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| 08:42.16 | Hopscotch | good morning |
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| 15:17.52 | WyrM | yeah, broonie will accept some needed changes for OpenEZX on pxa-ssp.c, even without understanding what causes the weird behaviour ;) |
| 15:19.28 | sabrod | hey, but who couldn't trust you ? |
| 15:19.49 | sabrod | :p |
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| 16:44.03 | WM | hi again. |
| 16:58.10 | florian | hi WM |
| 16:58.30 | sabrod | hi florian, Wm |
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| 17:26.55 | rastafarra | hi. i try work with camera on kernel 2.4 and i can't get image with size more than 640x480. can anybody get me howto work with camera? |
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| 17:33.10 | ao2 | rastafarra, what phone? |
| 17:33.15 | rastafarra | a1200 |
| 17:33.29 | ao2 | what software? |
| 17:33.39 | rastafarra | qtopia on angstom |
| 17:33.48 | rastafarra | angstrom * |
| 17:35.56 | ao2 | rastafarra, have you tried to capture pictures with some command line app? I have a test app I used for the 2.6 development, but it is v4l2, I think 2.4 kernel uses v4l1. |
| 17:36.17 | ao2 | I can give it to you anyway, if you want |
| 17:36.56 | rastafarra | i write this command line apps :) |
| 17:37.18 | rastafarra | v4l2... hm... |
| 17:38.55 | rastafarra | pxa_camera in 2.4 have motorola specific extensions for v4l1. i think this is interesting for me. |
| 17:39.14 | rastafarra | not v4l2 |
| 17:40.50 | ao2 | rastafarra, do you happen to know what sensor is used on a1200? |
| 17:41.57 | ao2 | the motorola code calls it sensor2M but I don't remember I've ever seen the exact model name |
| 17:42.46 | rastafarra | Micron MI2010SOC |
| 17:49.18 | ao2 | ah thanks, I'll add that to the wiki |
| 17:50.06 | rastafarra | and code example for v4l1, if you can )) |
| 17:53.21 | ao2 | I'd not spend too much time on v4l1 rastafarra |
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| 18:08.33 | ao2 | mmh, according to this doc MI2010 is the same as MT9D111, good to know |
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| 18:19.41 | ao2 | this doc: http://www.asia-optical.com.tw/pdf/aoci/pdf_c/154.pdf sorry |
| 19:03.05 | ghane | anybody knows where I can get a precompiled toolchain for Xscale (for my E2 and E6)? |
| 19:03.57 | ghane | Manual compilation or crosstools always fails in gcc for me on all of my boxes :( |
| 19:05.48 | ao2 | ghane, I could put online one built with ezx-crosstools |
| 19:07.19 | ghane | ao2: thats very kind of you, perhaps I should try ezx-crosstools my self as well? I really cant figure out why I cant compile anything right now |
| 19:07.40 | ghane | building a gcc-crosscompiler seems to be almost black magic |
| 19:07.41 | ao2 | I remember ezx-crosstools neede a patch, let me find it |
| 19:08.41 | ghane | after all my failures I just tried the demo-something.sh scripts in crosstool, thought that would do it, but it failed for everything I tried (including all sparc and arm targets) |
| 19:09.29 | ghane | wonder if there is something wrong with my build host :) |
| 19:10.51 | sabrod | what about th famous blackhawk one? |
| 19:11.39 | sabrod | sdk.. i don't even know what it is , but i've heard about it ;) |
| 19:11.45 | ghane | hehe |
| 19:11.58 | ghane | I really dont feel confident when I cant build my own stuff |
| 19:12.08 | ghane | cant understand why it should be so tricky |
| 19:15.04 | ghane | or perhaps I should just have read the wiki better and get the binary rpms that is there already? |
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| 19:21.45 | ao2 | ghane, here's the patch I used for ezx-crosstools-0.5 http://people.openezx.org/ao2/update_to_crosstool-0.42_and_PATH_MAX_fix.diff |
| 19:26.56 | ghane | ao2: thanks a lot |
| 19:27.20 | ao2 | you're welcome, let me know if you need anything else |
| 19:27.32 | ghane | ao2: thanks :) |
| 19:27.50 | ghane | I've mostly focused on just trying to write some apps for the MotoMAGX so far |
| 19:28.13 | ghane | but last week I tested some Qtopia images for the A1200 on my E6 and thought that I should start with that one as well |
| 19:28.23 | ghane | at least get the SDK's and everything up and running |
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| 21:27.38 | WyrM | will start to push changes to asoc. |
| 21:27.58 | WyrM | please report any misbehaviour, code is being tested on a1200 only. |
| 21:46.44 | CIA-20 | OpenEZX: Daniel Ribeiro <drwyrm@gmail.com> ezx/current * r5cf20f474f openezx/sound/soc/pxa/ezx.c: init port to pxa-ssp driver |
| 21:49.33 | CIA-20 | OpenEZX: Daniel Ribeiro <drwyrm@gmail.com> ezx/current * ra54c381d36 openezx/sound/soc/pxa/pxa-ssp.c: |
| 21:49.33 | CIA-20 | OpenEZX: this hack is needed to get our sound working properly, |
| 21:49.33 | CIA-20 | OpenEZX: altough this is a hack it is already accepted upstream. |
| 21:58.07 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: Is the current asoc known non-working on some phones or just not tested? |
| 21:58.07 | stefan_schmidt | hi, btw :) |
| 21:58.07 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: hi. |
| 21:58.07 | WyrM | not tested, but should work on all phones. :) |
| 21:58.07 | WyrM | but a lot of stuff will change. |
| 21:58.29 | WyrM | I've just begin the asoc work again. |
| 21:58.30 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: btw, ethernet over usb is running for all of you? |
| 21:58.40 | stefan_schmidt | I haven't got it running the last times |
| 21:58.47 | WyrM | yes, it runs here. |
| 21:58.53 | stefan_schmidt | Even not with a boot_usb'ed gen-glob |
| 21:58.59 | stefan_schmidt | wierd |
| 21:59.19 | stefan_schmidt | fetches his phones to do some tests |
| 21:59.32 | WyrM | assert that you build from the ezx/current branch |
| 21:59.44 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, works here also on A910 and A780 |
| 21:59.53 | WyrM | its easy to do a mistake with topgit and build an incomplete kernel. |
| 22:00.36 | WyrM | some asoc changes that I am planning (please, make suggestions): |
| 22:00.40 | stefan_schmidt | ok, fresh ezx/current and defconfig build now |
| 22:00.51 | WyrM | 1. will no longer use more than one DAI. |
| 22:01.55 | WyrM | I will setup everything as one PCM interface(DAI) and select the PCAP dai to be used depending on what was requested (rate, capture/playback, stereo/mono). |
| 22:02.07 | stefan_schmidt | ao2, WyrM: Both of you have gen-blob flashed or load it via boot_usb, go into usb mode and load a kernel afterwards? |
| 22:02.12 | stefan_schmidt | is using the later method |
| 22:02.17 | WyrM | flashed here. |
| 22:02.30 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: ok, assumed this from you already. ;) |
| 22:02.48 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: What's the benefit from using only one pcm interface? |
| 22:02.50 | WyrM | on a910 it can't be flashed, so I think that ao2 is a mix from the first and second option ;) |
| 22:03.00 | stefan_schmidt | ah, good to know |
| 22:03.06 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, I havn't flashed it yet. the USB ready method works fine on A910, It didn't work for me on A780, but here I can boot from mmc |
| 22:03.29 | stefan_schmidt | ok, we are comming to the ground |
| 22:03.39 | stefan_schmidt | At least you guys have different setups then me |
| 22:03.42 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: (asoc) simplicity, and 2 DAIs can't be used at the same time anyway :) |
| 22:03.49 | stefan_schmidt | besides A910 which I don't have |
| 22:03.53 | ghane | ao2: thanks btw, i actually built a working compiler now (actually without the patch just the latest ezx-crosstool) |
| 22:04.03 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: heh, simplicity is good |
| 22:04.45 | WyrM | 2. less controls, and better names for them. |
| 22:04.49 | ghane | the crosstool i tried yesterday must be broken :) |
| 22:05.03 | WyrM | 3. add a control to setup bp as mickey requested. |
| 22:05.12 | WyrM | any other suggestions? |
| 22:05.26 | WyrM | I had more stuff, but I can't remember it now ;) |
| 22:06.18 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: For the beginning all we need is a way to switch on a working audio call setup |
| 22:06.32 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: So all controls to do that should be prio |
| 22:06.47 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: More fancy stuff like BT connection, etc can come later |
| 22:06.49 | ao2 | WyrM, I am sure I already asked that, but, will we be able to record phone calls with our setup? |
| 22:07.22 | stefan_schmidt | I'm not sure how fancy the EZX audio system is, but I remember vague that is was really fancy :) |
| 22:07.44 | WyrM | ao2: im not sure, but I think that no. |
| 22:08.17 | ao2 | ok, thanks |
| 22:08.39 | WyrM | eg, to record a phone call, we need to setup a BP<->PCAP talk. |
| 22:09.07 | stefan_schmidt | The question is if such a routing is available at all |
| 22:09.18 | stefan_schmidt | Moto thinks BP is the boss on the system |
| 22:09.29 | stefan_schmidt | Perhaps the don't have such a routing |
| 22:09.37 | WyrM | and have AP listening to it, without interfering. I don't think its possible. |
| 22:09.45 | WyrM | nah, it IS possible. |
| 22:09.50 | WyrM | but tricky. |
| 22:09.58 | stefan_schmidt | cool |
| 22:10.11 | stefan_schmidt | So at least the hw is capable of it. good. :) |
| 22:10.33 | WyrM | eg, it would be done like that (on network mode) BP<->AP SSP2 and AP SSP3<->PCAP |
| 22:10.54 | stefan_schmidt | Ah, the network mode. :) |
| 22:11.02 | WyrM | but this is going to be hard ;) |
| 22:11.07 | stefan_schmidt | Wasn#T that the one that mad so much trouble to get it working? |
| 22:11.51 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: I never saw it working ;) |
| 22:11.59 | stefan_schmidt | *g* |
| 22:12.14 | WyrM | there is a special case, in motorola 2.4 that network mode is used. |
| 22:12.32 | WyrM | but I don't know in what exact circumstances.. |
| 22:12.35 | stefan_schmidt | ok, newest pull, tg update done, ezx/current branch, defocnfig |
| 22:12.59 | stefan_schmidt | run oldconfig |
| 22:14.01 | stefan_schmidt | zImage build running |
| 22:14.05 | stefan_schmidt | hey rwhitby |
| 22:14.13 | stefan_schmidt | rwhitby: Since when you are here? :) |
| 22:15.00 | rwhitby | stefan_schmidt: I didn't have enough IRC channels already, so I thought I'd add another one ... |
| 22:15.15 | stefan_schmidt | rwhitby: Good thinking. You choose the right one. :) |
| 22:15.45 | stefan_schmidt | rwhitby: OpenEZX is sometimes a bit quite, still we are always on the way to get good support for the ezx devices |
| 22:16.43 | stefan_schmidt | Once we have the BP handling and basic audio for calls ready I'll build a nice FSO image for them together with mickey :) |
| 22:21.29 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: ahh, about your usb eth problem, try to just unplug/plug the cable. |
| 22:21.35 | stefan_schmidt | ok, image build lets see if we can get any EoUSB working here |
| 22:21.41 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: Tried this for A780 |
| 22:21.55 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: That worked around boot_usb refusing to flash the kernel |
| 22:22.11 | stefan_schmidt | Sadly gen-blob stayed all the time in USB ready after upload... |
| 22:22.19 | tmzt | hey, does anyone have a device with omap730? |
| 22:24.27 | stefan_schmidt | not |
| 22:25.37 | ao2 | WyrM, during weekend I plan to port some led stuff to git, do you like them lower in the ezx/mach stack? They should be mergeable upstream farly soon. |
| 22:25.58 | WyrM | ao2: you decide. |
| 22:26.12 | ao2 | ok |
| 22:26.27 | WyrM | asoc on a1200 sounds good, the controls match, no distortion. |
| 22:26.44 | ao2 | warming up A910 |
| 22:26.49 | WyrM | I still have some underruns but I can fix it later. |
| 22:27.07 | WyrM | also, right/left speakers match with the audio channels. |
| 22:27.28 | WyrM | but we really can't set the volume control to more than 60% |
| 22:27.33 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: (Audio) great |
| 22:27.36 | WyrM | as it distorts the sound. |
| 22:27.43 | stefan_schmidt | Still the same problem here |
| 22:28.04 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: have you tried to unplug/plug after the kernel is running? |
| 22:28.05 | stefan_schmidt | gen-blob and zImage afterwards only works if a unplug and plug the cable |
| 22:28.18 | stefan_schmidt | Afterwrads is will only stay in USB ready mode |
| 22:28.32 | stefan_schmidt | After successful upload of Zimage that is |
| 22:28.52 | WyrM | ahh, it's the issue of sending gen-blob to blob on gen1. |
| 22:29.03 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: go and flash it! |
| 22:29.25 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: *sigh* |
| 22:29.25 | stefan_schmidt | ok |
| 22:29.25 | WyrM | it works so good when flashed, and there is no risk. |
| 22:29.31 | stefan_schmidt | Give me a moment for this :) |
| 22:29.37 | WyrM | also, on gen1 you can use dmitry's ezxflash for linux |
| 22:29.37 | stefan_schmidt | is just to lazy. :) |
| 22:29.42 | WyrM | it works like a charm. |
| 22:30.00 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, but I fear I don't have such a setup anymore |
| 22:30.24 | stefan_schmidt | Means 2.6 with mtd mapping in flash mode and flashing from there |
| 22:31.26 | sabrod | stefan_schmidt: I have to unplug/plug on A910 too, and your hotplug should work on host to configure the ip quickly! |
| 22:32.41 | WyrM | found what is causing underruns. |
| 22:33.09 | WyrM | it happens with high rate waves only, and only if I put some load on the processor. |
| 22:33.40 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: hotplug, masquerading, etc is already configured and known working |
| 22:33.53 | WyrM | I guess that pxa is suffering to feed data to pcap as fast as it need. |
| 22:34.23 | WyrM | some fifo threshold fiddling should solve it. |
| 22:35.30 | stefan_schmidt | still has a blob2 flashed on his A780 |
| 22:36.39 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: use a kernel with the ALTERNATE_MAPPING set, to backup your 2.4 kernel (if you don't already have a backup) |
| 22:36.54 | WyrM | and use a kernel with the default mtd mapping to flash gen-blob. |
| 22:37.28 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: I already have a partition setup with blob -> blob2 -> kernel |
| 22:37.39 | stefan_schmidt | Just wanted to replace blob2 with gen-blob now |
| 22:38.14 | stefan_schmidt | http://pastebin.com/m1672ff16 |
| 22:38.15 | WyrM | you need a dump of your 2.4 kernel to put on the mmc card if you still want to use motorola ezx. |
| 22:38.56 | stefan_schmidt | I can get this from this setup, no? |
| 22:39.02 | WyrM | cat /dev/mtd2 > 2.4-kernel |
| 22:39.17 | WyrM | and flash gen-blob to mtd1. |
| 22:39.40 | WyrM | no need to boot with the original mapping, it will just work. :) |
| 22:39.44 | stefan_schmidt | Yeah, exactly my plan. :) |
| 22:40.40 | WyrM | ahhh |
| 22:40.52 | stefan_schmidt | flashing works only with mtd-utils, right? |
| 22:40.53 | WyrM | don't forget that it needs an offset to be flashed on a1200! |
| 22:40.58 | WyrM | yes. |
| 22:41.06 | stefan_schmidt | ok, need to get them |
| 22:41.19 | stefan_schmidt | I don't plan to flash on A1200 now |
| 22:41.26 | stefan_schmidt | First A780 |
| 22:41.42 | WyrM | a780 don't need offset. |
| 22:41.49 | stefan_schmidt | Once I have agood working setup on this one again I'm moving forward to E2 |
| 22:41.56 | WyrM | for a1200: dd if=gen-blob bs=1k seek=2 conv=sync of=gen-blob-for-a1200 |
| 22:42.09 | stefan_schmidt | yup, seen this in the README |
| 22:42.34 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: http://people.openezx.org/ao2/images/console-image-a780.tar.gz |
| 22:42.44 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: Does that one have the mtd-utils installed? |
| 22:42.59 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, I don't remember |
| 22:43.13 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: ok |
| 22:45.01 | sabrod | goxboxlive host one somewhere... |
| 22:45.50 | stefan_schmidt | ah, right |
| 22:47.56 | WyrM | wow, the stereo pcap dai can also play mono. |
| 22:48.38 | WyrM | I never tested it before, good! I will simply never use the mono codec (except for bp) |
| 22:49.49 | stefan_schmidt | yay |
| 22:50.05 | stefan_schmidt | Nice to see the asoc work going forward that fast |
| 22:51.33 | sabrod | I'm trying to port mtd_maps.patch ( http://svn.openezx.org/branches/kernel-2.6.25.x-patches/ezx-mtd-map.patch ) |
| 22:51.41 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: Thanks for reminding me about goxbox's image. That one should work well |
| 22:51.58 | sabrod | May someone take a look? http://dl.free.fr/qnvlLLxwe ... :/ |
| 22:53.27 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: hmm, this links gives me nothing than add. :) |
| 22:53.30 | sabrod | stefan_schmidt: you reminded and learnt countless things already, you know.. |
| 22:54.06 | sabrod | Really, i got a patch here :) |
| 22:54.40 | sabrod | ok, you have to be in .fr |
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| 22:56.10 | stefan_schmidt | lol |
| 22:56.18 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: just use pastebin.com |
| 22:56.41 | droebje | May i reportj |
| 22:56.51 | droebje | , too? |
| 22:57.22 | stefan_schmidt | droebje: Sure. What? |
| 22:57.28 | sabrod | http://mediafire.com/download.php?tgmzmniymht |
| 22:57.31 | stefan_schmidt | ok, gen-blob flashed |
| 22:57.37 | ao2 | hey any of you can read colored text ? |
| 22:58.25 | ao2 | I am giving a look at the cia messages setup |
| 22:59.03 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: I do |
| 22:59.09 | sabrod | ao2 : colour are good since the 18bpp patch ;) |
| 22:59.56 | droebje | please give me a link to the rom you use, Stefan, or do you self-compile a lot? heh do you do C coding? hrmf im too noob darn it |
| 23:00.08 | ao2 | ok, so the channel can get colors. |
| 23:00.20 | sabrod | My patch cannot hurt as it's currently not working :) |
| 23:00.25 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: I have seen some colors here, yes |
| 23:00.49 | stefan_schmidt | droebje: I don't use any ROM. Compile own kernel and often also complete images |
| 23:00.59 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, I meant in my very previous message |
| 23:01.19 | sabrod | droebje: you were right, the other time : most of the time we use angstrom images (rootfs) |
| 23:01.22 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: no colors in that onw |
| 23:01.23 | stefan_schmidt | one |
| 23:01.32 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: please use pastebin.com |
| 23:02.00 | ao2 | what color is this? And don't use psyco-mental tricks :) |
| 23:02.01 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: I would have to download from your last link. From pastebin I can just read in in the browser |
| 23:02.05 | sabrod | ok, but i had a prob with @@... |
| 23:02.06 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: none |
| 23:02.17 | ao2 | ok, so it is the channel mode |
| 23:02.25 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 23:02.34 | stefan_schmidt | than it changed. We had this before |
| 23:02.59 | sabrod | http://pastebin.com/m2b9b9edf |
| 23:03.28 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: way better :) |
| 23:03.55 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: ok, with a flashed gen-blob uploading a zImage is working again |
| 23:04.30 | ao2 | we would need an op to do "/mode +c #openezx" |
| 23:04.44 | stefan_schmidt | yay, and EoUSB, too :) |
| 23:05.36 | stefan_schmidt | lol |
| 23:05.39 | stefan_schmidt | # |
| 23:05.39 | stefan_schmidt | + * Author: Harald Welte |
| 23:05.39 | stefan_schmidt | # |
| 23:05.39 | stefan_schmidt | + * Copyright: (C) 2001 MontaVista Software Inc. |
| 23:05.54 | stefan_schmidt | Looks funny. As if Harald is working for Montavista :) |
| 23:06.07 | stefan_schmidt | Would need two copyright statements |
| 23:07.01 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: ok, it'S a bit bigger then expected. Did you test it? |
| 23:07.23 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: If yes, and it worked for you with the newest git, please send to the ml |
| 23:07.51 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: Better place to review as I will have it in my mailbox and more people will see it |
| 23:07.57 | sabrod | stefan_schmidt: no because , i belive it's the includes for the achine_is func... |
| 23:08.22 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: The mapping is only for the nor parts, right? As we don't have a driver for the m-systems chip on gen1 |
| 23:08.29 | sabrod | machine_is_*** don't work... |
| 23:08.37 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 23:08.42 | sabrod | right. |
| 23:08.56 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: Does it at least apply cleanly to our tree? |
| 23:09.02 | sabrod | The A780 and e680 can be merged, too |
| 23:10.21 | sabrod | I don't think, no, because it don't know the machine_is stuff, I'll search for an include, but actually it can't compile: |
| 23:10.59 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: So what about the following: Merge the table that are equal, make a comment over the table which phones this one support, test if it applies cleanly and send it to the ml with a note about what is not working |
| 23:11.22 | sabrod | The overview of my changes didn't choke you? that's cool! |
| 23:11.31 | *** join/#openezx WyrM (n=wyrm@20158163057.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:11.33 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: We can give you then some guide over the time so you can relaxed work on it |
| 23:11.57 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: Think about it as your first kernel project. It will take time until you get there, but it's fun |
| 23:12.26 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: This mapping is nice-to-have but not prio. Just let us know you are working on it and we leave this open for you :) |
| 23:12.57 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: Send it to the ml and I see if I can give some more review the next days. |
| 23:13.10 | WyrM | oh, sabrod is coding kernelspace? |
| 23:13.16 | WyrM | sabrod: congrats ;) |
| 23:13.17 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: If it does not compile, please also include the full error log |
| 23:13.31 | WyrM | sabrod: hope you don't get crazy over time. |
| 23:13.35 | sabrod | Yes, it interrest me... thanks for the reviews :) |
| 23:13.48 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: I'm trying to motivate him for taking a bit repsonsibility for the mtd mapping driver |
| 23:13.51 | sabrod | Wyrm lol ;) |
| 23:14.00 | *** join/#openezx danopia (n=danopia@fullcirclemagazine/developer/danopia) |
| 23:14.08 | danopia | meep |
| 23:14.21 | WyrM | beep |
| 23:14.29 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: In the beginning you will often feel stupid. That's normal. Just keep going. :) |
| 23:14.32 | sabrod | stefan_schmidt: you lacked such an expert didn't you :) |
| 23:14.33 | stefan_schmidt | boo |
| 23:14.43 | danopia | pokes ao2 |
| 23:15.08 | stefan_schmidt | thinks ao2 is playing wii fit now |
| 23:15.16 | danopia | oh. |
| 23:15.26 | stefan_schmidt | At least we were doing this as I was leaving his place. ;) |
| 23:15.33 | danopia | goesoff to play mario cart |
| 23:15.48 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: But normally his notebook is in reach and he hears the beep of xchat |
| 23:15.57 | danopia | ao2, ao2, ao2, ao2, ao2, ao2! |
| 23:15.58 | danopia | :P |
| 23:16.02 | ao2 | danopia, I beg your pardon? Better poked then puked tho :) |
| 23:16.11 | stefan_schmidt | args |
| 23:16.16 | danopia | ao2, if you want to see colors then op and do /mode -c |
| 23:16.17 | stefan_schmidt | mixed ao2 and alphaone |
| 23:16.20 | stefan_schmidt | My bad |
| 23:16.25 | alphaone | ? |
| 23:16.36 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: I'm just getting old :( |
| 23:16.42 | alphaone | ah, no. Marek is playing atm |
| 23:16.54 | stefan_schmidt | alphaone: You know. People need to have numbers not names... |
| 23:16.55 | danopia | You all know each other? :P |
| 23:17.14 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: alphaone and me know in reallife |
| 23:17.24 | stefan_schmidt | Others here only from irc and mail sadly |
| 23:17.43 | danopia | I havea motorola W755 |
| 23:17.51 | stefan_schmidt | We need a compony giving us money to have a OpenEZX hack session and meet in a nice hotel :) |
| 23:18.00 | WyrM | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.03 | WyrM | oops |
| 23:18.08 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: W755? Linux based already? |
| 23:18.32 | danopia | stefan_schmidt, no idea if it's linux based |
| 23:18.43 | danopia | i'm just here to help ao2 with colors :P |
| 23:18.43 | WyrM | webmind: can you please op and /mode -c #openezx ? :) |
| 23:18.44 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: Anything you like me to test with asoc on A780? |
| 23:18.54 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: heh, ok |
| 23:19.19 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: yes, see if the right/left audio channels match the right/left headphone speakers :) |
| 23:19.19 | ao2 | danopia, thanks. I am reading the freenode documentation, but I don't remember who is in charge of #openezx |
| 23:19.29 | WyrM | ao2: webmind. |
| 23:20.30 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: uh, do you have a nice audio file which says left on the left channel and right on the right? :) |
| 23:20.39 | WyrM | also, I think that he could op some people, so we don't need to bug him everytime we need some admin change on the channel. |
| 23:20.44 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: yes. |
| 23:21.01 | WyrM | DCC or mail? |
| 23:21.12 | danopia | so are you guys making custom firmare? |
| 23:21.28 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: You can try DCC, not sure if it will work thought |
| 23:21.48 | danopia | stefan_schmidt, so are you guys making custom firmare? |
| 23:21.50 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: yeah, somewhat. Mostly kernel works these days |
| 23:22.15 | ao2 | danopia, we advertise it as "freeing phone" :P but yes |
| 23:22.25 | danopia | stefan_schmidt, so how much does your stuff do on a phone? can it make calls? |
| 23:22.43 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: calls are overrated :) |
| 23:22.57 | ao2 | danopia, calls are expensive, too |
| 23:23.13 | ao2 | we give users the freedom to be unable to make calls |
| 23:23.14 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: We are still working on it. We had it already some time agao. But need to do some rework with newer kernel versions |
| 23:23.46 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: WyrM just god audio working again. Next missing piece is getting the modem driver ready again |
| 23:24.09 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: nothing coming via DCC here. I bet my side is the problem. Just mail |
| 23:25.15 | WyrM | stefan_schmidt: sent. |
| 23:25.20 | danopia | stefan_schmidt, do the EZX phones have USB bootloading? |
| 23:25.20 | danopia | I'm scrweed atm because I can't txt |
| 23:25.20 | danopia | I cna't txtmy frineds to ask waht our essay is on |
| 23:25.25 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: thanks |
| 23:25.33 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: Will letr you know the results |
| 23:26.02 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: yes, it bootloader speaks a special proto over usb |
| 23:26.19 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: We have a program that speaks it also on the host |
| 23:26.41 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: It allows to loads kernel, set commandline, machin id, etc |
| 23:26.53 | danopia | stefan_schmidt, motorola has had UBS boot for some time, so your using that, right? |
| 23:27.19 | danopia | USB boot mode was a fun way to crash older models but nowadays you you cancel UBS boot |
| 23:27.25 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: Well, not sure as what moto advertise it :) |
| 23:28.12 | WyrM | moto don't use it as a way to boot the phone software. It is used just to upload the downloader/flasher code. |
| 23:28.37 | WyrM | the so called RDL. |
| 23:28.48 | danopia | But it still is a USB bootloader :P |
| 23:29.19 | WyrM | yeah. |
| 23:30.47 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: What do you use to play the files? aplay or cating it into the device? :) |
| 23:30.55 | WyrM | aplay |
| 23:31.14 | WyrM | catting to the device will always try to play mono 8000hz |
| 23:31.20 | stefan_schmidt | ok, so back to a full image. Console had mtd-utils but no aplay |
| 23:31.35 | stefan_schmidt | no worries, getting a full image back now |
| 23:37.20 | danopia | get apt on it |
| 23:37.56 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: We have the small equiv, opkg |
| 23:38.06 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: Just no feeds setup yet |
| 23:38.17 | danopia | But get apt or pacman :p |
| 23:38.26 | danopia | Not like any package's run |
| 23:38.31 | stefan_schmidt | Well, there are feeds. But it is not working out-of-the box as I would hope. :) |
| 23:38.53 | danopia | You got a web site? |
| 23:38.55 | danopia | I'm a web dev |
| 23:39.02 | danopia | I need a new job, evne if it doens't pay |
| 23:39.54 | danopia | idc if it pays |
| 23:39.55 | danopia | :P |
| 23:40.16 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: We have one, and it looks ugly :) |
| 23:40.39 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: No pay here as we are completely volunteer based here |
| 23:40.39 | danopia | I just want to work on a site because I need osmething to work on |
| 23:40.40 | danopia | lol |
| 23:40.47 | danopia | I'm BORED. |
| 23:40.53 | stefan_schmidt | http://openezx.org/ |
| 23:41.01 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: I would I new one. |
| 23:41.10 | danopia | I would I new one? |
| 23:41.23 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: I would like a new one |
| 23:41.28 | stefan_schmidt | We have one rule thought |
| 23:41.30 | danopia | oh, right |
| 23:41.34 | danopia | What is it |
| 23:41.38 | stefan_schmidt | It has to be static html pages |
| 23:41.43 | danopia | And what type of hosting do you have |
| 23:41.48 | danopia | I can host it on my server |
| 23:42.02 | stefan_schmidt | That way we can keep it under version control and easy to maintain for non web devs :) |
| 23:42.02 | danopia | Why does it have to be static, your hosting? |
| 23:42.21 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: We have a virtual host with root access |
| 23:42.37 | danopia | I would set up a wiki-type thign wtih a CMS base for editing and a version control-ish history like mediawiki |
| 23:42.45 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: (static) Well we don't have content that needsa to be fancy. :) |
| 23:42.45 | danopia | And maybe add message boards |
| 23:42.46 | danopia | :P |
| 23:42.55 | stefan_schmidt | And we don't like complex web systems to much. :) |
| 23:42.59 | danopia | Not really fancy, but easy to maintain and functional |
| 23:43.16 | stefan_schmidt | We alread have a media wiki |
| 23:43.16 | danopia | I dont' like using mediawiki for simple pages but I like a simple wiki |
| 23:43.20 | danopia | You do? |
| 23:43.25 | stefan_schmidt | , ah planet and more |
| 23:43.26 | danopia | Is thatt static HTML? :P |
| 23:43.43 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: It's not hosted on that server just a cname :) |
| 23:43.59 | danopia | Oh. |
| 23:44.25 | stefan_schmidt | Personally I don't like dynamic systems to much. Yes I know that is oldschool :) |
| 23:44.35 | stefan_schmidt | sabrod: What stuff would you have in mind? |
| 23:45.27 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: What stuff would you have in mind |
| 23:45.37 | stefan_schmidt | Stupid xchat name completion |
| 23:45.44 | danopia | xchat is nice though |
| 23:46.06 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, I like it. It was not even it's fault. User error |
| 23:46.14 | stefan_schmidt | But easier to bash the tool ;) |
| 23:46.22 | danopia | ERROR: Insert new user and press any key. |
| 23:46.35 | stefan_schmidt | Not working here. Everybody asleep |
| 23:48.15 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: So if you are bored and really like to work on a page for us, we can discuss about the details. |
| 23:48.35 | danopia | Which logo is your favorite, the wiki one? |
| 23:48.43 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: If the ideas and the page outweights my pain to install some dynamic web stuff perhaps I change my mind. :) |
| 23:48.55 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: yeah |
| 23:49.02 | danopia | stefan_schmidt, you somehow have dynamic hosting for hte wiki :P |
| 23:49.12 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: I have svg from the logo if you need other sizes, etc |
| 23:49.31 | danopia | I dont' like large images unles they are .gif watermakrs with like 5 colors |
| 23:49.46 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: As I said, it runs on a different server. And you can not get a wiki without some dynamic stuff :) |
| 23:50.03 | stefan_schmidt | One example for the benefit outweights the pain :) |
| 23:50.08 | danopia | I'm just saying you could make the main page too :P |
| 23:50.11 | danopia | Anyway |
| 23:50.14 | danopia | I'll see what I can do |
| 23:51.16 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: Great. Thanks a lot |
| 23:51.36 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: I think some css will already make it a lot better |
| 23:51.48 | ao2 | danopia, a good graphic design implemented with just CSS is what we would need. So I'd say save the homepage and redesign the style using the elements (with their ids and classes) that we already use |
| 23:52.09 | stefan_schmidt | danopia, ao2: You guys know each other? |
| 23:52.17 | danopia | ao2, yes I'm not a huge graphics lover |
| 23:52.31 | danopia | ao2, I used to work for http://fpscheats.com/ and I hated the home page |
| 23:52.37 | danopia | I quit after a year |
| 23:52.37 | ao2 | stefan_schmidt, since 30 minutes or so :) |
| 23:52.51 | danopia | Not jsut that, the admin didn't trust me too |
| 23:52.58 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, we don't need graphics. Just the logo in one place that's all I would vote for |
| 23:53.00 | danopia | Had to do wtih my using IRC and leaving my clinet idle |
| 23:53.03 | stefan_schmidt | ao2: ah, heh |
| 23:53.16 | danopia | He thought I was on IRC allt he time instead of working for him, really I jsut idled my client |
| 23:53.43 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: yup, this page is overloaded |
| 23:53.55 | danopia | The fpscheats.com header used to have a flash header that loaded/autoplayed a 5 minutes video |
| 23:54.04 | stefan_schmidt | brrr |
| 23:54.10 | stefan_schmidt | no flash for us |
| 23:54.13 | danopia | I used this instead of that |
| 23:54.17 | stefan_schmidt | We have so little content |
| 23:54.17 | danopia | http://fpscheats.com/forums.htm |
| 23:54.25 | danopia | Because it's not overlaoded *as much* |
| 23:54.38 | danopia | But yea, I hate pages that need falsh/js and that have too manyimages. |
| 23:54.57 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: Instead of a forum we have a mailling list. Does really well for us. You see, we are a bit old school on such things. :) |
| 23:55.05 | danopia | At the bottom, that "880 Users online today:" murdered hte old server :P |
| 23:55.23 | ao2 | I go folks, see you |
| 23:55.28 | stefan_schmidt | cu ao2 |
| 23:55.36 | danopia | And I see a bunch of hte old bugs are sitll there, the new admin never fixed them |
| 23:55.37 | danopia | bai ao2 |
| 23:56.20 | danopia | THe old server used 2000 GB/s of bandwidth and was great for torrenting until the other admin shut it down on me and got someone else |
| 23:56.26 | danopia | Not 2000 GB/s |
| 23:56.34 | danopia | 5 MB/s and 200 GB/month |
| 23:56.38 | danopia | 2000* |
| 23:56.43 | danopia | I am fialing with numbers. |
| 23:56.49 | danopia | Anyway, i got an essay to do |
| 23:56.57 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: cu |
| 23:57.12 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: coming to some asoc tests now |
| 23:57.16 | danopia | If oyu ping me I'll be here |
| 23:57.26 | stefan_schmidt | danopia: cool |
| 23:58.44 | stefan_schmidt | WyrM: hmm, I hear nothing here. Tested all three files with aplay and master on 60 |
| 23:59.07 | WyrM | enable at least one output mixer. |
| 23:59.24 | WyrM | and, you hear no sound? or aplay never finishes? |