuo, http://people.openezx.org/ao2/images/ get it while it's hot :) |
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| 16:38.34 | stefan___a | anybody already got pand working ? |
| 16:38.49 | stefan___a | i have pand setting up bnep0 device |
| 16:39.02 | stefan___a | but the device doesnt go into running mode |
| 16:39.14 | stefan___a | bluetooth seems to be working |
| 16:39.25 | stefan___a | at least the connection is made |
| 16:39.40 | stefan___a | and then the bnep0 device just stays down |
| 16:39.49 | stefan___a | ifconfig bnep0 up |
| 16:39.49 | stefan___a | ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address |
| 17:24.25 | WyrM | hi all. |
| 17:24.41 | WyrM | stefan___a: I never used BNEP on ezx. |
| 17:24.53 | WyrM | stefan___a: gmzhuo uses BNEP on his E6. |
| 17:31.17 | ao2 | hi WyrM, I got a new microSD card to use on A910. The mmc_spi sharing trick is always the same, isn't it? |
| 17:32.39 | WyrM | ao2: yes. |
| 17:34.15 | WyrM | ao2: http://pastebin.com/m26196e3a |
| 17:34.38 | WyrM | and a rootdelay of ~5 seconds |
| 17:35.14 | WyrM | the default (1 second) is not enough to probe the card with spi |
| 17:37.07 | ao2 | ok |
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| 19:27.27 | ao2 | WyrM, it looks like I get the mmc I/O errors only when launching the kernel from gen-blob (in USB mode, and sent via boot_usb of course), launching kernel from MBM doesn't gives problems a part some "mmcblk0: retrying using single block read" messages, I'll do some further tests with the older cards tomorrow, have to go now |
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| 22:24.27 | stefan___a | alkdjf |
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| 23:14.46 | stefan___a | yes |
| 23:14.49 | stefan___a | wyrm |
| 23:14.56 | stefan___a | hcitool scan sees the devices |
| 23:15.05 | stefan___a | also a connection is established |
| 23:15.19 | stefan___a | and it tries to make a bnep0 device |
| 23:15.31 | stefan___a | but then the ifconfig up doesnt work |
| 23:15.51 | stefan___a | this all is on our 2.6 kernel with openembedded rootfs |
| 23:16.26 | stefan___a | i would find bluetooth a great fallback solution if the usb wlan doesn't work |
| 23:16.48 | stefan___a | because the usb hub needs 5 volt and the wifi consumes a lot of energy |
| 23:17.18 | stefan___a | at least pand works between two laptops i have here |
| 23:17.21 | stefan___a | hi |
| 23:17.53 | stefan___a | sabrod: theres some good phones coming up soon |
| 23:18.21 | sabrod | Hey... Already passed the chinese order? |
| 23:18.34 | stefan___a | yes mainboards are in shanghai |
| 23:18.35 | sabrod | sent! |
| 23:18.57 | stefan___a | also theres some goode ones coming up in ebay.de |
| 23:19.13 | stefan___a | one is sold as a defect |
| 23:19.34 | stefan___a | but it seems to only be the battery |
| 23:19.42 | stefan___a | it will make a good price |
| 23:19.44 | sabrod | Well, I meant you already bought some chinese a780? If you can count on me... |
| 23:20.05 | stefan___a | we have 3 chinese ones |
| 23:20.13 | sabrod | Ah, defect battery :) |
| 23:20.14 | stefan___a | one is in hannover with a friend |
| 23:20.26 | sabrod | good luck for repairing! :) |
| 23:20.58 | stefan___a | the same kernel and rootfs work on the german and on the chinese one |
| 23:21.06 | stefan___a | the chinese is without gps |
| 23:21.31 | sabrod | well, I'm in, if you can sell me one for a good price... Or for your next order :) |
| 23:21.47 | stefan___a | yes i am thinking of that |
| 23:21.50 | sabrod | I lost your email, btw :( |
| 23:21.54 | stefan___a | i will contact you |
| 23:22.08 | sabrod | K, Thanks you! |
| 23:22.38 | stefan___a | maybe you can send an email, then i will remember best |
| 23:23.04 | sabrod | fine. |
| 23:23.16 | stefan___a | i have one german one that has this problem with the mmc reader |
| 23:23.25 | stefan___a | it doesnt mount the rootfs |
| 23:23.32 | stefan___a | (has errors while reading) |
| 23:23.43 | stefan___a | i tried with maybe 10 mmc cards |
| 23:24.06 | sabrod | Heh, maybe a stange hardware revision ... |
| 23:24.10 | stefan___a | funny thing, the kernel boots |
| 23:24.28 | stefan___a | but the partition 2 is not readable |
| 23:24.42 | stefan___a | however the mmc worked in the motorola os before. |
| 23:25.01 | stefan___a | dont worry i wont sell you THAT one ;) |
| 23:25.07 | sabrod | And what if you boot usb the kernel and have only one partition on the sd ? :) |
| 23:25.35 | stefan___a | i have not tried that, i would need to recompile the kernel , right now thats priority b |
| 23:25.38 | stefan___a | :) |
| 23:26.06 | stefan___a | with gen_blob the params command line doesnt work right |
| 23:26.11 | sabrod | You can overide commandline parameters with bootusb !! |
| 23:26.11 | stefan___a | or im too stupid |
| 23:26.16 | stefan___a | yes |
| 23:26.22 | stefan___a | thats what i was thinking |
| 23:26.35 | stefan___a | am i right i just write the whole cmdline |
| 23:26.39 | stefan___a | from .config |
| 23:26.43 | stefan___a | to the params string ? |
| 23:26.50 | stefan___a | then it should get parsed |
| 23:27.07 | stefan___a | because it seems it doesnt add to the commandline , but replace it completely |
| 23:27.27 | stefan___a | i didnt read the source |
| 23:27.27 | stefan___a | ... |
| 23:27.29 | sabrod | Yes, but that cannot work if you only have one partition on Sd, because the default rootfs config is on mmcblk0p1 (second part) |
| 23:27.47 | stefan___a | ? |
| 23:27.52 | stefan___a | i dont understand |
| 23:28.08 | stefan___a | cant i put the whole rootfs and boot into partition 1 ? |
| 23:28.18 | stefan___a | ah no ,it has to be msdos fs |
| 23:28.26 | stefan___a | thats the reason right ? |
| 23:28.35 | sabrod | You can use the whole config string you find in ezx-defconfig. , quoted on bootusb command |
| 23:29.03 | stefan___a | ok ill check it out soon |
| 23:29.15 | sabrod | I doesn't has to be fat, only thing is you'll need to put genblob in ram, with "bootusb genblob 0" |
| 23:29.31 | sabrod | then bootusb zimage "commandline params" |
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| 23:29.39 | stefan___a | ok |
| 23:29.49 | stefan___a | i need tocheck that out |
| 23:30.10 | sabrod | Don't forget to swith to usb mode, with the latest bootusb, use " bootusb setflag usb" |
| 23:30.45 | stefan___a | ok thats cool |
| 23:30.45 | sabrod | (this way, when you'll launch genblob, you'll not have to use the VOL+ key to go to the "usb ready mode" |
| 23:30.51 | stefan___a | yes |
| 23:31.09 | stefan___a | but i can do all crazy monkey grabs on the phone now with eyes closed |
| 23:31.19 | sabrod | ;) |
| 23:31.24 | stefan___a | also i want to try and solder the start button closed |
| 23:31.42 | stefan___a | i think then when inserting the battery the phone boots normally |
| 23:32.00 | stefan___a | because if we dont hold the start key , the phone will turn off soon |
| 23:32.09 | sabrod | Oh... you have to look at the code first... |
| 23:32.16 | stefan___a | code4 ? |
| 23:32.47 | stefan___a | the problem right now we dont have an automatic possibility on turning on the phone |
| 23:32.56 | sabrod | it's a special key, I'm afraid, it will maybe power off, if it's still hold at the init... |
| 23:33.20 | sabrod | Ah, no, I just don't know :) |
| 23:33.27 | stefan___a | no i tried it the phone boots normally even if the key is held all the time |
| 23:33.39 | stefan___a | ill try and solder a bridge somehow |
| 23:34.20 | sabrod | Ok. (on gen2 devices, it don't send a normal keycode , it's directly connected to pcap) |
| 23:34.36 | stefan___a | we have one that we want to put into an aluminum box with only the touchscreen exposed and 2 dlink wifis inside and 12V plug outside |
| 23:34.49 | sabrod | Wow! |
| 23:35.11 | stefan___a | we have the 12 Volt to 5 volt thing running |
| 23:35.26 | stefan___a | i have one lying around here with a 3 cell lipo battery |
| 23:35.41 | stefan___a | we can power servos and stuff with this |
| 23:35.57 | stefan___a | and charge the phone at the same time !!! |
| 23:36.11 | stefan___a | the longest one was now running about 4 days |
| 23:36.30 | stefan___a | has wyrm got our usb host code working ? |
| 23:37.07 | stefan___a | cool thing is, i have an atmel usb here that runs on 3.3 volt to 5 volt |
| 23:37.08 | sabrod | Yes, quite good!!! you are a quite interesting benchmark lab for the ezx devices !! |
| 23:37.24 | stefan___a | it works without a hub and without external power supply |
| 23:37.46 | sabrod | atmel what? |
| 23:38.10 | stefan___a | atmel microcontroller, for switching ios on stuff and servos etc |
| 23:38.18 | sabrod | servo motors dirver? |
| 23:38.22 | stefan___a | yes |
| 23:38.23 | sabrod | Ok.. |
| 23:38.40 | stefan___a | it works on the phone without any problems |
| 23:38.47 | stefan___a | libusb |
| 23:39.08 | stefan___a | of course you need a phone that supports usbhost |
| 23:39.26 | stefan___a | well its not supported on the a780, but it works anyway ;) |
| 23:39.50 | sabrod | Very nice! |
| 23:40.08 | sabrod | It is! Well, if you provide support to it :) |
| 23:40.44 | stefan___a | we posted the code to wyrm and hope he can make it switchable in the openezx kernel soon |
| 23:41.01 | stefan___a | i dont know the code, arne did that |
| 23:41.15 | sabrod | You can sell the support, but debug first, I know the trick! ;) |
| 23:41.20 | stefan___a | he read the usb chip manual ;) |
| 23:41.57 | stefan___a | the a780+usbhost is like the coolest device |
| 23:42.02 | sabrod | Yes, hum, btw, I know two persons more intersted on this code, would you ask arne to post it to ML ? |
| 23:42.22 | stefan___a | yes i can do that tomorrow |
| 23:42.27 | sabrod | Heh, I agree... |
| 23:42.29 | stefan___a | i think its a path |
| 23:42.33 | stefan___a | patch |
| 23:42.48 | stefan___a | the usbhost has the following problems: |
| 23:43.02 | stefan___a | you need to supply the power to the usb hub |
| 23:43.38 | stefan___a | if you want to charge the phone through this be prepaired to supply up to 1 ampere !! |
| 23:43.53 | stefan___a | we have it working with a computer power supply |
| 23:44.10 | stefan___a | it goes into the connection between the hub and the phone |
| 23:44.39 | sabrod | Brr, I wouldn't ! But that's your phone and your tests... :p |
| 23:44.46 | stefan___a | then we switch the charging mode of the phone with at commands and presto infinitely running usb host |
| 23:45.06 | stefan___a | until now it worked good for two phones |
| 23:45.19 | stefan___a | they are now about 24/7 in that state |
| 23:45.37 | stefan___a | the original battery is still inside for buffering |
| 23:45.54 | stefan___a | so we can actually switch of the main power supply |
| 23:46.13 | stefan___a | the usb devices get disconnected but they reconnect after switching on power |
| 23:46.13 | sabrod | Not only I guess... it should stop without powering the battery pins... |
| 23:46.35 | stefan___a | no we dont supply the voltage at the battery pins |
| 23:46.42 | stefan___a | we supply it at the connector |
| 23:46.59 | stefan___a | to |
| 23:47.09 | stefan___a | we have a cable miniusb to usb host |
| 23:47.10 | sabrod | I've heard about a dangerous blob flash that allowed to unplug the battery, but it's bootloader stuff :/ |
| 23:47.14 | stefan___a | hub goes in there |
| 23:47.28 | stefan___a | i need that |
| 23:47.35 | stefan___a | where can i find that |
| 23:47.35 | stefan___a | ? |
| 23:47.38 | sabrod | I got it, but the batteries provide the power I was talking about... |
| 23:47.44 | sabrod | ;) |
| 23:48.13 | stefan___a | the power goes into that cable so it is powering the hub devices and the phone charging |
| 23:48.30 | sabrod | heh, on the ML, you should find the thread... (I think it's an old one ) |
| 23:48.34 | stefan___a | at first we thought this is not possible but it works anyway |
| 23:48.52 | stefan___a | ok we have a big text file of the mailinglist on our development machine |
| 23:49.06 | stefan___a | any tip how i can find it |
| 23:49.18 | stefan___a | grep battery|grep unplug ? |
| 23:49.26 | sabrod | blob water bottle |
| 23:49.36 | stefan___a | water bottle ? |
| 23:49.54 | sabrod | (I think I remind a joke with the phone that risked to go itno self combustion lol ) |
| 23:50.08 | sabrod | The guy was precaucionnous ! |
| 23:50.13 | sabrod | ;) |
| 23:50.20 | sabrod | Yes, try that! |
| 23:51.28 | stefan___a | i looked i dont find the mailinglists , i will look tomorrow |
| 23:51.45 | stefan___a | k i started updatedb |
| 23:52.06 | WyrM | im back |
| 23:52.09 | stefan___a | hi |
| 23:52.15 | sabrod | Hum, it sounds the joke appear to not correspond to the thread about that blob hack... |
| 23:52.23 | WyrM | only gen2 phones can run without battery, its not possible on a780. |
| 23:52.28 | stefan___a | ok |
| 23:52.55 | stefan___a | we tried 5v on the battery pins, that works ok |
| 23:53.24 | stefan___a | wyrm what do you think about soldering the swithc on button on the a780 shut |
| 23:53.41 | stefan___a | i want to insert the battery and let the phone start |
| 23:53.42 | sabrod | %v!! don't sell me that phone please ;) |
| 23:53.45 | sabrod | 5v |
| 23:53.45 | WyrM | stefan___a: I have no idea on what would happen. |
| 23:54.04 | stefan___a | well it works if you hold the button the whole time |
| 23:54.12 | WyrM | as the interrupt and the status bit for the power button can only be read by the BP on gen1. |
| 23:54.30 | stefan___a | because if i dont press the button when booting the default 2.6 kernel then it shuts off |
| 23:54.42 | WyrM | not really. :) |
| 23:54.47 | WyrM | its because of BP. |
| 23:54.56 | WyrM | at startup BP will check the power button state. |
| 23:55.00 | stefan___a | ok so what could we do ? |
| 23:55.19 | stefan___a | i want that it just turns on automatically without the button procedure |
| 23:55.22 | WyrM | and if its not pressed for at least a second, it will ask PCAP to shut off all the power (for both BP and AP). |
| 23:55.55 | WyrM | the better fix would be to hack BP software, but its signed so its probably not an option for you. |
| 23:55.55 | stefan___a | thats why i thought about soldering it shut anyway |
| 23:56.06 | stefan___a | or putting a jumper that can be removed |
| 23:56.23 | stefan___a | ;) bp hacking :) |
| 23:56.30 | stefan___a | gsm sniffer ? |
| 23:56.33 | WyrM | if your tests show that its ok to short the button pins, then I think its ok :) |
| 23:56.35 | stefan___a | anyone ? |
| 23:56.43 | stefan___a | ill try |
| 23:56.55 | WyrM | heh, my old 3310 is better to do gsm sniffing :( |
| 23:57.03 | WyrM | s/:(/:)/ |
| 23:57.05 | stefan___a | really ;)? |
| 23:57.29 | WyrM | firmware not signed, and nokia left all the code needed on the original fw. |
| 23:57.38 | stefan___a | yeah! |
| 23:57.59 | WyrM | there is software to do the sniffing floating around on the net. |
| 23:58.22 | stefan___a | i dont want to do that anyway,;) |
| 23:58.27 | stefan___a | ;) |
| 23:58.39 | stefan___a | its like really bad in germany |
| 23:58.48 | stefan___a | but interesting anyway |
| 23:59.05 | stefan___a | oneother thing wyrm |
| 23:59.23 | stefan___a | do you know a solution to automatically send sms? |
| 23:59.37 | stefan___a | might be with other phone than a780 ? |